Why Should You Carry a Traditional Pocket Knife? | Knife Banter Ep. 9
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I’m 70 y.o. & have a Sears Craftsman pocketknife with a 2” & a 1.5” blade. Have carried it for 50 some years, used it for everything, & took good care of it. It has served me well. Love all the new blades for sure, but still depend on old faithful.
That's awesome!
I have one of those in my collection but one of the smaller blades is broke off so I don’t carry it.
I love case knives, opinel, buck and so on the older knives look better over time where the new style knives are cheaply made unless you pay good money you can always get a traditional "pocket" knife for a good price.
Mr_ E54 yeah
@ I used to work for Sears. They sold everything. They even sold and constructed homes. Infact, in the restrooms they even had Sears branded urinals and toilets.
I carry my great grandfathers traditional knife, he got it when he was a young man and when I carry it I feel a sense of responsibility that I'm carrying a part of my heritage with me day by day.
Kyle Loyd I have several of my greatgrandfathers knifes.
I'd like my son to carry my sodbuster knife when I'm gone too!
Well done man
I’ve lost my grandfathers and I feel so sick about it.
I hope it got lost in our house. Makes me wanna throw up to think it fell on the ground or fell out in a grocery store. I’m hoping I’ll find it soon.
That was also his favorite knife he had.
@@walktaarwhate3872😢
I’m 13 years old, I carry my traditional frost cutlery canoe knife, 1. Because it’s the only pocket knife I have and 2. It was my great grandmothers who passed away and my grandpa got it for me.
I have my fathers old one he dont care qbout it
That's a nice story.
It's always good to have a practical knife handy,
practice your sharpening on things that don't matter.
How could you have a entire “traditional” knife video with no mention of buck😕
The 110 hunter is kind of a classic, but most buck knives aren't really traditional
Mike Quinn stockman, canoe and trapper just to name a few bucks, are those not traditional to you?
@@casecutlerykid2095 Dude. I completely forgot about those! Thanks for the reminder! I was thinking about some of the more tactical type knives
Mike Quinn yeah they are starting to make tactical knives and in China too😑
Right though?!!
Keep in mind your grandfather probably never carried a cell phone so he had a free pocket
And is more manly than the soy boys that populate the Earth.
It’s funny because you probably used a phone to make this comment
thunder bolt Still a phone though, and CZcams is social media, so if you don’t like social media, I don’t see what you’re doing here my friend.
CatDad 06 lmao jumps into a comment section talking shit about people then exits crying, “worry about yourself dude” 😂😂😂 GG Well played
Nelson Chevez I know right, what a fucking dumbass. “kEEp sTaRiNg iNtO uR iPhOnE!!”
the buck 110 I've been carrying for 13 years does everything I need it to do and then some. kinda surprised it wasn't mentioned in this vid.
Buzzby1949 I kinda figured
DaBirdman1989 yeah cone to think of it i dont know why it wasnt
The Buck 110 is not a pocket knife, a sheath is so needed that 90% of 110's come with one.
djchris30 a sheath is not needed
jetsgo66 agreed
I fell in love with “gentleman folders” and grandpa slip joint pocket knives when I was 10. I insisted I was old enough at 10 to Carry a knife and my dad agreed. I also started asking for “real tools”. So I could really build things. Every time we went into a flea market I would go right to the grandpa knives, pocket watches, and pocket tools.
Why? At that point it’s what I saw and what I knew. I made sticks into pointier sticks, I learned the basics of sharpening, cut string. Etc. Eventually I got a Victorinox multitool. I carried that for years, but I also carried a small folder. It handles with much more precision then a multitool.
As an older teen/ young adult I was using my knife for heavier jobs, and it almost closed on my hand. So I got a Buck lock back (did I mention that I’m almost 50?) . I loved that thing and misused it as a hammer, pry bar, etc. But I STILL carried a slip joint. At this point it was usually my sharpest knife because I only cut with it. I am an artist, and I got used to sharpening all of my pencils by hand. You could make a fine point, or a chiseled angled point ... I wouldn’t draw detail work for more than 5 minutes without sharpening. You also would literally scratch out inked lines in places to erase them. For that you need a flat or neatly flat section of a knife ...so it makes contact with the blade parallel to the paper. If you caught the tip you would pierce the paper and ruin it. You would end up scraping off almost powdered paper with the ink on it. Also, I would sharpen this knife briefly a couple tiles a week.
Now I carry a CRKT m21-14sf with AUS 8 steel for outdoor work and self defense. But I still carry a “gentleman’s knife”. The Fallkniven laminated cobalt steel. I would say that I choose my best quality knife as my in pocket knife and then something bigger cheaper, and capable of being misused as my clip carry.
Ole crkt knives are great! Had an m21 for a minute but got the home front! Still carry my case trapper and small case stockman everywhere tho
Good comment
And I thought I was weird for carrying multiple knives lmao
Should’ve got a 940
You guys should have had a couple old dudes provide the "why" for traditional knives. Firstly the old guys aren't into the speed of deployment.
The only time old guys get in a hurry is when nature calls!
@@jamesbenedict7206 What? I can hardly believe you.....................wait a minute. I'll be right back. Have to go potty.
Right if I needed to get to my knife that quickly I would just pull my gun
I am from Texas btw.
@@lukeescamilla9386 finally getting around to my carry license. After a few situations I decided to hurry tf up and get one already. My big buck knife is great....can't protect me if I'm on the road with someone shooting at me. That's Houston for you.
