Bo Nickal vs. Gabe Dean: 2017 NCAA title match (184 lbs.)

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  • Penn State's Bo Nickal defeated Cornell's Gabe Dean in the 184-pound title match at the 2017 NCAA wrestling championships. See the full match replay here.
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  • @nyfolkhero
    @nyfolkhero Před rokem +160

    Future UFC champion Bo Nickal

  • @Saltydogg909
    @Saltydogg909 Před 7 měsíci +16

    this match is underrated. this match gets lost in all the great matches of the last decade. its a classic

    • @xenonmaster6668
      @xenonmaster6668 Před 2 měsíci +1

      I agree. This is one of my favorites. This was the first match I talked to Bo nickal about when I met him at ncaas 2 years ago.

  • @stylicho
    @stylicho Před 3 lety +38

    Bo Nickal is what you call "country strong"

  • @geo1134
    @geo1134 Před rokem +24

    That first take down was quite possibly the best use of angles of all time.

  • @kchall5
    @kchall5 Před 3 lety +65

    Probably Nickal's greatest collegiate match ever against his toughest opponent. He beat the consummate technician Dean at his own game, which was nearly impossible to do.

    • @WiegandsWindow
      @WiegandsWindow Před rokem +2

      Bo lost and he knows it.

    • @tightbhole420
      @tightbhole420 Před rokem

      ​@@WiegandsWindow keep saying it champ, maybe one day itll be true

    • @spencerantoniomarlen-starr3069
      @spencerantoniomarlen-starr3069 Před rokem

      @@WiegandsWindow LMAO you are replying to all of the comments with this type of thing lol. It was a close match, but it is over

    • @WiegandsWindow
      @WiegandsWindow Před rokem

      @@spencerantoniomarlen-starr3069 "LMAO" hope your OK.

  • @crimsonchin142
    @crimsonchin142 Před 3 lety +59

    This what I came for ncaa , I need that 174 Ed Ruth ncaa finals soon

    • @NCAAChampionships
      @NCAAChampionships  Před 3 lety +14

      Thanks for watching! We'll be looking into your request.

    • @ogot344
      @ogot344 Před 3 lety +4

      @@NCAAChampionships YESS

    • @demetriusdavis95
      @demetriusdavis95 Před 3 lety +3

      @@NCAAChampionships please get that one and Ed Ruth’s senior year 184 against the guy from Maryland PLEASE

    • @xenonmaster6668
      @xenonmaster6668 Před 2 lety

      @@demetriusdavis95 oh you mean Jimmy Sheptock?

    • @demetriusdavis95
      @demetriusdavis95 Před 2 lety

      @@xenonmaster6668 yup, didn’t get a chance to watch that’s year championship and been looking for the videos every since

  • @slinkit9825
    @slinkit9825 Před rokem +30

    I know I’m late but I think it speaks volumes about his character that he immediately mentioned how he was looking for his family to thank them. And then during the entire interview he is scanning constantly to find his family. Seems like he’s got great character on top of his elite athletic ability

    • @thechessmartialist840
      @thechessmartialist840 Před rokem +1

      Both his parents were quite high-level athletes in their own rights. D-1 level, and one of them might even have been an Olympian if I'm not mistaken. Like Sebastian Korda in tennis, Bo Nickal has natural genetic athleticism. Look at the muscle difference between the much older Gabe Dean and Bo, yet Bo was able to ride Gabe and hold his own in tie-ups etc. Dude is going to be UFC MW champion. Can't wait. He would beat Izzy or Alex tonight.

  • @robertpalatsky5017
    @robertpalatsky5017 Před měsícem

    I love Quint. how he always connects with the wrestlers, not just on the mat, but also off the mat. That little moment where he told Bo where his family was was very nice.

  • @dalvarez-wd3kx
    @dalvarez-wd3kx Před 3 lety +16

    I’ve been looking for this match🔥🔥

  • @arniestephens7131
    @arniestephens7131 Před 3 lety +25

    What an amazing match. I love Bo, but Dean is an animal too.

    • @WiegandsWindow
      @WiegandsWindow Před rokem

      Dean won and dominated.

    • @Suplex479
      @Suplex479 Před rokem

      ​@@WiegandsWindow how?

