US Army Strikes on Mexican Cartels is Worse Than You Think
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Is the US government really calling for legislation to invade Mexico and destroy the cartels? On March 7, 2023, 2 American tourists were by the cartel while visiting Mexico. In response Senator Lindsay Graham announced his plan to introduce a bill that would lay the groundwork for authorizing the use of U.S. Military Force against Mexican cartels. A major step as the pentagon typically just advises and assists with anti-narcotics operations. But this new bill would bestow upon the Mexican cartels the unique honor of becoming one of only 65 foreign terror organizations in the world.
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This FTO designation would have many consequences, among them it would authorize the use of US military Targeted drone strikes with AGM-114 Hellfire missiles, nighttime American special forces surgical raids on cartel leaders as they sleep, satellite intelligence assets refocused on the southern border. Supporters say this will give the US government more powerful lethal tools to destroy the cartel. Critics claim it could ruin a relationship with an important strategic ally.
Declarations like this are controversial and have understandably alarmed the Mexican government. It’s called into question the correct role of the US military in counter narcotics. From Mexico’s perspective it’s easy to see how they might not see much of a distinction between a targeted missile strike on a drug lab and a full blown invasion.
In 2019 an attack by cartel members had 9 US citizens lives ended and 5 others injured in Mexico inside an area just south of Arizona where rival cartels are still at war. These cartel groups are fighting to secure smuggling routes close to the U.S. border and this activity leads to mistaken identity, cross fire, and sometimes targeted attacks against innocent Americans. US Texas Army National Guard soldiers on the border with Mexico have been shot by machine guns and taunted by heavily armed cartel members across the Rio Grande. This has promoted the US embassy to issue safety warnings advising Americans against traveling to certain dangerous regions in Mexico.
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What are your thoughts on this statement by former Mexican foreign ambassador to the United States, Arturo Sarrakhan, in rebuttal to an attempt to list the then main cartels as FTO’s:
“f you label these organizations as terrorist, you will have to start calling drug consumers in the U.S. “financiers of terrorist organizations” and “gun dealers ‘providers of material support to terrorists”
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Fan, 18 DEE boi here. I trained and advised on a team in 2011-2013 in Mexico. How do we connect, I can provide a lot of insight.
Well Afghanistan isn’t an option anymore so the USA troops gotta be getting veteran experience somewhere😂 (I’m not anti USA, it’s just they be trying to get into wars all the time, even though they have every right, I support US, just a joke about USA in wars always)
@@bayersbluebayoubioweapon8477 we already started calling people who buy weed financing terror back when 911 happened. we're comfortable with that argument already. I think the whole thing is political theater at this point with no serious intention of bombing cartel targets inside mexico. I think it's a threat to let the cartels know if they cross the line then there is always the option to bomb them and make business harder for them. the republicans in congress are reminding the cartels that we're just a couple of votes away from being a real thorn (or missile) in their side. It's not a bad strategy when you look at it like that
I think the CIA would be upset that war is being waged on their business partners.
No ! The plan must be to eliminate independent drug dealers not aligned with the cia.
That ended in the 90s
Cartels are controlled by China now
@@brucelouie4613 Explain why Cartels have modern U.S. Military weapons. Someone is obviously in business.
@@brucelouie4613 You really think they would give up such a lucrative business???
You can’t expect the politicians that are payed by the cartel to actually do anything against the cartel
AMLO IS BEING PAID BY THE CARTEL!
Let me guess? They are all democrats?
Not just paid by the cartel, but actively involved or pressured with the threat of violence if they dont go along with things.
source.
@@martthesling source, i live there
The CIA and Mexican Cartels should STOP doing business with each other.
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yep
yeah but whos stopping commies then?
Atf too, atf caught twice selling guns to the cartel
Atf caught twice selling firearms to them
The amount of influence the cartels have on their local regions and the amount of corrupt government officials can't be understated. A soldier in the mexican army with cartel ties can be problematic, much like working with the ANA in Afghanistan
Just like the ANA in Afghanistan the Mexican Army would be placed on a need-to-know basis because if they can't control something as this the US Military would just keep them in the shadows from Important operations.
@@lesserknown66Why don't you start by attending the drug addiction here in the US, that's the main engine of this bull sh*t. You blame whoever you want but as long as there's demand there will be providers.
I sold Coke to a Government official in San Diego , I will always 100% believe they are corrupt
@@raider_reaper_4194I'm not surprised that's expectable but are you tho actually serious 😂
@@raider_reaper_4194if they found a lil baggy of coke in the white house then there for sure are politicians or government officials that be doin shit like that lmao
A thing people don't talk about is the the cartel does have places in the United States. All the way up to Northern California. The Cartel isn't just in Mexico but within the United States.
That's why over 600 FEMA camps exist: to deal with this kind of problems.
They're in all Major US cities a long the Eastern United States, like Chicago, New York, Washing DC etc...
California is a mess. It used to be a safe state but not anymore since Gavin came up. Shame on sheep voted for this dude. He called national guards for LA streets but he isn't playing with army to destroy those illegal drugs farms and meth labs. Not to mention about illegal immigrants lately. Sickening.
According to one of the recent DEA officials they are in virtually every city in America.
And the government doesn't do shit about it but has the nerve to call "White Supremists" the greatest terror threat.
@@sovietduga9747 Can you explain about the 600 FEMA camps?
The funny thing is, there is about 30% of a cartel presence in our national forests as there is in mexico itself. As a forester that walked the forests of southern california I have seen enough former cartel growing /working locations to know that the cartels IN mexico wont be stopped because we cant stop the ones in our own GOVERNMENT OWNED property.
Lmao what? You see a couple illegal grow ops and think it’s the cartel?
That’s also California, look at your state legislature. Legalizing larcenies under $1,000. Look at San Francisco, waste treatment system is overburdened so releasing crap into the ocean killing fish. Look at homelessness and drug epidemic, your state is corrupt and morally debased. Passing laws that allow you to have $3x with minors as long as it’s “consensual”and you’re within 10 years of minors age.