The only time i needed speedy deployment on my knife it was when i saw a poor puppy stuck with a piece of rope on his neck, one handed opening its a great thing
My 82 year old father once told me that when he was a kid, "the old men would sit on the porch with their Shrade Stockmans and other pocket knives and visit while they munched on apples. They'd use their knives to slice off bites of apple and then raise the slice, knife in hand, up to their pie holes. They would tell jokes and talk about everything important and not important. Every man carried a folder in the pocket; they were used daily for all manner of utility."
Catharsis. Times were slower and simpler then. Carrying a folder helps connect me to those simpler times.
You just described my grandpa. I'm going to cherish him and his apples.
I agree. Besides, people weren't interested in military style knives, they just carried a useful tool. Now most modern knives look like something from a Rambo film. The interesting thing is, most of those old grandfathers had probably been in the military and carried bayonets!
Yes, long moustaches of the early eras did necessitate you cut all your food in smaller bite size pieces. You just can't simply bite into an apple or hamburger as we do today, very painful bite your facial hair. It's actually a very civilized way to eat our food.
So would tuberculosis. Its not an argument for either.
im using my 4 inch folder exactly for apples. never had been interested in that tactical stuff, most of my knives are traditional folders - doukdouk, opinel, mercator, higonokami, navaja and their shiny modern models. As for today my EDC is Katsu titanium with razor blade.
Case trapper in a leather pouch because not everything needs to be super tactical it just needs to be cut
Seriously. I have an Opinel. I don't plan on stabbing anyone. I don't see any point in a blade that opens with spring assist. I think it makes it more dangerous. I have one knife that I can open with one hand.
In Chrome Vandium!! Stuff would be a super steel if people didnt cry about a little tarnish on their blade.
Completely agree with u
If you cut things a lot at your job then single hand operation is nice. I agree though, you don't need "tactical" speed all the time. These guys live in fantasy land
@@cjones7854 maybe portability?
I love carrying the older knives because it gives me a certain feeling of persevering the way my grandfather carried his knives.
So here’s the thing…when i reach into my pocket for my knife, I don’t want security alarms going off. I’m not a member of Seal Team 6. I’m not about to field dress a deer or defend myself in a hot-blooded bar fight. I want my pocket knife to be discreet and when I take it out, I want people to think…he’s about to peel an apple, or cut some string, or open a box. A traditional pocket knife does these things with utility and a certain timeless and non-threatening style that is at the core of its appeal. My last carry was an opinel #6 in stainless with an olive wood handle.
Same reasons here. I carried a Buck 503 for 20 years... up until travel restrictions made any knife an issue as a carry-on item.
same i only use my knife to open up amazon box and or to cut up fruits... buck 110 bought 20 years ago
And this exactly is what's wrong with people. It's like the black rifle problem. A knife is a knife. Between 2 similar size knives, no one is going to suddenly see you as a threat because the style of your blade. If you're clearly opening a box, what knife you have won't matter to most.
@@Sheridantank Unfolding a discreet pocket knife is one thing. Pulling a tactical style knife and thumb flipping out its 8" blade is something else...even if you're only cutting string. If you don't understand the difference between those two and how it might create discomfort for those around you, then that isn't a problem with "people". That's on you.
Ill feild dress a deer with any folding trapper.. my dad did. I still do..
Why in the god forsaken hell would clean your finger nails with a blade at a freakin classical concert?
b k
If he’s anything like me he was drug there against his will by his girlfriend and fidgeting with his blade is his way of silently demonstrating his disinterest in the proceedings.
Because that's how a man aserts his Manliness (a.k.a. Mancard) in a prissy little show he took his wife to enjoy herself.
@@user-jh8cx4jf7u I was watching these guys and thinking "Oh my Jesus" "would you look at this one" "Careful careful don't cut your Pinky".
Bored
I've used my box cutter to clean under my nails.
As a former BSA member, I find that if you loop a length of cord through the lanyard hole, knot it, tuck the knot under your belt, and drop your knife in your pocket, you can always find your knife and you're less likely to drop it.
That's how I carry for victorinox for formal occasions.
yeah i've done that as well. been a while since i've used a lanyard on anything now though other then old cheap stuff that i haven't taken them off of. i use one with my bathrobe for example.
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I’ve tried many different options and combos over the years but I find myself being more drawn to minimalist, old style wood or bone handle folding knives rather than the latest tactic-cool flippers made to quick draw or fidget with. There’s something about getting back to basics and carrying a man’s knife that just works without the flashy looks and action. I have no problem carrying one of those in my pocket or on my hip in a sheath.
I spent years in the field as a plumber. As a plumber you don’t want to use the same knife for work as you do for lunch so I’ve carried a traditional as well as a modern knife for a very long time.
i carry a one cause my grandpa gave it to me before he passed away
you are very lucky, use it clean it sharpen it & love it. you will be doing what your grandpa wanted.
Ajin Sivarajah 😩
Ajin Sivarajah same here friend.
Ajin Sivarajah same here, he bought it 50-60 years ago and I still use it on a regular basis
That's why I carry mine.
Love how disconnected these guys are with the traditional knives
Totally!
They really aren’t connected with traditional pocket knives to be honest. I collect these “grandpa knives” and I can tell these guys aren’t connected with them at all. Sorry for opposing your opinion.
Montgomery Outdoors24 disconnected means not connected.
