The Uncertain Future of Marie Byrd Land
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- čas přidán 29. 06. 2021
- Wedged within the southern lands of Antarctica there's a huge area of land not claimed by any country. Here geopolitics, geography, environmental sciences, and history are all bound to collide, leaving us only able to guess as to what the future holds for this land.
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www.coolantarctica.com/Antarc...
fas.org/irp/offdocs/pdd26.htm
api.parliament.uk/historic-ha...
www.princeton.edu/~ota/disk1/...
www.universetoday.com/tag/mar...
www.antarcticglaciers.org/glac...
• With Byrd at the South...
Fun fact: All of Antarctica's coasts are Northern, and the central is Southern
The central is neither north or south, it's in the centre. But all the coastlines are Northern.
Unless you take the Earth's tilt into account, then it varies by time of year
@@Stettafire What? The center is always going to be the South of Antarctica, because it's where the South Pole is. It's south of everything! The Earth's tilt has nothing to do with it.
@@Stettafire the cardinal points are 'north', 'south', 'east' and 'west'. 'Central' is not included. And as for that 'tilt of the Earth' notion... bizarre. I think you are taking 'heliocentricity' to a-whole-nother level...
I thought coast lines were East or West.
@@paulholleger8538 Technically as Ice has been melting and substantial continental aquafers have become exhausted the Earth's moment of Inertia has been changing slowly, but measurably, which has resulted in a surprising amount of shifting in the position of Earth's axis of rotation. Moreover as the redistribution of water due to deglaciation from climate change and the accelerated depletion of aquafers the rate of this perturbation of the geographical axis of Earth's rotation has been accelerating over the last few decades.
The South pole is far more stable than the north geographically as Antarctica is massive enough to keep it fairly aligned but the north geographical pole is far less stable.
Point is the Earth's axis of rotation is driven predominately by the planets moment of inertia which changes over geological time thanks to the ongoing movements of plate tectonics.
Note that we aren't talking about the Earth's magnetic field that is a different pole which is also moving over time but varies far more quickly over time in a far less predictable manner. We are talking about the planets physical axis of rotation and the phenomenon known as true polar wander.
The channel is Atlas Pro, but Caelan is the Atlas Bro
Have you seen mapmen
@@heliumnetworking5103 I have now, thank you kind sir! You really are the Atlas Bro ;)
😂
Yo
PewDiePie: Am I a joke to you?
In a move that surprises everyone, Marie Byrd Island ends up claimed by the Principality of Sealand.
Seal-land??😳
Even better, the principality of Sealand builds shades which deep freeze is cost stopping it from j3rking off in the first place.
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@@signmeup1519 what?
@@MinorityRespecter88 I slept on my phone
They need to stop dividing Antarctica like a cake. It has mountains and whatever, make some real borders people come on
I don’t think a person who cannot spell Antarctica should decide what happens there.
Smol brain
its a system that came about from claiming portions of the land with regards to your country's(empire's) longitude.... kinda. With the land being uninhabitable there are no settlements or recognisable geographical features which usually conspire to form modern political maps and with antiartica being at the south pole almost every seafaring country in the world can reach it in a relatively timely manner just by heading directly south.
@@darealpoopster I hope you just meant that as joke, because if not then that was really rude😡
@@darealpoopster D:
That guy naming a frozen desert after his wife though... lol
Edit: yeah lol it's not a "dessert"
The other side of the bed got just as cold after this..
I think it’s sweet.
Even better, that no one can extend an existing claim into or make a new claim for that frozen piece of dessert. I think we have a name for spinster. Way to go husband!
Naming a frozen dessert after someone, is Ben&Jerry's business model.
As frozen desert, on the other hand...
;D
Damn, that's pretty cold.
Johnny Harris reference was so cool.
I can imagine him explaining - How USA stole New Antarctic Land.. 😂
Would be a title for a vid😂
I am kinda disappointed he has not yet commented under the video himself with some fun fact how america indeed laready did something bad in antarctica :D
I like Johnny Harris but this was great.
@@CompanyLaPtop
Johnny Harris video direction -
He'll talk in his signature style
- & USA just... Just claimed it.
Out of nowhere they claimed this barren piece of land for themselves with help of Bunch of soldiers & their Winter tents. (sighs & takes his hair back)
@@TbBucsBetter06 i don't think a chinese shill would make videos about how the belt and road initiative is China's attempt at modern colonialism in Africa
Before: *reveals his face*
Everyone: Yeah, that makes sense
Now: *reveals his name*
Everyone: Yeah, that makes sense
Literally
Yeah, that makes sense
On the subject of mining in Antarctica, it's already happened. Way back in the early 1950s before the treaty was signed, one of the Australian bases had an outstation in the Prince Charles Mountains. They used to have roaring bonfires by chipping away at an exposed coal deposit and then lighting the coal with petrol. Then mining got banned and the Australians in the PCMs had to use more boring heating methods.
