There are things about this video I don’t like. Watch his two part documentary. Have him on the pod cast Joe. This kid was not forced to do this. This kid was obsessed with it. Pure nonsense. It was later in life when he wanted to go have fun and get some pussy. That’s when the parents turned….strict.
@@bobbowie9350I reckon they’d have a lot to talk about , it’s tiger woods for gods sake, joe literally says how he finds hitting a golf ball and technique behind it is fascinating , or did you not watch the clip ?
You can't really argue that. Late 90s/ early 2000's Tiger was unstoppable. If he could have kept playing without the drama and injuries, he would've beaten all of Jack Nicholas's records. We really never got to see what exactly he was capable of.
@@reggiesbush9699Quite positive that’s exactly what jsee just said? You can’t argue that he wasn’t better than anyone was at anything, because he was simply the best.
Tiger was as dominant in golf as anyone has ever been at a sport. But even Tiger only finished top 10 in 199 of 374 career events and won 82 times. Name any other sport where the undisputed greatest to ever play has a 20% win percentage. That's how crazy difficult professional golf is.
Literally had every shot, he could hit shots that only he could pull off. Tiger in his prime is one of the most dominant athletes in any sport ever, he was unbelievable
@@Dan-zq5wt I’ll never completely write him off until he officially retires, he is Tiger Woods after all. Maybe he’s still got a little magic left in him.
A stat that blows my mind is that Scotty Scheffler (current world #1 golfer) would have to remain at world number one for the next 11 years to catch Tiger’s time spent at #1
@@riverhound9649wrong with the PGA tour, all signature events with 20 million dollar purses are limited field events between 68 and 80 golfers and NO CUT
I watched him when he first turned pro in 96 @ the Australian Open. Took a six hour bus ride to go see him, then woke up at 4:30 to be first through the gates to watch him practice on the range @ around 7am. Him in person, the sound off the irons was like a shot gun. There were holes where he was easily 40 past the rest of the field. I was right next to him when he absolutely smoked a 2 iron over the top of the other 2 pros driver. Ball just kept floating until it was about 20 past when it landed. Everyone knew he was the real deal. We followed him for the weekend then followed Greg Norman as he finished. Was lucky that Fluff Cowan, his caddy at the time gave me a Titleist Professional 90 number 2. Still got it at home. Tiger dominated golf like no one has ever done before. He could hit shots from anywhere. The more you doubted him, the more he proved you wrong. He could execute the shot that was needed when he needed it most. His fierce determination on winning is what made him win when others couldn’t. His belief and highlight reel of shots will never be topped
My dad took me to see him play in person a couple times in the late 90s/early 2000s. And you are absolutely right about the sound of his irons! Driver, too… It was like a sonic boom… Immediately followed by the loudest crowd roar I’ve ever heard outside of the Chiefs arrowhead Stadium. So fking cool.
People feared Tiger. That was his biggest strength. He owned everyone’s mindset. Once all the craziness happened with the downward spiral, people don’t fear him anymore.
They thought that until he came back and dominated in early 2010's and won 1st fed ex cup......then more surgery , back fusion. JT said in an interview on the Golf Channel with Duval and Chamblee he wants to face Tiger at his best and blah blah. I think he'd recently just won '17 PGA, said we all do. Duval simply said, "No you don't, trust me you have no idea" he then won the Masters. I dont mind watching golf right now, scotty killing it, but plenty of very good players but there isn't one guy that could hold a candle to what he could do, not even close. Facts, phil is the closest, 9 less majors 35 less tournaments 50 including worldwide, vijay had a great year with 9 Ws. Obtw Tiger was in his first swing change, duval...maybe 1 and 1/2 YRS, Ernie...eh and Phil. It probably is the most dominant era of all sport...'99-'08. I live the 70s-80s guys, Watson is my favorite for ever but jack didn't play against these guys. Maybe top 10 then was better but 10-125 is nowhere near, 125 can win and does. #125 didn't win in Jack's day. Also he was a tweener, caught player and arnie when he was 10 years younger, got Watson and Seve at 10 Yrs older but in prime.
He was forced. Not in a bad way, like in a samari way where he was just destined for greatness. There was going to be no other path, it was just going to be golf
His father trained him to be a killer on the golf course, using military psyops training. That it so bad and his dad, had it worked out from day one. When he played in his first professional tournament as an amateur, he was swearing constantly, during in his rounds, while his father caddied for him and his father would drop him off at the golf course and then went off and had an affair! Seeing any kind of pattern here??
Tiger did something no other golfer has ever done other than his professional accomplishments. He won three straight US Jr Amateur’s and three straight US Amateur’s. Six years in a row undefeated as an amateur.
It’s not even that, it’s the fact that Scottie Scheffler has been ranked #1 for like 75 total weeks. To catch Tiger's record of total weeks at #1... ...Scheffler would need to hold the top spot, CONTINOUSLY, until October 21, 2035.
If a 2 year old showcased the hand eye coordination to hit a ball off a tee, then as the father it’s your duty to nurture that ability. That’s incredibly rare. I don’t blame Richard Williams, Jeffery Jordan, or Tiger Woods dad for how they raised their kids. They turned them into something great. Those roads are never easy.
