Diesel Heater Buying Guide - 2023
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- Diesel heaters come in all different shapes, sizes and features. Let's break them down and see what's right for you.
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40 minute, I thought I would be skipping a lot to make it shorter... Nope, I watched the entire video. You absolutely explained everything thoroughly.. THANK YOU. This helped in so many ways for a novice person to these machines to make an absolute informed decision. Awesome video and thank you for sharing the different types, application differences, and lessons you've learned. 👍
So glad it was helpful.
Agreed! He was honest, and thorough, and speaks to my level of intelligence and understanding. This video gave me a lot to think about.
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BAHAHAHAHA. I see what you did there. 😂
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I really appreciate comprehensive guides like these from people who have actually used multiple makes/models of a device, as opposed to the abundance of reviews from people who have only owned one. I've gone back and referenced your power station buyers guide more than once, and I'm sure I'll end up doing the same with this one
You need to take a speaking course it’s very poor!
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I purchased the second one the 5K. I have run this unit for the last three years to warm my greenhouse on cold nights around two to three months a year. The fuel pump that came with the unit failed after a few months. It is very easy to replace. On full hot; it will burn a tank in 12hrs about 1.5 gallons. The lower you run it, the less fuel it consumes, but it also is less dependable to stay running. Heats a 10x12x8 greenhouse when the temp is 25 degrees F to around 80 F. Nice and toasty.
I applaud your honest straight forward video. It certainly gives a accurate overview of what to expect from these heaters.
Great review!! Just ordered my vevor today off amazon for my new years run I’m doing in a few weeks. Pretty excited for a nice upgrade from my buddy heater we used last year 👍🏼
I built my own and fabricated it up into a Harbor Frieght case. It works perfectly as well. I ran into some of the same issues you did with Bluetti but I found a amp controller that I can now plug into the Bluetti power and that actually works to power it up off the Bluetti. I even added extra fans in my case to combat overheating using 12 volt PC fans. Works like a champ. Let me know if your interested in learning more I have photos and such of my build. First time doing one and it turned out great.
I’m interested. Please share !
Fantastic video. Way more than I expected in terms of info and details. Cheers and happy camping!
Thanks for another awesome video Matt! I bought the tool box style Hcalory 8kw diesel heater a month ago and have been testing it out before taking it out on an adventure. So far it has performed perfectly for hours at a time. Happy with the purchase but thanks for your advice on diesel heaters in your previous videos. Keep the videos coming 💪🏻
So genuinely thrilled to hear about your positive experience with the Hcalory 8kw diesel heater!😍😍 It sounds like it's going to serve you well on your upcoming adventures. Your feedback means a lot and it's always nice to get validation that the product recommendations are working well for viewers like you. Stay cozy and safe travels on your adventures!
I just bought a vevor box style heater, and love it. I did put 2x4s on it to raise it up, does great.
Thank you for making this video, is is very helpful
Thank you for the info and another great video !! Your channel rocks !!!
Great video I found useing a 4” hose has been better on air flow on the outlet and less chance for overheating thanks for sharing😊
Great video! very helpful info before I pick one up. Thank you Sir!
Very useful. Thank you!
Great video learned a lot
Very helpful. Thanks!
Thanks for the reviews 👍
Thank you for this video! It is like you were reading our mind! We are looking to buy one, but we have never had one and we were lost! I was going to buy the VEVOR, but hubby said we don't know enough about them. We live in deep south Louisiana, so we will not need it all of the time, but it gets cold in North Louisiana and in Arkansas. We froze on our first trip to the Ozarks in the RTT, the Ikamper has that aluminum floor and I was so cold. Woke up the next morning and sat in my Bronco with the heat on high and heated seats on!
I like your tips, the first 8:23 it's continues "working" after turn off, then look after. And the other 9:53 the hose outputs and overheating issues. Thank you so much for sharing.
Really informative video 👌
In racing fuel tanks we put foam blocks made to live in fuel. This keeps down the sloshing from side to side driving. Foam baffles for fuel tanks may help with the sudden slosh for offroading.
Great video!
Thanks for explaining in detail. Do you happen to have a link for the 4x3 adapters and what type of collapsable hose you all use ?
Can it be out in a rain if you have it sitting outside and have the power back inside? Does the rain hurt it?
thanks for this, I picked up the vevor style on ebay myself last night for $66 shipped the 2-4 day shipping.
What kind/size of power station would
Be needed to run the hcalory one for weekend camping trips?
