Jabra Elite 85t - Are They Still for Runner's?

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  • čas přidán 12. 09. 2024

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  • @michaelsesler1158
    @michaelsesler1158 Před 3 lety +8

    the thoroughness of your reviews is very helpful.

  • @IainMabbott
    @IainMabbott Před 3 lety +8

    Love my active 75T's for running, they sound fantastic and are absolutely bulletproof.

  • @catladyrai
    @catladyrai Před 3 lety +13

    Love my 65t active. When they give up, I'll get whatever the newest version is.

    • @VICDOG
      @VICDOG Před 3 lety

      75t is the best option out there, the 85t has several problems from not staying in place like the others to even the right earbud battery draining twice as fast and only lasting 3-4 hrs with ANC off and hearthrough off and I can go on with the problems

    • @warrengaskin3863
      @warrengaskin3863 Před 3 lety +1

      Problem is they refuse to give up. I've had mine since when they first came out and they still work the same

    • @nabeelkhan4770
      @nabeelkhan4770 Před 3 lety

      Don't let them get in contact with water! They should last you longer

  • @Rogelio_007
    @Rogelio_007 Před 3 lety +2

    This is the best review I have seen yet.

  • @excaliburprime1801
    @excaliburprime1801 Před 3 lety +31

    Man I thought I'd find out if they fall out if you go running. Then I see a hat and scarf wrapped around your ears. Smh

    • @ThisIsNotJP
      @ThisIsNotJP Před 3 lety +4

      Thought the exact same thing - can say as a very active person I just bought these and they aren't the best fit for working out

    • @mesi0r
      @mesi0r Před 2 lety

      haha same here xD

  • @rjm9424
    @rjm9424 Před 3 lety +3

    Great video! Was looking forward to this review considering I own a 2 year old pair of jabra elite active 65ts. Love those buds for running. Even dropped them in a puddle of water for 5 minutes and had no issues. Think I’ll wait til they come out with an active version of the 85’s. Thx again!

    • @alexlitsov9032
      @alexlitsov9032 Před 3 lety

      They said that they have no plans for active version of 85t😭

  • @sheyshah2848
    @sheyshah2848 Před 2 lety +1

    You should work for Jabra my man. Wow, now that’s an intro. Beautiful video.

  • @nickfifield1
    @nickfifield1 Před 3 lety +2

    one of the best, if not the best, running and tech youtubers!

  • @aliwins
    @aliwins Před 3 lety +8

    Do you have anything new to report about fit during a sweaty workout? I really want to order the Jabra Elite 85t, but my ears get sweaty so I'm afraid I might have issues with them falling out. Thank you so much for your detailed review. Iowa is gorgeous in winter. It makes me miss winters in Pennsylvania.

    • @cdvr21
      @cdvr21 Před 2 lety

      Hello, just for reference with my 65t only fall off 2 times in about 3 years, doing some HIT workout

  • @louiscameron
    @louiscameron Před 3 lety +4

    10:13 that beardsicle is EPIC. Loving my 75t's now with the ANC update, only problem I'm running into is that when I use them for work and make calls with my iPhone it must sound like I have someone on speakerphone and the other person on the line can hear noise from different rooms in my house.

  • @cesarrodriguez3789
    @cesarrodriguez3789 Před 3 lety +9

    I still use my 75t, they never fail

    • @jerryjohnson2000
      @jerryjohnson2000 Před 3 lety +1

      I have trouble keeping them in my ears. Even while walking around they loosen.

    • @cesarrodriguez3789
      @cesarrodriguez3789 Před 3 lety

      I have that issue with Apple. The beats pro were the only ones I could tolerate besides the 75t.

    • @santuvlogs1606
      @santuvlogs1606 Před 3 lety

      @@cesarrodriguez3789 which is best

  • @ChaseTheSummit
    @ChaseTheSummit Před 3 lety +1

    I had the 75t for a while but the left earbud ended up dying so I moved to the Jaybird Vistas and I loooove them.

  • @TechOutAdam
    @TechOutAdam Před 3 lety +8

    The frozen eyelashes, man that's dedication.

