Science of Golf: Why Golf Balls Have Dimples

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  • čas přidán 10. 09. 2024
  • NBC Learn, in partnership with the United States Golf Association, explores the Science of Golf. Here, Steve Quintavella, USGA equipment standards operations manager, illustrates why golf balls have dimples and what they do for distance. Visit www.NBCLearn.com for more.
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Komentáře • 106

  • @ylmazbarserkan2307
    @ylmazbarserkan2307 Před 5 lety +95

    Nice, now I am gonna use this information in my Fluid Dynamics final

    • @wjstreams
      @wjstreams Před 4 lety +3

      mine is for a physics project lol

    • @Tom-om9bg
      @Tom-om9bg Před 3 lety +4

      Haha same lol

    • @jackdawson2204
      @jackdawson2204 Před 3 lety +5

      You an me both haha

    • @mlfb01ag
      @mlfb01ag Před 3 lety

      Mmh.. maybe not a good idea.
      According with this (more clear and convincing) professor, the deflection is due to the Magnus effect, wich is a particular case of the third Newton's Law of Dynamics. And some videos overtly say that Bernoulli has nothing to do with that.
      czcams.com/video/23f1jvGUWJs/video.html
      Same professor on the role of seams on balls:
      czcams.com/video/t-3jnOIJg4k/video.html

    • @inertiaking1
      @inertiaking1 Před 3 lety

      I tried to look up why rival darts have dimples but that didn't work.

  • @dougsholly9323
    @dougsholly9323 Před 4 lety +140

    Awesome. But this still doesn't explain why my ball always ends up in the woods...

    • @Tom-om9bg
      @Tom-om9bg Před 3 lety +1

      Haha probably because you’re bad. Sounds like my mate William 😂

    • @iwatchyoutube6539
      @iwatchyoutube6539 Před 3 lety +4

      @@Tom-om9bg Why do you have to step on his silly joke by commenting my guy? Let him have his funny comment. He was obviously just making a joke and you stepped all over it like bit killer jones.

    • @Tom-om9bg
      @Tom-om9bg Před 3 lety +1

      @@iwatchyoutube6539 jeez was only a cheeky joke calm down, no need to get mad me and doug sholly are mates

    • @iwatchyoutube6539
      @iwatchyoutube6539 Před 3 lety +1

      @@Tom-om9bg You still stepped on his joke lol. He already made a joke saying he was bad and you basically made the same joke in the reply lol

    • @vango7191
      @vango7191 Před 2 lety

      Rotational inertia?

  • @Thomas-rv7mq
    @Thomas-rv7mq Před 3 lety +36

    Just a correction at 2:00, low pressure does not “suck” the ball, its the high pressure area around the side of the ball thats “pushing backwards” the ball because its trying to go with the low pressure because of the pressure difference

    • @Phony-baloney8
      @Phony-baloney8 Před 3 měsíci

      That’s so interesting. All this physics stuff is so new to me (as I never took a class on any of this). I find it fascinating. I know I asked this elsewhere, but why don’t they make the surfaces of planes and rocket ships dimpled? Would this help them go faster? What if they did this to cars? Would it make them more fuel efficient?

    • @iPodManProductions
      @iPodManProductions Před 3 měsíci

      ​​@@Phony-baloney8 Dimples work on a golf ball because it could be spinning in any orientation so you can just cover the whole thing. In the case of planes and rockets and cars there are more efficient ways to achieve the same effect. Google "vortex generator" to get an idea.
      The best summary for why we don't just dimple everything though would be, you have to consider all the possible trade offs, cost, weight, complexity, manufacturing time, on and on and on. For a golf ball it works super well and isn't hard to do. For a car or plane or rocket it's easier to find other ways to reduce drag than trying to dimple the whole thing.
      I think the mythbusters did an episode with a dimple car though, you can find that on CZcams.

  • @jarodmorris611
    @jarodmorris611 Před 8 lety +48

    Makes sense. A friend of my father's had an airplane that went through a hail storm. He swore the airplane flew 3 - 4 kts faster after the hail storm.

    • @pinklady7184
      @pinklady7184 Před 4 lety +3

      I often wonder what it would like to fly an airplane with dimpled surface or at least with some areas being dimpled and others smooth.