    • @us-Bahn
      @us-Bahn Před 11 měsíci

      Dean did at 8:18 what Bo never got close to doing.

  • @tsampson62
    @tsampson62 Před rokem +3

    Classic match with 2 of the greats.

  • @williamoleary9330
    @williamoleary9330 Před 3 lety +9

    Thank you NCAA
    Merry Christmas and Happy New Year

    • @NCAAChampionships
      @NCAAChampionships  Před 3 lety +3

      You're very welcome! Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you!

    • @mariamamart8086
      @mariamamart8086 Před 3 lety

      @@NCAAChampionships
      Very Good Fighting !!!!!!!!!
      🤙👌💪
      👏👏👏👏👏

  • @bobe3250
    @bobe3250 Před 3 lety +5

    Great match!!!

  • @willlancer7831
    @willlancer7831 Před 3 lety +15

    Please, PLEASE post the Myles Martin Bo nickal rematch ncaa final from 2018

  • @thewillow0000
    @thewillow0000 Před rokem +2

    UFC now Bo , you are gonna kill it mate, fan from Australia 🇦🇺 champ.

  • @tmt1675
    @tmt1675 Před 2 lety +30

    The strength of Dean in the third leg extended edge of the mat to almost turn Bo with a Jr high Johny three quarter Nelson hip over is insane! That scramble was nuts both almost scored in ten seconds!

  • @Tfunrox
    @Tfunrox Před 3 lety +8

    Let's get Nickal vs Martin 2018

    • @NCAAChampionships
      @NCAAChampionships  Před 3 lety +3

      Thanks for the request, David. Unfortunately, the file we have of Nickal vs Martin 2018 has some issues. Hopefully we'll have it repaired in the future.

    • @lexingtonconcord8751
      @lexingtonconcord8751 Před 3 lety

      @@NCAAChampionships We'll be looking for it. Why aren't all of these big matches posted directly after the tournaments? Thanks 👍

  • @andrewhunt2429
    @andrewhunt2429 Před 2 měsíci

    What’s crazy is dean was the starting QB in HS. Man he was fun to watch play football.

  • @ronnyrono782
    @ronnyrono782 Před 2 lety +8

    Cornell, the Big Red, national powerhouse virtually every year. Crowning national champ after national champ. How can they not have owned a
    team title yet. It's amazing.

  • @allanrojas9226
    @allanrojas9226 Před 3 lety

    If you get all team wrestling what school has the best wresters?

  • @rbcardoso3572
    @rbcardoso3572 Před rokem +1

    Nickal Back 🎸

  • @us-Bahn
    @us-Bahn Před rokem +2

    Good even match throughout with the exception of 8.18 Bo Nickal looked lost and dominated.

    • @jakedemaggio8649
      @jakedemaggio8649 Před 11 měsíci +1

      😂 have you ever considered a career in comedy?

  • @Mma-basement-215
    @Mma-basement-215 Před 6 měsíci

    That was a very close competitive match WOW

  • @MAMP
    @MAMP Před 3 lety +4

    Goddam that wizzer step over at the end

  • @acct5910
    @acct5910 Před rokem +2

    6:15 was crazy

  • @jiujitsuismyoutlet
    @jiujitsuismyoutlet Před rokem +1

    Man Bo is like a BJJ gumby player in these scrambled

  • @crimsonchin142
    @crimsonchin142 Před 3 lety +18

    Was an insane scramble for that bo win. Amazing wrestler and would’ve beaten dean again of dean was still around

  • @EdSanchezSports
    @EdSanchezSports Před 8 měsíci

    UFC Champ Bo Nickal

  • @ianshue2890
    @ianshue2890 Před 3 lety +1

    I completely forgot about this match

  • @vermontraised5334
    @vermontraised5334 Před rokem +1

    Bo throwing hands in mma 👍

  • @MrSilus2000
    @MrSilus2000 Před rokem +3

    Most casual fans watching would have given it to Dean, no question. Had the dude flopping for his life. And a clear takedown.

  • @jessiedoggie1
    @jessiedoggie1 Před rokem +3

    Dean should have gotten 2 points for neutral exposure in the 3rd period, but Koll didn't challenge. The rest of the match would have been quite different if the challenge had been made and won.

    • @jessiedoggie1
      @jessiedoggie1 Před rokem

      I see after reading the comment string that neutral exposure wasn't added to the rules until later.

