SwitchBot has reached out and provided an additional 5% coupon code (XMS10KUP) that can be used on Amazon or the SwitchBot Website: AmazonUS: amzn.to/44Y3QzH AmazonUK: amzn.to/4dQdSal They have also provided the following feedback: _"We are delighted to hear your positive comments on our innovative design, value for money, and superior mopping performance. We appreciate your constructive feedback regarding navigation and obstacle avoidance. Specifically, we're focusing on improving obstacle avoidance accuracy and ensuring effective lifting of the mop on high-pile carpets to prevent wet marks. Additionally, we're exploring options for local network control without an internet connection. Regarding the 3/8” tee fittings you mentioned, we've started optimizing these parts to better match U.S. water pipe standards. We've made adjustments to both size and color, as shown in the images below. We've also improved the gaskets for a better fit. These enhancements are designed to make our fittings more compatible with U.S. water pipes."_
I tend to agree. Everything is getting more expensive these days, but I remember when the first $999 robot came out from iRobot and people were like "no thanks", now the flagships are double that!
I don't know I feel like any company they do small iteration. I wish they would try to do the best once and then optimise the cost. They could add heater, steam, and other system to clean where the robot can't go yet but they will love all this in 10 to 20 year at this rate
Having the SwitchBot S10 I have to say that the support team is great. The product is new and has a lot of bugs, but in a short period they addressed almost everything and they will improve the obstacle avoiding in the future. I also had a problem with the black carpet and they emailed me that an update is on the way for this issue. I really think that the robot is extremely good for the price, considering all the things that the robot and stations do. I also recommend them to make different brushes and mop roller (besides the ones that come with the robot already) that work best in different scenarios.
This has been my experience with pretty much all other switchbot products I got until now... they release it and they're great but a bit of a mess, then they fix them quite quickly. Oh also unsure about other places but in Italy the S10 has ALWAYS had a 300€ discount on amazon so it's price is basically 800€ (either a discount or a coupon or something. Pretty common for a lot of switchbot products)
I love my Roborock Q Revo. As we don't have pets and keep it pretty tidy I think it has a great price to performance ratio. I do have to empty and fill up water about twice a week, so if they could come out with a different auto dock that fits underneath standard kitchen benches (standard height and 60 cm width) with some sort of auto open/close, that would be awesome!
I have loved your reviews and a couple years ago. Used your review to buy my Dreams L10s. I liked it so much I bought a second one for my second floor for those who want full automation with an older unit like the L10s, I just installed a Coffee machine auto refill float for $20 on Amazon and a small condenser pump with a one-way valve that I put in the waist tank. I set them in my laundry room next to my washer and dryer because I have exposed water supply and it’s easy to plop the flexible tube in the drain next to the drain for my washing machine. Now my L10s is fully automated. I get the great performance of this machine with the convenience of automation and I don’t have to worry about it being in the location that is seen by pretty much anyone else. Happy to share photos and specifics if you’re curious. The bottom floor of my house also has a single step down where I built a 3 foot long ramp that the vacuum will use to climb to the second level. The trick to getting this to work is to put aluminum foil on the ramp to reflect the Leir and guidance lasers so they don’t see it as a wall. Thanks again for your videos and scientific method in your reviews. They are very helpful.
I always put in a small amount of vinegar after emptying dirty tank, never smells and shouldn't harm anything since it's not going through tube's or pumps
I think Roborock could easily come out with a sister unit for the dock (for the q revo at least) that sits right beside the other dock and comes with new clean and dirty water tanks. The new tanks could have pipe adapters and the sister unit would have the fill valve and pump.
8:27 I love the innovations on those robots. Each year there's another feature or revisited concept that makes them better. It's like a fantastic canvas for ingenuity.
Thanks. This is very helpful info about the S10. Question: so the station is powered by the vacuum. Does that mean the vacuum charges elsewhere? I wish I weren’t confused by this. The bathroom where I can install this has no outlet so it’s a concern. I’m glad to know they’ve added Matter support, though limited by that new standard’s… newness. Since the S10 can be gotten for $900 (I was able to stack two offers) I took a chance. It arrives next week and I won’t open it until I feel comfortable enough about reviews. Yours is the most useful one so far (liked and subscribed!).
Yes, the dust emptying base is also the charging base. That means it can be installed virtually anywhere and doesn't need to be around a water/drain supply.
That fake pet poo looked way too real... the narwal just dragging it around almost made me gag lol I just got the switchbot yesterday and haven't unboxed yet.. dreading the amount of time and adjustments I'll need to finish it. Annoyingly I don't have a good spot either for the water refilling station I'm glad that it did good on the mopping because that is the main issue in my house.. periods of heavy dust (dry earth particles) getting in the house I also got it during the kickstarter for around $800 and currently using S6maxV. I'll have them each on 1 floor. Btw shipping the maxV was horrendously expensive to my country.. kickstarter shipping was very reasonable so I guess it's an upgrade
Interesting that the switchbot auto empty attachment uses a pump at all, I’d assume the just use the vacuum battery to operate a valve and just let the house water pressure push the dirty water out.
