Rich Eisen: USC & UCLA to the Big Ten Is 1st Step in the Creation of a College Football Super League
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- čas přidán 7. 09. 2024
- Rich Eisen reacts to reports that USC and UCLA are close to leaving the Pac-12 for the Big Ten and says this could be the first steps toward the creation of a College Football Super League that breaks away from the NCAA.
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In under 5 years it will look like the NFL. Two Conferences, 4 divisions each, internal playoffs leading to Conference champion that plays the other conference's champ for National title.
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Pretty much. The only stickler is how they get rid of schools like Vanderbilt and Northwestern.
Yep - it boils down to a battle between FOX Sports and ABC/ESPN. Fox has the expanding Big 10 and ABC/ESPN controls the top conference in the SEC. All future decisions will be driven primarily by TV ratings and what kind of TV numbers a team can draw. They will also consider many other factors, but they will start with TV ratings when all is said and done.
It's not gonna be that simple. There's always gonna be somebody that wants in.
this was my thought too.
I completely agree this marks the beginning of the end for the ncaa in college football. Notre dame is going to have to make a choice for the football program
ND fan here....I kinda agree in the sense that youre gonna have to be a conference champion to get a spot in the CFP....but I don't think theyre gonna do it, not for a long time. theyre still making a ton of money from their NBC deal, so they don't need it really. It's just gonna force us to start playing real teams, not some of these bottom of the barrel teams that weve been scheduling recently. I really hope we don't go to the ACC, but all our other sports are there so we better get used to playing Virginia and Wake Forest every year instead of Mich, Mich St, OSU, etc
Should of joined the Big Ten ND. Was the best conference for them.
@@hrs1414 The way this thing is headed, the only teams in the playoff will be part of the B1G or the SEC. I guarantee you the ADs of Oregon, Washington, etc will be putting feelers out for the B1G right now. If more join, then ACC schools to start doing the same with the SEC. North, Midwest, and Pacific West to the B1G. South and Southwest to SEC. It's going to happen and those who hesitate might be left behind.
Everyone else is going to have to form a playoff for themselves.
ND is overrated but they need to pick a side now!
Norte Dame in the Big 10 now would be golden! No pun, but with USC and Notre Dame in the same conference in football, He’ll yes!
As a Seattle native and a big football fan I’m very worried about the pac 12. We already were dying compared to the other Power 5’s. If this happens (which it probably will because of money) we’re D.O.A.
pac 12 is dead UW and Oregon need to jump ship now
@@shigeolincolntaco Where would they go tho? One to SEC one to Big10?
@@jakes1677 It's B10 or bust at this point the pac is dead with no LA schools in the conference it's over
@@jakes1677 big ten won’t take both only one and notre dame
@@jakes1677 Big 12?
It is crazy how our conferences used to be regional based and now west coast teams may soon play in the BIG 10
Its going to happen..Big Ten West in inevitable...
May soon? It’s a guarantee my guy. A lot of changes coming soon. Gonna look very different
Universities should create Schools of Athletics and stop the hypocrisy of student-athletes. Teach them how to play football, be coaches, trainers, etc. Anyone, who is serious about academics can cross educate in a legitimate school in the university.
"Show me the Money!!" The largest TV markets in the country all in one college football conference coast to coast. The TV ratings for USC vs OSU, Michigan, PSU in LA or USC in the Shoe? The Big House or Happy Valley?
Yep a true national conference. Pick up The U and nearly all major TV markets in country are covered .
But no national championships north of Columbus...
Hard to imagine USC being the Big 10 representative in the Rose Bowl.
Don’t worry, they won’t get to that level anyways! Haha!
Why do you think that USC can compete in the big 10 if they can’t compete in the PAC 12 in football anymore? What’s your justification?
@@skypirate6278 I'm not talking about THIS year. But USC has a long and storied history and they will undoubtedly have more great seasons in the future.
But deep down this is 1 of the saddest events in college sports history...
Nope/ it’s evolution baby
It’s a dying sport. Boomers being main audience are slowly dying off
@@jorgy1470 Nice PJ reference, but this is 100% the path to eventual extinction.
@@alia1824 college students are the main audience for college sports obviously, not boomers. I don’t know where you would get that from
The PAC12 had years to improve and failed. Blame those in charge.
I remember when European Super League came up Rich called this all along. Such a humble host tho
The best thing for the now " pac 10" to do is form a alliance with the big 12 and have their own playoff at the end of the year with 3 teams from each conference participating. The conference champion of each league gets a bye to the 2nd round. Ignore what the SEC and big 10 are doing because you can't compete with them now so just do your own thing.
That's cute but those schools still don't have no clout or money
I think we will see the major power5 teams form a super league of 30 to 40 teams. Then there will be a subtier that will be the Mississippi states, and Virginia's, and Baylor that will be actual college football. I think people will gravitate to those teams because it won't be so money driven in those leagues.