My grandpa gave me his pocket knife, I used it for a week, I took all the rust off and sharpened it to shaving sharp and I put it into a fucking box because my Benchmade Crooked River showed up. I find old pocket knives cool but almost always less practical than modern ones, but they are cool to have.
@@spideyhunter20 thanks! i thought it was me...
both of them are so calm and so gentle. It's really comforting to watch these two guys talking in this video
Yesss!! Calm and gentle award received. -Ben
I really appreciate these fellows gentleman-like manners. They treat one another and the subject with due respect. And this contrast of knives is cool in general.
For me most of the contemporary knives have very aggressive, military style. They looks like pocket combat knives. I need just an elegant looking cutting tool for everyday carry. That's why I prefer classical pocket knives.
I do badly with nail nicks and would prefer a lock. I really want a classy pocket knife, and I think the Spyderco Chapparal does that well. It’s considered “small” by modern standards but is large enough to get glances when I take it out at the office. I also like my Serge Bean Gen 2 (slip joint with nice detent and thumb hole open) but the blade stock is sort of thick.
Anyhow, looking at getting a nice slip joint soon :). Maybe one of Serge’s, maybe the Spyderco roadie, but really want something nice. Perhaps I’ll learn to live with nail nicks
Well said.
if you never owned a scrade old timer... you never had a grandpa
Matt a. I keep one on my coffee table at all times.
True he died
my grandpa had a few of them, but they're pieces of shit
when my grandpa died, i inherited his kershaw blur...
wow that comment just made me realize that i really never had a grandpa
They're classics and you feel the history. Case makes some of the most beautiful knives today. Just so much history. Also when the blades are out, they all do the work we need them for.
My case is sharper than most new knifes
My grandfather always had a case 3 blade pocket knife, he said that one was kept sharp for widdling and fine work, one kept clean for food, one for everyday use
but... but... buck 110. possibly the most famous knife ever produced... and not in this video...?
Chase Craiger Buck and Victorinox were two knives that came to mind.
idk how you make this video without them. not even an honorary mention
much much bigger, heavier, longer and thicker, than the 940. its a hunter not a gentleman's folder
this isn't a video about the 940? the 940 is not a gentleman's folder by their definition. The buck 110 is the father of all locking folders and has been carried more than any other knife
my point is, the 940 is to big to be on the list. these are small pocket knives most dont even have locks. the 110 is a Big folding knife. toss in the buck 112, sure
I know this comment won't be liked on a knife channel. But the thing is not everyone needs to be tactical ready for war. Most people just need a pocket knife every once in a while.
Plus the cool factor is awesome.
Annddddddddd I don't have a million things in my pocket
..and have more then one pocket...
melvin sacromentoe My pocket knife has literally nothing to do with defense.
Just for utility and everyday use, I'd probably be better off with my fists than my Swiss Army knife, lol.
Agree. I shake my head often when my friends are showing off their newest Tacticool knife they just spent hundreds of dollars on. I show them my Old Timer or my SAK and then point out that you should never bring a knife to a gun fight.
I carry my grandfathers buck 110 folding hunter because it was passed down from my grandfather to my father and to me and one day onto my son and his son and so on and so forth. I carry that blade because not only does it have meaning to it but it also has value, in my family that is.
I sometimes carry a Case knife like these in addition to my standard pocket clip knife. It’s something that I can fidget with when I’m bored, something to take out and look at, also makes me feel nostalgic, and serves as an extra or back-up just in case. If your out somewhere with a buddy who doesn’t have a knife on them you can gift them and that’s fun sometimes.
Hard to beat a good Swiss Army Knife for most daily tasks.
Jimmy C agreed I find scissors and screwdrivers are useful at random times and I can fit a SAK in my front small pocket away from the keys or phone.
Jimmy C Amen, that's what I've had in my pocket for nearly fifteen years.
Jimmy C couldn't agree more
Oer the past few years, I started carrying a Swiss Champ more often than my Old Timer. I like the small tool kit that's handy to fix the small jobs instead of having to go get something out of the tool box and then have to carry it back. Pretty much, when I walk out of the house door, I drop my SAK in my pocket out of habit.
Fieldmaster because I wanted both screwdriver types, scissors, and the saw. I do not see much use in a corkscrew.
I carry an opinel its classy and and is cheap. Makes me not afraid to lose it.
I have lost too many for expensive knives of the same quality as opinel. nothing wrong with it.
The Opinel is always great value. I bought my first this summer just gone (2017) in carbon steel. It's a great knife, but needed a little attention to get it easy to open when I first had is. I have the eight. A nice small folder with a lock. Technically not UK friendly but unlikely to scare anyone if I were to use it in a public place. My son will get a seven kids version with the rounded end in stainless, which is 12c27. They use good steel... Not super steel but good especially for the price. My dad had to giant hands, so I will get him a ten which is quite massive for a pocket folder.
Want bigger? Try the twelve which is huge, and probably would get a comment if opened in the street. It the thirteen which is more a folding sword...😀😀😀
I carry my grandfather’s Barlow in pocket for sentimental value.
Andrew K nice! I miss my old Barlow. Not sure what ever happened to it. I retired it when I got into high school for a Buck lock blade. And being a kid I think it ended up in a junk drawer that got dumped when I moved out. I really wish I had it back now just for the memories.
My great grandpa gave me a Barlow for my first pocket knife!
Same here, but I use mine daily.