"All the land on earth has been taken"
But what if you make more land
**Dutch peoples eyes start glowing red**
Monaco, Singapore and Lebanon too reclaimed land👀
But no one can beat the Dutch
See the video about the mad scheme to reclaim Doggerland, lol!
Chinese people's eyes too look at the south China sea filled with new Islands
*Hawaii starts erupting*
"Let us drain the oceans, like in Randall Munroe's What If blog post."
I think we can all agree that the greatest sin would be dividing this great continent via polar coordinates! I want to see a breakdown where you attempt to use meaningful geographical features to create borders, like you did with the US state borders video.
Just give it back to penguins.
Lmao just make antartica independent okay just let it be on its own just wait for the ice to melt and send in humans bam make them have independence
Geographycal borders although prettier on a map, make the most sense when the natural barriers have created historical divides between cultures, activities according to local ressources from one side or the other and the flow of demographic and strategic movements. None of these exist or are desirable in Antarctica.
The minute you agree geographical features are relevant, someone is going to claim their side of the border should reach over that one hill further over there, actually. As some researcher of theirs once farted over there, making it historically relevant to their nation or something and completely unrelated to the recently discovered mineral deposits in the area.
Just... leave it on a polite abstraction and lets just all not mess up this last continent please. It doesn't need us.
He can fuck right off with claiming any of it for the U.S. though.
@@AholeAtheist username checks out 😂 but seriously my suggestion is only out of geographical curiosity, not any serious division.
Alternative Scenario: America discovers Oil and finds secret WMDs and liberates the Emperor Penguins into Democracy Penguins
People’s “Democratic” Republic of the Penguin Antartica
Oh man, I'm stealing the penguin joke.
Haha
Not turtle approved
The penguins: *I love democracy! The Antarctic Republic is being reformed into the First Antarctic Empire*
minor correction: There is permanent population in antartica. Two civilian towns exist, one argentinean and another chilean. Both have around 100-200 citizens, many are scientists but many others are just normal people. There is even a school
Source?
Yeah, and only Chile, Argentina, New Zealand and Australia should have any claim to any of it.
There's also usually kiwi and Aussie scientists there too.
@@ferragamodurag look up for "Villa las Estrellas", the family of the Chilean Military that lives in the antartic bases lives there. There are a bank, schools, postal service, etc... in that little village. Wich i belive is there to make a precedent that other countries accept banks transfers and post from the Chilean Antarctica (wich in international law sometimes is important).
@@nicolasignaciomerinonunez114 Cool thank you
A popular and eccentric billionaire? Scrooge McDuck is real??
He is called Jeff Bezos.
@@kaizokujimbei143 You are mistaken, Scrooge McDuck is indeed real and better than Jeff Bezos.
@@Former-Channel yes, much better than funi space man
@@Former-Channel Better in what way? Is the irony of Scrooge McDuck being a complete piece of shit by being so obsessed with money lost on you?
I think Jeff Bezos and all the other billionaires of the world fit quite nicely the description of evil, selfish, greedy people.
@@kaizokujimbei143 I didn't actually mean that Scrooge Mcduck is better than Jeff Bezos. If anything If he was real, he'd be just as bad. But then again he is a duck.
Caelan sounds too complicated. I will call you Dave.
Martijn also sound a little complicated. I'll just call u Troels.
Caelen looks exactly like a Jeff.
But he requested to call him Whateveryouwant :(
CORREC
Ok I'll call him Dave as well
Caelan: “Call me whatever you want”
Me: okay *Mr. Whatever You Want*
Speech 100
Always that one kid lol
@@skydreamer4225 no its not that one kid, it's their dad
the dude named it after his wife?
that's so adorable
"Darling you'll be remembered in vast geopolitical conflagrations two centuries hence isn't that sweet"
Saw the cold and barren land and instantly thought of his wife lol, so romantic
Well he also named his wife after himself
One thing I learned from this video: Everything Atlas Pro says is not speculation, it actually happened.
I Learned This One : If Antartica Have Oils And Other, Then The War Begins
88 miles per hour (likes)
true
I read this comment as he was saying it.
Yeah but he left out the fact Germany settled and named it first. Byrd and USA were destroyed. Classic Americans "discovering" and claiming land. He chose to leave it out he shouldn't be educating if he is going to pick N choose what history matters.
Of all the channels I sub to, you’re one of the few that is able to crank out consistently good, unique and interesting videos. I dunno how you’re doing it, but great work & keep at it Atlas Bro
Funny how we figured out that there is a planet after Saturn, being Uranus ofcourse. Well before we figured out and discovered the most southern continent Antarctica.
