Pretty much any "fly through the narrow place to hit an important thing that is hard to hit" is inspired by the Dambusters raid. And that raid was far more insane than flying through a canyon at night in 60s/70s era fighters. The Dambusters did the same thing in Lancaster bombers, also at night. They flew incredibly low, barely above treetop level (one plane flew THROUGH a firebreak). They flew so low their bombs were torn off by the sea crossing the Channel, or flew into electrical cables. Then, the aircraft flew through the valleys to approach their targets. They made multiple attack runs. One of the valleys was full of fog, so one of the bombers dropped incendiaries to light it up and clear the fog. Also, the bombers had to pull up once they dropped their bombs to avoid hitting the hills behind the dams. Star Wars just took the idea, added dogfights and put it into a sci-fi setting, and then the canyon run just became a trope. In the modern day, pilots do ground attack runs through valleys like Rainbow Canyon in the US. There are other places, like the Mach Loop (aka Star Wars Canyon) in the UK, which are also used for low-level training.
In the manga series, Micky's F-14 is an Iranian bought plane that never made it to Iran. Micky had the cockpit modified so he could run most of the avionics package from the front seat.
One of the things they ported from the original series to the new one.. tought in the original Shin flew a F-20 Tigershark , it was far more bloody and they had the Harrier fight thing in the end
Yeah, which is why I prefer the original OVAs. I'm hoping another, true remake of Area 88 is done in the future, where it combines more elements from the OVA and Manga together
@AstroChickenII Micky's F-14 is modified so it can fly with one pilot only.. it cant use the most advanced radar functions like Data Link or the Phoenix, but since there were not such things in that area ... also almost all F-4 Phantoms in A88 were similary moded to fly with one pilot only.. couple of them could be seen with 2 but mostly were 1 pilot only
Interesing how in the english dub they also change the music. They also don’t call out their guns or missiles or splashes or whenever they’re going clean.
did the creator , writers or producers chose early models of mig-21 bcos it's the back bone of China's AF ?- back in the 90's . They shouda used latter models w/c were more advanced and armed w/radar-guided AAM .
Because, this is a different character. Roundell didn't participate in the Ravine Raid in the OVAs, but he did in both the Manga and OVAs. Nguyen Van Chom, the pilot of the Thunderchief, was introduced much later in the Manga.
bad awfully directing anime,a tons of various aircrafts shot out others and explode.A few seconds a hundred of new aircraft appear and fire the missiles...
i personally think area 88 in japanese made ZERO sense i liked the english version better if u think about it theirs like 4 japanese names in the entire anime ever mentioned and the rest are named like mickey, greg etc lol but thats in my opinion
I love how all the Avenger Mk. II's get slaughtered. But I hate the unrealism of this anime. If you're going to make an anime about flying, make it real. None of those jets could fly through a canyon at night. The engine wash from being so close would also put them into a spiral and they'd crash.
Now you know where Top Gun Maverick got the idea to fly below radar detection in a canyon blanketed by surface to air missiles.
Don't forget Ace Combat and Star Wars
Because in Ace Combat you experience them yourself
Pretty much any "fly through the narrow place to hit an important thing that is hard to hit" is inspired by the Dambusters raid. And that raid was far more insane than flying through a canyon at night in 60s/70s era fighters. The Dambusters did the same thing in Lancaster bombers, also at night. They flew incredibly low, barely above treetop level (one plane flew THROUGH a firebreak). They flew so low their bombs were torn off by the sea crossing the Channel, or flew into electrical cables. Then, the aircraft flew through the valleys to approach their targets. They made multiple attack runs. One of the valleys was full of fog, so one of the bombers dropped incendiaries to light it up and clear the fog. Also, the bombers had to pull up once they dropped their bombs to avoid hitting the hills behind the dams.
Star Wars just took the idea, added dogfights and put it into a sci-fi setting, and then the canyon run just became a trope.
