Magnavox Videowriter keyboard review (Alps SKCM Brown)

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  • čas přidán 29. 06. 2018
  • Skip to 10:38 for a typing demonstration.
    FINALLY, we take a look at brown Alps switches! I present you the Magnavox Videowriter, and one in mint condition to boot!
    My keyboard reviews: bit.ly/1TbOtft
    My switch teardowns: bit.ly/2C1QGHz
    My TOP X videos: bit.ly/2FmpZfd
    I'm Thomas and I do videos and reviews on mechanical keyboards ranging from the most sickening modern RGB gaming keyboards to vintage hardware relics, or sometimes keycaps or keyswitches ranging from Cherry MX to Alps SKCM to IBM buckling springs and anything in between.
    Follow me on Twitter for updates on my keyboard videos! / chyrosran22
    The practice sentence was: "Hello my name is Thomas I'm typing on a Magnavox Videowriter right now. Finally we look at a brown Alps keyboard! I really hope you enjoyed watching it, this is a great keyboard!"
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Komentáře • 135

  • @JensRoland
    @JensRoland Před 5 lety +74

    That’s my keyboard build at 3:44! I am honoured!

  • @Robo10q
    @Robo10q Před 5 lety +25

    Noyce! The special DO/HELP/UNDO keys are interesting. They seem to be the common order of steps taken by people who do not RTFM.

  • @SonicBoone56
    @SonicBoone56 Před 5 lety +52

    Medium ass enter, an average ass backspace. Lol

  • @d33b33
    @d33b33 Před 5 lety +6

    That's a satisfyingly classic click from those Alps brown. Louder than I expected.

    • @Chyrosran22
      @Chyrosran22  Před 5 lety +4

      Basically, everything Alps is loud xD . Except those dampened switches, which are very quiet.

  • @user-yz1pu4to6g
    @user-yz1pu4to6g Před 5 lety +36

    3:20 This keyboard will make typing great again!

  • @northernwing8191
    @northernwing8191 Před 5 lety +12

    "Some of the most inferior pieces of infernal poopshit I've ever come across."
    I died. Yep, I'm gonna go ahead and use that one in our next quarterly performance review.

  • @nnthayer
    @nnthayer Před 5 lety +12

    Wonderful analysis. We had an IBM PC Convertible when I was younger, and I always thought its keyboard was remarkably good. I've never seen the same type of switches used on any other keyboards since then. Nice to see it getting some recognition.

  • @XalphYT
    @XalphYT Před 5 lety +10

    Those are really nice stepped keys. The steps are not so wide as to create canyons between the keys, yet wide enough to give the keyboard a little bit of distinctiveness.

    • @Chyrosran22
      @Chyrosran22  Před 5 lety +5

      The caps are excellent, but I must admit I had difficulty getting used to the shift keys. It's noticeably harder to hit them with those steps in them.

  • @2dfx
    @2dfx Před 5 lety +6

    man why do these things always sound so NOIIICE

  • @BrettMack44
    @BrettMack44 Před 5 lety +21

    Great video! Brown alps are the best tactile switches out there in my opinion. I hope one day someone finds a good solution to converting these because it is really a shame that people tear these apart for the switches.

    • @Chyrosran22
      @Chyrosran22  Před 5 lety +11

      I see you've already found the video xD . Completely agree though, this is a nice board, why destroy it?!

    • @masterinsan0
      @masterinsan0 Před 5 lety +11

      I'm looking forward to the day that someone picks up the proverbial torch and starts reproducing old ALPS designs. I mean, you've got Matias out there making bastardized versions, but I'm talking legit reproductions of SKCM-series switches, sort of like what Ellipse is doing with the buckling springs in the Model F reproductions.

    • @Chyrosran22
      @Chyrosran22  Před 5 lety +8

      That'd be great. The whole world should be able to try out Alps :) .

  • @nathanmiddleton1478
    @nathanmiddleton1478 Před rokem

    This popped up in the YT algorithm. I do watch your videos and they always make me reminiscent of all my old keyboards from childhood. I really wish I could afford to go out and buy and restore something like this for my own computer now. This keyboard would be wonderful!

  • @Weltschmerzification
    @Weltschmerzification Před 5 lety +6

    I feel like a unicorn because I have two Filco Zeros. One with blue alps and one with brown. I want two more, one with a linear alps switch and another with neon green ones. Perhaps one day

  • @PhilipAlexanderHassialis
    @PhilipAlexanderHassialis Před 5 lety +12

    Although they are tactile, something in the way they sound as they get pressed during the typing demonstration made me think of purely linear switches.