Matt, in regards to the leaking fuel from the vent on the lid. At first after seeing your tape fix, I thought of attaching a short, 3 to 4” , fuel line over the vent hole.. so sloshing f it el would only escape to essentially a smal tubular reservoir where it could drain back in. But then went searching on Amazon and found fuel caps that look to be more or less the same lid without a vent. About $8. My heater is supposed be delivered today. I will measure the diameter after receiving it. If the measurements are the same, I’ll order one for when traveling. I can’t add a photo on here. This could be a good discovery.
We bought the Vevor (the short square one) from Home Depot last year (They were on sale at a crazy discount
I am having this same issue. Can you put a link to the converter you got?
Curious myself
@@DaltonGeeehave you tried anything?
Lets try this again... YT doesn't seem to like active links, just search "ANYTITI LED Driver,LED Power Supply IP67 Waterproof Output 150W DC12V 12.5A 3-Prong Plug 4.5feet " (without the quotes)
Please let us know what you used to fix
Just a question here I was wondering if you can take the control off the vevor with the high altitude and just install the control on your other one and would that work
Where is the best to install airfilter?
Inside the room or outside?
Is the machine have sensor to measure air temp to adjust heat coming out.
Thanks for the video. Have you or anyone had the experience of the diesel heater air in your tent leaving a weird taste in your mouth or throat? I’ve used mine about 5 different times and it has happed every single time.
Planar is a competitor for Pelican. Close quality, some differences. They have made fishing tackle boxes and copies of GI ammunition boxes for a long time.
Hey, did you build any kind of weather protection for your diesel heater located outside? From what I read, the screen/the heater itself can get damaged easily if exposed to rain or snow
I will be very interested to read your review of the Planar heater, especially to see if you think it is worth the hefty price tag. I have owned the self contained Planar 4KW unit for about 2 years and when I bought it I could not find lower cost options like what are available now. My heater works great but I have had some issues with various power sources not being compatible, using other output tubes (did not try a larger diameter one though, I like that idea), fuel cap leaked (I got a second cap and plugged it with JBWeld), but it definitely makes cold weather camping a lot more comfortable and dry.
Do you think a Jackery Explorer 500 would be able to power the Vevor 8kw? I really don't want to get another solar generator. Thanks
My friend have a Planar. His was heating comfortably a 66'' wide soft shell RTT and the annex at -15c at ''max'. My Vevor ''8 kw'' is doing the same thing almost at max. In my experience, both are almost a 5 kw. They are so much a game changer, that my wife is willing to give a try for one night!!
Hey man I appreciate the detailed review. I think lots of viewers could find it beneficial if you had chapters to a video this long though!
Which one would be best for heating my EV ?
You mentioned some do not like some12V power supplies. Is this simply a matter of sufficient voltage and current?
From what Ive been told the intake filter is not a actually a filter, its a restrictor to balance the flow with the muffler if you run one without the other you are much more likely to get overheating errors. the same is true if you lengthen the exhaust hose.
I have the toolbox style Hcalory. It says in the specs that it auto adjusts for altitude. I have not tested that feature yet though.
Power on the state while holding down Set button and power button 3s into the project mode, the upper right corner shows the current project, the interface shows the specific data under the project, rotate the (knob) to adjust the project. Then you can adjust the Altitude [top left corner at En06 （this operation is in the page 004 of the user manual)
LOL, I already bought mine!
what is the different air volume and speed from the 5kw and 8 kw at the same temp??
Good video! Do any of these heaters have a thermostat to control temperature or do they just run constantly till you shut it off?
You set the pump speed from 1-10 and that’s the temperature control.
You can buy a Bureck CD that will replace the remote and give you true thermostat control. Bureck is a guy out of Idaho.
$50 to $70 depending on wired or wireless model.
It clones the stock remote of most Chinese units.
The startup surge can be up to 160W. That can exceed the amperage of 12V 12A circuit. The power banks may have 10A or 12A limits on the 12V plug. The solution is to use a 120V to 12V converter. The power bank will handle the 160'ish Watts on 120V just fine.
Pecron and Bkuetti have power banks with 30A 12V Anderson or XT60 connectors that resolve this.
Curious how much aftermarket support you will be receiving from the now defunct expensive unit?
I have a question that could also be a video content idea. What are the top 5 winter time WARM weather overland trails. Is that possible?
Thanks!
Thanks so much!!!
Hey Matt, thanks for the great review. I was wondering what power stations you were having trouble with. I have a Jackery 500 that I use on most of my trips. Do you think that would be sufficient to run any of the Vevor 5-8 watt? We have been using the buddy heaters up to this point. We are definitely looking forward to the upgrade.
