Honestly, I've gotten to the point where if the wave rake or bypass tool don't come out, I'm thinking, "Well, at least it is a lock, and not just a lock-shaped object."
Whilst I agree, thieves don't even try shims, wave rakes or bypass tools around here. It's a gang with a battery powered angle grinder every time. Ten seconds later they're off on someone's bike, with the bystanders slowly realising what they just saw on a busy shopping street in broad daylight.
Walmart is notorious for pushing companies that make high quality products to make a cheaper, poorer quality version for them to sell. At least Kryptonite gave it a different model number.
One important thing is tge lock has a rating of 5. The scale looks like it's 5 out of 5, i.e. the best. Just that Kryptonite actually has a 10-step scale.
@@professorpwerrel If they're going to profit from using their own branding in that way, obviously it SHOULD affect their reputation. They're prioritising sales through their brand recognition over quality. If they wanted to offer a cheaper product and not be associated with it, they'd just spin up another brand
I was an IT analyst for a tool manufacturer whose biggest customer was Walmart. The Big W was ruthless in demanding lower costs and “efficiencies” from its vendors. They ALSO took 90 days to pay us, so they could put the burden of financing all their purchased inventory on us.
@@tailpig6417 Thanks for the update. I somehow missed that BosnianBill has retired and have been wondering for a while. To be honest I drop in and out of watching lock picking videos so I can see how I could have miss it.
@Tailpig Making an appearance on a LPL video would be a lot easier for him than making and editing his own video. Being retired doesn't mean he can never be in another video ever again. Of course the OP knew he's retired. Get your reading comprehension up.
I think this is a valid point. If this lock requires a bike thief to be in possession of "the tool that Bosnian Bill and I made" in order to pick it I would consider it I would consider it pretty safe. Maybe that is not the case?
@@johanegneblad in video 640 he shows how to get a lot out of a 5$ pick and a file. The pick he has now been using for ages is just one he made for the higher quality, for example the markings are very helpful and make picking faster/easier, but are not required
The pick that is being used here is available commercially from Sparrows. And it is just a refined version of other similar tools that had been available for ages. LPL used to use them.
I still have a kryptonite U lock from the 90's that saved my bike from theft at my high school. They tried to cut the shackle, and though it left a mark, I see it as a trophy of success.
@@goku445 no, just valuable to me as transportation to school. I was in marching band, and we had a parade field trip that day. I was grateful to have my bike to get me home that night.
I used one to lock a crackheads bike to the backstay on a power pole. The utility came out and after mangling the lock, cut the bike apart to remove it. It is there to this day.
I don't know too much about BosnianBill's channel outside of what I've learned from LPL, it I definitely appreciate the respectful nod to Bill every time the special pick is used. Classy move, sir
That reminds me. Many years ago, Walter Knott (Knotts Berry Farm) heard rumors of a new hybrid berry with a great taste. After some searching he found an abandoned field and rescued a few plants that were still hanging on. He named the Boysenberry after its creator, Rudolph Boysen. He could easily have taken credit, but chose class. And the Boysenberry was still the springboard to success for the Knott family.
@@briant7265 I do like Boysenberry jam. Most Christmases I'll get a jar as a gift. Harry (LPL) originally conceptualized the pick, Bill was the machinist. They collabed on the actual design and came up with a world-class tool which still sells out quickly.
I wondered what that immense cheering was that I heard about 8 hours ago, then I see that you dropped a new vid with the immortal words "... the pick that Bosnian Bill and I made ..." and it all becomes clear - 100k voices screaming with delight. Awesome.
I recently went to get a spare key made for a disc detainer padlock and I tried nearly dozen locksmiths many of who didn't have tools or blanks to make a key and a few had never even seen a lock like what I had. If a locksmith in a major city doesn't have the tools to work with a disc detainer lock then maybe it's fairly safe to bet that the guy trying to steal your bike isn't going to know or care about the lock at all and jump straight to physical attacks.
Yeah, nobody is going to be picking that kind of lock in the field. As you said those locks are insanely uncommon so hardly anyone knows how to work them. The thing with bike locks is you only have to good enough that it isn't worth it. Most of the time you are worried about raking, shims, and bolt cutters which this should be good against. The fact is that nobody is going to be using that kind of pick to steal bikes. They are going to be using a power tool before that point. I mean yeah for a high dollar bike I would probably go with other options but this works great for most bikes.