@@mistanderson basketball wise they do. Texas Tech, Kansas, Baylor, Arizona, Oregon, Cal have good Bball programs.
@@professorfleX420 Ummm this is all about Football. These moves are FOOTBALL money moves not basketball moves. Football carries everything
Let's just go ahead a name the conference NFL Farm Teams. "Realignment" has ruined college football. NCAA hasn't been relevant in decades, but the destruction of traditional rivalry and the fact that these college tickets are costing more than NFL teams has ruined it for students and alumni alike. These players aren't even students at this point. Just make the NFL be responsible for it's farm system the way it's done in baseball.
98% won’t make the nfl though…
@@cc-92 same them with 98% of minor league players unfortunately it’s never about the mass only about the few
This is a horrible take, college football is extremely relevant
As a fan of one of these teams likely to be left behind in the shuffle this blows. There’s basically no reason to follow college football now unless your school/franchise is in the “Super League”
Exactly. It is now a farm league for the NFL.
Big 10 needs to just go ahead and snatch up Stanford, Oregon, ND and Washington.
Much better academic fit in the Big 10 especially for ND and Stanford.
Those teams joining makes the most sense with what has just happened. I would support that move.
Who cares about academics?? It's all about the $$$$$$!
Just completely absorb the pac 12 as a whole.
@@xavierbreath2227
oof. No thank you. Don't want the Arizona schools, Wazzu, or Oregon State. Not sure about Utah or Cal either.. I like the first proposal.... Oregon, Washington, ND, Stanford..... that would be enough.
USC and UCLA are going to play 10 conference basketball games where the shortest flight will be a 6-hour round trip to Lincoln, Nebraska.
Imagine like the tennis team or the wrestling team. It will be rough but clearly USC and UCLA have factored all that in
@@markwilliams9963 I'd imagine they drop all other sports except football and basketball into a west coast league.
Are you a grandma? 6 hours is nothing
More like 4-5 hours but yeah crazy
players have nothing better to do anyway
"And if the kids can get an education out of it too...." lol
No Scholarship money to players…give it to the kids studying Medicine, Science, Biology, Mathematics, Engineering, and any other areas of study that benefit American Society. Athletes are bottom feeders in the River of Life-particularly in the U.S. And particularly basketball and football players.
@@pilljr.3331 The smart kids get their own scholarships. I see what you mean tho. But without college athletics, kids don't hear about Baylor, Clemson, Duke, or Gonzaga.
@@pilljr.3331 if athletes are bottom feeders then why are all the other non-athletes spending so much time and money investing in what athletes do?…why dont they all just entertain themselves each weekend? Certainly they should all be smart enough to figure that out….or maybe they’ve acknowledged to themselves most of their lives just arent that interesting in comparison so thats why the pack out arenas and stadiums by the 10s of thousands each week
@@pilljr.3331 we masses need the modern bread & circus my friend.
@@pilljr.3331 "bottom feeders"? Whats with this bitter attitude towards student-athletes?
The world of College Football, in the ‘50-‘90, is gone forever
The fact that no business owners are looking at the NIL deal as a chance to make money tell you everything you need to know. Just blow it up, create a new league, and pay the players directly.
@Wilt Chamberlain is the GOAT college football is still better in my opinion. Players only have 4 years of eligibility - so it feels like every team -no matter how much they suck - is potentially a few years away from contending for some type of title.
Doesn’t ever feel like that with sucky NFL teams.
But the biggest reasons are that there are so many colleges that you can cheer for your city/state/local team instead of a regional team or random team like a lot of NFL fans have to root for.
College Football is more like English Premier League Soccer than any other US sport.
NIL?
@@nochepatada NAME. IMAGE. LIKENESS. College players able to make money using NIL as the cover
@@lennchadful I figured they didn't mean National Indoor Lacrosse
@@JabezGill I love college football but it doesn't compare to the nfl!All the nfl is are the best of the best players from college so they're bigger,faster and stronger.The nfl product has been amazing in recent years.Just look at last years playoffs.The nfl is king of all sports for 99% of us!
This started with Texas A&M, Missouri, Nebraska, etc moving to the Big 10 and SEC. This is like the 3rd big domino to fall, with UT and OU being #2. Not sure how many more before it all crumbles.
Yep Texas Longhorns and A&M squabbled over tv rights. That spurred the move
Colorado started this. They will be the biggest losers in the end. I bet they come crawling back to the B12 and i hope thr B12 tells them to get lost.
USC v. Michigan each year? Sounds pretty good ..... UCLA vs. Wisconsin ....nice -----folks....its a whole new ballgame
OMG Rich!!! California native and Michigan alum here. I am so confused! Who can I hate more, 'the' Ohio State or USC?! But if USC & UCLA can bring the Rose Bowl and the Rose Parade to be the permanent home of the Big Ten Championship, I'm in!
