The Cold Hard Truth About Running A Sawmill Business
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Nail puller from video amzn.to/3YkloS5
I was just going to ask lol thanks. 👊🏼
what is the name of the music, at the end of the video, please...??
A really good tool. I have used one for more than thirty years.
At first I was thinking “man, I can’t believe he is not going to run a metal detector over that log”, but after you explained it, it makes perfect sense … at least to me.
Thanks
i hate to say it is a crap shoot. a better term is a educated calculated risk. nate has enough experience to guess where metal is or is not. he has his specialty band saw blade. that he has tools to sharpen or regrind a damaged or dull blade. some wood mizer operators chose toss a blade if it hits metal. if it is for a customer project the cost of dealing with metal in the wood is factored in the cost. so it depends on the business model of the business. i suspect the cost of nate's band saw blade sharpener and setter cost many thousand of dollars. nate controls the quality control and he can make changes quickly. wood mizer sells their own band saw blades. they sell band saw blade sharpeners and setters. and they have a resharp business line.
different strokes for different folks and business models. the owner operator choses the best fit for their business.
water is a fairly low cost lubricant that freezes in the winter and that is why he adds windshield washer fluid fluid for water and an anti freeze component. diesel lubricant does not freeze either but diesel vapor is not healthy to breathe and diesel fuel is not that good to be absorbed in the wood. and diesel is flammable in the right conditions.
idk, if it was 2+ ft up the log, totally agree, just send it. But in this case it was 4" in - would've been really nice to just chainsaw off 8-10" not hit metal.
Gorgeous scenery with the drone. Real perty y'all 😁. Thank you for educating us on why you do what you do. I'll probably never do any saw milling, but if I were to, I would be armed with a whole lotta good knowledge. God bless you sir. John here, from the back-roads of Northeastern Tennessee.
Thank you so much. I do not know why this is just so relaxing to watch. God Bless you and yours.
I love watching your metal detecting hunts!---Those drone shots always give me a lump in my throat.
Even with the stain in the wood, those blocks would make some nice carving blocks. Great work Nathan!🤠
Great video Nathan. Enjoyed hearing how you were going to cut the log. Not that I will probably own a saw mill someday, still nice hearing why and how you approach things.
Wow, There is some really nice lumber from that log Nathan. Always interesting hearing you explain your processes for working around problem spots in a log. Cheers, Don from South Australia.
Beautiful wood, along with your ability to create beautiful visuals and show the boring technical goodness.
I enjoyed your explanations and watching you work around the problems. Your scenery shots are so beautiful. Thanks for including them.
Thank you very much!
I had a nail puller just like that about 35 years ago when building my house. it was great and lost it in moving around. Didn't know they still made it so I am ordering one today,
Nathan, I really enjoy your presentations. Very informative. I know that you have explained what you do with the slab wood before, putting it on the burn pile. As a suggestion, could this work to Bruno's advantage? Have him (with your supervision) cut and bundle up the slab wood and then sell the bundles as campfire wood. He could put 80% into an educational fund and have the rest for spending money. There might be many benefits to him earning his own money.
Great job of explaining things to us. It truly is an art and you are doing great things with some great lumber. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks 👍
I just bought my first sawmill. It may be my last but, then again, this may be the start of a great adventure. I'm looking forward to learning from you about developing a business around my mill. 'That Metal Detector tip is one of the most useful and practical I've come across. I just so happen to have one of those nail pullers that I bought for demolition of buildings for salvage lumber, another great tip.
Thanks Nathan for the entertaining videos. Very much enjoy watching you saw that white oak today, beautiful wood. Keep the content coming. :)
Thanks 👍
Thanks again for this and the last video. You choice of music is frankly great
Beautiful scenery!
Being a young lad I watched a rift- or gangsaw hitting a large piece of a grenade (they said from WW I !). The whole saw came apart and two of the heavy blades were destroyed. Thanks god nobody was hurt but it took a day to get the saw together again. These sawmills were common in Germany, Austria and parts of Switzerland and Italy. Today they use large circular saws. Speed is king. Thanks for your videos. By the way as an old carpenter I would recommend - next time - use the middle as a beam or large post for your traktor garage.
