New Organic and Hobby Farm Tractor! Tilmor - Modern Allis-Chalmers G
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- čas přidán 13. 08. 2018
- Tractor Time with Tim gets to experiment with a new modernized version of the Allis-Chalmers G tractor. With so many people entering the hobby farm and organic farm space, the Tilmore tractor is a new purpose built row crop tractor for small and organic growers! It is the only mid mount modern tractor with the ability to change implements within minutes, using no tools, and with one person!
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Back in the 40s my Grandpa was one of the first people in his little town to come home with a G, and people would slow down to shout out their car windows at him, "Ray, go see if you can get your horses back!" Two years later though, there were about another dozen G's in town, all a bunch of small vegetable producers like him, cultivating close to keep weeds under control on a tight budget. He owned that little tractor for about 50 years, and had nothing but good things to say about it. I can see that the G's market is starting to come around again, and it's good to see Tilmor recognizing both the need and the potential of something like the G to meet that need.
I just want to say that festooning the Tilmor with 2" receivers, and providing a small crane for positioning the belly implements, is genius.
I liked especially, that the machine was not a showpiece, but something that is used daily. Beautyful engineering, definitely one of the best tool carrier tractors built nowadays. Congratulations!
As soon as I saw the picture I thought "Allis Model G!" Love those old tractors.
My grandfather had the AC-G. It sure seemed like a big tractor when I was a kid! Then, as an adult I saw a restored one at the tractor museum in Temecula, CA and I sat on it. It sure was small! Grandpa did teach me to drive it when I was just seven. Oh, the memories, and so glad to see the layout being used again! Someday I will find a nicely restored G just to play with.
Man...that tractor is cool...just found this video Tim...I bet we could put that to use on our farm! Awesome!
Tim Christi thanks for the tour never saw a Tilmor keep this thing coming
God Bless
PaK
Man, for the small family farm, or low production farmer that is a pretty interesting machine that would make it much more productive. Great video!!!
I love Allis Gs. This looks like a really well thought out piece of equipment
Never have I seen a tractor like that. Very interesting original model and now a new slightly remodeled version, size specific farm or garden use.
I remember cultivating corn so slow and hours on end, I would often wake up night dreaming I was still driving the tractor.
Hard to stay awake while cultivating!
Rick Formerfarmer been there with snow removal 16 hours in a John Deere 644 then get in my car and turn the turn signal lever trying to get it to move.
We used a rotary hoe in our corn fields, faster is better with the hoe
Mr. Rick ~
Your story reminded me of my ex...he was working a field late at night...we had had tons of rain, so once we were able to get in the fields, we had to bust butt...he nodded off. When he woke up, he found himself IN THE NEIGHBOR'S FIELD. 😨
😂😂😂
"I've never cultivated anything."
Promptly cultivates the next row with no problem.
This is what the G - and this G-inspired Tilmor - was all about. A gallon of fuel will cultivate and weed-control an entire field, but a gallon of herbicide won't. And the weeds are evolving resistance to the usual herbicides, none of them have evolved a resistance to being ripped out at the roots.
It is awesome that youtube/google has provided a platform to share content.
I saw tractors like that in Europe in the late 70’s. That design is old. Great for a small acreage.
Thanks Tim for showing us all these neat tractors never seen one like this can't wait till the next one
We enjoy showing these unique tractors. Thanks for watching!
Nice little machine, have to say have never seen before hopefully they will be able to get it up and on the market soon.
That is neat. Thanks for showing.
It will be interesting to see how well this tractor, and company takes off.
That is a neat tractor. Does remind me of the Allis G. A good friend of mines Dad painted tractors for a living and several passed through his shop. We teenagers showing off would see who could pick up the front end the highest. Lol . Enjoyed the video.
I bet Katriel is having a big/busy summer. I know Y'all miss her.
Y'all take care and God bless.
Thanks Tim - Great overview
Look like you two were having fun.👍👍👍👍👍
Yes, it was a fun day (beautiful weather too). I really enjoyed cultivating the beans. I had never driven a front mounted cultivator before.
Thank you so very much I believe I would have never in my lifetime seen anything like this never heard of anything like this you are right you never know what you're going to see on your show cool cool cool that's the best I can say
Thanks Theodore. Appreciate you watching and thanks for the comment!
Thank you! I live in Ohio and help farm in Ohio and want one of these
This reminds me of the Oggun. It's based off of the G as well. I like with they did with the Oggun keeping it super simple for the Cuban market. I like equipment that's made up of common parts from other things and simple.
Wild looking Tractor
That is pretty cool and fun tractor to run!
History really does repeat it's self
I just love American ingenuity.
Good stuff guys!
Nice machine and works great on the field tim
On the other side of the pond David Brown manufacture the 2D Modell. Similar to Allison Chalmers G.
Even Volvo BM made a modell based on the T22 and T25.
They are perfect for crops rows.
What a cool concept!
Be great for what it does. I've seen this before somewhere while I was looking at all the Ventrac stuff. I was surprised when I seen that Ventrac was making them.