As a guy who worked in the golf industry and is a huge nerd, I really really want tiger in this podcast. Joe has no idea the extent of crazy that Tiger is. Tiger is Kobe. The two craziest competitors I’ve witnessed in my 35 years. Crazier than Jordan. And I’m not Fn around, Kobe and tiger took what Jordan did and went even harder. Brady is possibly in this category as well. Pure Psychopaths
Yo Jo, just get Tiger Woods on your show man!!! It will be 1 epic and long show because Tiger is 1 of the greatest ATHLETES EVER. And you will be stunned at his mental toughness. He is simply incredible.
Tigers’ course management and mental game was so far beyond his time and even beyond today’s time that it allowed the skill he had to come out more commonly than other competitors. The skill level is very similar but how you handle pressure is what determines how much of that skill comes out in competition. A word of advice to any extremely competitive golfers out there; meditate every day, give 110% effort to every shot and play conservatively on your approach shots
Jaimie puts a video up of Tiger making an ace on 16 at the WM, Joe: eh Jaimie then shows a modern day video of 16 at the WM. Joe: would ya look at it?? Jaimie (as Pam on the office): they're the same picture 😅
Glad I didn't have to be the one to type that comment... Any golf fan was looking at that moment like, um that's the same exact hole, just like 20 years apart lol
@@stuartstogdill2406 sure, but the atmosphere has always been the same. drinking, yelling, just not following the normal etiquette of golf. it's just on a larger more grand scale now...
I used to hate golf. Come home late on Sunday to watch the sports review on the news. And we after we would hear about something he accomplished on the golf course like another major or just another tournament. So one day I decided to actually watch him play. And there was just something about watching him dominate the tournament. It was so majestic. I never once watched a golf tournament yet I was a glue to watching him play throughout the day. I watch golf more than any other sport when he plays.
@@newnoggin2 I think a lot of people just don't know that. His knee and back injuries are largely self inflicted from things other than golf, which is a shame. Apparently, he got obsessed with Navy Seal style training. His dad was a Green Beret, so that type of mindset was obviously passed down to him. I'm sure he thought it would make him "tougher", but I think it only succeeded in screwing up his body. If he hadn't gotten sidetracked with that stuff and of course his 2010 "domestic issues", he would have won 100 tournaments and over 20 majors without breaking a sweat. He's the best of all time, better than Nicklaus, I don't care if Nickalus has 3 more majors.
They did a study and when Tiger entered an event, the other players shot a stroke worse than what they averaged on the same courses without him. He wasn’t only dominant, he affected his opponents because they had to be perfect to beat him and they still might not.
I saw a stat recently - and I could be wrong but the sentiment is true - in one year, Tiger shot a combined 125-under in tournaments. The next best score was something like 125-over for the year.
Yeah the stat is that his combined score under par in majors from 1997-2013 was -126 and the closest person to him was +125 so he was 251 strokes better than the next person. It makes it more impressive because anyone can be hot for 1 year but to be locked in like that over a 17 year stretch is ridiculous🤯
What most people don’t understand is how incredibly difficult golf is to do at a high level for so long is amazing, it’s has to be one of the most challenging activities to do well nothing comes close
I would say he was guided. There becomes a point where it doesn’t matter how much your father makes you golf if you don’t have that love and passion for it you would never make it to that elite level. You truly have to desire it and love the process of achieving that level
Casual fans just can't grasp his putting gift, it's unheard of for a ballstriker like Tiger to also be the best putter in the game. It will never happen again
@@poocrayon4588even if Jack is the goat he was never BOTH the best ball striker and putter at the same time. It will never ever happen again on any tour
@@Kevin-qy9wf During the 70's he was the best long driver, long iron player and best putter. Watch some winning tounaments, you'll see. Tiger is great too, perhaps golfs most mecurial talent ever (at least since the TV era) had he won more Majors he would be the goat - but as he didn't and as they're both so great, that makes Jack the best (especially as it was Tigers goal to pass him).
@@poocrayon4588 not sure what you’re trying to argue, my point is unequivocally true that nobody will ever lead the tour in ball-striking and putting the way Tiger did. Nothing to do with total majors
I could be wrong, but I believe Tiger brought Physical Conditioning development into the forefront in the sport. I remember how his body changed from a teen to a physically defined athlete. This led to increased distance to his game, this added to his natural ability to shape shots and be consistently accurate made him the GOAT on his era. Thanks to his conditioning he has been able to continue playing even after his vehicle accident. Even today, when you compare the numbers to great players of the current era like Scottie Scheffler, Rory, Brooks, Hovland, and so many others, you realize what an amazing player Tiger Woods was.
Tiger hitting a ball in the early 2000's sounded like a car accident. It was incredible. One of my favourite things it looking through Tiger stats, like the # of weeks at world #1. 281 weeks consecutive... 5.5 years at #1, and 683 weeks total... thats just over 13 years ranked #1 in a highly competetive individual sport. It doesn't even seem real.
Golf is such a mental gauntlet even when you play alone, and when you add people to the mix it just multiplies. Even just a few people standing around the first tee can be stressful for the average golfer. Tiger’s ability to mentally lock it in when he gets on the course is why he holds so many ridiculous records that will probably never be broken. 🐐
It’s funny that Jamie pulled up a video of tiger hitting a hole in one on hole 16 at the Waste Management when Joe was asking for that exact thing (albeit years later when the stadium was built$
People always talk about how far etc he would hit the ball. It's his short game that is pretty legendary! I don't ever remember him missing a clutch putt when he had to make it.
