The Last of Us Part 3 Is Inevitable
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- čas přidán 5. 01. 2023
- The Last of Us Part 3 is inevitable. There is more story to tell in Ellie's life. Naughty Dog has been relatively quiet on all working projects outside of the occasional update on Factions and the incoming HBO debut. But post The Last of Us Part 2, the environment for a sequel is different. Naughty Dog can take things many ways.
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If they don’t make a part 3, I would love if they made a game about Joel and Tommy during the early days of the outbreak. I wanna see just how brutal the two of them were in their prime
I wouldn’t mind that either. It would be great. I think we just need to finish the main thing first
I would love to see that as like a prequel or like what they did with left behind and make a dlc/ standalone or something, or even just a full game in itself..
However, Naughty Dog has confirmed a plan for Part III so I doubt they would pass up the opportunity to be able to make it..
Now, lets imagine a prequel of any part of Joel's story after the events of Sarah and Before the events of Robert (since technically that was the earliest event in the game besides Sarah)..
Joel said he worked as one of those pricks who would ambush you so that would be interesting but like what else because I am prettys sure he did multiple things as well, even his current Boston life surely had some excitement to it.. XD
That’s why we will get two more games the part 3 and a prequel to tie the entire series up.. it will get 4 games like uncharted
I still don’t understand why so many people ask for this, like what would even be the plot. They were just smugglers and hunters.. killing and stealing from innocent and not innocent people, how is it appealing having an entire game about that? 🤦
@@marxhonore9414 are you normal
Part 3 will likely be about how Ellie, who lost everything, finding meaning to her life again. Just like what happened to the Joel 20 years later after he lost Sarah. I do hope Ellie won't be starting the game with Dina and live peaceful life. Maybe Abby finds what she was looking for, and form a new fireflies, her path may come across Ellie again if she decides to continue her father's work.
That’s a really nice way of putting it! The final cycle. Ellie pulling a Joel
Dude seriously the whole farm thing don’t want to see great for a show but a game no haha
Yes and I want them to go deeper with the ”cure” and also explore different parts of the world not just America
@@Repaduski no pulling a Joel would mean restarting the cycle, it needs to be where Ellie was put in a similar situation to Joel but Ellie has the emotional strength to let go and be better than Joel
abby is infected though
Ellie's arc isn't fully complete to me so i agree on a part 3, it would be nice to see sum sorta redemption for Ellie because as seen at the end of part 2 she isn't completly over the pain just learning to use it for something better instead of revenge
Anything could happen at this point. I just think they need to sort out what the cure means to her
I say I would agree that there would be more to Ellie's story but we arent the creator to this fantastic story.
If Dr. Uckmann deemed it necessary then we probably wouldnt see Ellie again or at the least maybe a feature of the next game..
Thats if Dr. Uckmann deemed it necessary but I think.... I hope that Ellie does get one last story, it would be nice for Ellie to have if not a happy ending atleast an ending that could be classed as redeeming for her as this video pretty much said.
Also this is why I absolutely loved Part 2 and its ending.. I understand, blood, violence, revenge but.... This isnt Doom Eternal!. XDD
But more with a serious point, its telling a story, whether its heartbreaking and people hate it or not, it felt right the way it ended..
Abby is a piece of dogwater at times as well but that really only portrayed in the worst way for her..
If only she was shown in a different light..
I played the game and for the longest time I stopped, it was at a bit where I started as Abby for the second time, I was let down I think but also I didnt stop on purpose.. Got carried away with life I guess. XD
But when I eventually came back and played the game I focused on playing the story again and kinda got to a point where I forgot about the entire point of the games story, I was playing a character I started to like and it was enjoyable which made each scene watching the two characters Ellie and Abby fight eachother.. Like the stress and anxiety of having to choose and like ofcourse I choose Ellie but... I didnt want to choose.. XD
I think that may have been the way Naughty Dog would have wanted people to feel when playing the game..
Sorry for massive reply as well.. XD
@@Repaduski I actually dont know about this part tbh, like I know when a theorist makes a theory that doesnt mean its facts but I watched a theory from GameTheory.. They looked further into the cure, the disease and more..
I will say the results where pretty much leading to the whole thing about Ellie saying its not a cure, I definitely recommend giving it a watch, I dont think it owuld be too hard to find since I dont believe Matpatt has done too many The Last of Us theories but I have to say from what he has shown and what he lines up with his theories and I guess technically ingame evidence, I dont know what to believe but I feel like I kinda believe him on it..
To say that what Ellie has though couldnt be turned into something that could perhaps supress it or something, I dont know..
I should rewatch it.. XDD
@@eddiebaledy this is why the game doesn’t need to be about the cure itself. Just what Ellie’s immunity means to her
Wouldn’t it be funny if the sister or brother from some rando Ellie killed in part 2 kills her in the 3rd hour and then you play as them for the rest of the game?
Cant even be mad at that point it would be too consistent and honestly a decent way to carry on a franchise.
I feel like Ellie is still going to end up being the cure to mankind in part 3. Joel got what he wanted by keeping her alive and enjoying the time he had with her and watch her have a life. Ellie’s still gonna get her chance to make her life matter. imo
@AcenoxiRiley Abby's path is very clear to revive the fireflies Ellie's is still a mystery
I think one of the main problems is… when there is a cure what happens? The world has still gone to shit and raiders + the religious groups will still be a thing along with many other groups who are not going to willingly join forces to ‘recreate’ the world. The cure can be a good thing (to heal people that have been recently infected) but I feel like the ending would feel empty in that case since the world will never be normal again. I might be thinking too deep tho 😂
I dont see why so many of you are clinging on to the "cure" subplot.
Bringing it back for Part 3 would seem pretty contrived as the knowledge to develop a cure (let alone mass producing and distributing it during an apocalypse) is quickly dying out with the Pre-infected Generations.
@AcenoxiRiley She and Lev went to the new Fireflies onclave at Catalina Island.
@@techzone1552 it never really made sense to me that upon finding someone with immunity your first action would be a presumed fatal vivisection. Seems like you would want to take time and experiment to identify the root of the immunity rather than kill your only host in a few hours or less, which is almost more compelling of a reason to save her from slow torture. And it's still a good dilemma, she may believe she has the fortitude to endure it for humanity's sake and that's noble, but she is still a child who can be manipulated and shouldn't have to sacrifice herself.
I think most of us want Ellie's story to be that of a happy ending but as the saying goes you reap what you sow.
It’ll be bittersweet. She’ll probably sacrifice herself for humanity or something.
@@iTrustInTheMusic thats so generic and predictable
@@sex06 Good she will die in the process but scientists won’t be able to extract a cure, better ?
@@iTrustInTheMusic would defeat the entire point of the first game and the consequences that happen in part 2 cause of it
I highly doubt it will have anything to do with a "vaccine", its highly unrealistic..But I can see her getting herself killed for someone she cares for, or even an innocent family/children. I don't think it will be a big omg she saved the world, but she may save a tiny little piece of it.