In the modern day, pilots do ground attack runs through valleys like Rainbow Canyon in the US. There are other places, like the Mach Loop (aka Star Wars Canyon) in the UK, which are also used for low-level training.
@@guts-141 Ace Combat was inspired by the Area 88 OVAs and Manga. The OVAs came out in 1985, and the Manga was published from 1979-1986
It was the first thing i thought when he explained the mission for the first time 😂😂
From a WWII raid that inspired the movie “Dam Busters” that inspired George Lucas’ Star Wars….
In the manga series, Micky's F-14 is an Iranian bought plane that never made it to Iran. Micky had the cockpit modified so he could run most of the avionics package from the front seat.
One of the things they ported from the original series to the new one..
tought in the original Shin flew a F-20 Tigershark , it was far more bloody and they had the Harrier fight thing in the end
Yeah, which is why I prefer the original OVAs. I'm hoping another, true remake of Area 88 is done in the future, where it combines more elements from the OVA and Manga together
I think they've paired the music with the scenes very well though.
トップガン マーベリック見てきた！中学生の頃にミッドナイト上映で見て感動して。エリア88 も大好きで、マーベリックではこれパクッたんじゃね？と思ったけどめっちゃ心が踊った！
映画館でみるべし‼︎
自分も見終わってから気になって調べたけど、エリア88より633爆撃隊って映画が先らしい。
TOPGUN2を見ながらこれを思い出した人は多いだろうな〜
同意、だが「マーベリック」な！
パクったとゆうか参考にしたんじゃない？
マーベリックは、色々な戦闘機物のオマージュが詰まってますよね。
「機動戦士ガンダムSEED」シリーズは、各所にオマージュが散見されます。続編の「SEEDディスティニー」では、主人公の「シン・アスカ」がそのまんまの作戦を実行。……ダメだ。何度観ても、脳内ＢＧＭがエリア８８に切り替わってしまう（笑）。
原作漫画でも屈指の人気シーンの一つで「エリア88」で育った世代のゲームクリエイターが作る「エースコンバット・シリーズ」でも間違いなく、この「オペレーション・タイトロープ」エピソードをオマージュした峡谷強行突破ミッションは定番になる程。
都合2回のアニメ化されたエリア88で共にエピソード化されたこのシーンだが旧アニメ版、この新アニメ版共に尺の関係もあって原作から共に大幅にアレンジされている。
旧版のこのシーンもアップされてるみたいだし見較べるのも面白いかも。
結構ボロクソ言われがちな新アニメ版だが旧アニメで出なかった好みの機体が出た事に良い意味で脱アニメな機体挙動再現等に見るべき点多々あるし、音楽に関しては此方が好み。
サントラも3枚とも買って夜の峠や首都高でこのTemptation掛けながらのドライブするとまさにタイトロープに挑むエトランゼ気分で気分が上った。
売れれば頭文字Dに続くシリーズ化を狙ってた節もあったけど玉砕、続編立ち消えは残念なハナシ。
Muito bom!
Assistindo Aqui...
Lembrou de mais o filme sensação de 2022...
TopGun Maverick
In real life an F-14 tomcat might have difficulty turning or banking in a tight canyon like that.
It's not the plane, it's the pilot
@@guts-141 He said it’s difficult to turn tight like that. It’s true because the Tomcat was an interceptor, not a dogfighter so it’s not very agile
Logic, common sense and reality have nothing to do with anime. It is unfortunate.
