WCW Chi Town Rumble 1989 Review | Wrestling With Wregret

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    On the latest Classic PPV review, Brian looks back at the beginning of the epic rivalry between Ric Flair & Ricky Steamboat over the NWA Worlds Title ... it's WCW Chi-Town Rumble 1989! Nominate a classic show by becoming a Patron! / wrestlingwithwregret
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    06:01 Sting vs. Butch Reed
    10:03 The Original Midnight Express & Paul E. Dangerously vs. The Midnight Express & Jim Cornette
    13:27 NWA Television Championship: Rick Steiner vs. Mike Rotunda
    17:02 NWA United States Championship: Barry Windham vs. Lex Luger
    20:21 NWA World Tag Team Championship: Road Warriors vs. Varsity Club
    21:58 NWA Worlds Heavyweight Championship: Ric Flair vs. Ricky Steamboat
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  • @jcace13
    @jcace13 Před 5 lety +154

    Paul Heyman wrestling Jim Cornette is such a weird wrestling fun fact that I didn't know until today.

    • @Jay23297
      @Jay23297 Před 5 lety +12

      JC Holmanation Even more shocking is that we was 23 years old at the time. Makes him kinda look good these days

    • @johnnysizemore5797
      @johnnysizemore5797 Před 5 lety +8

      Paul Heyman(like Jim Cornette himself) has one of those faces that tend to look half their age.I myself could look in my Early 20's if i shave my beard....

    • @mcgannahanskyjellyfetti1663
      @mcgannahanskyjellyfetti1663 Před 5 lety

      Typical millennium baby... 😕

    • @johnnysizemore5797
      @johnnysizemore5797 Před 4 lety +1

      @Alsebra -- true, Heyman DOES take much better care of himself these day's than Cornette does. I personally find it ironic that the Heel in the fight(Heyman) is more "beloved by fans" nowadays than the Face(Cornette)...

    • @johnnysizemore5797
      @johnnysizemore5797 Před 4 lety +4

      @Alsebra -- i personally hated Cornette as a babyface. He just didn't have the natural attitude for it. He would've been much better as a partial Heel(certain lines he Wouldn't allowed to be crossed but still a bribable Official), even in TNA. He'dve been much better at it than Dixie Carter ever was, imho....

  • @venod3134
    @venod3134 Před 5 lety +260

    Old NWA is so underrated. You should do an entire series on the NWA era

    • @KEICRUMBIE
      @KEICRUMBIE Před 5 lety +17

      It was the best organization ever, especially in the 80s. World Class second.

    • @weworldwide1348
      @weworldwide1348 Před 5 lety +3

      @@KEICRUMBIE no, it wasn't.

    • @JulioHernandez-wy8nh
      @JulioHernandez-wy8nh Před 4 lety +22

      I love WCW/NWA 1983-1993 everything was better before Hogan and his goofy squad fuck everything up in 1994-1996, obviously the NWO was awesome (mid 1996-late 1997) then 1998 was just fine, 1999 was meh, late 1999 was god awful and 2000 is just the boiler room of hell and 2001 well... you know what happen in 2001

    • @johnnysizemore5797
      @johnnysizemore5797 Před 4 lety +11

      @A L'Cie-- i grew-up in the 80's and 90's watching WcW/NWA more than the WWF, and i agree with you. While 94-96 Hogan & Co. didn't do WcW any favors whatsoever, they unfortunately started going downhill shortly before he arrived so the Hulkster can't really be blamed for taking advantage of the situation, while i liked the idea of the NWO, it just got too big too fast and should've remained a four to six-man faction. ...

    • @JulioHernandez-wy8nh
      @JulioHernandez-wy8nh Před 4 lety

      @@johnnysizemore5797 preach it brother!!!

  • @FewerMiles
    @FewerMiles Před 5 lety +305

    "2 singlet type pokemon". I'm going to start using similar descriptions now.

    • @darkashtar
      @darkashtar Před 5 lety +26

      That was pretty good. The excitement is pretty equivalent to metapod vs metapod.

    • @DMofPuppets
      @DMofPuppets Před 5 lety +5

      That killed me

    • @CyrusTheFrog
      @CyrusTheFrog Před 5 lety +7

      yeah "singlet-type Pokemon" got me, well done Zane.

    • @damambinator7740
      @damambinator7740 Před 5 lety +2

      I'm fuckin' dead over here.

    • @bradcarver8127
      @bradcarver8127 Před 5 lety +6

      Metapod use harden

  • @danielmaheu7786
    @danielmaheu7786 Před 5 lety +71

    Flair won his 5th world Championship at Starcade in 1987 beating Ronnie Garvin. He defended the belt at Starcade 88 against Luger.

    • @handsolo1209
      @handsolo1209 Před 5 lety +8

      Yeah, I was racking my brain about when did Luger ever hold the NWA belt, and he never did. I can understand Brian wanting to erase Ronnie Garvin's title run from his memory though!

    • @JulioHernandez-wy8nh
      @JulioHernandez-wy8nh Před 4 lety

      Flex with Lex

    • @martyklestadt6766
      @martyklestadt6766 Před 2 lety

      @@handsolo1209 Luger did win the vacant WCW World title in 1991 after Flair left for the WWF.

    • @handsolo1209
      @handsolo1209 Před 2 lety +2

      @@martyklestadt6766 I know, but it wasn't the NWA title. The only NWA title he ever had was the US title until 1991 when they gave him the new WCW US title belt.

