FYI, I was able to get this to work without compressor out or DaVinci Resolve 19 by setting the DolbyVision profile to 8.4. Seemed to work with PQ or HLG, depending on your monitoring scenario. Thanks for the video Max!
"... if you are using Premiere and you're wondering how you can follow along, the answer is to stop using inferior software." LOL 🤣😂 Loved that line!!!
Appreciate it. I had to figure it out myself couple months ago, but i still clicked on your video to see the process as i thought there might be something to learn more and i actually learned about that Dolby vision tab to check preview in sdr, it was totally new to me. You've done it amazingly. Keep up the great work. Really looking forward to see your channel growing up.
Omg I really enjoyed the vid! That's exactly what I ve been looking for. There is 0 info anywhere about that. That trick with compressor I will try.. Thank you!
hhaahahahahaha I am not a content creator yet but man this video is educational and funny at the same time and I like it very much. And I am writing it only after 1 minute of watching it. Decent content!
Resolve can export H.265, the problem is it doesn't correctly write the Dolby Vision metadata, that's what Compressor is for and it's the only thing that worked reliably in my testing
Recording in HLG will give you footage straight out of camera that can be viewed in HDR on a compatible screen, you probably still want to color grade it afterwards If you do - that's up to you and your color workflow, I personally prefer log
Because Instagram won't properly interpret the color space, at least at the time of this video's recording. Maybe it's changed since, but I haven't tried it with newer versions of DaVinci
Dolby tab is only available on Studio I think, but it's not necessary for grading, just SDR preview M1 Air won't work though, it doesn't have an HDR panel, only MacBook Pros and iPad Pro 12" do
@@MaxRovensky thanks a lot. I just used my iphone to see how it looks. I uploaded it. It looks awesome. Until i check it on Android devices. It looks so bad and washed out. Anything I can do for that ?
@@MaxRovensky Davinci in Windows does not even support Prores natively... I was able to export HDR from both DaVinci and After Effects and my iPhone recognizes it as HDR; however, Instagram keeps downgrading to SDR... so was wondering if the missing part is the Apple Compressor format to be more IG friendly.... thanks
@@MaxRovensky hey, thanks for getting back, so you used Dolby Vision 8.4 for CZcams? I looked at their upload guidelines and it said only HDR 10 and Rec 2020? I’ll do a test later today and see what happens. You obviously did a lot of work figuring this out. Thanks for that.
@@javajack-1 might be outdated, I'm not sure, but now that iPhone has been supporting Dolby recording for a few years they kinda have to support it properly, would be odd of they didn't
hdr hlg sucks, go to hdr PQ. better dynamic range, and your samsung s23 ultra records in that. and your samsung and lg tv plays it. not a fan boy, just like the best possible
So, you are saying that for better results, in project settings, change the Output Color Space to HDR PQ (instead of HDR HLG). All other settings adjustments he described stay the same.
