Kobe Bryant on LeBron James: 'You got to figure out a way to win' | First Take | ESPN
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- The First Take crew, including Stephen A. Smith and Max Kellerman, react to Kobe Bryant saying LeBron James "got to figure out a way to win."
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Kobe would've been fighting G.hill & jr smith after game 1
Kevron I agree he would NOT let shit slide.
Kevron On God 💯
#BIGFACTZ
And they still would have gotten swept
Marvin Collins while shooting 13/41
Kobe did beat the 4 allstar Celtics in the finals. Destroyed the spurs almost every postseason and has eliminated the most 50 win teams by any player in nba history
Haters mad
Kobe > Lebron
Allen was ass kg ass
BeingWokeTV also got carried by shaq in 3 finals
Call me back when he beats a 70 win team.
Jay Clemons stfu Shaq needed Kobe. Kobe needed Shaq. They help each other nobody carried them.
THANK YOU STEPHEN A FOR BACKING UP KOBE
Ditra Nugraha sas a hater of lbj
Arvin Villa L3-6ronsexual's hate people who speak facts
Kobe didn't pick players.
plus Kobe NEVER left his team just to win a ring, Lebron did.
lol kobe threatened to leave if the lakers didn't give him the players he wanted
Santhosh Subramanian Cause he got tired of carrying the team continue the story.
lol and so did lebron, lebron carried the cavs before he went to the heat. When dan gilbert didn't listen to lebron's requests, he left. Just like kobe would have if the lakers didn't get better players to support him.
#TheTruth
Kobe is right. Listen to the 5 time champ
ValleVideo
Pippen 6 Rings > Kobe 5 Rings 😂
Shaquille O'Neal 3 Finals Mvps best player on Lakers 3peat and Kobe Bryant sidekick
First Ring
Kobe 15.6 ppg and 36.7% fg 😂
Carried by
Shaq 38 ppg and 61% fg 😂
Kobe Bryant 44.7% fg and most missed missed shots all time and 3x sidekick isn't top 8 all time player
Kobe Bryant ranks 9-12 range
Why listen to someone that LeBron better than 🤔
@@davionrison4803 Clown, 🤡, LeBron couldn’t win without Kyrie, Kevin Love, D-Wade, Chris Bosh, lol, All stacked teams lmao, Lost 6x in the finals, LeBum a ring chaser
I was born in 1998 and I’m telling you my whole childhood, even as a Seattle fan and now okc remembers kobe dominating the era...every game making crazy shot after shot. Like it’s hard to explain because stats don’t tell the whole story of how he would just take over games in the 4th and will his team. I don’t disagree with it but I was definitely shocked when I heard how much lebron was put over kobe. I think people just kind of forget how dominate he really was. And I hated kobe at the time because of how good he was. Please don’t give me hate as it’s just my opinions and I’m not using any stats but just using what I saw him do.
Max you are talking too much!!! Kobe did whatever he needed to do to win!!!
On the otherhand LeBron had the ball 90% of the time!!!
So what were the other 4 players on the court supposed to do,. just standt by & watch LeBron shoot?
2007 Spurs swept Lebron
2008 Kobe beats Spurs 4-1
Nice, the lakers got booted in the first round in 2007
Mic drop.
Santhosh Subramanian Lebron lost to the magic in the 2nd round in 09 when his team had the best record in the league
Gamerman-10 is that your debate?? Now go compare those playoff numbers!!!
Gamerman-10 if we are debating Kobe in the sentence with LeBron that's not even up for discussion!! Kobe was not even the number 1 guy on his team or leading scorer for 5 plus years !!! Like dude what are you saying
All kobe said is he has to figure out a way to win...there is no need to criticize kobe all he said was try to win
Nassir nas but its ok to bash lebron and say hes the worst athlete in the world?
Nassir nas that is critizism
The sport media analyst don't need much to give an opinion about anything anymore.
He looks so good against those weak East teams, faces a real team and just gives up. smh that is not what a Top 10 player's mentality should look like.
Reminder: Kobe beat the Celtics in the 2010 NBA Finals, who had 4 CURRENT all stars on that squad (Rondo, Ray Allen, Paul Pierce, Kevin Garnett). Basically, Kobe is tryna stay stop making excuses and just win
Javian Johnson Kobe beat a hurt Celtics team what are u talking about celtics lost their starting center when kobe beat them!!!
Reminder, he also blew a 3-1 lead to an amare less suns team the year he “deserved mvp” 06’, shot the lakers out the chip in 04’ and got swept in 2011 as a 2 Time defending champ
Javian Johnson 4 all stars and 3 of those All stars weren't in they're Primes So Not the Same
Stfu u don't know what he tryna say
Nah KG was hurt that series
Do I need to remind you ? that Kobe scored 81 points in a game.
And blew a 3-1 lead in the same season....
Your name suits you son
And won
Dumbass nigga talkin shit lbj is better than kobe
Lebron dropped 51 8 and 8 in the finals and lost. It pretty much sums up his entire career. Kobe played on the greatest franchise in nba history and mj had a top 50 all time player for his entire career
Bruh, I can't people analysts are even allowed to say whose better than who. It pisses me off to the max
Jedi Night i dont know if you did that on purpose but i see you.
You can't what?
Jedi Night why wouldn't they be able to state their opinion.....
Kobe is actually right with what he's saying. He's talking about how he would look at the situation and try to deal with it. He's not even being critical of Lebron in this since Jordan had the same convo with Kobe about facing stacked teams, but that's not what makes headlines I guess.
Talk because he faced a team with 4 all stars 2 mvps DPOY 73-9 team? Oh stop iT!
But Kobe did beat the 4 allstar Celtics in the finals. Destroyed the spurs almost every postseason and has eliminated the most 50 win teams by any player in nba history
If you saying that to '10 celtics are better than any warrior teams after '15, you on some crack.
BeingWokeTV
Now it seems like the bronsexuals praising the Warriors. XD
Maybe I am on crack but Kobe has faced more competition than Lebron and proven he can be the top Dog. Keep underrating Kobe tho
Why Max think it’s okay to disrespect Kobe like that?