    • @martyklestadt6766
      @martyklestadt6766 Před 2 lety +1

      @@handsolo1209 Correct; I was just specifying. Some might have thought that he never had either one. Glad you knew.

  • @ClarenceWerly
    @ClarenceWerly Před 5 lety +107

    JR really sold Dr. Death kicking out of the double clothesline because of his history calling Dr. Death matches in Mid-South and UWF. Both being from Oklahoma didn't hurt either

    • @luisalbertoarenasaraya4579
      @luisalbertoarenasaraya4579 Před 4 lety +3

      So that is why he called him his boy? Cool to know.

    • @Thor-Orion
      @Thor-Orion Před 3 lety

      Ross is from California.

    • @PhillyBagel
      @PhillyBagel Před 3 lety +1

      It’s too bad Steve Williams wasn’t better known among casual fans. He could kick out of anything. From his Mid-South UWF days, here in WCW, and in Japan he had Hulk Hogan and Undertaker level invincibility.

    • @kev_whatev
      @kev_whatev Před 3 lety +6

      JR was as big a mark for Dr. Death as he was for another guy who was born Steve Williams a few years later

    • @Thor-Orion
      @Thor-Orion Před 3 lety +4

      @@kev_whatev bigger. He was a mark on the headset for the Stunning One because the man was THE cash cow and company savior.

  • @vtmiller63
    @vtmiller63 Před 5 lety +71

    Regardless of this particular PPV, I think the Varsity Club is an historically underrated faction (stable?).

  • @luzhyu351
    @luzhyu351 Před 5 lety +62

    23:04 Dave Meltzer marking out lmao with the afro

  • @travisgirarderickson
    @travisgirarderickson Před 5 lety +41

    My Flair/Steamboat trilogy rankings...
    1. Clash of the Champions
    2. WrestleWar
    3. Chi-town Rumble

  • @venomousnate7263
    @venomousnate7263 Před 5 lety +39

    This is a great pick. The match between Steamboat and Flair is one of my favorite old school wrestling matches.

    • @andu1854
      @andu1854 Před 5 lety +2

      Venomous Nate Flair and Steamboat both had a great 89 (with this feud being the best part of the first part of the year and Flair v Funk being a classic and Steamboat actually gets a classic out of Lugar

    • @venomousnate7263
      @venomousnate7263 Před 5 lety +1

      David Anderson Ric Flair’s best year was probably 1989. So yeah

    • @connerhuston2613
      @connerhuston2613 Před 5 lety

      In 1989 Flair and Steamboat had a great trigligy of matches. Some say the 3rd match I believe in May of that year was the best. Ironically I believe Flair said that him and Steamboat had many matches that were better but nobody saw them except those in the arena.

  • @EVGriffinJr
    @EVGriffinJr Před 5 lety +46

    I actually watched this live the night it happened! I had heard of Flair/Steamboat but this was the first time I had seen a matchup with these two. And to think of their trilogy in 1989, not counting all the house show matches they did, this was the "weakest" match of the three (the other two being at Clash Of The Champions VI and WrestleWar '89). I put that in quotation marks because "weak" for Steamboat/Flair is STILL better than most matches of today! It was a great matchup in ring and it told a story with great psychology!
    This card as a whole a pretty good but only the Steamboat/Flair along with Luger/Windham, Steiner/Rotunda and Road Warriors/Sullivan & Williams still hold up. The other matches were good for their time but definitely feel dated now. Still worth a look! Thanks for the review!

    • @princeofstrongstyle6683
      @princeofstrongstyle6683 Před 2 lety +1

      I think the term your looking for is "Least Spectacular" when describing Flair/Steamboat here although personally I'd say Wrestle War personally earns that honor. Either way it's still arguably the best trilogy in wrestling history.

    • @EVGriffinJr
      @EVGriffinJr Před 2 lety +1

      @@princeofstrongstyle6683 Everyone has their favorite from that series. But I agree, it’s one of the greatest wrestling series ever

  • @JoseTwitterFan
    @JoseTwitterFan Před 5 lety +80

    JIM CORNETTE COULD ACTUALLY WRESTLE???!!!
    MIND. BLOWN.

    • @timthegem
      @timthegem Před 5 lety +34

      It's more impressive when you consider that one of his knees had been destroyed a few years earlier in the infamous scaffold match.

    • @jmoz9305
      @jmoz9305 Před 5 lety +1

      @@timthegem what show was that on?

    • @CrisEX420
      @CrisEX420 Před 5 lety +2

      @@jmoz9305 czcams.com/video/LgM5vWD2cwY/video.html

    • @richardtheconquerer
      @richardtheconquerer Před 5 lety +12

      @@timthegem *Jim impersonating Big Bossman* Jimmy, you fell so fast

    • @LMLR187
      @LMLR187 Před 5 lety +7

      Jimmy was surprisingly agile back in the early 80's working for Watts

  • @michaelsinger4638
    @michaelsinger4638 Před 5 lety +76

    Fun fact, Magnum TA is also Tessa Blanchard's stepfather.

    • @sataniksomethingblahblah6350
      @sataniksomethingblahblah6350 Před 5 lety +9

      Godfather

    • @handsolo1209
      @handsolo1209 Před 5 lety +6

      @@sataniksomethingblahblah6350 = Stepfather

    • @michaelbandada9887
      @michaelbandada9887 Před 5 lety +5

      Yep, Magnum is Tessa’s stepdad

    • @LMLR187
      @LMLR187 Před 5 lety +7

      It's interesting to know that the two old-school nwa rivals (Tully Blanchard and Magnum TA) are still linked together through Tessa Blanchard.