    • @WiegandsWindow
      @WiegandsWindow Před rokem +1

      @@jessiedoggie1 Dean dominated. He wasn't given 4 pts in the third period, and Bo received 2 extra from the refs in the first round. Gabe was clearly robbed

  • @ChasingDonnieBaseball
    @ChasingDonnieBaseball Před 3 lety +7

    2:46 this official constantly telling the wrestlers to get back to the "center" of the mat, even here??? 2:46

  • @thefreshprinceofnohair9703

    Dana loves Bo more than Conor now ! I can’t wait to see how this turns out !

  • @JohnSmith-jk4zy
    @JohnSmith-jk4zy Před 3 lety +7

    Ed Ruth vs Nick Amuchastegui soon please! :)

  • @quinnheller1113
    @quinnheller1113 Před 3 lety +14

    8:15
    Did Cornell just run out of challenge bricks to throw? Probably still would’ve went to neutral but regardless

  • @zaynes5094
    @zaynes5094 Před 2 lety +1

    Looking back at this, Nickal could’ve been scored on a few times here but was able to hold him.

  • @johhnyburger3565
    @johhnyburger3565 Před rokem +6

    Lord and Savior Jesus Christ!!! You tell em Bo!!!

  • @Dpend84
    @Dpend84 Před 3 lety +4

    The better wrestler doesn't always win

    • @K....D....
      @K....D.... Před 2 lety +1

      The best wrestler today does

    • @us-Bahn
      @us-Bahn Před 11 měsíci +1

      Dean outshone Bo.

  • @seanwallace89
    @seanwallace89 Před rokem

    Probably top three best wrestler names out right now.. Bo Nickal and Gabe Dean. #1 is Gable Steveson.

  • @deanodebo1380
    @deanodebo1380 Před 3 lety +4

    Wow I don’t remember it being that close

  • @crimsonchin142
    @crimsonchin142 Před 3 lety +2

    Idk was that two in the third round when gabe dean flipped bo and jumped on bo?

  • @mariosoto3000
    @mariosoto3000 Před rokem +4

    The most robbed and theft match how is possible that automatically and everything on favor with Nickal when gable showed more technique and pointings

  • @youarerightboss
    @youarerightboss Před 3 lety

    WE ARE PENN STATE!

  • @widehead1234
    @widehead1234 Před rokem +3

    I'm sorry Dean was just a better man here in this match

  • @cloudbudget
    @cloudbudget Před 3 lety +11

    Dean was the better of the two in this match. Nickal got points that were marginal at best while Dean was snubbed toward the end. Impressive match, but this one does not feel right.

    • @Timtrom333
      @Timtrom333 Před 2 lety

      I thought the same thing but he was way too conservative and I think the end of the match came around sooner than he thought it was going to. His nerves may have just gotten the better of him in this particular match but u gotta give Bo the credit he deserved - he did what he had to do to get his hand raised at the end.

    • @MrSilus2000
      @MrSilus2000 Před rokem

      @@Timtrom333 Bottom line the wrong guy won

    • @markheffelfinger9677
      @markheffelfinger9677 Před rokem

      sounds like you’re salty bruh

  • @kerrycaldwell2519
    @kerrycaldwell2519 Před rokem +1

    deans juice was on juice lol

  • @dbx1233
    @dbx1233 Před rokem +1

    What is it with athletes named Bo? Bo Jackson was pretty good too.

    • @jessiedoggie1
      @jessiedoggie1 Před rokem +2

      And Bo Nance from Syracuse was a heavyweight wrestling champion and great football back in the 60s.

  • @RogerPack
    @RogerPack Před 3 lety

    Dean looked a little scared before the match...pretty close in the end...

  • @karencarman8336
    @karencarman8336 Před měsícem

    I saw Dean in high School and he not even close to where he was here!

  • @frankferrara4407
    @frankferrara4407 Před 2 lety +4

    Bo was a stall artist. Plus he was put on his back and Gabe was given no points. Not a single stall warning on Bo. I call bull.

