Nationwide we’ve got 20% of the people cycling everyday. Only in cities you’d find drivers who’re cyclists as well. Not a lot around here in Gelderland
@@miles5600 Here in Frisia (at least in the small town where I live) there are a lot of people who use their bike for local trips and use the car to go to the city. It's definitely not a city thing
You can't beat a racer or even a mountain bike because they can put way more power on the peddles, city bike is 20-25 km/h top speed while with the same power you put 35-40 km/h on a MTB or racer.
i get cycling in the netherlands is very safe, but considering i had a pedestrian related incident where i was flung off my bike and my helmet saved me from a massive head injury, no matter what country i'm in and how "safe" cycling is, i'm wearing a helmet. it takes one bad fall from some random broken pavement or a big dog lunging at you while you're on your quick 2km errand to leave you permanently disabled, whether or not people like hearing it.✌️
It has a lot more to do with where you cycle. In America there's often no bike infrastructure, so you're riding with cars, and when you crash there is a high likelihood of it being from a car that's running into you. It should be obvious that if you're likely to get hit by a car you should wear a helmet; a fact that has nothing to do with whether you're on a bicycle or not.
No, Dutch people commuting on upright bikes don't hit their head if they fall either. A hit by a car is often outside the window of a bicycle helmet to properly protect. If I went road cycling with a drop bar I would wear a helmet too, but helmets make very little difference for safety. Americans present it like without a helmet you're unsafe and with a helmet you're safe, and both are not true. It's a minor safety contribution in some circumstances.
@@DenUitvreter I've gotta be honest, most of what you said is wrong. You can very much hit your head while falling on an upright bike. How much of a safety impact a helmet makes depends on both the helmet and the situation, not all helmets are built the same. All I can say is that there have been at least 3 circumstances where wearing a helmet has saved me from a serious head injury; one of which would have resulted in my skull being dented by a rock. Helmets are only a minor safety contribution if you buy shit helmets.
@@DenUitvreter In the ideal infrastructure we often see portrayed in the Netherlands and other surrounding countries it is much safer and there's much less chance of having a serious accident. Also with so many more cyclists, drivers who are usually also cyclists take more care of other cyclists sharing the road. In the last six or so years since I started cycling regularly again I have only come off my bike once and put a hole in my jeans and lost some skin and blood from my knee. But I always wear a helmet because 97%+ of the time I'm on roads and streets that don't even have a hard shoulder, never mind a painted bike lane. I'm not an athletic cyclist so 20kmh is a good average for me commuting in normal clothing. I don't take risks and cycle defensively or protectively for the most part with mirrors and lights on my bike. I always wear a helmet because for whatever reason, I might only have to hit my head off concrete or metal just ONCE to irrevocably change my life through a brain injury or even end my life altogether. If I hopefully end up as an old man no longer able to ride a bike and I have never hit my head whilst riding, I will not regret any of the thousands of hours I wore a helmet needlessly because it was always for that unforseen occasion that we all hope will never happen. But when it does happen, it's too late to regret not wearing a helmet when you have to live or die with the consequences.
@@tconnolly9820 No, not in other surrounding countries. It's not there because, and that is the point, interwoven with many,, many other things. I don't use modes of transportation that require protective measures just for the perecentages since it is not proper protection against the worst. Lots of for example Americans drewl over the infrastructure because they would have such great exercise going 30 km/h with their head over their drop bar. The infrastructure is the product of a cycling culture that is the product of a culture rather than the other way around. The best infrastructure doesn't necessarily make the best example. If you want more high speed commuters in lycra with helmets, you will have to make different infrastructure.
@@DenUitvreter I'm not sure what you are trying to say here. I'm not talking about lycra wearing racers trying to beat their Strava average with every ride. I'm talking about being sensible and wearing a helmet as a safety precaution when I get on my bike to ride six or seven kilometres to a local supermarket on roads along with cars and articulated trucks weighing over 40 tonnes with no separate or safe space for a bike. I'm trying to be a part of establishing a "culture" as a utilitarian and commuting cyclist even though I only occasionally meet anyone else on a bike on these roads who isn't wearing lycra and hunched over drop bars for recreation and performance. A helmet for me or anyone else won't stop me getting crushed by a 40 tonnes truck. But what if a 40 tonnes truck hits me and breaks both my legs, crushes my pelvis and break's multiple ribs, collar bone, arms and who knows what else? If I was wearing a helmet and my head sustained a direct hit from that 40 tonnes truck traveling at 80 kmh, I have a better chance of surviving than if I were not wearing a helmet. I may have a severe head injury but without it I would almost certainly be dead. Everything else I could hopefully recover from with rehabilitation over the following months or maybe years. A dramatic example but it happens every day to many people. Helmets are like insurance. They're a waste of money until that moment when you actually need it. I rarely even notice I'm wearing my helmet. There have been a few occasions when I got distracted and only realised I forgot to put it on when I reached my destination and tried to take it off. It's a minor inconvenience but then so is wearing seatbelts in a car. After 35 years of driving I still haven't needed them to protect me. Think of all of the cumulative time and effort I could have saved by not wearing them! Apart from the minor detail that it's an offence not to wear them!
An important thing is that when when one's riding a bicycle for commute, to-from work, store, etc., you're a person on a bicycle. There's that instant human connection. In a car, you're an individual hidden inside a 2-ton container, isolated from the world by your AC and radio. The loss of human connection makes coordinating between cars more difficult.
Wrong. I already fell at 10 km/h, did a flip over the handlebars and hit my head on the rail. A helmet has nothing to do with speed, it's head protection, tree branch deflector and also heat shield.