    • @8bit_pineapple
      @8bit_pineapple Před 4 lety +10

      ​@@pinklady7184 Dimples cause higher friction. With a golf ball, the decrease in wake drag makes up for it ... but in the case of a plane they are already aerodynamic, so the percentage you decrease wake drag is much lower and probably wouldn't compensate enough for the increase in friction (If it did I'd assume people would be doing it already).

    • @estoniaman
      @estoniaman Před 4 lety +1

      @@pinklady7184 A similar concept is actually already used. "Vortex generator" is the key word. But @8bitpineapple is also correct. These are not typically used on airliners. If I remember correctly then the vortex generators improve low-speed flight characteristics while in cruise it would add slightly more drag - at higher velocities the skin friction drag dominates, rather than the pressure drag (which the dimples intend to reduce). By the way, I'd imagine that in theory a teardrop shaped (or something cross-sectionally similar to an airfoil) golf ball would fly the furthest...of course hitting and having it maintain the attitude would be difficult.

  • @brumfiba
    @brumfiba Před 10 měsíci +1

    Can we all just stop and appreciate how smooth that bunker shot at the end was...

  • @letsseeif
    @letsseeif Před rokem +3

    Some years ago, Boeing used a redundant early 737 to 'golfball dimple' the fuselage. They did not touch wing tail or other lift surfaces. Just by 'dimpling' the fuselage, Boeing noted 3 per cent less drag resulting in a big fuel saving. [ps. This was never implemented on operational aircraft due long parking near maritime and other industrial toxics and related issues.]

    • @billyjack8119
      @billyjack8119 Před 10 měsíci

      I was jusr going to say why doesnt are cars or airplanes have this surface.

  • @dwptechduco
    @dwptechduco Před 5 měsíci

    Would this same principle apply to a smaller ball, for example one that is .6840" (17.37mm) with dimples relative to its size moving at 300 to 400fps? Or does it even matter at this size whether it has dimples or not? Thank you for any advice you can share!

  • @cameronbrookes4974
    @cameronbrookes4974 Před 3 lety +1

    will this help me keeping the ball on the fairway? and reducing my 20yd slice:)

  • @Tom-om9bg
    @Tom-om9bg Před 3 lety

    Very interesting video. Thanks

  • @zandiviljoen146
    @zandiviljoen146 Před 3 lety +5

    I don't know anything about golf but my physics prof said we're gonna get questions about this in our test so thanks guys:)

    • @mlfb01ag
      @mlfb01ag Před 3 lety

      Mmh..
      According with this (more clear and convincing) professor, the deflection is due to the Magnus effect, wich is a particular case of the third Newton's Law of Dynamics. And some videos overtly say that Bernoulli has nothing to do with that.
      czcams.com/video/23f1jvGUWJs/video.html
      Same professor on the role of seams on balls:
      czcams.com/video/t-3jnOIJg4k/video.html

  • @tszabon
    @tszabon Před 6 lety +14

    Why car body doesn't have these dimples than?

    • @87stratman
      @87stratman Před 6 lety +7

      It works, mythbusters did a car with dimples.

    • @bradyjordangolf8228
      @bradyjordangolf8228 Před 6 lety +1

      MountainTech that’s sick, what episode?

    • @pinklady7184
      @pinklady7184 Před 4 lety +1

      Imagine dimples on bodies of airplanes and space rockets.

    • @beernpizzalover9035
      @beernpizzalover9035 Před 4 lety +1

      Tomasz Sz I know that the Corbin Sparrow - a 3 wheeled microcar - actually did.

    • @wjstreams
      @wjstreams Před 4 lety

      Cosmetics

  • @TheIncomparableGolfer

    This is good golf information. Like taking a science class in school

  • @EverythingCameFromNothing

    Would dimples help the flow of air in a motors exhaust system?

    • @freshmanfrenchman1
      @freshmanfrenchman1 Před 3 lety

      most of the exhaust is flowing through the middle of the tube not touching the sides. you may see the exhaust on the sides move faster, but that would be an undetectable change in performance.