    • @matthewfenton5235
      @matthewfenton5235 Před rokem +1

      Funny watching this match live and then watching it quite a few years later.
      Bo definitely was stalling that takedown was garbage and I felt like Gabe pushed the pace
      I love me some bo but that was very suspect 🤔

    • @jessiedoggie1
      @jessiedoggie1 Před rokem

      My thoughts exactly. Why Koll didn't challenge the neutral exposure is beyond me.

  • @cosinguspalpatine4449
    @cosinguspalpatine4449 Před 2 lety +1

    Dean got some fuckin calf’s

  • @ianshue2890
    @ianshue2890 Před 3 lety +29

    If I’m allowed to bring out my own opinion, I don’t think Nickal should’ve won. I’m a big Bo Nickal fan, but Bo’s takedown is one of the most controversial takedowns I have ever seen. Even looking at it now, I don’t think it was two

    • @julianchambliess-moreno4883
      @julianchambliess-moreno4883 Před 3 lety +10

      He had control of both legs and was on top

    • @ianshue2890
      @ianshue2890 Před 3 lety +6

      @@julianchambliess-moreno4883 yeah but it looked more like a scramble than a takedown

    • @ianshue2890
      @ianshue2890 Před 3 lety +4

      @@Michael-ii9fs I’m not assuming, and I’m not saying I’m an official in terms of scoring, but there have been things that have been much clearer than this and sometimes they don’t call a takedown. I’m not trying to assume, it’s just it doesn’t look like 2 to me

    • @kristopherwilson506
      @kristopherwilson506 Před rokem +3

      I don’t think it’s a controversial takedown; I think Nickal knew the rules and took advantage of them. He had control of the hips (by way of the leg and ankle) and Dean was on his butt. Even though it didn’t look like control, he certainly had it

    • @steveweatherly6907
      @steveweatherly6907 Před rokem +1

      @@ianshue2890 ... yeah - like Jordan Oliver's last minute take down of "what's his name," from Ohio State... Oliver absolutely got two and Bo's take down wasn't even as good as that...

  • @migueltor6434
    @migueltor6434 Před 2 měsíci

    Mr. D looks physically bigger than Mr. N.

  • @conzo2166
    @conzo2166 Před 6 měsíci

    Gabe should've had points with the quarter

  • @kauairootsohana
    @kauairootsohana Před 9 měsíci

    How many people here because Jocko podcast!!??

  • @poundinghogs8354
    @poundinghogs8354 Před 3 lety +27

    Idk i think during that scramble at the end Dean should have been awarded some near fall points .

    • @Fullsendfilosophy
      @Fullsendfilosophy Před 3 lety +10

      Secret about nearfall is that you need to gain control for near fall. No control had been established he never had control beyond reaction time.

    • @poundinghogs8354
      @poundinghogs8354 Před 3 lety +1

      @@Fullsendfilosophy if he had control he would of been awarded a takedown thats how takedowns work. Dean had two before Bo flees the mat!

    • @Fullsendfilosophy
      @Fullsendfilosophy Před 3 lety +3

      @@poundinghogs8354 The official didn't indicate 2 and Rob koll had a challenge but didn't use it. So obviously he didn't believe there was control beyond reaction time either

    • @poundinghogs8354
      @poundinghogs8354 Před 3 lety +3

      @@Fullsendfilosophy if you look at it when Dean wizzers Bo to his back Dean has hes far arm trapped thats 2 plus near fall

    • @Fullsendfilosophy
      @Fullsendfilosophy Před 3 lety +7

      @@poundinghogs8354 You don't understand reaction time its okay. 3x ncaa Champs rob koll understands it and thats why he didn't challenge it. If you're right why didn't Rob kill challenge?

  • @mickeyjackson9318
    @mickeyjackson9318 Před 2 lety +2

    Dean's coach robbed him he should of challenged the nickel takedown. At least the nearfall something deans last college match for the national championship!!!!!

  • @ronnyrono782
    @ronnyrono782 Před 2 lety +1

    Cornell owes a tip of the hat to the 1950s assistant coach Bill Layton. He was the guy responsible for taking a less than average Division 1 School and converting it into a National Champion producing machine. The one and only Bill Layton.
    What a friggin character.

  • @goldwolf0606
    @goldwolf0606 Před 3 lety +4

    That was a horrible call to give Bo the win... there was no take down when they were off the Mat. He stalled his way to the title... horrible...