    • @heelturnsface
      @heelturnsface Před 4 lety +4

      Fun fact, Tessa Blanchard has a nice butt.

  • @timothyeckhoff982
    @timothyeckhoff982 Před 5 lety +21

    Ric Flair beat Ron Garvin for his 5th World Championship at Starrcade'87. He retained his title against Lex Lugar at Starrcade'88.

    • @thevoid99
      @thevoid99 Před 5 lety +2

      i was about to say that. luger hadn't won the world title until great american bash 1991.

  • @ra0929
    @ra0929 Před 5 lety +16

    Flair was already champ at Starrcade 88, having beat Ronnie Garvin at Starrcade 87.
    Flair pinned Luger, then declared after that Luger would get no more title shots.
    The Horsemen vs Gilbert/Mr.X studio match happened shortly after that.

  • @joshuanagatoshi9081
    @joshuanagatoshi9081 Před 5 lety +58

    Jim Cornette doing the Fargo Strut is the best thing ever!

    • @emperortrevornorton3119
      @emperortrevornorton3119 Před 4 lety

      Yes sir

    • @daveguy583
      @daveguy583 Před 3 lety +2

      Thats Fargo strut was 🔥

    • @efuuu
      @efuuu Před 3 lety +3

      @@daveguy583 What about the cartwheel? and the elbow drop and the punches? What a surprise!

    • @daveguy583
      @daveguy583 Před 3 lety +1

      @@efuuu you're right!!! Corny brought out all the stops in this match

  • @nathanrichie4995
    @nathanrichie4995 Před 5 lety +10

    In my humble opinion, the Chi-Town Rumble match with Flair and Steamboat is the very best of their series of matches. I have watched it numerous times. Never gets old.

    • @trave5779
      @trave5779 Před 5 lety +3

      There's just not a wrong answer to this... Wrestle War in Nashville is my pick, but it's totally subjective. I've got no beef with your choice and on any given day, the Chi-Town Rumble match could easily be my pick.

  • @TheBoggieknight
    @TheBoggieknight Před 5 lety +16

    The Paul E mullet is epic. When wrestling was fun to watch.

  • @tjax-quackersracing3597
    @tjax-quackersracing3597 Před 4 lety +10

    This is my longest wrestling marathon on CZcams ever I’ll have been watching your channel from 10:00 am Jan 19 till 1:16 am Jan 20 and still going

  • @christopherwall2121
    @christopherwall2121 Před 5 lety +12

    "Less-than-modified clothesline" is gonna be my new favorite JR-ism

  • @ItDoesntMatterReally
    @ItDoesntMatterReally Před 5 lety +20

    I think Sting inherited the 90's, whereas I think both WCW and WWF tried to make Luger a thing and ultimately failed. WCW's dominance in the Monday Night Wars happened during a time when Sting was on top and squaring off against the nWo. Yes, the WWF guys eventually overtook them, but I think to any fan watching both shows at the time, for a good while Sting was the more tenured and recognized headliner when lined up with the likes of Austin and Rock, but they did inevitably overtake Sting in the pop culture mainstream. While both had mishandled booking and feuds that didn't pay off for them, I think Sting pulls ahead of Luger in relevance. He's got a more iconic look, wrestled better matches, cut better promos (granted, not by much) and just had a bigger presence about him on the global stage I think.

  • @Syntheticks
    @Syntheticks Před 5 lety +53

    Sting was slightly more important as a whole, although Luger was still important to wrestling like when he showed up by surprise on the first ever Nitro that was HUGE.

    • @bigdinlaca
      @bigdinlaca Před 5 lety +2

      Well at this time, Sting was popular because he was a babyface. Luger's popularity started as a heel and only went up when he turned on the Horsemen. As the U.S. Champ from 89-90 was probably one of the best championship runs in the company while some of it was while he was a heel. His pops as a heel were loud.
      Now, if the roles were reversed, could Sting had pulled a heel turn? He would still get the pops but I don't think he could of acted like the way Luger did as a heel.
      Luger wasn't the greatest wrestler but he had movesets as a babyface like the dropkick or hiptoss or whatever that babyfaces did at the time but he also had the movesets of heels like the begging in the corner, acting like a chicken, more power moves, cheating etc. Think about this as well, Sting best matches in the late 80s early 90 were against Flair, Muta or him being involved in a tag team. Other than that, he was in a lot of duds as a single wrestler. Luger had great matches against Flair, Windham, (well pretty much anyone that was a horseman) Rhodes, Pillman, Hayes, Steamboat, hell he made Hansen look like a million bucks.
      In the end, we have to give Luger his props. Dude did some great storytelling as a face and heel and when motivated, he was a great worker.The fans bought into it and I think people realize how bad Luger was when folks started criticizing his work when he came back to WCW when all he was doing was just collecting the checks.

    • @handsolo1209
      @handsolo1209 Před 5 lety +4

      I think being THE face in the whole nWo storyline and getting WCW's biggest ever PPV buy rate is much more than "slightly" more important. WCW could and did survive without Luger. It survived without Flair. It would not have survived without Sting. If he had gone to WWF any time from 1990-1994 then it would have been game over.

  • @TheEnzyme94
    @TheEnzyme94 Před 5 lety +14

    Flair vs. Steamboat was the measuring stick! Today when there is a conversation about a new great match inevitably this match will be brought up!