Also I’m pretty sure it’s not legal for US troops to operate military operations on US soil but if this gets passed then the military can be used to take down the cartels in the forests, more remote areas where police can’t go. This however may set a bad precedent because then they can label anyone they want as a tear her wrist. Like the DHS bulletin of February last year labeled anyone who spreads miss in fo mashion as a tear her wrist threat. Thing is hunt her bye dens laptop was “miss in fo mashion yet now its true.
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You couldn't stop the mafia from selling tobacco and wine, you legalized that, mafia becomes businessman and capitalize the business, you can't stop the cartel from sellin weed and other drugs, legalize that, cartel become businessman and capitalized that, there is no stopping this until mexico and usa legalize all drugs sadly. 😔
That's because it's bussiness. They do know where they are. It's crazy bussiness from crazy peopple
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I lived in Central Mexico for 2 years 1996-98 (State of Queretaro). I traveled all over the central & southern parts of the country w/another female & for the most part, felt safe & had no issues. I went back about 10 years later to a very different country, so many areas I had traveled previously were off limits due to cartels & violent crime. I also had the experience of successfully bribing an immigration officer when I realized my student visa was expired (good for only 6 months at a time- most students went home for summer & winter break but I chose to travel). Thankfully, I was allowed to visit Guatemala & meet my friend's family as we had planned without consequences of an expired visa. I hope whatever strategies are employed, it's done in such a way that Mexico is treated an our ally. It's such a beautiful country where the (non cartel) people are warm, friendly & hard working.
The small detail is that when there is an intervention in any country, they usually end up in an even worse situation, so the Mexican government does not want to run the same risk and therefore rejects military support.
It's not an intervention in the strict legal sense if the entity with actual boots on the ground is a PMC (hired by the US, obviously, which of course would deny plausibly). This is the only and age old solution and sole viable alternative to directly wasting resources and effort into the corruption put. Sanitized uniforms make everybody wonder, yet nobody in their right mind would bother to think who those guys are, let alone lift a finger to stop them as they would be doing the Mexican people a big favor. The only ones crying would be the politicians due to their gradual or sudden loss of revenue.... Yes, it amounts to extrajudicial killing of what legally are Mexican citizens, but who would miss criminals? Is it ethical? I think that is in the eye of the beholder at this point.
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At this point give a US general a PMC and tell them to work with a special task force and mexican special forces
Cause all of that looks like a conversation about Shadow Company in MWII
But putting that aside wouldnt those PMCs also be corrupted or bribed by the cartel though of course if you get some one like General sheperd and Philip graves im pretty sure those 2 along with Shadow company would be able to help with mexico's drug cartels but even so a PMC has its own dangers in the political realm considering blackwater and wagner
That's about right, I remember about two weeks before the Attack on the twin towers in New York , the President of Mexico himself came to the White House and Cancelled the Military alliance of Mexico with the United States, I think he Knew that terrorist were planning the attack and didn't want Mexico to get involved in another War .
@@incognito1409 We still won't risk the ''collateral damage'' of what americans are known for
They are corrupted by the cartels lol
Glad you covered the corruption on both sides of the border. Just recently a police union representative was busted importing fentanyl.
Ooooooo sooooooooo scandalous 😂
post a link
Double the time he serves or death penalty, it’s killing some 300 AMERICANS daily
If you actually knew what you think you knew, then you would know the Mexican government and the United States government has the same bosses.
why don't they just make it illegal to do certain things so it's not biased??
I’ll reenlist in the army if we go to war against the Mexican cartels. I’m Mexican btw, and tired af from hearing about all the horrible things these guys do and aren’t held accountable for any of their actions.
There u go finally a Mexican with heart, every Mexican idolizes cartels they see them as heros u are not a dummy
Mexican myself and I want to see the cartel diminished as well.
@@williammejia5951 that's an absurd statement, I would say a low percentage of people
@@williammejia5951I don't think that but many rely on them but many Mexicans including me wish we could just end these cartels
@@conexionneuronal8820that's not true, Cartels in Mexico specially in Sinaloa are very nice to their population
So if anyone interested in the Cyberpunk lore and the 2077 video game...
The whole "Collaspe" event that kickstart the Cyberpunk universe and effectively ruins the USA starts with a war with the cartels in South/Central America (actually being the Second one they have with the Cartels). In the lore, its considered much worst then the Vietnam war in term of mortality rate for the US Army.
2077 hasn’t even happened yet. And when it does they probably won’t even have video games then
And the EU and Soviets intervened on the side of South America
@@TheAlmightyPrimelmao
An external intervention in Mexico's domestic affairs just doesn't make sense. Something we do not discuss at all is the trafficking and distribution within the United States. It becomes apparent that a complex and established organization carries out the monumental task of making drugs readily available at every corner of the country. Think of the logistics and management of such enterprise. So this raises the key question: How is it possible for this to happen? Is it possible that cartels operate at will across the United States? Is this carried out by American cartels? Or is it possible that legally established organizations do it? In any case, this phenomenon only suggests that there is rampant corruption at every level of the US state institutions as well. How useful would it be then to intervene in another country's domestic affairs if the United States is not capable to solve its own issues first? Furthermore, seems illogical to use violence in this issue while drug demand persists. After attacking and destroying these cartels new ones will emerge if the demand for drugs has to be satisfied. This problem requires a solid bilateral cooperation policy with well defined objectives in terms of prevention, treatment, security and their corresponding budgets.
Said cooperation requires the prerequisite of political will and commitment, which contrary to Colombia especially during Gaviria's tenure is totally absent in Mexico. Its government and bureaucracy is one of the most corrupt in the world second only to Ukraine. How are you going to prop up any viable cooperation under those circumstances? Mexico is beyond repair and effectively amounts to what is called a failed state.
It is an unarguable fact that the only countries that have had a decrease in cartel activity are the ones that enacted full military responses to said cartel activity.
