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  • The Leander class, light cruisers of the Royal Navy, are today's subject.
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Komentáře • 392

  • @Drachinifel
    @Drachinifel  Před 4 lety +37

    Pinned post for Q&A :)

    • @fabianzimmermann5495
      @fabianzimmermann5495 Před 4 lety +9

      What exactly did Admiral King say to the Bureau of Ordnance? You mentioned transcripts in the last drydock. Could you read some of the most amusing parts or the parts you can read without being demoniticed?

    • @themightynanto3158
      @themightynanto3158 Před 4 lety

      If Indianapolis had been sunk by I-58 when it was carrying parts of Little Boy at Tinian how would history have changed?

    • @crispico4727
      @crispico4727 Před 4 lety +3

      Which was more effective, the submarine cruiser, or the submarine aircraft carrier?

    • @hondansx1000
      @hondansx1000 Před 4 lety +8

      I have a piece of HMS Warspite, would you like to see it?

    • @snebbywebby2587
      @snebbywebby2587 Před 4 lety +6

      You mention that the boilers were trunked into a single funnel to make it more difficult to determine the ship's course and bearing. How does the funnel design achieve ths effect and did it ever prove itself useful?

  • @Aelvir114
    @Aelvir114 Před 4 lety +109

    Fun tidbit:
    At the end of the war and after the war when they started selling off and scrapping these ships, they began to realize that they actually were going to regret the selling of these ships or the scrapping of these ships. But by the time Ajax was scrapped in 1949 that was already too late. What they had determined though was that the generous hull space on these ships, the long range, and the relatively quick speed made them ideal radar picket ships, but by the time they figured this out it was too late, Ajax had already been scrapped and that was the last remaining Leander at the time.

  • @Big_E_Soul_Fragment
    @Big_E_Soul_Fragment Před 4 lety +252

    Naval Treaties: making ship designers to be extra creative to skirt the rules

    • @can-chan6119
      @can-chan6119 Před 4 lety +19

      Naval Treaties: Ho Ho Ho! You went over your max tonnage! Instead of going under it you went over it! Navies: What are you talking about it’s under!

    • @davidtryon6157
      @davidtryon6157 Před 4 lety +25

      @@can-chan6119 "They're more like guidelines anyway."

    • @raymondkisner9240
      @raymondkisner9240 Před 4 lety +7

      Like HOT ROD DISGUISES FAST SUPERHERO NAVAL SHIPS!

    • @Philistine47
      @Philistine47 Před 4 lety +15

      Naval Treaties: Making the underdogs in a naval arms race _appear_ competitive for 20 years, leading to their crushing defeat when they declare war on two _actual_ great powers.
      The Washington Treaty got the Japanese allocation almost exactly wrong: slightly too little to appease the hardcore nationalists, who took it as a deadly insult, but far too much to reflect their actual relative capabilities, giving those so insulted hope that they could overcome the narrow gap in forces in the Pacific.

    • @Aelvir114
      @Aelvir114 Před 4 lety +5

      Naval Treaties: Also killed the Tosa-class, poor HMAS Australia, nearly every WW1 battleship , made it so Britain’s heavy cruiser were very underarmored, and make the new KGV-class have 14" guns :D
      There are points where Naval Treaties were being reasonable but a lot of it went too far.

  • @matthewalker
    @matthewalker Před 4 lety +93

    The 5th HMAS Sydney was commissioned only a few weeks ago.
    An interesting topic for the future would be which ship names have been the most popular over the history of the navies.

    • @stefanpajung113
      @stefanpajung113 Před 4 lety +13

      There have been 21 HMS Alert between 1753 and 1947 alone - 16 in commission as regular naval ships, and in addition the RN has hired a lugger and several cutters, which also have borne the name. 13 ships have borne the name of HMS Revenge since 1577.

    • @5peciesunkn0wn
      @5peciesunkn0wn Před 4 lety +1

      @@stefanpajung113 ah yes. HMS Alert: the siren ship. RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!

    • @MerrimanDevonshire
      @MerrimanDevonshire Před 4 lety +3

      Queue the jokes about Enterprise

    • @christophervasel4894
      @christophervasel4894 Před 4 lety +6

      Y'all seem to forget the number of countries that named ships after Prince Eugene

    • @manfredlunsen6756
      @manfredlunsen6756 Před 4 lety

      very interesting question👍

  • @soham6649
    @soham6649 Před 4 lety +109

    The INS Delhi, former HMNZS Achilles was the first capital ship to be inducted in the Indian Navy. One of her turrets can be found outside the Regiment of Artillery Museum in Nashik.
    Also the Delhi took part in the Graf Spee movie to play herself ie the Achilles.

    • @John.0z
      @John.0z Před 4 lety +25

      As did Cumberland. Although as Cumberland was a training ship by then, she was obviously lacking a few of her WW2 turrets.
      I thought it was an interesting touch to have the four ships named as "actors" in the credits.