    • @Chyrosran22
      @Chyrosran22  Před 5 lety +7

      Trust me, they're REALLY not xD . But I can guess why, it's probably the roundedness of the feel.

    • @PhilipAlexanderHassialis
      @PhilipAlexanderHassialis Před 5 lety +4

      Hm, I think I understand what you are saying, after all I 've only been exposed to the Cherries and lately to Matias quiets, so when I saw the brown color I instictively connected it to the Cherry MX shit which of course has a somewhat audible actuation point+tactile bump transition sound.

    • @Chyrosran22
      @Chyrosran22  Před 5 lety +9

      These are about ten billion times more tactile than MX Shit :p .

  • @joshuarichards2421
    @joshuarichards2421 Před 4 lety +1

    I found one of these today, that has been faithfully maintained and used up until this year. I got it thinking it was an interesting piece of history, but I have been typing on the thing all day! I LOVE the Brown ALPS!

  • @mr.y.mysterious.video1
    @mr.y.mysterious.video1 Před 5 lety +22

    The eBay example looks like it was owned by someone who chain smoked

    • @nu_types2677
      @nu_types2677 Před 5 lety +10

      Or left it out in the sun for years

    • @CommodoreFan64
      @CommodoreFan64 Před 5 lety +1

      Giorgio Rafaelle If that one had the life my late aunt's Smith Corona PWP 350 had sitting on a home office desk for years near a window that got a lot of sun then your right. I had to do some serious retrobrite to the keys on that poor board before putting the machine up for sale on eBay last year.

  • @Soei23
    @Soei23 Před 5 lety +1

    First thing I noticed during the typing demonstration is the sound the spacebar makes. Damn that was a good sound! Sounded way better than the rest of the board!

  • @Phulax.
    @Phulax. Před 5 lety +1

    Ì absolutely adore the sound of the Green switches in the Zenith.

    • @Chyrosran22
      @Chyrosran22  Před 5 lety +2

      It's a great keyboard if you like linears :D .

  • @UnrelentingAssault
    @UnrelentingAssault Před 5 lety +1

    Hot damn, nice video dude. I have one loose Brown Alps switch and everyday I covet having a board with them. Thanks for the video. :)

  • @alwaysAbathur
    @alwaysAbathur Před 5 lety +78

    Review the butterfly keyboard from Apple
    Lol

    • @user-yz1pu4to6g
      @user-yz1pu4to6g Před 5 lety +25

      Why not a sheet of glass? it feel the same.

    • @KarrasBastomi
      @KarrasBastomi Před 5 lety

      to the top my friend

    • @Chyrosran22
      @Chyrosran22  Před 5 lety +22

      Heh, I'm sure at some point someone will send me one for review xD .

    • @NaPH273
      @NaPH273 Před 5 lety +3

      Apple scissor switch keyboard? i remember Tom reviewed it

    • @Chyrosran22
      @Chyrosran22  Před 5 lety +24

      No, that's a different one. That one was clearly nowhere near crap enough for Apple - recently event hey themselves admitted their Butterfly switches were poopshit xD .

  • @robr640
    @robr640 Před 5 lety

    Finally get to hear your thoughts on SKCM browns! SKCM browns are the king of tactile ALPS IME! I got the pleasure of doing a build for a friend that used SKCM browns recently & was shocked at much better they feel than say SKCM orange or salmon. TBH neon greens are the only tactile ones I'd put above browns, but the feel is so different between them & any other SKCM tactile switches I kinda feel they are their own type of switch. Which are excellent switches IMO as well. Of course as you said they are very rare & expensive so I hold out hope that I will one day have a KB with SKCM browns, but still put that more into my pipe dream category LOL!

  • @SudosFTW
    @SudosFTW Před 5 lety +2

    I had one of these as a kid (somewhere around 2005), but it was Panasonic branded. Most of them have gone by the wayside in the dumpster when people harvest the CRT out of those for HP-80 series computers that need that wide tube. oh god. I can recall doing so many school assignments on it, saved to a 720K disk, printed out the top, and it was a loud experience at that. Eventually used up the ink ribbon and neither of my parents wished upon me to use that infernal thing any further and forced me to be rid of it. I miss it, and its amazing keyboard, dearly.

    • @dumdum7786
      @dumdum7786 Před 5 lety

      why did you let your parents get rid of it?