Ironically, the distant sky is easier to see than the rest of the ground
Looking up into the sky is far more accessible than traveling across open oceans
because just by looking better we could see Uranus, it's nearly visible to the naked eye, so just a half-decent telescope could make it visible.
@@eVill420 and to add more fire to the fuel: half november they finally will launch the James Web Telescope. Showing even more stuff out there then we ever seen before. And still our own oceans stay mostly unexplored. I dont really mind though, i've been following the JWT for a few years now and i really hope there will be no more delays and that the launch and everything afterwords will go according to plan. And what everybody said is very true. Looking outward is easier then looking inward. Just shows you how much we still have to figure out about our own planet.
@@TheTombree wait, did the name of JWT change? Because I thought it was James Webb
' it doesn't matter coz I will be dead'. That is scary logic, do not let this dude rule any land.
Boomer reasoning from a millennial
The guy is trying to make the videos more entertaining and fun, I'm pretty sure he cares more than everyone here watching, that's why he makes these videos to make people aware of so many different topics....Of course my reaction to his comment was - yes, we'll all be dead by then, but what about our descendants?- but hey, I knew he was just kidding.....
Is it me who just finds France's claim being in the middle of Australia's Antarctica claims weird? It reminds me of Lesotho being in the middle of South Africa.
more like Brunei with Malaysia, because it's not landlock, and Australia isn't connected with Australia (outside of a point in the pole)
The French were the first to explore and map that short section of the coast, then the Australians explored the rest. As the French were there first, they got to own that bit of land.
I think they have a claim there due to the french controlling some island chains in the southern Indian ocean like Reunion and Kerguelen. I suppose they figured since they were so close by, they might just as well claim the closest part of Antarctica as their own as well.
@@jaimylijsenaar5116 That's how all the claims on Antarctica were made, go straight north and whichever country's territory it hits first owns that part, that's why chile, argentina, and the uk overlap
@@infinitejinpachi well yeah and then there's Norway just chilling there claiming about a quarter of the whole continent for fun
You’ll always be THE Atlas Pro to me - sincerely a fellow geographer
10:08 minor nitpick here. Volume does not decrease "exponentially" faster than surface area. It just decreases faster.
Exponential growth/decay is a *very* specific kind of growth in which something doubles or halves at fixed intervals, but this is not the case for Volume or Surface area which have cubic and quadradic growth respectively.
is that momiji?
@@alexanderjong2997 In fact it is!
@@haniyasu8236 hi fellow touhou fan
Media talking about rapid linear growth and power function growth: "EXPONENTIAL growth!!!"
Media talking about investment returns, population and COVID cases: "Growth"
Exponential growth means that the rate of changes resembles n^x where x >= 2
the relationship between area and volume is n^(x) and n^(x+1), the difference is in the exponent
This is the first time I've seen Caelan in a video himself. I knew he is eloquent and has a nice voice, but now I also know he has a nice face. That is a very well-groomed beard.
Johnny Harris to release “How the US stole (and then returned) Antarctica” in 3…..2…..
There's another scenario. As the sea level rises people who are dislocated could want to move to Antarctica, and governments could develop certain areas.
no they wouldn't want to move to Antractica. if you've ever been to a cold place you know why people avoid Canada, Northern Scandinavia, Kola and Siberia like the plague, it's really hard for humans to survive in the extreme cold, and the south pole is even colder with less infastructure. Even when it just gets to -40C here going outside stops really being an option, I only go out to go to the car that's been heating up for half an hour so that it can start, it's virtually hell with the night starting at 2:30 PM during the shortest days. Keep in mind this is just northern Karelia, an extremely cold place, but nowhere close to being as bad as Antarctica's coastline, I mean we can grow some crops here.
also the only way to bring food there would be by boat or by plane and the only way to get boats there would be in the summer when the sea isn't frozen. people who live in the tropics, such as maldives would never want to go to a place with such extreme cold as Antarctica, they've never even experienced snow before. they wouldn't have the money to insulate their houses either. to add to that, the only ways of life would be by fishing or mining, I'd be surprised if some1 actually wants to willingly lock themselves into one job like that.
Sus amogus
@@eVill420 Yes but global warming will be melting Anartitica making it significantly warmer than it is today.
@@eVill420 You don't seem to really have much of an understanding of how the planet will change with the ongoing and accelerating loss of sea ice do you? The ice is rapidly melting and the continent is already undergoing substantial isostatic/glacial rebound in part because the crust below is very geologically active as the weight of the ice cover above has been what has been actively suppressing the ongoing rifting of east Antarctica and west Antarctica. This rapid rise in elevation shared with other polar regions will be very significant as the ongoing exponential sea level rise continues beginning to reach the massive episodic flooding stage and as uneven water availability becomes even more precarious across the planet accelerating the already ongoing largely climate driven conflicts and refugee exodus largely thanks to climate change induced droughts.