    • @ArenBerberian
      @ArenBerberian Před 4 lety +10

      Such an amazing film to essentially reenact the historic battle with ships which were actually there!

    • @Archangelglenn
      @Archangelglenn Před 4 lety +5

      Okay that's actually kind of cool to know.

    • @willytheekid
      @willytheekid Před 4 lety +11

      HMNZS Achilles returned to NZ after the Battle of the River Plate to a MASSIVE heros welcome back here in New Zealand...then she went to a great new Home in the Indian Navy.
      So glad they kept her turrets :)
      ...least we forget

    • @comeslittorissaxonici7395
      @comeslittorissaxonici7395 Před 4 lety +3

      @@willytheekid She was still "HMS" at that time. Not "HMNZS" until 1941, as there was no seperate NZ Navy till then, it was the NZ section of the RN.

  • @captaindusty4884
    @captaindusty4884 Před 4 lety +171

    "Y" Turret + a gun director of Achilles survives to this day guarding the gates of Devonport Naval Base in New Zealand

    • @Persian-Immortal
      @Persian-Immortal Před 4 lety +9

      It was a gift from the Indian Navy. Anyway, I want to see the turret. I planned to visit Auckland soon.

    • @franzfanz
      @franzfanz Před 4 lety +1

      Right here. www.google.co.nz/maps/@-36.8305909,174.7913521,3a,41.2y,294.64h,90.77t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1swQKZO3N3BDxiIEFKajv1Tw!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo1.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DwQKZO3N3BDxiIEFKajv1Tw%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D296.0766%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192

    • @soham6649
      @soham6649 Před 4 lety +10

      @@Persian-Immortal you can see another one of her turrets at the Regiment of Artillery Museum in the city of Nashik

    • @ArenBerberian
      @ArenBerberian Před 4 lety +5

      Also a 2nd 6 inch turret from her and some of the 4 Inch turrets survive in India i believe. I Think her mast is also preserved in India.

    • @bazwalk
      @bazwalk Před 4 lety

      Davenport ?

  • @barryjones8842
    @barryjones8842 Před 4 lety +18

    I think the Leanders were among the most attractive warships built and the RN got a heck of bang for the buck spent on them.

  • @tramlink8544
    @tramlink8544 Před 4 lety +53

    Achillies no.1 turret is now the gate guard at the RNZN navy base Devonport, i see it daily

    • @Sid-bd5pt
      @Sid-bd5pt Před 4 lety +4

      One is in India

    • @ianashby1449
      @ianashby1449 Před 2 lety

      There used to be one of achillies turrets next to the main gate at motet aswell I’ve seen the turret at the navy base in devonport

    • @ianashby1449
      @ianashby1449 Před 2 lety

      Also the ships bell is in Auckland museum

    • @robotsretrosspaces
      @robotsretrosspaces Před 7 měsíci

      My grandfather served on the Achillies in the war, nice to see the video

  • @glennricafrente58
    @glennricafrente58 Před 4 lety +8

    One of my favorite classes of ships! Middle weight cruisers that fought like terriers all over the world in WWII.

  • @mayuri4184
    @mayuri4184 Před 4 lety +120

    She is a good girl, taking care of the commander while I am gone.

    • @Big_E_Soul_Fragment
      @Big_E_Soul_Fragment Před 4 lety +17

      Ah, yes, the best maid is here

    • @julieclark1765
      @julieclark1765 Před 4 lety +5

      Hey Belfast how are ya

    • @joshthomas-moore2656
      @joshthomas-moore2656 Před 4 lety +7

      Ironic Belfast turns up in a video that mentions the name Enterprise.

    • @mayuri4184
      @mayuri4184 Před 4 lety +17

      @@julieclark1765 I am doing well, thank you very much. Her Majesty's maids are in top condition, despite the pandemic.

    • @julieclark1765
      @julieclark1765 Před 4 lety +4

      @@mayuri4184 good to hear

  • @brucesim2003
    @brucesim2003 Před 4 lety +33

    My grandfather served on the Leander from before the war until she was torpedoed at the Kula gulf. He was an engineer who was lucky to be out of the engine room when the torpedo hit. He still had both legs broken.
    I've had an interest in naval history (WW2 in particular) for about 35 years. I have not once heard of HMS Ajax referred to as Iax (sp?). The greek hero may well have been, but to my knowledge, the ship NEVER was.

    • @WalterReimer
      @WalterReimer Před 3 lety +1

      Aiax (pronounced (EYE-ax). Greek doesn't have the letter J.

    • @brucesim2003
      @brucesim2003 Před 3 lety +5

      @@WalterReimer Greek may not have a J. But the name the R.N. uses is an anglicised version (as evidenced by the presence of the J). Hence Ajax. ;)

    • @WalterReimer
      @WalterReimer Před 3 lety +1

      @@brucesim2003 Very true! Perhaps Drach is thinking of a certain Dutch football side. ;-)

    • @Holland41
      @Holland41 Před 2 lety

      Agree re. pronouncing Ajax as Eye-ax. I too have a lifelong interest in naval history, also due in large part to my ex-navy father, and he always said Ajax, as did everybody else to my knowledge.
      Drach you are fantastic, and your work is hugely impressive, but this is really irritating, especially when your pronunciation of other ships' names from the German, Italian and French navies is very patchy.