I agree with you on the stain in end grain like that being metal. I grew up with a LT 40 hydraulic used as a portable mill, so I know all too well about steel in wood. I don't know if you pull your mill out to clean your building but around 13:20 the frame can be seen moving up and down as the head rig runs. In our experience (fathers and mine 30 years) this is caused by there being too much weight on the tires, give those jacks one more click. Your mill is way newer than ours (1987), so I don't know if they still click or not.
Nathan had the most expensive and most accurate metal detector woodmizer makes. 💪
I know my lt50 works like a charm at finding any metal in a log.
I appreciate you as always buddy.
-Ben
I love my Garrett metal detector for scanning the logs before and during sawing to pinpoint metal! Has saved me many a blade.
Closing shots were outstanding!
Nathan
Just a thought for you of ur Saw Dust !
Build a long trough as long as it needs to be to get a tract bucket or a three side Ben and use forks too lift, make just the width of a Snow Shovel and may have to experiment on the side heights and every so often push out the trough into the Bucket or Ben and may keep the pain of clean up dust everywhere !
Just a thought from the Presto’s in Missouri
Thanks for sharing with us Nathan, good job milling today. Fred.
Thanks 👍
I remember my DAD had one of those nailpullers back in the 60s,he said he got it from his DAD, just some history
Nice machine man. You're right, you know the metal is there somewhere. But you have to keep going. Thanks for sharing.
You bet
I believe you're spot on about traditional metal detectors usefulness in determining metal contamination in logs. Waste of money. But there may be an answer to your problem. I bought one and it's been an amazing home tool for me. It's called a Wallabot Plus. It actually pinpoints metal hidden in between walls and behind wood. It's like an xray of your wood. I found mine on Amazon on sale for less than $120. I love your show. Thank you for sharing your story.
Kind Regards,
Ray
I used to really enjoy sawing white oak.
I wish now I had not gotten old.
Just some fyi, I have a metal detector that didn't cost thousands of dollars, and I can pinpoint within an inch of where the metal is, and how deep it is. That being said, I'm not saying go out and buy one, but I'm sure there is a group near you that would gladly come out and detect your logs, for a fee for gas and maybe a beer. Just a thought. I do an arrangement for a sawyer where I charge a small fee, plus 1 dollar a log. Like I said, the new detectors are so much better now, and generally under 5 bills for one that would work. But your method works, just clearing that up!
No one really realizes just how much it takes to run a sawmill until they have one of their own. I have a couple metal detectors. Like you said they will tell you their is metal in the log but do not pinpoint the location. Even the big mills will discard a full log if they think it has metal in it. Your explanation was spot on.
Good looking boards I love your mill wish I could afford one like it. My son and I recieved one each of the nail pullers for Christmas of 22, you are correct nails not so bad I have a sharpener and blade set also fence staples pretty rough but a lag bolt will break the blade then you turn the air blue and chainsaw around the bolt and have some short boards think the tree held a deer stand platform at one time and someone proabally hacksawed the bolt off right against the bark to get the stand down, just my best guess
Nathan, absolutely beautiful scenery and music in your closer
Nice save Nathan. I saw a clip on Instagram and wondered if we were going to get to see that log on the mill. Very pleasant closing music. I may need a cup of coffee now.
Thanks buddy
Really knows milling and clearly enjoys what he does. Beautiful countryside!
You got some nice wood out of that log. Some of it has some real nice grain patterns in it as well.
From Australia your hard wood drops their leaves in winter. Gum trees are hard, sometimes drops leaves in summer.😊
Briliant. Can hardly wait for the pole barn raising. Oh, and it's hard not to love oak.
Like always, that wood is beautiful! Thanks!!
Thank you
I have a wall tie locator that's inexpensive (£120.00). I don't often discard a log but it may end up shorter ! I pass the detector over the log before each pass. Works well for me.
interesting and very useful commentary on the mill and procedures
Thanks for sharing your video. I enjoyed watching. Take care and God Bless.