Always get the feeling that industry doesn't do a lot of catering to the home automation subset of users. Local control is a big deal. Ethernet connectivity would be nice to as an option.
Narwal released a firmware update on 6/3/24 to help with the division of rooms. My Freo X Plus wasn’t able to divide some rooms, but that was fixed on mine already.
Just in time, in in the market for a new robot vacuum, I mean for 1300 dollars sounds like a great deal since I don't have carpets and would love to get the house vacuumed daily when i leave for work.
as usual, a very detailed and scientific test, love it thank your for such precision and help to better understand which products do best what we expect them to do 😊
Thanks for all the incredible work you do and the time you put into reviews. These vacuum+mop solutions look great, but it's disappointing to hear that all of them require internet connections to work :( Guess I won't be purchasing any time soon.
I'd say for most people the Dreametech L10S Ultra at $650-700 is the perfect mix of performance, premium features, and price: amzn.to/4bNegVa If you want the best mopping possible and your carpets are medium or low pile the Eufy S1 Pro is the best mopper on the market, officially launches June 19th. Switchbot S10 is a close second in mopping performance, but isn't as polished when it comes to app experience and navigation.
How tall is the switchbox water/waste portal? Im in the process of a complete kitchen remodel and was thinking id put it completely under my sink cabinet
That’s probably the best place for most people depending which level it’s on. A bathroom seems like it might be too small with high potential of getting trapped and in a lot of kitchens it’d just get in the way.
crazy testing. this type of testing likely not far from R&D of these companies.💪💪 watching this I realized that these bots not there yet for households with kids/pets as they leave uncertainty which could leave the user with troubleshooting tasks and broken expensive machines. even a minimalist home with adults can also do without robots because you can glide through the floors with speed and cleaner job than these tiny robots (just listen to a podcast or music at the same to make it less of time waste). I'd be interested with more powerful bots in the future where carpet and floor performance close to standalone cordless.
Let me know when one has a grinding feature(built in garbage disposal) to put all the waste into the drain, making it absolutely hands-free and never needing a bag replacement.
As great as both the S8 and switch bot were, you still need to clean / change out the mopping pad/rollier weekly. If you don’t, it’ll stink of mildew. This smell will transfer to the floor and be unpleasant. Until it’s a 0 touch solution, I’ll stick with my S7 ultra. I change the water / pad / base filter whenever the base is out of water. This keeps everything fresh and smelling decent. Takes about 10 minutes once or twice a week, depending on how many times I have the robot mop.
You don't need to change out the pads/rollers weekly, probably only once every 1-3 months. The switchbot specifically is extremely effective at cleaning its own mop and then completes a 3 hour heated dry after each mopping session.
Does anyone know if the Switchbot can go up/down a ramp? I have a single step between some of my main rooms. I can build a small wooden ramp for it to travel on, but i dont want it to get stuck when it needs to refill water from the "lower level" while on the "upper level".
The easiest way to do that is to put a "no go" zone on the edge of your ramp, it will make the vacuum travel up the ramp smoothly. I did it at a friend's house with a Dreametech and it worked great.
That was the schedule we were on as well. I'm interested to see how long I can go without touching the vacuum now that the auto empty system is up and running. 2 months?
I just returned my switchbot s10 after purchasing it on prime day. The concept is great, but outside of the physical mopping functionality, nothing about it is good. The software is really buggy and it has perhaps the worst obstacle avoidance of any robot I've used in the past 5 years. Even after setting it to the most conservative navigation mode, it continued to run off stairs, knock over my nightstand, and get tangled in every cord it came across. It popped its own front wheel off several times and managed to push its own water station across the bathroom. It had abysmal battery life, and I could never get it to complete a run of my whole house due to its buggy software. It would run low on battery, throw an error, and then dock for several hours to charge. If it managed to make it through 3 charge cycles without getting stuck somewhere, only then would it decide to begin mopping. But the mopping would never complete since the robot would randomly decide to go dry itself for 4 hours in the middle of a run. It wasn't smart enough to know that drying should only be done at the end. Since I could never get it to complete a whole house run without some catastrophic error (that it could not resume from!), I tried setting multiple staggered per-room schedules throughout the day. But that didn't work either, since runs would often take 2-3x longer than expected and prevent other scheduled jobs from ever starting. Overall, it seems to do a great job of mopping a small square room. But it completely fails once you try to use it in a large house. The short time I owned this robot really drove him the value of the mature firmware and time-tested navigation code that come with more established brands, something I didn't fully appreciate until now.
The issue with bagless is that you need to be diligent about cleaning and replacing the HEPA filter, otherwise it will lose suction and clog. The bags act as their own HEPA filter.
Great video, I am trying to decide between Eufy S1 Pro or Switchbot s10. Right now s10 is $400 off so effectively $800 and Eufy S1 Pro is about $250 off so $1249. I have more hardwood than carpet on my first floor (only one room has carpet). Which one would you recommend? Is the Eufy worth the extra $449 ?
It's all about whether you have a good location for the switchbot refill station and the DIY ability to install it. If yes, go for the switchbot, if no get the eufy.