  • @NotSure876
    @NotSure876 Před rokem +1

    I’m already over Bo Nickal

  • @noingu4251
    @noingu4251 Před 3 lety +2

    0:33x.

  • @makkenji6053
    @makkenji6053 Před rokem

    Maybe Dean should be in the ufc

  • @isaacbutler2517
    @isaacbutler2517 Před 3 lety +4

    8:25 that was not two tf?

  • @patrickbrogan8770
    @patrickbrogan8770 Před rokem +1

    How was that not initially called a takedown for Bo?

    • @matman3845
      @matman3845 Před rokem +1

      How was it Called a takedown at all?

  • @jordanbarlow8578
    @jordanbarlow8578 Před 3 lety

    THE PARENTS.....

  • @sifasi5546
    @sifasi5546 Před rokem

    9:43

  • @trustysuperbat6840
    @trustysuperbat6840 Před 3 lety +1

    Could you guys upload the Oregon vs Minnesota volleyball game from 2018? One of the most exciting sets!

  • @CaramonMSS
    @CaramonMSS Před 3 lety +5

    That take down at the end of the first was.... idk college rules, but if that is a takedown, they need to be changed. lol

  • @matman3845
    @matman3845 Před rokem

    Idk about that first takedown

  • @lucashack5318
    @lucashack5318 Před 2 lety +3

    All the glory goes to Jesus Christ!

  • @rockwyrwas6860
    @rockwyrwas6860 Před 2 lety

    Dude made 1 mistake and that was enough.

  • @labzline
    @labzline Před 2 lety

    BO IS INCREDIBLE BUT watch him wrestle Gordon Ryan. Half way through the match you see him realize Gordon is toying with him. Amazing.

    • @Cheesusrice69222
      @Cheesusrice69222 Před 2 lety +8

      That was jui jitsu juice head gordan wouldn't stand a chance in wrestling

    • @jbizzle1593
      @jbizzle1593 Před rokem

      @@Cheesusrice69222 Thank you for saying that so I didn't have to!! 🤣🤣🤣

    • @shellshock8505
      @shellshock8505 Před rokem +2

      Gordon isn’t half the athlete Bo nickal is and he’s juiced up

    • @labzline
      @labzline Před rokem

      @@shellshock8505 interesting opinion. Doesn’t change anything I wrote. I’m sure if Gordon was in a match with Bo using collegiate wrestling The outcome would be different. The two forms of grappling overlap but there’s a clear difference. And no matter what you think of those abilities. He’s nothing compared to Gordon Ryan when it comes to Jujitsu.

    • @YourUpperLip1
      @YourUpperLip1 Před rokem +1

      @@labzline your original comment is about wrestling and your last one is BJJ. Don’t change your stance just to seem right

  • @ozz2762
    @ozz2762 Před rokem

    Such a weird sport. Im a huge mma fan and understand how dominant these guys are there but like this whole match nothimg happened and he wins. Its a strange system of points

    • @nrm0051
      @nrm0051 Před rokem

      It’s about getting takedowns and exposing your opponents back also get points for escaping from bottom

  • @fiddynutz68
    @fiddynutz68 Před 3 lety +3

    Wow Dean got hosed

  • @watchmanwilliam8396
    @watchmanwilliam8396 Před 3 lety +2

    No back points when he had bo flipped an tucking the arm over the other guy won this match! Loves bos faith though praise Jesus!

    • @taborwanag1271
      @taborwanag1271 Před 3 lety +1

      this is before ncaa added exposure prior to an awarded takedown. It may have been a different score if this had been after 2019 (maybe 2018, I don't remember exactly)

    • @watchmanwilliam8396
      @watchmanwilliam8396 Před 3 lety

      @@taborwanag1271 Yeah cause he definitely had him torqued over and should have got back points

    • @taborwanag1271
      @taborwanag1271 Před 3 lety +1

      @@watchmanwilliam8396 I agree, sorta reminds you how much sports are always evolving and changing and ultimately made up and arbitrary

    • @xenonmaster6668
      @xenonmaster6668 Před 2 lety

      @@taborwanag1271 it was 2018

  • @davidtrani190
    @davidtrani190 Před rokem +1

    Dean got robbed on back points and stalling.

    • @WiegandsWindow
      @WiegandsWindow Před rokem

      Dean dominated. He wasn't given 4 pts in the third period, and Bo received 2 extra from the refs in the first round. Gabe was clearly robbed.

