nWo Souled Out 1997 Review | Wrestling With Wregret

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  • čas přidán 23. 01. 2019
  • It's considered to be one of the worst PPVs in the history of WCW ... and this week, Brian Zane takes a closer look at the New World Order's attempt to go solo! It's nWo Souled Out 1997! Nominate classic shows for Brian to review by becoming a patron! / wrestlingwithwregret
    05:53 Masahiro Chono vs. Chris Jericho
    11:24 Mexican Death Match: Big Bubba vs. Hugh Morrus
    13:43 Jeff Jarrett vs. Mr. Wallstreet
    15:54 Buff Bagwell vs. Scotty Riggs
    17:31 Diamond Dallas Page vs. Scott Norton
    19:31 WCW Tag Team Championships: The Outsiders vs. The Steiner Brothers
    21:45 United States Championship: Eddie Guerrero vs. Syxx
    25:30 WCW Championship: Hollywood Hogan vs. The Giant
    28:54 Final Thoughts
    D*CK KICK CITY, THE HIGH FLYERS & MORE!
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  • @CavinLee
    @CavinLee Před 4 lety +439

    Everyone getting the nWo music is like when you’re playing career mode and you run into the person who you got your entrance music from

    • @chrisbutler1668
      @chrisbutler1668 Před 2 lety +15

      At least they realized after awhile that the jobbers in the nWo needed their own theme in order to let the crowd know that none of the stars would be in the match.
      But that guitar riff still gives me PTSD flashbacks to bad WCW matches that would always end with the nWo jobbers interfering in every nWo match, resulting in a disqualification and no one getting over.

    • @EyeDyeGrys
      @EyeDyeGrys Před 2 lety +4

      Lmfao tru

    • @NotThatJonesShow
      @NotThatJonesShow Před 2 lety +9

      @@chrisbutler1668 almost all of those interferences were to save Hogan the embarrassment of a loss as well fucking Hogan ruined that arc not at first but it's downfall started from his refusal to put people over

    • @Mr_Leo_DS
      @Mr_Leo_DS Před 2 lety +2

      That's why I always use generic music, I try to find the least generic sounding and go for it

    • @CavinLee
      @CavinLee Před 2 lety +1

      @@Mr_Leo_DS sameeeeeee

  • @sheriffkimbo
    @sheriffkimbo Před 5 lety +334

    "It's nowhere near as bad as heel Michael Cole"
    Taken out of context and put in most situations, that's still 100% accurate.

    • @madgunsamalgamated9569
      @madgunsamalgamated9569 Před 5 lety +13

      Nothing is or was as bad as Michael Cole.

    • @KingJaymo2k11
      @KingJaymo2k11 Před 4 lety +7

      sheriffkimbo a ruptured spleen isn’t as worse as heel Michael Cole

    • @TeemoQuinton
      @TeemoQuinton Před 4 lety +2

      @@KingJaymo2k11 nah

    • @slabpanda
      @slabpanda Před 4 lety +1

      sheriffkimbo I use that to describe anything bad

    • @thehoodrat4423
      @thehoodrat4423 Před 4 lety +1

      Holocost? No still better than heel Michael Cole

  • @PedroBenolielBonito
    @PedroBenolielBonito Před 5 lety +683

    You know, for being heels, spotlighting average-looking everyday women in a pageant as opposed to models is a pretty babyface move from today's perspective.

    • @coreylineberry8557
      @coreylineberry8557 Před 5 lety +44

      The NWO had some good.

    • @robertdecourcey6400
      @robertdecourcey6400 Před 5 lety +93

      Yeah that's exactly why its dumb though they're heels. Yet they respect women fo their personalities how dastardly.

    • @tylerdalton4406
      @tylerdalton4406 Před 5 lety +9

      They should have gotten every real good looking woman in Iowa it made no sense to me

    • @ManMonkey600
      @ManMonkey600 Před 4 lety +34

      I think this was supposed to be more like them laughing at and poking fun at average chicks or fat women. But I guess it didn't come off that way. I haven't seen this show since the PPV first aired so can't remember how sarcastic (if at all) the NWO guys were when they talked about the women.

    • @doomstadt2371
      @doomstadt2371 Před 4 lety +12

      @@tylerdalton4406 They did lol

  • @christophernicholson20
    @christophernicholson20 Před 4 lety +93

    When they said "NWO 4 life" THEY WERE NOT LYING LOL. They dragged it on for a long long time forever

    • @samclark379
      @samclark379 Před 3 lety +6

      NWO 4 Life. Because they killed NWO by overexposure.

    • @Garrettsamuel98
      @Garrettsamuel98 Před 9 měsíci

      Lolol, I don't know why but I think that comment is very funny... ☺️

  • @therealmaskedheel
    @therealmaskedheel Před 5 lety +191

    Mongo always carried around that briefcase after he joined the Horseman. It was implied that the briefcase had the money the Horseman offered Debra and Mongo to turn on Kevin Greene and become a Horseman.

    • @burtfiasco
      @burtfiasco Před 5 lety +13

      The Masked Heel Thank God someone else realizes this, I’m ashamed of Brian here.

    • @thomasjenkins7506
      @thomasjenkins7506 Před 5 lety +23

      @@burtfiasco can't really blame someone for not following the career of mongo.