I was referring to using the iPad as a display If you have a 12" M1 iPad Pro, you can turn on "Reference Mode" and use it as an external display via Sidecar, which will support HDR output on latest versions of macOS and iPadOS
Max, don't want to consume your time, but using your workflow for Apple devices, Dolby Vision 8.4 through Compressor, doesn't upload on CZcams as HDR. How the heck are you doing it? This video of yours looks great, the highlights of the lighting in your room, etc. Anyway, the only thing that seems to work for me is H265 out of Davinci Resolve using HDR 10+ tone mapping. It doesn't look as good, as bright in the highlights as Dolby Vision. Anyway, if you have any other incites, let me know. Thanks,
Honestly I'm not sure I edited this video with the same Resolve settings I'm showing in the project setup section, exported it as ProRes and ran it through Compressor I'll try a test clip in the morning and see if it works differently now, but that's all I did 🤷🏻♂️
This is super usefull, BUT I saw some your HDR reels and for me is not worth. Compressor does an horrible job handling bitrate. Too much blocky pixels, there must be a way to export it directly good to go from davinci
That's Instagram, not Compressor When you upload, instagram generates like 3 or 4 versions and it decides which one to show you based on a bunch of factors like network speed, low power setting, battery level, alignment of stars, Mosseri's mood that morning, etc
Just watched the video and I should say, other than the technical side of grading HDR is totally inaccurate, one thing you do REALLY good here is the use of Compressor to send the HDR and DoVi metadata to a format Instagram recognize as HDR with the proper tone mapping, which somehow, isn’t something that works even with files coming straight from Davinci Resolve. I actually went through that whole process a few months ago also trying to figure out how to get it to work. For people reading, to properly grade HDR, you will want a dedicated HDR reference monitor WITH an IO box like the Blackmagic Decklink or Ultrastudio. Without it, there is absolutely no way for you to preview HDR content inside of Davinci Resolve properly. The Macbook Pro XDR display is NOT a reference monitor and you will run in issues at one point such as gamma shift or saturation issues. Another issue that will happen here is the decent HDR monitors suitable for HDR grading unfortunately are still insanely expensive. The cheapest option would be run a LG C2 TV and calibrate it using Calman Ultimate and a Xrite i1 Plus. And even this is pretty expensive and still not 100% ideal. That being said, good job on the video overall! 💪🏼
Well, like I said, I'm not a professional colorist 😂 The good thing about MacBook Pro's 1000nit mode is it will show you exactly what the video would look like on an iPhone that's going to ultimately watch it (you can stretch the meaning of the word "reference" here haha) For someone who just wants to make vibrant reels for IG it's plenty sufficient IMO, I would not recommend people get a $30k reference monitor for that 😅 Thanks for watching 😌🙌🏻
@@MaxRovensky I have the LG C2 and a Blackmagic video assist HDR. And what you explained in the video is very correct. In fact, you will never be able to see the highlights on the LG C2 as you can on an iPhone, precisely because of the lack of brightness (nits) on this TV. the LG C2 is only a good cheap option for color reference, if calibrated correctly. The way he explained it, enabling the HDR preview and watching it on the MacBook as a reference, will have exactly the same image that people will see madly on their respective iPhones. Thank you very much for the tutorial, this is the kind of people we need here, not the “wizards” who hide everything!
Hi! I tried doing something similar with Final Cut -- I recorded by footage on the iPhone 13 Pro Max in 4k 60fp HDR. Tried uploading some of these HDR clips without any modifications or edits whatsoever as standalone clips. They showed up as HDR for a hot second, but quickly went back to being in SDR after I refresh my feed after upload. They also don't show up as HDR when I view my test account's reels from my main account. I checked the clips and confirmed that they were HEVC files in 4K, 60FPS, using the BT.2020 HLG color space with Dolby Vision support, and had a bitrate of 50mbps. I also tried sending some clips with the same stats to my MacBook, put them together in Final Cut Pro, and used Compressor to export them as HEVC 4k 50FPS bt.2020 HLG Dolby vision files with bitrates of 50mbps. They simply don't show up as HDR on IG at all, even after a few hours of waiting for any back-end processing to take place on IG's server. I can def view these clips in HDR on my MacBook and my iPhone. any idea why this might be the case? I also confirmed my account has the "high quality uploads" enabled, and made sure not to apply any edits within the IG app, and used a high speed internet connection.
I should also mention that I confirmed my Final Cut Libraries, Events, and Projects were all set to Wide-Gamut HDR, with the correct bt.2020 HLG color space selected.
Instagram has a lot of ways for determining what video asset to show you. When you upload something, it generates like 3-5 different versions and you get one based on factors like are you in low power mode, do you have sufficient network speed, etc I've uploaded a number of reels in HDR and some of them took a few hours to show up, some randomly stopped being HDR for a day and then went back the next day, it's just how the platform works. If you upload it in HDR and person viewing it is deemed by Instagram to be "worthy" of seeing it in HDR - they will
I’m been having the same issue uploading HDR to Instagram. Mine are HDR when I post and I get a banner upper left that says HDR, but when I come back later they are back to being SDR. I changed my account to creator and also use a test side account. One thing I’ve read is that Instagram is testing HDR and only making it available to influencers with 10k followers. I don’t know if this is true but this could be part of the problem.