Just found one in a box of old tools cleaning out the basement think I'll clean it up and start carrying it
I carry a case medium stockman everyday for years.
Nostalgia, functionality in an office setting and remembering my dad and grandpa
I think they are disconnected as to why people carry traditional pocket knives. Certain style blades are more useful than others depending on what you are doing. Ever try to field dress a rabbit with a katana shaped blade? Now try it with that Case Trapper, its a whole lot easier. Clip point, drop point, sheeps foot, tanto, gut hook, spear point etc. etc. all have a different application same with material type of blade for example stainless and high carbon. If you"re just cleaning under your nails, or opening a box of batteries then it really doesn't matter. But if you're a sailor, hunter/trapper, whittler, warfighter, EMT, mountain climber, diver, so on and so forth, you will realize that certain designs make your life easier. Would a whittler want a huge unwieldy folder to make fine cuts? EMT's need to cut through seat bealts, Mountain Climbers may have to cut through rope and serrated will help. A warfighter/military member may need one for defensive/general purpose i.e. K-Bar fighting knife as the clip point punctures well, good belly for slicing, high carbon steel for field applications as it will help with larger sparks and holds a edge with less maintenance, really thick to take a beating which makes it poor at precision/fine whittling jobs. Diver probably wants to go stainless, serrated for cutting fishing lines/nets they may get caught in or prop gets caught in etc.
Henry Wes yesssssss you said it!
Henry Wes I agree
this is what i was hoping for in the video, but instead the it was just two guys talk about social situations and the content i wanted was in the comment section.
Henry Wes, they're talking about the difference between one-hand knives versus more traditional knives. That has nothing to do with blade shape, or blade steel. You can find both modern and traditional knives with different sizes and shapes of blade, and in various kinds of steel.
joshuabissey they stated "they carry traditional knives for nostalgia". I simply explained that people that have no other use for a knife other than to clean under their nails have no idea why people carry so called traditional knives. Also the people in the video asked viewers that carry "traditional knives" to write in the comments why they carry them. They also stated that they do not even hardly use their knives being in an office environment. So I decided to shed some light as a retired military man who used a knife daily in maintenance of aircraft, self aid buddy care, as a carpenter, hunter, fisherman, and backpacker. And some office experience.
I carry the case trapper. It was a birthday gift. My grandpa bought it for me when i was 10. I carry it because after all this time I can't imagine carrying anything else. You really do get attached to it. Plus like you said, it is completely non threaten. I have use my knife all over the place and no one ever said anything to me. Plus when you need a knife it is just there. I have used it for everything from cutting rope to store bags. It is truly like my right hand...
Don't even get me started on that...
I’m gonna be honest, I carry traditional folders because I’m a old school kinda guy for the most part, also I think modern knives are tacky and I don’t like them. I carry a case trapper in a case knife sheath on my right side on my belt
I carry one because I absolutely love the oldschool, timeless and classic design of traditionals. And most traditional folders are lightweight, too. Further I wear suits quite often for work so in most cases I carry my small Douk Douk or a Robert Klaas Stockman in my chest or inner pocket plus a Victorinox Tinker for any other tasks I might need small tools for.
The first knife I ever bought was a case sod buster Jr. From an Ace hardware when I was 12, I rode my bike 2 miles to get it and the reluctant cashier sold it to me for $8. I still have it, and it was a back up utility knife I used in Bosnia, UAE, Saudi, Afcrapistan, and last but least, shit holes of shit holes, Iraqi!!!! It's rusted a few times on me and has been tossed in a bead blaster to remove the rust. Although it's very worn and has lost a little less than half of it's blade profile, it's a beast that has served me well over 30 years and now resides with reverence in a nice wooden box next to my bed with other cherished relics from my past
your the most interesting nigga I've ever met
When I was in the light infantry, I ran out and bought a Gerber LMF, because I thought that was what the epitome of infantry cool was. All I ever used it for was a open MRE's and cut 550 cord. In a profession where weight matters, I ditched the LMF and bought a swiss army knife. It opened my MRE's and cut 550 cord just fine. Now I carry a Case copper lock with the amber bone handle.
Case and point (no pun intended) I think most people overestimate what they're needs are when it comes to knives.
For me, I know I dont need my big SOG Trident Elite, but Its what I wanted
A Victorinox Classic got me through conscription. Some guys laughed at how small it was, until they came to borrow it because they didn't carry their own knife.
A 1" toothpick is better than the knife you don't have and I found that the Classic on my keychain was all I needed. The knife steel is nice but the scissor spring broke and the scales come loose when used roughly, minor problems.
In 1983 while in the Army I purchased a Victorinox soldier sak. That knife went around the world with me and was used in two deployments, and I still carry it today.
This is true. I carry a Kershaw leek and a Leatherman, but I work maintenance. A quick knife and a solid tool are never a con in my profession.
I am on the Case collectors forum and a few years ago they did a year long challenge. And I did one. I carried nothing but a Case Peanut knife. Which its longest blade is I think a inch and a half. It did everything I needed to do with a knife. And it did way more than I would have ever thought it could. Do we need all these big automatic or assisted knives? No. But I say, carry what you like and be happy.
I grew up on a farm and I have carried a large 3 bladed stockman since I was about 12 years old. The large fits my hand well. The big blade was the utility blade that was used for rough cutting and scraping, scraping battery cables and what ever rough work that had to be done, the next smaller blade was used for cutting the coarser stuff, Not all stuff on a farm is like cutting butter and is pretty rough on an edge. Then you saved the last blade for the delicate work. You have to have a sharp blade at all times. Getting out splinters and other assorted first aid stuff. When you went out without your knife it was like leaving home without your right hand!