Trying to police a cartel like a regular criminal organization will just leave you with a lot of dead police officers.
They’ve been a problem for far, far too long. The US should have considered this years ago. Everyone wants to hate on Mexicans for trying to flee their country, but don’t want to provide solutions. No more cartel = no more drug mules = no more human trafficking, and the Mexican people can stay in their nation with their families and enjoy newfound freedom/prosperity. It’s time.
@@peteallyn412 it’s already happening, Mexican immigration is way lower than some decades ago, of course there’s still Mexicans who cross the border but is not the majority now. but there’s still many Central Americans crossing the border.
Yep
@peteallyn412 one of the issues in the USA is pretty much the biggest customer for groups like the Cartels.
There is pressure from those rich folks that want their vices and fixes.
i agree completely!!!
This reminds me of an old saying, “Don’t expect solutions when there’s money to be made prolonging the problem.”. This won’t end.
Right! The pharmaceutical companies operate in much the same way…though we “dare” not refer to them as cartels. 😂
Wherever all that money's going has banks that are supposed to be legit and and businesses nobody knows who owns them getting a piece of it on it's way there.
Ukraine
Sad, but true
It’s almost as if you’ve watched US politics play out over the past 60 years…. Vietnam would have been over in a week if they wanted it. Afghanistan, Iraq, etc., we are in more countries now than at the end of the Cold War.
Awesome journalism
Absolutely informative. Subbed ❤. A former US Army Commo Veteran
As soon as the US is able to collect taxes from cartels they’ll renamed to “open routes to new pharmaceutical and transportation companies” 😅
NO TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION 😡😡😡😡😡
@@Jxshua19 *1775 flashbacks
lmao of a clinicaly useful schedule 8 elephant aspirin
The US Govt. doesn't even care about taxing the consumers, when they can... so, why would they bother pretending to tax foreign suppliers, when they can't?
The cartels have been going into legit business
These politicians get their pockets lined by so many sides that I can’t even tell whose side they are on anymore.
We can tell they are not on the side of American citizens for sure.
They're not on anyone's side. They're only out for themselves. They don't care who they have to use, or what they have to do, long as it benefits them
I know Biden isn't on our side....there is a reason the whole system doesn't like trump....he isn't a politician and isn't in the circle...such a shame that so many sheep are so easily fooled by the media and politicians. Trump was hurting the dirty politicians pockets
Its simple. they are on their own side. whatever benefits their personal interests financially and politically. Its a joke
Cubans may be playing a bigger part in influance than you think
great video
Thank you for this update. 👍🛡
Ah yes, the classic "As long as the riches be right, then say the terrorism is slight" situation.
Never gets old.
"Have you payed your dues jack ? Yes sir the checks in the mail !"
If Ms. Lindsay is on the front line, I'm all for it. Let her take the brunt of the ammunition aimed at her.
If them kids are being rapped and trafficked wtf does it matter?! They’re gonna die anyway whether it be OD, gunshots, or cancer.
It appears the US Government wants to eliminate the cartels, so the US Government can take over the business. Nothing to see here folks, move along.
The truth is that depending on how terrorism is seen in each country. In Mexico that is not considered terrorism but organized crime 😅
Cartels on home soil is probably a bigger problem. Growing/lab operations, alliances with local gangs, buying off local politicians. Tons of people on the cartel payroll, directly or indirectly
yep
Drug cartels are financed by the United States, that is a reality.
Even if the Mexican Army eliminates them, it will never be able to totally eradicate them, if arms trafficking from the United States continues, the highest level American elites are involved in the drug business.
People need to open their eyes. To that reality instead of blaming someone else
same thing. They use our land but send the cash back. take out the head the rest of the body dies. Stop trying to be smarter than you are.
If we wanted a war there is nothing mexico could do
Thanks!
Fear is a darkroom where negatives develop.
If they're designated a terror organization, then that probably broadens asylum acceptance fleeing them.
Exactly, most people don’t know that.
Like anyome cares about enforcing the border at this point
Like racist old whites care about asylum acceptance
Shouldn't we want people to take asylum from a terror organization ???
@@franktall7705like it matters at this point
I hope I'm not the only one who appreciates the irony of China exporting opiates to the West.
Oh don’t worry mate you aren’t😂💀😭
They get the cartel but they don't stop the addiction not the Hollywood propaganda that had promoted it for decades. And let's not forget Big Pharma. The US is always in crisis mode because it creates it itself with its huge hypocrisy and self denial.
I don't get it. What's ironic about it?
@@butter7734 Look up the opium wars.
@@butter7734 Read up on the Opium Wars and the Boxer Revolution.
Of course politicians are iffy about doing anything about this issue because it’ll hurt their money.
If they are worried about their tourism then do something about the cartels. We can't turn a blind eye to the danger there that is leaking into American lives. Mexico has been off my visit list because the carrels, it needs this intervention.
During the trial of the son of king pin Mayo Sambada, the CIA admitted to having a meeting with Visente Sambada in a hotel. he was later captured by the Mexican military. He signed his extradition immediately, thinking that his partners in the CIA would protect him since the Sinaloa cartel had a working relationship with the CIA. It is common knowledge in Mexico that the CIA works with certain cartels and goes after the cartels that aren’t aligned with them . When Mayo,s son found out that he was being charged in America, he got pissed off and tolda famous Mexican reporter named Annabelle Hernandez everything about his working relationship with the CIA.
The "agent" has to be able to scare the entire Mexican Army, and it can get a bit thick at times I'm sure!
The cia works with all of them, and with none of them.
Well guess what, the CIA is a rouge organization that does all kinds of sh!t and we have no control over it. I am sure its done far worse........in short the CIA is the American Cartel.
The other big part of this problem is the demand that originates here in the US. We might cut supply for awhile but the demand will just shift to other sources.