  • @K....D....
    @K....D.... Před 2 lety +1

    “it could be over in 50 seconds or 18-17” wrong

  • @mookie449
    @mookie449 Před 2 lety

    So, he essentially did nothing.

  • @Debo-ou6wj
    @Debo-ou6wj Před 3 lety +3

    So no backs lol wow 😂😂😂😂

    • @Fullsendfilosophy
      @Fullsendfilosophy Před 3 lety +2

      Need to establish control beyond reaction time

    • @terranpaul4477
      @terranpaul4477 Před 3 lety

      He was on his back for 2 seconds.. not long enough and not enough control for points

    • @MrSilus2000
      @MrSilus2000 Před rokem +1

      @@Fullsendfilosophy Whwre was the control for his takedown that was scored?

  • @greggieo
    @greggieo Před rokem

    What kind of format is this? No ropes or turnbuckles? Is this fake? 🤔

    • @nrm0051
      @nrm0051 Před rokem

      WWE is the fake wrestling

  • @milesmason357
    @milesmason357 Před 3 lety +1

    Hi

  • @ethanlewis5000
    @ethanlewis5000 Před 3 lety +2

    He shouldn’t of won tbh

  • @RiRi-df9jt
    @RiRi-df9jt Před 3 lety

    the fucking ears man

  • @ericyu7091
    @ericyu7091 Před rokem

    Just curious if wrestler always wear this type of ear protectors, cauliflower ears will not exist right ? If so, why don’t people not wear this all the time for training ?

    • @SuperDvck
      @SuperDvck Před rokem

      caulifloweer ear is desired by a lot of wrestlers, its almost never worn during practice

  • @thomasdeininger1605
    @thomasdeininger1605 Před rokem

    I beat bo with hands in high school

  • @saint5203
    @saint5203 Před 2 lety

    jesus christ is king

  • @WiegandsWindow
    @WiegandsWindow Před rokem +1

    I used to wrestle. Gabe won easily and also dominated. Bo should have never received 2 pts in the first rd and Gabe should have received 4 pts in the third for dumping Bo on his back. For college level refs, this was terrible to see on national TV..

  • @demongustavditters7150

    Ref gave up that match

  • @Creaa889
    @Creaa889 Před 5 měsíci

    gabe dean got cheated

  • @matthurford9363
    @matthurford9363 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Bo Nickal for me was super overrated. If anyone here knows Pat Downey they wrrstle exactly the same. Everyone trues to work their offense on they and guys like this pride themselves off of your offensive mistakes. Bo Nickal is not very good. Hes a big move guy. His leg attacks are terrible

  • @angelbaltz5366
    @angelbaltz5366 Před 2 lety

    The temporary scooter presumably mend because judge promisingly borrow next a poor relative. delightful, dazzling granddaughter

  • @dzenisalickovic5868
    @dzenisalickovic5868 Před 3 lety +10

    Dean got robbed , was the better wrestler and was robbed of those back points. Where was the challenge?

    • @terranpaul4477
      @terranpaul4477 Před 3 lety +5

      Nickal broke parallel for 2 seconds and Dean didnt have control... not 2

    • @WiegandsWindow
      @WiegandsWindow Před rokem

      @@terranpaul4477 Can't turn somebody like dean did unless you have control. Dean dominated. He wasn't given 4 pts in the third period, and Bo received 2 extra from the refs in the first round. Gabe was clearly robbed

  • @aemalsaid3558
    @aemalsaid3558 Před 3 lety +4

    dean shoulda won no cap

  • @genghiskhan7041
    @genghiskhan7041 Před 3 lety

    Finally: a Texan that's not a complete snowflake.

    • @stylicho
      @stylicho Před 3 lety

      He's not Texan. He's from Wyoming, or actually Colorado before that

    • @xenonmaster6668
      @xenonmaster6668 Před 2 lety

      @@stylicho he actually wrestled his 8th grade year in Rio Rancho, NM for RR NM and placed runnerup at the state tournament. I wrestled in the same arena Bo Nickal wrestled in 10-11 years ago as a 8th grader this past may as a hs senior

  • @donutholes636
    @donutholes636 Před rokem

    Bo gets after it