Well said
Used my 110 to open a small access on a horses muzzle and to trim the ragged edges on a cow's chest wound sharp as a scalpel
MUCH better suited for delicate tasks with smaller and thinner blades.
Most traditional designs have multiple blades for various purposes. Nice to have a blade for utility tasks and others you can keep sharp.
LIGHTER!
Easier to sharpen
Clips are an added risk... I don't use the clip on a knife because the knife is easier to loose. I've lost some... Put it in the bottom of your pocket with a bunch of crap on top of it.
And yes, sentimental and less threatening.
Try carving something out of wood or skinning game with that 940 and you will see the advantages of the traditional knife.
For most of us strapping manly men today... We can open more boxes of knives and cut cardboard quicker and dream up elaborate plans to shank a terrorist with our fabulous flippy ferocious folders... That's about the end of their practical andvantage.
I think the amount of comments mentioning the buck 110, sak, and case knives speaks volumes!
The 940 is considered to be the best edc ever made
I hate when people call traditional knived "grandfathers' knives". It's like calling an acoustic guitar a grandpa's guitar.
Acoustic vs. Electric guitars. Good analogy.
Most grandfathers carry pocket knives. Most grandfathers do not carry acoustic guitars.
No Doubt!!!! But then again hipsters are stupid!!
So what's the proper name? My folks called this the old timer knife so that's what I called them
A Kabar is a Kabar, Buck is a Buck, a Case is a Case, a Schrade is a Schrade.
I love carrying the old style folding knives. My father, his father....just something about having one in the pocket. I am a fan of Victorinox, Wenger, Barlow and the traditional 3 blade Buck knives. I use small Velcro pouch for some, others just slip in the pocket. When I don't have any knife on me I just don't feel right.
Well said, Damon. The main reason to carry a traditional pocketknife, which these guys don't even mention, is small size. I've been carrying a Victorinox Tinker longer than these two have been alive. I don't even notice it when it's in my pocket, but I sure notice if it's not.
I feel the same. I almost feel naked without some sort of knife in my pocket. And if I don’t have a knife I find myself instinctively reaching for one and being disappointed when I don’t feel one. It’s gotten that way with my other EDC items but mostly with my knives.
Damon Griffin Same goes here. I hate being without my knife.
I’ve started caring a beautiful yellow case sodbuster Junior. I keep it in my back pocket. Yes it’s much slower than my other tactical style modern knives but there’s something about the feel of it in my hand and the enjoyment of just opening it up and cutting with it that makes it worthwhile carrying.
Man, I miss Ben. His content creation was off the charts!
I've carried a rancher since I was 6; dad said a gentleman wasn't dressed without a knife.
Al Prather- Sounds like great words, more should think this way.
I can definitely attest to this; if I don't have at least one knife on me I feel naked, usually i have at least two.
HerosMuse weird american
In my family, you aren't allow to start carrying a pocket knife until you turn 5, so that's when grandpa gives you one. Been carrying a 2 or 3-blade folder ever since.
That was exactly the same thing my Father told me on my 7th birthday when he handed me my brand new Old Timer 80T that I've carried most of my life back in '77
Old time pocket knives are tools and were never intended to be used in self defense situations...
Self defense with a knife is an awful idea anyway.
My Karate instructor used to tell me, "In case of fight with knives, the person who wins is the one who died in the hospital."
depends on the knife, and the situation. for self defense, if you get into the situation of face a knife wielding attacker... you screwed up. then to get out of that situation, maybe a disarm opportunity will arise, maybe a simple kick and run will work. or maybe playing dumb a while... every one behaves differently.... sometimes simply standing there eyes out of focus to observe the wider picture so to speak and maybe turkey necking like jack sparow does in the pirates movies is enough for the person to lose interest. unless there simply rushing wildly. your best bet is to just avoid it. otherwise GTFO or protect your vitals, and make em pay for ther mistakes. no making the first move once they have the drop on you, taunt or poke at them sure but don't commit till they move in for the attack.
karate does mean empty hand after all. lol. "proper knife fighting" whatever that is. I think of knife fighting I usually think of iether movie nonsense punks trying shit they don't understand or going savage and doing as much damage to themselves as there target or people who actually have some understanding of how to use a tool such as a knife, and they either never use it in a fight or slaughter there enemies... In reality Most "Tactical/combat knives? are not very effective for combative use. some times to they have some intimidation factor or maybe pain complaiance. but in a kill or be killed situation. better off using a rock.
Andrew Nyberg pulling a knife to de escalate a situation is a bad idea because you may be pulling it out on a concealed carry holder with a GUN
Andrew Nyberg I can second this. Just pulling out my case stockman (sometimes not even opening it) has saved my ass on multiple occasions.
I carry my knife that my grandfather gave me when I was 5 or 6. He passed in 2012, so I carry it to remember him.
another thing , my favorite cutting tool to carry are children's safety scissors, i purchased a pair at menards for 65 cents, they are not tactical or offensive in any way, they're lime green, they cut really well, really good for cutting out leaves, sticks, and thorn vines from my dogs thick fur, thats why i started to carry them in the first place, My Golden Puppy had a sharp thorn vine stuck to his hind leg and tail, all i had was a Spyderco knife and he just would not hold still, I barley got the vine free with the knife without cutting my self. what I really Needed were non pointed scissors, I carry them every time im around dogs. saved a few dogs from thorn vines since. tactical isn't always practical -- cheers!