    • @Andysnyc
      @Andysnyc Před 5 lety +22

      @@burtfiasco well, in Brian's defense, sometimes things fall through the cracks, like WCW's ill-fated idea of having 100+ people in the NWO

    • @micahjohnsonboxing6409
      @micahjohnsonboxing6409 Před 5 lety +1

      @@burtfiasco don't think he was watching it then.

    • @dualshock3462
      @dualshock3462 Před 5 lety +6

      The irony is that Rotunda lost after being hit with a briefcase.

  • @alexisdesmall95
    @alexisdesmall95 Před 5 lety +409

    This is also the same company that cant get lubricated mops to clean up cake.

  • @speedy932key4
    @speedy932key4 Před 5 lety +404

    It still baffles me when you consider how far guys like Chris Jericho and Eddie Guerrero would come when they left wcw, and the fact that guys like them were overlooked is mind blowing, especially when I see that happening in wwe today

    • @standardofexcellence
      @standardofexcellence Před 5 lety +26

      It's like when a pro sports team drafts a bunch of new early first round players but because they don't like inexperience they don't play them but play all veterans (has beens or status quo in wcw' s case) thus not ever consistently sustaining success

    • @handsolo1209
      @handsolo1209 Před 5 lety +40

      It's not mind blowing at all. WCW had a roster of huge stars all at the same time. Hogan is the biggest star in pro wrestling history. Savage was a huge star. Sting was WCW's icon. DDP had moved up to the main event rapidly. Goldberg was a phenomenon. Hall & Nash were huge for a couple of years. Scott Steiner was just becoming a main player. Jericho & Eddie were very talented and got lost in the shuffle. In another time they would have been used much better. None of the others like Benoit, Malenko etc were anything other than mid card guys and WWF found to their cost when they hired The Radicalz that people tuned out when they were used on top. Just because a mark like Meltzer cums in his pants for a fake fight it doesn't mean jack shit when 90% of your paying customers switch channels when these guys are on TV. Very few people (Jericho, Austin & Eddie) can genuinely feel that they had a glass ceiling in WCW. Most of them were on a glass platform that elevated them way beyond where they would have been without big stars bringing in the viewers.
      Please name all of these guys who were overlooked in WCW. Take Eddie & Jericho out of it and name anybody.

    • @CarterHayes77
      @CarterHayes77 Před 5 lety +21

      RetroAlchemist18 2000 not really baffling the main event card back than had a ton of older talent (hogan, macho, flair, piper, sting, Nash, hall, Luger etc) on big money, with big egos and they weren’t going to let some younger, smaller guys take their spots. smaller guys with different wrestling styles being in the main event picture was only starting to change in the late 90s there was a big shift once the early 00s happened. even when Guerrero joined wwe, Vince said he was small, was reluctant to give him the championship. Ultimately it was the right decision.

    • @kpllc4209
      @kpllc4209 Před 5 lety +19

      Overlooked! Jericho, Benoit, Guerrero and even Malenko were pushed from the start they became household names in WCW. Everyone had a role, the big stars were to get people to watch, and the guys previously mentioned were there to keep them watching. At this time main events were for the veterans and major angles, the matches sucked but story were ok and the undercard was always the real show.

    • @speedy932key4
      @speedy932key4 Před 5 lety +2

      KP LLC i think the reason I saw it as overlooked is mainly because Chris Jericho had to sign with the WWF to eventually become wcw champion. When you have these wrestlers who can always deliver great performances, but you still put more time into guys like hulk hogan, Kevin Nash and others, it just strikes me as odd. That's why I fucking hate the fact that Brock lesnar is universal champion, when there are so many wrestlers that are more deserving in my opinion, like Seth Rollins, Drew McIntyre and Finn balor

  • @jerryglenn5122
    @jerryglenn5122 Před 2 lety +20

    Kevin Nash talked about this event being the first major blunder in booking of the faction. He was saying how could they possibly lose matches with their own referee. I found that extremely funny as nobody in the new world order were volunteering to put over wcw talent. Nash Hall and Hogan in particular

  • @raymondhall8691
    @raymondhall8691 Před 5 lety +492

    So basically, WCW invented the selfie stick

    • @EssexAggiegrad2011
      @EssexAggiegrad2011 Před 5 lety +39

      Sonny Oono invented the selfie

    • @arashi86
      @arashi86 Před 5 lety +30

      Yes, and every girl using one to take selfies of their butts has WCW to thank

    • @plshelpmeawkdough
      @plshelpmeawkdough Před 5 lety +22

      So that explains the whole #WCW lol

    • @exodiawolfe6008
      @exodiawolfe6008 Před 5 lety +4

      @@plshelpmeawkdough haha oh shit. Mind blown.

    • @82robbiej
      @82robbiej Před 5 lety +7

      That's what I'm going with! WCW is entirely to blame!

  • @netlock5
    @netlock5 Před 5 lety +128

    I think the souled out concept would be better in 1998 or later this year when there was a conflict in the nwo especially after the Wolfpac split as a way to settle their differences inside of the family the same way the mafia does like the sopranos

    • @andresgc770
      @andresgc770 Před 5 lety +22

      I was thinking the same thing, but didn't the Wolfpac start in like mid 1998? So Souled Out 1999 would've been the first one since the split (unless they changed the month of Souled Out to June or later).
      Still, I 100% agree with you that an nWo vs nWo PPV could've worked. Though they would've had to make the Wolfpac bigger, since there were only like 6 of them, while the Black & White faction had like 60 members...