I've had issues with the EcoFlow River 2 Pro and the new Bluetti AC70. Not sure on the Jackery.
You need a unit that can do 20A off of the 12V output to handle the surge inrush. A few power stations have Anderson or XT60 outputs for 30A of 12V output.
Pecron's E1500LFP and several Bluetti units have this capability.
Thank you for the info. That is a lot of good data. I may have missed it but what was the name of the app? Thank you .
AirHeaterbyBLE
I use a 2kw in a 15ft camper, down to -7 so far. Stays plenty warm, down to 32 I need a window open to keep from getting too hot. Below that, it's closing and starting to insulate windows. Haven't even had to use anything but the lowest setting yet.
Question. Does anyone make a portable watt meter for 12 volts DC instead of 120 volts AC? It would be great if we could see total 12 volts DC watts used over time. Thank you in advance.
Hiiii
I have the smell of burning rubber, plastic, or smelly air outside the room, even though the machine is on the balcony...
Your guidance much appreciated
ON YOUR HCALARY TRY HOLDING THE LIGHT AND OK BUTTONS FOR 3 SEC FOR ALPINE WORKED ON MINE STILL TRING TO FIND BLUETOOTH THOUGH
My biggest con is the ticking. I have two in my conqueror 490. And that ticking takes a while to get used to or ignore.
Can you recommend a good video on this topic?
The small 2Kw heater - can it be mounted vertically (90 degrees from how you have it on the table)?
I'm not sure. I've never seen one done vertical.
Thanks for the breakdown. This has helped me in what to look for in a diesel heater.
Video 10:36 ur front cap is 3ich with 4 iches pipe?
Will the 2 work on a Teardrop? The inside is basically the size of a queen size bed.
I’m sure it would.
What is the part/model number for the Vevor unit on your far right side? The up right one. As I would like to purchase this heater.
link is in the description
Do any of yours have a smell to the heated air? Mine has an order to it still after a few hours of burn time.
Yes mine has a bad burned rubber smell. I tried changing the gaskets and cleaning the burn chamber but it hasn’t fixed the issue.
Nice
Get the gas can vent caps. Stainless with orings
The 8kw heat from the exchanger to air is totally false but it would be interesting to know what the true combined heat output of the whole unit is if the exhaust output is also included......there is a lot of heat goes out via the burner exhaust. My guess is that the total output from exhaust and heat exchanger combined may well be in the 5kw ball park.
great video alot of good stuff to know by the way great hair cut nice colors but thank you very much did not know about eveything you talk about but great to know
Might try running th 5k and 8k heaters with a set amount of feul and compare run times at full power to verify that they are the same output. the 8k should burn significly more if it is actually 8k
it does it has a bigger fuel pump n thats were the extra heat comes from more fuel more heat .
Can you have it in the camper and have the exhaust going outside and run it inside with your power pack.
Yes
This may be a dumb question. I am in MS and new to diesel heaters. I usually don’t camp cold.
Is there a version of a “diesel” heater that uses propane as opposed to diesel? If I am already carrying propane to cook (10lbs), it would be good to use it for heat too.
I have a roof top tent and don’t want a buddy heater.
Propex makes one.
Propane heaters are notorious for condensation issues.
You get very high humidity produced with direct heat propane heaters which will make clothes and fabrics feel damp and if used inside a caravan will cause streams of condensation on the windows. Also there is a need to have sufficient ventilation and a Carbon monoxide sensor/alarm with direct propane heaters to use safely. The diesel heaters are heating air via a heat exchanger so no issues with fumes,Carbon Monoxide or condensation.
Did you check the cfm of air being moved between the 5k and 8k? That could be your difference, might not….
The diesel heater on your far left, the one with the side attached exposed fuel tank. When you showed a close up of the display it showed that the heater had thermostat control and I want that for my wife's greenhouse. Would you give me a link (it seems this is the only heater you are showing that does not have a link) to this heater or a name and model number please.
Link is in the description. They all have thermostats but none of them work very well. I just use it in standard mode and adjust the air as needed.
Can i get 5kw to work with jackery 300 explore ? Thanks for the video
It should.
Im wondering if these heaters can run on used veg/ or motor oil? I think id personally only use used veg if it were possible or with a mix of diesel?
I know they can run on Kerosene.
There’s a whole series of videos on CZcams about using alternative fuels and custom mixes. The TLDR that I took away from them is that there’s a high likelihood of damaging your heater because it’s not engineered for those fuels. Specifically carbon buildup in the burner that eventually blocks it.
