Shin Megami Tensei 5 Vengeance - Boss Lilith [HARD]
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- čas přidán 18. 06. 2024
- Suppose to be a hype buildup fight against these 4, and this is what they came up with, a scripted fight.
Using 1 single damper locks this fight into ez mode, Lilith doesn't even re-summon as often if you only take down 1.
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In which a ton of stuff goes on:
Final Qadistu fight, technically there's one more fight but it's a side quest, so this is it for them in the main story and the rest of the game focuses on Tiamat, Yoko and Tao once she reappears like the original game.
Tiamat finally appears and she's the monsters from the trailers. Said trailers purposely hid the humanoid female torso to hide her identity, as her new design is iterative on the Soul Hackers one. Nuwa, Yuzuru, Aogami and Tao biting it all at once, with Nuwa being an inversion of what happened back in the original game (Yakumo died then, but now it's Nuwa who dies) and of course, a redone version of thaaaaat Ichiro scene and finally, the new Nahobino form.
With how each of their members were outfitted with roles similar to what you can expect from an actual player's team, I had hoped their AI would be smarter to reflect that. Alas, it wasn't meant to be.
I think just making them be able to pass their turns around like how the player's team could would have made this fight much more interesting at the very least.
rpgs suffer from single boss fight syndrome.
it takes effort to create a battle with multiple enemies that have good synergies and react accordingly.
This fight legit made me mad. Not because of difficulty (lol) but because I was legit expecting a brutal team battle where I would have to go against a legitimately balanced team and instead we've got three jobbers and an idiot who doesn't even have attacking moves _as the main target._
I was strategizing the hell out of this! I knew it was coming so I had done really silly stuff like prepare something with crit zealot so I could burst Naamah down in one turn because I expected her to be a crippling danger thanks to her signature and other silliness, but no she's got no health and doesn't even have the signature anyways. And I steamrolled the fight in like three turns and practically slaughtered all four.
_And this is a "oops you won except not really" fight._
The game dropped the ball so hard it fell off a balcony and brained some poor chap. What an absolute let down.
enhanced re-release couldn't fix combat nor story 😂
@@sampletext9426it definitely did, where the original had no story we have something acceptable now
The bar was so low that this was considered an improvement.
@@armanimiller Yeah, absolutely. It's still lackluster, but at least now I get a good grasp of everyone's motivation and goals, where they're at at key moments of the plot, etc. There are now pacing and momentum moving the story forward.
@@DrummerDucky I thought it was perfect up until after shakan, they really dropped the ball after that for some reason. It’s like the narrative goes radio silent until the empyrean throne room- all that time in between could have been spent a lot better
24:55 sounds like something a chaos character would say
Yeah but just like the original story he's law
They definitely fumble the bag with this fight. This should have been a way harder fight. I would prefer the Qadistu to have survived a little longer to be like the four henchmen to their goddess I think that would have been a good concept. However that being said I don’t think the Qadistu were underutilized they were just not used to their maximum potential they had. I still love them as villains tho they definitely helped flesh the story out compared to the original.
I hope nothing's bad is about to happen-
Oh wow, just beat that Boss and I came up with the exact same strategy, only with slightly different demons. As you mentioned, the issue with this fight is how rarely Lilith's AI actually re-summon her pals (& gather Magatsuhi).
Phys block basically makes the difficulty of this fight void which would be fine if it weren't for the fact that the game gives a re spawning infinite supply of phys block essences in the same area
Everyone here calling this easy meanwhile I'm struggling big time with this fight. Eisheth and Agrat are the two that can easily kill my team like nothing on hard difficulty
I thought it was a good idea to focus solely on Lilith after using a Spyglass and seeing she had the ability to revive the other Qadist, but much to my surprise, defeating her ended the fight. Yet the moment I looked at the rewards and saw that I got Lilith's Essence, I immediatelly went "wait, was I supposed to have beaten the other Qadist for their essences as well?
For that reason, I looked up the boss fight on youtube and came accross this video, which shows Agrat's Essence being obtained a bit after the 12:00 timestamp.
WHICH MEANS! I will have to REDO the boss fight and defeat all 4 of the Qadist in order to gain their essences! Freaking hell, man XD
im reading too much into tis, but notice how lillths tail stays near her ear?
If I had a penny for every time a game from a Japanese dev team promotes a super unique quartet of antagonists as if they'd be a major oppressive presence throughout the game, just to underutilize them then kill them off, I'd have two pennies. Not a lot, but it's disappointing that it happened twice. (RE8 and this)
When i got to this fight on normal, i just 1 turned her lol
I have a question that I hope someone can answer...what happened to the original black-haired Lilith that was in SMT V vanilla? Is she still there as a normal fusion demon or she was completely removed and replaced by the pink haired Lilith?
Completely replaced
@@7thFormVoidthats a shame i love this design but i prefer the one from SMT 3 for me her worst design is in SMT 4 even if i like it
This fight proves that Hayataro is a good boy.
So Lilith is the only one that we never get to fight on her own?
cutscenes are more interesting than the battles
wait, WHAT
I've been locked in this fight for 3 days, cause when I spyglass'ed Lilith and saw the "resurrect and summon ally" skill I thought it'd be Demi-Fiend like where he does this immediately, so the main focus would be getting her down first
I did the most broken lvl50 party I could think of (it was a 4-5 low level run until that), and got her to red life by nullifying their entire turn with Attack Mirror, which was a bit rng-dependent ngl, but then I thought - "wait, all of that to get Lility down to red bar, but there's still the 3 other members now"
So I took a look around and saw this 🤡
Needless to say, beat her first try now..
So wait. Not only is the fight pathetically easy, but then the game does the "whoops you lost even though you didn't" thing?
Unforgivable. These ladies are nothing but a disappointment from start to finish.