    • @michaelgrey7854
      @michaelgrey7854 Před rokem

      My Great Uncle died in the same battle when the Leander was torpedoed. Previously he had served on the Archillies but missed out on River Plate as he was training in England. He was chief. Specialty was torpedoes.

  • @Lukusprime
    @Lukusprime Před 4 lety +20

    As an American, I had to do a double-take when you said “HMS Enterprise”

    • @lewisirwin5363
      @lewisirwin5363 Před 4 lety +8

      Wait til the Brits hear about "USS Victory" :)

    • @roscoewhite3793
      @roscoewhite3793 Před 4 lety +6

      Which one? As I mentioned just now, there have been fifteen since 1705.

    • @davidrenton
      @davidrenton Před 5 měsíci +1

      3 years after , it you watch the intro to the US Star Trek "Enterprise"from the 00's TV series, it goes through a montage of ships named Enterprise, the 1st one being HMS Enterprise, not this one, but Age of Sail

  • @juicysushi
    @juicysushi Před 4 lety +6

    Selfishly, this is my all-time favourite Drachinifel video purely because I grew up in Ajax, Canada, named after the Leander-class cruiser. Not the most glorious class ever designed, but wonderfully useful. The Toyota Corolla of warship designs.

    • @juicysushi
      @juicysushi Před 4 lety +1

      I know it is, don’t really care though, since the ship kicks ass and the football team are pretty good too.

    • @gyrene_asea4133
      @gyrene_asea4133 Před 4 lety

      No higher praise can be given to a utility vessel.

  • @steverose7112
    @steverose7112 Před 4 lety +11

    The American “light” cruiser class USS Cleveland were an impressive design.
    There is a great book written by a regular blue jacket called Pacific War Diary by James J. Fahey.
    Really interesting read above the life of a regular sailor who served on the USS Montpelier light cruiser.

  • @tulsatrash
    @tulsatrash Před 4 lety +4

    After hearing so many of these names so much there's finally a 5 minute guide for the class.

  • @kimbaldunsmore4633
    @kimbaldunsmore4633 Před 3 dny

    My grandfather served in HMS/HMNZS Leander for the whole of the second war apart from a couple of stints as an instructor at Whale lsland gunnery school in the UK.
    He was a CPO electrical sailor, veteran of WWl and in charge of electrical maintenance of the two for'ard turrets. He had joined the Royal Navy in 1912, was posted to the New Zealand station after the war, married in NZ and produced my aunt and my dad - that is why l am here today!
    He was called up from reserves the day before the declaration of war in 1939 and went away for the duration. He transferred to the newly created Royal New Zealand Navy in 1941/2 (The RNZN came to be on 01 Oct 1941 - correction of fact here for Mr Drach).
    Leander herself saw quite a bit of action in the Pacific, where she sank an armed merchantman ltalian Ramb 1, spent some time hunting German commerce raiders in the lndian Ocean, before being transferred to the Med and was in action against the Vichy French. Later she was sent back to the Pacific and saw action against the Japanese in the Solomons at the Battle of Kolombangara IN July1943 where a Japanese cruiser was sunk but Leander was badly damaged by a torpedo.
    The damage was so severe that she spent the rest of the war under repair in NZ and the US. She returned to NZ in 1945, and was lastly involved in Cold War operations, notably the Corfu Channel incident in 1946 - l've gone on long enough so will leave you to look that one up.

  • @bigblue6917
    @bigblue6917 Před 4 lety +20

    You get the feeling Orion and Neptune loved chasing the Italians around the Med. They must have been very disappointed when Italy surrendered.

    • @theenhancer
      @theenhancer Před 4 lety +2

      And suspicious. They could change sides at any moment.

    • @captaindusty4884
      @captaindusty4884 Před 4 lety +1

      Well, Neptune was sunk by Italian mines with all but 3 crew lost.

    • @Billy_The_Dog
      @Billy_The_Dog Před 4 lety +3

      @@captaindusty4884 HMS Neptune was RN, with RN officers, but was crewed by mostly New Zealand enlisted, where as HMNZS Leander and HMNZS Achilles were part of the New Zealand Division and had full NZ crews. I personally had a great uncle who died on HMS Neptune when it sunk during the 2nd Battle of Sirte. They actually hit 3 mines, the first did little damage, but then they tried to reverse out of the minefield and hit a second, killing the engines. Then they drifted into the 3rd, which sunk them.