There's nothing more traditional than a victorinox even the modern ones with the classic red scales still traditional
Let's RANT good show
especially if we grew up watching MC Gyver
you misspelled useless
I agree. I carry a victorinox spirit and a victorinox champion for edc. Lots of great tools to have on you. I still like carrying a mid size "pocket knife" something with a lock and somthing just under 3 inches. (What my state allows). For my edc pocket knives, I switch it up from the $30-$60 price range. Just a knife I can beat on. while I still have my multi tool and my swiss army knife for other tasks.
Let's RANT o work at a restaurant we have a giant machete type of knife it's amazing. Edit I meant to say it was that brand lol
I carry a Buck folding knife, affordable and I like the old fashioned look/ feel 😎
@max wheeler 80% made in the USA..... :(
Buck 110 on my belt most times if I'm wearing jeans
I carry a buck 327 carbon fiber with a worn look.
I frequently carry an Opinel. Mainly for nostalgia and you hit it on the head when you talked about how it's not threatening. When I was doing my MBA I actually took it out in class to cut up an apple. Still got looks, but not because they thought it was scary...just odd lol
I like the traditional knife because it’s compact, sharpens easily (no high tech steel) and they look great. You can clean a trout or dove or quail and also cut a summer sausage or a steak with a Texas toothpick for instance. What is a tanto blade good for by comparison?
I thought you were dead Mr. Twain 😂
I carry a traditional pocket knife for whittling. I found that modern knifes are uncomfortable for wood carving.
My dad always said: "Every man needs to have a good knife." But if I'm honest, the real reason why my grandpa carried a folder was because the mentality was: it's a versatile tool (which it is).
Most guys nowadays, carry more based on the "weapon first, tool second" mentality due to the times we live in. I've never seen my grandfather pull out his knife in a self defense situation. I have however, seen it in his hands majority of the time when we were working on the ranch.
Christopher Mafnas I agree👍🏻
Yeah some knives are just losing more and more functionality
I have carried a traditional pocket knife since I was a kid. I have many traditional pocket knives, they are easy to carry and some even fit into the small pocket of my jeans. I use the pocket knife everyday to cut hay bale string or open packages. Thanks for the video fellas keep up the great work
My dad has always carries knives and i am just getting into collecting them. I really enjoy the old style knives for reliability and looks. There is nothing that beats a jigged bone handle.
Cadet is the best you can buy it's my edc along with a mix of other large folders. SAK all day!
I have always carried a Buck 110. Its big and heavy but it can be used for multiple tasks. Buck offers a lifetime warranty which is a plus. The knife only cost $50. And the blade is stainless steel. It will shower sparks from a ferro rod with its 90 degree spine. But it makes a great edc and its a nice looking knife.
Anybody old school carry's these knives cause dad and grandpa carried them and passed them down
I carry a 1950s Kamp King in my left pocket. I carry it because it’s fun to play with and since it’s scout pattern (knife, caplifter screwdriver, can opener, awl) I fits the niche of multi tool and knife. I can open a box and I can pop open your beer around the campfire.
Utility is the word that they can't seem to find. Two or three blades suitable for all manner of real world everyday uses. If you are going to carry a weapon then carry a weapon, a traditional pocket knife is a tool that you can most always have with you.
I love the Case folders. The old ones are the best. I like canoes, they just disappear in your pocket. I also like the whittlers, half whittlers and stockman patterns. Lots of good good old knives still out there, made in the USA and Germany. Also I like the Tobaco congress pattern, 4 blades in one knife. Lots of good memories with the traditional knives, especially whittling. You can't whittle with a tactical knife, and you only have one blade, a dull one blade knife is not a good thing. That's what I think, DC.
The reason I carry a traditional knife is because have you ever tried to peel an apple with a modern folder it just doesn't work as well
Terry Hester lol is this sarcasm or what?
Terry Hester lol is this sarcasm or what?
Why would you peel an apple anyway? Just wash off the grime and bite into it.
Love the Case knife, Boker, Camillus and Hen & Rooster. LOVE the old, traditional knives, and I carry a Case medium stockman daily.
I have one actually. I bought it kind of broken for about 2€ and restored it. Now I carry this little boy everyday and everywhere in my right pocket. I personally use it to some light knife tasks, sawing some little sticks (it has a "saw" on the back) and I open bottles when no lighters around.
My EDC is a Kershaw khaki locking knife for special occasions and casual dress times I carry the SAK my son got me in Switzerland bought at a shop outside the Victorinox factory. Best son ever. Still have my first SAW bought in Hawaii as a soldier 35 years ago looks rough but still a trooper.
I really enjoy the knife banter series. The hosts really compliment each other. And Ben makes it rain!