  • @ruzby3530
    @ruzby3530 Před 5 lety +4

    nice video Chyrosran :P
    what a good voice

  • @leahknight1230
    @leahknight1230 Před 5 lety +4

    love your videos i never new about vintage keyboards b4 i watched your videos the ibm m122 is going to be my first board :) thank you

    • @Redhotsmasher
      @Redhotsmasher Před 5 lety

      leah Knight Model Ms are damn nice keyboards, both my vintage boards are Model Ms (but regular European layout PC ones), one's my daily driver and the other one has (according to the eBay seller anyway) only been out of its box and tested once when it was new and sits in its box as a spare. Would love to own an F122 one day though.

    • @leahknight1230
      @leahknight1230 Před 5 lety +1

      very hard to get hold of i was going for a f 122 but had to go for M 122 since f is way too expencive

    • @Redhotsmasher
      @Redhotsmasher Před 5 lety

      leah Knight That is the problem with the F122, you don't see them often and when they do show up on eBay they're damn pricey.

    • @leahknight1230
      @leahknight1230 Před 5 lety

      well for them who dont know you could alway claim your M is and F

  • @robr640
    @robr640 Před 5 lety +1

    I just got a Magnavox Videowriter myself & it is pretty much the same as yours. Not NOS, but damn close. Very very clean, especially the switches & it was made in 1986 also. If I had to guess it was never used or only used very few times by the original owner, then was very lightly used by any enthusiast owners it's had since then. The switches feel the same as the few NOS loose SKCM browns I have, even though the seller rated them 8 out of 10. Overall I have to agree with you, it is one great feeling board with a very usable layout.
    With this board too I'm coming around more to your point of view on collecting vintage boards. I had originally planned to harvest the browns for a custom ALPS 60% build, but after getting the board in my hands & giving it try I decided it's too nice & rare of a keyboard for harvesting. I plan on converting mine to USB, making a custom keymap for it, & using it as is. I know there is a few people who have successfully converted these to USB by removing the stock cable, installing a Teensy or Pro Micro, & running a USB cable out from that. Although I would really like to find a way to keep the original cord & use some type of plug in converter like a Soarer's converter if possible.
    Anyways great review as always & PM me on here or GH if you still haven't converted yours. I'd be more than happy to pass on anything I learn about the process as I research it & tinker with mine. These boards are too nice to sit in a collection in an unusable state IMHO! 😉

  • @darkholyPL
    @darkholyPL Před 5 lety +4

    You got a hold of some browns, eh?
    Still one that eludes me... and I would really like to try them.

  • @jonathanparkes8977
    @jonathanparkes8977 Před 5 lety

    typed loads on the video writer at school for prep. was an excellent machine with a great keyboard.

  • @unknown96565
    @unknown96565 Před 5 lety +6

    That arrow keys are *BIGLY*

  • @themadoneplays7842
    @themadoneplays7842 Před 5 lety +1

    Dang that nav at the top, holy crap someone please bring that back!
    Reminds me of the Playstation d pad a little though diagonals are probably going to be a pain (thus is why I still prefer controllers for fighting games like street fighter with a analog thumb stuck)

  • @tobylaroned
    @tobylaroned Před 5 lety

    Ever considered reviewing any of the Thinkpad desktop USB keyboards? Would be interested to see your opinions regarding it

  • @vwestlife
    @vwestlife Před 5 lety +2

    Actually it was Commodore who destroyed the TI-99/4A, not IBM. Under Jack Tramiel, Commodore slashed the prices of their VIC-20 and C64 computers so much that in order to compete, Texas Instruments ended up selling the 99/4A for less than what it cost to make them, driving them out of the home computer business.

    • @Chyrosran22
      @Chyrosran22  Před 5 lety +2

      VWestlife yes, technically they weren't even in the same business xD .

    • @Chyrosran22
      @Chyrosran22  Před 5 lety +2

      I didn't say IBM killed off the Ti-99 though, I just meant that because IBM were dominating the PC market so much, other companies vied for the cheaper markets.

  • @masterinsan0
    @masterinsan0 Před 5 lety +1

    Goddamn, this keyboard sounds good. Ever since I first tried a loose Brown switch, I've wanted a keyboard with Browns. Based on my single loose switch, they feel the most like what I think a tactile switch should feel like. I've been trying to fill the gap with Zealios for years now but, while great, they're just not the same.

  • @buttguy
    @buttguy Před 5 lety

    i grew up with a Videowriter! It was my first "Computer"...as it was computer-esque but strictly a word processor. My parents still have it...I should grab it!

  • @GeoStreber
    @GeoStreber Před 5 lety +1

    can you review the keyboard of the Commodore 64?