Tiger did not mess up his body playing golf, he messed up his body doing mock Navy Seal training. He would have crushed all the records if that didn't happen.
Check out how Pete marraviches dad started him playing basketball, it's wild, he played basketball a little every day like he was having the most fun in the world and wouldn't allow Pete to touch the ball or play so he would sneak in some playing
Tiger's back issues, while his swing have a lot to do with it, he was playing weekend solider with the Navy Seals in San Diego back in the mid 2000s. The log hauling fucked his back up.
I don't care what anyone says about major championship counts, Tiger Woods is the greatest golfer in history. Jack was a greater golfer than everyone in his time... by a small margin. Tiger was playing an entirely different game in his prime, and even not in his prime, he still won a U.S. Open on a completely busted knee through five rounds. Then he came back and won another major after a dozen surgeries and injuries, plus a playoff title. At his best, Tiger was the most talented and dominant golfer ever. As a heavily injured and carved up player, he still won multiple majors and other tournaments. Golf is the hardest game ever devised, and Tiger at his peak destroyed the best players in the game as a regular habit. He dominated at every venue, every setting of golf, from harsh U.S. Opens, sun-dried British Opens, record-setting Masters performances, and a slew of records in between. He is the most clutch putter to ever live. He had a magician's short game, an assassin's iron play, and, on his good days, elite driving. He was the best at nearly everything every day... for years.
It's well documented that Tiger gravitated to golf by watching his dad who would take him to the course (and his dad is rumored to have had affairs at the golf course - so not dad of the year for sure). As a young child, all Tiger wanted to do was play golf, but as he moved into his teens, there were times he wanted to just be a kid. By this stage in his development, so much had been invested, and he was winning big amateur events, that he likely also felt pressured to please his father (and mother). The question I suppose is did he devote so much of his time to golf for himself or for his family - a bit of both perhaps.
"to get that good at anything is so rare" ESPECIALYL IN GOLF. A single player sport that is so technical that if you're off by a fraction of an angle on your club. You could be in so much trouble. The focus, the pressure, the composure you need.
Think of it like this. He has a streak of 281 weeks at #1 in the world with 683 weeks at #1 total. Out of all the stats Tiger has, I don't think anyone will EVER beat that. Insane stat. Number #2 on that list has half that. #3 has half of #2. The greatest golfer to ever live.
In terms of difficulty, golf is right up there. So many elements are out of your control. Its not like Tennis where the No1 player on most tournaments will mostly breeze through the early rounds, in a vastly more controlled environment. Holding all 4 major championships at the same time in modern golf, is something that I would bet money on will never happen again. Thats how hard it is. and thats how good Tiger was at his peak.
As with most prodigies, they surely sacrifice their childhood for their craft, but because of their age, they don't truly understand why, they didn't really have a choice in the matter.. but tiger has done a great job with his son Charlie by letting HIM choose what he wants to do and he supports Charlie's decision 1000%
Bruhhh…. You just told the world a subjective approach to what your night should look like. Cmon bruddah no mention of that. I love that the ego rules you
There are some misnomers here. Tiger has always said that he was the one that wanted to golf. He has constantly shut down any allegations of his dad pushing golf on him. Tiger did make a decision at a fairly young age that he wanted to be the best and his dad helped him be accountable as far as understanding the magnitude of work that it would take. He never forced tiger to do that work against his will.
trying to find the dad interview he did in the 90s. he had tiger in a high chair watching him hit balls in their garage. much more to the story but tiger switched his grip on his own when his dad gave him the club as a toddler. dad said he knew right away he had something good in tiger lol.
Tiger is an artist and Scotty scheffler is a robot. Both no.1 in the world in their time but totally different ways of doing it. Tiger would save par from anywhere and Scotty will only miss one shot a round at the most. It’s insane what tiger was able to do without the consistency off the tee
Phil Mickelson was one of the greatest players of all time. Would have been the number one player in many other Eras. Hes an afterthought thats how good Tiger was.
Tiger actually became obsessed with lifting weights and navy seal training. Golf is more about extreme flexibility than growing big muscles. He ruined his body by becoming too strong and then expecting tight huge muscles to still be able to flex for the golf swing. If you watch any golfers exercise routine now it's more about flexibility and using your body weight. Not bench pressing 450 pounds and squatting 750 pounds.
Didn't Bryson take that approach and become one of the fastest players in the world and shoot 58 a couple weeks ago? Seems like heavy weights still work...
@@bornontilt748 Nope, he did an interview recently saying that was a dumb experiment. He injured himself lifting too much weight. He has lost about 40 pounds and when he did that and worked on flexibility is when he game came back and shot 58. If you notice since his win at the US open he didn't win anything else cause that's when he started bulking and hitting the weights like crazy.
@@Micker375 Yes you are right. Absolutely the best golfer ever. If he didn't have all his injuries though he could have dominated for many years more and beat Jack's record. He hasn't been healthy since 2008 when his knee went bad and then needed his back fused. His body was done by the age of 32 because of his workout routine.