I Hate University of Michigan
@@antoniosaxon8605 we hate you Antoinette 😘
I always thought the PAC and BIG10 should have merged with the Rose being the conference Championship. That would respect their historic partnership and look towards the future.
@@antoniosaxon8605 All universities are the same..... Institutions of Marxist ideologies.
"You Will own nothing and be happy."
~ Klaus Schwab ~
The World Economic Forum
This has nothing to do with college football.
Why are "institutions of higher learning" in professional sports? They need to split off these athletic departments from the schools and stop making students pay to help support the athletic departments. It's BS.
If USC and UCLA leave the PAC-12 then Oregon has to leave which means the PAC-12 is done.
Pac 12 is dead now
And that's not a bad thing!🥂😎👍
I look forward to USC and UCLA joining the Big Ten West and it still being Iowa and Wisconsin competing for the title with the random appearances of Northwestern.
Divisons will be gone in next year or two.
Lol... you don't want USC... Riley building one of those super teams and now with NIL USC boosters have a lot deeper pockets then Iowa boosters😅
this is truly the golden age of B1G West football
@@lakeozarkrei3767 but how will he deal with patty Fitz's scheming this isn't the big 12 we play defense and manball in this conference not worried USC is garbage in the trenches
No way -- I’m a massive big ten fan but USC will be back by the end of 2022.
By 2024 they should be a top 5 team in the country.
Riley had Oklahoma in the top 10 every season - and now he has a much better pipeline of talent around him in Cali.
OSU vs USC will be a massive rivalry
It’ll be equivalent to Bama vs Georgia
Michigan vs USC sounds so good every year
UCLA vs Indiana in basketball got me excited
The dominance of the SEC since 2006 and addition of Oklahoma and Texas has led to the creation of super conferences.
The NCAA will continue to have the Division 1 (FBS and FCS), Division 2 and Division 3 leagues but the big universities will leave the NCAA and form their own semi-pro league…. let’s call it the NIL. I’m not too thrilled about this but this is where we are headed for better or for worse the NCAA is getting ready to lose their relevancy.
If all of the bread winners leave their conferences there won’t be much difference between the SEC, Big 10, ACC, PAC 12, Big 12, Sun Belt, WAC, Mountain West. I can see the bread winners in the FCS getting promoted into the FBS. Then, you can pretty much bet that half of the sponsored bowl games will be defunct. It might resort back to where it was in the 1980s when there were only about 8-10 Bowl Games.
To many Bowl games now anyway and most are not relevant and the host schools do not even support some. 8 -10 REAL bowl games of the 80”s not a bad idea.
As a fan of a current Power 5 team that is likely to be left behind, this feels like getting demoted to the minor leagues. If this happens there’s basically no reason for most athletic programs to exist.
Then eventually someone will buy it, maybe the NFL, and corporatize it and it will turn into the NIL into the G-League for football. Maybe each team is sponsored by a university at first but whether players are students gradually becomes inconsequential and eventually each university sells their sponsorship rights for billions of dollars.
And then the universities start their own football teams for students that play in the same kind of local conferences as women's field hockey and college football becomes amateur again and everyone watches that instead of the NIL. So then kids can either 'go pro' out of high school and get paid or go to college and be an amateur student athlete and sign NIL deals if they are good. Just like we see in basketball
Big Ten should get Oregon, Washington, Stanford and Notre Dame also and have two divisions. Big Ten West and Big Ten East. 10 teams each.
No. B1G Pac West and B1G Pac East.
The rest of the PAC 12 should combine with the leftover big 12. They could be the ACC of the west, or WCC. At least you’d have 2 powerhouse conferences and two “can be” competitive conferences.
Stupid. Never happen. Oregon isn't going anywhere.
Not a terrible idea
@@user-tz2zz5ij1s Good luck!
Easy solution to this issue:
1) Two 20 team conferences, split into two divisions. 12 game schedule, playing all 9 division foes, 2 conference foes, and 1 non-alignment school (someone not in the two conferences).
2) Top 2 teams in each division are in the play-offs, competing to earn a trip to the "College Bowl". The next 6 teams in each Conference are matched with the comparably ranked school from the other conference, playing in a bowl game. The final 10 teams in each conference are free to accept invitations to privately run/financed games against schools not in either of the two conferences.
3) Have an 8 team play-off, similar to the NFL, with each conference champion going to the "College Bowl."
4) Encourage the creation of two additional conferences, with similar geography, as the top 2. Same set up for games, playoffs, and bowls. Every 2 years, the worst team in each top tier conference moves down, while the top team from each bottom conference moves up.
Now the Big 10 network has the top 3 market's New York, Los Angeles and Chicago winner is the Big 10 network
Well put. Rich , much love to you and the team there.