@@luongduc9119 its reference dude
@@trev6664 I know, it’s from Top Gun
個人的にはTV版ではなく、これ以前に作られたOVA版が好みですね。作画も良かったし、何より声優さんが超豪華。シン役に塩沢兼人さん、ミッキー役に富山敬さん、マッコイ爺さんに家弓家正さんと、もう亡くなられた名優揃い。マジで円盤にして欲しいよねえ。
@AstroChickenII Micky's F-14 is modified so it can fly with one pilot only.. it cant use the most advanced radar functions like Data Link or the Phoenix, but since there were not such things in that area ... also almost all F-4 Phantoms in A88 were similary moded to fly with one pilot only.. couple of them could be seen with 2 but mostly were 1 pilot only
In the land of the blind the one-eyed is king. Fits perfectly here i should think. :)
we already know where they got the idea of the canyon mission in Top gun Maverick 😂😂
バッカニアにタイガーシャークにトム猫にスカイホークにクフィルに…たまらんね
This mission = Ravine missions of Ace Combat
Definitely one of the things that inspired Ace Combat
He's a boss, he doesn't need a RIO :3
Interesing how in the english dub they also change the music. They also don’t call out their guns or missiles or splashes or whenever they’re going clean.
Anybody alse is seeing this in 2019
I'm from 2021
2022
2024 8 july :) btc: $56k
この話での、ハリアーのアクションは、神だね
You know you stuffed up flying a Mig-21 if you get killed by a Harrier within gun range.
No wonder he’s good because he’s Takahashi Ryosuke.(VA reference)
Or Dio Brando
Came here for the TOP GUN Maverick comments
"Follow me flawlessly without hesitating."
ラウンデル隻眼なのに、よく遠近感掴めるな。
過酷な特訓や訓練も無しに
いきなり本番をやらされるとは
エース級が多いですし下手でも中の上ですから、打ち合わせするだけで十分でしょ？
I never realized the SNES game UN Squadron was based on an anime! The more you know I guess!
633爆撃隊→スターウォーズ→エリア88→エースコンバット→トップガン:マーヴェリック
といった具合に受け継がれてるんやな
ミッションの定番ですね！でもこれが一番手に汗握る。
i notice that the f4 phantom always get the worst end of everything in this show
That and the MIG-21
旧タイトロープのグレックセリフが傭兵ぽくてけっこう気に入ってたんだが
그가 진정한 산타클로스다!
風間の｢あとは銭勘定しながら勝手にやれ!!｣が気に入ってましたけどね。
@@user-dg2zi1wo4b あ〜それもっぽい良いですね。ミッキーのハエたたきはどうですか？。
@@sv51ydd 傭兵が言いそうなセリフ回しでいいんでない(；^ω^)
Basically this is the first part of TOP GUN Maverick's mission and the second part is Star War's attack on the Death Star.
Isso mesmo!!😎
Eh more like ac7 cape rainy
This thinks of me about Ace Combat 7
GOOD MORNING VIETNAM!!!
Fortunate son plays
최고의 명작!! 90년대 초에 만들어졌다는게 믿기지 않을정도 명작
@dacomontana That would be Temptation by Markos off of the Area 88 Sound Color 1 CD. ^_^
カッコイイ!!
(￣ー￣) This operation is Danse Macabre, so to speak, a flamenco survivor.
Good Luck!
キムがミサイルじゃなく機銃で敵機を撃墜してるの成長を感じられていいよね
なぜ映像作品になる度に原作より難易度を上げてくるのか。
the song is called Temptation
Just like Beggars Canyon back home!
i think this is way difficult than top gun maverick
Top Gun Maverick canyon are easier but they have to do it quickly before being intercepted by enemy pilots in BVR
獨行俠，就是仿效這峽谷飛行
did the creator , writers or producers chose early models of mig-21 bcos it's the back bone of China's AF ?- back in the 90's . They shouda used latter models w/c were more advanced and armed w/radar-guided AAM .
CG was the death of anime.
Didn't the guy with a beard fly an A-10 in the original?
He flew a skyhawk first
グレッグのA-10は原作では砂漠空母登場以降に入手しているので、この時点ではA-4スカイホークに乗っていますよ。
Well one thing im sure of: that guy with the eyepatch didnt pass the medical tests
MiG-2１カッコいい
イスラエル空軍のベッカを元にした空戦
Goose died in an ejection accident when their F-14 went into a flat spin.