  • @Paveway-chan
    @Paveway-chan Před 4 lety +13

    2:49 now that's an effing cool name for a cruiser

    • @85gamingwot55
      @85gamingwot55 Před 4 lety +3

      Erik Bergström I see what you did there

  • @davemillar3261
    @davemillar3261 Před 3 lety +2

    My father was on Leander when she was torpedoed. He was manning an anti-aircraft gun almost directly above where the torpedo hit. They saw it coming and were told to lie down. Those who didn't got broken legs from the upward force of the explosion. There were many New Zealanders in the crew and they held reunions every year until fairly recently. Most if not all have passed on now.

    • @maxt7525
      @maxt7525 Před 3 lety

      What ship was your father inmate? My father served on one

    • @davemillar3261
      @davemillar3261 Před 3 lety +1

      @@maxt7525 Dad was on HMNZS Leander when she was torpedoed at the battle of Kolombangara.

  • @UltimateSacrifice01
    @UltimateSacrifice01 Před 4 lety +30

    Coincidentally, I just unlocked the Leander on world of warships tonight.. kinda cool to learn the history of it at the same time!

    • @unclestone8406
      @unclestone8406 Před 4 lety +4

      If you ever try Azur Lane, Leander is one of the easiest to get, and also powerful even beyond her supposedly lowest rarity in the game.
      She's just a good girl all around ^_^

    • @Dr_V
      @Dr_V Před 4 lety +4

      Whatever you do keep that one in your port after progressing up the line, it's both fun to play and very useful for completing various cruiser missions, especially when you get tired of playing tiers IX-X all the time. I'm also keeping the Fiji for the same reasons.

    • @horatiuscocles3399
      @horatiuscocles3399 Před 4 lety

      Leander is, where the fun with brit CL starts. It was the purest of joyrides to play her, Fiji and Edin.

    • @shellshockedgerman3947
      @shellshockedgerman3947 Před 4 lety

      @@unclestone8406 Why bring up Azur Lane? He literally didn't even mention about it.

    • @gokbay3057
      @gokbay3057 Před 4 lety +2

      @@shellshockedgerman3947 why not? Also he did mention Leander so there is that.

  • @gnyrinn
    @gnyrinn Před 4 lety +26

    "Åyaks or Ädyaks, depending on which region of Greece you ask," Nice touch.

    • @waynemongo
      @waynemongo Před 4 lety +6

      But Ajax in the Royal Navy! My ears pricked up...

    • @andrewbend9655
      @andrewbend9655 Před 4 lety +6

      There is an entire town in Ontario the that would insist on Eh-jax

    • @mostevil1082
      @mostevil1082 Před 4 lety +2

      Ajax in English though. Odd that Drach renamed the ship, rather than just mentioning it.

    • @brucesim2003
      @brucesim2003 Před 4 lety

      @gnyrinn: and completely wrong for the subject matter.

    • @gnyrinn
      @gnyrinn Před 4 lety +1

      @@brucesim2003 What do you mean wrong? The ship is named after an ancient Greek Hero, whose name has two different pronunciations. In the absence of an audio recording of the ship being christened, ambiguity and speculation on how to pronounce the name are correct and relevant.

  • @Pusserdoc
    @Pusserdoc Před 4 lety +8

    Minor correction to another great presentation: HMAS HOBART actually decommissioned in 1947, having just about having her stern blown off by a Japanese submarine off Espiritu Santo in July 1943, to be out of action for the next 18 months. Although she was converted for training duties, and considered for other roles during the 1950s (as Drachinifel indicates), she never actually recommissioned before being sold to the Japanese for scrap in 1962.

    • @John.0z
      @John.0z Před 4 lety +3

      I recall her sitting in the Athol Bight reserve fleet for years. The ships of that fleet were always a point of interest for me when on the ferry to Sydney. Then one day she was gone.

    • @RangaTurk
      @RangaTurk Před 4 lety +2

      How ironic, Pig Iron Bob strikes again.

  • @admiraltiberius1989
    @admiraltiberius1989 Před 4 lety +9

    A Drach video is very much needed this morning.
    And here it is....lovely how that works out.

  • @fredfarnackle5455
    @fredfarnackle5455 Před 4 lety +1

    Another well researched talk on HM Ships. Thanks.

  • @johnfisher9692
    @johnfisher9692 Před 4 lety +1

    Thanks Drach, an great video describing ships which were an excellent design for their role.
    It's interesting to compare how tough they were and how they stood the tests of battle and sea keeping compared to their opponents who couldn't equal either.

  • @scottfabel7492
    @scottfabel7492 Před 4 lety +1

    Thank you again for a wonderful video. These ships had some beautiful lines.

  • @harryfrentz6899
    @harryfrentz6899 Před 4 lety +1

    Something I had been looking forward to! Thanks Drach!

  • @Kellen6795
    @Kellen6795 Před 4 lety +3

    I think we need an extra episode just covering each of these ships careers. I especially want to hear about em chasing Italians around lol

  • @RocketGurney
    @RocketGurney Před 4 lety +21

    It always amazes me how much effect treaty restriction had on so many designs, and how much innovation (and skirting of the rules) was forced because of them. I often wonder if as much innovation and resourcefulness would have resulted without such restrictions (the many designs the treaties did kill notwithstanding).