Don't forget Mexico became a drug consumer from 2006 to the present, now cartels have two huge consumers the USA and Mexico,plus some countries in the other side of the globe.
Legalization would destroy the cartels.
@@antonleimbach648 Nobody is ever going to legalize these incredibly harmful and addictive drugs. That's a non-starter.
@@antonleimbach648 It didn't stop the illegal weed farms.
@CedarHunt Oregon has entered chat*
(Yes, I know they were decriminalized, not legalized but it's a joke)
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Need to finish building the borde wall and electrify it so they cannot climb over it or touch it / cut openings in it
As a former fentanyl addict I can say this drug is hell on earth it’s the worse horrible feeling of withdrawal when you don’t have it it’s torture I hope this pandemic ends
May God bless you from that addiction, I'll keep you in my prayers man.
Stay strong be blessed 💪🏿🙏🏿
Lol skill issue
I've heard opiate withdrawal is not nearly as bad as benzo or alcohol withdrawal
How did you even live on that stuff. It knocks people dead with only like a grain as big as a 1 grain of salt.
Problem is the corruption of the government too. They dont want their paycheck blowing up
the problem is huite people being stupid and doing drugs.
Or their heads
The curruption is only a problem for the USA when it is not aligned with USA foreign policy... the USA has for the longest time being destabilising South America so it can exploit the resources there and to seize land
they only getting rid of the opposition
And let's not talk about usa and europe getting more mad at the fact center's don't want to run like colonies is more like it.
We have mock government choices that appease the people and make them feel safe and we have actual (real) government choosing to do nothing for that would cut their money tree down.
It’s a sad and evil world.
It would be a one day walk through for the USA
Have we considered telling the CIA to stop funding the cartels?
Don't forget about the DEA and wells Fargo laundering 7 billion dls a year.
The drug addicts are funding it. The CIA just lets it happen.
Fuc the cia move over let’s us destroy the drug war for once, now what is the cia going to do go to war with the US army?
Fast and furious, anyone?
@@danielceron628 on God and wells Fargo charges me 35 dollars for a 2 dollar overdraft I once got 4 overdraft charges in the same day because the bills hit on the wrong day. Pain.
This issue is a most important/complicated one. I worked with Mexican immigrants in 2019, and what the men told me was that one of the main reasons why they fled to our nation is because of the corruption within/throughout their government with ties to the Cartels. As one of them stated(paraphrasing), "the Government is not going anywhere, and neither are the Cartels. And so long as there are buyers(the market/demand in the USA), both organizations will remain intertwined." In my opinion, just going after the Snake will not end this conflict. There must be an equally powerful push to limit/eliminate the Snake's prey(the market/demand in our country). Without both operations in tandem, the force applied to the Cartel will only aggravate the situation, and will be used as another political carrot on a stick/theater for both nations and their Citizens. In my experience, the Mexican People are highly industrious, honest, jovial and family oriented. If we can truly stamp out the market here in the US and the suppliers in Mexico, it will be to the benefit of all.
As Walter white would say
Meth could be legal
"If we can truly stamp out the market here in the US and the suppliers in Mexico, it will be to the benefit of all."
Hasn't that been the plan for the last 80+ years? Doesn't seem like its working very well, but sure lets do the same thing because it sounds righteous but fails in practice.
Legalizing drugs without high taxes is the only to solve this peacefully, let the addicts kill themselves or else war will destroy multiple countries and many innocent families
Musashiwebb 4 prez
Well we all know how well the "war on drugs" went
You really had to clarify about the goat guns?😂😂😂😂😂
What matters is the value we've created in our lives, the people we've made happy and how much we've grown as people.
In the long run, getting rid of the cartels is a massive positive for Mexico, the culture, tourism, prosperity.
That’s why we should legalize drugs and focus on rehabilitation instead of incarceration.
If we go to war with the cartel china will supply them with weapons and pretend like the US that it was a rogue element. Millions will die before it finally ends but billions will finally live without watching their parents and piers die infront of them day by day until their body finally overdoses
@@michaelgj23 Then drug use will only go up... And means the cartels will only gain more power as they can legelly exsit doing their illgel stuff.
so then we shouldn't do it?
@@michaelgj23no.doesmt help lol. U don't get it
In my opinion, I think this issue will reach a boiling point eventually and it's only a matter of time before there has to be a major crackdown. Lets just hope it's not a worst case scenario event that pushes them to take action.
I can assure you it will take a turn for the worst.
@@just_a_turtle_chad won't hold my breath for that but also won't be surprised if that's the case
I believe deploying the military would be like ripping off the bandaid. It's not pretty, feels icky, but I think it's the best way to rout out the problem.
@@lykan801 there should be a global coalition to occupy mexico. For decades the corrupt leaders have been entangled with the cartel. They have no interest of shutting them down. The cartels have spread and operate out of mexico and even as far as into Spain. When a Mexican cartel was busted in Spain the Mexican president literally said treat them right their good people. This is a problem.
True ultra violent USA needs to deal with its drug problem, and it's terrorist pushing weapon exports that fuel violance
Take no thought of who is right or wrong or who is better than. Be not for or against.
Some people are always grumbling because roses have thorns; I am thankful that thorns have roses.
As a Mexican I'm all for this. Those demons have ruined the image of our country and people
You know what happened to K1k1 do not mess with the bull you do not know how deep the money trail runs.
If US do that they gonna think they own us , fuck that !
This guy is a liberal who thinks it's "unfair" to eliminate criminals.
@@LaLisaUbdee yeah america is so evil that we support cartels.
Mexico would be 10x richer if cartel’s didn’t exist
I pray for the day that this becomes true Mexico is beautiful and I’m tired of it’s corruption and all the kid trafficking as well as all the sick cartel members who enjoy doing unthinkable things to other humans.
No
Yes hope it gets better. A beautiful place
US will liberate Mexico from the drug cartels and millions of Mexican women will marry us Gringo Men.