    • @EverythingCameFromNothing
      @EverythingCameFromNothing Před 3 lety +2

      There are sections of the tubing that are not straight, i.e. bends and mufflers, so it is not all attached flow
      If the air moves faster at the sides, even if only a small width, the volume of air moving faster would be great due to the radius squared factor, so it’s possible it may be detectable. In Motorsport, races are won by seconds from seemingly undetectable advantages 🤷

  • @narwhalguy3829
    @narwhalguy3829 Před rokem +2

    hardest intro in history 😭😭😭😭

  • @snehashahid07
    @snehashahid07 Před rokem

    This helped me to learn my test question "Why do golf balls have dimples"? thanks I learnt while watching

  • @ErnestLingerfelt
    @ErnestLingerfelt Před 3 lety

    if you increase your overal leanth of serfice to 60ft by 14ft what would the size of dimple and spaced apart at 15mph what would be like

  • @TrinityUnofficial
    @TrinityUnofficial Před 6 měsíci

    lol "put my pink panther ball in there"

  • @konnerkramer329
    @konnerkramer329 Před 4 lety +2

    Might sound weird but I only watched this video trying to do research into combustion chamber efficiency on an engine.

  • @carmelpule6954
    @carmelpule6954 Před 7 lety +10

    If this is so , then it makes one think and wonder why all the wings in modern aircraft as the Boeing 777 and the 707 and the Airbus 380 are not all covered with dimples?
    Fluid dynamics are so very complex indeed. I would say that it all has to do with two type of vortexes. Those type of vortexes that are long and stretched and their axis is parallel with the motion of the item in question and occur on wing tips and and intentional vortex generators, they seem to move back with respect to the flying object in question and grow in size till they break down. And there are the others, whose axis is at right angle with the velocity of the item , they are short stubby no bigger than the flying item itself and rotate in some location on the flying object and they seem to be carried and move with the flying object at the back and sometimes at the front end, where they rotate in some localised corner till due to turbulence they oscillate and are replaced by similar vortexes.
    In a golf ball there are so many different conditions to consider. Behind a smooth golf ball, the latter ones could be like those ring vortexes which are circles and curl on themselves and with which dolphin and whales like to create and play about with. turbulence and irregularities do disturb such beautiful ring vortexes.
    1.There is a situation where the ball just travels and does not spin in any direction. The dimples on the circumference behind the front compression zone create long stretched elongated vortexes of ever growing radius, rotating helix which due to viscous and momentum force, will pump in air to fill the space behind the ball, presumably increasing the pressure behind the golf ball and lowering the drag.
    2. There is a situation where the ball spins in some direction where the axis of the spin could be existing in a flat plane at right angle to the motion of the ball. In this case the ball will be subjected to a force known as Magnus effect which will cause the ball to swing in one preferred direction and this is a situation where footballers shooting a ball use it to score a goal from the corner point. In case of a golf ball swinging and curving in the upper direction, this would cause the golf ball to fly for a longer time , hence to improve range. Please note that I prefer to call the lifting due to a rotating ball as it travels forward , the Magnus effect rather than the Bernoulli effect.
    3, There is a situation where the the axis of the spin could be parallel with the direction of flight of the ball, but due to the nature of the club hitting the ball, this latter state never really occur in a golf ball. In guns however, when bullets and missiles are shot, it is desirable to spin them around the axis parallel to the flight as this cause it to behave like a gyro and will not cause the bullet to tumble over itself as it makes its way to the target. In a golf ball due to the fact that it is a sphere, the latter is not of concern.

    • @rightyourwrong
      @rightyourwrong Před 7 lety +3

      i stopped reading when you said "vortexes".... see the red line under that word bro. VORTICES

    • @soraaoixxthebluesky
      @soraaoixxthebluesky Před 5 lety +1

      TLDR

    • @mordyfisher4269
      @mordyfisher4269 Před 5 lety +2

      The cross section of a wing is tear drop shaped not spherical... There is little to no vacuumm affect on the taillong esge of a wing so the golf ball efgect does not apply... If golf balls were tear drop shaped. They would not need dimples, but they would be hard to hit

    • @pinklady7184
      @pinklady7184 Před 4 lety

      Carmel Pule' do you study or work in engineering? If so, what softwares do you use at work?