The truth is even funnier and way more crazy. We got helmets on the bikes only because in amurica they kept hitting cyclists with cars, then they made up a fantasy story about how helmets safe 80% of everyone in a bike crash. (80% of bike crashes don't even involve head injury, it is more like 1%) They never took into account to prevent the crashes all together happening by cars riding into cyclists, no the solution is to put on a helmet... So because cars drive in on cyclists we got helms, why don't we wear helmet when walking the street? you got cars closeby so it would make complete sense, that is if you wear a helmet already. Bike crashes involve at first hands, knees and elbow wounds, after that broken bones again in the hands, arms and/or legs. Slides happen but we are no motors, we don't got 200 km/h So long story short, thanks to amurca fakenews we got helmets, thank uncle sam next time you see him with a spit in the face, thanks.
Just today I was doing some searching for bike data, and found a site with traffic deaths. On roads with a maximum speed of 15km there was a total of 8 traffic deaths in the years 2015 - 2021 in The Netherlands. This include also pedestrians and people in cars. Bikes are always in the 15 km area. So that’s why Dutch people, when asked why they don’t wear a helmet, ask you if you wear a helmet when you’re walking. In a British video I watched this week: Research also found that bikers with a helmet are taking more risks. Cars arounds bikers with a helmet also take more risks, so are more dangerous for the biker.
Unfortunately I don't ride my utilitarian commuting bike in the Netherlands. I ride in Ireland 97% of the time on roads and streets with no bike lanes or paths or hard shoulders. My average speeds are between 15-20km per hour. I wear a helmet because I'm not riding in a statistically safe environment and I only need to hit my head off concrete or metal once to irrevocably change or end my life. It's a minor price to pay for a little extra safety. If I were riding on ideal infrastructure I wouldn't wear a helmet. But I'm not so I will continue to do so.
I ride on the road in England, I don't wear a helmet as noticed car drivers cut you up more with it and I average 19mph (if ignore cars and traffic lights I could be higher as go 24-27mph commuting) so know I don't filter as feel it is rude to do so since drivers and me both get to use same lane, only if a driver overtake another I might Only wear helmet for events
The deaths Are one thing Form a big picture im you cant only die you can also become other head damage and diseases but unfortunately it’s not really good documented they say I have that and that problem but not where it came from or don’t know that it came from the little fall where the bike falls on you and you can’t safe you with your arms or something
Yeah but not protecting your head can make you disabled even when falling over an obstacle in the dark, shadow of a tree when it's very bright sunlight seconds before etc. It's not worth it going without one.
If you've ever happened into a pack of bikes (which I guess you'd call heavy traffic), you don't really feel stressed. Position adjusts at traffic lights and intersections and everything feels smooth, social even. My experience was in MTL, and I didn't even speak the same language as all of the business commuters around me.
Good explanation that I hope no-one makes any wrong conclusions from. Some time ago I was doing calculation on how fast you need to go on a bike if you are an avg adult 60-80kg to sustain a fatal blow when in an accident where you hit a head (there are data points on the area of head most commonly hit). I wish I’d have the data handy when writing this comment but I remember it was below 15km/h. And if that sounds unrealistic just imagine sprinting as fast as you can against a concrete wall with your hands behind your back. Now imagine it’s not a flat object but something like curb, metal rod (sign post) or it’s even moving in opposite direction. Do you still think you could survive that?
if people run or if they walk and get hit by a car, they have the same risk. we gotta consider the full range of variables including peoples behaviour changes based on perceived safety (e.g. taking more risks when wearing safety gear).
So people that go for a run or expect that they will need to catch a bus should wear a helmet? A full sprint is above 25km/h and a jog is around 12, thus possibly in the danger zone already. More importantly, a serious head injury or death can occur even from a "static" fall if the person hits their head on something sharp, like a curb. From this, it can be easily inferred that helmets should be mandatory, unless you are already laying down. By the way, I don't recommend people on bicycles in "unsafe" environments stop using helmets. I do wear one myself. However, in the environment described in the video, it makes sense to not wear a helmet, even though injury can occur at low speeds.
@@elcapitan6126 but pedestrians are not walking at up to 25-50kmh. you lot who say this BS forget this, rate of serious injury and death especially with vehicles goes up with speed.
But I'm sure some of the road bike riders there, like myself, stick to caps instead of helmets. There are a lot of negatives with bike helmets for whatever riding, at whatever speed, in whatever circumstances. "Risk compensation" conceptually, doesn't care whether it's road bike riding or Dutch bike city riding. It always applies. So does car closer passing based on seeing bike helmets. Other negatives are mostly in play as well. As far as I'm concerned much of the reason so many road bike riders wear bike helmets is due to groupthink tyranny, peer pressure, and the indirect effects of race rules. Whenever it began, in the Tour de France for instance, those guys very, very often were not wearing bike helmets before 20 years ago, like that bald tall Dutchman who won it but was on dope, yet that was a quite risky race at times. It was simply forced on them. Probably another factor is cultural contamination from the US and UK, where little kids have them forced on them by overprotective parents, then they feel like they have to wear them all the time as teenagers or adults.
You can still crash or be hit regardless of what speed your going. Always protect your head it's never worth the risk it only takes one time to be your last.
What we did as a kid. If we're going to try dumb shit and speed down a hill, we'll gear up. If we're just meditating during a bit of peddling in the cul-de-sac, we don't
Not convinced, simple falls with the added height of being on a bike can produce the forces for concussion or worse. Add any bike or vehicle speed and that helmet is worth its weight in gold. I’m not considering careless driving, just the fact that a glancing blow to a moving car is a scenario in falling off a bike. There are wonderful “civilian” riding helmets around that are quite subtle looking. I’d encourage rather than impose.