  • @eltornadoAfm
    @eltornadoAfm Před 5 lety +21

    Wow look at that full head of hair/mullet on Paul Heyman

  • @roodboy606
    @roodboy606 Před 5 lety +20

    5:49 He’s just the common man! Working hard for the man!
    Rickyy Steeeaaaaammmmmmmmmm(boat)

    • @michaelbandada9887
      @michaelbandada9887 Před 5 lety +2

      Rhodes v Steamboat anybody? Winner gets to be called “The Real Common Man”

  • @spookerredmenace3950
    @spookerredmenace3950 Před 5 lety +139

    i just realized your jacket reminds me of a Crown Royal bag lol interesting but also great review

  • @timbartschwolfman
    @timbartschwolfman Před 5 lety +71

    Sweet another Classic PPV Review
    I enjoy these Reviews

  • @christopherstead1203
    @christopherstead1203 Před 5 lety +85

    Is it safe to say that Ricky Steamboat vs Ric Flair is one of the best rivalries of all time???

    • @8-biternie944
      @8-biternie944 Před 5 lety +7

      It's a toss-up between him and Savage

    • @nestanesta9366
      @nestanesta9366 Před 5 lety +10

      Flair and Steamboat wrestled hundreds and hundreds of times.

    • @speedy932key4
      @speedy932key4 Před 5 lety +2

      Christopher Stead I agree, steamboat vs flair is one of the best fueds ever, although my personal picks for best rivalries are Matt hardy vs edge and Bret hart vs Shawn Michaels

    • @jamieoiler5690
      @jamieoiler5690 Před 4 lety +1

      no

    • @kevynhansyn2902
      @kevynhansyn2902 Před 4 lety +1

      @@8-biternie944 but they had their One off Match and it wasn't really a Rivalry. Vince messed that whole thing up.

  • @buckwrestling
    @buckwrestling Před 5 lety +7

    Interesting note, this PPV was held on a Monday night (this was before Sunday was "PPV day" in wrestling), so it was actually opposite WWF's Prime Time Wrestling on USA Network.
    1989 was arguably the best year for Ric Flair televised matches. You had the three bouts with Steamboat and the two Terry Funk matches, which were amazing in a totally different way.

    • @connerhuston2613
      @connerhuston2613 Před 5 lety

      Yes I remember I personally thought the best of the 3 was the middle one. I remember that was the April 2 clash of champions card in new Orleans at the Superdome It was best 2 out of 3 fails. I remember they had that card on TBS Superstation. If I remember correctly they wanted to compete with WrestleMania V? That was the card with Hogan vs Savage again if I remember correctly.

  • @funandyvideos
    @funandyvideos Před 5 lety +35

    "You could argue that Luger... had a similar impact."
    And you'd be terribly, terribly wrong.

    • @bradknowles7846
      @bradknowles7846 Před 5 lety +5

      funandyvideos yea I’m not sure if Luger had a similar impact but he definitely is a notable figure from that time

    • @funandyvideos
      @funandyvideos Před 5 lety +1

      @@bradknowles7846 So was Skinner.

    • @bradknowles7846
      @bradknowles7846 Před 5 lety +8

      funandyvideos yea a guy who doesn’t even have a picture up on Wikipedia for sure is on the same level of notoriety as Lex Luger.

    • @ronniejdio9411
      @ronniejdio9411 Před 4 lety +2

      Luger gets way too much hate..guy was not as bad as ppl claim in ring. Gets hate because 1. Wwe misbooked him 2. Guy really didnt love wrestling and 3. Elizabeth

  • @GATguy98
    @GATguy98 Před 5 lety +7

    Just downloaded the 80’s Mania game using your link in the description, Brian. Great game so far! Hope I helped you out in some shape or form, you deserve it. Great video as always!

    • @mrsejanoz523
      @mrsejanoz523 Před 5 lety

      It truly is good stuff! Can't wait for Modern Mania Wrestling!

  • @Wildberryjamband
    @Wildberryjamband Před 4 lety +5

    I liked the PPVs from a few years later where we saw several matches of
    "The Man Called Sting" against "The Man They Call Vader" lol

  • @andu1854
    @andu1854 Před 5 lety +14

    Windham always was one who I felt didn’t achieve as much as he should have (watch his classic time limit draw v Flair )

  • @michaelwaid1971
    @michaelwaid1971 Před 5 lety +13

    Got the Ryan Regret card. My first cheat

  • @kiprandom7208
    @kiprandom7208 Před 5 lety +19

    If I need to get stoked about something. I watch this Flair vs steamboat match.

    • @morgansalgat375
      @morgansalgat375 Před 5 lety

      ric truly deserves every bit of status and admiration, i happened to watched bad blood 2003 i think it was today and i was still in awe of the skill and his ability to go even at that time. the term "legend" gets thrown around a bit2much i think these days, but ill be damned if flair isnt the absolute epitome of what a legend truly is.what an amazing career hes had.i hated him as a kid, the older i get tho, i appreciate him SO much more

  • @michaelfalkner1186
    @michaelfalkner1186 Před 5 lety +8

    The "We Wrestle" was actually WCW's catchphrase of the time.
    And it did exactly what you said it did, Brian -- just it was farther than just JR cutting that promo.

  • @monkeyman5866
    @monkeyman5866 Před 5 lety +28

    Back when Ted Turner was in the Wrasslin' business...
    30 years later, somethings stay the same

  • @Mat15115
    @Mat15115 Před 2 lety +2

    I was there. 7 years old man! Really takes me back

  • @LeighDickeyTV
    @LeighDickeyTV Před 5 lety +8

    Ric Flair v. Ricky Steamboat at this Pay Per View... My favourite match of all time. Doesn’t get any better than those two.