  • @nycabilifeisgreat9768
    @nycabilifeisgreat9768 Před 3 lety +2

    Thanks 4 your video, from one longtime runner 2 another! I’m one of those runners that sweats an artful lot during my runs or while biking! I can agree that the Jabra 75t’s were the best sounding earbuds I’ve ever had. But, I decided 2 return them after 3weeks, because I didn’t have any success locking them in to stay in while biking and running! The left bud would stay in for more than 25 to 30 mins. Without me adjusting it’s fit. So, now what..... I went ahead and ordered some Jaybird Vista’s. LOL! I really wanted my Jabra 75t Active’s to work.... So much so, I upgraded my order to include the wireless charging. LOL! Please let us all know what your revelations once you’ve tested the 85t’s 4 fit while someone is sweating. Thanks

    • @kofuzi
      @kofuzi  Před 3 lety +4

      Once I can find conditions for a good sweat, I’ll definitely update

    • @benbrowning8138
      @benbrowning8138 Před 3 lety

      @@kofuzi send them to me, here in sweaty, summer Australia. 😉🤘 Peak humidity (albeit not as extreme as N America).

    • @nycabilifeisgreat9768
      @nycabilifeisgreat9768 Před 3 lety

      @@kofuzi Thanks. FYI. before ordering the 75t Active’s I had been using and had good success with my Jabra Elite Sports. Of course they come with ear-wings. LOL! So, I’d love 2 go back 2 a Jabra product for the great sound quality and wireless charging! I found that I also had 2 adjust the 75t Actives during phone conversations of 10 to 15 mins. My primary use 4 an in-ear wireless product is running or biking.... My Phone calls are better with other devices while at home or traveling. I currently use my Bose 700 4 phone calls.

    • @soriano3361
      @soriano3361 Před 3 lety

      @@kofuzi update plz

  • @ThePlantPoweredRunner
    @ThePlantPoweredRunner Před 3 lety +2

    Very well done! Great review. I might just get some :) Thanks for the details

  • @benbrowning8138
    @benbrowning8138 Před 3 lety

    Purchased with your own money, so you're a happy customer (and so happy with previous two generations). Will be a great review! 🐨👍

    • @kofuzi
      @kofuzi  Před 3 lety +1

      Overall, yes. Just wish they were a bit cheaper

  • @JordanThomasmedia
    @JordanThomasmedia Před 3 lety +1

    IPX4 is weak sauce. I guess the trade off for ANC made it this way. I was hoping for an 85t active version, but saw that same Reddit article so it might be a hold for me. Great work and super thorough

  • @ebscoHOSTpub
    @ebscoHOSTpub Před 3 lety +2

    I've been using the same Active 65t for a few years now! Pair them with some Comply ear buds and they stretch the usage. Sound quality the same in water and through sweat, which is important as a heavy sweater.
    Took em in the shower once by accident lol. Still working.

    • @warrengaskin3863
      @warrengaskin3863 Před 3 lety +1

      I showered with mines intentionally even directing jets of water into my ears. Call me insane but they still work perfectly to this day. I got them soon after they came out

  • @cjcruz7965
    @cjcruz7965 Před 3 lety +2

    75t active have been going strong. Love the software update to add ANC. Comfortable and secure while running.

    • @arturasminkelis3241
      @arturasminkelis3241 Před 3 lety

      And do you feel difference between ANC and no ANC? For me it's just same.. don't understand why there is no difference.

    • @cjcruz7965
      @cjcruz7965 Před 3 lety

      @@arturasminkelis3241 Yes I do. It won't cancel all noise though. It is significantly better at noise canceling than my wife's Air Pods Pro. You may have to adjust the settings using the Jabra mobile app.

  • @MilesBe
    @MilesBe Před 3 lety

    That looks so cold there!🥶️. Thanks for the review of the Jabra Elite! I guess I have to get some new headphones now. haha.

  • @scottyb7032
    @scottyb7032 Před 3 lety +5

    Not sure if I need to buy new ear buds OR vote Kofuzi for an Oscar (due to elite film).

  • @jensastrup1940
    @jensastrup1940 Před 3 lety

    Great video. Thanks. I felt the sound from the Jabra’s mic was really good. Full disclosure-I’m a Dane, but seriously, I was expecting it to sound much more cupped. It does in some other reviews. Fit seems to be very individual ...

  • @steadfast78
    @steadfast78 Před 3 lety +1

    Thank you... just waiting for it to go on sales at my local retailer.