Erm, being required to wear a helmet as a commuting cyclist isn't really a problem for me. I think of it like wearing a seatbelt in a motor vehicle. Precaution and prevention are just smart to me. I've gone over my handle bars a few times at casual speeds during tire blow outs due to debris on my path, and was happy I was wearing a helmet every time. What does bother me is the notion that I would be seen as liable for my own injuries if some 5k pound pick up slams into me at 40 miles an hour on a street with no bike or pedestrian infrastructure just because I wasn't wearing a helmet.
I never understood the lycra for hobby biking, its always looked ridiculous to me and always will. The helmet is ok, because its protective and increases your chances of survival on head impacts.
Loose clothing has more drag then tight fitting clothes, which starts to get noticeable at higher speeds. Plus your gonna sweat and need a change of clothes anyway, why not get specific clothes for your hobby rides?
I was hit by a truck in october. Rolled through a stop as I was passing in front going maybe 5 mph. Hit the ground so hard I needed shoulder surgery. Wear a helmet.
If you're ridings in car traffic because there's no actual bike infrastructure, then yes obviously wear a helmet. But in countries that have bike infrastructure that is separated from cars, then wearing a helmet for slow commuter biking makes as much sense as wearing a helmet for walking.
Lol I biffed it off my bike going maybe 5 mph just tooling around town on a road with no cars on it. Got a black eye and a concussion because I wasn't wearing my helmet. Sorry but you could always pop a tire or pass out or just fall accidentally like I did and a helmet takes all of 2 seconds to put on and is a fixed cost and usually cheap. As an ER doc, please just wear them and protect those brain boxes, you only get one of them 😅
I tripped on a tree root as it started to get dark three months ago, fell into a wall and got a concussion. But you won’t catch me walking with a fucking helmet
Ironicallly I think Netherlands might be the only country where wearing helmets would actually help reducing injuries. Outside of the country people routinely get hit by cars and helmets don't really help that much in the circumastances. Similarly going fast is dangerous af even with it on your head. Brain might end up ok but not your neck. But no matter how slow you go head injuries are dangerous. With lower speeds you're just less likely to damage other body parts. As such wearing helmets would decrease your injury in much more significant manner. After all when you go slow your brain is the only thing you can damage a lot
But i was told by a relative when visiting holland that the ebikes and mopeds are getting more prevalent and have had some hard crashes with bikers. And its not just death that is the problem but one girl she knew got permanent brain damage while biking and getting hit by a moped
you should still wear a helmet, in almost every clip shown in the video there are cards on the same road as bikers. I would never feel safe without weaing a helmet if cars are around
Even speed is too simple of a criteria. Road racers ride in close proximity, small errors create disaster. Going slow down a mountain with boulders is even more dangerous
I crahsed on my bike many time. In doing so, I scratched my wrists, twisted by knee, crushed my scrotum , but not once did I bump my head into anything. yet, you never hear anyone talking about knee guards, wrist protectors or cups when people go cycling. They only talk about helmets, so it's all just a arbitrary to talk about helmets.
If wearing a helmet is the only safe way to ride in an urban, low speed environment because of cars, then why don't people preach mandatory helmet use for pedestrians? Don't they face the same risks around cars?
No. For starters, cyclists occupy roads while pedestrians occupy pavements, so the chance of a car hitting a cyclist is much much higher. Secondly, cyclists move faster than pedestrians so any collision is going to have a higher potential for injury.
@@Joe11924 Sorry, but you've missed the point entirely. First of all, saying that "cyclists occupy roads while pedestrians occupy pavements" is an over-generalization. There are many cases in which cyclists and pedestrians are asked to share a path or lane, and there are many cases in which there is no sidewalk/pavement at all, so everyone shares. I can't think of any urban or suburban environment in which pedestrians never have to cross a motor vehicle lane, and it's at these crossings where most pedestrians get hit by a car. Second, when a car hits a cyclist or a pedestrian, it's primarily the speed and mass of the car that causes the injuries, not the speed of the thing it hits.
@@toobiasj You can't win a debate by stating the negative. Unless you can articulate why you make that claim -- you know, back it up -- then it's just words.
In America there are ONLY the guys who dress up for a Euro marathon race, they're basically posers and really annoying. Why? Because the nice slow casual bicyclists don't exist at all, no one has standing handle bars and mozys and just takes the time to enjoy their lives. Everyone is in a rush and a hurry.
47:14 "non that we know of": I disagree on that one. I think harry did the substance use and partying....n*ked pics in vegas...the costume party....the off colour remarks in the army. He could have done these things to purposefully embarrass his family. To do things not ok-ed by his family knowing his family would be freaking out to clean up his mess. Cause his actions are d*maging their reputation/brand. He could have done them on purpose cause negative attention is also attention and its a way to tr*ll your family. The oprah interview was just that very same behaviour but worsened. There is a reason William started to keep his distance from harry.
the biggest problem we face are kids on the road with their stupid smartphones and otherwise its elderly going 2 fast on e bikes so there will be a law change stating kids and old people have to wear helmets. i will never wear one for commuting
@@Joe11924 in the Netherlands as a motorist you are almost always guilty if you run into someone riding their bike. People are pretty careful when it comes to cyclists.
1:08:06 thats cause the goal of the interview wasn't to showcase and praise those stars. She was dragging them DOWN to raise herself up. She was trying to use these people as stepping stones....like she did to harry. And tried to do to the brf.