    • @conmcgrath7502
      @conmcgrath7502 Před 4 lety +2

      I think I get what you're saying, the Graf Spee would be a fine example of a ship that was built under 'rules' but the designers 'bent those rules' a little? I have often wondered why the U-boats (especially in the later years of the war), didn't have a set of small mines that they could release to deter being depth-bombed? Just think about it, the early series of u-boats all had external storage for extra torpedoes, that space could have been used to house 'mini-mines'.
      Imagine firing a salvo of torpedoes at a convoy and now there is a destroyer bearing down on you, sink fast and release the mines, that destroyer will not be running patterns over your location with mines in the water? Just a thought......
      Pax dudes

    • @kemarisite
      @kemarisite Před 4 lety +4

      @@conmcgrath7502 the only rule the Deutschland class was built under was the Treaty of Versailles, which limited them to 10,000 tons. They simply broke that with a standard displacement of 10,600 tons for the first ship and more for later ones. Any treaty is only as good as its enforcement, and the British and French weren't willing to go to war to enforce that provision. Germany was not a party to the Washington Naval Treaty, which would have limited their gun caliber to 8". The Deutchslands were an interesting variant on the heavy cruiser concept, and I wouldn't necessarily want to go one on one with a treaty heavy cruiser, but it is an interesting trade off under the same tonnage limit.

    • @maxwellbeer6757
      @maxwellbeer6757 Před 4 lety +2

      Con McGrath I would imagine that carrying unarmed torpedoes and primed and ready to fire mines on the outside of your hull are two completely different things. Given that just small underwater explosion next to your pressure hull is fatal to a submarine I would have been very dubious of this if I was a Uboat commander. If it would have worked, I reckon that they would have tried it.

    • @theenhancer
      @theenhancer Před 4 lety +1

      @@conmcgrath7502 An interesting idea, but I think most ships would always prioritize an offense weapon to a defensive one. Consider, if you were a destroyer, would you prioritize depth charges or torpedo nets? For the drag and complexity of the mines, I think I would rather more torpedoes, fuel, etc.

    • @conmcgrath7502
      @conmcgrath7502 Před 4 lety +1

      @@maxwellbeer6757 Damn good point sir. I cannot dispute the logic and that is perhaps why it wasn't done. It would seem totally stupid to place volatile devices against the hull (I was reaching for a better phrase, 'self-defeating' would be involved,..... anathema?). Anyway, a definite knee-jerk reaction would be a resounding NO!
      I still think it might have been 'doable' and bear in mind they would be released prior to any expected bombardment, a 'one-shot' deal but that one shot would make escorts very wary of charging towards a suspected u-boat location.
      Come to think of it, they could have had 'tube-launched' mini-mines (I can't be arsed to google it), but those torpedoes were big and I postulate that at least five 'mini-mines' could be launched from a single torpedo shaped delivery system.
      I'm just 'thinking-out-loud' and I realize 'coulda, woulda, shoulda' is hardly relevant but I still wonder, what if?
      The u-boats had it easy at the start of WW2 but by the end only 1 in ten were surviving a deployment.
      Anyhoo, thank you for the reply, I shall now turn my evil mind towards 'world domination' and demand ONE MILLION DOLLARS!
      Pax dude

  • @AmsterdamKayakGuy
    @AmsterdamKayakGuy Před 4 lety +10

    If you have the time, could you make a video about the Dutch submarine force during the second world war?

  • @Orion_Ikuyo
    @Orion_Ikuyo Před 4 lety +2

    Orion finally getting love, kind of.
    This makes me smile :D

  • @sam8742
    @sam8742 Před rokem

    My great grandfather served on the Orion, it's honestly really nice to see comments about peoples family serving on ships of the same class.

  • @indyrock8148
    @indyrock8148 Před 4 lety

    Thanks Drach for the cruisers 👍

  • @chuckw1113
    @chuckw1113 Před měsícem

    Interestingly, one of duties Achilles/Delhi performed was to play herself in the 1956 movie Battle of the River Plate/Pursuit of the Graf Spee. In that movie Delhi played her former self (Achilles). She and Cumberland were the only ships to do so, with Graf Spee being played by USS Salem, Ajax played by HMS Sheffield and Exeter played by HMS Jamaica.

  • @deathwish3611
    @deathwish3611 Před 4 lety +24

    Who disliked the video? Off to the boiler room you go!

    • @shadowfire246
      @shadowfire246 Před 4 lety +3

      @Jurassic Aviator while only armed with 2 sticks and a rock and they have to share the rock

    • @eagletanker
      @eagletanker Před 4 lety +3

      Stay with the master chief, he’ll know what to do.

  • @TheRCScotsman
    @TheRCScotsman Před 4 lety +2

    I Love HMS (HMNZS) Leander. Got a genuine photograph of her, from 1931, on display. She's suuuch a pretty ship!
    I'd dearly love to own a detailed model, or even an RC model, but they cost thousands.