Thanks so much for the quick reply and help I really appreciate it! I can definitely dyi the install and I have a good spot under the kitchen sink cabinet. So I just ordered the switchbot with your recommendation! Thanks again!
Great reviews as always, though I guess you had to leave that they need to connect to the mothership till the end because half the audience would reject the lot of them immediately and switch off.
Sadly the reason I have to save the privacy stuff for last is that it generally has poor audience retention (people skip over that part of the video or click away). It's important to me so I will continue to cover it, but I think a lot of people do not care.
Really feeling dismayed by my recent experience with our Robovac by Eufy. 1. It started requiring me to reset it every time it ran because of a battery error. 2. After a while of that I just stopped running it and after a while it started showing up in my Pihole logs hitting some amazon address over and over and over an over, getting blocked every time, but it was quadrupling the number of blocks of any other device on my network. So I just shut it off. After about a year and a half of owning it, where about 1/3 of the time I was dealing with the battery error...I just don't want to deal with them anymore. I feel like it should at least last 3-5 years. The only Eufy product I still have in use is a smartlock on a door we almost never use...just to have easy access without any key. Wanting to replace that too just to get rid of Eufy entirely.
Sounds like it was trying to contact AWS to check for updates. Unfortunately these are not devices that are easily switched to local only control, and blocking them from the internet will result in loss of functionality or even permanent damage.
Thanks for the comparison video, I'm considering three different robot vacs at the moment. One choice is Roborock S8 Max V Ultra, but from your graphs the S7 Max V Ultra seems a better/smarter choice. Do you agree? Is there much difference? Also, I hadn't considered the Eufy S1 Pro until you spoke of the Best Mopping feature in comments. Thanks
Eufy S1 Pro is the best mop on the market, followed by the Switchbot S10. S7 MaxV Ultra had a great vacuuming system, but everything else about the S8 is better.
@@TheHookUp Thanks for your response. I have 50% tile and 50% low carpet. If Eufy S 1 Pro also has a good vacuum that will most likely be my choice. Thanks
I'm skeptical that the automatic drains don't get clogged in weeks. I have a mop/vacuum device and I had to prefilter the debris out before i put it in the drain. because the debris was clogging the drain.
I think your narwal is broken.... I bought the narwal not too long ago and your results don't make sense at all.... on my narwal FreoX Ultra he knows very well how to avoid things on the floor. And its moping is simply excellent, I think maybe you should check if there is a version update, or even try to take advantage of a warranty with the company. Because it really doesn't make sense and all the other reviews and other customers on reddit are saying completely different things than what you are saying here.
The FreoX Ultra in this video was a completely separate unit from my last video. That means that 2 different units over dozens of tests performed nearly identically. I'm glad you're happy with it, but my testing is valid. Please point me to the other reviews that disagree with my findings.
Do you think the Dreame L10s Pro Ultra Heat will notably better than the Ultra you tested in this video. Seems like hot water would be worthwhile but not sure.
I thumbed up this video for the effort he put into it and for making the case that one should skip these crazy inventions. Not ready for prime time. Examples: 1. The toilet install is definitely convenient, but putting the base right outside and blocking the shower box door? Too much of a convenience price to pay. 2. Installing the base right under the kitchen sink, but outside the cabinet, sticking out like that... an accident begging to happen. Either you'll kick it and destroy the base, or you'll fall and break a hip. 3. The mop... no words to describe the fail. Just hand mop your floor. Get one of those Swiffer Wetjets. It's not that hard.
I was mostly showing those locations to help people get an idea of where they could put them. In actuality the switchbot base fits under my dishwasher flush with the kickplate. In the case of the bathroom, I wouldn't put it there just because I think it's weird for guests (and that's our one downstairs bathroom), but my floorplan called for that shower to be a closet initially, so it would have fit fine in that nook. As for the mopping, roller mops are the future and the Eufy S1 Pro and Switchbot S10 are in a completely different league.
Hi, do you have any idea/tested if Switchbot S10 can also mop on a second floor/second map or it is limited to vacuum only? There are some rumours related to this, but I would like to be certain before ordering. Thank you in advance. Keep up the (very) good job you're doing 🙂
Rob, I know this is waaaay off topic, but have you insiders gotten any word on when the Hisens C2 series projectors and the XGIMI Horozon Max will be coming to market. Looking forward to those reviews.
I'm definitely not in the Hisense inner circle, I heard about the C2 at the same time that you did. I don't think XGIMI has a solid launch date for the MAX yet.
Not a separate video, no. You can see the X10 in a few of the shots in this video, but there wouldn't be much of a point to making a video other than to say "it's not as good as the Dreametech L10S Ultra", which costs the same amount if not less.
I sadly had to stop using my robot after getting a second cat who has occasional accidents. I'd love to get one with camera based avoidance, but internet connected cameras in my house are a strict no-go. Maybe someday... 😢
Yes… unfortunately! 😭 It says it in their site.. but doesn’t give any option to buy! I’m already having a huge trouble as neither the x30/40 are available in the UK to buy it either. So need to buy it outside and get it shipped to me into the UK..