Tony Hemetona he’s a billion percent right. Kobe is fringe top 10. Shaq carried him to 3.He barely beat Boston while his team was close to as talented. He lost 2 finals, one as a massive favorite. Only one he got by himself was the one against a 23 year old Dwight Howard.
Tony Hemetona Max is right on point
Jack Y, exactly.
Jack Y STFU! CLOSE AS TALENTED? HE PLAYED 4 HOF JUST LIKE LEBRON DID WITH NOTHING
Facts disrespecting Kobe I bet Max won't say that to his face though
I don't even like Kobe, but Kobe is better then Lebron.
Kobe saying trust your teammates is the most funniest thing I heard.
No he trusted certain teammates.. he trusted guys who weren’t afraid of the moment
Magic said himself that Kobe is the greatest Laker. So many people forgot how great Kobe was.
semajgnik Only Bron stans forgot how great Kobe was. Real NBA fans know.
semajgnik same thing gonna happen to LBJ and worst, LBJ is just all hyped when these guy retires KOBE again will be the contender to compare MJ. I personally am not a Kobe fan, but i dont like him because hes that good, but LBJ i feel sad for him because of hes dickridwrs wanting him to join these and that team bla bla jist to win a ring.
Yes man im agree
Magic is being humble, everyone knows Magic is
semajgnik Kobe is overrated, I used to think Kobe was really great and in the GOAT convo till I did my own research and not listen to the media like some sheep. Do your own research into Kobe’s career and you’ll see how overrated he actually is, the numbers don’t lie
Kobe basically said build the system not be the system I don’t get why people don’t understand this
This dude gets it
since when did LBJ pass magic, bird and KB? just cuz he cake-walked to the final 9 times playing in superteams at East Conference that makes him the GOAT?
Stupid ass
And loosing on top of that smh
Sopiyoyo yeah pretty much dumbass
Nah LBJ is better than Kobe. Championship is not everything because they played at different times. Kobe would have lost GUARANTEED against Golden State this past 2 years (especially in his 15th season lol). I agree with Max, plus he never said 'he is the GOAT' he said MJ is.. Wash your ears
KB = Kevin Burant
Why does everyone hate on Kobe lol I'd go w kobe cuz I don't wnna lose more chips than I've won
Kobe ain't wrong.
The black mamba speaking truth. Kobe faced more competition and went to 3 straight finals appearance in the West (without shaq). It's stupid to think Kobe wont give the warriors a fight.
Kobes' wrong.
Come on man. Kobe is wrong. There are some teams you just can't beat. I never blamed Kobe for losing to the Suns in 06 and 07. The team just wasn't good enough.
It's the same thing here. I don't think LeBron's teammates are completely garbage, but if we compare them to the Warriors, then it's clear that there's not much you can do.
Jeesh Kobe was playing with Smush parker and kwame brown in 06-07.... All Kobe had in 08 finals was pau gasol who isn't even better than kevin love.
🏆KOBE🏃IS RIGHT🏀
Everyone is interpreting this all wrong. His point is that LeBron's teamates don't have clear roles on the team. All throughout the games each player is expected to just adjust their style of play to fit whatever LeBron is trying to do.
Kobe is saying LeBron needs to pick a role and fill it. Either be the Point Guard and have the team design the offense to have someone else be the primary scorer or be the scorer and let the PG be the primary facilitator.
Kobe was a Scorer and a Defender. A coach can design a gameplan around that.
Kobe won with broken hand and fingers put respect on his name kid
Didn't Jordan say the only person that could beat him is Kobe.🤔
Kobe getting disrespected so hard smh
sajid1891 1 good, he set him self up saying this dumb shit
sajid1891 1 it’s sad! Like it posses me off I know he is livid! This is so disrespectful
sajid1891 1 I had to like this, cuz I feel like I'm the only one that feels this way like I'm so so angry at these m************ keep talk about Kobe like he was trash like are you kidding me I think people just didn't like his personality off the court so they're a little biased but you got to admit he was a motherfuking killa on that gotdamn Court
HTTR u said kobe got carried 4/5 chips. U lost all ur credibility after that comment. No wonder no one liked ur comment. It's pure trash
Its really upseting
Phil Jackson is absolutely right….LeBron gets the rebound, brings the ball up, initiates the offense, gets the ball back and is expected to score. Jordan didn't even do all that. Let your guards bring it up and initiate the offense. How do you say you need help when you won't allow your help to help you? Hill played in SA and in Indiana when they were contenders not saying he is a star he is more than capable of doing that.
lebron wont be coached..its why the Olympic teams struggled in 04...hes his own brand...he cares more about stats then winning or giving credit to a coach or role player....
FUCKIN STRAIGHT UP FAXXXXX 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Nana Gyambibi lebron this year did not have the talent of MJ or kobe as teammates....nuff saif
SELAHPAUSE Kobe's talented teammates compare to Lebron's? Hmm let's see...
2010 Lakers | 2018 Cavs vs stacked team(4 all-stars)
Kobe (Superstar)
Pau (All Star)
Fisher, Odom, Artest, Bynum, Ariza, Walton, Farmar, Vujacic, Brown, Powell, Mbenga
Lebron (Superstar)
Love (All Star)
Smith, Hill, Korver, Thompson, Nance, Clarkson, Hood, Calderon, Osman, Zizic, Perkins
It looks like the same team composition to me... The only difference is one WON and the other didn't.
Absolutely
Kobe is way better than Lebron ! Max is too bias ....
You wild lmao.
nikster12315 is Kobe the best laker all time?? No LeBron the best Cavalier all time ?? Yes
Was Kobe always the best player on his team ?? No Was lebron?? Yes
Is Kobe the leading scorer for 3 of his rings?? No Is lebron?? Yes
Wanna debate
Joey Black yes u will lose.
Joey Black Nba players always say Kobe better fans say Lebron. I'm gone go with the players.
Fuck all dat stats shit Lebron aint fucking with Kobe. Yo basketball iq is low if u say Lebrons better.
👑KOBE
Kobe was a fighter. He would jack up multiple shots destroying his FG % before letting his team lose.