It won't be good for college football if the Big 10 and SEC expand to 20 teams each. They will still play only 12 games per season and there will still only be one champion per conference each season and it will likely be one of the same five teams every season. The SEC and Big 10 may field 9 out of 12 teams in the playoffs every season and one of those two leagues will win the NC 9 out of 10 seasons. How much fun would it be to watch college football if there are only two conferences playing? Watching only two conference championship games every year and a playoff featuring the same teams that we saw during the regular season playing each other for a championship would be no fun to me.
The conferences are officially done. We can thank the southern pricks for starting this. So much for local pride. I can’t wait to root for….Hawaii vs Boston College in the ACC. I can’t believe this is happening. I know it’s all $ but traditions are being destroyed
s/southern pricks/ESPN/g and you got that right.
The move of USC & UCLA is the beginning of the end of student athletes as amateurs. The kids are going to see this mercenary move, and say "Show me the Money."
Good for the kids. They should've been paid a long time ago.
@@88spaces You're darn right. The end of the Plantation System.
@@kimoandrews5802 Yes. If you contribute towards the profits you should get paid. Period.
@@kimoandrews5802 You should get a percentage of any profit you help generate. What's the point of your effort if you don't?
As a 50 year fan of the big ten, imo these two schools are way too far away from our region. Travel expenses are going to be insane. There are more sports than just football.
Every ACC, PAC 10, and Big 12 school are asking to get into the SEC and Big10.
Big10 has an academic standard that has to be met, so most schools don't even qualify.
All the leftovers need to form a super conference!
No one cares about UCLA football. USC & Oregon are the only teams that matter in the PAC-12. There’s no point in doing this without bringing Oregon along.
but sc and ucla tradition is big in ncaa so they had to go with them
Universities need to simply promise a degree no matter how long it takes if the NCAA wants any semblance of integrity
No integrity at NCAA if it disappears completely it would be the best outcome. Losing traditional rivalries will suck. USC versus Iowa, who cares?
Need to divorce athletics from academics. Just make them pros/minor leagues like MLB.
Honestly it’s basically a tier of professional athletics at this point lol
Yup because not all teams have same requirements for actual academics requirements of players
I think so too.. have classes for money management, social media presence, business ethics, basically things they will need to be successful after sports..
Who would pay them? The majority of college football players still benefit more from the degree too
halfway there in one short year
Rich wants a fair schedule while Michigan plays a complete joke of a schedule this year.
And now ship Maryland and Rutgers to the PAC-12 in exchange. ;-)
Yes, I hate those two being in the Big Ten
🤣Hahaha😆
Nah, I think we'll stay
And, lose the lucrative east coast cable TV revenue? Rutgers, Maryland and their cable market (to carry the B1G Network) is the reason they were invited into the conference and, one of the reasons the conference can possibly land a 1.1 billion dollar TV rights deal. Fans always think football when these deals go down. It's not football, it's the dollars. Obviously, the conference is willing to suffer mediocre sports in exchange for a cool billion. And, that's before USC, UCLA and their cable market was a factor. With that the conference could be looking at a 1.5 billion dollar TV deal. Cha ching!
This is the airplane Super Conference people talked about in the 50's where two Super Conferences will reign Supreme. Big 12 is looking like a High mid Major if Baylor, Ok st decides to join the Pac 12 or ACC
Kansas, Kansas State, and Iowa State are worth more to other conferences than Baylor who has almost no alumni base or fan base.
@@borbafatt Geographical wise, Baylor and Ok St are closer to the West Coast. A Texas school in the Pac 12 has lots of relevance with Californians from the Bay Area and Los Angeles moving to Texas in high numbers. It makes sense to have a Texas school in 3 of the Power 5 Conferences.
Kansas is always going to be high caliber in basketball, but football has its ups and downs.
@@edwardnygma2702 If that’s the case and they want a Texas market Texas Tech is worth 5 times what Baylor is. Despite their recent success in football and basketball Baylor is, along with TCU ,the least valuable programs in the big 12
If the Big 10 can have 16 teams, then I think Oregon and Washington should join the Atlantic Coast Conference.
Both those schools will be in the big 10 soon enough. its not stopping at 16, not stopping at 17 when ND joins. its end up at 24-26 after 3-5 more years pass and TV deals expire. the SEC will end up getting teams like Texax Tech, Okie state, Baylor, ETC. there will be 2 mega conferences soon. 2 24-26 school conferences
Is Riley going to announce that he’s going to be the coach at Hawaii?
Not enough $
Just separate the football teams from the colleges. Make it into the NFL youth developmental league.