I use a cotton mop and an old bucket so don't have to worry about mapping my rooms, cleaning drain filters, bags, sorting chargers, getting notifications that the machine is in distress, no software updates, risk of water leaks or running over dog poo or dismantling the machine to clean it. And the money I save I can spend on Me. My sweeper is a salvaged G-Tech and it works better than a Dyson.
@@TheHookUp Interesting and comprehensive review of devices for lazy people who should manage their house before their phone. What is so hard about moping a floor ?. These machines will know doubt be landfill in a short time along with the water damaged materials from DIY plumbing. I appreciate your very prompt comment. Well done on your channel.
Still using it, still works, still freaks out, calls me, and sends 2 push notifications anytime I top off my pool using the garden hose (as it should).
Generally speaking louder vacuums have better suction and carpet pickup performance. You can adjust the suction power in the app to make it quieter but that will obviously cause worse pickup peformance.
I think the issue might be trying to balance a tangle resistant brush with one that can apply enough force to agitate high pile carpet properly. I recently tried switching my Dreametech L10S ultra from the rubber brush to their new TriCut brush and had significantly worse vacuuming performance (~15% decrease in my pickup tests).
Yes. At this point I've tested 3 S8's (Pro, MaxV Ultra, MaxV Auto Refill) and they are all consistent. I have also repeated the tests with my S7 MaxV many times. I suppose it's possible I have an above average S7, but it's consistent.
It's dim, has no built in battery, a loud fan, and a large power brick. If your budget is $1300 there are WAY better options depending on your use case.
@@TheHookUp what i liked was the design and small form factor and the picture quality looks nice, i gather you wont do a full review yet? Which one would you recommend in the 1300 range as of today? Thanks a lot brother!
@@TheHookUp thank you for warning me brother! I got the JMGO N1 ultra and I am very happy with it! Bummer that a new one is releasing soon.. but i am happy with my purchase! Projecting on wall so i dont see any speckle!
SwitchBot has reached out and provided an additional 5% coupon code (XMS10KUP) that can be used on Amazon or the SwitchBot Website:
AmazonUS: amzn.to/44Y3QzH
AmazonUK: amzn.to/4dQdSal
They have also provided the following feedback:
_"We are delighted to hear your positive comments on our innovative design, value for money, and superior mopping performance.
We appreciate your constructive feedback regarding navigation and obstacle avoidance. Specifically, we're focusing on improving obstacle avoidance accuracy and ensuring effective lifting of the mop on high-pile carpets to prevent wet marks. Additionally, we're exploring options for local network control without an internet connection.
Regarding the 3/8” tee fittings you mentioned, we've started optimizing these parts to better match U.S. water pipe standards. We've made adjustments to both size and color, as shown in the images below. We've also improved the gaskets for a better fit. These enhancements are designed to make our fittings more compatible with U.S. water pipes."_
Still the best most comprehensive reviews.. Miss your smart home content
Anyone else stunned how much these devices are getting? Crazy!
I tend to agree. Everything is getting more expensive these days, but I remember when the first $999 robot came out from iRobot and people were like "no thanks", now the flagships are double that!
Bidenomics baby
They just keep getting better and better but with that the cost does increase
I don't know I feel like any company they do small iteration. I wish they would try to do the best once and then optimise the cost. They could add heater, steam, and other system to clean where the robot can't go yet but they will love all this in 10 to 20 year at this rate
@@ystebadvonschlegel3295I know this might be a joke, but this has literally nothing to do with Biden considering that these are priced worldwide
Having the SwitchBot S10 I have to say that the support team is great. The product is new and has a lot of bugs, but in a short period they addressed almost everything and they will improve the obstacle avoiding in the future. I also had a problem with the black carpet and they emailed me that an update is on the way for this issue.
I really think that the robot is extremely good for the price, considering all the things that the robot and stations do.
I also recommend them to make different brushes and mop roller (besides the ones that come with the robot already) that work best in different scenarios.
I agree, the price is definitely right.
This has been my experience with pretty much all other switchbot products I got until now... they release it and they're great but a bit of a mess, then they fix them quite quickly. Oh also unsure about other places but in Italy the S10 has ALWAYS had a 300€ discount on amazon so it's price is basically 800€ (either a discount or a coupon or something. Pretty common for a lot of switchbot products)
You’re a boss for plumbing in all three! That’s a lot of work
Actually ended up plumbing in 4 times. I've got the S8 hooked up to my washing machine supply right now, working great!
I love my Roborock Q Revo. As we don't have pets and keep it pretty tidy I think it has a great price to performance ratio. I do have to empty and fill up water about twice a week, so if they could come out with a different auto dock that fits underneath standard kitchen benches (standard height and 60 cm width) with some sort of auto open/close, that would be awesome!
Good on switchbot! Genuinely surprised their first gen seems pretty good already, especially for mopping
They definitely went outside the box, in a good way.
I have loved your reviews and a couple years ago. Used your review to buy my Dreams L10s. I liked it so much I bought a second one for my second floor for those who want full automation with an older unit like the L10s, I just installed a Coffee machine auto refill float for $20 on Amazon and a small condenser pump with a one-way valve that I put in the waist tank. I set them in my laundry room next to my washer and dryer because I have exposed water supply and it’s easy to plop the flexible tube in the drain next to the drain for my washing machine. Now my L10s is fully automated. I get the great performance of this machine with the convenience of automation and I don’t have to worry about it being in the location that is seen by pretty much anyone else. Happy to share photos and specifics if you’re curious.
