Their faces just say it all.....can't believe what he said in that letter and they were barely holding it together. Good luck Andrew to getting these people to work with you again.
The thing was all the thanks should have been about them because if it wasn't for the cast ALW wouldn't have a show. And yet he still made it about him. Utterly disgraceful behaviour. I will never respect him again.
Oh I’m willing to bet money that NONE of the people on that stage are ever gonna audition for a show he’s involved with ever again. Unless it’s a long running production like Phantom perhaps. But maybe not even that. They really were treated terribly by that man.
I've been a fan of Andrew for a long time now (25 years in fact) and this just makes my heart sick. For him to call it a 'costly mistake' was such a slap in the face to everyone involved and to be honest VERY unprofessional.
Costly mistake as he literally sits in his manor home, “plexiglas houses”, me thinks! Costly to the cast, not him. Except for his reputation which turned all that “We aren’t opening until the entire West End opens”. What a load of crap bc NOW we see what he is really like. Altruistic he is not.
The show was poorly written but the cast made it work!! They were wonderful, talented and will hopefully go further with their musical theatre careers and they did NOT deserve how they were treated by Andrew 😒😒
i have built up so much resentment that seeing the casts reaction to the letter is quite entertaining. like the guy on the right at 7:13 encouraging the booing would defo be me if i was in this show 😭😭
What was on with the phrase “costly mistake”?!? The cast and crew deserve significantly better than that letter! The grace they have shown in the midst of all of this speaks volumes of the character of each cast and crew member, and the letter speaks volumes to Andrew’s priorities.
lol you can see Laura **Byrne (the cast member who laughed during ALW's letter) (edit: corrected her name) repeat "a COSTLY MISTAKE" to the person standing next to her. what a class act is ALW. /s
I feel for the cast, Andrew should have been there in person. I love Carrie! And will continue to follow her. Hope the rest of the cast find other jobs and they can move past the horrid closure of the show and how they handled informing the cast. The fact that Carrie heard it through people in the cast and social media was absolutely awful! She as a lead deserved so much more respect than what was given.
Let's hope everyone already involved - who poured their heart and soul into this production - and the incredibly talented people who had yet to join the team find new jobs soon! They all deserve the best offers! Sending love and support.❤️
As somebody who wants to be an actress later in my life someday, swear to god some directors need to get their heads out of their ass and actually get important information OUT to the WHOLE cast BEFORE giving the cast false hope. I mean, imagine getting told you’re getting your first debut, but also not knowing the show is closing until another cast mate tells you! Acting is a job for MANY people. I would’ve lost it if this happened to me, so I understand why everyone was angry.
ALW wrote a half-assed show to gain popularity, then every time people treated it like the mediocre show it is he blamed someone else. The cast, the government, covid. He has no respect for any of the cast and crew who did whatever they could to make Cinderella work, he didn't even tell them when the show closed. I've lost all respect for him.
Andrew Lloyd Webber said he wanted to go to prison to be able to open his theatres again and now he has been letting a whole crew down in-mid's of a pandemic. Andrew talked like a politician. He was fully believing in the project that he now suddenly calls a 'costly mistake'?
ALW should take responsibility for both his unprofessionalism in announcing the shows closure, the way he treated this cast and also for the writing a pretty awful musical, it was disjointed right from the beginning even this stunningly talented cast couldn't make it fully work.
I know ALW gave a half-hearted, general "thanks" to the cast, but how could he not give a special mention to Carrie? ALW has gone down in my estimations.
@@lucyakroyde9857 So many years ago, Patti was in the West End cast of Sunset Boulevard and it was in her contract that she would be in the Broadway production when the show transferred to America. But then, ALW decided to recast her with Glenn Close who was playing the same role in LA. So then Patti went and threw a massive tantrum and destroyed her dressing room and then successfully sued ALW for one million dollars then used the money to build a pool in her house which she named the “ALW memorial pool” since he was dead to her
@@redfirefixfox9611 Good for her! I don't understand why ALW thinks its okay to treat people like this, to take peoples jobs away without even informing them himself. Actors show so much dedication, performing through illness, injury, & personal hardships; yet this man can’t even give them the proper recognition and respect they deserve.
If this is what ALW wanted to say then he should have published it as a press statement after the show closed. Really appalling way to end for the cast, so cruel to make them stand there and listen to words that had nothing to do with them.