@@WHALEx3 If you consider the fact around 40% of people will cycle less if a helmet becomes mandatory, it actually becomes less safe, resulting in way more years of life lost.
@@robin.n The claim that mandating helmets would result in more lives lost is a controversial topic with differing opinions among experts. There are arguments on both sides of the issue. I can provide you with a brief overview of some of the key points that are often raised in this debate. Arguments supporting the claim that helmet mandates could lead to more lives lost: Risk compensation theory: Some argue that when cyclists wear helmets, they may feel a false sense of security and take more risks while riding, leading to an increase in accidents. Decreased ridership: Mandatory helmet laws may discourage some individuals from cycling altogether. As a result, they may resort to other modes of transportation that are potentially riskier, such as driving cars, which could lead to more road accidents. Public health impact: Cycling has numerous health benefits, including increased physical activity and reduced air pollution. If helmet laws deter people from cycling, the overall population health could be negatively impacted, potentially outweighing any benefits gained from reduced head injuries. Arguments against the claim that helmet mandates would result in more lives lost: Head injury prevention: Wearing helmets has been proven to reduce the risk and severity of head injuries in cycling accidents. Proponents of helmet mandates argue that by increasing helmet usage, the overall number of head injuries and fatalities could be reduced. Cultural change: Mandatory helmet laws can contribute to a cultural shift where wearing helmets becomes the norm. Over time, this cultural change may lead to increased acceptance and use of helmets, resulting in improved safety for cyclists. Individual choice: Some believe that individuals should have the freedom to choose whether or not to wear a helmet while cycling. They argue that education and promotion of helmet use, rather than mandates, can be effective in increasing voluntary helmet usage rates. It's important to note that the impact of helmet mandates on cycling safety and public health is a complex and multifaceted issue. Different studies and jurisdictions have reported varying results, making it challenging to draw definitive conclusions. Ultimately, the effectiveness and consequences of helmet mandates depend on multiple factors, including the specific context, enforcement, and public attitudes toward helmet use.
Considering you can become disabled from falling and hitting your head, it's very unwise to not use a helmet. It helps that at least you have good disability pay and free healthcare in Netherlands.
Year, but climbing a ladder is more dangerous than cycling. But who wears helmets at home when they have to change a bulb light?! Cycling is the same as walking or jogging in the end (for at least given NL bike infrastructure and the fact that everyone does it since you are 4 years old). Of course falling on the head while walking or jogging or going up- or downstairs, has significant danger of hurting you. But do you wear helmet when walking? So, why should you when cycling? People not even wear helmets when they do something really dangerous (like driving a car - most traffic deaths are car drivers, it's the most insecure way of getting around including jumping off an airplane with a parachute). But even, it's so dangerous, nobody wears a helmet or fire safe clothing when driving in a car. Isn't it absurd? But then you have cycling, what's extremely safe and healthy in contrast (due to low speed), and there you're supposed to protect you while commuting with great infrastructure. It's just propaganda from car manufacturers!
@@janekschleicher9661 if you spend a long time going up and down ladders changing light bulbs unless you live in a third-world country, you're required to wear a helmet. I ride bicycles on scenic trails and used to commute as well, and I'm glad my wife and I had a helmet every time we fell, as falling from a bike is very different from slipping while walking. Bringing an automotive conspiracy theory doesn't help your argument.
Usually, every car driver in the Netherlands is also a bike rider. So they are very aware of cyclists.
Nationwide we’ve got 20% of the people cycling everyday. Only in cities you’d find drivers who’re cyclists as well. Not a lot around here in Gelderland
@@miles5600 Here in Frisia (at least in the small town where I live) there are a lot of people who use their bike for local trips and use the car to go to the city. It's definitely not a city thing
@@AnimilesYT it depends on the province and the people. Here in gelderland i see the majority of people use their car for pretty much everything.
@@miles5600Would you say it's justified or are the people in Gelderland just lazy?
We just have excellent bycicle lanes. Which is safer then almost every other country.
I wear a helmet commuting because I ride as fast as I can😂
You can't beat a racer or even a mountain bike because they can put way more power on the peddles, city bike is 20-25 km/h top speed while with the same power you put 35-40 km/h on a MTB or racer.
lol same I also got a quick scooter 40 mph
i get cycling in the netherlands is very safe, but considering i had a pedestrian related incident where i was flung off my bike and my helmet saved me from a massive head injury, no matter what country i'm in and how "safe" cycling is, i'm wearing a helmet. it takes one bad fall from some random broken pavement or a big dog lunging at you while you're on your quick 2km errand to leave you permanently disabled, whether or not people like hearing it.✌️
It has a lot more to do with where you cycle. In America there's often no bike infrastructure, so you're riding with cars, and when you crash there is a high likelihood of it being from a car that's running into you. It should be obvious that if you're likely to get hit by a car you should wear a helmet; a fact that has nothing to do with whether you're on a bicycle or not.
No, Dutch people commuting on upright bikes don't hit their head if they fall either. A hit by a car is often outside the window of a bicycle helmet to properly protect. If I went road cycling with a drop bar I would wear a helmet too, but helmets make very little difference for safety. Americans present it like without a helmet you're unsafe and with a helmet you're safe, and both are not true. It's a minor safety contribution in some circumstances.
@@DenUitvreter I've gotta be honest, most of what you said is wrong. You can very much hit your head while falling on an upright bike.
How much of a safety impact a helmet makes depends on both the helmet and the situation, not all helmets are built the same. All I can say is that there have been at least 3 circumstances where wearing a helmet has saved me from a serious head injury; one of which would have resulted in my skull being dented by a rock. Helmets are only a minor safety contribution if you buy shit helmets.