The bottom floor of my house also has a single step down where I built a 3 foot long ramp that the vacuum will use to climb to the second level. The trick to getting this to work is to put aluminum foil on the ramp to reflect the Leir and guidance lasers so they don’t see it as a wall.
Thanks again for your videos and scientific method in your reviews. They are very helpful.
I always put in a small amount of vinegar after emptying dirty tank, never smells and shouldn't harm anything since it's not going through tube's or pumps
That's not a bad plan. I've also found that the robots with automatic washing detergent smell significantly less than those that just use hot water.
I also use vinegar, works great.
Vinegar can also help fight hard water calcifying around
Supposedly the Eufy S1 Pro waste water doesn't smell as bad because it produces ozone for the cleaning water.
I think Roborock could easily come out with a sister unit for the dock (for the q revo at least) that sits right beside the other dock and comes with new clean and dirty water tanks. The new tanks could have pipe adapters and the sister unit would have the fill valve and pump.
These robotic vacuum cleaner can teach the new EVs how to selfplug-in. 😊😊😊😊😊
Happy days. 😊😊😊😊😊
So cute when the kids teach the adults 🥰
8:27 I love the innovations on those robots. Each year there's another feature or revisited concept that makes them better. It's like a fantastic canvas for ingenuity.
Thanks. This is very helpful info about the S10.
Question: so the station is powered by the vacuum. Does that mean the vacuum charges elsewhere? I wish I weren’t confused by this. The bathroom where I can install this has no outlet so it’s a concern.
I’m glad to know they’ve added Matter support, though limited by that new standard’s… newness.
Since the S10 can be gotten for $900 (I was able to stack two offers) I took a chance. It arrives next week and I won’t open it until I feel comfortable enough about reviews. Yours is the most useful one so far (liked and subscribed!).
Yes, the dust emptying base is also the charging base. That means it can be installed virtually anywhere and doesn't need to be around a water/drain supply.
@@TheHookUp Thanks! All the more compelling. So the vacuum itself charges elsewhere. Intriguing.
Mate you are a legend. Because of you I got myself a groview projector and now here to select a robot vacuum. I love your reviews.
Switch bot separating the dust bin and the refill station is genius. I expect that will be copied.
That fake pet poo looked way too real... the narwal just dragging it around almost made me gag lol
I just got the switchbot yesterday and haven't unboxed yet.. dreading the amount of time and adjustments I'll need to finish it. Annoyingly I don't have a good spot either for the water refilling station
I'm glad that it did good on the mopping because that is the main issue in my house.. periods of heavy dust (dry earth particles) getting in the house
I also got it during the kickstarter for around $800 and currently using S6maxV. I'll have them each on 1 floor. Btw shipping the maxV was horrendously expensive to my country.. kickstarter shipping was very reasonable so I guess it's an upgrade
I think you'll be happy with it, it's a good robot, especially for $800.
@@TheHookUp Btw I just saw they got a decent promotion right now. $999 ( -$200. lasts until May 30th)
Interesting that the switchbot auto empty attachment uses a pump at all, I’d assume the just use the vacuum battery to operate a valve and just let the house water pressure push the dirty water out.
That was a seriously professional review. Well done
I just purchased the Roborock S8 MaxV brand new for $990 🙂. Can't wait to put it to the test!
Always get the feeling that industry doesn't do a lot of catering to the home automation subset of users. Local control is a big deal. Ethernet connectivity would be nice to as an option.
Narwal released a firmware update on 6/3/24 to help with the division of rooms. My Freo X Plus wasn’t able to divide some rooms, but that was fixed on mine already.
Nice, I'll check it out.
Just in time, in in the market for a new robot vacuum, I mean for 1300 dollars sounds like a great deal since I don't have carpets and would love to get the house vacuumed daily when i leave for work.
I love Your reviews and pation for details :)
The roborock is $700 off right now for their 10th anniversary. The sale price is $1200 so I had to purchase it
Yep, just posted that to my community page. A great deal!
Have you done or thought about doing a test on the cordless upright wet/dry combos? Like the dreametechs, tineco, hoover, bissell.
as usual, a very detailed and scientific test, love it
thank your for such precision and help to better understand which products do best what we expect them to do 😊
Hey, Can you do a review of battery backups for POE security camera systems?
Narwhal needs to master a D-shape design with auto bin empty before I can consider their prices
Thanks for all the incredible work you do and the time you put into reviews.
These vacuum+mop solutions look great, but it's disappointing to hear that all of them require internet connections to work :( Guess I won't be purchasing any time soon.
Switchbot has mentioned that they are looking into an offline solution, but it's not out yet.
@@TheHookUp I'll be keeping an eye out for that. Thanks!
With the amount of money these costs, which one would you buy from all the ones you've tested to date?