  • @Juice84
    @Juice84 Před 3 lety +1

    Right now I'm using Pamu Slide Mini's for my runs. They are pretty affordable and sound awesome but I wish the company customer care department was better.

    • @kofuzi
      @kofuzi  Před 3 lety

      Pamu Slides are great, but yeah, it wouldn’t even occur to me to try and get some customer support. Not really having any seems to be one of the ways they cut costs.

  • @warrengaskin3863
    @warrengaskin3863 Před 3 lety +3

    I own the 65 and 75t Actives, with these i've gotten caught in torrential downpours while running, I don't know if 85t would survive that but those older devices have no problem with getting wet or dust

  • @polarisb518
    @polarisb518 Před 3 lety +1

    As a runner and a bike rider their IPX rating just doesn't cut it.
    Can not use them in pouring rain or in the terrain due to sand and dust, let alone during the summer and sweat pouring all over.
    With their price tag and open design they are more like buying LV or Rolex to be used in controlled environments.
    Very high quality but absolutely not suited for outdoor sports.

  • @jesusm..
    @jesusm.. Před 3 lety

    Thank God you are back to non manual writing for your stats!!👏👏👏👏👏👏

  • @tritondriver1
    @tritondriver1 Před 2 lety

    My 65t's finally died - Finally. They were awesome. Not mad at all

  • @TheTrini1980
    @TheTrini1980 Před 3 lety

    Like you I am a fan of the Jabra elite series. The shape of my ear canals are maybe a little usual and I have always had problems with earbuds falling out, especially from my right ear. I've used Jabra Elite Sport since 2017 and that were the best running earbuds I ever owned; great sound quality and never fell out. I recently upgraded to the 85t and while the sound quality is amazing, I feel like its not designed with the runner in mind like earlier versions. The earbuds don't feel secure when I run. I can feel them moving outwards while I run and I find myself constantly pushing them in my ear canal. They haven't fallen out yet but they always feel like they are about to fall out. On top of that I find that the semi-open design creates this wind tunnel effect and the sound of wind around me while running is very loud even with the ANC on. In general the I don't like the pass through feature because it mostly ends up amplifying wind more than any other sounds that I want to hear while I am running. Overall, I am a bit disappointment with the 85t. It seems like Jabra is moving away from making earbuds designed for use during workouts.

  • @scottallison3489
    @scottallison3489 Před 3 lety +2

    I've always struggled with ear buds. I can never get them "anchored" right so they'll stay. Especially on a sweaty summer run.
    My choice for audio when running is Aftershokz. Not the "studio" audio experience but I can hear external sounds easily and they never move around when I'm running. I've got earbuds I can use on cold days when I wear a hat. The right tools for the right day I guess

    • @prod1gy305
      @prod1gy305 Před 3 lety

      I hear you. I’ve never found earbuds that stay in my ear the entire workout 😞

    • @genysmenrunner1677
      @genysmenrunner1677 Před 3 lety

      Powerbeats pro is a good option with the earhooks. Very good sound also.

  • @joaovitormaia2428
    @joaovitormaia2428 Před 3 lety +4

    as a brazilian runner I can't imagine how someone can run in this climate where you have snow on the beard

    • @big_edd
      @big_edd Před 3 lety +1

      As an American runner, neither can I

  • @kevinparmele5796
    @kevinparmele5796 Před 3 lety

    Love the reviews. I was just wondering how you think these compare to the Powerbeats pro (if you have run in both)?

  • @BearMetro
    @BearMetro Před 3 lety

    Literally the main thing I'm trying to find out is if they hold up during very sweaty runs. My galaxy buds have been annoying. Ghost touches from sweat and constantly start slipping out after about 30 minutes running. Great review btw.

    • @BearMetro
      @BearMetro Před 3 lety +3

      I've used them twice during some long runs. They stayed in my ears and weren't annoying like that buds plus and buds pro. I haven't noticed any sound degradation from the sweat yet.