Who would have ever thought there would be 2 tractor companies building a replica of a almost 70 year old tractor
There's more than that, you've got these guys, Oggun and Tuff Bilt as well. I bet if you dug around, you could find a few more. They were great little tractors and they've been imitated before. My uncle had one from a company called Hines that I believe was built in the late 70s or early 80s.
Really? The little Kubota engines are typically quiet, efficient and reliable.
Yea, sounds like you have given them a fair chance! Thanks for the feedback!
Tractor Time with Tim almost have 4500 hours on my skidsteer with a kubota engine no issues other than regular maintaince
John Nicodemus yup, I too am tired of fixing my kubota. Yard art now.
Makes me want to be a small farmer for fun.
Great video, thank you.
Great looking system, be nice to have
I have to have one, now!
Interesting design it would probably work well on A hobby farm or vegetable garden
i like this tractor. i think it looks really cool.
Awesome
This is the most interesting tractor I've seen in awhile
Loved this video Tim!
Thanks Joe. We really enjoyed getting to cultivate with it. I kinda wish I could have worked at it longer. I didn't get my 'fill of it' :-)
It's nice to see someone offering a somewhat basic tractor. The implement on/off loading crane was pure genius. What were those draft arms in the back? It looked like it could have been a 3PH but I didn't see a top-link connection (although it may have been covered up by something).
The draft arms in back are compatible with the draft arms in the middle. It does not have a top link.
I believe this is to save space in the center mount.
So, the attachments can be used middle or rear, but are not compatible with other tractors.
Having said that, they have a conversion kit to make their attachments 3pt hitch compatible.
Great video Tim 🚜 I really enjoyed this video 🇺🇲💯
Great video Tim 🚜🇺🇲💯
Very cool! We will be looking in to one for are farm in the future
I'm going to install a U-pick strawberry farm....I will get myself a Tilmor.
There’s a company in Alabama I think that makes a similar tractor. Looks like Christy was having fun.
Our Hmong truck farmers will love this
We have views like that down here in southern Indiana!
Tim thanks for taking us with you to learn about this new tractor even though its based on an old ideal it has some very interesting features and capabilities I don't think I would want the gas one but the Kubota diesel I'M sure it has plenty of power and torque which is really what you need in a tractor I'M curious to see what implements they are working on for it. I have a feeling we will be seeing a new piece of equipment on tractor time with tim made in Ohio. Enjoyed the video as always. Have a great day. God Bless!!!
Don't be so quick to dismiss the gasoline engine. It's all in the transmission and gearing. There were tons of older gasoline tractors that had less than 20 HP yet were capable of serious farming.
The diesel will have better torque across the entire range of RPMs.
And it will likely last longer due to being liquid cooled.
@@TractorTimewithTim And! In addition to being a fuel miser, the Kabota diesel engine will be capable of being filled with non-Road taxed fuel, whereas gasoline is not available without taxes as far as I know
Thank love the vid
Interesting tractor. It was great meeting the women of ttwt at the fair.
It was nice to meet you Mark-Christy
Neat tractor.
Never thought I would ever see such an efficient and effective tractor!
I use a International Super AV, 1952, I can put all these implements on it, not a new idea, just filling a niche that the big tractor makers gave up on years ago
Agreed, I have a 140 with planter,cultivators, fertilizer hopper etc. Thousands of cubs, "A" Super A, 100,130/40 still around and you can buy 3 of them for what you pay for this Tilmor machine. Saw a restored "G" on craigslist for 4000.00
Wished I had one of those.
I'm not very familiar with older farm equipment but I thought it looked like something from the past at the start of the video. Googled a "Model G" and there it was. I do like the multiple attachment points and the Kubota engine with gear a transmission.
Goofy looking, but quite effective. My dad always wanted one, but never 'got around to it' because they sell for too much money.
A pretty interesting piece of equipment. I wonder if they will be available in Canada....
A replacement to the old Farmalls. Wondered when a company would realize it was time to create a modern version.
Would be a good raking tractor, especially if they make a mid mount rake for it.
Nice equipment I seen the planter and cultivator what other tillage or harvesting equipment to the have? Reminds me of our 1941 farmall Cub nice all around hobby farm tractor as well. We had ours rebuilt 12 years ago. Still a nice machine. Thanks for the video and keep them coming.
The Farmall A came out in 1941 Cub's didn't come out till 1947
Cool tracter
Road Grader looking
i recall sum years back at the farm show in ky there was a company that used the allis g tractor to bring back this concept not sure if they are still around or not if so this will be 2 companies working off this same thing
Does it have mowing attachments . A cicle bar that could be mounted under belly would make a good hay mower for small hay fields. And a bush hog stile for pasture mowing . I have small 18 acre pasture something along that line would be great.
even a gang of reel mowers they they could sell to school districts and city parks departments.
Christy thinking it my turn to drive and thinking I look good driving this Tractor 😇😇😊😊
Excellent video. Deutz and Fendt had tool carriers but way bigger horsepower and price. This has a huge market in developing countries.