  • @cat-em3mj
    @cat-em3mj Před 5 lety

    can you make a review about the ikbc cd108, thanks
    i can't find reviews about them

  • @NaPH273
    @NaPH273 Před 5 lety +22

    wanna hear a joke?
    Razer's new Opto mechanical switches

    • @bashisobsolete.pythonismyn6321
      @bashisobsolete.pythonismyn6321 Před 5 lety +1

      The Future Is Optic #TEDx

    • @unknown96565
      @unknown96565 Před 5 lety +2

      Even better joke -
      Razor Glass Keyboard (in future)

    • @0name933
      @0name933 Před 5 lety +3

      Razer Opto? More like Bloody LK Libra copy.

    • @Cris-P-Bacon
      @Cris-P-Bacon Před 5 lety

      They make it sound like they made it first lol

    • @Toblehrone
      @Toblehrone Před 5 lety +1

      The optical aspect of the switches don't even give any actual advantage like something like the Bloody LK or especially the Wooting - it's legit just a contact switch but the contacts are replaced with a laser, no matter what it's still binary.

  • @nxzhang
    @nxzhang Před 5 lety +4

    Did you change your Top 5 Tactile Switches Ranking after using brown Alps?

    • @ethur10n
      @ethur10n Před rokem

      He pretty much did, Alps SKCM “Lime” being the closest successor to Brown.

  • @DiViCoda
    @DiViCoda Před 5 lety

    How about philips ones? Those can have browns to?

  • @IIIJFRIII
    @IIIJFRIII Před 5 lety +1

    Amazingness.

  • @nthn-
    @nthn- Před 5 lety +2

    I think I'd actually enjoy watching you attack the razer huntsman just as a contrast to everyone else...

  • @thecroutoncave1924
    @thecroutoncave1924 Před 5 lety +1

    YES, FINALLY!

  • @lucidnonsense942
    @lucidnonsense942 Před 5 lety +5

    I'm going to stand on a corner and sell my browns in little baggies now...

    • @Chyrosran22
      @Chyrosran22  Před 5 lety +5

      You're not the first one; people have been doing that for years :p . Cruelty to classic keyboards!

    • @bashisobsolete.pythonismyn6321
      @bashisobsolete.pythonismyn6321 Před 5 lety +2

      my browns are cut with plumber's grease. really mellow. it's like everything's in slow-mo. i know this guy in notting hill. he can get you some.

  • @CommodoreFan64
    @CommodoreFan64 Před 5 lety

    Indeed a nice board, and I'm thinking it would make a decent layout for a Chrome OS based system. I hope you can get your hands on a few different Chrome specific keyboards at some point, even if they are not mechanical just to comment out their layout.

  • @symplesy2056
    @symplesy2056 Před 5 lety +1

    HESS DONE IT

  • @Palozon
    @Palozon Před 5 lety +2

    I know classic keyboards are your thing, but I'd love to see what you thing of the new razer huntsman keyboard. All the reviews I've seen seem pretty ill-informed, by people who've pretty much only had exoerience with mx switches, and only in the context of playing games.
    Getting an opinion from someone who knows what the hell they're talking about would be nice.

    • @doctorn0gloff
      @doctorn0gloff Před 5 lety

      Yep, those purple switches, apart from the laser sensing thing, look fairly interesting in terms of their wacky design and how they managed a clicky feel (because I can’t spot where or what the clicker is from the other videos)

    • @Chyrosran22
      @Chyrosran22  Před 5 lety +2

      I'd loive to review one, but they are very expensive. I might need to have them send over a sample for review.

  • @Big_Tex
    @Big_Tex Před 5 lety +2

    Hey I used to have a word processor in the early 90s. I think it maybe was a Brother.

    • @Chyrosran22
      @Chyrosran22  Před 5 lety +3

      Yes, Brother mad similar machines back in the day. They had several interesting switches of their own.

    • @yanguYT
      @yanguYT Před 4 lety

      @@Chyrosran22 are you gonna review them?

    • @Chyrosran22
      @Chyrosran22  Před 4 lety

      @@yanguYT I did a Teardown video on one of them a long time ago. The other one is more difficult to get hold of.

  • @revered9631
    @revered9631 Před 5 lety

    may i ask where cani buy keyboards like this?

    • @Genesis-ne9tr
      @Genesis-ne9tr Před 5 lety

      U could even look in a thrift store u might get lucky

  • @pdnaa
    @pdnaa Před 5 lety +3

    Can you review Hertog Jan? Bedankt :)

  • @leafyclass
    @leafyclass Před 5 lety +2

    Old keyboard + Japan = *vaporwave*

  • @tommo4559
    @tommo4559 Před 5 lety

    Damm, I want an Alps board.