College Football Playoffs Relegation System. Tier 1-30 Teams who are eligible for the 12 Team CFP tournament. Only allowed to schedule other teams in tier 1. Bottom 5 teams get relegated to tier 2 every year. Tier 2-30 Teams who will play the traditional regional schedule and have the chance to earn spots into the CFP tier. Top 5 ranked bowl champs will replace the bottom 5 from tier 1. Tier 2 can play tier 2 and top half of tier 3. Bottom 4 teams are relegated to 8 team relegation playoffs. Tier 3-20 Teams who will play a traditional regional schedule similar to tier 2. Will play bowls and top 4 teams will play with tier 2 and 8 team playoffs.
Any time relegation is involved I can get behind it
Some years ago Bob Ryan from the Boston Globe we’re going to end up with four conferences everyone will be in. I think he was right.
Does the super conference even need the NCAA ? No. This is the slow death of the NCAA
Schools need the NCAA for title 9
@@timnor4803 If there's enough NIL money, there's no need for scholarships anymore. If that happens, football and men's BB no longer need to be concerned about title 9. The NCAA would only be necessary for non-revenue sports. It would be a huge blow for women's college sports as well as the NCAA, which would have almost all its funding cut.
@@onehorsetoomany8006 I will say, assuming this is all about football, the NCAA won't lose much revenue. Almost the entirety of its current earnings actually come from the D1 Basketball tournament. I'm not sure they make anything important from football anymore, since they're not in charge of the FBS.
@@edwardcardona717 Exactly correct, and if there's any sport where NIL is bigger than football, it's men's basketball. If men's basketball goes full NIL, without scholarships, why do they need the NCAA?
USC better have to travel to Penn State, Michigan, and/or Ohio State in the winter.
ESPN has destroyed college sports
Revisiting this video after CU, WU, OU, ASU, and UofA all left to new conferences in the span of seven days. Saw it coming a mile away.
As an Oregon State alum I think we are heading to the Sun Belt Conference in a few years, what a fucking train wreck.
i like Oregon State. you guys need to aim higher than the damn sun belt. start begging the SEC or Big 10 now. youll die in the sun belt
The Big Ten is the PREMIERE College Football league in the nation. No other conference is coast to coast and no other conference has schools in LA, Chicago, and New York City.
Sheer hilarity. I rejoice at the slow destruction of the NCAA.
Likewise, everybody’s crying & im just confused
@Wilt Chamberlain is the GOAT Nothing more than a professional league played at a much inferior level.
@Wilt Chamberlain is the GOAT I have watched less and less of college. Think I'm pulling the plug. It used to be kind of neat to see a phenom before they were professional. I can just wait.
This is just another distraction from what's really happening.
Steven Perry-
Exactly. We don't need them. Waste of money.
Lost a lot of interest in CFB after the dismantling of the Big East and with The Pac-12 being my other favorite conference I'll say this just sucks.
Oregon and ND to the Big 10 makes most sense, but Clemson and ND could work. ND in the west division with USC and UCLA would be great!
It would be logistically ideal to have Oregon, ND, Washington, and others join the Big Ten but the addition of each school would require contributing $100 million in TV revenue to justify it. Notre Dame would obviously cover it but Oregon and Washington it’s hard to say. Part of the problem (and reason UCLA/USC left the Pac-12) is the geographic isolation and low population of western states. If you take the population of states and neighboring states comprising each conference, the Pac-12 has by far the smallest population. It’s not that Portland and Seattle aren’t big markets but they are at least 600 miles from the next closest population centers. It’s a big part of the Pac-12’s decline in recent years. They just don’t get that much exposure.
Sucks for the Pac 12 but if the Big 10 can get some other schools like Oregon Washington Norte Dame that’s a dope league and is spread from coast to coast.
Duck fans are onboard and if we have to bring the much hated puppies of WaRshington with us we will.
@@RedFive03 i like the ducks, even though i am a Michigan fan. i have always liked Oregon. except for that loser Joey Harrington the lions got. but i can forgive lol
@@lennchadful ugh always felt so bad for Joey going to that horrendous team.
PAC 12 RIP
If all these moves mean the end of the monopolistic NCAA then I applaud it fully. We at SC have never forgiven the over reach that was perpetrated upon us. Good F'ing riddance..
I think a 16 team playoff is a wonderful idea. It makes teams like Alabama actually play competitive teams and win multiple games before any national championship bid.
Ohio state , Georgia and Clemson are not competitive teams?
Cope.....
The problem is Michigan’s record against those 2 teams when we go out West.
0-2 Michigan
Michigan is 8-3 lifetime vs. UCLA,4-6 vs. USC.
@@danieldecker2526 and I bet those losses came at the Rose Bowl and Coliseum, respectively.
@@ronaldmccomb8301 Rose Bowls,but i think UCLA won in Ann Arbor in 1982.
But wait until they have to play Michigan in the big house in November
Imagine these cali teams playing in freezing temperatures and snow in November and January in the Midwest.
Which is why I said no way in hell does Miami join the B1G, and all that travel to boot. We'll be SEC.
California kids already leave for the big 10 and sec. And they do just great. Shouldn’t be so different.