    • @mistanderson
      @mistanderson Před 4 lety +3

      Still would've been wack

  • @heracrossplays
    @heracrossplays Před 5 lety +159

    The nWo... A classic example of what happens when you fix something till it breaks.

  • @IanNewYashaTheFinalAct
    @IanNewYashaTheFinalAct Před 5 lety +75

    Instead of getting cold barebone entrances, WCW wrestlers should've been given Shockmaster entrances: they have to run through a wall wearing a stormtrooper helmet and trip over it

  • @westnile21
    @westnile21 Před 5 lety +44

    I always hated Nick Patrick. He reminds me of Danny McBride (the guy who plays Kenny Powers) except you wanna punch him every time you see him and his mullet.

    • @TheBraunMachine2011
      @TheBraunMachine2011 Před 5 lety +1

      lol

    • @Godlike_Virus
      @Godlike_Virus Před 5 lety +2

      Nick Patrick and "Dangerous" Danny Davis. Two most punchable refs ever.

    • @MasterAdam100
      @MasterAdam100 Před 4 lety +4

      Patrick was actually a really good ref all things considered. He was a hateable heel and that was the point.
      Nick Patrick for Hall of Fame!

  • @TheMacabreTavern
    @TheMacabreTavern Před 5 lety +19

    I half expected Josh Matthews and Road Dogg to pop up and say, "WCW ruined selfie sticks."

  • @toptenguy1
    @toptenguy1 Před 5 lety +33

    15:58 : "The American Males explode!" That sounded MUCH more lewd than it was intended to be, I'm sure. :D

    • @dickmarx1298
      @dickmarx1298 Před 4 lety

      Lol innuendo has always been a part of wrestling

  • @planescaped
    @planescaped Před 5 lety +36

    Souled Out?
    AKA the PPV where the NWO officially stopped being cool, and it really felt like Eric Bishoff was legit embezzling from Ted Turner. >__>

    • @michaelbandada9887
      @michaelbandada9887 Před 5 lety +1

      planescaped Sleazy E is busy ripping off Mr. Turner by spending all the money on projects which become legitimate flops like Souled Out

    • @revans100591
      @revans100591 Před 5 lety +5

      At this point Ted should have asked for his money back or fired Eric.

  • @joshkaid
    @joshkaid Před 5 lety +92

    I'll say this; the pseudo-Nazi imagery of Bischoff in all black at a podium giving a speech is kinda cool. It really fits the tone of nWo at the time.

    • @LeYt0nG
      @LeYt0nG Před 5 lety +7

      That scene is a classic

    • @OptimusSatanas
      @OptimusSatanas Před 3 lety +4

      @Zach S. You are aware that citizen kane came out during WW2 and some of that imagery was likely inspired by hitler/nazi propaganda?

    • @TobeyStarburst
      @TobeyStarburst Před 3 lety +1

      @@OptimusSatanas shut up nerd

    • @professionaluncle
      @professionaluncle Před 3 lety +3

      Nazis didn’t wear black the gestapo did. There are podiums everywhere. I get what you’re saying but we as a society in general just throw the word nazi around because it evokes certain imagery.

  • @funkyweapon1981
    @funkyweapon1981 Před 5 lety +27

    I remember the announcer saying "Loser" at some of the WCW dudes.

    • @samclark379
      @samclark379 Před 3 lety +4

      Pretty much every WCW guy. He even calls Eddie Guerrero a "Mexican jumping bean". That aged well. 👎

  • @billcutler9425
    @billcutler9425 Před 5 lety +55

    The American Males Explode! I'm dead. 🤣

    • @dickmarx1298
      @dickmarx1298 Před 4 lety +2

      That always got the female fans going

  • @handsolo1209
    @handsolo1209 Před 5 lety +13

    15:03 Debra drags Mongo to ringside. Mongo is carrying the briefcase. "Who's briefcase was that? Where did he get it from?" - Brian "Sherlock" Zane 2019

  • @mgunter
    @mgunter Před 5 lety +152

    Chono v. Jericho, a dream match that most people didn't know happened in WCW.

    • @TheeGlocktopus
      @TheeGlocktopus Před 5 lety

      Helen been Hella Hacked

    • @fexhaitchiii6530
      @fexhaitchiii6530 Před 5 lety +2

      Bc it sucked

    • @eltornadoAfm
      @eltornadoAfm Před 5 lety

      Always a good match on firepro wrestling 6 man scramble, but not on an actual ppv

    • @ColeYote
      @ColeYote Před 5 lety +9

      In fairness, it was WCW Chono. Don't think he had one good singles match for Ted Turner.

    • @4sername
      @4sername Před 5 lety

      Jericho and dream match do not ever belong in the same sentence.

  • @cjthehaasman9954
    @cjthehaasman9954 Před 5 lety +47

    How is it a mexican Deathmatch.....When theres literally not even a Reference to anything mexican at all?

    • @Supervillain725
      @Supervillain725 Před 5 lety +5

      I think Hugh Morris made fun of Mexicans a few times. Does that count?

    • @thekidfromiowa
      @thekidfromiowa Před 5 lety +1

      Since simply renaming the match was too hard. :D

    • @buhbuhjaychampagne1706
      @buhbuhjaychampagne1706 Před 5 lety

      christopher haas Konan was supposed to wrestle, not Big Bubba. But he wasn’t able to make it to the match. So they went to plan B.