The Last of Us Part I explores regaining humanity after a traumatic event whereas Part II explores losing humanity after a traumatic event. It’s a wonderful, beautiful, and overall fantastic story. Can’t wait to see what the third will be about!
I agree. Why did people hate part 2?
@@universovoid8721 cuz joel died and nothing else
@@imnotgaybut7673 Joel dying had to happen to advance the plot. What do they want a lot of a second game to be? Just him and Ellie hanging out?
@@universovoid8721 not Joel getting killed in one of the worst possible ways an hour into the second game, ending his story so early into the series maybe? A completely different plot that doesn’t focus on characters a lot of us just aren’t interested in at all too?
@@universovoid8721 Because Ellie didn't kill Abby at the end which made it feel extremely anti climactic. That's why most people hated it.
I agree with the sentiment that not every ending needs to be a happy one and that these can be just as moving. Thanks for the video.
Of course! Thanks for watching it.
Well said, I agree that Ellie's arc isn't finished. I can imagine a part 3 taking place years or decades into the future when Ellie is even more similar to Joel. Maybe there's a version of this where JJ is a young teenager and Ellie slowly becomes a surrogate mother figure. Part of the story could intersect with Abbie again or only mention her in passing if so much time has passed.
If it’s set decades later, I would like to see some evolution of the cordyceps, maybe even introduce tendrils from the hbo series.
My favorite series of all time .. when it’s all set and done it will be remembered as one of the greatest stories of all time.
Gotta finish it just as well! Let’s see what they got
@@Repaduski let’s say if ND did make a new ip what kind of game would you prefer?
The story is pretty meh. Part ones story isn’t exactly amazing, but it’s the bond of Ellie and Joel that really captivate all of us. It’s why the game is so good.
Part 2 is dog shit. Literally dog shit. The story is fucking terrible, and it ends with Abby being spared, which makes no sense. Why kill all of her friends and loved ones just to let her go in the end. There’s so many stupid things about that game.
After part 2 was released, I don’t think Tlou has the right to contend for the best stories in gaming. I think we leave that to RDR, GOW, and Uncharted.
@@Zedumbass24I for one thought the story was great in both. Part 1 wasn’t anything we haven’t seen before, but it was executed very well. Part two left me drained but, I thought about it days after finishing the game.
Although divisive, I believe that’s what makes it a unique memorable experience. Some people hate how it made them feel and thus hate the game itself. Some people feel the story fits the gritty unforgiving world that ND created.
The emotion the game creates amongst critics and fans is truly what makes it so special in my opinion. 🙂
@@Zedumbass24 Here is a video from someone who used to think like you but ended up realizing he actually ended up liking it: czcams.com/video/hB79L0Qtk5U/video.html
I’ve always believed that a third part would come and it would be about forgiveness. That way it could be love, hate and forgiveness. I would love for part 3 to focus on Ellie forgiving herself, her mistakes, and finding her spot in the world.
I'm curious to how they gameplay would evolve around forgiveness.. Since I love the brutal aggressive violence in part 2
@@traviscue2099that’s the conundrum. How do you create an amazing story that brings Ellie’s story full circle while giving the game an excuse to have the brutal, and just absolutely amazing combat they’ve created. It’s gonna be hard for them.
@@thebeezneez3539 agreed. Hence why a cure won't ever be a the picture imo
@@traviscue2099 in all honesty. I think the truth everyone is to scared to admit is that we might be done with Ellie’s story. I would be devastated to not see her in Part III, but it’s a genuine possibility that Abby and Lev take the reins.
@@thebeezneez3539 I actually think Ellie will take a backseat too.. but I think Lev and Abby are over too. I think we're going to get new characters who Ellie will be involved with.. but they may be 75% of the story and not Ellie.
I've definitely always been in the camp that TLOU should have stayed as a standalone game. I even felt that if a sequel was going to happen it should be a separate story with new characters. Obviously that's not what we got however. While Part 2 isn't my favorite game ever I do think it is a perfect sequel if part 3 lives up to what I think it can be. Her immunity not playing a major role in part 2 I think works really well if that becomes the focus again in part 3. I just feel it can tie the whole story together really well. I hope we see part 3 relatively soon though, I'm kinda getting tired of TLOU 😬
We will see how tired you are when you are walking around SF with a group and shooting people down in a cruise ship 😎 I can’t wait for a story to bring it home about ellie as a human. Dig super deep in that and let’s come home strong. Then new IP time while factions is still going on. The perfect balance
L take
@@headtaker02 definitely did you can’t just have that ending and then leave it if you only wanted to do one game then finish out the story in one game and their characters were not finished
@@headtaker02 dude everyone with a brain know Joel and Ellie doesnt need to exist in the sequel, Abby would have been an amazing character if Shes fighting NEW sympathetic characters, but noooo Neil need ad revenue and Market and rope old players to the new game SOMEHOW. it's all just greed. Just make new characters, stop being edgy.
@@headtaker02 But it got one anyway and it's amazing
Part 3 is all about Ellie waking up and it turns out Part 2 was all a dream as Joel brings in a cup of coffee and breakfast in bed - “good morning kiddo”
Fu Joel I'm happy they killed him off
Please
Grow up
I want a Tommy DLC. They could do a similar structure to "Left Behind" where we follow Tommy's journey during part 2 from Jackson to the theatre, while giving flashbacks to his backstory surviving with Joel, giving us more context to his relationship with the Fireflies and Eugene, and how he met Maria and how Jackson got started. It would be an ambitious project but just think about how incredible that would be if done correctly.
I"ve always thought the arch for Ellie is doing exactly what Joel did in Part I - kill everyone just before she's sedated to reunite with Dina ... they'll have to build the third game around the two characters, but it's something I'd love to see. Ellie does the right thing on her journey to realize in the last moment that she cares for someone and is willing to do horrible things to have it for herself. Showing her happy (with a doomed civilization) with Dina and reflecting to understand Joel's motive would be beautiful from my seat.
Great vid, subscribed.
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I was just thinking this today , Ellie and Abby putting their differences aside to try to save humanity and bring some hope after the long journey of two would make it feel like it was all worth something .
It feel like it’s gotta happen like this second one leaves it so open.
I just finished the game a few days ago and I literally thought that Ellie and Abby would have had to work together to escape the final group that captured them
This is the ending that ultimately will happen tbh
Part 1 Love, Part 2 Hate, Part 3 Forgiveness.
3 will probably explore Ellie trying to find meaning in life, finding a better purpose aside from being the Immune Girl.
I'd like the story to have a similar theme like 'No Country For Old Men', where the world is coming back to civilization and the days of fighting to survive is coming to end.
The story should be about the ending of the old age, the age of survival and fighting, and the old finding meaning in a new age.
That would be genius.
I'd like to point out that Ellie has only ever bitten two people, and of those two, only Abby is still alive. There's a very real opportunity to explore the possibility that Abby was infected by the mutated cordyceps and is now immune herself.
omg this would be so cool to see
Wait who was the other person
@@mogy7331 David from the first game. He kidnapped Ellie, then she bit him and shouted "I'm infected!" She later escaped and killed him soon after that in a very stressful boss fight.