The Buck Knife 110 is what I think of when I think about a traditional knife. My dad had one, I just bought one for that reason. Great video, I think a simple belt sheath makes the traditional knives a bit more inviting. Thanks 🙏
I got my first pocket knife in 1962 for my 8th birthday. It was a Boker boy scout model. I have never been without a knife in my pocket since then. (I'm pushing 70). For me, the transition from traditional "grandpa" knives to more modern features happened during my Army years (early 70s) when I acquired a Buck Model 110 at the PX. Not a pocket knife, but Army regs at the time did not prohibit us from carrying the 110 on our belts. What really caught my attention was the locking blade. Much safer, especially for heavy use situations. Buck lead the way with lock blade pocket knives like the 501 Squire, which I carried for many years. It had the lock but also a smooth, traditional finish which made it comfortable to carry in my front pocket. By this time I was working white collar and when I did pull it out to open mail, cut string, etc. nobody got nervous. Since then, I have had a wide assortment of pocket knives, but always with some kind of lock. I came to appreciate the one hand openers and forward assist mechanisms. (I lived in Oregon when the Court of Appeals threw out all criminal restrictions against anything that could be construed as a "switch blade", which meant I could carry those knives in my front pocket without worrying about concealed weapons charges. It's no coincidence the Bench Made is an Oregon corporation.) However, I have never been a fan of clips on pocket knives. They only contribute to pocket congestion. Whenever I get a new pocket knife, the clip is always removed and tossed aside. Possibly the defining difference between us Boomers grandpas and the upstart Gen X/Millennial knife enthusiasts.
I carry an original Buck 110 in the leather belt sheath from time to time. It's vintage to the 70's and belonged to my deceased great uncle who served in WWII. It has personal value and nostalgia plus I like the rustic southern charm of it. Not to mention it's a TOTAL beast of a knife... like a folding hunter. I love it. I of course do also own tactical folders and fixed blades as well.
In response to your request for info on why some people carry traditional pocket knives. Being 50 I grew up carrying "traditional" pocket knives and I've never fully made the switch to modern single blade designs. I own several Including some high end blades and for self defense and general purpose cutting (box opening, cutting bailing twine etc.) they can't be beat. Having said that, the traditional multi-blade design gives me options that the single blade knives can't. My favorite traditional design is the three blade stockman. I keep the spey blade sharpened on a very shallow angle and use it strictly for its intended purpose. The sheepfoot blade is sharpened on a slightly greater angle used for general cutting and whittling . Lastly, the clip blade is sharpened at roughly 20 degrees and for the most part is used for cutting food when eating outdoors. It can be argued that I could use a single blade for all these things but it is hard to keep a blade scalpel sharp, as I do my spey blade, when cutting cardboard.
Interesting, I may have to try this :). When I worked outside for years I gave up my Swiss Army knife for a single blade. It would get beaten up pretty fast and occasionally make precise work challenging. Wonder if having multiple blades on hand would have made my life a bit easier
I'm 62 yrs old , I've carried a pocket knife my whole life , case is my brand but I have many knives for different uses . You asked why , in my world a grown man carries a knife , I feel incomplete without one .
I have slip joints and I have automatic’s and one thing I never think about is what people think
17 minutes and absolutely no good look at any knife, traditional or otherwise, and zero information. Just rambling on and glimpses of some kind of knives
Yep. Kind of ridiculous
They need to shoot some closeups before or after main shoot and then edit in the shots as B roll during the conversation.
The show is called knife banter
SuperGoldnut Thanks, I’ll check them out.
I’d also say that if they want to sell the knives they’re showing, and they have them in inventory, why not list the exact names in the cellar?
I carry an opinel. I use it for eating. I go out and get a steak, their knives are always crap. So, that is that..... lol
I used to do that with a Spyderco Military. Boy, do you ge weird looks when you draw your own knife to compensate for the crap you get at some restaurants.
William Claypoole yeah, just weird Americans
I hate steak knives at restaurants. they're not sharp enough and you end up with a stack of jerky chew looking crumbs that get stuck in your teeth. i always use my knife and I always get looks like I'm going to stab the waiter
***** no, an Opinel is what I'd expect a sheep herder to carry. Top hat and monocle carries some custom gentleman's knife, or perhaps a Laguiole.
i've always carried a case stockman tool and it has served me well ranch, simi wireing, etc .
The Buck 110 and the Case Sodbuster are my two favorite knives in my collection and get the most carry time, I love them both.
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I know I'm late to the party since this video is 8 months old, but I just ran across it and wanted to comment on your question about why carry an "traditional" pocket knife. I've got a few years on your guys being 61. I've carried a pocket knife since I was 8. My wife would tell you I have a knife fetish. My collection is approaching 100 knives and most are folders. About half of those are in my carry rotation. I carry my Case and Victorinox knives for a few reasons. One big consideration for me is how I'm dressed and what my planned activities for the day may be. If I'm wearing a suit or slacks and spending the day in the office, going to the theater or a out for a nice dinner I'll carry one of my smaller "traditional" knives without a clip. If I'm going to be out on a construction project site, working on my farm, hiking, and dressed for outdoor activities I mostly carry one of my Benchmades with the 940 being my favorite. So in short it is situational, but sometimes I'll grab my Case Mini-Trapper or Full Whittler even if I'm wearing jeans and spending time outdoors just because they are cool and almost a work of art.
My first Benchmade was a 940-1. I absolutely love it. The action...the axis lock. It just flies out of the pocket. Into action and out of action so damn fast. Best knife ever essentially.
You guys are awesome.
I used to carry an old Barlow folder with a coping blade.
but that was before cell phones, and I kept it in my left front pocket.
All by itself, so easy to reach in and grab.
I did end up losing that knife, which made me very sad.
Now I carry the Kershaw Outlier, clipped on the right front pocket with easy ring grab access.
Fun stuff!