Thank you for the video. I am having trouble understanding what a cant is and how to build one. After watching this video I think I got it. It will work better with larger logs. Thanks a gain. Yes I am new at milling.
You can do it!
Nathan , I have managed a band mill for over 30 years now and I have to tell you that I could feel my blood pressure go up when I witnessed your opening cuts on that nice size log. I know you realize how hard a true White Oak is to come by now. Get yourself a way to edge the 4 inch 4/4 boards you left in those slabs. You know , over run !
If you are so skilled, why don't you post a video instead of criticizing a guy willing to share like Nathan.
Having a Timber King sawmill, seeing how you layout your cut strategies is appreciated. Great show
Thanks 👍
Great information in this one. Just catching up to it, grateful for the simple lessons.
Glad it was helpful!
Brilliant video Nathan, I love that you supported another small mill and the lumber you got from the can’t, also the closing drone shots and soundtrack was superb, thank you, happy to support your shorts although I must admit I’m not a fan of them
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Wow! Bruce! Can you explain better. I didn’t pick up on this at all.
Really inspirational setup you’ve made. If there were sawmills like this across the country think of the stability in lumber supply we would have! The economic impact would be amazing.
Eliminating the US's large duties (tariffs) on Canadian lumber would also increase the stability of the US lumber supply by incentivizing the creation of more large Canadian sawmills.
@@do_regan Canada is undergoing regulations that prohibit that. If the forest service still did meaningful landscape management activities we wouldn’t need to import any lumber
Love the channel. Great information. Don’t agree about not using a metal detector. I’d be able to tell you the approximate depth and location with my $150 or $800 metal detector and a $120 pin pointer. I think you should rethink your tools. Time changing a blade and getting a new blade sharpened might be worth $300 to $500 in loss time. Just say’n…look at your per board cost and what tools make you better and faster. You already know the LT70 has made you more productive than your previous saw, as well as the tractors.
Great video and some very nice boards. I was thinking that some rescue companies would be interested in that center 4x4 or 5x5 as cripping materiel for their rescue vehicles.
Nathan, thanks for explaining why you don't go out and buy a big fancy metal detector. Blessings to you.
Another informative and fun video! We loved every minute! We too love the drone footage which takes our breath! Is that your little stone cottage at the end?
My Father had one of those nails pullers in the fifties. I still use it.
loved those parting shots!
So glad!
A Whites coinmaster is about 125 and pretty much any detector tells you the depth except hand held wands...but they can be adjusted to about .5in to as big as 3 in away so they could help but you have to have them to use them I guess
well nice looking wood anyway...thats cheap for blades,,not bad...never new that,,i thought they were costly...guys use to bring there saws in at the tyler county fair grounds in Wv...,,and cut walnut...i seen a lot of blades go down,,,,there...this was years ago..but farmers were happy with the wood....the first thing i think of is bob wire,,,i seen so many wrapped around trees on the farm as a kid...we had beach trees up here,and you see some of the shotgun marks on the trees...they cut them all down,,what a shame...they were all nice den trees...oh well i guess you just have to put your mind in what you got...stay warm Nathan
I love the look of oak- nice boards!
Me too!
Hi Nathan, I have a question, I have noticed many of your logs are "well seasoned" is that a planned move on your part, or just how they come to you? - Tyler
We’ll done Nathan! I get the metal detector question all the time.
That is some gorgeous quarter/rift sawn at the end. Great stuff.
Thanks 👍
I didn't see that part I guess. It looked to me he was flat sawing 90% of the time.
That Crescent nail puller is atomic. I've been using one ( the old US made were a bit better than the newer Taiwan models) for years. Haven't met a nail I couldn't pull with it.
Growing up on a small farm in South Dakota, I'm very familiar with the nail puller you used.
I use my metal detector to save my planer blades .most of the time I use a wood wizard . But i do a lot of reclaimed work .
Man I have one of those mail pullers from the 1890’s can’t remember the manufacturer but I think it was made in NYC. Still works great
The discarded center looks like it would go good in your wood burning oven in your shop, but I think you would need to make them a more manageable size.
That's the plan!
Great video!