I'd say for most people the Dreametech L10S Ultra at $650-700 is the perfect mix of performance, premium features, and price: amzn.to/4bNegVa
If you want the best mopping possible and your carpets are medium or low pile the Eufy S1 Pro is the best mopper on the market, officially launches June 19th. Switchbot S10 is a close second in mopping performance, but isn't as polished when it comes to app experience and navigation.
How tall is the switchbox water/waste portal? Im in the process of a complete kitchen remodel and was thinking id put it completely under my sink cabinet
Exactly 100mm tall and 150mm deep. I was actually able to squeeze it under my dishwasher toe kick to make it completely out of sight.
I wish we had a good place to install one of these docks, we change the water at least once a week and wow is it stinky
I installed the S8 MaxV in my laundry room using the water supply and drain from the washing machine. Works great.
That’s probably the best place for most people depending which level it’s on. A bathroom seems like it might be too small with high potential of getting trapped and in a lot of kitchens it’d just get in the way.
@@TheHookUp Thanks for sharing, I hadn't thought of hooking into the washing machine lines. Might be my best and ideal location. Great tip.
crazy testing. this type of testing likely not far from R&D of these companies.💪💪 watching this I realized that these bots not there yet for households with kids/pets as they leave uncertainty which could leave the user with troubleshooting tasks and broken expensive machines. even a minimalist home with adults can also do without robots because you can glide through the floors with speed and cleaner job than these tiny robots (just listen to a podcast or music at the same to make it less of time waste).
I'd be interested with more powerful bots in the future where carpet and floor performance close to standalone cordless.
Roborock should implement the switchbod mob. That would be closer to perfekt
I think roller mops are the future, 100%.
I’ve never had a robot vac that could actually clean entire floor. It ok for intermittent sweeping. I’d never trust a robovac to mop my hardwoods
I think you'd be surprised how well the Eufy S1 Pro and Switchbot S10 mop, it's pretty incredible.
Let me know when one has a grinding feature(built in garbage disposal) to put all the waste into the drain, making it absolutely hands-free and never needing a bag replacement.
As great as both the S8 and switch bot were, you still need to clean / change out the mopping pad/rollier weekly. If you don’t, it’ll stink of mildew. This smell will transfer to the floor and be unpleasant.
Until it’s a 0 touch solution, I’ll stick with my S7 ultra. I change the water / pad / base filter whenever the base is out of water. This keeps everything fresh and smelling decent. Takes about 10 minutes once or twice a week, depending on how many times I have the robot mop.
You don't need to change out the pads/rollers weekly, probably only once every 1-3 months. The switchbot specifically is extremely effective at cleaning its own mop and then completes a 3 hour heated dry after each mopping session.
Does anyone know if the Switchbot can go up/down a ramp? I have a single step between some of my main rooms. I can build a small wooden ramp for it to travel on, but i dont want it to get stuck when it needs to refill water from the "lower level" while on the "upper level".
The easiest way to do that is to put a "no go" zone on the edge of your ramp, it will make the vacuum travel up the ramp smoothly. I did it at a friend's house with a Dreametech and it worked great.
Once a week I take my dirty mop water outside to the sewer drain in the street. That seems fine to me.
That was the schedule we were on as well. I'm interested to see how long I can go without touching the vacuum now that the auto empty system is up and running. 2 months?
I just returned my switchbot s10 after purchasing it on prime day. The concept is great, but outside of the physical mopping functionality, nothing about it is good. The software is really buggy and it has perhaps the worst obstacle avoidance of any robot I've used in the past 5 years. Even after setting it to the most conservative navigation mode, it continued to run off stairs, knock over my nightstand, and get tangled in every cord it came across. It popped its own front wheel off several times and managed to push its own water station across the bathroom.
It had abysmal battery life, and I could never get it to complete a run of my whole house due to its buggy software. It would run low on battery, throw an error, and then dock for several hours to charge. If it managed to make it through 3 charge cycles without getting stuck somewhere, only then would it decide to begin mopping. But the mopping would never complete since the robot would randomly decide to go dry itself for 4 hours in the middle of a run. It wasn't smart enough to know that drying should only be done at the end.
Since I could never get it to complete a whole house run without some catastrophic error (that it could not resume from!), I tried setting multiple staggered per-room schedules throughout the day. But that didn't work either, since runs would often take 2-3x longer than expected and prevent other scheduled jobs from ever starting.
Overall, it seems to do a great job of mopping a small square room. But it completely fails once you try to use it in a large house. The short time I owned this robot really drove him the value of the mature firmware and time-tested navigation code that come with more established brands, something I didn't fully appreciate until now.
Id only get a robot with the switchbot style base stations but ill be waiting for a gen 2
I think I’ll try retrofitting my existing Roborock S8 ultra with automatic water filler and water removal
Thanks Rob.
best review EVER💪
I'm waiting for the bagless version.
The issue with bagless is that you need to be diligent about cleaning and replacing the HEPA filter, otherwise it will lose suction and clog. The bags act as their own HEPA filter.
I see but there are washable HEPA filters, my normal vacuum cleaner has one and it doesn't need to be replaced
Yes, I said "cleaning and replacing" but most of the time it will just be cleaning.