  • @theairismoist6441
    @theairismoist6441 Před 3 lety

    SKCM Browns are the og zealios V2

  • @MrJAM-np7go
    @MrJAM-np7go Před 5 lety +3

    Alps SKCM brown price has sky-rocketed recently. I think one of the main reason is you and your video ;P

    • @Chyrosran22
      @Chyrosran22  Před 5 lety +4

      ALREADY?! :p

    • @MrJAM-np7go
      @MrJAM-np7go Před 5 lety +4

      Any alps related inflation is caused by you! XD. Please praise the Cherries!

    • @thecroutoncave1924
      @thecroutoncave1924 Před 5 lety +1

      I got mine for $350 before it. Your telling me the prices went further

  • @andljoy
    @andljoy Před 5 lety +2

    Did you ever do a tipro ? Do a tipro !

    • @Chyrosran22
      @Chyrosran22  Před 5 lety +2

      I've owned multiple for several years now xD . But I keep having to delay them!

  • @j.c.k.6883
    @j.c.k.6883 Před 5 lety

    are you planning to sell some of your keyboards to subscribers?

  • @jacobhan593
    @jacobhan593 Před 5 lety

    Better than orange alps?

  • @thumbwarriordx
    @thumbwarriordx Před 5 lety

    @4:46 HEUTE IST MEIN TAG HEUTE IST MEIN TAG HEUTE IST MEIN TAAAAAAAAAAAG

  • @sonicase
    @sonicase Před 5 lety

    what, typing space bar with your thumb this time

  • @FluffyDragonKitten
    @FluffyDragonKitten Před 5 lety +1

    Too bad the videowriter cant be converted, imo sounds better than blue alps :p

  • @h2rv
    @h2rv Před rokem

    I am one jealous man

  • @metallitech
    @metallitech Před 5 lety

    Chyrosran can you do a review of lubed Cherry MC blues? I didn't like mine until I lubed them with Silicone WD-40. I'd like to know if doing this could make you like Cherry blues.

    • @Chyrosran22
      @Chyrosran22  Před 5 lety +1

      Maybe, but I don't have anything like that planned. Also, WD40 is a solvent, not a lubricant.

    • @metallitech
      @metallitech Před 5 lety

      Thanks for the reply. Just to be clear: I used "WD40 Specialist High Performance Silicone Lubricant 400ml" .

  • @grilledcheesefan13
    @grilledcheesefan13 Před 5 lety

    4:47 Nein!

  • @Semeyaza
    @Semeyaza Před 5 lety

    Fuck me blind with nettles!!! I don't believe this!
    I had this!!! I had it almost 30 years ago!! My mother got one from her office to do some side work at home!!! I was just a kid not knowing a thing and when the writer broke down she threw it away!!! ToT
    Fuck my damn bad luck!!!

  • @bashisobsolete.pythonismyn6321

    guys, who makes compact switches today? some people need a keyboard with reduced finger travel. compact switches would be great solution.

    • @Chyrosran22
      @Chyrosran22  Před 5 lety

      Mind you, "compact" and "low-profile" generally refer to different things in mechanical keyboard jargon.

    • @bashisobsolete.pythonismyn6321
      @bashisobsolete.pythonismyn6321 Před 5 lety

      oh, i have been looking for mechanical mini F-keys for years and this is the first i have ever seen.
      thanks to this video i quickly located this page: deskthority.net/wiki/Alps_SKCL_Compact
      i wanted to make keyboards for children/small hands/disabled and could see no good options. at least we know that this has been done (and can be redone).

  • @aluxannar
    @aluxannar Před 5 lety +5

    Its not a keyboard. It's a pack of one of the best keyswitches out there in a case you dont care about. Kappa.

    • @Chyrosran22
      @Chyrosran22  Před 5 lety +5

      Gah, surely this keyboard deserves better than this cruel fate? :p

    • @zrrion6the6insect6
      @zrrion6the6insect6 Před 5 lety

      At least put white or black alps back in the thing when you're done so someone can use the board.

  • @tk-uq3kd
    @tk-uq3kd Před 4 lety

    dude the spacebar is quite horrible

  • @coffeepot3123
    @coffeepot3123 Před 5 lety

    If the world ends i'll track down that one guy who had neon green alps and tell him to figuratively empty those pockets!.

  • @thetman0068
    @thetman0068 Před 5 lety +1

    You want a real God-awful, abhorrent pile of Satan spunk? Get a Smith Corona daisywheel typewriter.

  • @cancerousnut7767
    @cancerousnut7767 Před 3 lety

    4:46 nice swastika bro