Enjoy your show. You have the nicest saw mill I ever saw. Jim80
Could you, have you done a video on the bandsaw sharpening/setting process? I'm lazy and haven't looked it up on my own.
Nathan, could you do a small segment showing you sharpening a blade?
I got some of those wide ends that my sawmill I go to in Ohio throws out and I have made a couple of coffee tables out of them.
Have you ever looked into Carbide blades? I have one on my shop bandsaw and it lasted for 2 years of heavy use, I cut a bunch of nails with it as well.
I will check it out
Cloud drone at the end was spectaclar!
Awesome video, it's funny, I'm a professional tree man and when I hit metal with my chainsaw I get mad but when I hit metal on my sawmill I shrug my shoulder and get another blade. From Fla.
Thanks 👍
Great job
Thanks
Great job thanks
No problem 👍
Nathan, curious if actually finding the nail like you did here will cause you to alter your cutting strategy afterward - in other words, once you pull that nail, does it make you comfortable enough to go ahead and saw through the area? Or does it just make you cautious because nails tend to come in multiples?
I stayed cautious
Nathen nice video, how long does it take you to sharpen and reset your blades, just as a matter of interest.
Real pretty property to work in. Enjoyed your video.
Thanks 👍
I know carbide blades are pricey but I have seen Matt Ceremony saw thru substantial metal, take no damage,and say that metal isn't much of a concern any longer
What is the stone building you flew over with the drone, Nathan?
I thought the blades were more like $130. Thanks Nathan. You are the BEST!
That is about right for carbide tip depending on the length
My blades are double edged blades, cutting going down the track and cutting on the return........ they are $300 bucks a blade.....minimum 5 blade order!! Lol.
I mix pinesol and water for lubricating my blade.
After you find the nail the blade is compromised do you slow the feed rate some. You got some nice cribbing blocks out of the pith cant.
Wouldn't that center piece be useful as a fence post or boards for raised garden beds? White oak is pretty rot resistant isn't it?
You can get a portable veterinary X ray machine for about 800-1000 dollars on line.
The center is still some pretty firewood, LOL
lol
Thanks for explain why you don’t use a metal detector.
I think I ask before, what type of laser guide do you use. And how well will it be outside in the sun light? If it is visible outside I would defiantly buy one for my mill.
Awesome looking wood
Thank you! Cheers!
That is the best tool ever.
Just getting started as a sawyer. Taking notes on your setup- very, very nice my friend. My poor Woodmizer sits outside and gets the weather. My goal is to have it in a building like yours within 5 yrs.
I don’t see any money in it, and your mill will be junk in five years sitting in the weather….anyway why is your mill sitting in the weather….saw some boards up and make a shed for it…I don’t see you making it in the milling business!
@Nj One Bale Easy there, buddy. The mill is 20 years old and it's in great shape. Building a shed is easy enough, but I want a permanent solution and will plan to do so accordingly.
@@gregorycarter3042 wow! 20 years! and your just getting started and still planning accordingly…!
@Nj One Bale God Bless you man wish you all the best with your goals and endeavors in life and I'll pray that you find more productive ways to spend your time other than disparaging strangers on CZcams.
Camera is looking sharp!
Good morning, RB, Nova Scotia.
Morning!
Nathan: none of this metal stuff makes sense to me but I’m absolutely fascinated to learn about it. Is it possible to do a video to teach this better?
I’ll try
Wonderful video as always. As a music lover, I'd like to know the piano artist in the description just like a couple of years ago when you credited The Eastern Plain. Thanks for your videos.
Found the answer to my own question. The wonderful piano piece is "No Good Byes" by Amaranth Cove, a name used by composer Gavin Luke.
I'm new to the channel. I was surprised by the amount of sawdust produced. How do you collect it, and what do you do with it?
That is some beautiful oak Nathan.
Good looking wood!
Thanks 👍
I've seen Matthew Cremona using carbide tipped blades. Have you tried that?
Nice video. I was wondering if you changed your strategy once you got lucky finding that nail ?
I did by one cut,
Will the tractors fit in the saw building if the saw was not there? Build a new bigger building for the saw and park the tractors in the old mill building.