I've never been to Mexico but I've heard how brutal the cartels are they need to be stopped for everyones sake
Yes but folks, it's not possible to simply "invade Mexico and destroy the cartels," LOL. The movie "Sicario" is not real life, the cartels are not just waiting there for us like some standing army in phalanxes. Cartels pay off ALL decision makers within an entire society-- including across the border. They are not so easy to uproot. They have also been destabilizing nations like Ecuador elsewhere in Latin America. They are rich and ruthless-- military force alone won't do a thing.
The fact of the matter is that cartels are way more powerful than people think, the amount of violence that would occur not only in Mexico, but in America, would be catastrophic to both nations. Cartels have many active associates and members in the United States and if the US did a move like this the blood on the streets of Guadalajara and places like Philadelphia, Chicago, NYC, LA, etc etc would be insane.
Great explanation! ¡Gracias!
Mexico just coincidentally happened to have stumbled upon one of the biggest raw lithium reserves in the world a short while before strikes against the cartels began being spoken of with such fervor in the US.
Please tell me you're joking.
@@Darksky1001able I'm sadly not joking.
@@Darksky1001able They only just found it recently and instead of importing it for sale Mexico is about to try and nationalize it for production. If done right Mexico could become a BIG power in the energy/engineering sector within the next few years.
This is fake news
Link please
I have always wondered why we always spend so many resources on countries thousands of miles away rather than our neighbors.
Ok
The money 💰 is poorly spent, wherever it is spent. 🤷
@@UniDocs_Mahapushpa_Cyavana ok
Cause it affects you
@@peenoice5176 true or not, prioritization is a key factor.
Why would destroying Mexico’s biggest problems ruin the relationship with the USA’s strategic ally?
Mexico’s president is a super pushover, though. Saying that he’s going to give them hugs not slugs. 🔫
Because Mexico isnt gonna tolerate a US Invasion and American bombings of Mexican cities.
i can already hear the airstrikes .
What an amazing way to present as many angles to an incredibly complex problem without belittling anyone's point of view. I wish there were more channels/outlets that take this approach. Great job!
YES
Bro turn on the TV and it’s all the same thing …. Someone mad bc you know no one likes white people
And you won’t hear that on Disney
@@shit_stain Hey, have you seen the Wonderful World of Mickey Mouse? I'm guessing that you're a fan of Spongebob; the art styles mirror one another and the fish people look the same. Do you think they employed the same illustrator?
Fantastically balanced view. I agree completely
If the U.S. military were to get involved directly I'd be curious to know what level of corruption lies within the military themselves in regards to cartel influence.
Basically none, because unlike Mexico USA has checks and balances and if we did do this all eyes would be on it
@@gamingclipz7309 you would be surprised dude.
@@gamingclipz7309 then you didnt hear the ex fbi agent. high high ranked guy get locked up and he said its ok. im only doing what i was trained when i joined fbi. and he got caught helping oit the cartels
@@drew388 you’re confusing the FBI with the military lol
Considering we can’t seem to weed out Nazis and white supremacist in the US military then I’d say the Mexican military and govt is full of Cartel.
They weren't tourists, to me they seemed to be criminals with out a leash
Let's not forget, something that people often forget is that a big part of the American-Mexican drug trade is gun smuggling. American gangs and extremist groups that deal with the cartels often smuggle firearms to Mexico to pay for drugs. Firearms/ammunition are actually much harder to procure legally in Mexico vs America. The one part that freaks me out about the bill though is that it doesn't limit itself to Mexico, but to cartel drug trade
That's the real problem, without the US weapons the drug cartels will be just a bunch of low class criminals but that's exactly why you don't hear anything about the correlation between Cartels and American weapons.
I distinctly remember when the Obama/Biden administration sold guns to cartels, Operation Fast and Furious. The weapons were purchased from American gun stores, with the goal
being to track the weapons they sold to cartels. Then the Obama/Biden admin would blame lax American gun laws, in order to push for more gun control.
@@wyliecoyote985 fucking AR-15s and Barret's aren't coming from anywhere but the US. This is way false.
@@wyliecoyote985 Not trying to be a dick or anything but you need to be here to see the reality not just read and repeat random things you saw on internet.
The reality is that most of the cartels arsenal comes from the US, the biggest gun seizures are always on the US border, not the Guatemalan one. Even illegal weapons in Mexico are cheaper in the north of Mexico and increase in price as they travel south because they come from the US, mainly from Texas and Arizona. The best armed cartels are the ones in that area, they use the same drug route but in the opposite direction, from North to South. You think there is no black market for weapons in the US? many are from the civilian market but a large part of the weapons are ghost guns or civilian guns with ghost parts to convert in full auto. Someone in USA is manufacturing and selling gun to the cartels as if they were candy. Just remember Fast and Furious.
@@wyliecoyote985I was thinking that too. As much as we have firearms in the US, the cartels heavily source weapons to match that of the mexican military. They can buy pistols and shotguns all they want from the US, but it's a little more difficult to source .50 cals and rocket propelled grenades from here.
In fact, some of the tunnels that run under san diego, the cartels SELL these weapons to the US as well. So it's a little back and forth.
Honestly I think both governments need to agree to a joint strike on the cartels but I'm not holding my breath
both govs are in it
Agree.
AMLO has rejected force against the cartels and says the best way too deal with them is love.
the mexican military is partially corrupt.
@@boerpanther1301no they aren’t the Mexican president is pretty much a member of the cartel
To follow, without halt, one aim: There is the secret of success.
It's genuinely scary how much of a problem organized crime has become in the 21st century worldwide. An even greater problem than conflicting ideologies or clashes of nations. Not as flashy, but the societal damage is far greater. Maybe because it's more pervasive, always present and never goes away. It's an organized institution wholly dedicated to the use of terror and pain on a massive scale, professionally and to the maximum effect. You can't negotiate with it, diplomacy and treaties are useless, since they operate outside all areas of legitimacy. You can't shoot at it since they are your own people, and under the protection of the same laws we made to protect ourselves. You can't prosecute it since it's too big and justice too expensive. You can't cut off its funding because it thrives off of bottomless hole of human vice. And even if you rid your country of it for a time it will just move to another border and keep growing.