This is already happening (The mega drought that precipitated the Syrian refugee crisis stands out in particular as do some Latin American refugee situations) and it is only going to accelerate as heads come to blow.
The battle for the arctic has already begun with Russia taking aggressive action to claim as much of the arctic as possible. The arctic "ocean" (really a misnomer as its technically more of a sea that tried to become an ocean before its mid ocean ridge began to die out as the heat source that drove its expansion moved south ultimately driving the major flood basalt volcanism (i.e. the North Atlantic Large Igneous Province)likely responsible for producing the Paleogene Eocene Thermal Maximum(PETM) severing Greenland from Norway and the British isles by forming the north Atlantic and with the hot spot in question resulting in the formation of Iceland.
The point is this results ins a primarily sedimentary basin which has accumulated vast deposits of hydrocarbons from warmer times in the planets distant past which means lots of oil.
@@Dragrath1 first let's get the stuff we agree on out of the way, yes Antarctica is profitable for countries and there will eventually be mines there to excavate all the precious resources Antarctica has. I'm not saying that no one will go there, but that there will never be proper settlements in Antarctica. alright, there's that.
But Antarctica is not inhabitable. I know it's nearly impossible for humans to survive on the South Pole due to the extreme cold. don't pretend I'm wrong because I'm 100% certain on this-
it's not a question of if there's room elsewhere either, obviously there is, why would people go to the south pole when Siberia is easier to go to, more connected and warmer? the warmest period in Marie Byrd Land still has average temperatures of below freezing, you can't grow crops there, there's nearly complete isolation and for a solid part of the winter the sun never comes up. all the gas they would have to use would also be way more costly because it has to tolerate the below -41C temperatures and people living there could never make that much money just by fishing. only way to get anything but fish there would be by shipping them from Africa or America and during winter it's only doable by plane, that costs a ridiculous amount of money you know?
I love his humor while explaining complex subjects.
Also seeing the book "The Swarm" presented on the bookshelf of such an respectable educator filled my heart with joy.
9:27 nope, summer/winter are defined by their respective hemisphere and the average temperature - not so northern-hemisphere centric, mister!
Came here to say this. It was a pretty dumb thing to say. Of course the melting happens in the summer. The proper summer, December to February :-) none of this stupid weirdo Northern hemisphere summer rubbish.
@@priceprice_baby Or...it's a very clever thing to say: you'll get lots of people to complement. This raises interaction and tells the algorithm this video has high engagement (increased if people also like or dislike the video), which enables CZcams to make a case that adds on this video are more valuable than if this interaction wasn't there.
Either way, I do think channels like these deserve more algorithm love than...some others, so I'm happy to take the bait. If it was a sincerely dumb, then I'm sure he's learned, which is *also* a good thing. EIther way, good things happen 🙃
Oh yeah, overall I really liked to video. But some people think the Northern Hemisphere is the only Hemisphere and I'm here to ridicule them when they do :-P
@@priceprice_baby Haha, a noble and valient effort, you're like a true Sisyphus!
This makes it a bit weird for countries on both hemispheres. Though they don't have winters so I guess it doesn't matter
Lmao, all the pokes on Johnny Harris
well, it's true, that's also why i unsuscribe from Johnny.
I love Harris but this was very on point 😂
@@tommarch.4493 good move! That ingrate doesn’t deserve the attention
I often fantasize about ruling my own household but the wife and my two 14 year old daughters are a freaking Triarchy of immense cosmic power
Good luck and God speed brother
@@curiodyssey3867 even better my girls are 7 months apart because your boy apparently has issues with the concept of "pulling out". Thankfully the girls mothers get along so well I often worry about my safety lol
Hahahaha that's funny
@@kesorangutan6170 teenage girls are the scariest beings on this planet!
@@jeffreyhill1011 Well I hope the eldritch horror of triarchy ends when the daughters gets older hahahaha. Then you gotta deal with the matriarch only. God bless you and your family my friend :D
not to contradict THE mighty Atlas Pro, Argentina and Chile have permanent civilian settlements in Antarctica.
I wouldn't call paying a bunch of poor couples to have children in antarctica and being completely sustained by their government to outright each other's claim "permanent settlement(s)"
argentina was administrating antarctica since 1819 selling rights of fishing and hunting in antarctica it also builded the first permanent base in 1904 and has more permanent bases than the other countries it also build the first airport there and has been actively participating in rescue missions in all the sectors of the continent it has also his maritime platform connected with the scotia ridge wich connects with the antarctic continent in 2016 presented 800 kg of documents and photos from 21 years of mapping the seafloor to the UN & the convemar proving that antarctica is an extension of the american continent wich gives more credibility to the argentinian claim and in some years is planning to build a submarine tunnel that connects the country with antartica to make delivering important sources and people much easier.