LBJ becomes passive and wants the game to be over when his team is down.
dude if your shooting a bad percentage you should someone alse take shots, it's basic maths
Elitefrm 3 yea it's fighting but also killing his team
Lmao that’s not being a warrior that’s just being stupid. That never helped Kobe win titles, but y’all forget everything negative about your favorite player when it doesn’t benefit him.
Shawn Cali
- He's attacked precisely because he's too aggressive. Russell is playing at 100 MPH while his teammates are at 60 MPH. He needs to learn when to be passive and when to be aggressive. Jacking up 12 / 35 shots is reckless and selfish. 23 of those attempts could have been converted into points not to mention it kills the team's chemistry and momentum when he tries to pull up from 3 and tries to imitate curry.
Jef Versavel it doesnt matter, when crunch time starts u the leader u can't be passive like lebron..difference between mj Kobe n lebron..mj n Kobe didn't give af about their percentage, they knew that they were the best option in crunch time even when struggling, u gotta believe u can still hit that shot, not pass it to George hill when curry is guarding him..mj n Kobe would've punished gs for switching Steph on em...
I think we can all agree Max Kellerman should stick to boxing
Jeed Why? Kobe was never in that GOAT conversation. Laker fans and die hard Kobe fans might think otherwise, but that doesn't change reality. Jordan and Bron are on another level, based on pure all around generation basketball talent-wise. Then there's Kareem, and those guys.
Btw, what about Shaq then? He's the reason Kobe has 5 rings, instead of just 2.. Shaq was the best player on that Lakers team during that 3 championship run, but nobody mentions him. Why? That's quite disrespectful
Kobe wasn't even the greatest player of his generation in the NBA, let alone one of the all-time greatest. Kobe is a guy who rode Shaq's coattails, failed to make the playoffs as the top dog, rode Gasol and Bynum for a few seasons, and finished his career playing for the worst team in the Western Conference. Never seen any other "all-time great" have such a unimpressive resume for consideration.
Actually, Kobe wasn't even the best Laker when he played; that honor belongs to Shaq. Kobe was his brand. The NBA built that brand up for business. Kobe as an Top 5 player is a meme to sell jerseys and sneakers.
Come at me Kobe knob slobberers.
AnEn Lmao
AnEn you need to be banned from commenting on CZcams about basketball for atleast 10 years
Hell yeah!! Like damn he is terrible bro smh 🤦🏾♂️
How tf is Kobe not better than Bird he can score the ball better than bird, he can pass the ball better, he plays the post better, he can play defense better, he is WAY more athletic than bird, he hit more game winners, he even has more assists total, he scored 81 points in a dam NBA game, he won 5 rings vs Birds 3 rings. Kobe made it to the playoffs more than bird he won in the playoffs more than bird. The only thing bird did better than Kobe was rebounding which is due to his position and win 2 more MVP's than Kobe but we all know Kobe deserves more MVP's because Kobe got way more All-NBA team selection than Bird. It's a well known fact Kobe is a better 1v1 player than bird and a better basketball player too. Kobe played physical too in his career because he was a lock down defender for a good 13-14 years of his career. Bird didn't even make one all NBA first team defense even with his size. I have seen Kobe play all 3 positions, I have even seen Kobe shoot with his left hand the whole game and put up great numbers doing so. I have seen Kobe drop 40 pts back to back to back with broken fingers in his shooting hand, he has even played through a false rape allegation which could have destroyed a player's reputation but Kobe fought through all of that and now y'all saying he isn't better than bird or Magic give me a break. Kobe had the dedication and the work ethic and the championships to be considered one of the best's to ever play the game of basketball.
dhruvil23 no Kobe wasn’t better than Bird.
Kobe has more talent then bird but bird has the STATS and more clutch moments i love kobe but hes overrated. Hes an all time great
Max is a fucking moron
This dumbass think kobe better than bird, what a joke
Anyone has the link to the video where kobe said this?
Everyone should listen to kobe
There's a reason ex NBA players and hall of famers including the goat and shaq choose Kobe over LeBron.......😂😂😂only media fan boys and lebron fangirls choose LeBron.
ryen mcdonald Shaq is dumb asf
ryen mcdonald They also choose Westbrook over Steph Curry....
ryen mcdonald tell me why kobe is better. Don't say he's a better scorer. Don't say he has more rings. Pls tell me a logical reason he's bettwr
ryen mcdonald YES THIS IS VERY TRUE .....
Bill 11 Rings Russell lol shaq is arrogant af... but he is far from dumb
Max drinks so much LeBron juice its not funny he hates on everyone else like Kobe and Golden State Warriors ec..... Hate hearing him speak sometimes
Denise Vara he swallows his juice sooo much he’s pregnant in the brain 🧠 lol
ONEBODY IN YAHAWASHI LOS ANGELES right agree
Stephen A.Smith tells the truth
Jt_ Ballin_23 hatin
No he gives you his opinion...That's it
It's the truth. LeBron can't guard KD. All LeBron got is stats and that just for his Legacy. If KD versus LeBron play 1v1 KD gone beat him again. But y'all can say I'm hating but I ain't a warriors fan.
imao, KD didn't beat lebron, he beat a trash cavs with three other all stars, lebron is not the best defensive player in the series and did not do much to stop kd from getting 43 points(while there are three all stars waiting to be dealt with and no way to double team kd), but kd damn sure did not stop lebron from getting 51 guarding by the whole gsw
A.smith is a dumbass. He has no basketball knowledge. Just his opinion
I would take Kobe over lebrat all day
This post is for all the 3-6 Mafia members aka Bronsexuals coming to the comment section saying Shaq carried Kobe just cause Kobe criticized Lebron once.
Okay, let's get this straight with facts. Shaq truly carried Kobe and the Lakers only ONCE through the postseason.