Not understanding why he mentioned 'I once wrote a song with Jim Steinman'? 😅 He's so out of touch. Andrew - I have loved musical theatre since I was a toddler, and some of your shows literally helped to raise me and got me through some of my darkest times. However, I am so disappointed with this whole thing. Without your cast you wouldn't have a show, you wouldn't have your millions in revenue from theatre performances - to only briefly mention them and then go on to gush about yourself is despicable. The cast have worked so hard to present the best show possible night after night, despite us just coming out of a worldwide pandemic. They deserve more than what they've been given in so many ways - they have now lost their jobs, and you're not taking any responsibility that perhaps your material wasn't bringing in audiences! not to mention the countless people who gave up other jobs to go into the new run to just be dropped at the last minute. To the cast and crew of this show, thank you so much for doing what you do, theatre is so important and nobody gives you the credit you deserve 💕
It was such a random thing to say! As if “yeah this failed but that’s not my fault, look how great I am!” And then to disrespect the cast and production team like that? I’ve lost all my respect for the man
It seems really shoe-horned in. I think what he was trying to reference was the song he wrote with Steinman was called No Matter What which has a verse where all the lines begin with If Only which would add up with his speech going onto say If Only Covid hadn’t … etc. Still really shoe-horned in and, if I’m right, a bit arrogant to assume people would know the reference and in general cowardly to send some poor lackey with a letter calling them all a costly mistake
This honestly made me lose SO MUCH respect for Andrew. It’s absolutely disgusting and this incredible cast and crew deserved better. Without them, there wouldn’t have been such a fabulous show. I hope and pray every single one of these incredible people involved go on to do amazing work with a boss who respects them.
I'm so sad that it's already closed. This is a phenomenal cast and they all did amazing and they should've reserved better. Also great quality. I also love how when the director said he's got a letter from Andrew lloyd webber the entire theatre started booing.
I hope that Broadway do not even give him the chance to bring this show over there... After his truly despicable & unprofessional behaviour with the announcement of the closing of this show, he really has shot his credibility now. Not sorry about it. I am so sorry to the cast & the former incoming cast that have lost paid work because of this, hope that changes for all of them soon.
Same. Such an amazing cast. Also breaks my heart that we never got to see the upcoming cast in these roles. I don’t know all of the people that were cast but I looked up some of the ones I didnt know and they are all crazy talented. The girl who was gonna replace Carrie as Cinderella is absolutely terrific and I hope she gets cast as a West End lead again someday soon.
What on Earth was he thinking reading that letter? If he had half a brain, he would have read it before the show and called ALW and said “yeah, I’m not doing it”
Yeah lots of people are (rightfully) blaming ALW for writing that letter in the first place, but I also don’t really understand why the director (who clearly likes the cast) read the full letter out loud. If I were him I would have either refused to read it or just edited out the hurtful parts like calling the show a ‘costly mistake’. The letter clearly hurt a lot of the cast members. Though maybe the director just didn’t want to cover for ALW and wanted the audience to know what ALW wrote, which I can also kind of respect 🙈
@@IHARumor Connor's entire career these days is built upon being Webber's, and to a nominally lesser extent Cameron Mackintosh's, patsy. He has been right there as an active participant in stripping the work of others and abusing their creative contributions to numerous shows held by those two men as he happily cashes the paycheck. Sure he may like the cast well enough, but reading this speech is his entire current career.
ALW is a complete asshole! To not even come to the closing of a show he wrote? He should be ashamed of himself. If he wasn’t so controlling over this show, it might’ve been something really good. Instead, he flat out ruined it and payed the price! He should forget about bringing this show to Broadway entirely! I personally feel that we as a theatre community need to CANCEL ALW for his behavior! The verbal abuse he inflicted on this cast alone is just unacceptable! He should just retire and disappear from the public eye.
Time for the entire theater community to stop giving ALW airtime and space. What a disappointment. The cast and crew were total class acts to hold it together as well as they did.
Laurens reaction to him saying it may of been a costly mistake, I'm surprised she didnt say anything else. Wonder how long it'll be before bad cinderella on broadway has its final performance and it's a "costly mistake"
Quite funny. The cast remains relatively composed, but not composed enough to hide their agreement and delight with the audience. I almost feel bad for Laurence Connor. His entire career these days is built on being Webber's minion and fall guy...
Well this was doomed to fail. They already had the Rodgers and Hammerstein Cinderella that was successful. To me it felt like wait I can do better and he didn’t it’s like when Hollywood makes 2 of the same Kind of movies and ones a hit and one flops. But I hope all the cast finds work and that whatever it has is a huge hit.
Terrible letter. But it should be noted that he said opening the musical earlier (with all the Covid restrictions) was a costly mistake, not that the musical itself was a costly mistake
Could someone please tell me why they already booed before the letter was read? I mean, the bits of music I heard of "Cinderella" sounds a bit mediocre and half-heartet, but is there another reason?
_No Matter What_ was the song ALW composed and Jim Steinman lyricised. It featured a verse that began every line with "If only ...", a phrase he was borrowing in relation to COVID, the lack of financial relief assistance, et cetera, that he believed might have kept _Cinderella_ running.