And part of the agreement when the Pac-10 became the Pac-12 was that Cal and Stanford had to play USC and UCLA every year. That tradition will be dead now.
How about UCLA vs Arizona in basketball? As a UCLA fan thats what I will miss the most.
@@biozio186 this is all about football. I don't know why they just don't separate football from college athletics
@@freeisalwaysme cuz then it would be the usfl or xfl
@@freeisalwaysme still gonna miss the rivalry tho
@@biozio186 non conference games
Big television acts like this wasn't going to happen when those billion dollar contracts were being signed.
Cant wait to see USC at Happy Valley in the snow in November. California kids gonna be thinking, "WTF did we agree to?"
They've been playing in Utah Colorado and Washington....
Colorado, Oregon, Washington, Utah, WSU, Oregon State all places that have snowy weather! Try again!
Pac-12 North all have snowy locations try again
@@wejuggernautentertainmentl3156 can’t help those who don’t know regional weather
As a USC fan this move makes sense because since the inception of the college football playoffs and even before that during the BCS the PAC-12 teams always had to go undefeated just to sniff the national championship game. A one loss big 10 or SEC team still had a shot whereas USC had to go undefeated and even Oregon had to as well
Wrong. A one loss PAC12 powerhouse always had a chance to go to the playoffs. The last time the Ducks has a 10 one loss was in 2014 and Helfrich took then to the playoffs where they lost to Ohio State. Prior to that the last time the Ducks had a one loss team was in 2012 under Chip Kelly was in 2012. USC has not had an undefeated team or one loss team since 2004 under Pete Carroll. Two loss teams never make the playoff. And, the SEC plays 8 conference games and most of their teams schedule a auto-win for their midseason conference game. As an example, Alabama played New Mexico State for their tenth game of the season last year. So they had an 8 game conference season, a bye, and a late season game against NMS. In 2019 they played NMS early and Western Carolina late. If the commsioner of the PAC12 had any brains he would demand our season be changed to 8 conference games, like the SEC, so we don't cannibalize our own. All the teams would schedule a late season patsy like in the SEC. And we would not have night games, which are never watched in the mid-west or east and so our ratings are in the toilet. AND, we would never allow any of our teams a start time for an away game earlier than a time adjusted for noon PST time. No more noon EST games which is a 9:00 a.m. PST time which means the kids are up at 5:00 a.m. to get ready for a game. Being mach isn't cool, its stupid when it costs you wins. Its all just really stupid and self defeating. If we made the changes I speak about The PAC 12 would end up with four or five teams every season with one or two losses fighting it out at the end, and TV audiences would be huge - no one watches 2 loss teams out of playoff contention at the end of a season fighting for a second tier bowl game, which is exactly what the PAC12 has been the last so many years. We have just screwed ourselves in the PAC12 with schedule mismanagement and short term greed. Looking for a payday with night games has cost the conference huge over the long haul. Anyway, you get my drift.
Well that's because the PAC 10 has been a weak conference. They don't play anyone.
@@tomhorvath6137 you really had to write a whole novel huh weirdo. People didn’t respect the PAC-12 plain and simple
@@DAISYROSE22 everybody has bottom feeders. Every conference is top heavy at this point in time.
Looking forward to seeing USC play in Ann Arbor.
And seeing Penn St in the Rose Bowl against UCLA
Ohio St under the lights in the coliseum
Can’t wait!
I believe that this tested out last year. when Oregon played OSU.
i also believe that Oregon will join the B1G if the usc and ucla join.
Perhaps it will eventually be two college conferences, with College Super Bowl. The halftime show will be marching bands circling around Doja Cat.
Maybe two conferences that aren’t really 12 anymore can hook up… Big 12 + PAC 12= ?
Anyone remember that alliance spear headed by the Big 10 after UT and OU announced their departure to the SEC? Well perhaps it wasn't really an alliance, perhaps it was a fishing expedition by the Big 10 to hunt for new members to join the conference.
I’d love for college football to do relegation like soccer. The big ten could be the top leave and you get relegated down to the pac twelve. Same with sec and big twelve
I agree with the (old) relegation idea, but saying the Big Ten would be at the top instead of the SEC makes us both look like morons.
@@panhalt5604 I don't think that's what he said.. For my understanding, Big 10 and SEC would be the two top flight leagues (likely having their winners battling it out for the national championship).. And relegation/promotion would be to either the Big12 or Pac12 as then second tier leagues.. Which almost works fine, just gotta figure out where the ACC fits in all this 🤔
@@inst4rmin.x4_onYT you could use the MAC and sunbelt as the lower league for the ACC
@@inst4rmin.x4_onYT put ACC at the very bottom because it's mostly trash lmao
Money talks. The power conferences are not going to relegate teams in the LA TV market, or any other major TV market. This is ALL about the ability to generate massive TV contracts.