@@DenUitvreter In the ideal infrastructure we often see portrayed in the Netherlands and other surrounding countries it is much safer and there's much less chance of having a serious accident. Also with so many more cyclists, drivers who are usually also cyclists take more care of other cyclists sharing the road.
In the last six or so years since I started cycling regularly again I have only come off my bike once and put a hole in my jeans and lost some skin and blood from my knee.
But I always wear a helmet because 97%+ of the time I'm on roads and streets that don't even have a hard shoulder, never mind a painted bike lane. I'm not an athletic cyclist so 20kmh is a good average for me commuting in normal clothing.
I don't take risks and cycle defensively or protectively for the most part with mirrors and lights on my bike.
I always wear a helmet because for whatever reason, I might only have to hit my head off concrete or metal just ONCE to irrevocably change my life through a brain injury or even end my life altogether.
If I hopefully end up as an old man no longer able to ride a bike and I have never hit my head whilst riding, I will not regret any of the thousands of hours I wore a helmet needlessly because it was always for that unforseen occasion that we all hope will never happen.
But when it does happen, it's too late to regret not wearing a helmet when you have to live or die with the consequences.
@@tconnolly9820 No, not in other surrounding countries. It's not there because, and that is the point, interwoven with many,, many other things. I don't use modes of transportation that require protective measures just for the perecentages since it is not proper protection against the worst. Lots of for example Americans drewl over the infrastructure because they would have such great exercise going 30 km/h with their head over their drop bar. The infrastructure is the product of a cycling culture that is the product of a culture rather than the other way around.
The best infrastructure doesn't necessarily make the best example. If you want more high speed commuters in lycra with helmets, you will have to make different infrastructure.
@@DenUitvreter I'm not sure what you are trying to say here. I'm not talking about lycra wearing racers trying to beat their Strava average with every ride.
I'm talking about being sensible and wearing a helmet as a safety precaution when I get on my bike to ride six or seven kilometres to a local supermarket on roads along with cars and articulated trucks weighing over 40 tonnes with no separate or safe space for a bike.
I'm trying to be a part of establishing a "culture" as a utilitarian and commuting cyclist even though I only occasionally meet anyone else on a bike on these roads who isn't wearing lycra and hunched over drop bars for recreation and performance.
A helmet for me or anyone else won't stop me getting crushed by a 40 tonnes truck.
But what if a 40 tonnes truck hits me and breaks both my legs, crushes my pelvis and break's multiple ribs, collar bone, arms and who knows what else?
If I was wearing a helmet and my head sustained a direct hit from that 40 tonnes truck traveling at 80 kmh, I have a better chance of surviving than if I were not wearing a helmet. I may have a severe head injury but without it I would almost certainly be dead.
Everything else I could hopefully recover from with rehabilitation over the following months or maybe years. A dramatic example but it happens every day to many people.
Helmets are like insurance.
They're a waste of money until that moment when you actually need it.
I rarely even notice I'm wearing my helmet. There have been a few occasions when I got distracted and only realised I forgot to put it on when I reached my destination and tried to take it off.
It's a minor inconvenience but then so is wearing seatbelts in a car. After 35 years of driving I still haven't needed them to protect me.
Think of all of the cumulative time and effort I could have saved by not wearing them!
Apart from the minor detail that it's an offence not to wear them!
An important thing is that when when one's riding a bicycle for commute, to-from work, store, etc., you're a person on a bicycle. There's that instant human connection. In a car, you're an individual hidden inside a 2-ton container, isolated from the world by your AC and radio. The loss of human connection makes coordinating between cars more difficult.
Wrong. I already fell at 10 km/h, did a flip over the handlebars and hit my head on the rail. A helmet has nothing to do with speed, it's head protection, tree branch deflector and also heat shield.
Absolutely right.
If you fell and flip over the handlebar, congratulations! You are, by far, the most experienced bullshit artist in the world.
The truth is even funnier and way more crazy. We got helmets on the bikes only because in amurica they kept hitting cyclists with cars, then they made up a fantasy story about how helmets safe 80% of everyone in a bike crash. (80% of bike crashes don't even involve head injury, it is more like 1%) They never took into account to prevent the crashes all together happening by cars riding into cyclists, no the solution is to put on a helmet... So because cars drive in on cyclists we got helms, why don't we wear helmet when walking the street? you got cars closeby so it would make complete sense, that is if you wear a helmet already.
Bike crashes involve at first hands, knees and elbow wounds, after that broken bones again in the hands, arms and/or legs.
Slides happen but we are no motors, we don't got 200 km/h
So long story short, thanks to amurca fakenews we got helmets, thank uncle sam next time you see him with a spit in the face, thanks.
Just today I was doing some searching for bike data, and found a site with traffic deaths. On roads with a maximum speed of 15km there was a total of 8 traffic deaths in the years 2015 - 2021 in The Netherlands. This include also pedestrians and people in cars. Bikes are always in the 15 km area.
So that’s why Dutch people, when asked why they don’t wear a helmet, ask you if you wear a helmet when you’re walking.
In a British video I watched this week: Research also found that bikers with a helmet are taking more risks. Cars arounds bikers with a helmet also take more risks, so are more dangerous for the biker.
Unfortunately I don't ride my utilitarian commuting bike in the Netherlands. I ride in Ireland 97% of the time on roads and streets with no bike lanes or paths or hard shoulders. My average speeds are between 15-20km per hour.
I wear a helmet because I'm not riding in a statistically safe environment and I only need to hit my head off concrete or metal once to irrevocably change or end my life.