@@gillettematch3188 I'm surprised by the information regarding "1819" because by that time all the south of what's now Argentina was part of Chile. I'll have to read more about that
@@alejandro_mery the south wasn't part of chile but rather was inhabited by indigenous people chile was about to claim those lands but it had a conflict against peru & bolivia, argentina take that chance to conquer those lands by massacring most of the indigenous people once done this the oriental patagonia was part of argentina, chile was annoyed by this and tried to demand those lands back but noticed that if it did this it would cause a war against argentina and it would be a 3 vs 1 with argentina attacking from the south and peru & bolivia attacking from the north so chile had to give up on those lands.
@@gillettematch3188 it was the Spanish who assigned the Pampa wrongly... not that empires have ever been good at drawing borders
I hope it's already been pointed out, if not this is worthy of mentioning. The Antarctic Treaty System (ATS) DOES NOT HAVE AN END DATE. I learnt this as a first year Marine and Antarctic Science student at the University of Tasmania. Also, to make changes is a really really hard and slow process. The ATS relies on consensus (agreement by all) of consultative countries to enact change.
Love the new format. Have been a subscriber for quite a while and I use your vids to help home school my twin daughters. Using video of yourself narrating your points helps bring your vids to life. Keep up the good work and we'll keep watching. Thanx again!
2:46 what the hell was that behind the curtain? looked like a giant hornet
It's just a regular size bee. He is just a tiny man living in a tiny house.
well, if he doesnt upload again in the next 3 weeks we know what happened
How the hell did you even see that 😭
@@bababababababa6124 I am a gamer, I see something I flick
Ironically there’s a Johnny Harris video suggested next😂
Block that shit!
In the game "Detroit: become human" the background politics is debating the ongoing war for Antarctica that is fought with Robots and machines.
@Westpoint It's been a while since I played so I might be mistaken but I think it was not a cold war since there countries' soldiers fighting. Although any war fought on the poles is definitely gonna be a cold one 😅
16:37 Johnny Harris wants to know your location (but seriously is there any beef.)
I think hes just a fan
@@malbanakwaly2765 Atlas Pro is too smart to be a fan of that pos and her propaganda
21:31 I would disagree with the statement "Russia didn't exist yet when there was USSR". By the same logic Germany did not exist until 1990 when it was reunited, because before that there were technically different states. This statement is misleading.
Even being a very knowledgeable geography nerd, Atlas Pro, unfortunately, remains an ignorant American when it comes to anything about other countries.
I mean they were treated like different states there were literally two Germany’s 😂
i mean arguably it was a union of republics ran by Soviets. Russia was within it. so yes it did exist but the USSR wasn’t just Russia with a funky name.
Let's call it the Soviet union it sound more epic
@@luxource your very mean
Atlas Caelen: "Russia didnt exist when this treaty was signed"
Also Caelen Pro 3 minutes before that: "Russia was the the first to discover Antartica over 200 years ago"
Bro, Russia might go by different names, but it has existed for well over a thousand years
Russian people have existed for a long time, but not Russia. Today's Russia is so different from it's predecessor systems, that this is a gross oversimplification. Imagine for example any of the Baltic states saying they have existed for 1000 years. Yes baltic people have existed for a long time too, but for many russians this kind of thing would sound stupid. I see no point in arguing over how this man decided to speak. Maybe it was worded a bit poorly, but it's not that important. Most people understood what he ment.
@@ElenaBailar your English is excellent. Well said.
Russia would be too busy on their newly warmer Siberia to exploit antartica anyways
@@ElenaBailar смотря что вы понимаете под словом многие. По-моему назвать ВКЛ Литвой - совершенно нормально и во многих исторических роликах так и делают и население называют литовцы. Точно так же нормально называть Молдовой Молдавское княжество, а Болгарские царства - Болгарией. Меня тоже этот момент в видео цепанул. Не видите смысла спорить о семантике? Так и не спорьте тогда, лол. Россия является правопреемницей СССР по всем современным юридическим нормам. Этот аргумент явно инвалид. Если б он сказал, что у РФ нет на это денег, или как вот ниже написали, что мы слишком заняты будем своими болотами на месте вечной мерзлоты, то как бы ну да, так и есть, ноль вопросов. Но оспаривать правопреемственность России по отношению к СССР это бред.
really like your vids, would be cool to have a series of videos focusing on the geological history of individual regions, tracing each back through the supercontinents to explain various features they have now. like when each set of mountains was formed and what smashed into it to cause that. and maybe a short speculative section at the end about what might happen next based on current plate movements. i think maps of previous land positions as well as maps with altered sea level or other changes are really cool, and i’d love to see more details of them and how that affected current landmasses.