I was talking to a locksmith recently and it seems that lock sport enthusiasts own more locksmith tools. I've only been picking for a year now and my collection of tools was way more extensive than his.🤣
My only encounters with a disc detainer lock were the one on the gate padlock at our gun club outdoor range. At the time it was the strangest lock I ever saw because the key was unlike any I ever saw before. Thanks to LPL I have a better understanding.
@@R33f4_61 locksmith operate on the same basis as thieves. Easiest to learn, biggest impact on opening. Single pin picking is just too nuanced. Bypassing or brute forcing is the way.
@@paulelderson934 Spot on mate. He did give me some good tips on where and how to drill out a lock. Lol He also did say that SPP is something they generally don't bother with. Time is money as they say...
Biggest thing with these locks is that they are meant to be cut resistant and not pick resistant, especially since disc detainer picks aren't all that commonly made outside of Sparrows.
I haven't had much practice (only like an hour, vs days and days with traditional pin tumblers), but I haven't really figured out picking them. I can do any pin tumblers without security pins (and many with), but haven't successfully picked a disc yet.
Um, no...I'm sure Kryptonite's legal department put in more than enough caveats and conditions so that only an attorney (who was specifically not designated as a lock-picking expert in codicil 3.a.iv.c2) could have a chance to get the $1,000... ...and that presumes Wal-Mart actually sold a bike for $1,000 (I'm sure the guarantee limits the amount to the purchase price of the bike, with likely deductions for depreciation on the most aggressive accelerated depreciation schedule that the lawyers could come up with).
I have this exact lock. It was less than $30. Picking attacks aren't exactly the preferred method around where i live. Hacksaws , or the dreaded cordless reciprocating saw or cordless angle grinder are the preferred tools to attack a u-lock. This ones going to take some time with either, since it does lock at both ends, requiring two cuts. But i consider it a one hour lock at best. One hour being the amount of time you can leave a bike locked up outside on the street.
My shed was broken into a few years ago (ripped the lock clasp out of the wall with a crowbar) and the only tool they took was my DeWalt angle grinder. They left all the other tools in the set.
Welp, I guess I'm just gonna take my bike into the restaurant, and when they ask me to please leave it outside and I'll flip out and say “YOU HAVEN’T SEEN THE LOCKPICKING LAWYER HAVE YOU LADY?!” while shaking this lock in the air and rolling my bike calmly thru the dining room.
@@femsplainerYUP...THAT WILL DO IT...JUST ABOUT 3000°F AND ONE RED HOT MOLTEN TIRE LATER....SOMEONE LOOKS AND SAYS....DAMN!!! DID YOU JUST RIDE THROUGH MOLTEN LAVA????.LOL..LOL
When I saw the lock I got a little nervous. I use that brand to keep my bike safe. Nice to see you need a special tool to pick it quickly. Great content as always LPL.
You need a special tool to pick it *at all*, plus the knowledge to use that tool correctly. Unless you've got a truly dedicated cat burglar bike thief going through your neighborhood this lock would probably do you fine.
I've enjoyed your videos for years and finally ordered your beginner set. I'm looking forward to giggling madly to myself, quoting you while picking basic pins
It seems to me that any of these disk detainer locks are the way to go. I feel like LPL is the only one who can open these because he has the only tool in existence that can pick them. So if LPL wants to steal my bike, I'd be honored.
It is still worth remembering most thieves aren't LPL. They don't have RPG Rogue level lockpicking skills. They're looking for locks that are easy to cut quickly, or for totally unsecured things. I think this would definitely deter a lot of thieves looking to get in and out fast, but always spend the money for a truly high quality lock if you can.
i miss bosnian bill, thank you for continuing to use the prototype version of that tool you made together with him, i know the finished mass manufatured version of it looks nicer but that one has cetimental value, to you as much to us i imagine, hes your friend too after all
Thank you LPL. It seems to me that the vast majority of disk detainer locks can't be picked with traditional tools - like a normal pick, but require your bespoken tool to tension and rotate each disk in the sandwich inside the lock mechanism. To me, it seems an adequate protection from the casual lock picker, who came to pilfer the bike. He does try to pick the lock for one minute with whatever tools he brought with him (certainly not the BB/LPL disk-detainer pick tool), and then he switches to the bolt-cutter or angle-grinder for the definitively wicked outcome. Such kinds of marauders and brigands aren't special-ops agents who can concentrate fully on one task at the time, or even distinguish the details of locks and picking tools; so the effective barrier to the theft is psychological, in this case the hefty and robust look of the lock device; so the manufacturer skimped on the truly expensive component, i.e. the lock core. Thank you once more, all the best, Anthony
I like how he says that he doesn't really like this lock even though he has to pull out the tool that he made with Bosnian Bill. Just pulling out a custom-made tool is enough for me to be like hey, this is probably a decent lock to buy.