Great video, I am trying to decide between Eufy S1 Pro or Switchbot s10. Right now s10 is $400 off so effectively $800 and Eufy S1 Pro is about $250 off so $1249. I have more hardwood than carpet on my first floor (only one room has carpet). Which one would you recommend? Is the Eufy worth the extra $449 ?
It's all about whether you have a good location for the switchbot refill station and the DIY ability to install it. If yes, go for the switchbot, if no get the eufy.
Thanks so much for the quick reply and help I really appreciate it! I can definitely dyi the install and I have a good spot under the kitchen sink cabinet. So I just ordered the switchbot with your recommendation! Thanks again!
Great reviews as always, though I guess you had to leave that they need to connect to the mothership till the end because half the audience would reject the lot of them immediately and switch off.
Sadly the reason I have to save the privacy stuff for last is that it generally has poor audience retention (people skip over that part of the video or click away). It's important to me so I will continue to cover it, but I think a lot of people do not care.
@@TheHookUp Thanks for the behind the scenes perspective and thanks for still including those details.
I have an s7 maxv ultra. It specifically has issues recognizing chords and cables hanging down from walls- like if you have a dangling phone charger.
MaxV ultra is a really good cleaner, but you're right it doesn't have the object recognition chops that the S8 has.
@@TheHookUpit’s a bummer. I wish they would update its algorithm periodically but I haven’t seen that.
@chrisperrywv I suspect the onboard processor on the s7 may be underpowered compared to the s8.
@@TheHookUp I’m sure that’s the reason they’d give! Haha. But also definitely possible. Thanks for the hard work BTW!
Really feeling dismayed by my recent experience with our Robovac by Eufy. 1. It started requiring me to reset it every time it ran because of a battery error. 2. After a while of that I just stopped running it and after a while it started showing up in my Pihole logs hitting some amazon address over and over and over an over, getting blocked every time, but it was quadrupling the number of blocks of any other device on my network. So I just shut it off.
After about a year and a half of owning it, where about 1/3 of the time I was dealing with the battery error...I just don't want to deal with them anymore. I feel like it should at least last 3-5 years. The only Eufy product I still have in use is a smartlock on a door we almost never use...just to have easy access without any key. Wanting to replace that too just to get rid of Eufy entirely.
Sounds like it was trying to contact AWS to check for updates. Unfortunately these are not devices that are easily switched to local only control, and blocking them from the internet will result in loss of functionality or even permanent damage.
Thanks for the comparison video, I'm considering three different robot vacs at the moment. One choice is Roborock S8 Max V Ultra, but from your graphs the S7 Max V Ultra seems a better/smarter choice. Do you agree? Is there much difference? Also, I hadn't considered the Eufy S1 Pro until you spoke of the Best Mopping feature in comments. Thanks
Eufy S1 Pro is the best mop on the market, followed by the Switchbot S10. S7 MaxV Ultra had a great vacuuming system, but everything else about the S8 is better.
@@TheHookUp Thanks for your response. I have 50% tile and 50% low carpet. If Eufy S 1 Pro also has a good vacuum that will most likely be my choice. Thanks
I'm skeptical that the automatic drains don't get clogged in weeks. I have a mop/vacuum device and I had to prefilter the debris out before i put it in the drain. because the debris was clogging the drain.
We’ll see.
I think your narwal is broken.... I bought the narwal not too long ago and your results don't make sense at all.... on my narwal FreoX Ultra he knows very well how to avoid things on the floor.
And its moping is simply excellent, I think maybe you should check if there is a version update, or even try to take advantage of a warranty with the company. Because it really doesn't make sense and all the other reviews and other customers on reddit are saying completely different things than what you are saying here.
The FreoX Ultra in this video was a completely separate unit from my last video. That means that 2 different units over dozens of tests performed nearly identically. I'm glad you're happy with it, but my testing is valid.
Please point me to the other reviews that disagree with my findings.
I'm disappointed you don't have a Japanese bidet toilet seat. :)
I do, but only in the master bedroom :)
@@TheHookUp Oh same here! Guests can deal with the cold seats! hahaha
I 100% going to be buying a fancy pats robot vacuum before the end of the year.
Can you do a comparison of the new rollermop systems on the market? Eufy s1 pro, switchbot s10, eureka j20?
Do you think the Dreame L10s Pro Ultra Heat will notably better than the Ultra you tested in this video. Seems like hot water would be worthwhile but not sure.
Definitely not with the current $505 sale on the L10S, it's the clear pick.
I thumbed up this video for the effort he put into it and for making the case that one should skip these crazy inventions. Not ready for prime time.
Examples:
1. The toilet install is definitely convenient, but putting the base right outside and blocking the shower box door? Too much of a convenience price to pay.
2. Installing the base right under the kitchen sink, but outside the cabinet, sticking out like that... an accident begging to happen. Either you'll kick it and destroy the base, or you'll fall and break a hip.
3. The mop... no words to describe the fail. Just hand mop your floor. Get one of those Swiffer Wetjets. It's not that hard.
I was mostly showing those locations to help people get an idea of where they could put them. In actuality the switchbot base fits under my dishwasher flush with the kickplate. In the case of the bathroom, I wouldn't put it there just because I think it's weird for guests (and that's our one downstairs bathroom), but my floorplan called for that shower to be a closet initially, so it would have fit fine in that nook.