Is there a West and East side of Antarctica? Isn't every direction basically North, unless you go in an east-/ or westward circle around the center?
That's my problem too when I try to talk about place in Antarctica I don't know where West and East I can't tell
@@awmsquare-a4621
Isn't the most difficult rather finding where are the northern and southern parts, given that the South Pole is over there too ?
Well there is two imaginery sides of the Earth, sides closer to east side of London and side closer to west side of London. So just go strait South from London and look which side of Antartica is at one side, this is how we figure out which side of Antartica is West or East compared to the city of London but not Antartica itself
@@fallendown8828
wouldn't the Transantarctic mountains do ?
@@fallendown8828 but at which point does west turn back into east on the other side? Is it exactly opposite of the London-line?
I'm just curious, because "south" in Antarctica is always towards the center, so eastward and westward must be circles and the continent can't really be divided into halves
I love that you are starting to add more content/humor to your videos makes them alot more enjoyable!
I love how summer / winter got you confused for the south pole, but using east and west didnt
Strip-mining Antarctic ice for Coca-Cola is the most dystopian thing that I have heard in ages, perhaps my entire life.
Did you check other countries Wikipedia for how much they mention their own countries (i.e. wikipedia.ru, wikipedia.ca, wikipedia.cn)? Just wondering because our US wikipedia can be pretty biased towards US-centric ideas without meaning to be.
Yeah, I didn't buy it either. It was obvious he was inserting US propaganda at that last bit.
Somehow, I feel Russian and Chinese wikipedia is way more biased than the US one. But yeah, that "Mary Byrd Land should go to the US" bit at the end, sounded like US propaganda
I know Polish, and I sometimes do notice that Polish Wikipedia tends to be more biased / country-centric, and I assume it is similar for other less popular languages. I guess this is because there are less readers, and the vast majority are from Poland so don't really mind, whereas English Wikipedia is held up to international standards.
I mean say what you will but, the US presence in Marie Byrd Land has been undeniably larger than any other possible claimant. Also, it's not "US wikipedia" it's en.wikipedia.org, and yeah English Wikipedia will have some US bias b/c the US is so populous, but if you look at ru.wikipedia.org, America, Americans, and American bases are still mentioned more often, and Russia is the only other country that had any actual activity there. Japan meanwhile had a claim from 1939 to 1951, but as part of the Treaty of San Francisco, they renounced all Antarctic claims.
He didn't mention that it should be for US. He mentioned that US has planted a lot of factors that could be used as a base for claim and possibly has been gunning for a claim since the beginning.
Hi Caelan,
You forgot to mention one of the latest leading theories on early antarctic history: Pacific Islanders. "New Zealand researchers scoured so-called "grey literature"-including oral records, historic indigenous artworks and non-academic sources-looking for links between Maori people and Antarctica."
Worth reading into.
Source: Journal of the Royal Society of New Zealand (2021).
"Im Atlas Pro, no, Caelan.. call me whatever you want"
Husband?
Been calling him Daddy Pro since he did the face reveal 🤷🏻 And he's got a Cat-las Pro
I would say the first part of Antartica that becomes ice-free is the one claimed by UK, Argentinia and Chile. It's the most Northern part and if you look at Google Maps you can see that some mountain peaks are already ice-free.
Another great video. Keep 'em coming.
Your missing scenario: what if we enter a new ice age?
Because we are...
Grand Solar Minimum. (Cough) (cough)
Puts new perspective on "South China Sea".
Barely any similiarities at all, jesus christ.
Just as The Gulf of Mexico belongs to Mexico?Or the Bismarck Sea?
@@UmbraHand hint on what China has been doing the past decade.
@@UmbraHand yes, actually exactly like that. since china doesn't actually claim the waters of the SCS as territorial waters, but they claim the islands and by extension the EEZ around the islands just like how mexico actually has most of the gulf of mexico as its EEZ(except the parts by the US, which is US EEZ)
and before you note how china is building on the islands/reef. this is also not unheard of. japan has been piling concrete on essentially rocks in the pacific, rocks what would be washed away in a matter of a decade or so, to keep them above water then claim the EEZ around the rocks. there hasn't been any complaint or even media attention from the west for this. Vietnam actually controls the most islands in the SCS and actually started building on the islands first, yet again, no attention is paid to these activities by the west. it is literally only when china does something, that everyone else has already done, that the west complains.
@@mxn1948 😴
Loved the new changes you've made to the videos
I just love to watch detailed interesting videos about stuff such as this as it helps me to boost my vocabulary and also satiate my curiosity about our world's geography
Is it just me, or is Caelan a bit of a babe?!