  • @peternacken4730
    @peternacken4730 Před 3 lety

    Gosh, last video of your's I saw was for the PowerBeats Pro, seems like 10 years ago :) One thing I was hoping to hear from you in the video was about the dreaded 'runner's thud', that reverberating footfall amplification you'd get with most IEM style buds .. semi opens like the Bose SSF or the new QC earbuds don't have that, also the Samsung Galaxy Beans ... but as you point out, those semi opens are not the best in the IPX arena ... so, what's the footfall sound on these? Cheers! (oh, greetings from Sri Lanka, where running in 90˚F is a real concern for IPX ratings related to sweat)

  • @malegazeofficial
    @malegazeofficial Před 3 lety

    really hope they'll change their mind on not making an active model. can't really defend the pricing for that fit and lack of ip rating, especially compared to the active 75t.
    i do like the advanced mic and gold-beige colour of the 85t tho

  • @pocpocpocky
    @pocpocpocky Před 3 lety

    I was wondering if you have had any problems with voice calls when you are in a slightly noisy environment? I have a pair and people are complaining that they are hearing everything around me, but my voice is not very clear. Thanks.

  • @MonstersSeeMeToo
    @MonstersSeeMeToo Před 3 lety

    I even have a review with the 75t on my channel, I compared it with 4 other buds brands, but out of all my favorite were the 75ts, they just didn't stay in my ear. I have big ears, they barely felt like they were in my ear, and fell out soooo easily, I had to twist them into the weirdest shape just to get some traction inside my ear. I sincerely hope this redesign is a better fit, I've seen a display model and they seem beefier than the 75t.

  • @markuskrinke1886
    @markuskrinke1886 Před 3 lety

    That was really helpful! I'd have used them primariliy for calls at work and only as a backup for running, but if they pick up your voice that bad... meh, skip it.

    • @regnismada4936
      @regnismada4936 Před 3 lety

      I was keen to hear what they sound like for voice calls compared to AirPods. It's this and running that interests me too

  • @seanlim222
    @seanlim222 Před 3 lety +1

    Is there a big difference between the 75t and 85t in terms of anc and sound quality?

  • @mr1derful83
    @mr1derful83 Před 3 lety +5

    Searching for the Jabra NON Elite. Those would be more my speed

  • @javierf55
    @javierf55 Před 3 lety

    I have the Jabra Elite 75t earbuds and are fantastic. I had some problems with the quality of the signal pairing with a Garmin Fenix 6 Sapphire watch but the issue was solved just using the watch in my right hand.

  • @SpiKrishPri
    @SpiKrishPri Před 3 lety

    I have the Sennheiser Momentum True Wireless 2 which are very good for running. They are IPX4 water resistance, and still I put them 20 mn in the washing machine at 86°F. It took several days of drying before I had all commands back but they are all working now. I recommend those Gems, but audio call are not very good.

  • @AsGuusual
    @AsGuusual Před 3 lety

    I love the fact that the Jabra's don't have the stem design like the airpods. I really don't like the way those looks. I guess that the fact that they're better on pretty much every other aspect as well is a nice extra? :P

  • @edelsteinfunkler
    @edelsteinfunkler Před 3 lety

    Nice review :)

  • @cpatrader1
    @cpatrader1 Před 3 lety +3

    Hi, thanks for your review! I bought the 75t Elite Active. My problem is that every step I take, I can hear the pounding of my feet on the ground. This is because the ear canal is completely sealed. I'm wondering if anyone else has this issue? It makes it impossible for me to run using earbuds. Thanks!

    • @saraa.9860
      @saraa.9860 Před 3 lety +1

      I have that issue as well when hear through is on, I've ended up keeping hear through off and running on the sides of paths and trails, avoiding roads. It really is such a nice experience running in my own world with the noise cancellation, but definitely scary when a biker passes me and I had no clue anyone was behind me.

    • @cpatrader1
      @cpatrader1 Před 3 lety

      @@saraa.9860 I've tried with hear through on and off. I can run for a bit, but then, the pounding starts to give me a big headache. I'm really surprised I haven't heard this from more people. It really makes it impossible for me to run with these earbuds!

    • @gavinmok4061
      @gavinmok4061 Před 3 lety +2

      Yes I have the same issue with you. That’s why i stayed away from earbuds and stick with airpods until I got the airpods pro recently. No such problem with those.

  • @eulogyforadream
    @eulogyforadream Před 3 lety

    I bought the 65T active last February. They are ok. Sound quality was good. However, the fit wasn't spectacular. The mic suddenly stopped working. They are still under warranty. However, their customer service has been very slow. I'm not sure if I would buy them again.