    • @estoniaman
      @estoniaman Před 4 lety +1

      @@mordyfisher4269 True, copying my another answer: "A similar concept is actually already used. "Vortex generator" is the key word. But these are not typically used on airliners. If I remember correctly then the vortex generators improve low-speed flight characteristics while in cruise it would add slightly more drag - at higher velocities the skin friction drag dominates, rather than the pressure drag (which the dimples intend to reduce). "

  • @Phony-baloney8
    @Phony-baloney8 Před 3 měsíci

    What would happen if they put dimples on planes and rocket ships? Would this make them go faster? I’m new to all this physics stuff . . . So if anyone know, feel free to share! Thanks!

  • @soraaoixxthebluesky
    @soraaoixxthebluesky Před 5 lety +2

    Turbulent boundary layers vs laminar boundary layers. Turbulent boundary layers can sustain adverse pressure gradient better than it’s counterparts. Turbulent or vortex generated by this rough surface transport kinetic energy for the edge of boundary layers to a low momentum flow at the surface. This will greatly reduce flow separation or reverse flow that will cause drag. Of course you need energy to bend the fluid to create vortex thus creating drag but the result of total drag reduction generated via vortex generator far outweight it’s disadvantages.

  • @uzimakipro22
    @uzimakipro22 Před 9 měsíci +1

    USGA doesn’t regulate dimples?

  • @uzimakipro22
    @uzimakipro22 Před 9 měsíci

    Looking to learn more on behalf of NP Power Golf.

  • @kcass72
    @kcass72 Před 4 lety

    Titleist are the best 👍🏻

  • @shantanuchakraborty2920

    Best explanation..

  • @Kane-ib5sn
    @Kane-ib5sn Před 3 měsíci

    i remember having a baseball-sized foam-ball with dimples. it really fell to the ground fast, without spin. with back-spin, it floated forward.
    the dimples catch air, and let the ball ride.
    a golfer puts back-spin on the ball. in summary, i find the current understanding of dimples on a golf ball to be seriously flawed...

  • @sethumohanlal1738
    @sethumohanlal1738 Před 3 lety

    Dimples are created to make the flow turbulent because turbulence have high energy and delays floe seperation.
    Correct me if iam wrong.

  • @rudipalm9224
    @rudipalm9224 Před 4 měsíci

    why not mini dimples inside the big dimples ?

  • @abdulmuqsit7568
    @abdulmuqsit7568 Před rokem

    No matter how hard I try wind physics and air flow never make sense like how air even cause lift it’s magic

  • @Frostyskywalker2
    @Frostyskywalker2 Před 29 dny

    Why not add more dimples then? All of my golf balls have the same number of dimples I’ve checked.

  • @uttkarshsachan4063
    @uttkarshsachan4063 Před 4 lety +1

    What if the golf ball isn't rotating, still these dimples would work?

  • @jsmariani4180
    @jsmariani4180 Před 5 lety +3

    I don't think the dimples are 1,500th of a millimeter.

    • @dmn257
      @dmn257 Před 5 lety +4

      he said 15 100th of a millimeter. so 0,15mm

  • @Fieldoftheatres
    @Fieldoftheatres Před 4 lety

    Number 1000 in the likes. Satisfying

  • @mlfb01ag
    @mlfb01ag Před 3 lety +3

    According with the professor in the video linked below, the deflection is due to the Magnus effect, wich is a particular case of the third Newton's Law of Dynamics, not to the Bernoulli Principle. And some videos overtly say that Bernoulli has nothing to do with that.
    czcams.com/video/23f1jvGUWJs/video.html
    Same professor on the role of seams on balls:
    czcams.com/video/t-3jnOIJg4k/video.html

  • @Scrap-Bran
    @Scrap-Bran Před 2 lety +1

    make a suit with golf ball texture

  • @MrPerito777
    @MrPerito777 Před 2 lety +1

    I wonder if that can be done to a cannonball just for fun 🤔 lol

  • @sassyblondel
    @sassyblondel Před 7 lety +5

    Dimples work but not for the stated reason. The spinning dimples feed air into the low-pressure zone behind the traveling ball. This puts a flow into the low-pressure zone allowing it to flow away in a stable cone shape, streamlining the ball.