I haven’t seen the musical, but i hope there weren’t any kid/young actors in the cast. Imagine having your boss shit on you (via letter because he didn’t have the balls to show up) in front of a theater of people that you don’t know. Thats devastating for an adult. I can’t imagine it for a kid
idk the ages of all the actors but some of the intended new cast were gonna make their west end debut on cinderella (john whaite, daisy blanche treille (?), etc) so it just feels like a slap in the face
@@samael9589 yeah i think some of them were saying that they had legit rejected other roles/jobs bc they expected to be in an alw production and then all at once they lost their jobs with basically no backup plan. its honestly horrible especially considering it was meant to be their west end debut and some of them were very young
True. We dont know the full story. That being said, imagine working daily on large difficult project, giving it your all, only for your boss to say your efforts were for naught, because the project was a "costly mistake." Sure, it's not unexpected for a lot of bosses to say that, but that fact doesn't make you feel any better, does it? Not to mention, it wasn't mentioned in the video, but the lack of communication regarding the show's closing caused a lot of cast members to lose their job secuirty. Performing arts is a rigorous industry and these people deserved respect. Whether or not it was his intention, ALW failed to give it to them and for that, he should be held accountable.
I actually couldn’t watch his grandiose display at the Jubilee bc of how two faced he is. He no longer deserves his premier place in the West End. Respect is earned not accumulated so you can be an arrogant prima doña and crush everyone later on. You are now a “has been”.
Bring it back next year, with the original cast so the rest of us poor mortals can see this wonderful play, written by the great ALW, writer of so many great West End productions including this one, and with Carrie whose voice and character are brilliant!
Did you not watch the video and hear the utterly sanctimonious letter he wrote being read out loud? ALW may have created such great classics as Phantom and Cats but that doesn’t allow him to act like a utter knobhead especially to the cast of this very production. How in hell do you still have respect for this man, especially after the comments he said in relation to Cinderella and after the incident with Lupone?
@@kbye2321 Simple. He is a creative genius, and this is just one glitch in a very long and distinguished career. We all make mistakes, and at least he worked his butt off and was prepared to be arrested to get the West End back on track. Fortunately that did not happen. Covid however, which was not his fault nor responsibility did. I myself was due to attend a theatre last night, however got an e mail at 2pm yesterday afternoon as a cast member had tested positive for Covid so the show got cancelled. It happens, and I’m not blaming the producers / directors.
@@SamWest96 I am fully aware of his career, having watched it since it started. As for Cinders, his reasoning was sound, although the delivery was not. Either way he is still a creative genius.
Basically; he didn't bother telling his cast and crew that the show was closing. He told them half an hour before the news hit social media, while they were gathered on the stage. Carrie didn't even hear it from him as she wasn't there that day and had to hear it from a castmate. What's worse is that the incoming cast had to find out they lost their upcoming jobs on Twitter. He also dedicated all his time afterwards talking about his plans for a Broadway run and barely mentioned the hard work of the West End cast. And apparently also yelled at them over the tannoy because of a bad review.
The show closed early because it was making enough money for him. And when the show closed, he informed part of the current cast right before the closure announcement was made public. The rest of the cast found out online and via friends, including Carrie who is the shows lead. The future cast only found out via social media, as their agents were informed on a bank holiday Sunday. And ALW has not apologised. Basically he caused a lot of very avoidable grief and is unapologetic.
@@misssupercookie2011 The bad review thing is even worse than it sounds because it was the first “American” newspaper (it was the New York Post) review, which heavily criticised the show and the writing itself but highly praised the actors. After this ALW decided to call and rebuke the whole cast about how awful they all are/how bad they were making him look (which they pumped through the loudspeakers of the whole theatre) from his holiday home in Mallorca and essentially screamed at them whilst the actors were on stage warming up/getting ready to perform the show, because the ego of ALW couldn’t possibly fathom that he’d written a sub par show so in his mind it was obviously the cast’s fault. Apparently what he said was so awful he caused some of the actors to cry/breakdown quite severely. The actual show that evening ended up starting about 30 minutes late as actors were still in a mess (I mean try having your boss scream at you about how awful you are at your job/about issues that categorically aren’t your fault and then having to go out and outperform your job (that’s normally done to an exceptionally high level anyway) in front of hundreds of staring, expectant audience almost immediately afterwards). There was also huge risk too as some of the actors were threatening to walk out of the theatre and not do that night’s show/end their contract there and then. When this didn’t happen, there were apparently even talks and a vote held about whether they should hold a full blown strike for the following Friday (which would typically be