Just a bit?🥴
More like a total babe
@@jerryberry5480 does he not have a personal insta account? Yk, for research purposes👀
Those references to Johnny Harris made so much more sense in the past few minutes :D
With the water shortages gaining momentum I can see Antarctica becoming world's water reserve to postpone the issue. We are very good at postponing issues after all.
So I guess Kazakhstan, Ukraine or Belarus can also claim Antarctica since they all equally were once the USSR
The Uzbek section of Antarctica.
No, they can't. When we talk international treaties, Russia is the sole successor to the USSR. Independent governments of other former USSR repubics signed their own treaties in support of that. So they became thier own entities in the international politics, while Russia "changed the nameplate" as our represetative to the UN said.
I actually had the pleasure of meeting and befriending an amazing man who was involved with the first 3 Antarctic operations including High Jump. He was also the youngest member aboard at just 17 years old during the first mission. He is currently 101 years old, and he also provided me with amazing photographs of Antarctica from the 1946 and 1947 operations. He still remembers how cold it was and said he'd never go back!
U.S.N. Robert R. Johnson
I'll call you Hot-Stuff-Caelan, the Pro on how to make an Atlas of my Heart.
Wtf, what are you gay? What are you some hot gay guy? With soft olive skin?
This isn't Grindr, you're on CZcams right now.
@@Anthonybrother not even gay. Just making a joke.
Thank you, darling
@@cariri12 anytime.
I have to say Caelen, I really like the change in your content as of late. I only discovered your channel recently, but watching older videos I feel I really like the more personal, showing face style of video as it feels much more, well, personal. I really look forward to more!
I like it if it means he'll be able to release videos more often.
See, I am out here feeling the opposite. I liked the videos because they were more about fact than any kind of perceived personal appeal, and now that someone is sitting there talking to me I am less inclined to watch these videos. I liked them because they were infographic and now they're not.
Here are 2 video ideas that I'd like to see -
1. How tides work
2. Mangrove forests - eg - Sundarbans
9:42 - 132 years from now, someone is going to be watching this video with a very shocked and terrified expression on their face.
"I'll be dead next year? What?!" XD
Name reveal AND a Johnny Harris shade?
Get this guy to 1M subscribers please
It's not winter on the south when it's winter on the north hemisphere, you know...
Worst part is, he absolutely knows but still phrased it like that.
Yeah, made me cringe so hard when he said that.
This is channel is becoming my favorite youtube channel. Interesting, informativ and high quality geography content. I love it. Keep up the good work
You're genuinely funny, keep it at that level!
And I can't spot any inaccuracies anymore... Nice job!
"Mary", instead of "Marie", Summer in the Southern Hemisphere is when the Northen Hemisphere has its Summer.
Me thinking this guy looks like me but older and taller: 👁👄👁
Me finding out we have very similar names:👁🗨👄👁🗨
Love your videos! One critique: "Marie" is pronounced not with a short E like Mary or marry, but with a long E like "ma - ree."
All of your work on this channel is absolutely fascinating! Please, keep up the spectacular work.
Really enjoy your channel and love the recent changes and the front of camera presenting. Keep up the excellent work.
Great video Caelan Pro, can’t wait to see more!
The US is not the only country that has a bad history of claiming lands that don't belong to them. They learned it from their mother nation (Great Britain). The British owned entire countries like India, Ireland, Kenya, South Africa, Hong Kong, Sudan, Egypt and Nigeria just to name a few. Unless you count short lived nations like The Republic of Texas and Republic of California, the only country the United States overthrew is The Kingdom of Hawaii. And that would not have happened if Grover Cleveland had not lost to William McKinley in 1896. Speaking of Hawaii, did you know Russia once laid claim to the Hawaiian island of Kauai? Elsewhere in the world China took over Tibet in 1951 and Russia took Crimea away from the Ukraine as recently as 2014. And when the original nation of Israel existed (not the current nation of Israel established in 1945), control over Jerusalem was constantly bouncing back and forth between Israelis and Palestinians.
By far the worst and most infamous atrocities of land acquisition by the United States were the repeated theft of Native American land correlating to westward expansion. Most of the land in the United States itself was acquired through large land purchases such as the Louisiana Purchase. There were only three distinct times where Americans took land via war. These were The French and Indian War (Which gave The US land between the Appalachian Mountains, Mississippi River, Ohio River and Great Lakes), The Texan War for Independence (Which gave The US Texas), and finally the Spanish American War (Which gave The US Cuba, The Philippines, Guam, and Puerto Rico.) The first of these wars (The French and Indian War) happened when the U.S. was still part of Great Britain and George Washington was a British general. The U. S’s most recent attempt to acquire land that didn’t belong to the U.S. was when President Trump attempted to buy Greenland from Denmark. However, this didn't go far and ended with the President of Denmark giving President Trump a firm "No!"