  • @eggy333
    @eggy333 Před 3 lety +1

    Any interest in trying out bone conduction headphones? Also do you have a drawer full of earbuds at this point? Lol

    • @kofuzi
      @kofuzi  Před 3 lety +1

      I’ve tried them before. They are just about impossible for me to wear in the winter

  • @yiding
    @yiding Před 3 lety

    They fit well for me during sweaty running.

  • @santuvlogs1606
    @santuvlogs1606 Před 3 lety

    Sony wf1000xm3 vs Jabra 75 t elite active vs Jabra 85t vs oppo encho x vs your choice
    Which is no 1 for sound
    Please reply .......

  • @AirBrice
    @AirBrice Před 3 lety

    Nice video as always . Team jaybird Vista .. i love them so much for running

  • @adelineng7883
    @adelineng7883 Před 3 lety +3

    Will there be an “active” version, with improved waterproofing / sweatproofing?

    • @AnkushChauhanMystic
      @AnkushChauhanMystic Před 3 lety

      Yes they are coming

    • @dylansutherland6075
      @dylansutherland6075 Před 3 lety +4

      According to a response on the Jabra subreddit they do not plan on releasing an active version due to the semi-open design reducing the waterproofing of the earphones

  • @hunterm.moreno4201
    @hunterm.moreno4201 Před 3 lety

    I have owned the Sennheiser Momentum 2 for a long time now but had to send them back after some damage. I'm thinking about getting these just because I want something new. Plus I'm trying to be more careful with money. I might buy them just to test

  • @pging8328
    @pging8328 Před rokem

    btw thanks for your recommendations. do you have a coupon code (not the affiliate links)? I don't want to click on those links, but I would like to give you the credit for the hard work you've put in - making the video etc. pls LMK your coupon code for amazon?

    • @kofuzi
      @kofuzi  Před rokem

      I don’t provide links for products that I review. Thank you for your consideration

  • @rkelly5803
    @rkelly5803 Před 3 lety

    Picked up a set of refurbs for 120 to upgrade my 65s because the battery life is crap in the 65s now.

  • @garsoltero
    @garsoltero Před 3 lety

    I'm pretty sure the mic test didn't work. The audio from the earbuds was exactly the same from the iphone

  • @Rizkuhawawa
    @Rizkuhawawa Před 3 lety

    Hey, I had shortlisted these and have been waiting for the price drop in India. My only concern was around the buds falling out as I would be surely doing some running(light but not jogging) also I am someome who loves to run in the rain.
    So can you tell me if I can stick to these( they are my favorite otherwise) or have to look else where

  • @ronniechristie5599
    @ronniechristie5599 Před 3 lety

    Very Good Review 🍀😋🙏👍

  • @butchhighwayranger4930

    Have you had a chance to run without neck wrap to test for security and fit… falling etc.?

  • @benbrowning8138
    @benbrowning8138 Před 3 lety

    Sorry I have to ask, but...
    Is the kitchen decor a similar vintage to Kofuzi? Brady Bunch?

  • @JDelta87
    @JDelta87 Před 3 lety +1

    I’ve used the 65 & 75t active versions. For me, they stay in a little longer than the non active versions but I still found myself readjusting them often during my sweaty runs/workouts.

  • @enkidu2562
    @enkidu2562 Před 3 lety +4

    I am an enormous fan of the Jabra Elite Sport. Waterproof, so they can go in the shower for podcast-listening. Bought them in 2018 and they're still going strong.

    • @AlvarWahle
      @AlvarWahle Před 3 lety +1

      Mine recently caved in after about a year and a half, so looking for an alternative now.. wish the 75/85t had the same clips for added stability

    • @enkidu2562
      @enkidu2562 Před 3 lety

      @@AlvarWahle mine had something like a 2-3 year warranty, so I recently exchanged them for a new pair free or charge! Look into it.

    • @AlvarWahle
      @AlvarWahle Před 3 lety

      @@enkidu2562 yes, they were covered by warrantt, but that exact store didn't have the same model in stock. Only the elite active 75t/85t etc

  • @CR-lz6tt
    @CR-lz6tt Před 3 lety

    What do you think about the 75t vs 75t active for running?

  • @icywind32
    @icywind32 Před 3 lety

    Just ordered mines through Amazon. They were on sale for $178. So now I have to figure out what to do with the 75t

  • @juddandrewuy9995
    @juddandrewuy9995 Před 3 lety +1

    Audio hug sells the earbuds.