Hello. I am on Windows for various reasons. I keep making render HLG and results on IG just oversaturated video. Same file is ok on the Android phone and CZcams. I tried 10bit 420 422 444. App recognizes only 420. I try to enable Dolby Vision on the time line. Nothing changes. I wonder what is so special about iPhone HLG compared to normal HLG. What else can be enabled for Intagram to correctly process files. Maybe it is not possible to upload HLG from Android at all?
I'm really not sure how to do this on Windows because Compressor does the metadata magic needed for Instagram to treat the file properly. Every export setting I've tried straight from DaVinci resulted in it being displayed wrong in some way
FYI, I was able to get this to work without compressor out or DaVinci Resolve 19 by setting the DolbyVision profile to 8.4. Seemed to work with PQ or HLG, depending on your monitoring scenario. Thanks for the video Max!
Where did you set the DolbyVision profile to 8.4 in Resolve 19? I don't see it anywhere and would love to not have to use Compressor.
"... if you are using Premiere and you're wondering how you can follow along, the answer is to stop using inferior software." LOL 🤣😂 Loved that line!!!
Thank you
Jesus Christ, finally! someone making sense of it all. Top job lad
Man, this is the video I was really looking for! Great video!!
Appreciate it. I had to figure it out myself couple months ago, but i still clicked on your video to see the process as i thought there might be something to learn more and i actually learned about that Dolby vision tab to check preview in sdr, it was totally new to me. You've done it amazingly. Keep up the great work. Really looking forward to see your channel growing up.
Omg I really enjoyed the vid! That's exactly what I ve been looking for. There is 0 info anywhere about that. That trick with compressor I will try.. Thank you!
Bro, you're hilarious 🤣 Great video.
ONLY YOU solved my problem! Thank you :D
Great! It works!!! Thanks a lot!!! 😎👍
Holy shit man, the intro title was insane
Nice tutorial! Thank you!
hhaahahahahaha I am not a content creator yet but man this video is educational and funny at the same time and I like it very much. And I am writing it only after 1 minute of watching it. Decent content!
Imagine what would happen if you watched 2 or 3 minutes 😱😁
I'm laughing already at the 0:35. All in all, I'm satisfied.
I don't have the davinci resolve Dolby Vision tab? Do I need to buy studio?
Yes, Dolby Vision requires the Studio version
Is there a way to bypass compressor and export hevc out of DaVinci?
Resolve can export H.265, the problem is it doesn't correctly write the Dolby Vision metadata, that's what Compressor is for and it's the only thing that worked reliably in my testing
Amazing video, do I have to set HLG profile in all cameras
Recording in HLG will give you footage straight out of camera that can be viewed in HDR on a compatible screen, you probably still want to color grade it afterwards
If you do - that's up to you and your color workflow, I personally prefer log
Wait! Why you need prores and not compress in Davinci?
Because Instagram won't properly interpret the color space, at least at the time of this video's recording. Maybe it's changed since, but I haven't tried it with newer versions of DaVinci
Спасибо бро 😎
I have Mac m1 air. is it not possible to edit my videos properly on this device? ı don't see dolby vision section for example
Dolby tab is only available on Studio I think, but it's not necessary for grading, just SDR preview
M1 Air won't work though, it doesn't have an HDR panel, only MacBook Pros and iPad Pro 12" do
@@MaxRovensky thanks a lot. I just used my iphone to see how it looks. I uploaded it. It looks awesome. Until i check it on Android devices. It looks so bad and washed out. Anything I can do for that ?
im a windows/ linux user, I use my samsung tv with hdr10+ it sucks there is no hdr monitor.
Bro? Oled monitors
Great tutorial, but any alternative for DaVinci in Windows?