He's a lawyer, a professional locksmith/picker and a very successful CZcamsr. He's rolling in cash so I don't think he needs to do hard physical work kek.
Well LPL, you’ve done it. Apart from the numerous (~16?) small pad locks from ABUS, I now own about 5 high security locks from ABUS and a few loose security bits (Wall anchors, box flip over locks, chains). Must say money very well spend. Every lock functions excellent, some for multiple years on an open boat.
Love what you do, you and bill inspired me to learn basic picking and locksmithing. Cheeky as it is, could I request a video demonstrating how fast that and other wire whip "extensions" and locks can be cut through, i feel that people would benefit from a visual demonstration of just how useless they are.
So, I learned a long time ago that if a Comic Book or something says, "Collectors Edition" or "Limited Edition" it usually isn't. I see the "heavy duty" is the same meaning on locks.
I am a former bicycle mechanic and own several custom built frames with expensive components. I don’t leave these bikes alone anywhere but at home. A old frame and used parts are my grocery getter👍
Yay! The return of TPTBBAIM! Jokes aside, if a lock takes that kind of tool to be picked, even if the LPL makes it seem easy... I think said lock is a tad above the average.
Right -- he said it would be hard to cut without power tools, and it requires specializes skill and tools to pick it. So it may be OK for a lot of applications.
I've watched so many of these LPL video's when I'm out in public like to say the same thing to everyone. "In any case that's all I have for you today ..."
Watching here for the last few years let me select a new set of steel and brass Schlage door locks for a place I've renovated and put on the market. They look nice, and at least should keep out the random junkies and bums looking for stuff to steal (there's a tent community not too far away). The el-cheapo aluminum Kwikset locks on it previously could be bypassed with a large screwdriver and a bit of muscle (as we did when we discovered that there was no key to the patio storage).
Lock companies that get the coveted "This is a lock I would use." from LPL on one of their models should be putting that on the package (in large font)!
Lock picking is a fine art you have mastered very few people could pick a lock like you can. I have just bought a new motorcycle and would like to know the best levels of protection I should get, all locks are vulnerable to a brute force attack so a combination of locks are needed. You are a lock pick but you know your locks what locks would you recommend that would withstand a brute force attack.
When I saw that advertisement on packaging claiming "1000$ protection" I immediately fought: what in case of someone picking the lock? How do you, as a customer, could prove item was stolen by picking a lock and not simply left unlocked? Having an appraiser opinion on lock core would probably cost more than that "offer".
Honestly whenever 'the tool that bosnian Bill and I made' comes out, I always end up wondering... How common are picks made for disc detainer locks? Like I know he sells them, but did they exist and were in circulation before he made them available?
This is one of those locks that will keep a "casual" thief of opportunity from trying. You know the type. Walking down the sidewalk and sees something of value and they slow down, scoping the area and situation to assess the viability of flipping for a quick buck. Then he sees this thing and decides its not worth the effort. But a determined thief with knowledge and tools? It may slow them for about a minute, but whatever you're trying to protect is gone.
I have a kryptonite lock that I use on my everyday bike (~700 dollar a few years ago). These kryptonite locks are sufficient for that use. Unlikely that anybody picks the lock. Much more likely they vandalize the bike, steal parts or simply ignore it and go for a more expensive bike with a weaker lock.
It looks like a good bike lock for the money, "about $40", but in reading many Walmart reviews the core fails after a couple of months being cheaply made. LPL nails it again! TY😊
Insurance companies probably have a lot of statistics regarding locks and how they were defeated. It would be interesting to hear what they have to say about this. Is lock picking thieves a huge cost for them or is it the brute force attacks that cost them more money? Also the volumes are interesting. How common is it that a lock has been picked or bypassed compared to having been forced in a destructive way?
Bicycle thieves don't pick locks, they just cut the shackles/chains. Bolt cutter or angle grinder depending on the thickness/hardness. Practically impossible to secure an expensive (lightweight) bike well enough to deter a competent thief unless you're going to carry heavy and bulky motorcycle-level security, in which case why did you buy a lightweight bike?