First Championship Run (2000):
Shaq lead scoring 16 times
Kobe lead scoring 6 times
First Round (Pts/Trb/Ast):
Shaq: 29.4/17.4/2.8
Kobe: 27.8/4.4/3.6
Second Round:
Shaq: 30.2/16.2/2.6
Kobe: 21/3.8/3.4
Third Round:
Shaq: 25.9/12.4/4.3
Kobe: 20.4/4.9/5.9
Finals:
Shaq: 38/16.7/2.3
Kobe: 15.6/4.6/4.2
Second Championship Run (2001):
Shaq lead scoring 8 times
Kobe lead scoring 8 times
First Round:
Shaq: 27/15.7/2.7
Kobe: 25/4.3/7.7
Second Round:
Shaq: 33.3/17.3/2.3
Kobe: 35/9/4.3
Third Round:
Shaq: 27/13/2.5
Kobe: 33.3/7/7
Finals:
Shaq: 33/15.8/4.3
Kobe: 24.6/7.8/5.3
Third Championship Run (2002):
Shaq lead scoring 8 times
Kobe lead scoring 9 times
First Round:
Shaq: 25.7/11.3/4
Kobe: 26/5.7/5
Second Round:
Shaq: 21.4/12.2/3.2
Kobe: 26.2/5.4/4.8
Third Round:
Shaq: 30.3/13.6/1.6
Kobe: 27.7/6.3/3.9
Finals:
Shaq: 36.3/12.3/3.8
Kobe: 26.8/5.8/5.3
Conclusion on the 3peat:
The first championship run, the most prime time Shaq ever had, carried Kobe and the Lakers all the way to the finals, but the second and third, Kobe had major contributions that enabled him to "lead" Shaq and the Lakers to the finals. But when Shaq faced weak competition, they let the offense still flow through Shaq as he is number 1. Kobe having those stats was no sidekick material, and stars in this era barely average like that, and no 21-23 yr old NBA player has done it like Kobe did while playing in the more physical league with not-so-friendly rules. Over the course of the playoffs, Kobe locked down the best perimeter players, the best options on the opposing team's scoring end such as Allen Iverson, Jason Kidd, Reggie Miller, Mark Jackson, and etc. Although he wouldn’t guard them ALL the time, but he still locked them down when the team needs it.
Fourth Run (2003, lost to eventual champion Spurs in the 2nd round):
First Round:
Shaq: 28.7/15.3/3.7
Kobe: 31.8/5.2/6.7
Second Round:
Shaq: 25.3/14.3/3.7
Kobe: 32.3/5/3.7
Fifth Championship Run (2004, lost to Pistons in the finals):
First Round:
Shaq: 16.2/11.2/3.6
Kobe: 24.4/5.6/6.2
Second Round:
Shaq: 22.5/14.5/2
Kobe: 26.3/6.3/5.8
Third Round:
Shaq: 20.7/15.7/2.8
Kobe: 24.3/4/5.5
Finals:
Shaq: 26.6/10.8/1.6
Kobe: 22.6/2.8/4.4
Conclusion after 3peat:
If you looked at Shaq’s match ups, his numbers decreased when went up against elite big men like prime Tim Duncan, Yao Ming, and etc. while only dominating weak competition. Kobe went through tougher competition his whole playoff career like good defensive stoppers in young Raja Bell, Bruce Bowen, old Reggie Miller, old Gary Payton, and lot of "Kobe stoppers", etc. That’s why you see Shaq’s numbers explode through the roof when he gets to the finals and plays against a very very weak eastern conference teams (except Detroit, whos players were able to stop him).
Kobe managed to even save Shaq in 2000 when Shaq was clearly the better player.
2000 WCF Game 7:
Kobe led team in points (25), rebs (11), assist (7), and blocks (4) and back to back clutch shot + assist to Shaq + lockdown defense. Shaq had 18 points, 9 rebounds, 5 assists, and 1 block. Shaq provided less than Kobe in a game 7 against a stacked western team = Portland with young Rasheed, Smith and, Pippen.
Shaq led the whole Lakers team in turnovers. So as to what I'm saying a lot of times, without Kobe, Shaq is a walking turnover machine and prone to fouling out.
Kobe during 2000 Finals vs Pacers:
Helped lockdown Reggie Miller while providing good stats in Game 1;
Injured by Jalen Rose in Game 2;
Did not play Game 3;
Saved Game 4 during the 4th quarter and OT with Shaq fouled out and him still recovering from the injury;
All Lakers are crap in Game 5;
And even with poor 26 points on 27% FG in Game 6, still managed to drop 10 rebounds, 4 assists, 1 steal, and 2 blocks, playing as a SHOOTING GUARD.
Conclusion to all:
Kobe EARNED all 5 rings and was the best contributor, meaning the underrated true "leader", for 3-4 of the championships, with the first 3 as the number 2 option in the offense and "sidekick" to the number 1 option Shaq. He was their best "all-around" player that can shoot and guard and also led the team in steals per game average. He also led the team in playoff win shares EVER. Kobe knew his role but maximized who he can be and played 150% almost every game, that's why he got those rings.
fallenprodigy23 FACTS 💯
fallenprodigy23 there’s no way you actually sat there and wrote all of that, damn you must be passionate. But I agree Shaq was clearly the more dominant and better player during the championship run but he didn’t carry Kobe, it’s a shame people just look at stats because in decades people will say “KD carried curry to rings” simply because curry may finish his career with no finals mvps
fallenprodigy23 raining facts...
Noname yea he's better at every aspect of the game but the most important thing which is winning.
Facts brother
Kobe all day :)
I’m sorry. Max. Kobe is better than lebron. Common man!!!
Alex Rivera LeBron is Better
Different positions different plays. No debate
LOL Kobe only retired 2 years ago. Him and Lebron have played mostly IN THE SAME DAMN ERA.
Alex Rivera no he’s not. In any single way lol
Alex Rivera u slow af
Kobe is greatest lakers of all time on and off the court and he represented Lakers for 20 Years, but anyway, Kobe was not saying none of that bullshit he just was saying what Phil Jackson told him, you all reaching
Nah homie
UltraInstinct Goku kobe is the greatest lakers hands down
cityu english they're always reaching
Shut up it's Kareem jabar
Lakers suck in general
Kobe ain’t say nothing wrong 💯
NBA Quan Kobe lost after being up 3-1 against the Suns. Then went and got Gasol(a 2nd 7 footer) AND clutch Derek Fisher. Kobe talkin oit his ass.
Of course not haters gonna hate tho thats why their here
Unc Tay Dude Kobe team that year sucked wtf you mean
NBA Quan So He was up 3-1 he still blew that lead
NBA Quan right. the cavs sucked this year. kobe said find a way to win. he couldnt find a way to win one more game. Lebron figured out a way to make it all the way to the finals.