DaVinci :)
It’s cross platform, you just need to figure out your monitor setup, I can’t help you there
But I’m really not sure about the Compressor
Something similar probably exists on Windows but I’m unaware of it unfortunately
@@MaxRovensky Davinci in Windows does not even support Prores natively... I was able to export HDR from both DaVinci and After Effects and my iPhone recognizes it as HDR; however, Instagram keeps downgrading to SDR... so was wondering if the missing part is the Apple Compressor format to be more IG friendly.... thanks
@@luiscruz0530 Did you figure it out? Having the same issue. Able to export to HDR, phone sees it properly but IG converts it to dull SDR.
@@jitanforcier3598 No, it never worked for me in Windows. I am waiting for IG to release HDR upload Specs (if that ever happens)
Oh, me again, and for your CZcams posts, assume you are using HDR 10 and Rec 2020. It looks very good. Not too many people have this figured out,
This video is exported using the same workflow as demonstrated in the video, CZcams supports it properly now
@@MaxRovensky hey, thanks for getting back, so you used Dolby Vision 8.4 for CZcams? I looked at their upload guidelines and it said only HDR 10 and Rec 2020? I’ll do a test later today and see what happens. You obviously did a lot of work figuring this out. Thanks for that.
@@javajack-1 might be outdated, I'm not sure, but now that iPhone has been supporting Dolby recording for a few years they kinda have to support it properly, would be odd of they didn't
@@MaxRovensky okay, thanks, Max. I’ll run some tests in the next few days and let you know how they go.
hdr hlg sucks, go to hdr PQ. better dynamic range, and your samsung s23 ultra records in that. and your samsung and lg tv plays it. not a fan boy, just like the best possible
So, you are saying that for better results, in project settings, change the Output Color Space to HDR PQ (instead of HDR HLG). All other settings adjustments he described stay the same.
You said I can do it on the iPad but there’s no compressor on the iPad Pro 😢
I was referring to using the iPad as a display
If you have a 12" M1 iPad Pro, you can turn on "Reference Mode" and use it as an external display via Sidecar, which will support HDR output on latest versions of macOS and iPadOS
@@MaxRovensky true
Max, don't want to consume your time, but using your workflow for Apple devices, Dolby Vision 8.4 through Compressor, doesn't upload on CZcams as HDR. How the heck are you doing it? This video of yours looks great, the highlights of the lighting in your room, etc. Anyway, the only thing that seems to work for me is H265 out of Davinci Resolve using HDR 10+ tone mapping. It doesn't look as good, as bright in the highlights as Dolby Vision. Anyway, if you have any other incites, let me know. Thanks,
Honestly I'm not sure
I edited this video with the same Resolve settings I'm showing in the project setup section, exported it as ProRes and ran it through Compressor
I'll try a test clip in the morning and see if it works differently now, but that's all I did 🤷🏻♂️
@@MaxRovensky Thanks a lot Max.
@@MaxRovensky Why not to export directly in Davinci?
This is super usefull, BUT I saw some your HDR reels and for me is not worth. Compressor does an horrible job handling bitrate. Too much blocky pixels, there must be a way to export it directly good to go from davinci
That's Instagram, not Compressor
When you upload, instagram generates like 3 or 4 versions and it decides which one to show you based on a bunch of factors like network speed, low power setting, battery level, alignment of stars, Mosseri's mood that morning, etc
@@MaxRovensky you have to enable on the advanced settings “post with highest resolution”
App name
DaVinci Resolve
Just watched the video and I should say, other than the technical side of grading HDR is totally inaccurate, one thing you do REALLY good here is the use of Compressor to send the HDR and DoVi metadata to a format Instagram recognize as HDR with the proper tone mapping, which somehow, isn’t something that works even with files coming straight from Davinci Resolve. I actually went through that whole process a few months ago also trying to figure out how to get it to work.