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The best thing about this lock is the return of the "the pick that BosnianBill and I made."
i thought the same
The pick is back baby!
Speaking of BosnianBill I hope he is doing well.
@@1oddtechyou and me both...
Yep, I actually get nostalgic for BB's channel whenever the pick is used again.
Honestly, I've gotten to the point where if the wave rake or bypass tool don't come out, I'm thinking, "Well, at least it is a lock, and not just a lock-shaped object."
Yeah, I kind of feel like if the "pick that Bosnian Bill and I made" comes out, it's a pretty decent lock.
yea this one still requires skill and a custom tool! I think its not that bad
Whilst I agree, thieves don't even try shims, wave rakes or bypass tools around here. It's a gang with a battery powered angle grinder every time.
Ten seconds later they're off on someone's bike, with the bystanders slowly realising what they just saw on a busy shopping street in broad daylight.
A picture of a high security lock taped to your bike would be slightly better.
Wave rake, comb, bypass tool. If LPL uses one of those, it's a lock-shaped object to me too.
Walmart is notorious for pushing companies that make high quality products to make a cheaper, poorer quality version for them to sell. At least Kryptonite gave it a different model number.
I find it amazing the average person hasn't figured that out yet.
One important thing is tge lock has a rating of 5. The scale looks like it's 5 out of 5, i.e. the best.
Just that Kryptonite actually has a 10-step scale.
Sucks that it can affect their reputation for doing so, they should have a disclaimer on these weaker locks like 'you get what you pay for'...
@@professorpwerrel If they're going to profit from using their own branding in that way, obviously it SHOULD affect their reputation. They're prioritising sales through their brand recognition over quality.
If they wanted to offer a cheaper product and not be associated with it, they'd just spin up another brand
I was an IT analyst for a tool manufacturer whose biggest customer was Walmart. The Big W was ruthless in demanding lower costs and “efficiencies” from its vendors. They ALSO took 90 days to pay us, so they could put the burden of financing all their purchased inventory on us.
LPL: “without being made out of plastic”
Target executives: “wait we can make those out of plastic?! Susan call up the design team!”
WalMart is already prototyping it.
Bioengineers working on plastic-eating bacteria: "Finally. Our time is nigh."
I think it might go more along, Target executives "wait, it WASN'T made out of plastic?!?"
Susan left YT for target
LPL: * escapes from prison *
LPL: * is recaptured *
LPL: “Let me do that one more time to show it was not a fluke”
LockPickingLawyer is literally kryptonite to every single lock he touches.
Literally? He is made of noble gasses?
You won the internet for today
@@ferretyluv When he farts, yes
Not literally. But your comment is a bit illiterate.
@@Nyx773 you’re just jealous you didn’t think of the comment. 🖕😂😂😂
I'd love Bill to make a guest appearance on LPL channel some day. I'd love to know how he's getting on. To me Bill was the Godfather of lockpicking.
You must be new here. Bill has retired and will no longer make his own videos, let alone guest appearances
@@tailpig6417 Thanks for the update. I somehow missed that BosnianBill has retired and have been wondering for a while. To be honest I drop in and out of watching lock picking videos so I can see how I could have miss it.
Been a couple years now I think. Still, it would be nice to know how he's doing.
@@tailpig6417 I know bill retired I just said it would be nice if he made an appearance.
@Tailpig Making an appearance on a LPL video would be a lot easier for him than making and editing his own video. Being retired doesn't mean he can never be in another video ever again. Of course the OP knew he's retired. Get your reading comprehension up.
I'd really love to see how hard it is to open one of these locks without your custom tools!
Yes, me too!
The only real issue is being able to tension it and still have room for the picking tool. That's where that tool really rocks.
I think this is a valid point. If this lock requires a bike thief to be in possession of "the tool that Bosnian Bill and I made" in order to pick it I would consider it I would consider it pretty safe. Maybe that is not the case?
@@johanegneblad in video 640 he shows how to get a lot out of a 5$ pick and a file. The pick he has now been using for ages is just one he made for the higher quality, for example the markings are very helpful and make picking faster/easier, but are not required
The pick that is being used here is available commercially from Sparrows. And it is just a refined version of other similar tools that had been available for ages. LPL used to use them.
I still have a kryptonite U lock from the 90's that saved my bike from theft at my high school. They tried to cut the shackle, and though it left a mark, I see it as a trophy of success.
your bike was expensive?