Bron should have stayed with Pat Riley. The best coach/gm he ever had.
Max high as shit ain't no way lebron is better than Bird or Magic AND im taking Kobe over him every time
I rank Kobe over LeBron
Andy Truong how
Kobe got Jordan Farmar, Sasha Vujca-something, DJ Mbenga, Shannon Brown, Andrew Bynum, Adam Morrison, Josh Powell, Luke Walton to play championship caliber basketball. He didn't do it by passing all the time but he did it. He did it his way and won 5 times.
286mic No, Phil Jackson did. Same way he got Steve Kerr, Luc Longley, Bill Wennington to play championship ball.
Learn the history.
You forgot the coach, champ.
286mic brown played a rest series in 2010 finals Sasha played well on the ways to the finals 2008 2009 mbenga was one hell of a supporter on the bench. Mbenga way better than Perkins on the bench 😂
He won 3 of those 5 with Shaq's team, which had none of those guys. And this "championship caliber" team you mentioned was actually rotting in the lottery before they made moves for Pau Gasol and got Phil Jackson back.
wackedout13 😂😂😂😂 that boy perkins averaged 70 claps a game 🤦🏾♂️
I hate when people compare people that are that great it really devalues one or the other and makes you forget what you felt while watching them it’s not fair and they should be recognized for achieving that status in any field
Am I the only one who view Kobe’s comments as encouraging and saying “just keep trying , find a way” , , instagig ass lady”tell us what he really meant “
So in other words, 5 time champion and Hall of famer Kobe shouldn't have anything to say about 3-6 LeBron James? This is what's wrong with the sport of basketball now. No one should be above criticism. Especially from legendary ballers. You think Kobe was the only one who was ever hard on their teammates??? LeBron's game depends on him being the person he is. But he definitely did not trust and support his team in this finals. He looked frustrated every game and forced up dozens of shots after driving the ball full court with no passes. And when he did pass, it was out of a double team. He's always looking for the assist and not the best play. I've never heard him say anything about critiques from other players, only from people in the media who don't know the game of basketball. If LeBron is trying to be better than Jordan, why not take advice from Phil Jackson who molded him and Kobe who studied him?
StupidIsAsStupidDoe2
Pippen 6 Rings > Kobe 5
StupidIsAsStupidDoe2
Shaquille O'Neal 3 Finals Mvps best player on Lakers 3peat and carried Kobe to 3 sidekick rings
StupidIsAsStupidDoe2
First Ring
Kobe 15.6 ppg and 36.7% fg
Carried by
Shaq 38 ppg and 61% fg 😂
StupidIsAsStupidDoe2
LeBron 3 times led his teams to rings as best player compared to Kobe 2 times
Thank you for your words sir.. I had to compliment you. All truth.
Kobe is 110% on this. I've said it a million times, LeBron may get his team involved but he doesn't really know how to use his team to its fullest extent. Jordan had the same issue early on, he tried to do everything on his own but once he started getting a decent cast around him (and yes LeBron has a very talented cast) he fell more into his role as an elite scorer and defender and let guys like Rodman and Grant handle the boards, let guys like Pippen facilitate, let guys like Harper run the point, etc.
Truthfully, LeBron isn't nearly as good of a teammate as he's let out to be. People like playing with him because they don't have to do as much, but that in itself inlies the problem. If LeBron held Love to his same standard as his T-Wolves days then he would probably averaging 25/12, Wade and Rose could've given him 15 points each off the bench, Crowder and Jeff Green could've given at least 10/5/6 each on a regular basis. I'm guessing a team like that would've been just fine in the finals. His team doesn't perform as well as they could be LeBron doesn't make them accountable to do so, he just gets all passive-aggressive pissy like a kid instead.
D Rex same Kobe who couldn’t win and threatened the lakers to get pieces or he was leaving?
You haters kill me, you really sitting here acting like LBJ got good players around him… fucking hater
In short, he's hogging the ball
I love Kobe, but he wouldn't have got this years cleveland teams to the finals. Kobe post Shaq and pre Gasol was winning nothing.
D Rex you do know that Kobe didn't do anything post shaq and pre gasol
Thank U Stephen for backing up Kobe!
Kobe better than Lebron keeping it 💯
Kobe is way better than bird and he IS better than magic
kobe 12 all nba defense how many does bird and magic have? how many rings does bird have? kobe bryant arguably the greatest scorer of all time in his prime and he is among the greatest defenders of all time. Only point guards and lebron james have more assist all time. He is just better than bird and slightly better than magic
Keith Sweeting no he isnt stop lying to yourself not better than either and definetly not bird
well magic is better than bird and Magic Johnson himself said kobe is the greatest laker player ever so ill believe the man himself :)
Keith Sweeting magic is not better than bird the only thing he has over Bird is 2 rings, Bird is better than magic in everthing on the court
Keith Sweeting before mj dominated the league the best player was considered to be Larry Bird because the east was way harder than the west and in wins and losses everyone knew Bird was better
Kobe is the closest thing to Jordan. In an interview they asked Mike who he would hate to face 1 on 1. He said KOBE!
Good advice from Kobe
Not 1, not 2, not 3, not 4, not 5, but 6 NBA losses!😂
Alot of ppl focusing on ONE part of Kobe's statement rather than the whole thing Ppl making it seem kobe is calling Bron a bad leader or that he's hating. If anything Kobe is one of the few legends who actually gives Bron the credit and props he deserves. Imo all he's saying is Bron should instill the darker side of leader ship so to speak lol,more so a different approach.Telling them how it is, getting in their faces, holding his teammates accountable and less pat on the back moments.whether u like it or not making your teammates is really more than just passsing to them when their open.Like imprinting his mindset in them
ShowTimeGaming Problem is, no matter how much leading he does they were gonna lose to the Warriors regardless.
No matter how motivated you are, it doesn't stop those threes from raining down on you
That’s what he did in the finals tho. He didn’t pat JR on the back when he needed to.
Max what are you on my g!?
SnewJ What up!! ✌🏾
Bro they were all zooted af!