It's a minor price to pay for a little extra safety.
If I were riding on ideal infrastructure I wouldn't wear a helmet.
But I'm not so I will continue to do so.
I ride on the road in England, I don't wear a helmet as noticed car drivers cut you up more with it and I average 19mph (if ignore cars and traffic lights I could be higher as go 24-27mph commuting) so know I don't filter as feel it is rude to do so since drivers and me both get to use same lane, only if a driver overtake another I might
Only wear helmet for events
@@tconnolly9820you exactly right, even a low speed fall onto a curb will get ypu
The deaths Are one thing Form a big picture im you cant only die you can also become other head damage and diseases but unfortunately it’s not really good documented they say I have that and that problem but not where it came from or don’t know that it came from the little fall where the bike falls on you and you can’t safe you with your arms or something
Yes - and there are studies that show drivers not wearing a seatbelt are safer
Yeah but not protecting your head can make you disabled even when falling over an obstacle in the dark, shadow of a tree when it's very bright sunlight seconds before etc.
It's not worth it going without one.
do you wear a helmet when you go for a walk lmao
@@Yahweh42069 are you walking up to 15-20mph?
@@Yahweh42069I fell out of my bike more times than I tripped while walking.
@@pabrodiLearn to ride maybe
@@rupanjolikakoty3103 yeah. Cause human evolution is very connected to bike riding, not walking.
If you've ever happened into a pack of bikes (which I guess you'd call heavy traffic), you don't really feel stressed. Position adjusts at traffic lights and intersections and everything feels smooth, social even. My experience was in MTL, and I didn't even speak the same language as all of the business commuters around me.
Good explanation that I hope no-one makes any wrong conclusions from. Some time ago I was doing calculation on how fast you need to go on a bike if you are an avg adult 60-80kg to sustain a fatal blow when in an accident where you hit a head (there are data points on the area of head most commonly hit). I wish I’d have the data handy when writing this comment but I remember it was below 15km/h. And if that sounds unrealistic just imagine sprinting as fast as you can against a concrete wall with your hands behind your back. Now imagine it’s not a flat object but something like curb, metal rod (sign post) or it’s even moving in opposite direction. Do you still think you could survive that?
if people run or if they walk and get hit by a car, they have the same risk. we gotta consider the full range of variables including peoples behaviour changes based on perceived safety (e.g. taking more risks when wearing safety gear).
So people that go for a run or expect that they will need to catch a bus should wear a helmet?
A full sprint is above 25km/h and a jog is around 12, thus possibly in the danger zone already. More importantly, a serious head injury or death can occur even from a "static" fall if the person hits their head on something sharp, like a curb.
From this, it can be easily inferred that helmets should be mandatory, unless you are already laying down.
By the way, I don't recommend people on bicycles in "unsafe" environments stop using helmets. I do wear one myself. However, in the environment described in the video, it makes sense to not wear a helmet, even though injury can occur at low speeds.
@@elcapitan6126 but pedestrians are not walking at up to 25-50kmh. you lot who say this BS forget this, rate of serious injury and death especially with vehicles goes up with speed.
I'm in the US I always have to ride with cars so I wear a helmet.
Me: flying down a hill with no helmet going 70kph 👀
"If I die, I die"
I’m more worried about the cars driving around me, that’s why I’ll always wear a helmet. It’s not worth the risk, wish it could be safer
I decimated a helmet already this year i wouldnt ride without one
But I'm sure some of the road bike riders there, like myself, stick to caps instead of helmets. There are a lot of negatives with bike helmets for whatever riding, at whatever speed, in whatever circumstances. "Risk compensation" conceptually, doesn't care whether it's road bike riding or Dutch bike city riding. It always applies. So does car closer passing based on seeing bike helmets. Other negatives are mostly in play as well. As far as I'm concerned much of the reason so many road bike riders wear bike helmets is due to groupthink tyranny, peer pressure, and the indirect effects of race rules. Whenever it began, in the Tour de France for instance, those guys very, very often were not wearing bike helmets before 20 years ago, like that bald tall Dutchman who won it but was on dope, yet that was a quite risky race at times. It was simply forced on them. Probably another factor is cultural contamination from the US and UK, where little kids have them forced on them by overprotective parents, then they feel like they have to wear them all the time as teenagers or adults.
You can still crash or be hit regardless of what speed your going. Always protect your head it's never worth the risk it only takes one time to be your last.
I never wear one when I’m riding my Suzuki Marauder 800 down the highway at 75 mph, ayyy, if it’s good enough for the Fonz, it’s good enough for me.
What we did as a kid. If we're going to try dumb shit and speed down a hill, we'll gear up. If we're just meditating during a bit of peddling in the cul-de-sac, we don't
Not convinced, simple falls with the added height of being on a bike can produce the forces for concussion or worse. Add any bike or vehicle speed and that helmet is worth its weight in gold. I’m not considering careless driving, just the fact that a glancing blow to a moving car is a scenario in falling off a bike. There are wonderful “civilian” riding helmets around that are quite subtle looking. I’d encourage rather than impose.
Erm, being required to wear a helmet as a commuting cyclist isn't really a problem for me. I think of it like wearing a seatbelt in a motor vehicle. Precaution and prevention are just smart to me. I've gone over my handle bars a few times at casual speeds during tire blow outs due to debris on my path, and was happy I was wearing a helmet every time. What does bother me is the notion that I would be seen as liable for my own injuries if some 5k pound pick up slams into me at 40 miles an hour on a street with no bike or pedestrian infrastructure just because I wasn't wearing a helmet.