    • @andu1854
      @andu1854 Před 5 lety +1

      Leigh Dickey TV I love the Best of Three just slightly more but it’s like which 5 Star Classic would you prefer (all three are great) no matter what, it’s a great choice

    • @LeighDickeyTV
      @LeighDickeyTV Před 5 lety

      @@andu1854 Anytime those two got between the ropes you knew it was going to be great. I like the other matches in this particular series with Flair and Steamboat. I just like this one the best because it's really the first of the true classic, marquee match ups between the two of them. But at any point, you stick these two in the ring, it is nothing short of magical.

  • @jasonyoung3070
    @jasonyoung3070 Před 5 lety +4

    Love seeing all these legends so young & kicking ass

  • @westnile21
    @westnile21 Před 5 lety +4

    Man I really enjoy your reviews of old school ppvs especially during the 80s

  • @TheMistahWooseNetwork
    @TheMistahWooseNetwork Před 5 lety +30

    1. Chi-Town Rumble
    2. Clash of the Champions
    3. Wrestle War 1989

    • @thevoid99
      @thevoid99 Před 5 lety +1

      agreed!

    • @TheMistahWooseNetwork
      @TheMistahWooseNetwork Před 5 lety

      @@thevoid99 Subscribed!

    • @jmoz9305
      @jmoz9305 Před 5 lety

      @@TheMistahWooseNetwork why would you subscribe to a non creator?

    • @connerhuston2613
      @connerhuston2613 Před 5 lety +1

      Yeah, the matches between Flair and Steamboat we're excellent. However imo the best was 2. The clash of champions April 2 match.

    • @williamhowe1
      @williamhowe1 Před 5 lety

      The trilogy.

  • @jeffreypridemore100
    @jeffreypridemore100 Před 5 lety +5

    I’m a big fan of 80’s Wrestling Mania. Downloaded after your first ad and was hooked. May have spent a little bit of money on it...

  • @stephenhanft1226
    @stephenhanft1226 Před 5 lety +35

    I definitely think Sting was the bigger star in the 1990s. While Luger had some great moments, I think Sting was more consistent.
    My favorite Steamboat-Flair match was at Chi-Town Rumble. I think their best match was at The Clash of the Champions. Their weakest match of the trilogy (but still quite good) was at Wrestle War 1989.

    • @handsolo1209
      @handsolo1209 Před 5 lety +5

      Overall Sting was the bigger star. The crow turn and build up to Starrcade 1997 is probably the greatest storyline in pro wrestling history and was WCW's biggest PPV buyrate. Seeing as JR was specifically referring to WCW then it's a no brainer. Sting was WCW's icon.

    • @allurhatrbelongtome
      @allurhatrbelongtome Před 4 lety +2

      I always thought Luger was pretty bland. His champ run for the WWF in '93 with the whole "Lex Luger Express" was kinda cringy. Sting was able to reinvent his look to stay relevent. The crow look clicked so well with 90s counter-culture, it was badass.

    • @SlXkxmx
      @SlXkxmx Před 3 lety +1

      This. Brian didn’t start watching till the late 90’s so if you can only look back it might seem close. But if you were there during the time period sting was the superstar and lex was just kind of there.

    • @lewisaino
      @lewisaino Před 3 lety

      I mean the mere fact of people wanting Sting vs Undertaker.

    • @SmithCommaBenjamin
      @SmithCommaBenjamin Před 2 lety +1

      Sting was WCW in the 90s. very, very consistent through the entire decade

  • @Mattsdmf
    @Mattsdmf Před 5 lety +6

    The older I get and the more wrestling I watch, 80s wrestling from the south is just about the my absolute favorite wrestling. 1989 NWA/WCW is a peak year along with 1986!

  • @branavankandiah9429
    @branavankandiah9429 Před 5 lety +6

    I really like these 1980's NWA/WCW reviews with their gritty feel and primitive graphics. Hope to see more!

  • @vciotoli2126
    @vciotoli2126 Před 5 lety +5

    US Champ Luger is the best version of Luger.

  • @walterclark3198
    @walterclark3198 Před 4 lety +2

    Flair vs steamboat is gold. They had a match in the Boston garden and it was the best match i've ever seen. Flair was the heel and steamboat the baby face. Classic match.

  • @SteelSunday
    @SteelSunday Před 5 lety +22

    JR: Who will control wrestling in the 90s Sting or Luger?
    Hulkster :hold my beer

    • @alihassan-ve3hw
      @alihassan-ve3hw Před 4 lety +2

      Rock :hold my eyebrow

    • @rajdeepnath9570
      @rajdeepnath9570 Před 4 lety +4

      SCSA: Hold ALL MY BEERS!

    • @vicentecollao2288
      @vicentecollao2288 Před 4 lety

      @@alihassan-ve3hw The Rock was a late gamechanger though, I would argue The Rock is incredibly important after the 90s, specifically early 2000s.

    • @technounionrepresentative4274
      @technounionrepresentative4274 Před 4 lety

      Steve Austin: hold my beer can

    • @SteelSunday
      @SteelSunday Před 4 lety

      Austin was awesome biggest star of 98- 99 onward, but in the total of the 1990s, He had less control if you consider the whole time period especially Austin 1990-1997 and compare that to the Hulksters,

  • @michaeldean7343
    @michaeldean7343 Před 5 lety +10

    The Clash of Champions best 2 of 3 falls match is still one of the top 3 matches I think I've ever seen. The WrestleWar match was a disappointment after the other 2.