SnewJ Bath Salts
Snewj homie destroyed your new bmw damn! you took it pretty calm g,
He on the truth 🤷🏾♂️
Kobe! 🐐
That’s a great idea from Phil and Kobe.
People have some short term memory issues when it comes to Kobe's greatness. 5 titles, defensive and offensive beast, remember what he did with the bums on his 2 championship teams without Shaq. He is the Gold standard when it comes to MJ comparisons. 20 years with the Lakers, pure dominance on BOTH ends of the floor.
Right im getting mad reading these comments Kobe out played the goats and then their kids haha 8 or 24 you choose
Ahh "both" ends of the court. Anotha youngster who doesnt realize kobe was a little overrated defensively
Dj Tzonev lol “bums on his 2 championship teams” but he had the best froncourt in the NBA arguably and the best coach and one of the deepest benches...
Nate That Dude lol you’re young if you think kobe defense is overrated he has second most defensive team selections next to Garnett you don’t just get on that list for nothing lol I guess lebron deserves more 1st team all defense selections huh 😂😂😂😂
Nate That Dude how Kobe was overrated defense he was defensive first team 12 times in a row
Shaq without Kobe as a Starter (6 seasons): 1993 (missed NBA playoffs). 1994 (0-4 vs pacers in NBA playoffs). 1995 (0-4 vs. Rockets in NBA playoffs). 1996(0-4 vs Bulls in NBA playoffs). 1997 (1-4 vs Jazz in NBA playoffs). 1998 (0-4 vs Jazz in NBA playoffs). 0 NBA All-Defesive teams, 0 MVPs, 0 Rings.
Tanqrae Kobe without shaq: two rings. Jordan without pippen: 0 rings. Bron without wade, kyrie: 0 rings
Tanqrae Goodness me..
Winning duhh Jordan and Pippen don’t count, they were teammates who literally played through majority of their entire career together
Tanqrae Kobe was a fucking kid!
Nvious Xpressions Im talking about Shaq on the Magic team before he got to the Lakers.
Ppl only remember what they seen yesterday smh young Kobe was a beast offensively and defensively max can’t be serious
KD 161 thank you!
I like how nba fans equate individual greatness to a team's greatness.
I vomit as soon as max starts talking.
Sometimes I cannot even believe what he says
lol for real he dont know shit
Ry how hes speaking fax
LeMagic James what are facts to you?
to skip vomiting, skip from 0:18-2:39
Max here's a reminder for you. KOBE won a 2010 finals series against a stacked Celtics team who had 4 all stars. GTFOH with those excuses
Uchawi Beatz Official then got swept by the mavs...a team that yall slander lebron for losing to
trilluminate you really compare Kobe's team to the 2011 Miami Heat? Plus Kobe never got swept in the Finals.
Lakers was the 1 seed in the NBA that season
Uchawi Beatz Official And if you watched game 7 Kobe folded with 13 points. Ron Artest took over that game
trilluminate fax only I love Kobe but he got bad losses on his resume as well
Ty, Kobe. Even Kobe is saying this.
I'd Like to see LBJ play defense as well as he plays offense,
LeBron looks like an average human on a basketball court while MJ or BM were more like highly skilled basketball gods.
Max dead ass wrong today
only true hoopers know what he's saying. You can shoot a team out the game by making shots. He played no defense, didnt cut. kobe wants lebron to pick his spots much, much better
Max is stupid. Kobe is better than lebron
Boy Stop Max is always wrong when he speaks on Kobe
Boy Stop, Actually people that aren't stupid, and know basketball agree that max is correct. LeBron over Kobe.
When isn't the guy wrong
Kobe wasn’t calling out lebron. ESPN just reaching since they have nothing else to report.
Ppl forgot game 7 vs boston. Kobe just couldn't make shots... But he contributed to the rebounds and defense.. His team mates stepped up..
The last thing on the video Sas said was the most true things I’ve ever been told😂😂
How is he better then Kobe again??????
Mr. O right
He 6'9 260 😂😂😂 that makes every one a spot up shooter that's why Heat didn't win 3,4 5,6 or 7 championships 😂
Mr. O let me count the ways!!
He's made BSPN more money.
Mr. O other than bricking yeah he is better at everything
OMG Kobe never passed bird???? Tf he been passed Larry and magic. Magic and Kareem, Jerry west says Kobe the best Laker of all time. Max and Wright slander Kobe beyond words
Jalil Johnson Well I have Kobe third on my all time list just behind MJ and magic. But yes they do slander him especially nick squidward wright
Jalil Johnson no kobe is higher than Lebron on the all time list but Bird is only second to mj when it comes to guards/forwards
Noname and way better than lebron as well
Jalil Johnson facts
Jerry West said it so case closed. Lmao.. Kobe is behind Magic and Kareem. #Facts
Max just said that the 2000 Lakers underachieved when they won 3 straight championships and was completely dominating the league. It's also not all Kobe's fault they didn't completely work together.
Josh Miles It is his fault actually. Phil Jackson + teammates were not happy with Kobe's selfish play. Infact at one point they wanted to trade him. Sad but true.
Josh Miles That duo could have one 2-3 more championships. In that sense they underachieved. That's what Max meant.
Watching Cleveland play is like watching a 5 out offense practice drill
I know max didn't just say LeBron is better than Kobe!!!!
Who's more efficient? Don't do any research just type it..
Nathan Osbourne efficient at Winning when it counts, e.g. NBA Finals? Kobe.
Efficient at pad statting? LeBron.
Tranquil Animal Jam lover , you gotta ignore wax sellerman on this topic
So more efficient means better? OK, who's a better defender? Who's a better scorer? Who has more titles? Oh, that doesn't matter, just efficiency.
He was their leading scorer cause Kobe deferred like a great player does when you have a 300lb behemoth in paint. Shaq needed a player like to win 3 rings. If Kobe isn't there, Shaq wins nothing. He needed a guard like Wade to win a ring. Not a Kobe fan, just facts.