Did you store you helmet on the microphone?
We know who the tourists are by looking at the helmets.
I don't cycle fast,just commute, enjoy the day so no need the helmet at all in UK but UK need to be more cyclists friendly
A simple reason. Neteherlands is safe
I never understood the lycra for hobby biking, its always looked ridiculous to me and always will. The helmet is ok, because its protective and increases your chances of survival on head impacts.
Loose clothing has more drag then tight fitting clothes, which starts to get noticeable at higher speeds.
Plus your gonna sweat and need a change of clothes anyway, why not get specific clothes for your hobby rides?
I was hit by a truck in october. Rolled through a stop as I was passing in front going maybe 5 mph. Hit the ground so hard I needed shoulder surgery. Wear a helmet.
The Dutch have much safer cycling infrastructure. If you are in North America for sure wear a helmet.
@@zabmcauley5647 100%
dutch people don’t get hit by trucks
If you're ridings in car traffic because there's no actual bike infrastructure, then yes obviously wear a helmet. But in countries that have bike infrastructure that is separated from cars, then wearing a helmet for slow commuter biking makes as much sense as wearing a helmet for walking.
A guy got stabbed recently, start wearing medieval armor while walking outside.
I want a Dutch bike so badly! The bikes here in the US are of the sporty type which is not what I do.
Can someone import Dutch bikes to US please!
I think the Netherlands must be heaven
Right, so wear seatbelts when racing Formula 1 but no need when driving home after the race. Got it.
Lol I biffed it off my bike going maybe 5 mph just tooling around town on a road with no cars on it. Got a black eye and a concussion because I wasn't wearing my helmet. Sorry but you could always pop a tire or pass out or just fall accidentally like I did and a helmet takes all of 2 seconds to put on and is a fixed cost and usually cheap. As an ER doc, please just wear them and protect those brain boxes, you only get one of them 😅
do you wear a helmet while operating a motor vehicle as well?
I tripped on a tree root as it started to get dark three months ago, fell into a wall and got a concussion. But you won’t catch me walking with a fucking helmet
Ironicallly I think Netherlands might be the only country where wearing helmets would actually help reducing injuries. Outside of the country people routinely get hit by cars and helmets don't really help that much in the circumastances. Similarly going fast is dangerous af even with it on your head. Brain might end up ok but not your neck. But no matter how slow you go head injuries are dangerous. With lower speeds you're just less likely to damage other body parts. As such wearing helmets would decrease your injury in much more significant manner. After all when you go slow your brain is the only thing you can damage a lot
But i was told by a relative when visiting holland that the ebikes and mopeds are getting more prevalent and have had some hard crashes with bikers. And its not just death that is the problem but one girl she knew got permanent brain damage while biking and getting hit by a moped
Because they don't need them. The Netherlands has one of the lowest rates of head injuries incurred when cycling
Even if im riding a bike in the netherlands i will always wear a helmet what if i skid off a narrow road and fall
I rarely ever bike over 15km/hr even on an ebike, its just not enjoyable wizzing by everything.
As a Dutch, I can say that it's mostly because bike helmet is cringe. It kinda signals that you suck at riding a bicycle.
you should still wear a helmet, in almost every clip shown in the video there are cards on the same road as bikers. I would never feel safe without weaing a helmet if cars are around
can we back this up by static‘s?
A road bike puts your head at the front with your ass lined up behind, lowers your profile and makes it harder to look behind. So wear a helmet.
Even speed is too simple of a criteria. Road racers ride in close proximity, small errors create disaster. Going slow down a mountain with boulders is even more dangerous
I crahsed on my bike many time. In doing so, I scratched my wrists, twisted by knee, crushed my scrotum , but not once did I bump my head into anything. yet, you never hear anyone talking about knee guards, wrist protectors or cups when people go cycling. They only talk about helmets, so it's all just a arbitrary to talk about helmets.
Because a broken wrist will not kill you. A broken head will.
Wish London cyclists know this. They go to and from work in full Lycra on pedestrian streets to get to work 4 mins faster
lol I don’t think this applies to only the Dutch…
Helmets also create crashes.
If wearing a helmet is the only safe way to ride in an urban, low speed environment because of cars, then why don't people preach mandatory helmet use for pedestrians? Don't they face the same risks around cars?
No. For starters, cyclists occupy roads while pedestrians occupy pavements, so the chance of a car hitting a cyclist is much much higher. Secondly, cyclists move faster than pedestrians so any collision is going to have a higher potential for injury.
@@Joe11924 Sorry, but you've missed the point entirely. First of all, saying that "cyclists occupy roads while pedestrians occupy pavements" is an over-generalization. There are many cases in which cyclists and pedestrians are asked to share a path or lane, and there are many cases in which there is no sidewalk/pavement at all, so everyone shares. I can't think of any urban or suburban environment in which pedestrians never have to cross a motor vehicle lane, and it's at these crossings where most pedestrians get hit by a car. Second, when a car hits a cyclist or a pedestrian, it's primarily the speed and mass of the car that causes the injuries, not the speed of the thing it hits.
@@toobiasj You can't win a debate by stating the negative. Unless you can articulate why you make that claim -- you know, back it up -- then it's just words.
Henning! ❤
In America there are ONLY the guys who dress up for a Euro marathon race, they're basically posers and really annoying. Why? Because the nice slow casual bicyclists don't exist at all, no one has standing handle bars and mozys and just takes the time to enjoy their lives. Everyone is in a rush and a hurry.