    • @maxdecphoenix
      @maxdecphoenix Před 5 lety +2

      in the same way you can have a lumber-jack match w/o axes.

    • @nightmarerealms5372
      @nightmarerealms5372 Před 5 lety

      @@maxdecphoenix or a Texas Tornado match in Baltimore

  • @travantiwilson5369
    @travantiwilson5369 Před 5 lety +103

    Man, you do the best pro wrestling pay per view reviews...keep them coming.

    • @Nogardo
      @Nogardo Před 5 lety +11

      Travanti Wilson psssst, he’s good but you should give OSW review a try 😉

    • @unclejemima83
      @unclejemima83 Před 5 lety

      bryan and vinny are best!

    • @nuckweise
      @nuckweise Před 5 lety +7

      I would give that accolade to OSW but hes pretty good.

    • @nilomercado5362
      @nilomercado5362 Před 5 lety

      P

    • @SiuMiuCJ
      @SiuMiuCJ Před 5 lety

      I watched all of them multiple times.

  • @corykeaton3126
    @corykeaton3126 Před 5 lety +14

    Fun fact: Masahiro Chono was also born an American in Seattle, Washington

    • @mcgannahanskyjellyfetti6854
      @mcgannahanskyjellyfetti6854 Před 4 lety +4

      Does that mean that the crowd was ACTUALLY cheering for BOTH those 🇺🇲ALL AMERICAN🇺🇲 wrestlers in that match? 🤔

  • @jonathancampbell5231
    @jonathancampbell5231 Před 5 lety +16

    I remember an old Big Show interview where he mentioned he used to jump off the top rope a lot and I got the impression the reason he always missed was out of safety concerns- i.e. they were worried he might actually hurt someone if he did.

  • @austinbaker6186
    @austinbaker6186 Před 5 lety +92

    The nwo b team music is already in my head

  • @Selfloathingmisanthrope
    @Selfloathingmisanthrope Před 5 lety +23

    I remember my Grampa ordered me this ppv when I spent the weekend at his house as a kid, and it being very mediocre all around (production, work, commentary, etc.) with the lone exception being the Eddy Guerrero v Sean Waltman ladder match.

  • @TheNaturalPatHarris
    @TheNaturalPatHarris Před 5 lety +25

    Riding in on Garbage Trucks wasn’t a good look....

    • @DasNordlicht91
      @DasNordlicht91 Před 5 lety +10

      Made for a good metaphor for the eventual fate of WCW, though.

    • @TheBraunMachine2011
      @TheBraunMachine2011 Před 5 lety +1

      ikr? good metaphor for the show for the most part though lol aside from eddie vs syxx.

    • @madgunsamalgamated9569
      @madgunsamalgamated9569 Před 5 lety

      So that's where The Walking Dead got it from.

  • @nicwinsteadart5330
    @nicwinsteadart5330 Před 5 lety +83

    Would you ever do the TNA Monday night "war"?

    • @poopsyko
      @poopsyko Před 5 lety +17

      What war?TNA drew such shit ratings that they went back to thursday after people blinked

    • @PlantsAndBlink
      @PlantsAndBlink Před 5 lety +4

      Would love this

    • @micahjohnsonboxing6409
      @micahjohnsonboxing6409 Před 5 lety +14

      I think that should be part of a video on the Hogan takeover of TNA.

    • @robinblake5054
      @robinblake5054 Před 5 lety +9

      Much as I like TNA/Impact Wrestling, there was no way they could compete with WWE on Monday. They should have stuck to Thursday nights and built their show on being an alternative rather than competition.

    • @nicwinsteadart5330
      @nicwinsteadart5330 Před 5 lety +1

      Lakers fan a few months actually from March to May I think

  • @testure1982
    @testure1982 Před 4 lety +15

    This was a hilarious review. Have just discovered this channel and am really enjoying the reviews of these nostalgic events. Liked and subscribed.

  • @slycooper04
    @slycooper04 Před 5 lety +13

    @29:00 watch as Brian Zane channels his inner "AVGN"

  • @thomashawkins5320
    @thomashawkins5320 Před 5 lety +22

    What's crazy is that Sean Waltman has said a few times that he hated his match with Eddie Guerrero. I think it's actually a really good ladder match and probably the best match of the night. Terrible PPV but the ladder match was really good.

  • @mattjones5531
    @mattjones5531 Před 4 lety +3

    For as much as everyone complains about WWE shoving things down our throat, I feel like they never do it as bad as WCW did with the nWo. The group lasted around 6 years ('96-'02), had 8 iterations (Original, Hollywood, Wolfpac, Elite, Black & White, 2000, Japan and WWE) having a total of 62 members(at one point having Jeff Jarrett as the leader), one nWo themed Pay Per View (this one), 39 total Championship won (7 being the WCW World heavyweight championship) and 3 video games featuring nWo in the title (WCW/nWo World Tour, Revenge and Thunder).

  • @wstine79
    @wstine79 Před 5 lety +288

    New new new World Order! :::guitar riffs:::

  • @SuperNitroZ64
    @SuperNitroZ64 Před rokem +6

    I wish ladder matches could go back to having only one ladder.