Agree like Trevino once said did you ever see a fat player have back problems
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Speaking of rowdy crowds and cutting off the alcohol, I was watching the WM tournament and during the coverage you could hear the crowd in the distance chanting FJB, FJB FJB!!! It was awesome...i was really surprised the network didn't catch it and dub it out
There are rumors or indications that Tiger and Michael Jackson had the same level of push from their dad. While I have never heard anywhere that Earl would get physical or demean Tiger, the level of pacing or pro-activeness in getting him better and ready for the world stage was about the same albeit they went about it differently, but similarly they both focused on making their child into the best and biggest star in their field. And they did... so too with Mozart. His dad also did everything he could to facilitate Wolfgang becoming arguably the greatest composer ever. Mozart might have had genius level intellect which would help, but composing full music at age 5 takes a crazy amount of practice, education and training and Mozart had that through his dad and others... So there are similarities between them! Chief among them being that they all rose unparalleled to the very pinnacle of their chosen profession!!
In his prime 2000-05 Tiger almost always came through with the pressure shot or putt. Lots of good pro golfers were maybe 40% successful with a pressure shot. In his prime he had something like 35% winning percentage. Crazy, will never be done again.
I think tiger on Joe Rogan would break the internet.
It would be a 10 min podcast with joe. Not a joetopic
There are things about this video I don’t like.
Watch his two part documentary. Have him on the pod cast Joe. This kid was not forced to do this. This kid was obsessed with it. Pure nonsense. It was later in life when he wanted to go have fun and get some pussy. That’s when the parents turned….strict.
Fuck yes!!! Can someone tell Jamie and Joe the tiger woods hole in one was actually 16 at the waste management before the stadium
I’d rather see Tiger on Club Shay Shay.
@@bobbowie9350I reckon they’d have a lot to talk about , it’s tiger woods for gods sake, joe literally says how he finds hitting a golf ball and technique behind it is fascinating , or did you not watch the clip ?
At one point Tiger woods with a golf club in his hand was better than anyone was at anything.
You can't really argue that. Late 90s/ early 2000's Tiger was unstoppable. If he could have kept playing without the drama and injuries, he would've beaten all of Jack Nicholas's records. We really never got to see what exactly he was capable of.
@@jsee2385you can absolutely argue it. Tiger was more dominant than jack in their peaks
@@reggiesbush9699Quite positive that’s exactly what jsee just said? You can’t argue that he wasn’t better than anyone was at anything, because he was simply the best.
Tiger was as dominant in golf as anyone has ever been at a sport. But even Tiger only finished top 10 in 199 of 374 career events and won 82 times. Name any other sport where the undisputed greatest to ever play has a 20% win percentage. That's how crazy difficult professional golf is.
@@zaycomage6888 my bad I misunderstood you tbh
It’s not just his power - lots of guys have that - it’s his pinpoint iron accuracy, creativity, touch, short game etc. Tiger had it all
Literally had every shot, he could hit shots that only he could pull off. Tiger in his prime is one of the most dominant athletes in any sport ever, he was unbelievable
@@Whatdoyouwant904 we still all hope he can come back, but clearly it’s over.
@@Dan-zq5wt I’ll never completely write him off until he officially retires, he is Tiger Woods after all. Maybe he’s still got a little magic left in him.
@@Whatdoyouwant904 I hope so!
Up and down from literally everywhere
A stat that blows my mind is that Scotty Scheffler (current world #1 golfer) would have to remain at world number one for the next 11 years to catch Tiger’s time spent at #1
Another crazy stat is the #1 for consecutive weeks. Longest streak 280 weeks second longest 240 weeks third longest
Another crazy stat, he missed 3 putts of 3 ft or less from 04-06… 3 out of 1400 plus putts. 🔥🔥👀
I don't think tiger would have won as much with the competition he would face with todays golfers
@@beararmshunt7498 no way you’re serious, the number 1 player right now misses putts like no other. (Scottie)
Tiger would destroy this kids. lol
@@beararmshunt7498 probably true but you also don’t get todays level of golfers without Tiger raising the bar and making golf bigger than ever
Tigers cuts made record will never be broken
Gonna be pretty hard when half the events don't have cuts anymore
@@state1724 with LIV you mean
@@riverhound9649wrong with the PGA tour, all signature events with 20 million dollar purses are limited field events between 68 and 80 golfers and NO CUT
@@anthonyr3800 damn I didn't know
@@anthonyr3800lol that’s only for senior cuts u know nothing about golf.
I watched him when he first turned pro in 96 @ the Australian Open. Took a six hour bus ride to go see him, then woke up at 4:30 to be first through the gates to watch him practice on the range @ around 7am. Him in person, the sound off the irons was like a shot gun. There were holes where he was easily 40 past the rest of the field. I was right next to him when he absolutely smoked a 2 iron over the top of the other 2 pros driver. Ball just kept floating until it was about 20 past when it landed. Everyone knew he was the real deal. We followed him for the weekend then followed Greg Norman as he finished. Was lucky that Fluff Cowan, his caddy at the time gave me a Titleist Professional 90 number 2. Still got it at home. Tiger dominated golf like no one has ever done before. He could hit shots from anywhere. The more you doubted him, the more he proved you wrong. He could execute the shot that was needed when he needed it most. His fierce determination on winning is what made him win when others couldn’t. His belief and highlight reel of shots will never be topped
My dad took me to see him play in person a couple times in the late 90s/early 2000s. And you are absolutely right about the sound of his irons! Driver, too… It was like a sonic boom… Immediately followed by the loudest crowd roar I’ve ever heard outside of the Chiefs arrowhead Stadium. So fking cool.