@@goku445 no, just valuable to me as transportation to school. I was in marching band, and we had a parade field trip that day. I was grateful to have my bike to get me home that night.
I used one to lock a crackheads bike to the backstay on a power pole.
The utility came out and after mangling the lock, cut the bike apart to remove it.
It is there to this day.
@@wayneessar7489hell yeah, you really made that drug addict's life harder by locking up his transportation. Nice job screwing over that guy!
@@TrueHaiku
Tweakers steal fresh new better bikes all the time.
That person went on to better things.
He said the thing!
I hope Bill is doing well.
I don't know too much about BosnianBill's channel outside of what I've learned from LPL, it I definitely appreciate the respectful nod to Bill every time the special pick is used. Classy move, sir
That reminds me. Many years ago, Walter Knott (Knotts Berry Farm) heard rumors of a new hybrid berry with a great taste. After some searching he found an abandoned field and rescued a few plants that were still hanging on. He named the Boysenberry after its creator, Rudolph Boysen. He could easily have taken credit, but chose class. And the Boysenberry was still the springboard to success for the Knott family.
@@briant7265 I do like Boysenberry jam. Most Christmases I'll get a jar as a gift. Harry (LPL) originally conceptualized the pick, Bill was the machinist. They collabed on the actual design and came up with a world-class tool which still sells out quickly.
There's just something about the 'clicks', that are so damn satisfying. It's like a quick endorphin rush.
I wondered what that immense cheering was that I heard about 8 hours ago, then I see that you dropped a new vid with the immortal words "... the pick that Bosnian Bill and I made ..." and it all becomes clear - 100k voices screaming with delight.
Awesome.
The Bosnian Bill reference always warms my heart ❤️
It's always so heartwarming to hear, "the pick that Bosnian Bill and I made".
I recently went to get a spare key made for a disc detainer padlock and I tried nearly dozen locksmiths many of who didn't have tools or blanks to make a key and a few had never even seen a lock like what I had. If a locksmith in a major city doesn't have the tools to work with a disc detainer lock then maybe it's fairly safe to bet that the guy trying to steal your bike isn't going to know or care about the lock at all and jump straight to physical attacks.
Yeah, nobody is going to be picking that kind of lock in the field. As you said those locks are insanely uncommon so hardly anyone knows how to work them.
The thing with bike locks is you only have to good enough that it isn't worth it. Most of the time you are worried about raking, shims, and bolt cutters which this should be good against. The fact is that nobody is going to be using that kind of pick to steal bikes. They are going to be using a power tool before that point. I mean yeah for a high dollar bike I would probably go with other options but this works great for most bikes.
I was talking to a locksmith recently and it seems that lock sport enthusiasts own more locksmith tools.
I've only been picking for a year now and my collection of tools was way more extensive than his.🤣
My only encounters with a disc detainer lock were the one on the gate padlock at our gun club outdoor range. At the time it was the strangest lock I ever saw because the key was unlike any I ever saw before. Thanks to LPL I have a better understanding.
@@R33f4_61 locksmith operate on the same basis as thieves. Easiest to learn, biggest impact on opening. Single pin picking is just too nuanced.
Bypassing or brute forcing is the way.
@@paulelderson934 Spot on mate.
He did give me some good tips on where and how to drill out a lock. Lol
He also did say that SPP is something they generally don't bother with.
Time is money as they say...
THREE CHEERS for "the Pick and Bosnian Bill and I made" . Hope Bill is well and any time I see this phrase I think of him.
Biggest thing with these locks is that they are meant to be cut resistant and not pick resistant, especially since disc detainer picks aren't all that commonly made outside of Sparrows.
I haven't had much practice (only like an hour, vs days and days with traditional pin tumblers), but I haven't really figured out picking them. I can do any pin tumblers without security pins (and many with), but haven't successfully picked a disc yet.
There are several disc detainer picks on the market and about that many more DIY one-offs being used.
Please do a video on the angle grinder-resistant Litelok X1 or X3 U-locks, the latter which has a "pick-proof" Abloy sentry cylinder!
“Meh” is actually high praise on this channel
I miss Bill. I hope he's doing well.
I miss bosnian Bill. His videos got me in to picking and taught me a lot
Everybody gangsta till the Pick that BosnianBill and I Made comes out…
Reading the front packaging, LPL could make himself an easy $1k 😊
Um, no...I'm sure Kryptonite's legal department put in more than enough caveats and conditions so that only an attorney (who was specifically not designated as a lock-picking expert in codicil 3.a.iv.c2) could have a chance to get the $1,000...