As for the mopping, roller mops are the future and the Eufy S1 Pro and Switchbot S10 are in a completely different league.
Hi, do you have any idea/tested if Switchbot S10 can also mop on a second floor/second map or it is limited to vacuum only? There are some rumours related to this, but I would like to be certain before ordering.
Thank you in advance. Keep up the (very) good job you're doing 🙂
The switchbot does have an onboard water tank that allows it to clean an area away from the mopping refill station.
Rob,
I know this is waaaay off topic, but have you insiders gotten any word on when the Hisens C2 series projectors and the XGIMI Horozon Max will be coming to market. Looking forward to those reviews.
I'm definitely not in the Hisense inner circle, I heard about the C2 at the same time that you did. I don't think XGIMI has a solid launch date for the MAX yet.
@@TheHookUp You're our insider. 👍Thanks again Dude!
Question about Roborock S8: is there a pump to pump the dirty water up if the bathroom drain pipe is 2 feet above the ground?
Yes. I'm currently using it with my laundry room drain which is about 3ft above the pump unit.
Great video. Will you still do a video on the eufy x10 pro omni by any chance?
Not a separate video, no. You can see the X10 in a few of the shots in this video, but there wouldn't be much of a point to making a video other than to say "it's not as good as the Dreametech L10S Ultra", which costs the same amount if not less.
I sadly had to stop using my robot after getting a second cat who has occasional accidents.
I'd love to get one with camera based avoidance, but internet connected cameras in my house are a strict no-go. Maybe someday... 😢
It's still in very early stages, but Matic vacuums might work out for you. Local based camera object avoidance.
@@TheHookUp I look forward to hearing more about them!
I wish you would do this type of review with the new Dreame X40 with auto drain station also.
To my knowledge the X40 drain system is not being offered outside of China.
Yes… unfortunately! 😭
It says it in their site.. but doesn’t give any option to buy! I’m already having a huge trouble as neither the x30/40 are available in the UK to buy it either.
So need to buy it outside and get it shipped to me into the UK..
@@TheHookUp It's available on EU Amazons
I am most concerned about reliability and maintenance. I can't consider an over $1,000 vacuum that doesn't have a ten-year warranty and great service.
Most cars don't even have such a long warranty
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For the price of these things, I'll just stick with my Swiffer Wetjet 😅
I use a cotton mop and an old bucket so don't have to worry about mapping my rooms, cleaning drain filters, bags, sorting chargers, getting notifications that the machine is in distress, no software updates, risk of water leaks or running over dog poo or dismantling the machine to clean it. And the money I save I can spend on Me. My sweeper is a salvaged G-Tech and it works better than a Dyson.
Yep, that's always the best option. But ask the average person when the last time they mopped their floors and the answers will scare you.
@@TheHookUp Interesting and comprehensive review of devices for lazy people who should manage their house before their phone. What is so hard about moping a floor ?.
These machines will know doubt be landfill in a short time along with the water damaged materials from DIY plumbing.
I appreciate your very prompt comment. Well done on your channel.
Judge not, everyone is different. The best vacuum is the one you actually use.
@@TheHookUp Ha ha very true.... Best
Do you mop your entire floor daily?
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Are you still using the moen flo? Can you provide us a long term update?
Still using it, still works, still freaks out, calls me, and sends 2 push notifications anytime I top off my pool using the garden hose (as it should).
@TheHookUp thank you!
By using real hair i think this review went the extra centimeter.
Roborock is way too loud
Generally speaking louder vacuums have better suction and carpet pickup performance. You can adjust the suction power in the app to make it quieter but that will obviously cause worse pickup peformance.
Let make a shitty overpriced, underpowered carpet vacuum and try to make it good. Still a good review, just think these are ridiculous on carpet.
I think the issue might be trying to balance a tangle resistant brush with one that can apply enough force to agitate high pile carpet properly. I recently tried switching my Dreametech L10S ultra from the rubber brush to their new TriCut brush and had significantly worse vacuuming performance (~15% decrease in my pickup tests).
@@TheHookUp Have you repeated the S7 vs S8 pickup tests?? It amazes me that S7 still overshadows the S8
Yes. At this point I've tested 3 S8's (Pro, MaxV Ultra, MaxV Auto Refill) and they are all consistent. I have also repeated the tests with my S7 MaxV many times. I suppose it's possible I have an above average S7, but it's consistent.
@@TheHookUp Thank you for the follow up!! love the content ❤
Hi, can you please review the new LG Cinebeam Q? Im on the fence about it!
It's dim, has no built in battery, a loud fan, and a large power brick. If your budget is $1300 there are WAY better options depending on your use case.
@@TheHookUp what i liked was the design and small form factor and the picture quality looks nice, i gather you wont do a full review yet?
Which one would you recommend in the 1300 range as of today? Thanks a lot brother!
@@TheHookUp thank you for warning me brother! I got the JMGO N1 ultra and I am very happy with it! Bummer that a new one is releasing soon.. but i am happy with my purchase! Projecting on wall so i dont see any speckle!