Bla bla bla... you could be doing a certain pace... but if youre Hit by a BUS...your argument holds -0- Value 😅
47:14 "non that we know of": I disagree on that one. I think harry did the substance use and partying....n*ked pics in vegas...the costume party....the off colour remarks in the army. He could have done these things to purposefully embarrass his family. To do things not ok-ed by his family knowing his family would be freaking out to clean up his mess. Cause his actions are d*maging their reputation/brand. He could have done them on purpose cause negative attention is also attention and its a way to tr*ll your family. The oprah interview was just that very same behaviour but worsened. There is a reason William started to keep his distance from harry.
Whoever Harry is, he sounds alright to me 😅😅😅😅
the biggest problem we face are kids on the road with their stupid smartphones and otherwise its elderly going 2 fast on e bikes so there will be a law change stating kids and old people have to wear helmets. i will never wear one for commuting
The biggest problem is motorists not obeying the law. From personal experience, this is not limited to certain ages.
Meeting friends at a (BAR). Maybe AI can explain the basic laws of Physics😂
Helmet is to protect you against cars.
Not necessary when the infrastructure is as good as it is in the Netherlands.
No need to wear a helmet.
Come and visit us if you can one day.
@@marjorierijnbout7905 Completely necessary for as long as motorists break traffic laws
@@Joe11924 in the Netherlands as a motorist you are almost always guilty if you run into someone riding their bike.
People are pretty careful when it comes to cyclists.
What is the helmet gonna do against a car exactly ?
@@davidegaruti2582 When a car hits you, your head will usually smash into the window.
1:08:06 thats cause the goal of the interview wasn't to showcase and praise those stars. She was dragging them DOWN to raise herself up. She was trying to use these people as stepping stones....like she did to harry. And tried to do to the brf.
I live in N America (Denver) and never wear a helmet. Helmets make me more aggressive and careless.
BS always puts helmet on.
No, not in the Netherlands.
No need to wear a helmet.
Just because it’s cultural doesn’t mean it’s safe.
Cycling without helmet in The Netherlands is safer than cycling with helmet in any other country
No, but the safety is cultural.
@@koen828282 is still less safe than wearing a helmet.
@@WHALEx3 If you consider the fact around 40% of people will cycle less if a helmet becomes mandatory, it actually becomes less safe, resulting in way more years of life lost.
@@robin.n The claim that mandating helmets would result in more lives lost is a controversial topic with differing opinions among experts. There are arguments on both sides of the issue. I can provide you with a brief overview of some of the key points that are often raised in this debate.
Arguments supporting the claim that helmet mandates could lead to more lives lost:
Risk compensation theory: Some argue that when cyclists wear helmets, they may feel a false sense of security and take more risks while riding, leading to an increase in accidents.
Decreased ridership: Mandatory helmet laws may discourage some individuals from cycling altogether. As a result, they may resort to other modes of transportation that are potentially riskier, such as driving cars, which could lead to more road accidents.
Public health impact: Cycling has numerous health benefits, including increased physical activity and reduced air pollution. If helmet laws deter people from cycling, the overall population health could be negatively impacted, potentially outweighing any benefits gained from reduced head injuries.
Arguments against the claim that helmet mandates would result in more lives lost:
Head injury prevention: Wearing helmets has been proven to reduce the risk and severity of head injuries in cycling accidents. Proponents of helmet mandates argue that by increasing helmet usage, the overall number of head injuries and fatalities could be reduced.
Cultural change: Mandatory helmet laws can contribute to a cultural shift where wearing helmets becomes the norm. Over time, this cultural change may lead to increased acceptance and use of helmets, resulting in improved safety for cyclists.
Individual choice: Some believe that individuals should have the freedom to choose whether or not to wear a helmet while cycling. They argue that education and promotion of helmet use, rather than mandates, can be effective in increasing voluntary helmet usage rates.
It's important to note that the impact of helmet mandates on cycling safety and public health is a complex and multifaceted issue. Different studies and jurisdictions have reported varying results, making it challenging to draw definitive conclusions. Ultimately, the effectiveness and consequences of helmet mandates depend on multiple factors, including the specific context, enforcement, and public attitudes toward helmet use.
It has to do with cars, cars make helmets lifesavers.
Considering you can become disabled from falling and hitting your head, it's very unwise to not use a helmet. It helps that at least you have good disability pay and free healthcare in Netherlands.
Year, but climbing a ladder is more dangerous than cycling. But who wears helmets at home when they have to change a bulb light?!
Cycling is the same as walking or jogging in the end (for at least given NL bike infrastructure and the fact that everyone does it since you are 4 years old). Of course falling on the head while walking or jogging or going up- or downstairs, has significant danger of hurting you. But do you wear helmet when walking? So, why should you when cycling?
People not even wear helmets when they do something really dangerous (like driving a car - most traffic deaths are car drivers, it's the most insecure way of getting around including jumping off an airplane with a parachute). But even, it's so dangerous, nobody wears a helmet or fire safe clothing when driving in a car. Isn't it absurd? But then you have cycling, what's extremely safe and healthy in contrast (due to low speed), and there you're supposed to protect you while commuting with great infrastructure.
It's just propaganda from car manufacturers!
@@janekschleicher9661 if you spend a long time going up and down ladders changing light bulbs unless you live in a third-world country, you're required to wear a helmet.
I ride bicycles on scenic trails and used to commute as well, and I'm glad my wife and I had a helmet every time we fell, as falling from a bike is very different from slipping while walking.
Bringing an automotive conspiracy theory doesn't help your argument.
Millions of us cycle every day and don’t wear a helmet. We do fine. If you grew up here you would not wear one either and be fine as well.