  • @enigmaskull3495
    @enigmaskull3495 Před 5 lety +6

    2:46 Look at the adjective “wrestle.”

  • @ryanjohansson8950
    @ryanjohansson8950 Před 5 lety +2

    Need more Classic PPV reviews! I’ve watched all of them already.

  • @t.v.rockwell4504
    @t.v.rockwell4504 Před 5 lety +2

    When you said we were going to the internet era, I was hoping you would say Cyber Sunday 2007. I feel like it is an underrated show that features one of my favorite rivalries; Batista vs The Undertaker. It also features Randy Orton vs Shawn Michaels, Jeff Hardy vs Mr. Kennedy, and Rey Mysterio vs Finlay in a kind of fun stretcher match.

    • @jmoz9305
      @jmoz9305 Před 5 lety

      Need to bring back of version of this to have the fans legit vote and have effect on the show. Idk of you know but those votes actually weren't rigged they weren't allowed to due to some kind of gambling law since fans actually paid with txt fees

  • @EDH10
    @EDH10 Před 5 lety +5

    I watched this last week, and I felt so weird because of how much the wrestling back then was different compare to today.

    • @evilubuntu9001
      @evilubuntu9001 Před 5 lety +1

      Wrestling was so much better than it was today...not really. JCP had the same problems the promotions have today, mostly the complete inability to change, create new stars and think outside the box! They literally booked the promotion around a few guys and used everybody else as an opening act, yeah Steamer and Flair had good matches but they had too many, also Sting and Flair, the Horsemen, RnR vs. Midnight etc. Then Uncle Ted brought in Hogan and booked everything around him, then they had one good idea (nWo) and ran it to the ground. Sounds familiar?

  • @darryanworks3825
    @darryanworks3825 Před 5 lety +3

    LMFAO!!! Dude I can't believe you did the Scott Steiner "HUH" Lol!

  • @horrorfan4-life689
    @horrorfan4-life689 Před 4 lety +2

    Flair vs Steamboat trilogy will hold up against any matches from any era.

  • @bigjoeofthe707
    @bigjoeofthe707 Před 5 lety +32

    22:09 um excuse me Brian but Flair never beat Luger for the title. He retained it. He did beat Ron Garvin for it the year prior. That’s prolly what you meant.

    • @freiza79
      @freiza79 Před 4 lety +1

      BigJoe707 if Luger lost the title to Flair, it would destroy his career.

    • @freiza79
      @freiza79 Před 4 lety

      too bad Larry Zbysko should have challenged luger for the title when he had it. Keep Doom tag champions longer. In 1991, they should have had sting beat luger for the nwa title and have sting keep it a year and a half. bring verne gange in to train WCW wrestlers. Have Bockwinkle also come in to train wcw wrestlers too. I wish Bockwinkle was nwa champion in his prime.

    • @bigjoeofthe707
      @bigjoeofthe707 Před 4 lety

      Shawn Gross Sting couldn’t beat Luger for the NWA title cause it was vacant.

  • @EVGriffinJr
    @EVGriffinJr Před 5 lety +2

    On your sting/Luger question, Sting was the more significant of the two. Luger, however, was still a notable figure in the 90s.

    • @twig8523
      @twig8523 Před 5 lety

      I'd agree, about Sting over Lex, however, when it comes to "controlling wrestling in the 90s" Well, that distinction just didn't go to either of these "heir-apparent"s.

    • @EVGriffinJr
      @EVGriffinJr Před 5 lety

      Twiggie Leon agreed. Really if anyone controlled the 90s and it wasn’t even until late into the decade, it was Steve Austin.

  • @joed2444
    @joed2444 Před rokem +3

    The Clash of the Champions match really got me out of the all-Wwf mode. It aired the same time as Wrestlemania 5 and I remember thinking how superior that two out of three falls match was compared to anything on the Wrestlemania card.

    • @Koolazzmike
      @Koolazzmike Před 9 měsíci

      That was the best match I have ever seen to this date! I was watching the Clash live, couldn't afford the Wrestlemania PPV, but it didn't matter. The NWA/WCW put on top notch wrestling!

  • @samright4661
    @samright4661 Před rokem

    The best series on CZcams by a mile on wrestling content.

  • @cking06
    @cking06 Před 5 lety +2

    What a surprise matches with Barry, Flair and Steamboat are really good.

  • @johnmolina8629
    @johnmolina8629 Před 5 lety +3

    Both ric flair and ricky steamboat
    had great matches in Clash of Champions and Wrestlel war. You should check both of the shows out.

  • @connorkinsman3164
    @connorkinsman3164 Před 5 lety +2

    Oh my god Paul E's literal Baby Face at this time. You mentioned in another video not too long after this PPV (maybe 4 years), how old he looked but how he looks the same now. Damn he aged quickly and then not at all :')

    • @FIXTREME
      @FIXTREME Před 5 lety

      connor kinsman Cocaine's a hell of a drug.