Seeing how the United States got pushback on trying to buy Greenland, and the general negative attitude towards the countries acquiring land in a post-colonial era (I'm looking at you Russia), I have no doubt that the United States would get pushback from the international community if they tried to lay claim to Marie Byrd Land. However since nobody owns Marie Byrd Land, there really wouldn't be anything but foreign political pressure to stop The United States from laying claim to Marie Byrd Land.
amazing coment
yea, but tibet was and is a part of china, for longer than the US is even a nation, this is a fact not speculation, the qing dynasty had ruled it and the commie advance into tibet was not opposed. there was no declaration of independence, and the dalai lama even served in the chinese congress and to this day claims he wants more autonomy not independence. for all the whiny cries about china being expansionist, the modern chinese state has never expanded its claims, they've only gotten smaller as borders are negotiated and all its claims were historically controlled by china. meanwhile the kingdom of hawaii was never american in any way .
Atlas Pro: "Ultimately we can't know the answer to all these questions."
Me: Yes we can and the answer is "China"
Sounds like another *cold war* scenario happening between China and America. :P
@Tianrang Bu i feel sad nobody is appreciating my pun. 😢
@@Zivilin I missed it too. Chef's kiss!
I gotta say I wasn't too sure about seeing your face in the videos at first, but now after seeing several more videos like this one I'm so on board with it. Fantastic work as always Caelan!
Subbed.
Keep the quality content coming good sir!
16:45 response: I’ll call you… Johnny Harris then…
23:25 I heard “be free for mice” lmao
Same
The effort and quality is crazy good
Wonderful Video Atlas Pro :)
"call me whatever you want" Okay Daddy
3:42 Please provide a reference as to where the Treaty Prepratory Meetings were described as 3 years. From what I can see they were 16-17 months.
You make Geography so fun to learn.
Wow! I havent checked in on this channel in a while. Gratz on 879k subs.
That was an awesome video. But why did you keep calling her Mary when the name is written Marie? Perhaps we should reference George M Cohan.
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Just a minor point, the Antarctic Treaty does not expire in 2048, but only becomes open to review via unanimous agreement of the parties. I agree that its modification is certainly possible as you say, but think that the widespread notion that the Treaty has a flat expiration date can be dangerous. Regardless, love your videos!
Loving the videos recently
Great video, thanks Kaitlyn!
First name: Calean
Middle name: Atlas
Surname: Pro
I'll call him Jonny Harris from now on
That’s a huge insult. Atlas Pro is brilliant, and John Harris is a fucking waste of oxygen
Great video! One thing, there is continuous habitation in the continent. Argentina has has continuous presence since 1904.
Great video Caelan!
If Antarctica has oil
America: looks like they need some freedom
Oh, there will be millions of dead penguins
@@arkcliref But they needed freedom!😄
Caelan: “in a 130 years I’ll be dead”
Me: 😂😂😂
Caelan: “and so will you”
Me: 👁👄👁
Great video Atlas Pro
At the end, when you were asking all the questions I was ½expecting you to say, "for the answer to these questions, tune in next week to. . . . SOAP!" I'm so freaking old.
I have never been this early!!
what to do with this power
It's funny I was just watching Johnny Harris.
Excellent video, entertaining & informative. 👍
I've been loving seeing you in videos. You're funny and charismatic. Getting videos far more often is a HUGE PLUS. Can we hope to see you weekly? 👀
There could be a netflix series about these scenarios. I'd watch it!
But then the Antarctic snow will be black, because you know, Netflix
@@raptecclawtooth9046 Exactly, even Penguins gonna get race-swap to be Indian and Asian.
Your Coca Cola scenario would only become viable if nuclear cargo ships finally become a thing (as they should have 40 years ago), and then only for coastal markets, because water is about the heaviest good you can transport. That's why it's bottled locally.
Water is the heaviest good you can transport? May I introduce you to every metal and mineral in existence aswell as most foods and every type of machine ever?
The reason water is often used from local sources, is because there are water sources almost everywhere and there is mostly no need to transport it a long way.
Creative Designation and yet Fiji Water are sold in the US
@@creativedesignation7880 it is extremely heavy for its selling value, that's what matters. Good fresh water sources are not everywhere and they are declining. However, the people who lose out on water first are usually the poorest meaning there is not much incentive to transport water any distance anyway as people wouldn't afford it. I don't believe a Coca cola plant would be viable scenario either for that reason. It would also be extremely expensive to run in such a remote location. All food has to be transported and finding workers willing to live for several months at a time in a remote frozen wasteland would mean high wages.
Thank God for that. Finally don't have a reason to kill myself so soon. China on the other hand...
Mild Johnny Harris shade was perfect 😂
Nice to see a new video