Awesome!
Yup. Saw him at the PGA championship in like 2010 and will never forget it. Nobody hits the ball like prime tiger
People feared Tiger. That was his biggest strength. He owned everyone’s mindset. Once all the craziness happened with the downward spiral, people don’t fear him anymore.
What about the 2019 masters win?
You’re a fool😂❤ golf 2024 hasn’t caught up with tiger woods !
They thought that until he came back and dominated in early 2010's and won 1st fed ex cup......then more surgery , back fusion. JT said in an interview on the Golf Channel with Duval and Chamblee he wants to face Tiger at his best and blah blah. I think he'd recently just won '17 PGA, said we all do. Duval simply said, "No you don't, trust me you have no idea" he then won the Masters. I dont mind watching golf right now, scotty killing it, but plenty of very good players but there isn't one guy that could hold a candle to what he could do, not even close. Facts, phil is the closest, 9 less majors 35 less tournaments 50 including worldwide, vijay had a great year with 9 Ws. Obtw Tiger was in his first swing change, duval...maybe 1 and 1/2 YRS, Ernie...eh and Phil. It probably is the most dominant era of all sport...'99-'08. I live the 70s-80s guys, Watson is my favorite for ever but jack didn't play against these guys. Maybe top 10 then was better but 10-125 is nowhere near, 125 can win and does. #125 didn't win in Jack's day. Also he was a tweener, caught player and arnie when he was 10 years younger, got Watson and Seve at 10
Yrs older but in prime.
@@micahwood1999 He only won because the eye talian guy crapped the bed
I love how they are talking about the WM and the first video of Tiger's hole-in-one is on 16 of the WM.
And i dont think they realized it
Isnt that hole in one his first year pro too
Tiger gave Golf some much needed swag.
Golf already had swag you couldn’t see it!🫢 shark, walrus, 🐻, etc
No way was Tiger forced. The addiction to that game is real, I started chasing it at 12 and I’m still loving it at 56.
He was forced. Not in a bad way, like in a samari way where he was just destined for greatness. There was going to be no other path, it was just going to be golf
Bro, 3 year olds aren’t addicted to golf. He was absolutely forced by his dad, but I suppose it all worked out in the end.
His father trained him to be a killer on the golf course, using military psyops training. That it so bad and his dad, had it worked out from day one. When he played in his first professional tournament as an amateur, he was swearing constantly, during in his rounds, while his father caddied for him and his father would drop him off at the golf course and then went off and had an affair! Seeing any kind of pattern here??
@golfinguru11 Little boys want to do what their Dad is doing. He chose the game. He was not forced.
Watch the documentary and you'll see how it happened
Petition to have tiger woods on the podcast
Tiger did something no other golfer has ever done other than his professional accomplishments. He won three straight US Jr Amateur’s and three straight US Amateur’s. Six years in a row undefeated as an amateur.
It’s not even that, it’s the fact that Scottie Scheffler has been ranked #1 for like 75 total weeks.
To catch Tiger's record of total weeks at #1...
...Scheffler would need to hold the top spot, CONTINOUSLY, until October 21, 2035.
And he shagged his way round the world
It was a gift to be alive at the same time as Tigers dominance.
If a 2 year old showcased the hand eye coordination to hit a ball off a tee, then as the father it’s your duty to nurture that ability. That’s incredibly rare. I don’t blame Richard Williams, Jeffery Jordan, or Tiger Woods dad for how they raised their kids. They turned them into something great. Those roads are never easy.
wish my dad pushed me harder when I was younger,he got me into golf at 18 months old
Tiger wanted to swing those, clubs. He loved playing with his dad as a child, he's said it hundreds of times.
@@zxclify silly it’s not a push it’s a natural unnatural ability unlike waking or taking 🤣🤔🫢🥰
I love how much Young Jamie loves the game. He can really play too.
They should've showed Tiger doing the long drive vs John Daly.
WHY? TIGERS WON 82 AND 15 COMPARED TO DALYS HOW MANY?
He means to display the power of Tigers swing on the podcast. Not to compare Tiger & Johns achievements..@@AlastairBarker
Finally they recognise how hard it is to do what he has done.
As a guy who worked in the golf industry and is a huge nerd, I really really want tiger in this podcast.
Joe has no idea the extent of crazy that Tiger is. Tiger is Kobe. The two craziest competitors I’ve witnessed in my 35 years. Crazier than Jordan. And I’m not Fn around, Kobe and tiger took what Jordan did and went even harder. Brady is possibly in this category as well. Pure Psychopaths
Both of them paid for it with their bodies too.
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I want Joe to pick up golf, and then have him on.
hes too jacked for golf@tubopedia
There is no such thing as too jacked for amateur golf@@zxclify . If you can benchpress and squat you can play golf with your friends.
Arguably one of the few humans in history who was better at his thing more than anyone else was good at anything lol
Yo Jo, just get Tiger Woods on your show man!!! It will be 1 epic and long show because Tiger is 1 of the greatest ATHLETES EVER. And you will be stunned at his mental toughness. He is simply incredible.