There are much better options for burning the alternative fuels. Meanwhile, these heaters sip fuel so slowly that you’re not saving that much money, so just stick with diesel and kerosene.
@@twestgard2 I'm thinking in terms of the environment. Thanks.
@@Billy-cs4cc Ah! I haven’t seen anyone address that specifically but there are some clues in the videos. The alternative fuels don’t burn completely, which means they’re dumping partially combusted, carcinogenic soot into the air. Also there’s the ecological cost of ruining a heater. And modern farming practices use more diesel to make plant oils than if we just burned the diesel to begin with; it’s a net loss.
Obviously burning nothing would help with carbon outputs but also obviously people need heat somehow. So I end up at the same conclusion, for these heaters IMO it’s diesel or kerosene only, and for things like waste cooking oil or waste engine oil, if you’re going to burn those at all, they need to be in a different style of heater that guarantees total combustion. Check out pyrolysis videos for more about that.
On the little electric Vevor heater is yours the 2kw, 5kw or 8kw?
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Will it be safe with exhaust outside through the wall without having any leaks inside?
People do it all the time
Use a proper insulated flange type fitting for running the exhaust through walls or panels as the exhaust pipe itself gets very hot.
You can also prevent fuel leaking by placing a piece of plastic over the tank neck and then screwing the cap on. Easily removed when you need to.
We started out with a red horizontal tower 5K 3 years ago. We used it originally on our large Coleman Pop-up while off grid camping. Worked so well here on the East Coast mountains. I also believe that with the fuel tank on top of the heat exchange, it's less prone to have the diesel gel up in extreme cold without additives. Last season, it started blowing white smoke. So it was a great reason to buy the Hcalory 5K (Note: which the bluetooth app doesn't work on Android 😢).
The Hcalory is much easier to travel with, plus I like the exhaust out the side. It does tend to want to fall over with the fuel tank on the side.
We just put out a video today, which I touched on the slinky hose. I found that our hose actually had a horrible plastic smell that never went away. I believe it's very likly that the hose design with the ribs caused your air flow to be restricted. You can buy the traditional car heater hose now in 2 meters / 6.6 ft lenght 75mm (plus you can buy couplers to piece more hoses together). You may want to consider giving that a try. I believe it would solve your issue of the overheating error. But only a good old fashion real world test would tell us the truth. 😊 You may also notice a difference in the airflow being less restriction. The other thing to note is that some of the slinky hoses are not rated for the higher temperatures.
Another great video. Thank you again for honest, real-world testing! We just finished up the 3 days in the Ozarks before this one.
P.S. When you come up with a better travel mode or the ultimate non leak gas tank/cap, please sign me up! Have cash in hand...😂 ready to hand over. Contractor trash bags are getting old.
Mark (& Teresa)
Hampstead Maryland
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I found a 3in gas, hot water heater, aluminum exhaust hose which is more heavy duty than what comes with these and expands from about 3ft to 8ft ish that works perfectly. Also look for hose clams with "wingnut" style screw instead of needing a screwdriver you can just tighten by hand.
@robber356 Do you have a link for the heavy-duty pipe? I can only find 3.25" pipe at Home Improvement store. Yes the no tool clamps are amazing!
You could just mix petrol with the diesel as it will still run ok, as that's what commercial vehicles can do to stop frozen pipes.
@@stephenboyd4934Or just add Diesel Anti Gel 😊
Hi Mark (& Teresa),
Thank you so much for sharing your comprehensive review of your diesel heater experiences! It's invaluable to have feedback like yours that's borne out of real-world use over time. As for the issues you raised, your insight about the slinky hose is very interesting; we'll definitely look into testing out traditional car heater hoses as a potential solution to the overheating error. This kind of sharing improves our collective knowledge and definitely helps other diesel heater users.
Delighted that you just had a wonderful adventure in the Ozarks. Safe travels in your Ford Ranger FX4 - GFC Camper!
Best,
Did you measure the CFM output of the 5kW vs the 8kW? That's probably the difference between the two. They'll likely discharge the same temperature but if the 8kW discharges more CFM, that's where the additional heat capacity is coming from...
To get true thermostat control you can get a
Bureck CD Thermostat that replaces the stock remote control.
A guy in Idaho makes them. $50 - $70 depends on wired or wireless model.
Well, maybe the 588 has a different fan and how much air they can push now the next question is how much is that in BTUs 58 in all like house races measured in BTUs is the camper and most other things, so how old is that?