one of the fullest in terms of tickets sold so therefore more costly and more inconvenient/embarrassing for ALW). Obviously none of it went ahead otherwise the news of it would have been everywhere. But it shows the cast were already fed up of being treated like second class citizens by ALW, and then the stuff with the show cancellation announcement (where the lead wasn’t even in the building to be told the show was cancelled and had to find out via text from another member of the cast), he essentially turned most of the West End and some Broadway actors/crew against him or even more against him if they already had an issue with him, which famously several big name actors did/still do. This includes legends such a Patti LuPone who once sued him over his appalling treatment of her. She won the case and built a swimming pool in her garden with the money she won and called the pool, “The Andrew Lloyd Webber Memorial Pool”. Anyway, ALW’s rebuking of the cast was especially hideous due to the fact that a lot of this iteration of Cinderella was ultimately saved from being a total flop by the extraordinary talent he had in his cast, like his newest “leading lady” in Carrie and the phenomenal talent that is Ivano, nevermind all the talent in the supporting cast. And I think this “thank you” letter will be the final nail in the negative viewpoint coffin of ALW, and will vastly worsen attitudes towards him, and I don’t limit that to just people who work in the theatre industry. I also imagine it won’t be a stretch that he might struggle to get any big names for his future staging of shows, at least for the immediate future because, well, people talk. And I also imagine that at a minimum, this cast will try and avoid as many ALW/RUG projects as they can in the future because they have had such a negative experience with him on this which is sad as I can see a fair few of the Cinderella cast absolutely excelling in some of his older, more successful shows. Plus just on a very petty note about ALW, I was already miffed with him before all the Cinderella stuff due to the Cats movie (and not just because it was awful…) When ALW decided he wanted to write Cats the musical based on the book of poetry by T.S.Eliot, he approached Eliot’s widow to get permission/the rights to the book to make the show. Apparently (and ALW’s says this, own words on a documentary somewhere) T.S.Eliot and then his widow had been approached repeatedly by people like Disney wanting to transform it into a movie/TV show etc, and T.S.Eliot had always explicitly said no as he didn’t want it Disney-fied. However, Esme (the widow) finally allowed ALW to use the book because of how he described to her what he intended on doing in the show, how it would look/sound and that Disney would never be allowed to go anywhere near it and that the author’s wishes would be firmly upheld. Which of course we now know that Disney eventually did get involved in that god forsaken movie, and coincidentally work/preproduction began on it not too long after Eliot’s wife died… The whole thing just felt incredibly gross to me and drastically changed my opinion of him (especially when the movie was as awful as it was). If someone needed a sign to believe in karma, the fact the show got universally panned by critics, was so unpopular (even with the original musical lovers) and in general was simply an awful AWFUL movie could almost be seen as a direct result of (what at least appeared to be) his essentially waiting for an elderly woman to die so there was no one left to object to the movie being made. So ever since then he’s felt like a sleezeball to me, nevermind adding all his atrocious behaviour surrounding Cinderella and his general self serving attitude on top of it…
I can't believe he had the audacity to write that letter. That cast deserved way more than a half-hearted "thanks"
Still to this day Lauren Byrne's reaction to "costly mistake" makes me so happy.
Their faces just say it all.....can't believe what he said in that letter and they were barely holding it together. Good luck Andrew to getting these people to work with you again.
The thing was all the thanks should have been about them because if it wasn't for the cast ALW wouldn't have a show. And yet he still made it about him.
Utterly disgraceful behaviour. I will never respect him again.
Getting anyone to work with him again. All this whole saga has really done is make actors say “yeah I’m never auditioning for a show he’s involved in”
Oh I’m willing to bet money that NONE of the people on that stage are ever gonna audition for a show he’s involved with ever again. Unless it’s a long running production like Phantom perhaps. But maybe not even that. They really were treated terribly by that man.
@@IHARumor less than terribly
Or ANYONE to work with him again
I've been a fan of Andrew for a long time now (25 years in fact) and this just makes my heart sick. For him to call it a 'costly mistake' was such a slap in the face to everyone involved and to be honest VERY unprofessional.
Costly mistake as he literally sits in his manor home, “plexiglas houses”, me thinks! Costly to the cast, not him. Except for his reputation which turned all that “We aren’t opening until the entire West End opens”. What a load of crap bc NOW we see what he is really like. Altruistic he is not.
When was it?
@@froggitgang 8:30
Credit to the director for having the guts to even read the letter. I would've said sod it and ripped it up... Imagine the cheers that would've had 😂
Even the cast were shocked at some thing Andrew said… 🫢
Lauren brynes face says it all when she is laughing and tells a cast member next to her he said "costly mistake" (8:38)
Boos were well deserved ALW. I have respected you for over 30 years. No more. There are no excuses for your actions except as a petulant child.