Dina and Ellie probably did things more infectious than biting, so I doubt it. Also, Joel, her, and anyone that's shared drinks with her, been sneezed/coughed on by her, touched her sweat, etc. would have died before part 2 began.
In Ellie’s flashback when she was sniping with Tommy you can check her diary where it’s revealed even she was worried about possibly infecting others through bites, but when a crush of hers (not Dina, someone else whose name I don’t remember) kissed her by surprise, Ellie panicked and later wrote that she showed no symptoms of infection, so yeah, given that and Dina not showing any signs of infection after kissing her, it’s safe to say Ellie can’t infect others.
If you’re unsure about how credible this comment is, check Ellie’s diary while playing through the Tommy flashback.
As much as I would like a part 3, I'm afraid Naughty Dog kills Ellie this time. It is not hard to imagine her wanting to sacrifice herself for a cure...
They already proved in part 2 that they don’t care about her character so I wouldn’t be surprised
@@drs_21 they explored her character entirely, what do you mean?
@@drs_21 kill thyself
@@tylerwhite7710 from a character that everyone loved from the first game, they pretty much turned her into the antagonist and tried to make everyone hate her. That’s literally character assassination how does that show that they care about her?
@@Blip-qz9ch you aren’t cool or unique for trying to be different
Pt 3 will begin with Abby and Lev finding the fireflies who are in contact with a firefly cell from South America who has the oriiginal Patient 0 who is infected and contagious but not turned or growing fungus from their body. One of the doctors working their finds out that by combining both Ellie’s and patient 0’s dna a cure can be made but only if they are alive. This will take us to back to pt 1 where Joel saving Ellie from the surgery actually saved the worlds only hope for a cure. More to come that will add to this!
I literally said “wooooow” after reading this.
I thought the rat king was patient zero
@@2Horrible not necessarily. That hospital was ground zero for that specific city. Patient zero could've been in many places
That sounds awful
Yeah it sure would be great to tie a pretty little bow on everything and completely invalidate all the nuance in the story. I hope they sell it to Disney and make it happen!
In pt 4 they discover cordyceps can bring people back to life and Ellie will revive Joel and they can fight off the alien invasion together.
I could see a third game where Ellie seeks out the remnants of the Fireflies to see what chance at redemption she has if she can find them and still do something good by making the cure. Maybe Abby’s father’s notes and the work of the original group Joel slaughtered still exist and can be incorporated somehow. But there’s a minor difference as the plot progresses, there is a chance she could survive, but it’s only a 10 percent chance or something. I could even see a fitting ending shot. Part 3 ends with a shot of Ellie going under for surgery and the game cuts to black as she closes her eyes. It would bring a trilogy full circle. Both in context, Ellie herself going back to seek the fireflies for a chance at a cure, as well as redemption, only this time it’s Ellie’s redemption instead of Joel’s and she finds it on the same journey, and it would leave the same ambiguous ending where people would discuss for years whether Ellie survived or not based on what transpired or what she learned through the game, or it would leave that one piece the first game always had. Hope.
the issue with ellie giving herself up for the cure is it completely undermines joel's decision in the first game, which went beyond just the selfishness of him not wanting to give up his surrogate daughter for a cure that saves humanity when in reality, humanity cannot be saved. what we learn in part one is that the good of humanity is so sparse. bad people run things now--even the fireflies are morally ambiguous. we see it with the hunters, the cannibalistic group that david lead, the WLF & seraphites, and the few good ones left, like henry and sam, are not compatible with the unfortunate reality that the last of us is in.
joel knows that humanity is not worth saving, and that really one of the only good things left in the world, like childhood innocence and pure goodness that *was* ellie, should not be sacrificed for the garbage that humanity has became. she deserves to live her life, and this is something ellie could not grasp until she herself went out into the world as an adult with less naivity after joel's death. she saw the sheer horror that the seraphites and WLF did to each other over their stupid tribal feud that got them both killed in the end. like the seraphites hanging and stringing up WLF soldiers, and the WLF killing a bunch of seraphite kids for trespassing.
in the end of part 2, she realizes why joel did what he did, and let abby go. he did what he did because ellie is good, and goodness is scarce. killing abby would have just put the cherry on top of the terror she inflicted on people completely unrelated to joel's death. she killed hundreds of people just to get and kill one person. joel killed dozens of people in the hospital just to save one person. they contrast in this way. ellie, in part two, has succumbed (you could say inevitably) to the evil that is within the world, but we know she is still good inside, there is a chance for her redemption.
what i'm basically trying to say is that i think part 3 should absolutely wrestle with the cure and the dilemma that comes with that, but she should choose to not die for it. because at the end of the day, what is she dying for? the fireflies would have posession of the cure because of her, and then what? it will obviously become politicized. who should get the cure? the hunters? the cannibalistic tribes? who? she should focus on redeeming herself through whatever medium (maybe through jj?) and live the rest of her life in jackson.
i think the end, the message will be humanity is simply not worth saving. the world has gone to hell, and bad people run the world now.
sorry for the long answer but speculating on part 3 is so fascinating to me!
What ur saying is right. All these people saying Ellie sacrificing herself for the cure only retreads part 2 because part 2 Ellie has already come to terms with her survivor’s guilt. She knows she should have died for a cure for 2 years now. She has a life. I have absolutely no idea what part 3 will be about. Like absolutely no idea
Funny thing? There was never a guarantee for that cocksucking cure. Thats why Joel decided to keep his found family together.
@@chadmann2724 I don’t know why the cure is a cocksucker, but also that’s why the above is just speculative. A ‘what if’ scenario. Yes, the game doesn’t say for sure whether a cure definitely could be made. Just as it doesn’t say it definitely could not. But it at least it sure implies that it could work. At no point does Joel ever say he doubted they could make it, so that was never why he saved Ellie.
@@mandrews6282 im going to be honest, i was going about saying that neil took it apon himself to write the script for 2 when he got jealous of the writer from 1, not realizing he shed those writers who filtered out some of his ideas back in the day didn’t write a script by him/themself so as much as I hate 2 i know the cure wasn’t even a guarantee back then for whatever reason and now because i know how to google search what the difference between a virus and a fungus is… not that i spend every waking hour using google because I can’t trust the search engine for a variety of reasons
Im not happy with the game but people say there was a flashback of Joel and Ellie being well written meaning Neil can write when he’s not grifting
It should be about Abbie finding the fireflies and finding out they have a doctor with the ability to save humanity just like her dad but they need Ellie again just like the first game. So Abbie goes hunting for Ellie again and once together they need to work together to get back even after everything that happened in part 2
Ngl that wouldn’t be that bad coming from a person who didn’t like last of us 2
Love it
So to make Joel's sacrifice for nothing? No thanks
@@gsifdgsgs this time it wouldn’t Joel making the choice for her it would be her making the choice for herself.