  • @rokudamia2767
    @rokudamia2767 Před 5 lety +16

    8:05 Chono was also born in Seattle

  • @bigbartoloscards7743
    @bigbartoloscards7743 Před 5 lety +45

    The briefcase was supposed to be macho mans alimony money to Elizabeth that the 4 horsemen gave to mongo for payment to turn on kevin green and become a 4 horsemen.

    • @Fixxer315
      @Fixxer315 Před 5 lety +4

      Although the Benoit/Sullivan match is hard to watch these days (for obvious reasons), it is still entertaining thanks to Dusty's over-the-top commentary. "THERE'S A LADY IN THE MEN'S BATHROOM!!!"

    • @maxdecphoenix
      @maxdecphoenix Před 5 lety +3

      i remember watching WCW back then and wondering wtf Mongo carried around that case, if you hadn't seen the PPV (which we couldn't always afford) no one every really did a call-back about it. Mystery solved 30-years later. #coldcasefiles

    • @pantheonvideo
      @pantheonvideo Před 5 lety

      Wait, wasn't Marsellus Wallace's soul in that briefcase? Isn't that why the PPV was called Souled Out? Am I confusing 90s wrestling with 90s films again? WHERE'S MY PILLS?

    • @dickmarx1298
      @dickmarx1298 Před 4 lety

      Jesus that's convoluted

  • @cinemawiz8742
    @cinemawiz8742 Před 4 lety +8

    I respect how you refer to the wrestlers by the name they used during the show as opposed to their current names with WWE. For example: referring to Big Show as Giant.

  • @kyleshiflet7932
    @kyleshiflet7932 Před 5 lety +119

    Souled out should've been called nWo Dumpster Fire

    • @Sammy4549
      @Sammy4549 Před 5 lety +21

      How appropriate they showed up in garbage trucks.

    • @kyleshiflet7932
      @kyleshiflet7932 Před 5 lety +4

      @@Sammy4549 yup kinda of an FUCK YOU FANS YOU'RE ABOUT TO SEE SHITTY WRESTLING

    • @Sammy4549
      @Sammy4549 Před 5 lety

      Kind of curious then why they didn't come to the arena in sanitation trucks.

    • @kyleshiflet7932
      @kyleshiflet7932 Před 5 lety

      @@Sammy4549 I actually couldn't give you an answer for that

    • @ghostchlamydia
      @ghostchlamydia Před 5 lety

      Got em

  • @AKImeru
    @AKImeru Před 5 lety +91

    Fun fact: Both Jericho and Chono were born in USA.

    • @wright5328
      @wright5328 Před 5 lety +5

      not a fun fact for Jericho maybe Chrono

    • @AKImeru
      @AKImeru Před 5 lety +10

      @@supersasukemaniac About as Gaijin as Rikidozan as in, not treated as such by NJPW.

    • @futuregohan4837
      @futuregohan4837 Před 5 lety +3

      @@supersasukemaniac Undertaker Can Be Considered An Gaijin

    • @davidquinn2382
      @davidquinn2382 Před 4 lety +2

      Hey Springfield, so was yokozuna

    • @davidquinn2382
      @davidquinn2382 Před 4 lety +7

      @David Irving or prefer their pickles cucumbered.

  • @sebastianstruck461
    @sebastianstruck461 Před 3 lety +3

    Another great review. 👌
    Jericho and Chono had a match at Nitro which led to this match at PPV.
    Hugh Morrus (replacing Konnan) taking on Bubba was logic because Bubba was a Dungeon member before becoming a nWo member.
    Mongo had a briefcase because it was given him by the Horsemen when he turned on Kevin Green at GAB'96. The story with Debra was that she liked Jeff Jarrett and wanted to help him with Mongo being angry about it, but Debra talked him into helping Jarrett.
    Eddie won the US belt in a tournament final at Starrcade'96 against DDP and was then attacked by the nWo, Syxx stole the belt.

  • @anthonysamuels7393
    @anthonysamuels7393 Před 5 lety +9

    I remember this pay-per-view this was the only WCW Pay-Per-View was not on VHS

  • @saskruffriders8234
    @saskruffriders8234 Před 5 lety +15

    I like the idea of a faction creating their own ppv. Yes, they put in a lot of excess. But I’m not going to lie: I thought Nick Patrick was the best part of this show. The way he was SO biased and he’d get so annoyed whenever an nWo guy lost was so comical. The mic guy was gold too. Loser!

  • @mike1975a
    @mike1975a Před 4 lety +5

    The biggest myth in wrestling is that Eric Buschoff had any ability as a producer. He has made a career of making people think he knows what he is talking about, but this show exposes him.

  • @thatoneguyyoulove4512
    @thatoneguyyoulove4512 Před 5 lety +20

    These are one of my favorite type of videos along with the promotion graveyard

  • @gluesniffer2
    @gluesniffer2 Před 5 lety +38

    Don't let Bichoff fool you, the women in that contest were to prettiest they could find in Cedar Rapids and before someone from Iowa chimes in, yes I live in Iowa.

    • @ronaldmccain1181
      @ronaldmccain1181 Před 5 lety +2

      You joking

    • @jrcarter9175
      @jrcarter9175 Před 5 lety +2

      I'd hate to see the ugly ones.

    • @Ramblebar
      @Ramblebar Před 5 lety +2

      Ehhh some of the ladies in The Miss NWO weren't that bad looking and a couple were kind of cute a sort of a girl down the street kind of thing,I am not from Iowa by the way(from Colorado)!!!