  • @rblinson8136
    @rblinson8136 Před 4 lety +3

    I had an unfortunate run-in playing War in the Pacific: Admiral's Edition with the HMAS Adelaide shooting up a few landing forces near New Guinea. I'd love to learn more about her. Yes, there's Wikipedia, but your commentary is much more entertaining.

  • @Deevo037
    @Deevo037 Před 4 lety +1

    Good solid class of workhorses.

  • @WayneRumble1
    @WayneRumble1 Před 4 lety +3

    Like to see a review of the Royal Navy insect class gunboats that where in use from ww1 right through to the end of ww2.

  • @petertimmins6657
    @petertimmins6657 Před 4 lety

    In the game Atlantic Fleet they have this class of ship available. They offer every hull you named. The graphics are pretty good too in being true to the class as originally designed.

  • @Niitroxyde
    @Niitroxyde Před 4 lety +17

    I like Achilles, she told me how to become a wizard.

  • @neniAAinen
    @neniAAinen Před 4 lety +1

    >Arethusa targeted commerce protection
    Arethusa class actually were fleet cruisers first, trade warfare types - second(only if there really was no other choice).
    Leanders - the other way around. Especially later series, notable for their... castrated fire control facilities.

  • @bairdrew
    @bairdrew Před 4 lety +2

    Just read up about HMS Enterprise that you mention in the video as being a precursor to the Leanders.
    It had a fairly active career but I do think it's a shame it never got to meet it's large colonial cousin. I can imagine there'd have been some amusement to be had for the crews.

  • @Hadesthief
    @Hadesthief Před 2 lety

    My absolute favorite warship design ever

  • @andyjim1734
    @andyjim1734 Před 4 lety +2

    In the film Battle of the River Plate HMS Achilles plays itself as it was now Ins Delhi.

  • @dwaynehicks6838
    @dwaynehicks6838 Před 2 lety +1

    Hmas Sydney is an absolute legend in navel terms , pleased she was I'm the allies side , such a sad demise to a great ship and crew .

  • @jamesflynn6827
    @jamesflynn6827 Před 4 lety +103

    Naval Treaty or why most Tier 6-7 in world of Warships are bad.

    • @local38on-tv
      @local38on-tv Před 4 lety +12

      Never actually agreed with a comment about a naval treaty

    • @noahdavila9819
      @noahdavila9819 Před 4 lety

      💀💀💀💀

    • @aethertech
      @aethertech Před 4 lety +10

      My Perth and Belfast thinks them be fighting words?

    • @ronaldb4885
      @ronaldb4885 Před 4 lety +6

      But aren't the games generally balanced so you are playing against ships of the same tier +/- 1 ?? The ships in those two tiers may not be very good but you generally play against equally bad ships so it pretty much works out... LOL

    • @redshirt5126
      @redshirt5126 Před 4 lety +4

      USS Sims: "Am I a joke to you?"

  • @DaveSCameron
    @DaveSCameron Před 4 lety +1

    I wasn't aware the British had a craft titled HMS Enterprise, thanks again Sir.

    • @donincognito189
      @donincognito189 Před 4 lety +1

      The Royal Navy has had fifteen, the first being captured from the French in 1705 and the most recent one still in service as a survey vessel

  • @legoseller4496
    @legoseller4496 Před 4 lety

    Yay, now I can go captain my Leander in World of Warships armed with extra knowledge :)

  • @darrensmith6999
    @darrensmith6999 Před 4 lety +1

    Would love to see a video on HMS Hawkins and her class.

  • @richarddavies8004
    @richarddavies8004 Před 4 lety +3

    How about covering the Abdiel-class minelayers?

  • @eclipsekcb9201
    @eclipsekcb9201 Před 2 lety +1

    My main ship on WoWs. Amazing ship when you know how to fight with her.

  • @darrellsmith4204
    @darrellsmith4204 Před 4 lety

    Just for grins I took a ride across Lame Michigan on the SS Badger- the last large coal-fired steam ship with a non-turbine engine in the USA. Designed as a rail car ferry and reinforced for ice breaking with steel a couple inches thick, a max speed of 21kt and coming in at 4244 tons, it's practically a WW1 scout cruiser.

  • @Colonel_Blimp
    @Colonel_Blimp Před 4 lety +6

    HMNZS Leander had a busy war including chasing French “super destroyers” in the Mediterranean and sinking an Italian merchant raider in the Indian Ocean.
    At the battle of Kolombangara she was operating with an American force in a night action in the Solomon Is. The Flagship observed torpedoes in the water and ordered a 180 degree turn to port. This was not received by the rear ships and the line dissolved into chaos as ships manoeuvred to avoid collisions. Leander took a long lance torpedo amidships which blew a 600 sq ft hole in her hull.
    Her executive officer for much of the war was Commander Stephen Roskill who later became the Royal Navy official historian.