@@joefur2835 Joel did this decision to show her life matters. If she can't understand this and still tries to sacrifice herself then the last of us1 goes to trash
Think it’d be cool to have an ending where, Abbie and Ellie realize that a cure could have never happened and that they both wasted so much time being angry at Joel. And maybe they both have to be the bigger person and leave, knowing that they both did horrible things they can’t take back. And the ending of the game is more about becoming better, for everyone’s sake
I appreciate that you touched on the fact that Part II was a tonally appropriate ending. I hear a lot of people talking about loose ends... "Abby's still out there. Ellie has to finish what she started." I believe people who feel this way missed the whole point. Part II is complete because both Abby and Ellie had multiple opportunities to end the cycle of violence and they both finally chose to do just that. Ellie lost almost everything, but she finally made the right choice.
I actually hope Part III will not be a continuation of this storyline. Remember that the story progression of Part II revolved almost entirely around characters we had never met before, aside from Ellie and Tommy. I hope the writers do something similar with Part III, creating a story that is truly original and adds even more depth to this world we've all come to love so much. I believe Ellie has to be at the center of the story in some way. Other than that, I hope they surprise us.
Honestly, I think we're out of threads and investment. I mean sure people still care about Ellie but to me she's kind of done as the main character. She lost everything. Nearly died doing it. I just don't know where you can take it without either bringing back her cure MacGuffin or just having Abby's people go after her for a cure again. All I know is that there can't be a happy ending. Ellie and Abby will probably have to team up
If they do make part 3. I want it to be just as special as the last 2.
good video, and very good points !! thank you !!
I genuinely got depressed when Abby lost her gainz she looked so broken in the end I truly sympathised with her she really lost everything
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Well spooken my man.
This. Thank you for making this video - well done! Part II was a klaxon that outed many “fans” for never truly understanding what TLOU is about. And you nailed it here - it’s about Ellie. Ellie quite literally is The Last of Us. All of these talks about prequels and different countries and different time periods and different people - none of these fans understand what the game is about. It’s always really bothered me. Thanks again!
Thanks for watching it! I don’t think we need tinder other countries. Unless they want to throw it in the multiplayer
The damn game wasn’t and isn’t about Ellie it’s about survivors in the apocalypse and what they will do to protect the ones they care about. The first game was solely about Joel and how Ellie began to change how he felt and filled a hole Sarah left when she died and a second chance to save someone who reminded him of Sarah no matter the cost he wouldn’t lose her again…it would have drove him down the darkest path yet and he knew that… pt 2 is solely Ellie’s story and what having a father presence in her life did to change how she felt and what she would do if anything ever happened to him and abbey was following the same path as Ellie abbey’s part of the game is what ellie is now going through
I need it to happen. I want to check in with Ellie and see how she’s doing after everything she went through. I also want to see where Abby and Lev ended up.
abby and lev are where the menu screen is when you finish the game. think it’s catalina island.
Great vid. Everything I've been thinking about. 🤔 🎯
Fantastic video. I love the bit about Ellie needing to find herself again.
If part 3 is the final in the timeline that we've had so far it would not surprise me if the story of the last of us ends with Ellie sacrificing herself to save the rest of humanity. It's what she wanted the first game it is why she got mad at Joel for taking that choice away from her. So I can see her seeking out the fireflies in order to sacrifice herself for a cure and the story ends with the end of the infection
i mean that could be an interesting ending but i do think some of the questions of tlou part 2 were whether or not can ellie find meaning in life outside of being humanity's cure. these definitely could be throw away moments but the fact that ellie still had a community to go back to jackson, if she wanted to, does hold weight. her relationship with dinah ( even if the ending is open and can be interpreted in many ways), jj, tommy, etc. if ellie can find her community, or her reason to keep surviving, it would be a more interesting question on whether or not she would still want to die for the rest of the world.
@@Vecha302 okay so presenting alternative in the first game she wanted her life to mean something. In the second game she was pissed when she found out what Joel did to save her because he took the choice away from her it may be Disney style ending as you put it but going off the other two games it fits with the character that has been established in Ellie.
@@trevvy2124 now you bring up a good point I like that I was just thinking about her character ark so far in the last two games
I think part 2 suggests that ellie was mostly okay with not being sacrificed, and was primarily struggling with finding meaning in her life for which that was a convenient scapegoat. I have a hard time seeing her sacrificing herself and leaving her family, which is presented as her path to redemption
@@azadjalali1359 they legitimately have a scene where she went off on Joel for lying to her and taking the choice away from her. She went as far as to end the relationship with him and wanted nothing to do with him but agreed to go back to Jackson If he told her the truth right there if he didn't she was going to leave. I guess you can argue she was mad because he lied but she's specifically said he made the choice for her. For Ellie it was always why did Riley die and I didn't it was survivor's guilt and this was her way of making up for that in a way. But that's the beauty of the story overall so many people interpret it differently
I really like this video, and I totally agree that Part 3 needs to happen. Part 1 sees Joel finding a purpose (taking care of Ellie), Part 2 sees Abby finding a purpose (taking care of Lev), and now I think Ellie needs to go on a similar journey. At the end of Part 2 she has lost everything and now she needs to go find something to live for.
Great video! I agree with this take and I had not thought about it before
I loved borth Part 1 and Part 2 and I agree that they are very different takes on the story. Part 2 was very well written and well made but damn did it make me feel some bad shit during it. It didn't go exactly where I wanted but I loved the story anyway. I love the game so much that I can't even get myself to play it again because it would be too emotional haha
Great video! You sound like Justin from SuperMega
After how bad the writing was In the 2nd game I can live without a third.
Great video! I completely agree we need a part 3. I personally think Abby being a high up member of the fireflies and researching a cure and trying to find someone still alive who had the knowledge to make a vaccine would be interesting. Lev also being the commander of the fireflies armed forces would be fitting too. Seeing Ellie alone and maybe become a smuggler like joel would be interesting she would have to face her worst fear of being alone and this could have a lot of devolpment with her character. Maybe she takes Joel's role on and becomes like him to some kid, which would make the trilogy come full circle. However I could see Abby having alot of conflict within the fireflies since she knows Ellie is the only immune person but I highly doubt she will go after Ellie, maybe this cause conflict within the fireflies since Abby effectively tried to erase knowledge of the only immune person and the fireflies end up finding out.
Lev is like 12, how he gonna be a commander
@@marxhonore9414 time skip
I'm in agreement with you here. Some things I didn't like about Part 2 but it's story made the most sense after Part 1. Part 3 will happen, but I do also think that it has to be the end of Ellie's story
Awesome video 👍
Whatever direction they take, I am eager for more. I hope there is more to explore with Ellie, and heck, I would not mind if the next one focuses solely on Abby, whom I grew to love!!! Or if they tell a completely new narrative with different characters, then that's fine, too!
I look forward to what Naughty Dog decides!!!👍👍👍
I think they need At least one more Ellie focused game. I can’t imagine a mainline game without that character. But I’m very down for more Abby and Lev
They need to finish the story with Ellie for sure. Some people don’t want the third game because they believe it will be about Abby. When I don’t think that will be the case. To me, Abby is nothing more than a factor for the sake of Ellie’s development, which is why they kept her alive at the end of part two. Still, since it’s rumored part three is already in development, I am curious what they’ll do after that.