@MIK Mikoyanster sent me! 👍
Ah me too
トムキャットが飛んでる
F-14Bらしいけど、エンジンがA型のTF-30なんやが？
@@user-cn8ki6gf1r さん
マッコイ爺さんだからね
Where can I get this full version of the track
@pjladyfox thanks men this song is so good!!!
何故CAPCOMはシステムｆとコラボしてエリア８８をリメイクしない？？？？？？ｗ
ヤバ過ぎる………
How come this version's got different music?
Many old anime got released with different background sound tracks in different parts of the world.
原作にオリジナルと原作の人間が混ざり別だけど面白い。
I see where ac got their ideas
エースコンバット7のケープレイニー強襲も？
サイバーだ！
Anyone else curious why they changed his Jet from a Thunderchief to a Buccaneer from the original? Not that I’m complaining
Nothing wrong with a Buccaneer :)
Because, this is a different character.
Roundell didn't participate in the Ravine Raid in the OVAs, but he did in both the Manga and OVAs.
Nguyen Van Chom, the pilot of the Thunderchief, was introduced much later in the Manga.
is this what I see in the movie "top gun maverick"?
I dont think they understand what a Barrel Roll is in the first place. No plane could do a barrel roll in a canyon 12m wide.
I think they meant aileron roll
Holy shit is this what they based Operation Werewolf off of in Ace Combat 7?!
Original Manga is 30 years ago, even PS1 is not apreaded.
well, canyon through mission in AceCombat is exist from AC1/2/3 at PS1.
Ace Combat is heavily influenced by Area 88.
Zero and Inifnity even had Area 88 skins for the planes.
Canyon,Tunnel is tradition lessons of ACE. lol
Who came here after watching TOP GUN Maverick?
TVA suck~!
OVA is a master piece.
what's the name of the first song?
bad awfully directing anime,a tons of various aircrafts shot out others and explode.A few seconds a hundred of new aircraft appear and fire the missiles...
The original looked better in my opinion
what is the name of the song area 88 use many techno trance
Temptation
Its always the MiGs
ほー、ミッキーのドラ猫はいつD型に？
series name
This anime series is not best. The best is movie series 1.2.3
@bjornagain81 which plane?
Whats The Name Of The Song At 3:47
Area 88 - Dogfight
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i personally think area 88 in japanese made ZERO sense
i liked the english version better if u think about it
theirs like 4 japanese names in the entire anime ever mentioned and the rest are named like mickey, greg etc lol but thats in my opinion
YanYan1337 yeah I agree, they should do a mix of English and Japanese subs you know.
原作>ACT3 >>>(超えられない壁)>>> コイツ
子安！
워썬더 할 때 듣는 음악
And what in your mind suggested that?
anime name ??
AREA88
I love how all the Avenger Mk. II's get slaughtered.
But I hate the unrealism of this anime. If you're going to make an anime about flying, make it real. None of those jets could fly through a canyon at night. The engine wash from being so close would also put them into a spiral and they'd crash.
Ah yes, calling for realism while also not using the actual names of the aircraft...
*facepalm*
@@Tigershark_3082 mate this guy said that 11 years ago
@@clostridiumtetani9947 doesn't make him any less of a clown lmao
no wonder you are so depress. This is anime, entertainment. JUST enjoy it ok？
The plane of Micky's not an F-14 Tomcat is a XP-21F
死と隣り合わせのミッションとBGMが合ってない。
旧作と違って、モブキャラが皆無...虚無な作品やなぁ
Too SLOW to like this ANI!!
トランスシチューババア草
F14に爆撃能力は無いよなぁ。
あるよ
元から対地攻撃も想定されてたけど積極的に導入されなかっただけ
晩年は対地攻撃能力が付加されて、アフガニスタンやイラク戦争でペイブウェイやJDAMを用いた爆撃任務をこなしてる
初期は完全に対空兵装しかありませんでしたが
改修後は爆装出来るようになって
ボムキャットとか呼ばれてましたよ。