  • @giovanimendes1550
    @giovanimendes1550 Před 5 lety +1

    These PPV reviews are my favorite. Love that one too

  • @FranchiseSHR
    @FranchiseSHR Před 5 lety +1

    You forgot to mention, teddy long reffing butch Reed match, later in life would manage Reed and Simmons as Doom

  • @Filmation77
    @Filmation77 Před 5 lety +2

    18:38 to answer that it would lean more towards Sting ,cause he actually changed with the times and garnered the iconic Crow persona,Lex Luger has always been "lex Luger" while his physique was super groundbreaking in 1986 he beacame an also ran in the late 90's and he was never a compelling promo.

  • @johnnysizemore5797
    @johnnysizemore5797 Před 5 lety +5

    Honestly,i love the whole set of Steamboat/Flair matches.Imho,it gave birth to the Best of...Series of matches.If i HAD to choose though,the first one was the best of the lot.While the third hd the better story,the first had a much better pacing to it.

    • @handsolo1209
      @handsolo1209 Před 5 lety

      No, Magnum TA and Nikita Koloff had a best of 7 series 3 years before this.

    • @johnnysizemore5797
      @johnnysizemore5797 Před 5 lety

      True enough,but Steamboat/Flair put it out for mainstream audiences.As much as i LOVE Magnum TA(i was a major fan of his growing up),you unfortunately have to have a love of the Mid-Deep South Wrestling to know who he even was.I'm not knocking his and Koloff's series,far from it,i'm just stating that Steamboat & Flair brought more of a Heat to it.While Magnum/Koloff was about National Pride,Steamboat/Flair was about the World Title,something that SHOULD be the Centerpiece of your promotion(i'm looking at YOU WWE!).

    • @handsolo1209
      @handsolo1209 Před 5 lety

      @@johnnysizemore5797 - I agree that 1989 WCW was the national stage and many people may not have seen the Crockett stuff. The thing about these series of matches back then though was the stories to them. The matches between Flair & Steamboat were good, but the story that this told and then lead into (J-Tex, Horsemen reform, turn on Sting, etc) was amazing. Now it's just matches (and crappy ones at that with no psychology) and no story. This was a story that happened to have matches and it was awesome.

    • @johnnysizemore5797
      @johnnysizemore5797 Před 5 lety

      @Hand Solo - i'm with you 100% with....most of the new stuff(though i DO like the Firefly Funhouse stuff WWE is doing with Bray,and at least AEW is TRYING to make a good product).You see,as a Kentucky boy,i grew-up watching WCW in the 80's-early 90's(i switched to Smokey Mountain after the whole NWO thing,though i DID watch a bit: Mostly the Cruiserweight/Hardcore WWE stuff),so i fell in love with Tag Team wrestling .I'm talking Road Warriors,all the Expresses(Midnight,Rock&Roll,Orient),the Brainbusters(Olie&Arn,though Tully&Arn were OK),The Varsity Club(Rick&Rotunda.Sullivan never was a good Tag guy),heck i even liked Sting&Luger as a tag team!
      As for the stories being told: My favorites were always the Mid-card Title ones(all time one being Horsemen-vs.-Dangerous Alliance),just cause they seemed to have more punch.Steamboat&Flair's Feud is one of the few World Title ones i liked.

  • @thomasjenkins7506
    @thomasjenkins7506 Před 5 lety +1

    i agree. clip that spot and send it to every wrestler. it's super easy to do and looks really good.

  • @696190
    @696190 Před 5 lety +2

    for the first time in a long time, maybe forever, I am actually interested in the sponsor. I do admit, I look forward to the second game a bit more than the current one, but still good work

  • @Bbknuckles
    @Bbknuckles Před 5 lety +4

    That game you promoted is actually fun! I don’t usually download games from ads but damn is this one dope. Thanks for the cheat code 👍🏽🔥

  • @agsconnolly
    @agsconnolly Před 5 lety +2

    Hard to believe Paul E. was 23 at the time of this event.

  • @A16AdamWalker
    @A16AdamWalker Před 5 lety

    Thanks for the new classic review. I look forward to your stream of Pro-Wrestling Eve tomorrow, I hope Felix can join you so we see some of banter the live streams can bring.

  • @TAK1997
    @TAK1997 Před 5 lety +1

    "Two singlet type Pokemon" I died.

  • @AutoArtemAuto
    @AutoArtemAuto Před 5 lety +3

    Flair vs Steamboat is still my favorite wrestling rivalry.

  • @chrisbreezy3048
    @chrisbreezy3048 Před 5 lety +2

    After watching this PPV, I can attest that this show didn't become interesting until the six-man tag as the first two matches were so slow-paced and uninteresting. Furthermore, I also agree that Windham/Luger was great and Steamboat/Flair was an absolute classic. Now all I need to do is go watch the other two NWA World Heavyweight Title matches to see how they each stack up.

  • @chadog900
    @chadog900 Před 5 lety +1

    3:11 Jim Cornette in the red bow tie auditioning for the movie Problem Child. John Ritter thought he was a little too old.

  • @mrlemon-fr5vt
    @mrlemon-fr5vt Před 5 lety +2

    Riche looks like he's eating microphone like ice cream

  • @gamerdude612
    @gamerdude612 Před 5 lety +1

    16:02 That reference made my day thanks Brian 😂😂😂

  • @mrkipling2201
    @mrkipling2201 Před 5 lety +2

    Love seeing a young Jim cornette!! Proper athleticism!!

  • @lostonwallace1396
    @lostonwallace1396 Před 5 lety

    Nice review! I agree with you on all of them. Steamboat was a BEAST! He and Flair really were great together in the ring. Honestly, their best matches happened when they were in the Mid-Atlantic Wrestling era. They were younger and much more explosive back then, and they were both just firing on all cylinders in those late '70s/ early '80s matches. Go back and watch them. You'll be a believer!