The show was poorly written but the cast made it work!! They were wonderful, talented and will hopefully go further with their musical theatre careers and they did NOT deserve how they were treated by Andrew 😒😒
i have built up so much resentment that seeing the casts reaction to the letter is quite entertaining. like the guy on the right at 7:13 encouraging the booing would defo be me if i was in this show 😭😭
lauren byrne i love you so much.. her face when “costly mistake” was read out 😭😭
What was on with the phrase “costly mistake”?!? The cast and crew deserve significantly better than that letter! The grace they have shown in the midst of all of this speaks volumes of the character of each cast and crew member, and the letter speaks volumes to Andrew’s priorities.
lol you can see Laura **Byrne (the cast member who laughed during ALW's letter) (edit: corrected her name) repeat "a COSTLY MISTAKE" to the person standing next to her. what a class act is ALW. /s
Lauren byrne*
@@JJ-nt6px Ah, my mistake, thank you!
the creative director immediately jumping to defend andrew... he knew that letter was gonna be received poorly lmao
You know they are all probably huge fans of him and were so excited to be in his production. How sad.
I feel for the cast, Andrew should have been there in person. I love Carrie! And will continue to follow her. Hope the rest of the cast find other jobs and they can move past the horrid closure of the show and how they handled informing the cast. The fact that Carrie heard it through people in the cast and social media was absolutely awful! She as a lead deserved so much more respect than what was given.
Let's hope everyone already involved - who poured their heart and soul into this production - and the incredibly talented people who had yet to join the team find new jobs soon! They all deserve the best offers!
Sending love and support.❤️
As somebody who wants to be an actress later in my life someday, swear to god some directors need to get their heads out of their ass and actually get important information OUT to the WHOLE cast BEFORE giving the cast false hope. I mean, imagine getting told you’re getting your first debut, but also not knowing the show is closing until another cast mate tells you! Acting is a job for MANY people. I would’ve lost it if this happened to me, so I understand why everyone was angry.
ALW wrote a half-assed show to gain popularity, then every time people treated it like the mediocre show it is he blamed someone else. The cast, the government, covid. He has no respect for any of the cast and crew who did whatever they could to make Cinderella work, he didn't even tell them when the show closed. I've lost all respect for him.
Andrew Lloyd Webber said he wanted to go to prison to be able to open his theatres again and now he has been letting a whole crew down in-mid's of a pandemic. Andrew talked like a politician. He was fully believing in the project that he now suddenly calls a 'costly mistake'?
What an incredibly sad way for this show to end, just want to say thank you to the cast for their hard work.x
Even the cast was like 'what the f*ck is this letter'?
ALW should take responsibility for both his unprofessionalism in announcing the shows closure, the way he treated this cast and also for the writing a pretty awful musical, it was disjointed right from the beginning even this stunningly talented cast couldn't make it fully work.
Loving the reactions from young Santa. Him and the lady next to him.
That lady is Lauren Bryne. She is now Miss Honey in Matilda
I know ALW gave a half-hearted, general "thanks" to the cast, but how could he not give a special mention to Carrie? ALW has gone down in my estimations.
To be fair, ALW has a track record of this kind of stuff. If you haven’t heard the ALW and Patti LuPone story, it sounds eerily similar to this
@@redfirefixfox9611 Oh really? Nope, I haven't heard that story, will have to look it up!
@@lucyakroyde9857 So many years ago, Patti was in the West End cast of Sunset Boulevard and it was in her contract that she would be in the Broadway production when the show transferred to America. But then, ALW decided to recast her with Glenn Close who was playing the same role in LA. So then Patti went and threw a massive tantrum and destroyed her dressing room and then successfully sued ALW for one million dollars then used the money to build a pool in her house which she named the “ALW memorial pool” since he was dead to her
@@redfirefixfox9611 woah
@@redfirefixfox9611 Good for her! I don't understand why ALW thinks its okay to treat people like this, to take peoples jobs away without even informing them himself. Actors show so much dedication, performing through illness, injury, & personal hardships; yet this man can’t even give them the proper recognition and respect they deserve.
“A costly mistake”?! Wow. Really? That’s the message to send to everyone who’s worked on the show?!
If this is what ALW wanted to say then he should have published it as a press statement after the show closed. Really appalling way to end for the cast, so cruel to make them stand there and listen to words that had nothing to do with them.
Coming up to a year on. I would’ve seen this if it hadn’t closed prematurely. Gotta say the curtain call music is a total BANGER!
It. Might. Have. Been. A. Costly. Mistake?!