Spoiler: abbey gets killed by a relative of a victim from part 2 a few hours in. Then you play as that person for the rest of the game. Then in part 4 you kill THAT person and play as THEIR killer for the rest of THAT game.
Sorry it’s already decided. We will use tennis rackets for abbey and wiffleball bats for the next protagonist.
@@ryanelliott6706 Stunning and brave storytelling! Take my money!
@@michaelmartinez9042 lol did we play the same game? Ellie didn’t change at all. She’s still baby Joel at the end, pushed everyone away because they chose to live in anger and not love. Joel was coming around at the end and then he basically reverted during the beating, trying to shield himself from more pain. Abby was able to change once she lost everything. Abby and Lev are Shrek and Donkey tbh. Lev and Donkey are both static characters who inspire change in their counterparts. Abby and Ellie both lost their lovers to revenge. They are literally the epitome of foil characters. They will be back together. Imma be pissed if they kill her because i love that’s she’s not whiny like Ellie. And I’ll miss her revenge muscles. 😢
I think they should make a spin off on what Joel and tommy did during the outbreak before they met Ellie
Wow man amazing video essay
Thank you so much!
5:53 well she doesn’t possess the cure or any cure for that matter, she’s just immune.
I'm not a fan of Part II. However I still am intrigued to see what they do with a part III. My hope is that Abby get's further fleshed out as a character. I want to see more of these two in a room, forced to deal with their shit and forced into seeing the others perspective on things. I think that would be a interesting story.
Part Two puts to rest the back and forth cycle of violence and revenge. Everyone got even with each other, but no one actually “won” anything.
Since that cycle ends with Part II., my question would be, how do you continue from there? You can always write another story, but is it one that’s actually worth telling, or art for art’s sake?
It’d sell millions of copies off name alone, but what would the reputation or response be afterwards?
I dunno man. Abby was the only character who had a closed arc. Her story was essentially paralleled with Joel's. Being broken by the death of a loved one, losing humanity, slowly building it back up through the innocence of a child (Lev). If there was a part 3 then I doubt Abby would be in it, it would be an Ellie story for sure
Ellie kills a couple hundred people in part 2 any one of their friends could come back for revenge. nothing was “put to rest”
@@mamba7160 Lmao. Literally all of the WLFs are killed by the end
@@msaadah1223 so you don’t think there’s a single living loved one of ANY WLF members
@@mamba7160Did you play the game? The scar battle was a total annihilation. Abby listened to the radio and found out that nobody made it out alive. Granted, not all of the WLFs are soldiers, but without soldiers how long could the rest of them last with the infected and Scars in the city?
This was a great video!.
Also what, this was done 50mins ago, what a video to wake up to.. XD
I agree with this and would love to see a third game, whether the game follows Ellie or Abbie but I would like to see them give a final conclusion to Ellie's story..
I just think there would be a very good story left to tell about Ellie. Only one more though. I’d love more Abby. But I think they need to focus Ellie and have a bit of Abby’s story
@@Repaduski I will agree.. CX
Also jeez, fast reply.. XD
Thanks.. CX
A couple of things:
1. Part III has been confirmed more or less by Neil Druckman. There is a making of part II documentary that is on CZcams where the last scene is him saying that “it does feel like there is another chapter to be told in this story.” He has also discussed a possible DLC or spinoff just involving Tommy.
2. There is more or less confirmation that Abby does find the fire flies and it wasn’t just the rattlers baiting her out. Keep in mind, she was on a HAM radio and anyone can be listening as well as chime in and they were in an area marked with the rattlers tag so it’s fair to assume that they may have been in the area and heard the conflict with the infected that you encounter before you find the right house. However, at the end of the game upon completion the title screen changes from the boat docked at the rattlers base to it stranded on a beach in front of the building described by the firefly on Catalina island which is apparently the Catalina casino.
Through it all, Ellie IS the hope, she is the light in the darkness even at her darkest she shines as a character.
Until she is dead, Hope lives on in the last of us
exactly. i think this is what joel had in mind when he slaughtered the fireflies. ellie instills hope in people not just because she could save mankind with her sacrifice, but who she is is a genuinely good person, and that is so hard to come by. arguably, it's as rare of a commodity as a cure. her very existence proves that the good of humanity can still live on in face of all the bad, and her lack of existence dims the light that shines in the darkness. a cure won't save humanity. maybe an uptick in morals will.
the fireflies act as if they are the light, but they just contribute to a cycle of never-ending rebellion and violence. look at the wlf and the serpahites. both believed they were right, and both caused their own extinction because of their self-proclaimed righteousness. if the fireflies were to gain complete control, i can wager ten million that they'll become just as draconian as the military. it's so ironic. the fireflies claim to be the light in the darkness as they try to snuff out an actual light in the darkness.
I think they should go a completely different direction and follow Ish from the sewers in Part 1. Could have the whole intro be what happened in the sewers being overrun, then the game pick up after him, (I forget the women’s name that was with him) and the kids escape. Could just go in so many directions and for a character you only meet through notes Ish is captivating.
I think that would be an awesome idea for some dlc
Remember when Joel and Ellie are in the truck and he runs over the man who needs “help”? Joel knows it’s a trap and Ellie asks Joel how he knew and he says “I’ve been on both sides.” It’d be cool to see how Joel did the good/bad to get to where you play as him 20 years later
I really really hope that part 3 does mostly revolve around Ellie finding purpose in her life. I do understand that part 2 could also be left as it is for the end of her story but I really think ND purposefully had her character evolve the way she has in order to carry out the story to be alongside her life pretty much. I know that ND has a very special place in their heart for Ellie as a character (I mean you can just see it in the world they've created around her and how much thou 1 and 2 has been a labour of love). Truly an incredible game.
Very nice approach, for me was the ending of part 2 perfect...very sad but it felt real. I never thought i need or want a part 3 but u got me thinkin here.
I just hope we dont have to wait 7 years again, if they make another one ; )
For me it’s simple if we get a part three Ellie and Abby have to go on a long journey together. Make us care for Abby as Ellie grows to care for her as well. Especially as she can’t properly use a gun anymore so she will not be that one girl army anymore
If not a part three we need a prequel. Joel and Tommy’s time as hunters during the 20 year period before last of us. They were killers who took vary different paths after all.
You're by all means entitled to feel however you feel about it... but do know that for a lot of us, we do care for Abby. I feel like that's what the developers were trying to achieve.
I’ll never understand people that didn’t want a part 2 or say a sequel to any game “isn’t needed” if ever a sequel needs to happen it’s last of us 3, there’s so much left untold by the end of part 2 it needs to be followed up on, I loved both 1 & 2, I’m eagerly awaiting for when part 3 is announced, there’s zero doubt in my mind, the only question is when.
It’s definitely the next thing. It just makes sense with what’s happening with the show and multiplayer. Have to keep the momentum going.