  • @gshort55
    @gshort55 Před 4 lety +2

    the great pacific war, how do you feel about it, its naval combat as described, and the ships as described.

  • @jamesberlo4298
    @jamesberlo4298 Před 4 lety +2

    Drach, can you do a video on the heavy Cruiser HMAS Canberra, I think it was a unique & Beautiful Ship?

  • @Switcharoo12
    @Switcharoo12 Před 6 měsíci

    I have over 1,000,000 xp on my Leander, I love her! The next ship on my moorings may... may have 1,000 xp, so saying the Leander is my daily driver would be an understatement. She powers and steers like a destroyer but packs a better punch. Plus her 8 torpedoes that can be independently fired is a plus. Leave my lady alone, she's bad ass, and nevermind the thin skin just don't get into more than you can handle.

  • @murrybartlett1177
    @murrybartlett1177 Před 4 lety

    There is a book Well Done Leander by Jack S Harker who was a Wireless Operator on board.
    Murray

  • @jonrolfson1686
    @jonrolfson1686 Před 4 lety

    So, there I was, thinking that Eye-Axe was an obscure cognomen which had been adopted by Odysseus/Ulysses in celebration of his encounter with the Cyclops. Thanks for the clarification re HMS Ajax.

  • @bigblue6917
    @bigblue6917 Před 4 lety

    enough for a game of cards 👍

  • @sugarnads
    @sugarnads Před 4 lety

    A neighbour of mine was a cook aboard Hobart.

  • @erict7840
    @erict7840 Před 4 lety +4

    I want to see a video of Drach singing traditional naval songs

    • @roybennett6330
      @roybennett6330 Před 4 lety +1

      Friggin in the rigging by the sexpistols!!!!

    • @kevinjohnbetts
      @kevinjohnbetts Před 4 lety

      'Sea Shanties' Eric. Navies tend to eschew the notion of singing mere songs, leaving that to the oiks in the army. 😁

  • @chrisVNZ
    @chrisVNZ Před 2 lety

    Fun post-script. For the movie adaption of The Hunting of the Graf Spree, the Achilles/Delhi and the Cumberland were provided on loan to make the movie, starring as themselves, along with three other veteran WW2 cruisers. Authenticity was achieved thanks to the generosity of the Indian & Commonwealth governments who made the ships available for the movie

  • @edwarddunne2758
    @edwarddunne2758 Před 4 lety

    Would it be possible to do a video on Operation Stonewall and the Battle of the Bay of Biscay?

  • @bullettube9863
    @bullettube9863 Před 4 lety

    A very good video detailing why Britain went with quantity rather then quality. America didn't have an Empire so it built the Brooklyn class to the weight limit with 15 6in guns. Obviously Japan built to a different treaty. Italy and France had different priorities; they didn't need to worry about range so they had more armor etc. Germany was included in the treaty because they lost WW1 and thus were "supposed" to follow it's rules. Only the Royal Navy followed the rules to the letter, not because of honesty , but apparently because they were ruled by bean counters.

  • @McRocket
    @McRocket Před 4 lety +3

    Ajax, Ontario, Canada was named after the HMS Ajax.
    As for the Sydney?
    What a sad, sad end she had...sunk by an auxiliary cruiser with ALL hands lost.

  • @maxt7525
    @maxt7525 Před 3 lety +1

    Mate could you do one on the Loch class frigates? My father served on one in Korea. Many thanks from Australia 🇦🇺😃👍❤️

  • @jamesfranklin5541
    @jamesfranklin5541 Před 2 lety

    Ty

  • @Sid-bd5pt
    @Sid-bd5pt Před 4 lety

    One of Leander class cruiser Achilles talked about being wizard in Azur lane.
    She was literally transferred to country full of wizards ( India )

  • @cutlassteam8643
    @cutlassteam8643 Před 4 lety

    Could I suggest a Devastation class guide, please. I was surprised to find no guide on them, considering they were fairly influential.

  • @jessemarcus
    @jessemarcus Před 4 lety

    Have you done a video for HMCS Ontario?

  • @John.0z
    @John.0z Před 4 lety

    I cannot help but observe the vast difference between the conceptual opponents these ships faced and at least one of the real opponents at the River Plate. You would have to conclude that they did well.

  • @alecblunden8615
    @alecblunden8615 Před 4 lety +1

    The improved Leaders - the Perth class - flew the identical flag to their older RN half sisters. The RAN adopted a bastardised white ensign when the RN expressed uneasiness at having their pay shot at in the Vietnam War and suggested it was time for the RAN to adopt it's own flag. And, by the way "Ajax" is the Latin, not a Greek, version, which would be Aias.

  • @rogertulk8607
    @rogertulk8607 Před 4 lety +8

    This was a very interesting and informative video, however, I am certain that no member of the RN ever called the Ajax, the "Ayax."

  • @Peterax788
    @Peterax788 Před 4 lety

    Sir, can you do a video on HMS Victorious, the aircraft carrier?