  • @crazyjoehambone
    @crazyjoehambone Před 5 lety +5

    Flair beat Ronnie Garvin before going into the main event I thought?!?

  • @JJSInnz
    @JJSInnz Před 5 lety

    Love love LOVE these old school WCW reviews! I usually watch old WCW on the network 99% of the time lol

  • @explodingburritosexperienc9111

    Ha! I knew it would be a good idea to be up at 6 am

  • @yoshi6500
    @yoshi6500 Před 5 lety +6

    I love your content. You are my favorite wrestling youtuber

  • @Mr_Gray_Sky
    @Mr_Gray_Sky Před 4 lety

    Just hearing you summarize the Flair Steamboat match is enthralling

  • @kuma1388
    @kuma1388 Před 5 lety

    Dude, Luger took that windham piledriver like a fuckin champ

  • @LORDUnLuCkY13
    @LORDUnLuCkY13 Před 5 lety +1

    I think sometimes guys who wrestle the same style have great matches. Benoit vs Angle come to mind.

    • @mcgannahanskyjellyfetti1663
      @mcgannahanskyjellyfetti1663 Před 5 lety

      I thought he was being TOO critical over the Steiner/Rotunda match. The match wasn't the greatest, but it wasn't as bad as he was claiming it to be...

  • @itsjohniley
    @itsjohniley Před 5 lety +6

    Slight mistake by Brian in this vid, he said Flair beat Luger for his 5th world title, Flair beat Ron Garvin, he also refers to Luger as a former world champion, but Luger had never been World Champion until 1991 at the Great American Bash!

  • @deathomega6208
    @deathomega6208 Před 5 lety +3

    As far as the Luger or Sting thing goes I gotta say Sting. Luger wasn't as good of a performer in or out of the ring imo. Sting had the accolades and the talent to back it up, from his climb up the card to main event w/ Hogan all the way to the last episode of actual Nitro (before Vince bought WCW) when he faced Ric Flair.

  • @MrNobody91
    @MrNobody91 Před rokem

    11:26 The Corny Strut 😂😂😂

  • @eddieelite3310
    @eddieelite3310 Před 5 lety +2

    You just made my morning!

  • @Chaosm03
    @Chaosm03 Před 5 lety +1

    What I really got from this show is that Teddy Long really put in some work that night.

  • @tapiwac5439
    @tapiwac5439 Před 5 lety +3

    Can we get 3 ppv reviews each week my guy I love these classic reviews

  • @rickwillard2002
    @rickwillard2002 Před 4 měsíci

    Rebooking the undercard
    Sting defeats Mike Rotunda(winner faces winner of next match)
    TV Title: Butch Reed defeats Rick Steiner.
    *Sets up Reed vs Sting at WresleWar.
    Loser Leaves NWA:
    Eaton,Lane and Cornette vs Randy Rose, Paul Dangerously and surprise partner Michael Hayes.(same result) Speeds up Hayes heel turn starts feud with Midnights and Freebirds.
    Eddie Gilbert vs Russian Assassin.

  • @guacamole9199
    @guacamole9199 Před 5 lety +1

    As far as Luger vs Sting goes, although Lex was always around the top of the WCW and was slated to be the next big thing during his time in WWF (even though that kinda flopped), I don't think he was ever more over than Sting title runs etc taken away as well. Though much of the time they were put together tagging in eary 90's then being toated as the saviors off WCW when nWo came in and also together in the first red&black Wolfpack. In my opinion Sting wins out!!

  • @Sparkledash1
    @Sparkledash1 Před 5 lety +8

    Thought the show itself was pretty average. But the Main Event between Steamboat and Flair was an obvious 5 Star Match, just like the other 2 that came after. Like Cornette once said during his rant for Clash of the Champions VI "We all sat down for Steamboat and Flair, because there is no way that they gonna fuck that up."
    Also, kudos to Luger. I am normally not a big fan of him, but his Match against Windham was also pretty good. If he has the right opponents (Flair is another good example) he is able to be dragged into a good match.

    • @hippiepeter
      @hippiepeter Před 5 lety +1

      Most NWA/WCW late 80s PPV event were nothing more then average with too many wrestlers with similar gimmicks, moves and looks....

  • @theluckiesteh9058
    @theluckiesteh9058 Před 5 lety +9

    The Chi-Town Experience.
    ....Too Soon?

    • @wstine79
      @wstine79 Před 5 lety +3

      Vince McMahon: "Book them now!"

  • @furnitureconsortium
    @furnitureconsortium Před 4 lety

    The double elbows with Cornette dropping one on Jack Victory was gold! bonus points for Corny doing the goofiest Fargo Strut in history xD

  • @hulk6785
    @hulk6785 Před 3 lety

    Barry Windham: 283 days as champ!
    Lex Luger: Oh, that's cute. *has a 523 day reign*

  • @ChiGuy251
    @ChiGuy251 Před 5 lety +1

    Thought it was strange for Windham the heel to sell an injury during the match and if you want a master class in psychology the Flair/Steamboat trilogy is it. Flair was in the last quarter of his prime (sadly Steamboat too due to injury) but dropped these classics onto the universe. The first Ric Flair DVD produced by WWE has the Wrestle War and Clash Of Champions match and I pop it in and play those on occasion.

  • @RendMaim
    @RendMaim Před 4 měsíci +1

    9:07 "thats the problem with wrestlers these days they dont sell "