@@Repaduski 💯
I was scared of a part 2, i was scared they would not be able to replicate what they did in part 1. I was scared that they would make a generic sequel, a sequel that did not need to be made. A sequel that did not have the same emotional weight as part 1. Part 2 had to justify itself to me and it did that in abundance imo. I understand some people were upset about its direction and its structure to me i was just scared that it wouldnt be able to justify itself.
@@slickstar96 No sequel “needs” to be made in the grand scheme of things, let’s just agree on that but let’s say it didn’t live up to the original or it was just this average mundane sequel… that wouldn’t take anything away from the first game, thankfully part 2 lived up to part 1 & in many ways surpassed it, I applaud Naughty dog for taking huge risks & swinging for the fences, I honestly don’t think any other studio would’ve have the balls to do what they did knowing they’d get some backlash but they did what was right for the story & stuck to their guns.
@@TheMarine316 it doesnt take away what the first game did but it hurts the franchise as a whole and just becomes mediocre. look at how people percieve game of thrones they acknowledge its a good show but say the ending diminshes all the investment in it.
Last of us had to live up to the hype because it inspired soo much. Thats why i am glad they went with that ballsy story. Even if it now makes it a sensitive topic to speak about in gaming.
Definitely the potential for another beautiful story. I love how the first game has such a massive focus on Ellie and her immunity. It's literally the driving force. Then like you said Part 2 has almost zero focus on that and it works so well.
The immunity was always a plot device for the emotional journey at play
Perhaps a dlc for Joel & Tommy how they survived the outbreak and what they did to stay alive. Of course we want to see a wrap up of Ellie’s story.
I love how people are finally coming around to part 2 now.
Yeah, I was extremely sad to see the bad reviews when the second game first came out. Tbh I still don’t understand why they said such bad things about a perfectly well made game just bc they didn’t like the ending. I’m glad people are seeing its worth now.
What I am hoping for since the TV show is following the games, I want to see part 2 delayed, so we can get some more Joel action from between tlou1 and 2.
@@melonheadgaming4254 If it has purpose and not purely for fan service then I’m all for it.
While there never should have been a sequel in my eyes, I'm interested in seeing where they go next. Maybe it'll be better than part 2. We will see.
Great analysis as always, my friend! Just beautifully worded. I don't think The Last of Us Part 3 has to happen - but you're certainly right that this concept of continuation in games has been a norm. It allows studios to make more installments of franchises people love. Regardless, I personally want Naughty Dog to settle for something newer than The Last of Us. Knowing Sony, they'll likely continue it. Which is exciting, but worries me at the same time. I just want them to do it "right", as we all do.
What a great video!
Thanks so much!
"a bad season of tv doesn't ruin the journey it took to get there"
uh. Yes it does.
I think TLOU3 Story will be more like Logan (2017) but without wolverine’s claws, clones etc. etc.
Wasn’t Logan kinda like TLOU haha
@@Repaduski it kinda was. But it would be great if Neil would take some inspiration from Logan for TLOU3 like he did with MGS2 inspiration for TLOU2.
@@oksanapashenko Logan is a carbon copy. They is nothing to take
@@Repaduski fine, fine. It was worth the shot.
But what about Samurai Jack season 5?
@@oksanapashenko I still haven’t finished that lol. Come back to me once I have
Great stuff man.
We definitely need a Part 3 at some point, when Joel got Killed that was when Ellie turned into Joel for me and became that harden battle-weary no-nonsense Character out for straight revenge and lost everything for it, even though that Flashback of Joel near the End made her Relies, she has someone too Protect and Live for, like Joel did in the end with Ellie but it was ultimately too late for her.
In Part 3 I can see Abby with Lev building the Fireflies back up and looking for that Cure but not after Ellie due too Respect for letting her go in Part 2 but a Kid instead who is rumoured too be immune. Ellie on her Travels probably looking for Dina bumps into this Kid who Walked Off and got Lost from the Family, Ellie decides too Help the Kid find their Family but doing so, they Full into a Pit of Spores with no Masks On and then Discovering the Kid is immune also, so the Story Begins possibly lol.
Okay I have two ideas -
1) Prequel of Joel, Tommy, Ellie trio on some mission.
2) After part 2 Ellie recruiting people to fight against the mutated strain which makes the infected a lot more dangerous and hard to deal, which would make her life mean a lot even without being the cure.
I hope Ellie gets a full redemption journey in part 3. I think that would be the best way to close her story, especially if it involves working together with Abby, similar to Gray, that WLF soldier who had to cooperate with a scar named Zachary in order to survive.
Ellie doesn’t need redeeming, all of Abby’s people got what they deserved.
@@anonymousanonymity2815 for what? Giving Joel what he deserves?
That one-sided mindset has aged like sour milk.
@@Ori_Kohav actually no not really since Abby and her gang of irrelevant morons don’t get characterized at all before murdering the most or second most loved character of the first game. I’m sorry that no “oh I was pregnant” or “oh I take care of my dad” or oh “I play fetch with cute doggos” is going to overcome the first impression of holding down joel and smashing his face in with a golf club.
Oh and the idea that Ellie who is apparently so worked up over Abby that she leaves everything and everyone she cares about, doesn’t end up killing Abby because what? She suddenly is enlightened and realizes “oh durrrr cycle of revenge bad” is the most cliche, lazy, unbelievable shit I’ve seen in a while from a game that is hailed as “high art”. If you didn’t expect Ellie to spare Abby at the last second you have experience enough media.
This is a game with characters I care about and character I don’t care about. I don’t care about Nora or Mr spit on Joel’s body, hence why I cheer when he gets headshotted by Tommy and why I laugh as I chase after Nora with a pipe
@@anonymousanonymity2815 in other words, you’re just too one-sided to have an open mind (especially considering Abby’s similarities to Joel, as well as to Ellie), and expect this series to go the fan-pandering path of the Dragonball series, with the badly aged cliché of always the same protagonist, or said protagonist getting away with everything. Well, guess what, no such pandering in this story. It’s M-rated, so Joel’s not getting the Goku treatment.
@@Ori_Kohav oh yeah cause that’s totally what I said I totally said that I was mad BECAUSE Joel died.
You know what? I was buying in by the time you got to the theater with Ellie when Abby busts in.
If you want to act like stopping the pacing in the middle of what IS the climax was anything other than a baffling and stupid choice then idk what to tell you. You wanna tell Abby’s story? Fine. Tell it in parallel with Ellie’s. They did that for the first two hours didn’t they?
I have no problem with Joel saying his name, I have no problem with him standing in the middle of the room, I have no problem playing as Abby. I have a problem when you stop the story in it’s tracks to make me do it, this making me hate doing it because I want to get back to a suspenseful tense scene of the game. And I hate that they expect you getting 10-15 minutes of screen time with these people will make you feel bad (presumably) for killing then people who killed your first or second favorite character and doing it in front of your first or second favorite character.
The only exception is Owen who shows (gasp) a little fucking remorse about torturing a guy to death then killing him in from of his surrogate daughter. It’s funny, I wonder why he’s the only one I felt mildly bad about. Couldn’t imagine why.