...and that presumes Wal-Mart actually sold a bike for $1,000 (I'm sure the guarantee limits the amount to the purchase price of the bike, with likely deductions for depreciation on the most aggressive accelerated depreciation schedule that the lawyers could come up with).
also, afaik, that $1000 anti-theft protection offer thing is usually only related to the lock being cut open or something along those lines so, eh.
Yeah, that is a "if you can prove that you used our lock, and it was cut, then we will refund your lost bike up to $1,000"
The Bosnian Bill tool is the best endorsement a lock can get on this channel.
I have this exact lock. It was less than $30. Picking attacks aren't exactly the preferred method around where i live. Hacksaws , or the dreaded cordless reciprocating saw or cordless angle grinder are the preferred tools to attack a u-lock. This ones going to take some time with either, since it does lock at both ends, requiring two cuts. But i consider it a one hour lock at best. One hour being the amount of time you can leave a bike locked up outside on the street.
My shed was broken into a few years ago (ripped the lock clasp out of the wall with a crowbar) and the only tool they took was my DeWalt angle grinder. They left all the other tools in the set.
The words "picked fast" have me on the edge of my seat. I haven't even watched the video yet.
Welp, I guess I'm just gonna take my bike into the restaurant, and when they ask me to please leave it outside and I'll flip out and say “YOU HAVEN’T SEEN THE LOCKPICKING LAWYER HAVE YOU LADY?!” while shaking this lock in the air and rolling my bike calmly thru the dining room.
It's fine, just bring a small acetylene torch and weld your bike to the rack before entering. It will be safe then.
but the LOCKPICKING LAWYER can only be identified by his soothing voice how would the lady know i?
@@femsplainerYUP...THAT WILL DO IT...JUST ABOUT 3000°F AND ONE RED HOT MOLTEN TIRE LATER....SOMEONE LOOKS AND SAYS....DAMN!!! DID YOU JUST RIDE THROUGH MOLTEN LAVA????.LOL..LOL
I will tell the waitress "she's my +1" in this day and age I reckon it's acceptable.
Went to a brewery restaurant yesterday that had a bike rack inside. Was cool to see!
Man! You haven’t been on my FYP in forever!!! I was worried something happened to the channel. I’m happy to see you’re still around!
The pick that bosnian bill and he made!🎉
Damn I miss Bosnian Bill, his videos and the challenge locks. 😢
What are the units for that security rating? Seconds?
Thanks for the video and information.
Profit margin.
When I saw the lock I got a little nervous. I use that brand to keep my bike safe. Nice to see you need a special tool to pick it quickly. Great content as always LPL.
You need a special tool to pick it *at all*, plus the knowledge to use that tool correctly. Unless you've got a truly dedicated cat burglar bike thief going through your neighborhood this lock would probably do you fine.
@@jasonmack760 It will do you fine for a bike worth less than about $500. For a bike worth $2,000+, you want something better.
@@briant7265 If your bike is worth $2k, are you buying your bike lock at Walmart?
@@jasonmack760 No.
If this guy were a cat, he would pick the food cans open himself no matter how hard you hide them
I've enjoyed your videos for years and finally ordered your beginner set. I'm looking forward to giggling madly to myself, quoting you while picking basic pins
It seems to me that any of these disk detainer locks are the way to go. I feel like LPL is the only one who can open these because he has the only tool in existence that can pick them. So if LPL wants to steal my bike, I'd be honored.
Most thieves aren't picking locks, they just cut them, so it's probably not that bad a choice.
At this point, I'd consider any lock LPL called "meh" over one he called an embarrassing POS.
Wow!! That was both foreplay and clean up.
I love the whether cover design!
It is still worth remembering most thieves aren't LPL. They don't have RPG Rogue level lockpicking skills. They're looking for locks that are easy to cut quickly, or for totally unsecured things.
I think this would definitely deter a lot of thieves looking to get in and out fast, but always spend the money for a truly high quality lock if you can.
Great video LPL!
i miss bosnian bill, thank you for continuing to use the prototype version of that tool you made together with him, i know the finished mass manufatured version of it looks nicer but that one has cetimental value, to you as much to us i imagine, hes your friend too after all
Thanks for sharing.🙏
Legendary tool!
"Meh" is basically a resounding endorsement on this channel. Anything that's not opened with a plastic bottle is a screaming success.