Tigers’ course management and mental game was so far beyond his time and even beyond today’s time that it allowed the skill he had to come out more commonly than other competitors. The skill level is very similar but how you handle pressure is what determines how much of that skill comes out in competition. A word of advice to any extremely competitive golfers out there; meditate every day, give 110% effort to every shot and play conservatively on your approach shots
Id have better course management if I could hit it wherever I wanted 😄
The stat that he won more majors in one year than the amount of people that beat him in all the tournaments he played that year, is fucking insane.
I remember a betting line where Tiger was an even money bet against the field at a Major! That's how good Tiger was!
❤💯
During the height of his career, most bets placed were Tiger or the field in every event he played.
Jaimie puts a video up of Tiger making an ace on 16 at the WM, Joe: eh
Jaimie then shows a modern day video of 16 at the WM. Joe: would ya look at it??
Jaimie (as Pam on the office): they're the same picture 😅
Glad I didn't have to be the one to type that comment... Any golf fan was looking at that moment like, um that's the same exact hole, just like 20 years apart lol
They currently have far more seats and larger grandstands at the WM than when Tiger hit that ace.
@@stuartstogdill2406 sure, but the atmosphere has always been the same. drinking, yelling, just not following the normal etiquette of golf. it's just on a larger more grand scale now...
I used to hate golf. Come home late on Sunday to watch the sports review on the news. And we after we would hear about something he accomplished on the golf course like another major or just another tournament. So one day I decided to actually watch him play. And there was just something about watching him dominate the tournament. It was so majestic. I never once watched a golf tournament yet I was a glue to watching him play throughout the day. I watch golf more than any other sport when he plays.
Tiger didn’t mess up his body because of torque he messed up his body because he did navy seal training and ran like 20 miles a day.
Great point! People forget that.
Probably a combination
Partly
His shitty swing did a lot
@@newnoggin2 I think a lot of people just don't know that. His knee and back injuries are largely self inflicted from things other than golf, which is a shame. Apparently, he got obsessed with Navy Seal style training. His dad was a Green Beret, so that type of mindset was obviously passed down to him. I'm sure he thought it would make him "tougher", but I think it only succeeded in screwing up his body. If he hadn't gotten sidetracked with that stuff and of course his 2010 "domestic issues", he would have won 100 tournaments and over 20 majors without breaking a sweat. He's the best of all time, better than Nicklaus, I don't care if Nickalus has 3 more majors.
This is why I love JR. His animation trying to explained something lol.
Joe you gotta watch the one where he outdrives a guy on his knees
They did a study and when Tiger entered an event, the other players shot a stroke worse than what they averaged on the same courses without him. He wasn’t only dominant, he affected his opponents because they had to be perfect to beat him and they still might not.
I don’t typically say this in sports as I know anything is possible but I don’t think golf will ever see anything like him again.
Ronnie O'Sullivan. The greatest snooker player of all time. He's still winning tournaments after 30 years of competing
And? What does that have to do with Tiger?
I saw a stat recently - and I could be wrong but the sentiment is true - in one year, Tiger shot a combined 125-under in tournaments. The next best score was something like 125-over for the year.
Yeah the stat is that his combined score under par in majors from 1997-2013 was -126 and the closest person to him was +125 so he was 251 strokes better than the next person. It makes it more impressive because anyone can be hot for 1 year but to be locked in like that over a 17 year stretch is ridiculous🤯
@@garydepena2332 Thanks very much for that! I couldn’t find that anywhere after hearing it. Brilliant stuff. It is a mind boggling stat.
What most people don’t understand is how incredibly difficult golf is to do at a high level for so long is amazing, it’s has to be one of the most challenging activities to do well nothing comes close
I highly recommend the HBO 2 part show on Tiger. It's excellent!!!
Still waiting for Jamie to show Joe a swing of Tiger hitting a big drive.
While sitting on a grizzly bear
I would say he was guided. There becomes a point where it doesn’t matter how much your father makes you golf if you don’t have that love and passion for it you would never make it to that elite level. You truly have to desire it and love the process of achieving that level
Johnnie Miller said it the first time he saw Tiger swing... he said his back isn't going to last with such a violent swing
Casual fans just can't grasp his putting gift, it's unheard of for a ballstriker like Tiger to also be the best putter in the game. It will never happen again
Yeah except Nicklaus was the best Putter and one of the best long ball hitters of his day as well so actually it's not.
@@poocrayon4588even if Jack is the goat he was never BOTH the best ball striker and putter at the same time. It will never ever happen again on any tour
@@Kevin-qy9wf During the 70's he was the best long driver, long iron player and best putter. Watch some winning tounaments, you'll see. Tiger is great too, perhaps golfs most mecurial talent ever (at least since the TV era) had he won more Majors he would be the goat - but as he didn't and as they're both so great, that makes Jack the best (especially as it was Tigers goal to pass him).
@@poocrayon4588 not sure what you’re trying to argue, my point is unequivocally true that nobody will ever lead the tour in ball-striking and putting the way Tiger did. Nothing to do with total majors
Tiger woods had a very violent swing, it's just one of those things.
Golf is hard as hell, thats why you see people slamming their clubs all the time 😂😂
I could be wrong, but I believe Tiger brought Physical Conditioning development into the forefront in the sport. I remember how his body changed from a teen to a physically defined athlete. This led to increased distance to his game, this added to his natural ability to shape shots and be consistently accurate made him the GOAT on his era. Thanks to his conditioning he has been able to continue playing even after his vehicle accident.