And now they have tanks.
I know it's not this simple... but it kind of feels like "We can't get this issue under control, but don't you dare try to get the issue under control!"
It couldn't possibly be worse than the 100,000 overdose deaths per year we have now, plus the homeless and crime problem. Going to war with the cartels would result in a marked improvement overall.
@@cwc2k1 Its like the movie Sicario 😂. Naw but in all seriousness
Stop being raging drug addicts and you'll be fine
@@cwc2k1 US pharmaceuticals started your drug addiction, you guys are just junkies looking for someone to blame.
U.S.: "We can't get our internal issues under controll, but we can fix other countries on a whim".
I am a retired American and one of the two million Americans living in Mexico. The Mexican cartels are now worldwide and very settled in the US. The US needs to eradicate the cartels from their own country first. The Mexican government and most of the people I talk to do not want the US to be involved. The cartels are so intertwined with government military and business in Mexico there's really no real answer to solve the problem.
You sir, are a coward
you erradicate evil within the government, then investigate the income of the rich, specially those who own ranches and mansions, where their money came from?, if there is a will there will be a solution,
They are part of our government too.
Hard to eradicate something that the criminal politicians back and profit from. U.S government needs cleaned out first and then target cartels and illegal immigrants also following those crooked politicians money trails and finding out who they've approved for visas and citizenships. I know the U.S has the ability to sort that out. But we won't. WE will continue to allow crooked politicians to commit fraud be it election fraud or fraudulent laws making it even easier to commit voter fraud.
The U.S government needs a purge and WE the people need to make it happen. It'll be bloody but necessary
Just overthrow the government ┐( ∵ )┌
We can make a new one
if we solve the addiction crisis within the us, with better rehab and mental health centers, then we solve the foreign issue of drug cartels outside.
We should be spending our tax money on ridding our home grown terrorists.
If the US were to do this, every American soldier's identity must be kept secret otherwise their families might become a target. Mexico is simply just too close to home. This will be another factor to consider.
Yeah and the cartels are some of the most creative and insane torturers to date. They make isis beheadings look humane.
Not just families of servicemen and women, but US civilians as a whole. Cartel already has people in the USA, and with our open border, they can send as many members as they want, and could literally wreak havoc on areas of the USA. These groups are just few handfuls of poor low skilled criminals, but a large number of well funded and many are well trained, and experienced, as well.
This is exactly whats going to happen. It's going to be open season on americans and terrorism and forever war will come to america. But then the US gov't is retarded and loves forever wars and chaos that it can profit off of. Imagine mexican-americans hearing their family getting bombed in some town by some bad drone strike and not thinking the blowback will be biblical.
lol if the US intervenes it will be a blood bath for the cartels. They won't even know what hit them. Look at israel striking Hamas just across the border. That's what will happen to cartels. Precision strikes. the whole 9 yards.
I don't want gringo soldiers messing around in my country no matter what their intention is. There is too much bad blood between us. The U.S just wants Mexico as a slave nation. In other words I don't like the U.S government the cartels. Seeing the U.S's track record in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria and Yemen who would ever want a U.S invasion? Dumb gringos can't even run their OWN country. The hell are they going to know about the intricacies of another? 😡
To be honest, I think this fits the Coast Guard and DHS missions better than the other branches. It's because if we would mobilize heavily on this War on Drugs, it may risk our relation with not only Mexico, but also Latin countries, which are leaning toward China at the moment.
Depends how its executed. Mexican common people are suffering at the hands of the cartel, only the politicians are in their pocket. If the cartels are weakened to the point they can root out corruption and elect officials that aren't owned by them mexican relations with US should improve. If they go striking a bunch of civilians by accident / collateral damage like in Iraq then it will worsen relations.
Problem is the coast guard is not equipped for this level of ground action nor do they have enough "infantry" capable of the job, and DHS is undermanned for the job even worse.
I think the last 100 years of US foreign policy already destroyed the relation to latin america
National Guard but I don't know if they're legally allowed to
The cartels are animals though, just imagine having another iraq but in our backyard i dont see this boding well
Mexican and American governments should join hand in hand against the Cartels.
The cartel control the Mexican government
He found rain fascinating yet unpleasant.
The worst part about the whole thing is that so many innocents are caught in the middle either way.
If Americans stopped snorting swallowing or injecting all that garbage ,the cartels would go away !
Get out of the way if you're not involved???
@@roytsusui1761 “Just outrun the bullets and bombs bro”
@@ST-zm3lm”just move to another country bro, how hard could it be?”
@@bobsondugnutt1837 if ur family is poor then its not that simple
These cartels have been allowed to grow and prosper so far to the point that there are now only two solutions that would severely cripple them. One is to legalise and regulate all drugs within the US thereby completely cutting off their main source of income. Alternatively, a full scale military intervention similar to "Plan Colombia" would drastically reduce the size and influence of cartels at the expense of many lives of course. No other approach will have large ramifications for them as the corruption levels in Mexico are too high.
Just legalize it, nobody should have a say, what a person should put in their body, that should be up to the person themselves and their body
@@rickrinerlook at Portland and tell me you want that for all of America. You’re sped
So true by this mindset someone will straight up put a lethal amount of fent in my food and we all can O.D!!!
😂 The USA government is just as corrupt if not even more, they just know how too hide it from all the sleeping sheep here. You really think the DEA is gonna stop them lol they making millions upon millions with the cartels running around. And remember here in the United states people die learning….
@@rickriner true, however restrictions need to be in place to ensure others aren't affected. Like children and loved ones knowing what kind of damage these drugs can do to young minds as well as adults.
What purpose would an electrified grill on a vehicle serve?
0:22 is that guy holding an m1919. Over 100 years later.