Thank you LPL.
It seems to me that the vast majority of disk detainer locks can't be picked with traditional tools - like a normal pick, but require your bespoken tool to tension and rotate each disk in the sandwich inside the lock mechanism. To me, it seems an adequate protection from the casual lock picker, who came to pilfer the bike. He does try to pick the lock for one minute with whatever tools he brought with him (certainly not the BB/LPL disk-detainer pick tool), and then he switches to the bolt-cutter or angle-grinder for the definitively wicked outcome.
Such kinds of marauders and brigands aren't special-ops agents who can concentrate fully on one task at the time, or even distinguish the details of locks and picking tools; so the effective barrier to the theft is psychological, in this case the hefty and robust look of the lock device; so the manufacturer skimped on the truly expensive component, i.e. the lock core.
Thank you once more, all the best,
Anthony
It took me longer to toast my bagel this morning 😅
Since Bill's retirement, it seems lock manufacturers would be best suited to make a disc detainer core with more discs than the pick can reach.
@LPL It would be very interesting to see the inside of a disc detainer lock while it being picked. As a suggestion for a future video =). Thanks!
The fear in my soul when I see my exact bike lock in the thumbnail with "picked fast" in the title
1:14 is the part any LPL fan needs to hear!!
At least it has a $1000 anti-theft protection offer. I just hope that, differently than the lock, this offer works.
Honestly, the name on the lock is probably enough to make thieves shop for easier targets...
I like the videos (short as they are) that are genuine picking and not just an advertisement for C.I.
Well, at least it wasn't a wave rake 😅
I like how he says that he doesn't really like this lock even though he has to pull out the tool that he made with Bosnian Bill. Just pulling out a custom-made tool is enough for me to be like hey, this is probably a decent lock to buy.
I love how you just left all the packaging on it so you can return it :P
LPL and BosnianBill
name a more iconic duo
Holmes and Watson, Batman and Robin, Simon and Garfunkel, Clever & Smart
Those hands have never seen a minute of hard physical work
He's a lawyer, a professional locksmith/picker and a very successful CZcamsr. He's rolling in cash so I don't think he needs to do hard physical work kek.
@@gundalfthelost1624 never implied he needed to just obviously has done little. As a brick/block mason, my hands show wear and tear.
I would like to see more videos that feature "good lock from bad brand" or "bad lock from good brand". Thanks for this one, LPL!
I didn't realize Superman was stealing peoples bikes. Shame on you, Superman!
LPL was the kid who got told by his elementary school teacher to Stop picking his nose 👃🏼
Well LPL, you’ve done it.
Apart from the numerous (~16?) small pad locks from ABUS, I now own about 5 high security locks from ABUS and a few loose security bits (Wall anchors, box flip over locks, chains).
Must say money very well spend. Every lock functions excellent, some for multiple years on an open boat.
Love what you do, you and bill inspired me to learn basic picking and locksmithing.
Cheeky as it is, could I request a video demonstrating how fast that and other wire whip "extensions" and locks can be cut through, i feel that people would benefit from a visual demonstration of just how useless they are.
I second the destructive testing!
Discs.
I instantly plaster a silly grin on my face, and await for the glorious moment where "the lockpick that Bosnian Bill and I made" shows up.
I have absolutely no interest in locks, but its so satisfying watching this guy destroy any lock without any force
Now return it unlocked and tell them is it lousy and you want your money back!!
With a video length of 2;47, I was shaking my head before I watched it.
So, I learned a long time ago that if a Comic Book or something says, "Collectors Edition" or "Limited Edition" it usually isn't.
I see the "heavy duty" is the same meaning on locks.
Kryptonite U lock always remind me to that locksmith that grinds every disc detainer lock he encounter
We all know that companies will exaggerate claims to move or sell products.
I am a former bicycle mechanic and own several custom built frames with expensive components.
I don’t leave these bikes alone anywhere but at home.
A old frame and used parts are my grocery getter👍
LPL has taught me just to weld everything shut lol
Can't wait for my Covert Instruments order to arrive, I do almost nothing all day at work with long hours; so have plenty of time to practice.
I hope your boss doesn't read that.
@@--_DJ_-- 😁
@@--_DJ_-- they know, fill out about 15 minutes of paperwork in the morning then just wait on stanby if needed. I operate cranes currently.
@@chevyinlinesix Even a busy crane operator sits more than he works.