  • @murderouskitten2577
    @murderouskitten2577 Před 4 lety

    my favorite ship class in Hoi4 :)

  • @geoffburrill9850
    @geoffburrill9850 Před 4 lety

    QnA. Please do video on HMS Exeter and HMS York cruisers.

  • @lomgshorts3
    @lomgshorts3 Před 4 lety

    U.S.S. Indianapolis? A review on that ship would be appreciated. Thank You.

  • @ericamborsky3230
    @ericamborsky3230 Před 2 lety

    Funny how they made the Arethusa class, an even smaller class of cruisers to fulfill the primary role that the Leander class were intended for in order to free up Leanders for fleet actions only for the Arethusa class to wind up seeing heavy frontline action themselves. Just look at how much use the Royal Navy got out of Aurora and Penelope.

  • @gregtag874
    @gregtag874 Před 4 lety

    How about a discussion of Alistair MacLeans HMS Ulysses also perhaps Douglas Reemans HMS Benbecula

  • @konst80hum
    @konst80hum Před 4 lety +3

    If you want to say it greek it's E-as (Αίας). But i assume your tongue would go on strike trying to pronounce that! Lovely video, thank you very much!

  • @yalelingoz6346
    @yalelingoz6346 Před 4 lety

    I've have a ship question that started 4 years ago when looking at a model of the Leander / Perth cruisers. There are raised platforms on the sides of the ship for mounting searchlights and AA guns. And the Leander class seem to gain a few more of them with later refits. (That seems common for this period.)
    What are these platforms actually called? I'm sure they have a hyper specific name (because navies), but I can't find it, and typing "what are the giant metal soapdish dealies on 1st half of 20th century warships called?" hasn't helped. And were they put to other uses that mounting searchlights, mounting AA guns, and hiding when off duty to skive off work?

  • @Cancun771
    @Cancun771 Před 4 lety

    The next ship I'd like you to review is HMS Plym (K271).

  • @hawks1ish
    @hawks1ish Před 4 lety +2

    5/7 is still 70% for production cost compared to county class cruisers tho

  • @127cmore
    @127cmore Před 3 lety

    I have the Leanders wartime pictures and mementos handed down from family.
    Leander was nearly sunk by a Japanese torpedo

  • @ajvanmarle
    @ajvanmarle Před měsícem

    Achilles, after being rechristened as INS Delhi would end up playing herself in the movie Battle of the River Plate.

  • @okanui
    @okanui Před 4 lety +4

    crewed mostly by Kiwis

    • @Deevo037
      @Deevo037 Před 4 lety +2

      A ship full of individuals according to the movie.

  • @michaelsommers2356
    @michaelsommers2356 Před 5 dny

    It's so weird seeing so many portholes on a warship. Hadn't the designers ever heard of NBC warfare?

  • @kidmohair8151
    @kidmohair8151 Před rokem

    elegant brit cruisers

  • @kineuhansen8629
    @kineuhansen8629 Před 4 lety

    hey there here is a ship you should made a video on if you dont have one uss enterprise

  • @edgarhielema6806
    @edgarhielema6806 Před 3 lety

    Please do a video on Ulithi.

  • @tunemaki_izlasitrlv6835
    @tunemaki_izlasitrlv6835 Před 4 lety +1

    My favorite tier 6 non premium in world of warships.

    • @roboticus71
      @roboticus71 Před 4 lety

      It's my favorite for operations. Most versatile and fun to boot.

    • @TheRCScotsman
      @TheRCScotsman Před 4 lety

      It's my favourite ship in the entire game. Tech ships, premiums, the lot!

  • @tramlink8544
    @tramlink8544 Před 4 lety

    now do the Leander class frigate :)

  • @beachboy0505
    @beachboy0505 Před 4 lety

    Best naval power

  • @thedissi3021
    @thedissi3021 Před 4 lety

    I like the Name of the ship ^^

  • @RedwihteGame
    @RedwihteGame Před 4 lety

    What's the name of the first ship in your intro? I can only think of the Northampton class cruiser, but they had one turret on the aft which therefore eliminates this theory. Great video!

  • @jamessullivan7692
    @jamessullivan7692 Před 4 lety

    Great video as usual. I have a question.do you think at some point in time that you could do a separate video regarding obviously only a what if scenario the UK versus Japan only? Meaning that the United kingdom was not in a fight for survival against Nazi Germany.how would the forces of the UK been able to stand up and beat the forces of imperial Japan. I think they would have been able to handle them.

  • @victorboucher675
    @victorboucher675 Před 4 lety

    Pound for pound, perhaps their best efforts pre-war for actual usefulness.

  • @juanmc5731
    @juanmc5731 Před 4 lety

    Just in time for breakfast.

  • @leftcoaster67
    @leftcoaster67 Před 4 lety

    Great job Drach. Question for you. How did nations like New Zealand, Australia, Canada count in the Naval Treaties? Were they considered "Independent" or because they were "Dominions" did ships flying thier flag count against the UK treaty limits?