For people reading, to properly grade HDR, you will want a dedicated HDR reference monitor WITH an IO box like the Blackmagic Decklink or Ultrastudio. Without it, there is absolutely no way for you to preview HDR content inside of Davinci Resolve properly. The Macbook Pro XDR display is NOT a reference monitor and you will run in issues at one point such as gamma shift or saturation issues. Another issue that will happen here is the decent HDR monitors suitable for HDR grading unfortunately are still insanely expensive. The cheapest option would be run a LG C2 TV and calibrate it using Calman Ultimate and a Xrite i1 Plus. And even this is pretty expensive and still not 100% ideal.
That being said, good job on the video overall! 💪🏼
Well, like I said, I'm not a professional colorist 😂
The good thing about MacBook Pro's 1000nit mode is it will show you exactly what the video would look like on an iPhone that's going to ultimately watch it (you can stretch the meaning of the word "reference" here haha) For someone who just wants to make vibrant reels for IG it's plenty sufficient IMO, I would not recommend people get a $30k reference monitor for that 😅
Thanks for watching 😌🙌🏻
@@MaxRovensky I have the LG C2 and a Blackmagic video assist HDR. And what you explained in the video is very correct. In fact, you will never be able to see the highlights on the LG C2 as you can on an iPhone, precisely because of the lack of brightness (nits) on this TV. the LG C2 is only a good cheap option for color reference, if calibrated correctly. The way he explained it, enabling the HDR preview and watching it on the MacBook as a reference, will have exactly the same image that people will see madly on their respective iPhones. Thank you very much for the tutorial, this is the kind of people we need here, not the “wizards” who hide everything!
Hi! I tried doing something similar with Final Cut -- I recorded by footage on the iPhone 13 Pro Max in 4k 60fp HDR. Tried uploading some of these HDR clips without any modifications or edits whatsoever as standalone clips. They showed up as HDR for a hot second, but quickly went back to being in SDR after I refresh my feed after upload. They also don't show up as HDR when I view my test account's reels from my main account.
I checked the clips and confirmed that they were HEVC files in 4K, 60FPS, using the BT.2020 HLG color space with Dolby Vision support, and had a bitrate of 50mbps.
I also tried sending some clips with the same stats to my MacBook, put them together in Final Cut Pro, and used Compressor to export them as HEVC 4k 50FPS bt.2020 HLG Dolby vision files with bitrates of 50mbps.
They simply don't show up as HDR on IG at all, even after a few hours of waiting for any back-end processing to take place on IG's server. I can def view these clips in HDR on my MacBook and my iPhone.
any idea why this might be the case? I also confirmed my account has the "high quality uploads" enabled, and made sure not to apply any edits within the IG app, and used a high speed internet connection.
I should also mention that I confirmed my Final Cut Libraries, Events, and Projects were all set to Wide-Gamut HDR, with the correct bt.2020 HLG color space selected.
Instagram has a lot of ways for determining what video asset to show you. When you upload something, it generates like 3-5 different versions and you get one based on factors like are you in low power mode, do you have sufficient network speed, etc
I've uploaded a number of reels in HDR and some of them took a few hours to show up, some randomly stopped being HDR for a day and then went back the next day, it's just how the platform works.
If you upload it in HDR and person viewing it is deemed by Instagram to be "worthy" of seeing it in HDR - they will
I’m been having the same issue uploading HDR to Instagram. Mine are HDR when I post and I get a banner upper left that says HDR, but when I come back later they are back to being SDR. I changed my account to creator and also use a test side account. One thing I’ve read is that Instagram is testing HDR and only making it available to influencers with 10k followers. I don’t know if this is true but this could be part of the problem.
Hello. I am on Windows for various reasons.
I keep making render HLG and results on IG just oversaturated video. Same file is ok on the Android phone and CZcams. I tried 10bit 420 422 444. App recognizes only 420. I try to enable Dolby Vision on the time line. Nothing changes.
I wonder what is so special about iPhone HLG compared to normal HLG. What else can be enabled for Intagram to correctly process files. Maybe it is not possible to upload HLG from Android at all?
I'm really not sure how to do this on Windows because Compressor does the metadata magic needed for Instagram to treat the file properly. Every export setting I've tried straight from DaVinci resulted in it being displayed wrong in some way