  • @leonthesleepy
    @leonthesleepy Před 2 lety +1

    im struggling to choose btwn this or 75t active. they are both the same price now, using it for running

    • @kofuzi
      @kofuzi  Před 2 lety

      I've never tried the active

  • @tonyyeung5591
    @tonyyeung5591 Před 3 lety

    Still using my elite sport for more than 3 years now. I need my ear bud to be waterproof coz I’m a super sweaty person and I have flooded so many ear buds before

  • @rwfthesr
    @rwfthesr Před 3 lety

    The only problem I had with the 87t Looking down to check air or tying my laces the right one kept falling out. Also imagine looking down in the bathroom 😁. But the extra mic is probably the reason for the IPX4 rating.

    • @kofuzi
      @kofuzi  Před 3 lety

      maybe try a different tip for the right ear?

    • @rwfthesr
      @rwfthesr Před 3 lety

      @@kofuzi medium in the left and large in the right. Obviously I tried every combination since there is only S M L 😁
      I had the same problem with the AirPod Pro. Everyone’s ears are as different as finger prints.

  • @omridamari
    @omridamari Před 3 lety

    Did you check the fit issue without the hat? Can you share?

  • @enigmaticreverieproduction5169

    I went with jaybird vista due to price. So far I'm happy but wish they made them smaller haha

  • @kevinvantroyen
    @kevinvantroyen Před 3 lety

    Stilk use the elite active 65 t, they're the best

  • @liangshepherd
    @liangshepherd Před 3 lety

    I had 65t for a long time only use it to run for a couple times since it would fall off. Couldn't use anything without earhooks.

    • @kofuzi
      @kofuzi  Před 3 lety

      I feel you. For a while, I was the same way. Although in the last coupes years, I’ve been having better luck with earbuds without loops

  • @PSL09
    @PSL09 Před 3 lety +1

    still on the 65t

    • @kofuzi
      @kofuzi  Před 3 lety +1

      I still have mine somewhere.

    • @isidorusa5322
      @isidorusa5322 Před 3 lety +1

      I bought my 65t in December 2018, and used it to listen to this video just now.

  • @soriano3361
    @soriano3361 Před 3 lety

    Any update now that it has warmed up?

  • @911S
    @911S Před 3 lety

    Right? In the snow my foot

  • @traderhines76
    @traderhines76 Před 3 lety +2

    I’ll be honest. I’m so sick of Jabra. I have the 75t active and now they come out with this but the improvements are marginal at best. I guess the biggest gripe for me is that you can only use the right ear independently for every model including this newest model. Like come on Jabra.

  • @kimwarner6050
    @kimwarner6050 Před 3 lety

    I'm so glad I live in Florida. I would freeze to death otherwise

  • @bowlingqueen
    @bowlingqueen Před 3 lety

    Getting strong blade runner Hans Zimmer vibes from the running montage.

  • @danny13188
    @danny13188 Před 3 lety

    These are terrible for me. They would always fall out cause of sweat

  • @Formerly-known-as-Steve

    I was convinced the kitchen scenes were green screen!

    • @kofuzi
      @kofuzi  Před 3 lety

      GoPro 5k in harsh indoor light: pretty terrible. Although, it’s more a result of the lighting than the camera.

  • @jarosmironen
    @jarosmironen Před 3 lety

    Do they fall out of your ears when you exercise?

    • @kofuzi
      @kofuzi  Před 3 lety

      not yet

    • @jarosmironen
      @jarosmironen Před 3 lety

      @@kofuzi Even without a cap?:) Are they better than Powerbeats Pro?

  • @bimosixpack
    @bimosixpack Před 3 lety

    They are sucks. The right battery decrese more then the left bud, the anc is not really good, the fit is not good also , they use oval nozzle and its hard to find replacement eartips, for sport? Noo you will lose your earbuds

  • @321bytor
    @321bytor Před 3 lety

    Runners. No apostrophe needed.

  • @pging8328
    @pging8328 Před rokem

    Dude, where are you running like in Antarctica or something? I reckon you should move some place warm e.g. sub-saharan Africa the snow and slippery / dangerous roads are intolerable. what if you slip and break your ankle, you could freeze to death? yeah no thanks.