You need to send the manufacturer this video and claim that $1000 bounty from the packaging 😂
Wow I have the same one I use every day!
😅😅😅I love it he do this.. Just pick the lock 🔒 🔐 🔓 so nonchalantly like hahahah😅yesssssss! 👊🏿
Kryptonite - a subsidiary of Master Lock.
I saw this at the store and was shocked it was half the price of other Kryptonite locks, you get what you pay for.
After all the years of great videos I really wish LPL would design his own line of locks.
Yay!
The return of TPTBBAIM!
Jokes aside, if a lock takes that kind of tool to be picked, even if the LPL makes it seem easy... I think said lock is a tad above the average.
The average can be opened with mere looks by lpl
Right -- he said it would be hard to cut without power tools, and it requires specializes skill and tools to pick it. So it may be OK for a lot of applications.
@Herr Baum I am sure Masterlocks commit sepuku and spill their own guts as soon as he comes into sight now...
I've watched so many of these LPL video's when I'm out in public like to say the same thing to everyone. "In any case that's all I have for you today ..."
Watching here for the last few years let me select a new set of steel and brass Schlage door locks for a place I've renovated and put on the market. They look nice, and at least should keep out the random junkies and bums looking for stuff to steal (there's a tent community not too far away). The el-cheapo aluminum Kwikset locks on it previously could be bypassed with a large screwdriver and a bit of muscle (as we did when we discovered that there was no key to the patio storage).
After Kryptonite sees this video they will remove that 1000 dollar anti-theft protection.
Lock companies that get the coveted "This is a lock I would use." from LPL on one of their models should be putting that on the package (in large font)!
The rest of us need a spreadsheet of locks (which are) evaluated by picking difficulty: a 'difficulty' set by our very dear skilled pickers like LPL.
Lock picking is a fine art you have mastered very few people could pick a lock like you can. I have just bought a new motorcycle and would like to know the best levels of protection I should get, all locks are vulnerable to a brute force attack so a combination of locks are needed. You are a lock pick but you know your locks what locks would you recommend that would withstand a brute force attack.
It’s been working just fine for 50 yeazzzzzz!!
When I saw that advertisement on packaging claiming "1000$ protection" I immediately fought: what in case of someone picking the lock? How do you, as a customer, could prove item was stolen by picking a lock and not simply left unlocked? Having an appraiser opinion on lock core would probably cost more than that "offer".
The greatest thing I've seen on the LPL'S channel is this exact pick that he made with Bosnian Bill. It's just sheer perfection.
Honestly whenever 'the tool that bosnian Bill and I made' comes out, I always end up wondering... How common are picks made for disc detainer locks? Like I know he sells them, but did they exist and were in circulation before he made them available?
That pick costs more than my bike is worth so I feel pretty good about this one.
This is one of those locks that will keep a "casual" thief of opportunity from trying. You know the type. Walking down the sidewalk and sees something of value and they slow down, scoping the area and situation to assess the viability of flipping for a quick buck. Then he sees this thing and decides its not worth the effort. But a determined thief with knowledge and tools? It may slow them for about a minute, but whatever you're trying to protect is gone.
Wow for Lockpickinglawyer this is a glowing review!
I have a kryptonite lock that I use on my everyday bike (~700 dollar a few years ago). These kryptonite locks are sufficient for that use. Unlikely that anybody picks the lock. Much more likely they vandalize the bike, steal parts or simply ignore it and go for a more expensive bike with a weaker lock.
It looks like a good bike lock for the money, "about $40", but in reading many Walmart reviews the core fails after a couple of months being cheaply made. LPL nails it again! TY😊
Would be fun to try to open locks like this without use of any of specialized tools.
Insurance companies probably have a lot of statistics regarding locks and how they were defeated. It would be interesting to hear what they have to say about this. Is lock picking thieves a huge cost for them or is it the brute force attacks that cost them more money? Also the volumes are interesting. How common is it that a lock has been picked or bypassed compared to having been forced in a destructive way?
Bicycle thieves don't pick locks, they just cut the shackles/chains. Bolt cutter or angle grinder depending on the thickness/hardness. Practically impossible to secure an expensive (lightweight) bike well enough to deter a competent thief unless you're going to carry heavy and bulky motorcycle-level security, in which case why did you buy a lightweight bike?
ABUS also use a security 'scale' to market their products.
Yeah Walmart pushes to have low prices to draw people in. They would rather sell 1000 $1 locks over selling 1 $1000 lock.