Neat machine
There was a tractor similar to this made in the eighties called Hefty G.
I like that tractor
I can see landscapers drooling.
The compact tractors work decently for this type of farming, except there just are not a lot of available implements. You can good tillers and disc for initial ground breaking, but then not much for cultivation. Makes organic difficult or a lot hand work.
Looks like a neat product concept.
Coy Patton That's why you do this in retirement ,so your son or grandson the machinist/fabricator can build you all the implements you need in his spare time.
Coy Patton , knowing the company they will come out with many attachments and tools.
Stephen Borntrager yes the rep/developer sounded as though that is in the works. My remarks of few attachments being available were directed toward the more traditional implements for compact tractors. Initial ground breaking is covered on many forms, but after that for plowing becomes very limited!
Tim you might be interested in looking at the "Oggun Tractor" made in Alabama. Its about the same horsepower but about half the price.
It's cool, seems pretty much inspired by a Farmall A. Ya or a G.
Very nice, Germany made the Schmotzer Kombi Record in the 50's and 60's so wide it have two steering wheels, very cool, google it
This would be an animal for seed research search companies around my area
Love the visibility
We have same views here, I am not more than 30 from where you are at Ventrac. Ron
Resembles the old Allis Chalmers Garden Tractor. Not many made but very highly desirable even today.
Discussed that in the video. Allis G
The G, a great machine from a amazing company
Also, why till less when you can tilmor
Agreed! I have trouble spelling Tilmor. I always want to add an ‘e’ at the end!
hi guys well its different. don`t know about that briggs engine. I would go diesel less problems. great video very interesting. god bless guys.
cool
I can see it filling a specialty market
Certainly was great visibility, and easy to ‘stay on the row’ while driving pretty fast.
Add a Front End Loader to it and it would be exponentially more valuable on a farm. With it's design, a removable loader could easily be added. I would not do a Hydraulic loader, but a 12 volt electric loader. Sometimes it is not about how fast something can do a job but that you can do a job. A small 1/4 yard bucket is better than no bucket at all and a 1/4 yard bucket would not over stress the frame. I have seen people put small electric 10/15 gallon front end loader buckets on ridging lawn tractors. Nice looking and functioning tractor though.
What this is definitely missing is quick-adjust rear rims (brain fart on what they're actually called) and it look a little tedious to change the front axle width too.. otherwise looks good!
Others like Oggun from Alabama and a few before that have copied the Model G design.
how does it compare with david brown 2d or the allis g
If i were going to go back into farming, on a small scale, i would buy a good old Ford or Massey, You can get just about any thing you need, for relatively cheap prices. The rotary hoe has been around for years, i used to use a good sized three point hitch John Deere. The trick is to go fast, and, use it just as the weeds start to emerge. The faster the better. I did a follow up with a regular row crop cultivator when the corn or beans were a bit farther along.
Nice video ! Where were you at ? That has to be very close to where I live now and where I grew up ? Thanks again !!!
Near Orrville, OHIO
I take it you can’t get four wheel drive ones?
looks like a great tractor. and do you know what attachments will be available for it.
Look at tilmor.com
Give me a good old case crossmotor. Be nice to bring an updated tractor like that back out, minus, of course, the steel wheels. Good show though. Which new tractor are you eyeballing though?
As we've mentioned, NONE at present. We have too much going on to look into this any further at this point.
I all ways wanted a Allis-Chalmers Model G, but they are hard to find and very expensive !!! they were great little tractors made for truck farming. The Tilmore could be a new replacement for the model G. Guess it will be easier to buy a new Tilmore than trying to find a model G. Wonder how expensive the Tilmore is ? Guess we won't know till 2019.
I'd guess in the 20-30K range, plus implements
Interesting. Like you said it does what it's designed to do very well. However it won't win any beauty contests.
Yea, I think they need someone a bit more 'artistic' to join the team :-)
Larry Mortimer, their equipment since day one over 60 years ago wouldn't win beauty contests but very functional.
Does it come with a grader blade cool unit thanks for sharing.
A mid mount grader blade would be nice for fine grading wouldn’t it?? However, I don’t think this unit is heavy enough in front to use an angle blade.
It does have a "rock box" up front. :-)
EOSJOE I was thinking it’s for adding counter weights since the engine is in the rear.
There was another company in Georgia, or at least I think it was, that made a very similar tractor for a few years but they couldn't find a market. It has a lift system and used a two cylinder Onan engine. There is one not to far from me, it had a manual transmission. I can't remember the name of the company right now.
Oggun?
HAK LTC1 would be a option for someone looking for something smaller
Kind of reminds me of a Allis Chalmers model g
Yep...as discussed in the video.
Loved the video y'all I've been searching for a lightweight garden tractor.The Allis Chalmers g, the Oggun and now the Tilmor are the type of garden tractor I'm wanting.Do you know what the price is on the Tilmor?
They have a phone number at tilmor.com