If you want a college sports league where the athletes are students athletes, Division 3 football is there. Its in pretty much every state too
Well since Oak fans think Reilly was running from the SEC it only stands to reason now he's going to go the Big 12.
The big ten has 16 teams with the new additions hasn't been ten since the 90s but I guess you didn't know that
as an okla fan you guys are both drunk lol
@@yung1smitty I thought they actually had 14? And 2 affiliates. Anyways eventually it will look something like 4 main Conferences with about 18-20 maybe more teams in each. Twelve-Sixteen team playoffs. Should be interesting.
At this point anybodys guess is as good as any. But I think you missed my meaning. Oak fans thought Reilly was avoiding the SEC so he went to a lesser Conference the Pac 12. So with that reasoning now that there going to the Big 10 he will run to the lesser Conference the Big 12 or ACC.
I know. Dumb joke.
Now THIS is why I can't help but like Rich Eisen -- he sees the entire construct from the perspective of the players, which is how it should be and should have been from that first game between Rutgers and Princeton. Well said Mr. Eisen.
This is the first step toward Big Ten going to 20 teams. I could see them getting Oregon and Washington from Pac, and then maybe two teams from ACC (potentially Clemson and Miami). Will separate into West and East regions is my prediction.
Man I hope they get Notre Dame
@@kych2008 ND will NEVER switch from being independent for football
Clemson would fit better in the SEC though if such moves were to happen.. And if it did I definitely see both conferences going to 20 teams
I actually think the SEC gets Clemson and Florida State at some point. Big Ten has shown they’ll only go after AAU schools…if they stick with that. Good options though…Stanford, Washington, UNC, Pitt, Georgia Tech…
Big Ten seems to be in love with the North Carolina schools in the ACC.
I’ll go further, College Football needs to adopt the premier league model of tiers and relegation. Top 20 teams form 1st Division. With 20 teams below to start. Then, have bottom 4 teams of top division relegated and top 4 teams of 2nd division promoted.
This would be interesting.
the Premier League model is with three relegations and promotions. Four is applied here in my home, Brazil.
I defend three relegations, I think four is a bit too much.
I like that model, me and every soccer fan have lived with it their whole lives. Now the MLS is trying to push that away and is already dragging the mexican teams through the mud in it
Can you imagine if USC and UCLA leave for the B1G? They'd have Los Angeles, Chicago, and New York as markets, plus as academic powerhouses, USC and UCLA would join academic powerhouses such as Northwestern, Wisconsin, and Michigan (notice no Ohio State mentioned). I'd feel bad for the Pac-12 because, u like the SEC, they have integrity, but as a Big Ten man, I'd be thrilled.
As an SEC man, an Aggie myself, my only worry is conferences like the B1G 10 or SEC taking in more teams and watering down the conferences. I like Texas and OU joining the SEC, and SC and UCLA joining the B1G. Those programs, aside from OU, might not have been very competitive here lately, but they bring rich winning historic legacies that will always rebuild and become powerhouses again at some point.
They’ll have DC too through Maryland lol
You Must Be Joking!! Other than Michigan, which BTW look it up USC & UCLA Are Far Better Schools Academically. Get your facts straight.
@@antoniosaxon8605 Not joking at all. USC and UCA are close to Michigan, but not quite. You're thinking of Cal and Stanford as being academically superior.
@@Tom-kq3ng and Philadelphia via Penn State. Now if they cam get Cal and Stanford, they'd add San Francisco and have all of the seven most powerful urban areas in the US.
Between college football and professional golf this is a dark time for sports. Money is ruining everything.
Unconscionable that USC and UCLA would phuck over their conference and the the other Pac 12 schools
This will make for better football week in and week out.
Rich takes are always so mediocre. First off, Penn State does always play Michigan State as their last game, OSU, and Michigan. OSU always plays PSU, UM, and MSU. Yea the divisions aren’t totally even but he made it seem like Michigan gets a tougher schedule than OSU and PSU, which isn’t true. Also, he acts like you can walk from Norman to Gainesville, or from Austin to Lexington. That’s traveling too
I hate this. Thanks for being critical and speaking the truth Rich!
This isn't about student athletes and it sure isn't about fans.
At times like this...................There is NOBODY better than Rich Eisen !!!!
I do some work for the Pac-12 and have been with them for 15 year. This is breaking my heart and I hope it does not happen. Tradition is dead if So Cal leaves the Pac-12, original members of the Pac-8.
The administrators pulling the strings don’t give a crap about tradition or legacy, they just want a new yacht man. I’m fine either way, I don’t really give a crap about some olds from the 60s and 70s. Give me NFL lite baby, that way we get to see the big boys clobber each other in the field more often.
Did your heart also break when the big 12 got picked apart or did you enjoy watching that conference get gutted?