I like victorinox it's quite possible that it's the best thing out there for an everyday person who doesn't work in environments involving physical work with tools
Stealthinator139 so basically, you don't need a knife? Haha
I carry a cheap little knife that came with an Outdoor Canada magazine subscription, that my Grandpa gave to me. Its very slim, small and non-threatening, and it has an incredibly sharp point. I like carrying it on occasions where a big, "scary" knife isn't appropriate and even though it's a piece of crap I love it.
I've carried buck, case. Now I carry victranox farmer. I love it. Use the awl more than I ever thought I would
Victorinox farmer is looked over too much that's a real working blade
I love the craftsmanship the feel and weight. Traditional pocket knives are beautiful and get a lot admiration from people who appreciate quality and beauty in a stag handle knife .My personal favorites are Boker ,Case , Uncle Henry and Old Timer .
NEVER carry Grandpas knife, or ANY knife with family value. Always carry a midpriced knife so if Anything happens to it ( gets lost,stolen,broken,ect) then it's No big deal, buy another . Always keep Expensive knives and family heirlooms in a good safe place.
A knife is a tool, its meant to be used
Just buy the same model again and smile like your granddad does. Did this with my victorinox ... love it.
I carried a sebenza until one day I thought I lost it.
Solid advice
Bah. I carry grandpa's knife all the time. Be damn sure that HE would prefer I carry and use it rather than lock it away in a safe or place it up on a shelf. Using it brings me joy and is conversation. A reminder of the man every day.
I'm 16 and I've been carrying traditional pocketknives my whole life. I absolutely love them.
How do you deal with this in school?
Noah Colburn your whole life? So what like 3 or 4 years? Lol
Keeper Boy33. I carried a pocket knife my whole school time, never got asked about or nothing. Don't act like an idiot pretty much. Also went to a very small town school
I'm going to be 10 real soon so I've probaly been collecting 1 year 1 year mark
@@jonesmcnamara you don't have to bring it school
I have carried a Buck Esquire for over 40 yrs. I carry in my pocket and especially in the watch pocket of my jeans. I have used it for work, for eating, for food prep, and much more.
I rock the Case Mako in a belt pouch. My grandfather got it for me as a gift a number of years ago and it is the best knife I've every had. Perfect size very very well made and I'm confident it will last my whole life with minimal maintenance. Looking forward to passing it on to my son some day.
One of the best places to carry a pocket knife is the watch pocket in your jeans
SurvivorTurtle My personal favorite spot
andy cooper same
That's where I carry my Zippo... Case lockback in my back pocket. I DO have a couple of Granddad's knives though...
SurvivorTurtle my edc for self defense is a stiletto that I keep in that pocket. I always sharpen both sides, add a stronger spring, oil it up, remove the clip(because it’s not needed when carried in that pocket) and I’m set.
The right side mini pocket is where I put my knives depending on size.
I LOVE case knives
People give them crap for rusting easy. IT'S BECAUSE THEY USUALLY USE HIGH CARBON STEEL. IF YOU DON'T OIL IT IT'S GOING TO RUST
I carry a Rite Edge Gold Series Alaskan Locking Foldable Knife, and I love it. Perfect for fishing
My EDC knife is a Buck 110 and i absolutely love it. It's a pure classic. 💪🏻
Buck 110. It’s sturdy, affordable and there’s no shortage of old men that’ve carried the same one for 40 years. You can’t beat that quality for $40
For sure, I carry mine in the provided sheath
no you cant beat the auto 110 for 140!
Prefer a 501
I carry a traditional pocket knife for cutting things. It's small. It's just a tool, not for self defense. I don't need to be able to "whip it out".
Neither do these idiots honestly.
please do not whip it out lol
I used to carry a traditional folder. I just threw it in my pocket like everyone else. Now I have a karambit!
3 blade (Schrade) “old timer” stockman, here. Bone handle, Nice, large clip point. Quite a few decades on it. A bit pitted, now..well used . I’m 73
Ive had an old Barlow in my pocket and a Buck 110 on my hip for the last 30+ years. Never needed anything else.
James Straub are the scales gone off your barlow because one day on our old properties in this old tool box I found my grandfathers (on my dads side) kife a barlow tarnished but still good I loosened her up but the scales were gone. by some coincidence after my grandfather (on my mothers side) passed away I found a barlow of the same model and make as my other grandfathers, in a box my grandma gave me and it was in a better condition but it also didnt have any scales on it, so this is why I ask. and if you do still have scales were they wood and what type.
Alot of knives like that had rosewood scales. Kinda exotic, but you can find it at any woodworking store like woodcraft or Lee Valley.
thatIlluminati _ to be honest I was just curious to know if this is an issue everyone had with the barlow. Did it have bad scales or did everyone just dig them off because they were uncomfortable to hold ir something like that im not really into relaceing them because I have no idea what they would have even have been shaped like.
I was given an old Barlow from my grandpa when I was younger it's a great knife I just carry it in case I need it for something.
My Victorinox Workchamp XL has been on my pocket for every day carry every single day for years now and there's rarely a day where I don't use it. It's the perfect big knife for a big dude.
I carry a Case trapper mainly because of looks and size. It’s not too small that it gets lost in my pocket but not too big that it’s weighing me down. I use the straight blade for cutting food like a block of cheese and I use the pointed blade for things like opening boxes
I carry a 194-64 Case XX 5375 & I can promise you won’t loose it in your pocket and its worth or costed enough money for me to never loose it and it’s built right plus looks amazing
Victorinox Swiss army knife or bust
Yes amen