That and the dude next to him has a FX-05
Boggles my mind that Mexicos biggest concern with labeling cartels as terrorists is image and tourism. You can only advise and push the government to do so much. It's gonna get worse before it gets better.
Dude our concerns aren’t tourism, is that your military presence leaves us like Iraq, poor and filled with problems
@@carlosvergara6120ain’t gonna lie, allowing the cartels to do what they want will do the same thing so
@@ZeroGravityFuneral nope, trust me the general public really isn’t as affected, is narcos killing narcos, not that many civilians
@@carlosvergara6120they do a lot more than just murder
Human trafficking, extortion, modern day slavery, and bribery to name a few. The reason why your gov doesnt do anything is because of fear of retaliation. American intervention is inevitable its just a matter of when
@@carlosvergara6120 you can get rid of them, or we will.
The cartel should have been on that list of terrorist organizations a long, LONG time ago.
Honestly tho. 💯💯
It already was since 2019.
The Cartel Do not plan US attacks
The u.s government are the biggest terrorists
Cartels are criminals, not terrorists. The definitions are totally different.
Never bend your head. Always hold it high. Look the world right in the eye.
There is a difference:
Opiate - narcotic analgesic derived from an opium poppy (natural)
Opioid - narcotic analgesic that is at least part synthetic, not found in nature
like fenanyl etc
That lithium and oil is starting to sound like freedom 🦅
Its also interesting that most firearms that cartels use originated from the US 🤔
Exactly they are just going to do what they did to Afghanistan and Irak
Fast and Furious ATF operation was designed to arm Cartels.
@@feriateam8074 : Are you Drinking from the NRA propaganda... El chapo was captured 2 times after the operation, also Key politicians who are now under investigation for Cartel involvement after the operation . However, over 100 years ago Americans have bin going to Mexico for Alcohol /liquor and paying with Guns/Ammo.
In 2021over 7,624 "second amendment" fire arms were Confiscated in Mexico
in 2020 over 10,036, "second amendment" fire arms were Confiscated in Mexico
in 2019 7,897 "second amendment" fire arms were Confiscated in Mexico
🦅 democracy 😂
I'm seeing dollar signs, I mean uhh, uhh, a people that need liberating!
As a south texas border state inhabitant from brownsville, ive witnessed horrors commited by cartels. I have nothing more to say other than i'd be more than hanppy to fight for the well being of my families city.
I used to live right off of Southmost Rd back in the late 80s just a few blocks down from Morningside Elementary. I don't recall that level of crime in our neighborhood. There were street gangs, mostly minors, but nothing that rose to the level of what we see today. We used to ride our bikes, play outside until late at night sometimes. Sad to see Brownville like this.
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Also lived in Brownsville, 💯agree!! Used to be cocaine, then heroin, now fentanyl, which is straight up poison!!!
It's more complicarte than you think! The best way to stop all the drug trafiking is stoping consuming the crap!!! and u.s.a is the #1 users lncluring in sports like making legal use in the nba😂
In 2025 we will see more American military activity in mexico a little Birdy told me
The solution to drug associated violence is not just to limit supply but to greatly reduce the demand. I cant stop wondering what could be done to stop people from using such harmful drugs in the first place?
Finish the wall first. I doesn't shoot missles.
this guy turned a silly demonetization into an ad. just beautiful
Chris, I seriously appreciate the depth that you go to in informing and not just click bait fishing. I know a lot about these things, but learn more every time.
Yeah it mostly isn't any new informations if you know a little bit about geopolitics but still fun to watch
Half the issue with these issues is people believe the clickbait title unconditionally at first glance and never stop to think then spout opinions based on incorrect and misconsqued information which then leads to decision makers making bad decisions due to public opinion
The true way to render ourselves happy is to love our work and find in it our pleasure.
Classifying cartels as terrorist organisations (which they are without any doubt) would mean bye bye for the Mexican border. It would be much easier for Mexicans to get legal asylum as they are fleeing a terrorist organisation, and uncle Sam really doesn't want that. Also it's would be very convenient for the cartels to smuggle their own as asylum seekers and expend business beyond the border in a more aggressive way compared to the methods they use now. That is reason number 1
anyone who crosses the border is cartel
anyone who stays in mexico is well disciplined cartel
Not really, then you just lower the number of accepted Asylum applications
@@brandonsargent7105 Yes, but then there would be diplomatic problems like, ''racism'' bla bla bla. Uncle sam doesn't want that either. Considering he's going for re-election
It would be the opposite. Just like travel bans Mexicans would be labeled high risk. And this running across the border in massive groups would be met with military action instead of a slap on the wrist of caught.
@@vigosuiachternaam5503 Biden already has had an aggressive stance on the border trying to keep Trump’s policies in place (although courts have been striking them down)
I don’t remember the podcast but it was still interesting to hear. A former Mexican border patrol agent mentioned that the cartel centered around on producing and shipping cocan/raw weed. If the Mexican authorities destroyed their product/ location that was it the cartel would use what they had and star from zero again in another location like cockroach. He explained that once the US got involved in destroying their product the cartels broke even split and started to do mule run jobs for china. 10-15 years ago Opioids where being shipped in shipping containers from china to the harbor of Chicago now it’s the Mexican border.
I hate to tell you, but for the amount of drugs on every corner of America, means they are still coming in shipping containers and large cargo planes, the only way to stock every city, is the same logistics as amazon or any other company, there are warehouses in plain sight , storing and pumping out drugs.
chicago is land locked my friend
@@bonder3643 it has a port, receives shipping from the great lakes via some cannels
Shawn ryan show maybe?
@@bonder3643 Chicago connects to both the Mississippi river via canals and the great lakes. It was one of the biggest ports in the US because if it's proximity to the Mississippi and it being on the shores of the great lakes. With the construction of the Chicago canals and the lake Erie canal it became even more important in the late 19th century and early 20th century. Not as important of a port city now water shipping isn't nearly as prominent since the last half of the 20th century but of all the major port cities it's still receives alot of shipments by water unlike many of the cities in the great lakes that use to be important port cities much like many cities tbh
This would be crazy
It's "posse cometatus", not "cometaus". The second "t" is not silent!