    • @takerdust
      @takerdust Před 5 lety

      Same goes with Des Moines. Or anywhere in Iowa.

    • @bazookajoe2889
      @bazookajoe2889 Před 5 lety

      I’d smash the 2 obvious ones

  • @drewvonawesome8851
    @drewvonawesome8851 Před 5 lety +9

    That was the thing about this whole "NWO getting their own show" thing I never understood. Because that would mean either the NWO would just keep fighting WCW guys on it. Or they'd have to wrestle each other. Like what exactly would be the plan with this? Because frankly neither of those possibilities sound like they'd be self sustainable.

    • @Patch778
      @Patch778 Před 2 lety +2

      I always imagine it as a brand split, with the New World Order becoming just a new show with its own Internal championships, Heels and Faces, and fueds.

    • @honoratagold
      @honoratagold Před 16 dny

      I think the only way it works is if you keep the nwo small -- like, nash, hall, hulk, bischoff, dibiase as the "bankroller" and maybe like one other guy. this first ppv is them auditioning wrestlers to be on their show/to be the last guy who officially joins the group instead of just being approved of by them. the show should have some kind of genuine differences in style compared to the wcw branded stuff, and the nwo/wcw brand could battle/invade from time-to-time. I think it still has a really limited shelf-life, but you could probably get more out of it than what they actually did. You could still do a nwo/wolfpac split here if you wanted i guess.
      they just got so caught up in making the nwo seem "cool" that they forgot to think about the fact that the nwo are a faction on a wrestling show.

  • @Jose-yy4yo
    @Jose-yy4yo Před 5 lety +6

    23:00 That drop kick on the ladder by X-Pac to Eddie Gurrero was crazyyy

  • @fitness65
    @fitness65 Před 5 lety +23

    I remember watching this ppv on VHS and being stoked for this ppv because of some of the matches and then being disappointed with this ppv. God the finishes and matches that had no business being on this card outside of Eddie Guerrero vs syxx in a ladder match which was the best match on the card other then that what a dumpster fire of a ppv.

    • @christophernicholson20
      @christophernicholson20 Před 4 lety

      That's WCW for you. What can you expect they never had a clean finish it was always a run-in NWO or DQ

  • @timbartschwolfman
    @timbartschwolfman Před 5 lety +26

    I was thinking that there would be a review for Royal Rumble 1999

  • @therealmaskedheel
    @therealmaskedheel Před 5 lety +13

    VK Wallstreet did make sense in a way as he has a history with DiBiase who was financing the nWo.

    • @christophernicholson20
      @christophernicholson20 Před 4 lety

      Well he was managing I.R.S in wwe so it makes sense. IRS was a member of the MDM (million dollar corporation)

    • @martyklestadt6766
      @martyklestadt6766 Před 2 lety

      @@christophernicholson20 They were also tag team champions (Money Inc.) a couple of years before this in the WWF.

    • @Celticgamer89
      @Celticgamer89 Před 2 lety

      The reason that DiBiase was hired to wcw was to be the mouthpiece for the nwo

  • @dar8638
    @dar8638 Před 5 lety +5

    When the lady looks at the clown guy and says "I can't hear you."

  • @SirDawkster
    @SirDawkster Před 2 lety +3

    Rest in peace, Scott Hall.

  • @1stylishdevil
    @1stylishdevil Před 5 lety +6

    It took you 2 days to review this show? Bless your soul, Brian.

  • @KyleJWest-vn9kn
    @KyleJWest-vn9kn Před 5 lety +8

    I always thought the idea of making the nWo it's own brand was interesting but this highlights the inherent problem, you can only have so many heel referee spots before that gets tired. Same with DQ finishes. No way they could have changed Nitro full time into an nWo show and had any success with it.

  • @TrentonBlessWrestlemania489

    When you mentioned Mongo, I could only keep thinking "Here Comes Mongo". Yeah, this was a shitshow. There is a reason WCW is no more.

  • @timbartschwolfman
    @timbartschwolfman Před 5 lety +15

    Wrestling with Wregret 4 Life 🤘

  • @EberKlaushartinger
    @EberKlaushartinger Před 5 lety +8

    The Briefcase was from the 4 Horsemen!

  • @NOBDY444
    @NOBDY444 Před 5 lety +1

    love your videos bro, still hands down my favorite CZcams channel!! Keep winning brain and hope you have your own wrestling Tv series one day

  • @PastorJeremyRobison
    @PastorJeremyRobison Před 5 lety +24

    This review - A+. Hahahahaha! Can't stop laughing about how much you hated this ppv.

    • @Hi-kq1vi
      @Hi-kq1vi Před 5 lety

      Nash gave it a great review as well. czcams.com/video/hi4a_SONMnY/video.html

  • @gossamer1234
    @gossamer1234 Před 5 lety +13

    i was so sad for Randy Anderson :(

  • @PhatGirlLuvr68Comix
    @PhatGirlLuvr68Comix Před 5 lety +3

    "The F is for Fuck This Show " Don't ever change, Zane.

  • @wendigo1619
    @wendigo1619 Před 4 lety +5

    Scott Steiner was already a huge man before the roids, see no point in him doing them

  • @theluckiesteh9058
    @theluckiesteh9058 Před 5 lety +5

    Souled Out '97.... God, what a piece of Holy Shit.... X'C

  • @timbartschwolfman
    @timbartschwolfman Před 5 lety +41

    Sweet a new Classic PPV Review

  • @donhill1825
    @donhill1825 Před 5 lety +3

    A heel *REF* , the same heel ref for every single match?! How was that supposed to work? Wtf were they thinking?