Lebron had to win by teaming up with Dwayne Wade, Chris Bosh, Ray Allen, Kyrie Irving, Kevin Love. Kobe was only in his early 20s when he was with Shaq and won 3 titles in a row. Did it again in his late 20s early 30s by winning 2 titles with Pau who doesn't even have the same numbers as nearly all of those players Lebron teamed up with. Kobe had less help than Lebron and still won 2 titles in a row - let that sink in.
battlecat403
Kobe Bryant had Shaquille O'Neal 3 Finals Mvps best player on Lakers 3peat and Phil Jackson 😂😂😂
battlecat403
Since we counting Ray Allen who was almost 40 years old
Kobe Bryant had Shaquille O'Neal and Glen Rice two all stars
battlecat403 yeah and Kobe was on a franchise team that hade 11 championships before he got there and coached by a legend.
Right man they all disrespecting kobe
James Jackson Kobe didn’t have a super team tho him and Shaq was a duo
Dude Kobe is sharing lessons he’s learned through the years people tend to look at this as arrogance. In no means is Kobe saying he’s up there with Mike and Lebron he’s just giving back feedback. Just how a mentor teaches an apprentice. Just listen and breakdown what Kobe is saying and you’ll understand. Where’s he’s coming from. But never question this dudes work ethic.
i agree to Kobe & Stephen A. said👍
Statistically, no one is better than Lebron. Other than that, I'd love to take Jordan or Kobe over him any day. Its a team game. Jordan and Kobe are just two of the best winners we've ever seen.
Philly Watts What stats are you talking about? Wins and losses is the most important stat. Longevity stats are not better than per/gm stats. Quality is better than quantity. And while you are doing stats include, defensive stats, turnovers, free throws, scoring titles, season and playoffs scoring averages, steals and blocked shots. Jordan beats LeBron in every statistical category except turnovers. LeBron only beats Jordan by 1 assist/ gm, and 1.5 rebounds/ gm. Jordan has 10 seasons where he scored more points than LeBron. He has 11 seasons where he has more steals and blocked shots. Defensive player of the year award. 9× defensive first team. Third all time in steals. If LeBron plays 20 yrs he will not have better per game averages than Jordan. Jordan has highest PER in NBA history. Most efficient player and best two way player in NBA history. Jordan is the GOAT because of sustained brilliance. Every year he scored more points than any other NBA player. Longevity has its place but quality is better than quantity. Per game stats tell a true story of a players impact in real time. Career accumulative stats are a function of endurance and not skill or will. If you play long enough you will get career records. But give me one year where you average 37.1 pts/gm and have over 3 steals/gm, with 131 blocks. Jordan has highest scoring average in NBA history, regular season, playoffs, and finals. Third all time in steals. LeBron is not in the top ten in any category. Rebounds, assist, etc.... Not in top ten except in scoring. But not scoring average, which is a better barometer than cumulative #'s. If you play 15 years you should have some attainments. Jordan basically accumulated his stats in 11 years. The two years in Washington diminished his career stats, and yet he is still #1, even above Chamberlain at #2.
Philly Watts Jordan is better than him statistically I’m so tired of people saying this go look please
Philly Watts with less games
Adlib King Jordan has highest PER.
Jordan 10×'s better defensively.
So who has Lebron made better on his team..... the answer is no one Cleveland runs their offense 100 percent through Lebron and they try to make guys spot up 3pt shooter when that’s not their game. Players don’t get better with Lebron people need to stop saying that
kevin mitchell r u on crack bro
cdgeeezy Ok if I’m on crack then tell me the players that got better playing with Lebron or is that just a lie
kevin mitchell Mike miller,kyrie,zek,MO Williams, boobie gibson,tristan,lewish,James jones,mario,cedi osman,della,. Many more but I don't feel like writing the rest
Enlightenment .W U say Lebron made those players better but then those r the same players u Lebron fans call trash when he loses so which is it
Enlightenment .W you listed terrible player barring Kyrie who had game WAY before LeBron
Allen Iverson and many others say Kobe is in his top 5. I respect the players!
"Look at all them Cavs standing around just watching" - i mustve said that like 100 times during the series
LeBron is better than Kobe at Flopping, making excuses, giving up and getting swept in the Finals. 3-6!
Scott Cinco Kobe never met lebron in the finals. Hm...at lebron can make it to the finals to be swept kobe can’t even get out the first round
Scott Cinco Kobe is better than LeBron at MFG and winning Championships without even being the finals MVPs.
Claudio Gomes then how come kobe could never meet lebron in the finals?
I'm taking kobe over LeBron in a finals series. Lebroom had no fight about him this year after game 1. No way kobe let's that happen.
Scott Whittaker ma nigga he did everything before that wtf you want him to do score 100
nick belnavis do whatever it takes wilt did it🤫🤷♂️
Scott Whittaker
+40 Point NBA Finals Games
LeBron 7 > Kobe 1 😂
+50 Point Finals Games
LeBron 1 > Kobe 0
NBA Finals Avg +33 ppg
LeBron 3 > Kobe 0
NBA Finals Teammate avg +33 ppg
Kobe 3 > LeBron 0
LeBron James > Kobe Bryant
Shaquille O'Neal 3 Finals Mvps best player on Lakers 3peat and Kobe Bryant sidekick
First Ring
Kobe 15.6 ppg and 36.7% fg
Carried by
Shaq 38 ppg and 61% fg
Finals Mvps
LeBron 3 > Kobe 2
Nick he was balling. But he doesn't incorporate his teammates to eat like him.. they will never be Bron, but Kobe is saying that in order to win everyone gotta score..
Kobe never had to score as much in the finals because they played together.. Bron and Kobe both lost in the finals with superstar. Shaw and Dwade.
On some black shit my nigga. You can't honestly say Bron brings him teammates down by not allowing them to do their job and play their position?
The entire finals Bron bought the ball up the court.. nigga let the point guard run that. Creating plays off the ball. There is no trust.
SAS 👏🏼
Daniel Salgado I applaud but he could have and should have said more!
You can tell a person to work harder or play better. It’s only up to that individual to either step up themselves or they will not and stay where they are at. Tough for Cavs.
If Kobe hasn’t passed Bird or Magic In any conclusive way then neither has LeBron.
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Just Bake Exactly!
Brandon Ingram’s Burner Account W!