But hey me laying out reasonable reasons such as not believing character decisions and that the final act of the game was totally unnecessary because the point about the cycle of revenge had already been made, somehow equals me being a close minded moron who wants Joel to go into VATS and kill Abby and her group at the opening of the game.
I wish part 2 never happened, I don't want anymore.
I want the last of us 3 to be about ellie finding her humanity and finding a value to her life other than her being immune. I also want abby and ellie to find a way to help the world other than a cure.
If the last of us part 1 was about love, and the last of us part 2 is about hate, part 3 must be about acceptance. This makes me think that maybe ellie and abby will work together on their way to save the world.
However, after all i said, im hoping for naughty dog to surprise us again. Whatever they do, im sure it will be awesome. Cant wait for part 3.
In my opinion, the only way to end this series on a satisfying note is for Ellie to sacrifice herself for the cure. Willingly. It'd be such a sad, beautiful, poetic end to her arc. All Ellie ever wanted was for her life to mean something.
They kill Ellie, make the cure, and it completely fails because they have dogshit technology, contaminated equipment, no trade network large enough to distribute it, people will immediately start killing each other for it, and roving gangs of murderers, cannibals and r@pists are still all over the country/planet with zero interest in returning to civilized life.
I feel like people don't actually think this cure thing through. The fireflies are...LOSERS. They have never succeeded in...anything. And we now expect them to seamlessly pull off the largest scale, most difficult operation in human history.
Imagine if part three, if it ever gets made. Abby finds that group of fire flies she spoke to in part 2, and they’re so happens to be a doctor there and all of her fathers research and studies and that kind of stuff is still there and there’s a doctor that possibly could do the surgery. And the whole game is about both Ellie and Abby looking for each other. Then the last few hours of the game is of Abby finding her and letting her know that there’s a doctor willing to do a surgery, then Ellie choosing to sacrifice herself. And the game will end with a four or five minute cut scene of her prepping for the surgery and laying back down on the table and the camera is above her slowly zooming in to her face and may be a few flashbacks of Joel and everyone she loved. Then she would slowly start dozing off because the anesthesia starts to kick in, and it fades to black, and that’s the end of the game end of her story.
Lmao, that’s trash
That under cuts Joel's action in first game while reducing it's impact. I don't want to see Abby again or do that hole back and forth storytelling.
I would be satisfied but I don’t think it’s gonna happen
@@thehourcal3670
I wouldn’t be surprised if Neil Druckmann actually does this, he LOVES cringy teen drama 😂
TLoU3 will 100% happen especially if they pumping out so much for the IP. I don't think you have to worry about that. All you have to hope is for them to stick the landing... Also yes I have nothing else to say on this subject as I didn't play the games lol
I’m not worried about sticking the landing. I’m sure it will be as good as part 1 and 2 at the very least. But yeah they are gearing up for the long haul with this IP no doubt lol
I think Abbie should be forgiven like Negan was in the walking dead and that would bring a new story to tell and I think it should end with Ellie giving her life to save you humanity
I actually hope we get to play as Lev, that would be amazing.
I think last of us 2 should have involved Ellie’s immunity way more like they brought it up but just in passing not lingering on it the story could of been similar to what it was just maybe including the fact that ppl and the different factions are after Ellie for different reasons, Abby’s group still has got a lot of ppl from the fireflies so they kinda want to push to find her while also the revenge Abby wanted while the religious group want Ellie as they don’t want there to be a cure and all that, I just think they could of gotten way more and expanded on that as it’s a bit odd to end Ellie’s story like they did unless they we’re going to make another one following up but then it’s a bit over kill.
but I loved Ellie’s character so I do want more but there’s not really much they can explore unless ppl were still after her or maybe there being side affects to her bite
is there even a single person who thinks Naughty dog isnt gonna make a TLoU3?
Surprisingly yes
If the tv show flops hard then maybe not. Cause its not up to Druckmann but it will be Sony's call.
I agree with the ending of ur message
Part 3 needs to follow up on Ellie and Dana’s relationship it was poorly ended in part 2 and always thought from that “part 3 will happen🤞” hopefully
I almost certain Ellie is leaving too go patch things up with Dana
Not sure how the story will develop doh!!
Imagine Abby makes it to the fireflies and she mentions Ellie and somehow thre fireflies put 2 and 2 together that Ellie is immune girl who was taken from them years ago and then it could be Abby tracking Ellie down to convince her to come back to the fireflies. It would also he fitting if she agreed, died for the cause and then we find out a cure is still impossible.
I just want more Abby.
Part III will be about Abby and her journey to become a man
Great vid bud 👌 we need a part 3 so bad. I'm not a fan of Abbie but I get she will be in there. I'd rather a prequel with Joel and Tommy the 20 years they survived before Ellie. Spin off game and have part 3 about Ellie and Abbie
Hot take: TLOU should've always been an anthology series. Its the Last of US, not the last of Joel and Ellie. Or if not there could be a common narrative to tie the games together ie. I always thought there could've been a new post apocalyptic religion that centered around the myth if Ellie being the cure for cordyceps, the "savior" as it were. Imagine a cult hunting her down to sacrifice her thinking her death will save them. I think that'd be a better way to do connected sequels
This is an interesting take. I don’t know if it’s hot. However I think you will get this with Factions considering it will contain an entire narrative now in San Francisco. So you might get your wish!
but the entire point of the last of us from the beginning, was to show the intimate relationship and growth of two characters within a hostile world. Joel and Ellie are the focus, the heart of the story. The world is their obstacle.
I honestly feel like they killed off Joel way too fast. People longed to play as Joel and Ellie again, and they couldn’t just give us that.
My theory is that joel is alive . Because abby was hitting his head with the golf club , we got to see him barely breathing . But in the last shot , we didn't get to see joel . It was just ellie screaming and abby hitting him for a last time and then the golf club covered in blood and prolly joels brain tissues or something idk . Then ellie blacksout , tommy was also blacked out . And abby and the crew most likely left joel there thinking he was dead . Then the only mention about joel after that cutscene is the scene with ellie crying on joels grave . So we never actually got to see what REALLY HAPPENED to joel after that cutscene ! They never said they buried joel under his grave so it is most likely just the tombstone . I think that joel is alive somewhere but badly injured . He is most likely didn't die even though he was shot in the leg with a shotgun . He sure may have died but ABBY FRIGGIN TORNIQUATED HIS LEG TOO !!! I hope this makes sense
@@hedeslightning that makes 0 sense. Sorry bro
@@myoldvan119 idc i aint playing another lame ass lou game without joel 😤 hope they finna keep him alive in the show at least
@@hedeslightning I doubt that cuz they buried him. 😕
@@joshuaalejandro42 i went through the game again and it's confirmed that he is dead cuz we get a cutscene after ellie blacksout , that dina comes and wakes ellie up and shows joel lying next to her dead . And also in the last fight scene with abby we get a quick shot of Joel's face after the chaos with abby . It clearly shows that one of Joel's eyes opened and his head has been severely damaged and most of his blood veins and shi outside on his face . So he is definitely dead :(
Part three in my opinion should be about Ellie. Let’s not forget abby bit Ellie’s fingers off, you can’t just bite an infected and sweat it out. But would it be cool if Abby does manage to reach the fireflies in Santa Barbara and they actually found another person that was immune and had developed a cure or at least a suppressor.