  • @divad522
    @divad522 Před 5 lety +4

    I don't know if anybody has mentioned it but I think the whole thing with the U.S. Title was Syxx had the belt because before The Giant was kicked out of the NWO he stole it from Ric Flair but Flair got injured an couldn't compete or get the belt back so WCW had a US title tournament at Starrcage 96. Eddie beat DDP at Starrcade but the NWO stole the replacement U.S. belt that kinda looked like the Cruiserweight title. I only bring it up because I've been binge watching WCW PPVs starting at Bash at the Beach 96. What's weird is I watched this last night not even knowing Brian was going to review it or I forgot he said he would at the end of the last PPV Review.

  • @FightingForceSoulless
    @FightingForceSoulless Před 5 lety +10

    I just love the concept of heel referees, counting slow and fast, depending on the status.
    Heck, even a babyface can do that, Ambrose when he was refereeing Creepazoid Ellsworth and AJ Styles matches.
    I need more of that.

  • @ArcanaMaxima
    @ArcanaMaxima Před 5 lety +5

    15:58
    "Marcus and Scotty...they come from different worlds..."

  • @youdontknowjack6682
    @youdontknowjack6682 Před 5 lety +4

    The briefcase in JJs match was taken by Bossman and is the same one he raised during KotR 1999

  • @backup368
    @backup368 Před 5 lety +7

    A few days ago I listened to Bischoff & Conrad Thompson's podcast 83 Weeks & they talked about this show too.
    Bischoff says he insisted on old & ugly women for this event because they were "real and believable". Even though nWo was meant to be raunchier.

    • @drewvonawesome8851
      @drewvonawesome8851 Před 5 lety

      Judging by the end of the Miss NWO contest, I'm more willing to believe Eric just has a thing for much older women and won't admit to it.

  • @nickwolfe2048
    @nickwolfe2048 Před rokem +4

    This was one of the first shows I ever went to. As a almost 11 year old(birthday was the next day)it was cool to be at. Looking back at it now it was terrible.

    • @edward66703
      @edward66703 Před 8 měsíci

      Nice how was it live compared to watching it back?

  • @alexisdesmall95
    @alexisdesmall95 Před 4 lety +3

    The suitcase was Mongo's. It was his payment to turn on Kevin Green and join the Horseman.

  • @benmac6147
    @benmac6147 Před 5 lety +2

    Back in the day, I remember watching this event on a German satellite TV channel as no channel here in the UK showed WCW PPVs & they never released this event on VHS either.

  • @RoyStantz
    @RoyStantz Před 5 lety +4

    Well Zane, since you have plans to review Starrcade 1997 in the near future, you're also gonna have to review the 1997 Hulk Hogan film Assault on Devil's Island, which was directed by Jon Cassar, and co-executive produced by Eric Bischoff and Michael Berk (of Baywatch and Thunder in Paradise fame).
    Why? Well, in the weeks leading up to that film's premiere, Bischoff encouraged viewers of Monday Nitro to watch the film by staging the long-awaited contract signing between Hogan and Sting for Starrcade during the commercial breaks.
    As a result of this, Assault on Devil's Island actually did pretty well on its first showing, drawing a 4.2 rating against the WWF's retrospective on the first ten years of Survivor Series (which drew a 2.8).
    One week later on Nitro, Bischoff crowed about the rating, claiming that TNT executives had promised to make a 23-episode television show, if the film drew over a 4.0 rating which it did. But, they didn't make a series, though they did make a sequel entitled Assault on Death Mountain (which you should also review some other time in the future), airing on TNT two years later.

  • @crediblepodcast5932
    @crediblepodcast5932 Před 5 lety +3

    Mongo always carried the briefcase around, it was the one that Debra brought out to him at GAB when he joined the Horsemen.

  • @velvetpilot2008
    @velvetpilot2008 Před 2 lety +9

    28:13 Hollywood Hogan playing the belt like a guitar will always be my favorite Hogan pose. It's hilarious in its cheesiness. I respect Hogan more after hearing The Giant on podcasts talk about how Hogan brought him in and put him over.

  • @akamiguelsanchez9985
    @akamiguelsanchez9985 Před 3 lety +1

    ‘Eric Bischoff likes motorcycles’ was WCW’s business plan in the 90s

  • @robbiesilverwolf
    @robbiesilverwolf Před 3 lety +2

    Mongo’s briefcase came from when the four horsemen had a tag team match with Mongo and Kevin Greene. The finish of that match was the four horsemen paid of Mongo to join the four horsemen. Ever since then they involved the briefcase in every match that involved Mongo in some way since then

  • @jcace13
    @jcace13 Před 5 lety +4

    "The peak shit." - Brian Zane 2019

  • @mickmickymick6927
    @mickmickymick6927 Před 2 lety +3

    I think Mongo's briefcase is from when he first came to WCW, he was offered a briefcase full of money or something, and then started using it in every match to knock people out.

    • @Millwall77
      @Millwall77 Před rokem +1

      To turn on Kevin Greene and join the horsemen yes.