I’ve never seen a diesel heater measured in BTUs. Would be nice if they were.
PSA here. Hcalory has a design flaw within the product. The fuel pump need to be at an angle to release the air bubbles inside to pass. If not the pump will have excessive wear and pump will fail. I’ve seen people say as soon as 1 month. Multiple models of Hcalory have them with no angle as seen in the pictures provided on website. I have notified them and they say they are looking into it. Just wanted to pass on what I have found. Thanks
Did you modify the angle of the fuel pump?
Haha, that hair gets it for me!
Gets what? 😂🤷🏼♂️
Good video but I would like to add a couple of things. The one I bought which is the middle one sivel, or something like that. It's difficult to take apart because it has so many screws. I ended up changing every single hose and adding hose clamps. I did not trust the cheap Chinese hoses so I went out and bought real fuel lines and hose clamps. I do a lot of off-roading and I don't need one of these hoses to vibrate off. Other than that the thing works great And like you said when you shut it off make sure it does its thing before you unplug it. I have battery power going to mine constantly so I just shut it off and leave it be.
I stopped using my rv propane heater in my fifth wheel. It was burning through 7 gallons in 3 days and it propane is a pain in the ass to remove the tanks... Bring them to only a few places that take forever to fill. I csnnget diesel antwhere 24/7 and its cheaper per btu. Its quiter. My rv propane fan uses 200w to run, the diesel heater uses 30w on average amd it's quiet.
anything about the noise level on these? i find them too loud and annoying in general.
Hi do these things work with SVO once they are hot?
SVO?
I installed a Chinese Diesel heater in my 6x12 cargo trailer conversion... I spent all my effort making sure I properly exhausted the unit through my 1 inch insulated wall using a thru-hull stainless outlet as well as using high-temp RTV around my exhaust hose with high quality hose clamps, and thought everything was great.. I now know that I need to also properly setup a thru-hull port for the combustion intake (away from the exhaust). These devices are primitive.. don't trust that the exhaust flow will happen in one direction with 100% certainty... and don't expect your Home Depot CO detector to save you either.. I've smelled the funky smell, and let it go... and it made me pretty sick.. Don't ignore it... do it right.
...also, if you drop the diesel pump frequency, the exhaust-to-intake leak is even worse... Treat the combustion intake just as important as the exhaust itself.
I like to run mine on Kerosene it doesn't stink as bad !
You should try running it with Kerosene. That is how I run mine and you get more heat at 1-1.5kw. Diesel is also not as clean burning. Give it a try you will appreciate it.
I keep hearing that and will give it a try. Thanks.
@@OzarkOverlandAdventures Diesel fuel(35 second oil) has more calorific value than central heating kerosene(28 second oil)
I run both fuels in my 5kw heater and the top temperature is hotter with Diesel fuel.
Diesel is recommended for Hcalory heaters
So which power station did work for the vevor?
The bluetti ac70
@@VanWohow long run time do you get off of that size battery bank
There is a new company Velit Camping that has this style of heater that runs on gasoline!
Wonder how these will do with just a regular ole ground tent that has mesh openings, etc.? 🤔 mine has a big mesh top but a rain fly can go over it to maybe help hold in heat a little? Hopefully someone has tried it 😂 or I may be the one to test that out soon
I'm sure it's better than not having one. lol.
@@OzarkOverlandAdventures true dat! 🤣
12 volt power consumption and burn times on high and low settings would have been super useful.
I did a stand alone video on the Vevor a few weeks ago and discussed it there.
is it safe to install in a van and vent outside?
Absolutely
Great vid. Who does your hair?
Thanks. I've had the same girl doing it for years now.
nice info...your right...there is really only a 5kw....packaging is different...ive taken apart many many units...I swear there is only one company in china making the core unit that everyone else uses.
our portable toolbox diesel heater.: the handheld aspect ensures it's easy to travel with, and its compatibility with any 12V Universal Diesel Heaters guarantees a reliable source of warmth at your fingertips, wherever you need it. We designed it with the promise of providing an instantly cozy ambiance during those cool temperatures.
Wish you mentioned the smallest battery you can use in this one just a little. I’m going to sleep now lol lol 😮
Great info, wonder if people have used these to heat the cabin of a cuddly cabin boat?
Was thinking this would extend the boating season, would be awesome to camp via boat w the Mrs for a weekend and float around, eat on the boat, chill watching some TV and enjoying great time w the Mrs in a nice warm boat cabin by using a heater like these!!
Camping on the boat sounds like an amazing way to spend a weekend, especially spending quality time with your loved one!!