Not understanding why he mentioned 'I once wrote a song with Jim Steinman'? 😅 He's so out of touch. Andrew - I have loved musical theatre since I was a toddler, and some of your shows literally helped to raise me and got me through some of my darkest times. However, I am so disappointed with this whole thing. Without your cast you wouldn't have a show, you wouldn't have your millions in revenue from theatre performances - to only briefly mention them and then go on to gush about yourself is despicable. The cast have worked so hard to present the best show possible night after night, despite us just coming out of a worldwide pandemic. They deserve more than what they've been given in so many ways - they have now lost their jobs, and you're not taking any responsibility that perhaps your material wasn't bringing in audiences! not to mention the countless people who gave up other jobs to go into the new run to just be dropped at the last minute. To the cast and crew of this show, thank you so much for doing what you do, theatre is so important and nobody gives you the credit you deserve 💕
It was such a random thing to say! As if “yeah this failed but that’s not my fault, look how great I am!” And then to disrespect the cast and production team like that? I’ve lost all my respect for the man
It seems really shoe-horned in. I think what he was trying to reference was the song he wrote with Steinman was called No Matter What which has a verse where all the lines begin with If Only which would add up with his speech going onto say If Only Covid hadn’t … etc. Still really shoe-horned in and, if I’m right, a bit arrogant to assume people would know the reference and in general cowardly to send some poor lackey with a letter calling them all a costly mistake
This honestly made me lose SO MUCH respect for Andrew. It’s absolutely disgusting and this incredible cast and crew deserved better. Without them, there wouldn’t have been such a fabulous show. I hope and pray every single one of these incredible people involved go on to do amazing work with a boss who respects them.
I'm so sad that it's already closed. This is a phenomenal cast and they all did amazing and they should've reserved better. Also great quality. I also love how when the director said he's got a letter from Andrew lloyd webber the entire theatre started booing.
If he was really passionate over this very project, he would have poured his heart-blood in more than blaming it all on the government.
Seeing Carrie Cry at 2:37 just breaks my heart ):
What does a billionaire need a recovery fund for when he can afford to backup a show for a while?
I hope that Broadway do not even give him the chance to bring this show over there...
After his truly despicable & unprofessional behaviour with the announcement of the closing of this show, he really has shot his credibility now.
Not sorry about it.
I am so sorry to the cast & the former incoming cast that have lost paid work because of this, hope that changes for all of them soon.
I very much doubt it will go to Broadway. That would be an even more ‘costly mistake’.
My heart BREAKS that I never got to see this live
Same. Such an amazing cast. Also breaks my heart that we never got to see the upcoming cast in these roles. I don’t know all of the people that were cast but I looked up some of the ones I didnt know and they are all crazy talented. The girl who was gonna replace Carrie as Cinderella is absolutely terrific and I hope she gets cast as a West End lead again someday soon.
Same
What on Earth was he thinking reading that letter? If he had half a brain, he would have read it before the show and called ALW and said “yeah, I’m not doing it”
Yeah lots of people are (rightfully) blaming ALW for writing that letter in the first place, but I also don’t really understand why the director (who clearly likes the cast) read the full letter out loud. If I were him I would have either refused to read it or just edited out the hurtful parts like calling the show a ‘costly mistake’. The letter clearly hurt a lot of the cast members. Though maybe the director just didn’t want to cover for ALW and wanted the audience to know what ALW wrote, which I can also kind of respect 🙈
@@IHARumor Connor's entire career these days is built upon being Webber's, and to a nominally lesser extent Cameron Mackintosh's, patsy. He has been right there as an active participant in stripping the work of others and abusing their creative contributions to numerous shows held by those two men as he happily cashes the paycheck. Sure he may like the cast well enough, but reading this speech is his entire current career.
ALW is a complete asshole! To not even come to the closing of a show he wrote? He should be ashamed of himself. If he wasn’t so controlling over this show, it might’ve been something really good. Instead, he flat out ruined it and payed the price! He should forget about bringing this show to Broadway entirely! I personally feel that we as a theatre community need to CANCEL ALW for his behavior! The verbal abuse he inflicted on this cast alone is just unacceptable! He should just retire and disappear from the public eye.
I would have ripped the letter immediately after reading it
7:11 absolutely hilarious
Time for the entire theater community to stop giving ALW airtime and space. What a disappointment. The cast and crew were total class acts to hold it together as well as they did.
Laurens reaction to him saying it may of been a costly mistake, I'm surprised she didnt say anything else. Wonder how long it'll be before bad cinderella on broadway has its final performance and it's a "costly mistake"
As it turns out not very long! It's closing next month!
Quite funny. The cast remains relatively composed, but not composed enough to hide their agreement and delight with the audience. I almost feel bad for Laurence Connor. His entire career these days is built on being Webber's minion and fall guy...
The Director is great.
Well this was doomed to fail. They already had the Rodgers and Hammerstein Cinderella that was successful. To me it felt like wait I can do better and he didn’t it’s like when Hollywood makes 2 of the same
Kind of movies and ones a hit and one flops. But I hope all the cast finds work and that whatever it has is a huge hit.
I'm just glad that the audience had the cast's back at this bullshit letter.
ALW my god get your priorities straight
Terrible letter. But it should be noted that he said opening the musical earlier (with all the Covid restrictions) was a costly mistake, not that the musical itself was a costly mistake
I've lost respect for Andrew to be honest
Could someone please tell me why they already booed before the letter was read? I mean, the bits of music I heard of "Cinderella" sounds a bit mediocre and half-heartet, but is there another reason?
When composers open a new musical, they are expected to attend that production's closing night, however far into the future that may be.