I can’t wait to play tlou3 both games are my all time favorite thank you for always doing the best videos 😍😍
I really want to find out how Tommy got so good at sniper? That mission was really scary.
ngl, part 2 is my favorite piece of media and it would cheapen it for me if they continue ellie's plot. Saying it's inevitable for them to make a sequel makes me feel like you didn't really feel satisfied by her ending, but for those of us who liked it the ending works best open-ended. We have no idea who ellie will become after accepting her grief and that abby must live, and that's freaking cool
That’s kinda of how I and a lot of people felt after the first game. But ultimately, Part 2 was my favorite thing ever. Consider this, we won’t see any meaningful news or gameplay of Part 3 for quite some time. So we have no idea what Ellie is up to! Kind of the happy medium between both. The world and gameplay alone are far and above anything else. I would love to see a Part 3 eventually.
I strongly think part 3 should be centered around Lev while also delivering Ellie and Abby some type of happy or at least at peace ending. Centering it around Lev would add a new and attractive element to the story but you absolutely have to give Ellie some type of peace after all the horror she's been through, day one fans just want to see her happy.
Happy ending? Nah. Brutal pointless death would be more the series style.
@@WiseOwl_1408 they bet not do shit to Ellie or I'll hunt Druckman down myself lol she's had enough
i agree, we aren’t quite done with Ellie.
The DLC took us back to when she was bit with Riley. Part 1 was focused on getting Ellie to the fireflies. Part 2 is about Ellie going thru the grief of witnessing and losing a surrogate father and coming to terms with it after essentially losing almost everything.
American Dreams centered around Ellie’s life in the QZ, so this whole story and the comic series prior to the release of the first game really is about Ellie and her journey
This is what I was thinking, except I think Lev and Abby found the Fireflies or some equivalent. They've already been trapped/ambushed once, so story-wise something new needs to happen
Would for Lev to be a playable character. I'm really fascinated by what he and Abby have been up to.
Would be like Atreus lol
@@Repaduski Hey, if makes for more gameplay variety, that's cool.
Your partners in Part II were always doing things to just break the immersion. Although, you sort of forget about them after a while. But they're very "yeah we're there, I guess".
Personally I would prefer Part III to be about Ellie, new characters and new stories.
Abby and Lev being DLC or a sort of Uncharted Lost Legacy type spin-off would be my jam.
Although, considering the reception of these characters for various reasons, a standalone thing might just be thought to be too risky of a project in terms of return on investment if it's too large.
Stories being focused around the characters you pilot is always more engaging to me, with some exceptions of course.
The more characters they are, the less each of them have time to shine individually and develop relationships with eachother.
I just want a proper sequel. The Last of Us 2, not Part 2, 3, 4, 5. I want a new story, new locations, new characters. The possibilities are endless in this universe, there are so many fates that could be told. It doesn't even have to be set in the US, maybe we can explore a story in Europe and what happened there, or Asia. Just anywhere else than another story about Ellie.
Agree 100%... I would even argue some of the notes we picked up during part 1 and 2 are more intriguing then joel, ellie and abbie story.
Great video I hope we do get a part 3 maybe it ends with both Abby and Ellie finding the fire flies for different reasons
imagine if they made an espionage/stealth ip and filled the void left behind by splinter cell and metal gear
That will be great if they make the last of us part 3
It’s happening
I don't really want there to be a Part III. I see a lot of people saying that Part II ends with Ellie at her lowest, and that she needs to redeem herself in Part III and that Part II has a sad ending, and I don't really agree with any of that. Ellie's lowest point is not in the moment where she walks away from her empty home with two missing fingers, its in the moment where she almost kills Abby. Trying to kill Abby cost her everything that meant anything to her (Dina, JJ, Jesee, her relationship with Tommy, her ability to play Guitar/connection to Joel, etc.) but in that moment where she spares Abby, she keeps something more important than anything else she lost along the way: her humanity. If she had killed Abby, and returned back to that farmhouse, still carrying the trauma of what happened to Joel with her, that would be an unresolved ending that I could see all those points being made about, but that isn't how it ends. She spares Abby, and forgives herself for not taking advantage of all those years with Joel where they were no-contact, and begins to take steps towards resolving some of her trauma. That to me IS redemption for Ellie. Not the entire journey, but the first step of a journey that we don't need to see.
If we were to see Ellie redeem herself, what would that look like: Making up with Dina and trying to fix her family that she broke? Making things right with Tommy, who is bitter that she could have killed Abby but chose not to? Learning guitar left-handed, not as effecient a player, but good enough to keep the skill? Maybe she goes on a journey of self-discovery and travels the country looking for meaning, trying to live in peace to attone for what happened in Seattle? These sound fine, but they aren't enough to fill a game with, and they also would not be good PLAYABLE stories. A Part III about Ellie means that she has to be in a position where she is killing infected and, very likely, humans again, and I just don't like the idea that the next part of Ellie's journey is filled with more violence. I don't see any point. Ellie's journey towards redemption isn't done, but I don't think there is any way to tell the story of her redemption in an interesting way in a Part III.
And I also don't really like the idea that Part III could have Ellie give her life for the cure. The whole point of the last scene with Joel in Part II is that Ellie has to come to terms with the fact that her life has meaning OUTSIDE of being the cure for the infection. Her life DOES matter, and she leaves that house at the end of Part II to go find that meaning. Ellie making the cure in Part III just ignores everything she just learned.
I don't know, I figure Part III is coming eventually, and I'll see what it's about before deciding definitively that I don't want to play it, but I have a hard time imagining a Part III that can continue her story in both an interesting AND a narratively satisfying way. For me, Part II is a perfect ending.
this didnt age well
Honestly, i think part 2 wasn't even necessary. Not talking about drama or any of that, i just think that Ellie and Joel story was closed perfectly in the first game. A perfect sequel for me would have been same universe, different characters.
I'm ready for TLOU3 as well. The story telling is amazing. I'm not into multi-player games though so unfortunately I'll be skipping the next game they are coming out with. I look forward to hearing people breakdown the story aspect of it though.
My initial thought is they will mirror Joels actions in the first game with Ellie about to give her life so the cure can happen, only to flip in order to save someone she cares about, eg Dina's child. Thus choosing not to save humanity but the people she cares about.
Part 3 is as necessary as Part 2 was, IMHO. This has the potential to be one of the most satisfying stories ever... at least that's how I feel about it. Nothing has ever impacted me more.
What redemption could mean for Ellie... I really hope ND recognize that a vaccine will not cure humanity of the problems that ended the world... it's so relevant to what's going on today, too.
Gotta make it to a civilization. U should be able to pick between the 2 characters at the beginning