Even today, when you compare the numbers to great players of the current era like Scottie Scheffler, Rory, Brooks, Hovland, and so many others, you realize what an amazing player Tiger Woods was.
Another good example of repetitive torque is MLB pitchers. Throwing the ball as hard as you can 100+ times an outing. Insane.
Tiger hitting a ball in the early 2000's sounded like a car accident. It was incredible. One of my favourite things it looking through Tiger stats, like the # of weeks at world #1. 281 weeks consecutive... 5.5 years at #1, and 683 weeks total... thats just over 13 years ranked #1 in a highly competetive individual sport. It doesn't even seem real.
Tiger had a swing that definitely effected his back.
Golf is such a mental gauntlet even when you play alone, and when you add people to the mix it just multiplies. Even just a few people standing around the first tee can be stressful for the average golfer. Tiger’s ability to mentally lock it in when he gets on the course is why he holds so many ridiculous records that will probably never be broken. 🐐
I like how people don’t think golfers get chirped
It’s funny that Jamie pulled up a video of tiger hitting a hole in one on hole 16 at the Waste Management when Joe was asking for that exact thing (albeit years later when the stadium was built$
People always talk about how far etc he would hit the ball. It's his short game that is pretty legendary! I don't ever remember him missing a clutch putt when he had to make it.
Tiger did not mess up his body playing golf, he messed up his body doing mock Navy Seal training. He would have crushed all the records if that didn't happen.
Check out how Pete marraviches dad started him playing basketball, it's wild, he played basketball a little every day like he was having the most fun in the world and wouldn't allow Pete to touch the ball or play so he would sneak in some playing
Tiger was getting jacked for the 🐱 not the ⛳️ different holes. 😂
If he didn't get caught with everything...wouldve easily won more Majors.
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@@benlopez9595but he did so he blew it
Someone in the podcast said it's Augusta where people are following Tiger down the fairway. It was not Augusta lol
East Lake - Atlanta. Tour Championship.
He also said “This is the last time he won a big event or something” lol. Then goes on to win the Masters a few months later.
Sam talking out of his ass, Tiger wanted it.
It’s been over 15 years since prime Tiger and I’m still convinced we may never see anything like it or if we do we still have many years.
Tiger's back issues, while his swing have a lot to do with it, he was playing weekend solider with the Navy Seals in San Diego back in the mid 2000s. The log hauling fucked his back up.
Joe: "Jamie. Pull up the video of Tiger hitting a bear"
I don't care what anyone says about major championship counts, Tiger Woods is the greatest golfer in history. Jack was a greater golfer than everyone in his time... by a small margin. Tiger was playing an entirely different game in his prime, and even not in his prime, he still won a U.S. Open on a completely busted knee through five rounds. Then he came back and won another major after a dozen surgeries and injuries, plus a playoff title. At his best, Tiger was the most talented and dominant golfer ever. As a heavily injured and carved up player, he still won multiple majors and other tournaments.
Golf is the hardest game ever devised, and Tiger at his peak destroyed the best players in the game as a regular habit. He dominated at every venue, every setting of golf, from harsh U.S. Opens, sun-dried British Opens, record-setting Masters performances, and a slew of records in between. He is the most clutch putter to ever live. He had a magician's short game, an assassin's iron play, and, on his good days, elite driving. He was the best at nearly everything every day... for years.
Tiger can still out drive most guys on Tour... the fact that his son can out drive him is truly crazy.
Tiger Woods dominance is hard to explain, he has records that cannot be broken. His dominance in every aspect of the game was crazy.
Nicklaus has the most important record and the one Woods wanted most. And he'll never break it.
It's well documented that Tiger gravitated to golf by watching his dad who would take him to the course (and his dad is rumored to have had affairs at the golf course - so not dad of the year for sure). As a young child, all Tiger wanted to do was play golf, but as he moved into his teens, there were times he wanted to just be a kid. By this stage in his development, so much had been invested, and he was winning big amateur events, that he likely also felt pressured to please his father (and mother). The question I suppose is did he devote so much of his time to golf for himself or for his family - a bit of both perhaps.
They say when he was playing. They were playing for second. Once he gets the lead. It’s over.
I hope that tournament that they stopped selling alcohol wasn't the Phoenix Open lol.
Charlie is not out driving Tiger. He did ONE time.
"to get that good at anything is so rare" ESPECIALYL IN GOLF. A single player sport that is so technical that if you're off by a fraction of an angle on your club. You could be in so much trouble. The focus, the pressure, the composure you need.
Comments from his opponents and people who don't play golf ⛳ are so different. Hate and love
He putted lights out
He's like the Michael Jackson of golf. I'd say they both ended up expressing their issues in substantially different ways though.
Think of it like this. He has a streak of 281 weeks at #1 in the world with 683 weeks at #1 total. Out of all the stats Tiger has, I don't think anyone will EVER beat that. Insane stat. Number #2 on that list has half that. #3 has half of #2. The greatest golfer to ever live.
Tiger’s the top athlete of all time in any field and his dominance was something insurmountable to anything else, that’s a fact!
How has Tiger NOT been on the Joe Rogan show??