I'm torn on the issue. Direct US military action, ideally with cooperation from/with the Mexican government, could really do damage to cartels. On the other hand, history has often demonstrated that a bombing campaign not done in conjunction with efforts to fix the root cause of the conflict typically results in little permanent change at the expense of innocent lives and a great deal of goodwill. As for China, from my understanding, fentanyl doesn't really require too much investment to make after you get the initial setup out of the way. It might be hard for natural opium producers like Afghanistan and Myanmar to keep up with synthetics, but a different supplier will likely pop up for such a lucrative market. It would be very hard to stop fentanyl flow into Mexico over the long run.
this is very similar to my thinking. if the US and Mexico decided to go ham on the cartel together it would be interesting, could produce great results
having the cartels running arround also hampers effort to do things about the root cause aswell though. Can't build schools if people keep bombing houses and so on.,...
There are no schools being built regardless
Let's be honest the root cause is poverty. A Mexican family has two options work in factories for 15-20 dollars a day if they are lucky. Or they could make 500-2000 dollars in one day if they run a couple kilos across the border. Until those choices and compensation get much closer to parity the drug problem will continue. If runners no longer see an economic benefit to being a runner for the cartels the problem will start correcting itself. Profits go down if runners demand more, and less and less people are ready to risk everything if they have a decent paying gig. That would force larger shipments and make the drug cartels incur more risk with less people to spread it out over.
@@Taskandpurpose If the US were to do drones strikes on the cartels it should be Mexican officials making those decision. Let them tell us what to strike so we're not acting unilaterally and violating their national sovereignty.
As we learned in the War On Terror, collateral damage is unavoidable. Drone strikes into Mexico would be a political nightmare and put unbearable strain on an already strained relationship. Let us be smart about this battle, yeah?
“Hugs not bullets” 😂
Obviously collateral damage would be unavoidable butttt the cartels are killing thousands of innocent civilians as it is.
War of terror you mean
All it would take would be the first incident of us mistakenly drone striking an aspirin factory or some neighboring house or apartment to get damaged from a legitimate strike for it to be plastered all over the news. Can't wait for the new sequel to VietIraqIstan, now with more civilian collateral damage!
Also bold of you to assume we actually learned anything from the War on Terror. Or the War on Drugs, for that matter.
The dead trees waited to be ignited by the smallest spark and seek their revenge.
Only way to stop cartel is:
USA stop sale weapon to cartel
Honesty both side
It wouldn't be Mexico and the United States' first rodeo.
Or even second when you remember the US intervened directly during the Mexican Revolution as a response to a raid on a border town on the American side...
Dumbest new idea I've heard today that is a proven failure.
Whelp the trilogy is getting interesting or will
And each time the US comes out with the W. Mexicans are tough fighters. However modern war is very different from boxing or MMA.
@@James_Cy You can only be so tough when a drone you don't even know is there sends a hellfire missle thru your fuckin window. They zero tanks or airforce. I say openly invade them. Tell the entire world this is why. What is anybody going to do about it? One aircraft carrier strike group could defeat the entirety of Mexicos military in an afternoon
Activision works with the military and published a game called Modern Warfare 2 which supports American intervention against Mexican cartels
That’s pretty goddamn scary
Hell yeah 😎
@@tehbeernerd Indoctrination. They did the same with CoD4 and the other MW titles. Making war seem cool to the kids so they join the army.
If I recall correctly, the American military got shafted in favor of a British task force and a Mexican special forces unit. The U.S. Army was nowhere in Modern Warfare 22.
@@thatguy1080 if it was americans it would be too obvious
I lived in Los Angeles for 40 years
Saw all those labs on the desert
And by the way,who distributes all that drug in the USA????
I saw trash cans full of empty fentanyl pills containers on Hollywood, Chatsworth, Bell Air, Calabasas, all those rich neighborhoods.
I got to snif lines with a bunch of cops
I used to get around
But it got to be too much
Everyone turned into a rat
Couldn't trust no one anymore
Made my money and got away
Was working for the filming industry at the end
Made a ton of cashola
Now, I'm just relaxing back in my hometown, where there's nothing to worry about.
Name five examples of when the USA intervened in a country and did not leave it worse off.
Germany, Japan, France, Belgium, the Philippines, South Korea
Authorities from both countries are way too involved with cartels to do something about it, Kiki Camarena case just shows how much US agencies (specially CIA) are involved, so its way more complicated than Colombia or Afghanistan.
Yea, that needs to be contained down there because I don’t see a solution coming from the US. It’s been out of control. The fact an entire town can get massacred a half hour from the border should be indicative of how out of control it has gotten
@@strafer8764it’s political corruption.
Being realistic, the mexican military is more than capable of dismantling organizations and arresting bosses.
But often they are constrained by corrupt higher ups or politicians.
It’s very common for a big shot to be captured and then be released by a corrupt judge.
The cops are also part of the problem, just picture this: in a neighborhood most people know who is involved and where are the bases of operations. So obviously the cops turn a blind eye to this.
This will never stop 🛑. The US is the #1 customer...they can't get rid of the dispensary just like that 😭🤔
Y'know they can if they wanted to, but politicians do not make your life easier
@@Mark3nd yeah but no . Drugs are part of this 🌎
@@Mark3nd what are you even trying to say. kid? nonsense.
naa our doctors have lexuses an mansions. you are making it so they only have 2 or 4 mansions an a few cars. hateful you
Legalize all drugs. It's the only way to defeat the cartels. Once all drugs are legalized and regulated like alcohol, then it will be much easier to go after the cartel as they will be starved for cash, and it will be easier to lure the leaders into traps.
8:53 lmao😅😂😂😂😅
The war on drugs will never end as long as their are people on earth.