@@atinytrashcan6755 I see! Thank you ^^
A “costly mistake”. Wow.
Who are they all making kisses faces at up top?
The band!
My very little remaining respect for ALW just plummeted with that letter…. Disgraceful….
Not being funny but in the letter he said he once worked with Jim Stienman, wtf does that have to do with this show??
_No Matter What_ was the song ALW composed and Jim Steinman lyricised. It featured a verse that began every line with "If only ...", a phrase he was borrowing in relation to COVID, the lack of financial relief assistance, et cetera, that he believed might have kept _Cinderella_ running.
poor fool he make me laugh ha ha ha ha ha
I wonder if all this will spill over on his other shows.. well.. show.. Will Phantom survive this debacle?
Hopefully this comes to America. I think it will be more popular here.
hands up who here just skipped past the letter lol
The show was terrible but I love the cast. They worked with what they had and the fact that ALW didn’t show his face speaks VOLUMES
I haven’t seen the musical, but i hope there weren’t any kid/young actors in the cast. Imagine having your boss shit on you (via letter because he didn’t have the balls to show up) in front of a theater of people that you don’t know. Thats devastating for an adult. I can’t imagine it for a kid
idk the ages of all the actors but some of the intended new cast were gonna make their west end debut on cinderella (john whaite, daisy blanche treille (?), etc) so it just feels like a slap in the face
@@iwakeupandboomimarat oh i even didn’t think about actors who were debuting, thats terrible.
@@samael9589 yeah i think some of them were saying that they had legit rejected other roles/jobs bc they expected to be in an alw production and then all at once they lost their jobs with basically no backup plan. its honestly horrible especially considering it was meant to be their west end debut and some of them were very young
@@iwakeupandboomimarat god that’s terrible, i hope they get jobs soon
I hope this ruins him and his name. And everyone here was so professional despite knowing that they'll never ever work with that man ever again.
"Costly Mistake" - is not exactly the best choice of wording !
I know what Andrew did was wrong but sometimes we don’t know the whole story
True. We dont know the full story. That being said, imagine working daily on large difficult project, giving it your all, only for your boss to say your efforts were for naught, because the project was a "costly mistake." Sure, it's not unexpected for a lot of bosses to say that, but that fact doesn't make you feel any better, does it?
Not to mention, it wasn't mentioned in the video, but the lack of communication regarding the show's closing caused a lot of cast members to lose their job secuirty. Performing arts is a rigorous industry and these people deserved respect. Whether or not it was his intention, ALW failed to give it to them and for that, he should be held accountable.
100% agree with you
I actually couldn’t watch his grandiose display at the Jubilee bc of how two faced he is. He no longer deserves his premier place in the West End. Respect is earned not accumulated so you can be an arrogant prima doña and crush everyone later on. You are now a “has been”.
A half ar5ed thanks to the cast and referring to it as a 'costly mistake'. Wow! ALW and his big bizarre face has really misread this.
That letter is horrible. The cast deserved better.
BREAKING NEWS: The show is heading for Broadway. Imperial Theatre in 2023 and renamed BAD CINDERELLA.
Imagine thinking he had control over a global pandemic. 🙄
Bring it back next year, with the original cast so the rest of us poor mortals can see this wonderful play, written by the great ALW, writer of so many great West End productions including this one, and with Carrie whose voice and character are brilliant!
Did you not watch the video and hear the utterly sanctimonious letter he wrote being read out loud? ALW may have created such great classics as Phantom and Cats but that doesn’t allow him to act like a utter knobhead especially to the cast of this very production. How in hell do you still have respect for this man, especially after the comments he said in relation to Cinderella and after the incident with Lupone?
@@kbye2321 Simple. He is a creative genius, and this is just one glitch in a very long and distinguished career. We all make mistakes, and at least he worked his butt off and was prepared to be arrested to get the West End back on track. Fortunately that did not happen. Covid however, which was not his fault nor responsibility did. I myself was due to attend a theatre last night, however got an e mail at 2pm yesterday afternoon as a cast member had tested positive for Covid so the show got cancelled. It happens, and I’m not blaming the producers / directors.
@@malcolmjohnston7873 have a look into ALW's long career of being a prized tit. TS Eliot and Cats, and Patti Lupone are good places to start
@@SamWest96 I am fully aware of his career, having watched it since it started. As for Cinders, his reasoning was sound, although the delivery was not. Either way he is still a creative genius.
Why are they booing at Andrew Lloyd Webber?
Basically; he didn't bother telling his cast and crew that the show was closing. He told them half an hour before the news hit social media, while they were gathered on the stage. Carrie didn't even hear it from him as she wasn't there that day and had to hear it from a castmate.
What's worse is that the incoming cast had to find out they lost their upcoming jobs on Twitter.