What are you talking about? OU and Texas moving to the SEC is "1st Step in the Creation of a College Football Super League"
I wonder if Texas A&M leaked this, 😆
The NCAA should've never allowed conference championship games, and instead implemented a 4 or 8 team playoff 30 years ago.
How about a super academic athletic conference with Stanford, Duke, Vanderbilt, Northwestern, Michigan, Notre Dame, UC Berkeley [Cal], UCLA, Washington? Where student athletes would actually be students.
Why would Washington be in that league?
@@johnnyd3155 Times World Rankings 2022: Stanford [4], UC Berkeley [8], UCLA [20], Duke [23], Northwestern [24], Michigan [24], University of Washington [29], Vanderbilt [113], Notre Dame [183].
@@jeremiahpattillo2932 OK, good for Washington.
I’d watch it!
I'd do one with basketball prestige instead, forming a league with DUKE, UNC, Kansas, Arizona, Baylor, Villanova, Syracuse, etc. and if Oregon doesn't get picked up by a major conference, then they get an invite as well, this angle is better for viewership
So when Maryland joined big 10 in I think 2003, some said what team will do it next, Maryland is not anywhere close to big 10 teams. For others, it was no big deal, nothing gonna come out of it. To now, money is the motivation for everything, don't you dare tell me inner beauty matters, be true to yourself, be kind to your fellow men, because it's not true.
Maryland went to the big 10 in 2013 I think
You are off by 9 years. They joined in 2012.
If the full re-alignment comes down as everyone is expecting, and Big 10 goes to roughly 20 teams, wouldn’t be surprised at all to see Rutgers and Maryland get bumped out, so that there is room for Oregon/Wash/Stanford and maybe a Cincy to join up. Rest of PAC 12 merges with remainder of Big 12 to become a super Mid-Major.
That’s what I’m kind of thinking. They should join and become the ACC of the west, the PCC or WCC. That’ll leave 2 powerhouse conferences and 2 “could” be competitive conferences. Football wise.
They're not bumping out anyone. You can't just kick schools out of the conference. They wanted Rutgers and MD for thr NYC and DC markets.
@@FAITHandLOGIC if they could, I’d trade out for Rutgers and Maryland for Oregon and Washington. Oregon is ranked at estimated 26th most watched, Washington at 28th, while Maryland is 54th and Rutgers 75th. Regardless of what market they play in, Oregon and Washington pull in way more viewers. Money wise, it’s a no brainer.
They wont bump Rutgers, they want that NY media money
@@somedudenamedryan Great point, then you have the 3 largest media markets solely in your conference. Didn’t even think of that. Well played.
I'm here for all of it.
2 super conferences that are separated by North and South
That's the way as the Sun Belt is growing and the established teams of the MidWest and East can matchup.
Best thing to do is to establish a system right away. Just go to a 2 conference system, Big10 and SEC both get approx 30 teams, place them in divisions that r close in proximity so teams aren’t traveling a bunch. Unfortunately, we all know none of this will happen and we’re gonna through a 20 years process of teams slowly being picked off from conferences. This will cause teams like USC to have to travel out East 3-4 times a year. They shouldn’t have moved unless they knew Oregon, Wash, Utah and 1 other were coming. Although these administrators talk, maybe they do know it’s coming
I remember hearing ab the super league a while ago never realized it would be come true seems like it might.
Soccer fans absolutely didn’t want it.
@@dancegregorydance6933 for soccer it makes no sense football I kinda get it 😂😂😂🤣
You’ve got the Super League thing wrong. Those clubs were not planning to leave the Premier League, they were going to leave the Champions League and create a new continental competition.
This is bad for SC and UCLA cuz the dreaded west coast to east coast travel, 3 hr earlier time difference is real.
yeup....dude thats so bad
Imagine usc or ucla's potential schedule for a 3 or 4 week period. Week 1: usc at Penn st. Week 2 usc home game vs Iowa, Week 3 usc at Rutgers. Week 4 usc home vs Nebraska. That would be ridiculous. Hopefully if they are smart, they work the schedule out where the far west teams will play at Rutgers one week and then at Penn st the next. But idk how schooling will play into that.
So is it back to Pac 10 now?
Michigan/USC is going to be a huge game every year.
thuggball
The PAC-12 and Big-12 shoulda joined forces once Texas and OU jumped ship. Now college football lost its regional charm and ability to sustain smaller programs through confrence tradition. It’s heart breaking honestly
Tradition and geography are just completely out the window now because of both the SEC move and now especially this. Little did anybody realize that Texas A&M and Missouri would be the start of more stuff just not making any sense with nonsense conference movements that are all about money.
I am sure the Big 10/16 will be going to a division less conference with the 1+3 model (similar to pods). Similar to the ACC's new model.
Wow thank you for actually knowing anything about the big ten these jokers think it's a ten team conference
What about Hawaii? It's 3100 miles from Honolulu to Albuquerque NM to play in conference.