  • @Jame5man
    @Jame5man Před 3 měsíci +1

    8:03
    Old video but I feel an explanation is still warranted. Chris Jericho’s father, Ted Irvine, played left wing for the NHL’s New York Rangers and is a Winnipeg native. In fact both his parents are Canadian. The only reason he was born in New York at all was because his dad played hockey there.

  • @daddydeads
    @daddydeads Před rokem +2

    My parents got this PPV for me for my 10th birthday! Which was a big deal back then. They had to go get the box from Mediacom and all. I know it sucked, but I have fond memories.

  • @TheBrodRoad
    @TheBrodRoad Před 5 lety +3

    I sometimes feel like I’m the only one that actually likes the concept of nWo Souled Out. (Not how the PPV turned out, just the concept.) I mean, we’ve seen the storyline time and again about how villains try to conquer literally everything and fail miserably. Hell, even Vince McMahon couldn’t successfully banish Stone Cold from WWF and he didn’t even try to run an entire PPV dedicated to his Corporation faction or something (although he did win a Royal Rumble...).
    This PPV actually threw itself into the “Evil won!” gimmick. I liked how everything was under villain control: arena design, production control, ring introductions, referees, etc. I feel like Souled Out could’ve been done right, but instead we got what we got.

    • @toadysp
      @toadysp Před 5 lety +1

      Actually I really agree. This actually has one of my favorite themes and aesthetics of any PPV. I just wish that the actual show and the matches could have lived up to the concept.

  • @seanwjones07
    @seanwjones07 Před 5 lety +7

    Here for the Biker Mommas! Woooooooo0o0o0o0o0o0o0!!!

    • @IanNewYashaTheFinalAct
      @IanNewYashaTheFinalAct Před 5 lety +1

      The Miss nWo pageant explains why I've had a biker MILF fetish this entire time lol

  • @chaosbringer82
    @chaosbringer82 Před 2 lety +1

    has it occurred to you that the reason the Giant always missed his top rope moves in WCW was because nobody wanted to take them

  • @dylanstakely
    @dylanstakely Před 5 lety +1

    Been looking forward to this ever since you announced it in the last Classic Review. One of the few shows still on VHS somewhere deep in a closet at my mom's house...wish it as a better show. However, I have always been a fan of the ladder match. I don't remember watching it as it aired, seeing as I was only two days old 😂

  • @evanrules3635
    @evanrules3635 Před 5 lety +3

    Great video always puts a smile on my face

  • @maddix17
    @maddix17 Před 5 lety +5

    I guess you really do have that jacket in every color

  • @Hotsaucedeluxe
    @Hotsaucedeluxe Před 5 lety +4

    I like that Bischoff had to force himself to make out with those 3s.

  • @ericshepperd4823
    @ericshepperd4823 Před 5 lety +2

    Great job Brian! Cant wait for RR 2000. Please show Takas faceplant lol

  • @bensonnick169
    @bensonnick169 Před 5 lety +4

    1st Like!! Been waiting a while for this one lol. Thanks for more great content, Brian!!

  • @RickAintStoned
    @RickAintStoned Před 5 lety +3

    Miss NWO was awarded a lifetime supply of beer and cigarettes.

  • @TheRedBaron1917
    @TheRedBaron1917 Před 5 lety +2

    Sometimes I got pinch myself and ask "Is this real? Did this REALLY happen??? Who thought this was a good idea??? This was an ACTUAL PAY PER VIEW like wcw charged money to watch this thing? I've been meaning to ask if you were gonna cover this ever since I watched the Bryan and Vinny video. Like forget about saving wcw its a miracle they even made it into the 21st century. What an absolute mess. Thank you BZ for taking one for the team and actually sitting through this.

  • @dannydorko7075
    @dannydorko7075 Před 5 lety

    Really looking forward to your review of Royal Rumble 2000. I think I may have commented about it before but when I was a kid I didn't have access to WWF until 1999. I would hear friends talk about the show all the time at school and I was insanely jealous! I was only able to watch Smackdown on a Saturday morning and not Raw but I absolutely loved it, despite it being censored. Then in 2000 they showed Royal Rumble 2000 for free on British TV late at night and it was the first PPV I'd seen live and I cannot tell you how excited I was to see it, couldn't stop talking about it the next day at school.

  • @vtmiller63
    @vtmiller63 Před 5 lety +19

    Only about an hour or so from Davenport to Cedar Rapids. I wonder if a young Colby Lopez was in attendance?

    • @standardofexcellence
      @standardofexcellence Před 5 lety +4

      He's saying I can wrestle better than 2/3rds the roster...and he was right

  • @Penguindude1
    @Penguindude1 Před 5 lety +3

    Oh hey I loved the Souled Out arena in WCW/NWO Revenge, and the theme from that game was good too.

  • @russybcool
    @russybcool Před 4 lety

    Forgive me if this has already been mentioned but at 3:10 is that former tna announcer and current wwe backstage guy Jeremy borash in the crowd?

  • @TravJam317
    @TravJam317 Před 2 lety +1

    Rewatching this. You want to know where Mongo got the briefcase? He carried it around everywhere after joining the Horsemen. It's like asking where Jimmy Hart got the megaphone or Jim Cornette got the tennis racket. I was just his gimmick at the time.

  • @WilltheHam
    @WilltheHam Před 5 lety +3

    Is that Jeremy Borash in the crowd at 3:05?