    • @udayrallabhandi3345
      @udayrallabhandi3345 Před 7 lety +5

      sassyblondel "Feed air into the low pressure zone". Is that your way of saying the dimples delays boundary layer separation due to better transport of bulk momentum in turbulent boundary layers compared to laminar? Because I don't believe spin has to do with this effect.

    • @rightyourwrong
      @rightyourwrong Před 7 lety +3

      yep. only thing spin affects is lift. backspin=more lift upward (magnus effect/kutta-joukowski). topspin=downward lift (same physics just opposite direction). looks like sassyblondel went to purdue or something for aerospace engineering LOL

    • @rsteeb
      @rsteeb Před 4 lety +1

      @@rightyourwrong Magnus (in cooperation with Newton), NOT "Bernouli". Thank you.

    • @Riddickforyou
      @Riddickforyou Před 3 lety

      @@rsteeb Exactly! Bernouli's principle is for inviscid flow, which would be an ok approximation for motion through air but only a low velocity....the golf ball travels at high velocity and there is significant viscous effects (aka Newton's Law of viscosity), so one can't apply Bernouli's principle.

  • @ohdee970
    @ohdee970 Před 3 lety

    I usually take pictures of golf balls I buy as it's probably the last time I'm going to see it...

  • @eranronen573
    @eranronen573 Před měsícem

    This still does not explain it in depth, its cool surface level stuff(no pun intended), but seeing more of the actuall physics and math would've been cool

  • @marcopohl4875
    @marcopohl4875 Před 3 lety

    would that work on a plane too?

    • @narwhalguy3829
      @narwhalguy3829 Před rokem

      it works on cars, it was tested on mythbusters and the dimpled car saved 14% more fuel than the undimpled car when going the same distance

  • @tx2sturgis
    @tx2sturgis Před 2 lety

    So, what do you do all day?
    I put golf balls in a machine and press a button.
    Anything else?
    What else is there to do? I put golf balls in a machine and press a button.

  • @ahnafrnoufal3510
    @ahnafrnoufal3510 Před 3 lety

    2:10 , 2:54

  • @cledesma135
    @cledesma135 Před 5 lety +7

    These nerds make it happen.

  • @aargomemnon
    @aargomemnon Před 3 lety

    Why can't we have this tech in bullets and disc golf

  • @inertiaking1
    @inertiaking1 Před 3 lety

    So that's why rival darts have dimples.

  • @pb9832
    @pb9832 Před 5 lety +5

    So why aren't airplanes dimple?

    • @soraaoixxthebluesky
      @soraaoixxthebluesky Před 5 lety +1

      p b Airplane aren’t spinning object like a golf ball or tyres and also its not a sphere ball instead airplane utilise a tear drop aero style design and this pretty much reduce or eliminate the aerodynamic hole and reduce the chance of flow separation which induce the low pressure region at back end of the system.

    • @beernpizzalover9035
      @beernpizzalover9035 Před 4 lety +1

      p b A lot of aircraft wings do utilize vortex generators to accomplish essentially the same thing.

  • @neil5307
    @neil5307 Před 4 lety

    Really I don't need mindless muzac on my videos. Its annoying

  • @mareksumguy1887
    @mareksumguy1887 Před 6 lety +4

    Golf... what a joke.

    • @anthonyflood2283
      @anthonyflood2283 Před 6 lety

      Marek Sumguy worst sport ever

    • @theenforcersimonballs2941
      @theenforcersimonballs2941 Před 6 lety +2

      But here you are watching vids about it.P.S Its always people who can't play the Game don't like it,Wasters.

    • @fredschwarz3334
      @fredschwarz3334 Před 6 lety

      Marek_Sumgay

    • @russoformoso
      @russoformoso Před 5 lety

      As a golf player, the real challenge is to keep your cool when your shot was really bad. I don’t know how this reply contributed to your comment but yeah.

    • @dougsholly9323
      @dougsholly9323 Před 4 lety +2

      @@fredschwarz3334 Marek Sumguy is one of those people that downvotes puppy videos. He is just an ass because he can be.

  • @sebastiaanbulthuis577
    @sebastiaanbulthuis577 Před 5 lety

    Gay!🤯