🔥🔥🔥SAD FACT : PEOPLE IS MORE INTERESTED ABOUT LEBRON NEW TEAM THAN GSW CHAMPIONSHIP 😂😂😂
GOAT TV sooo true people are very excited looking forward for Lebron new superteam for the soul purpose is to crush the gsw then its still went back down to the gsw the main topic! Warriors 💪💪💪
GOAT TV what more is there to be said about the Warriors championship ??
Because they're boring lol everybody knew they was going to win
Steven Brazzell You can't name a more entertaining team to watch in the NBA than the Warriors.
sad fact: nba = no competition
Damn Max hit them with the Truth!!!!
Kobe>Lebron
LeBron vs. Kobe
Wins: 16 : 6
Better in pts: 14:8
Better in rebs: 15:4
Better in asts: 15:6
Better in stls: 13:4
Better in blks: 10:2
LBJ: 28,2/7,4/7,3/1,9/0,7
KB: 24,6/5,0/5,2/1,1/0,2
Put down the crack pipe
Kobe is way better than lebron..I dont know why they even comparing
Big Deuce right
Big Deuce umm because other than rings... LBJ has Kobe beat in all dimensions from a basketball standpoint
They aren’t comparing, Kobe is 😂 . The comparison is between LeBron and Jordan, Kobe just butt hurt
Kobe is not even a top 10 player. Bootleg MJ.
Way better? Idk bout that. But he might be slightly better
Kobe won 5 championships with D Fish at point lol come on man 🤦🏽♂️
You forgot Shaq, Gasol, Bynum and oh yea, the coach with the most NBA championships in history. Keep glossing over that.
Josh Ruiz lebron had Wade and bosh and lost to Dirk with a bunch of role players. No excuses. Lebron has played on teams where he was the favorite and lost
The only time he was a favorite and lost was 2011...
He was underdog in 7 of his 9 Finals, so actually overchieved LMAO.
Erionna Haynes 3 of those were with shaq did u forget that
You can't be better than Kobe one minute then "can't be compared to Kobe" the next
Kobe
MJ
Lebron
Kareem
Magic
MarMeez perfect
Not raising beef but kobe at the same age had been plagued by injuries, enters and practice in arena early and leaves last. And still plays hard from 1st qrtr to last. Wants the ball at end game.
My point is, kobe does alot in terms of preparation, during and after the game more than lebron and lebron still arguing about fatigue? I dont really buy it. Mj had problems with fatigue too but he finishes the game even if it is double OT. Theres something wrong about lebron.
Kobe indeed is alot closer to jordan in terms competitiveness and motivation.
nephz ice and how do you know how much work Lebron puts into basketball? Just because someone doesn’t talk about it doesn’t mean he’s not putting in work. You don’t become the best player on the planet by sitting around playing fortnite.
Sam Smith why are u mad? I never said he didnt work himself out. Even bench players put some work. Cut your nonsense. Like i said theres no beef here. Im just telling u somethings wrong about your idol. *And yes he did point out in post game that hes tired because the media thinks he lack something* he actually raised his voice about it.
Well i dont think u could defend this. Basketball fans in general knows. *Of course lebron fans will argue non stop and mob this comment* doesnt matter.
*Kobe work ethics > lebron work ethics*
Deal with it bro.
nephz ice clearly there is beef if you basically just attacked his will to play and basically saying he doesn’t prepare enough and doesn’t want the ball at the end of the game. Sorry if I just took your comment and flipped it on it’s head and you don’t like it. And just because you say no beef here doesn’t mean shit that’s like saying I’m not racist and then telling a racist joke.
nephz ice don’t want someone to kill your comment don’t write dumb shit. And never said lebron was my idol. Actually Kobe is my favorite player but I’m not a biased prick. When I see greatness I don’t turn my back on it.
nephz ice and how do you know kobe does all of that but lebron doesn’t? You think getting to 8 straight finals and never missing more than 60 games in a season is cuz he has low motivation? Get off kobes sacks jesus christ
Kobe is better than Bird gtfo Max
Lake Show no he ain't.....bird had to get past INDIANA, THE KNICKS, BAD BOYS PISTONS, BARKLEY, ERVING AND DAWKINS SIXERS, JUST TO BEAT HOF MAGICS LAKERS ....FUCK OUTTA HERE WHO ELSE GOT PAST THAT MUCH OF COMPETITION AND SUCCEEDED.
Lake Show No he isn't!
What does bird do better then Kobe besides playmaking and rebounding? 3 point shooter? That’s about it. Bird ain’t fucking with Kobe period!!
Kobe got past dynastys as well how come he was the most 50 wins team eliminated in the playoffs
Abe B pure jump shooting passing iq list goes on and on was a better rebounder stealer teammate etc
Basically LeBron be a part of the team don’t be the team
Kobe is more skilled than LeBron. And that's coming from asking 50 of the biggest skill trainers in America. Let's get people who don't understand the game off TV like Nick Wright and Cowherd.
People don't understand this concept. They see statistics and they equate that with real skill and that isn't the case. Statistics are easy to come by in this NBA. LeBron is one of the uglier players we have seen in basketball. He has no post game, he has mid-range game, his jump-shot is erratic, he doesn't shoot free throws well, his handle is suspect, and he is not a great on the ball defender. Those are all facts.
Because he wasn’t as physically gifted.
What do Kobe do better then lebron?? Lol don’t let that hate make you look like the obvious lol come on people
Andrew singleton Triple threat, 1 dribble pull-up, 2 dribble pull-up, fade away, fall away, on ball defense, pump fake, 1 legged shot, catch and shoot, handle, Hakeem dream shake, sky hook, back to basket from elbow, back to basket from block... I could go on... if he had LeBron body it be game over. Think about it.. he's most difficult shot maker of all time. Now make the shots easier because he is taller and bigger? Be scary. Especially w his dominance in the paint. What stats don't show is that equality of outcome isn't equated with equal opportunity. CP3 doesn't have same equal opportunity as Shaq for obvious reasons so of course one person is gonna have better FG pct, etc but it doesn't show who is more skilled. Trust me there are levels to understanding bball. The people who develop players say Kobe is more skilled and that is revealing.
ce You're confusing stats with impact.