I wish my dad made me practice my golf swing when I was 2
In terms of difficulty, golf is right up there. So many elements are out of your control. Its not like Tennis where the No1 player on most tournaments will mostly breeze through the early rounds, in a vastly more controlled environment. Holding all 4 major championships at the same time in modern golf, is something that I would bet money on will never happen again. Thats how hard it is. and thats how good Tiger was at his peak.
As a lifelong tennis player who has heard soooo many people shit on tennis players as athletes, I’m glad he gave us some flowers
Possibly the greatest athlete of all time
A hour interview with tiger would net you another million subscribers easy!
Jamie, bring up that clip of Tiger out driving a grizzly bear
Plz have Tiger on your show
When the brutality of the training is matched with the desire of the trained underpinned with actual talent, you get a Tiger Woods.
As with most prodigies, they surely sacrifice their childhood for their craft, but because of their age, they don't truly understand why, they didn't really have a choice in the matter.. but tiger has done a great job with his son Charlie by letting HIM choose what he wants to do and he supports Charlie's decision 1000%
You’d think the fact that tiger would win by huge margins in some of the biggest tournaments would’ve come up
Joe would be good to talk to big jhon.
He gravitate towards golf
Bruhhh…. You just told the world a subjective approach to what your night should look like. Cmon bruddah no mention of that. I love that the ego rules you
There are some misnomers here. Tiger has always said that he was the one that wanted to golf. He has constantly shut down any allegations of his dad pushing golf on him. Tiger did make a decision at a fairly young age that he wanted to be the best and his dad helped him be accountable as far as understanding the magnitude of work that it would take. He never forced tiger to do that work against his will.
Jamie pull up the video of that Bear and Tiger Woods playing a 2 man scramble.
trying to find the dad interview he did in the 90s. he had tiger in a high chair watching him hit balls in their garage. much more to the story but tiger switched his grip on his own when his dad gave him the club as a toddler. dad said he knew right away he had something good in tiger lol.
Tiger is an artist and Scotty scheffler is a robot. Both no.1 in the world in their time but totally different ways of doing it. Tiger would save par from anywhere and Scotty will only miss one shot a round at the most. It’s insane what tiger was able to do without the consistency off the tee
Scotty is not a robot... not even remotely true.
Phil Mickelson was one of the greatest players of all time. Would have been the number one player in many other Eras. Hes an afterthought thats how good Tiger was.
Gold is such a hard sport
Tiger actually became obsessed with lifting weights and navy seal training. Golf is more about extreme flexibility than growing big muscles. He ruined his body by becoming too strong and then expecting tight huge muscles to still be able to flex for the golf swing. If you watch any golfers exercise routine now it's more about flexibility and using your body weight. Not bench pressing 450 pounds and squatting 750 pounds.
Didn't Bryson take that approach and become one of the fastest players in the world and shoot 58 a couple weeks ago? Seems like heavy weights still work...
@@bornontilt748 Nope, he did an interview recently saying that was a dumb experiment. He injured himself lifting too much weight. He has lost about 40 pounds and when he did that and worked on flexibility is when he game came back and shot 58. If you notice since his win at the US open he didn't win anything else cause that's when he started bulking and hitting the weights like crazy.
The dude won 15 majors… and has played the best golf ever. Can’t say he did it wrong.
@@Micker375 Yes you are right. Absolutely the best golfer ever. If he didn't have all his injuries though he could have dominated for many years more and beat Jack's record. He hasn't been healthy since 2008 when his knee went bad and then needed his back fused. His body was done by the age of 32 because of his workout routine.
Agree like Trevino once said did you ever see a fat player have back problems
Speaking of rowdy crowds and cutting off the alcohol, I was watching the WM tournament and during the coverage you could hear the crowd in the distance chanting FJB, FJB FJB!!!
It was awesome...i was really surprised the network didn't catch it and dub it out
Ricky Carmichael was another athlete on a whole other level. 15 AMA championships.
Tiger needs to be on Rogan!
Tiger woods was the Mike tyson MJ 23 of Golf 😅 that dude us a crazy competition
He’s the best of alll time
There are rumors or indications that Tiger and Michael Jackson had the same level of push from their dad. While I have never heard anywhere that Earl would get physical or demean Tiger, the level of pacing or pro-activeness in getting him better and ready for the world stage was about the same albeit they went about it differently, but similarly they both focused on making their child into the best and biggest star in their field. And they did... so too with Mozart. His dad also did everything he could to facilitate Wolfgang becoming arguably the greatest composer ever. Mozart might have had genius level intellect which would help, but composing full music at age 5 takes a crazy amount of practice, education and training and Mozart had that through his dad and others... So there are similarities between them! Chief among them being that they all rose unparalleled to the very pinnacle of their chosen profession!!
Tiger Woods was the #1 golfer for 13 years consecutively. Don't think that's going to ever be beaten
I think Joe should have tiger on his pod cast for sure
Tiger’s peak was higher than any other golfers peak in history. Maybe his peak wasn’t as long as Jack, but his peak was higher.
In his prime 2000-05 Tiger almost always came through with the pressure shot or putt. Lots of good pro golfers were maybe 40% successful with a pressure shot. In his prime he had something like 35% winning percentage. Crazy, will never be done again.
that one hole in one they showed from like the 96' phoenix open was the impetus for the 16th hole arena they construct every year there