He also dedicated all his time afterwards talking about his plans for a Broadway run and barely mentioned the hard work of the West End cast. And apparently also yelled at them over the tannoy because of a bad review.
The show closed early because it was making enough money for him.
And when the show closed, he informed part of the current cast right before the closure announcement was made public. The rest of the cast found out online and via friends, including Carrie who is the shows lead. The future cast only found out via social media, as their agents were informed on a bank holiday Sunday. And ALW has not apologised.
Basically he caused a lot of very avoidable grief and is unapologetic.
@@misssupercookie2011 I see!
@@zartig09 I see again!
@@misssupercookie2011 The bad review thing is even worse than it sounds because it was the first “American” newspaper (it was the New York Post) review, which heavily criticised the show and the writing itself but highly praised the actors. After this ALW decided to call and rebuke the whole cast about how awful they all are/how bad they were making him look (which they pumped through the loudspeakers of the whole theatre) from his holiday home in Mallorca and essentially screamed at them whilst the actors were on stage warming up/getting ready to perform the show, because the ego of ALW couldn’t possibly fathom that he’d written a sub par show so in his mind it was obviously the cast’s fault. Apparently what he said was so awful he caused some of the actors to cry/breakdown quite severely. The actual show that evening ended up starting about 30 minutes late as actors were still in a mess (I mean try having your boss scream at you about how awful you are at your job/about issues that categorically aren’t your fault and then having to go out and outperform your job (that’s normally done to an exceptionally high level anyway) in front of hundreds of staring, expectant audience almost immediately afterwards). There was also huge risk too as some of the actors were threatening to walk out of the theatre and not do that night’s show/end their contract there and then. When this didn’t happen, there were apparently even talks and a vote held about whether they should hold a full blown strike for the following Friday (which would typically be one of the fullest in terms of tickets sold so therefore more costly and more inconvenient/embarrassing for ALW). Obviously none of it went ahead otherwise the news of it would have been everywhere. But it shows the cast were already fed up of being treated like second class citizens by ALW, and then the stuff with the show cancellation announcement (where the lead wasn’t even in the building to be told the show was cancelled and had to find out via text from another member of the cast), he essentially turned most of the West End and some Broadway actors/crew against him or even more against him if they already had an issue with him, which famously several big name actors did/still do. This includes legends such a Patti LuPone who once sued him over his appalling treatment of her. She won the case and built a swimming pool in her garden with the money she won and called the pool, “The Andrew Lloyd Webber Memorial Pool”. Anyway, ALW’s rebuking of the cast was especially hideous due to the fact that a lot of this iteration of Cinderella was ultimately saved from being a total flop by the extraordinary talent he had in his cast, like his newest “leading lady” in Carrie and the phenomenal talent that is Ivano, nevermind all the talent in the supporting cast. And I think this “thank you” letter will be the final nail in the negative viewpoint coffin of ALW, and will vastly worsen attitudes towards him, and I don’t limit that to just people who work in the theatre industry.
I also imagine it won’t be a stretch that he might struggle to get any big names for his future staging of shows, at least for the immediate future because, well, people talk. And I also imagine that at a minimum, this cast will try and avoid as many ALW/RUG projects as they can in the future because they have had such a negative experience with him on this which is sad as I can see a fair few of the Cinderella cast absolutely excelling in some of his older, more successful shows.
Plus just on a very petty note about ALW, I was already miffed with him before all the Cinderella stuff due to the Cats movie (and not just because it was awful…) When ALW decided he wanted to write Cats the musical based on the book of poetry by T.S.Eliot, he approached Eliot’s widow to get permission/the rights to the book to make the show. Apparently (and ALW’s says this, own words on a documentary somewhere) T.S.Eliot and then his widow had been approached repeatedly by people like Disney wanting to transform it into a movie/TV show etc, and T.S.Eliot had always explicitly said no as he didn’t want it Disney-fied. However, Esme (the widow) finally allowed ALW to use the book because of how he described to her what he intended on doing in the show, how it would look/sound and that Disney would never be allowed to go anywhere near it and that the author’s wishes would be firmly upheld. Which of course we now know that Disney eventually did get involved in that god forsaken movie, and coincidentally work/preproduction began on it not too long after Eliot’s wife died… The whole thing just felt incredibly gross to me and drastically changed my opinion of him (especially when the movie was as awful as it was). If someone needed a sign to believe in karma, the fact the show got universally panned by critics, was so unpopular (even with the original musical lovers) and in general was simply an awful AWFUL movie could almost be seen as a direct result of (what at least appeared to be) his essentially waiting for an elderly woman to die so there was no one left to object to the movie being made. So ever since then he’s felt like a sleezeball to me, nevermind adding all his atrocious behaviour surrounding Cinderella and his general self serving attitude on top of it…
It was a costly mistake because how woke this show was, not because of the actors. ALW should blame the woke producer.