Hey Mike, Nice video, thank you for posting it. I been watching for a while, like you I love, love, love planes! Years ago I bought a Sonex A project. But family, work, and moving around a few states (CA, MI, GA) put a crimp in having a workshop to build a Sonex. Since those days they've come out with a model "B". A little larger inside, easier to build, etc. With same cruise speed and load. Kits are reasonably priced with options for 1 or 2 seats. Last time I checked they were saying you could get into the air with a 1 seat for around $23K (fus, engine, paint, interior, all.....). Schedule is opening up for me now, so I'm reconsidering what to build....I really appreciate hearing about all the things you're discovering!! You seem to really like the "fast glass" (as us old timers used to call them). What's your take on the cheaper, aluminum and pop-rivet options? BTW - A Sonex can cruise around 120/140 with a ~$4K engine
In 1978 a friend of mine own a Varieze. He flew out of Tweed. He would remove the nose wheel when parked. This is an incredible design by Burt Rutan. I am a Burt Rutan fan.
When I was installing cable In House one day came across a customer that was building an aircraft at home in his bsmt and the only door out went into his kitchen 🤔
That sounds like the old joke about someone building a boat in their basement. I have heard of people doing that, and it sounds stupid, but most of them actually do have a plan on how to get it out. The most common way is they plan the boat / plane build to be done around the time they start on an expansion project for their house. They'll dig new basement space next to the existing one and break down the wall to get the finished project out before the new addition gets built over it.
I mean after putting that many hours into something I personally wouldnt think twice about breaking something to get what prob costed 1 maybe 2 divorces and who knows how many beers lol.. so either they have an idea of how to get it out or they dont care about the wall he or she is gonna cut out to get it out as long as it gets out, but that's also a sure fire way to guarantee that no one is gonna break in and steal it from you when they dont have a way to get it out lol
I once built a cedar strip canoe in a storage building that was somewhat narrow and the only door was near the end of the building. When I finished the project I realized that I wouldn't be able to angle the canoe enough to get it out the door. It only took about 5 min with a chain saw to free my new canoe, it was however a rental house and storage building.
one guy built a replica of a Countach in his basement. After it was finished, he cut a hole in his basement wall, and dug in his yard, to drive the car away
Hi Mike, I believe the lsa speed limit is at sea level at Max continuous power... So some lsa aircraft post TAS cruise speeds well above that at 8k-12k.
The VariEze and LongEze are plans (scratch) built aeroplanes of which plans have no longer been sold since the closure of Rutan Aircraft Factory a long long time ago. But the Cozy IV plans (a LongEze based 4 seater) are readily available at very reasonable cost.
Hey Mike, I love your videos. I’ve never thought of pursuing any flight machines until recently. When I watched your factory tour of Mosquito helicopters, the bug bit me hard (pun intended). So thanks a lot for setting me on a path to spend money I don’t have. But those mosquitoes look like they would put a grin on your face that would take days to get rid of.
You are mistaken, Carne. The VariEze is two seat. The Long-EZ has a roomier front cockpit, but the rear cockpits are identical. The spellings are hard for people to remember, but the number of seats could not be more simple.
Thank you for this review. Years ago I was following the experimental line up pretty intensely.. super intense! Dad and I used to visit Air Venture and stay the whole week. But life happened, a couple recessions, lost a business or two, lost family members (including dad)... Now, after approaching retirement, I can finally dream again. If your list, only the Long Easy is the only one I'm familiar with. Although the first one bears a striking likeness to an earlier kit that used a mono wheel.
Everyone wants "fast" the point of being slow 3:31 are twofold #1. The Landings are easier because you have more time (meaning for instance; more time over the runway). #2 Slow Stall Speeds translate to shorter Takeoff rolls.
None of these is a practical machine but more a pipe dream. I think most people have no idea what goes into building one of these “kits”. Most who start, never actually finish but they end up as a hunk of parts on Craigslist. If you want to build a real kit plane you can actually finish and have builder support, resale value, speed and affordability then there’s only one. Vans! That’s it! IMO. Oh, one more thing,I built mine in the 90’s for $34,XXX. Yes, that’s right. $34 grand. Used O-320 and painted it myself.
The last airplane you discuss, the VariEze, is pronounced "very easy." That's because at the time, 1974-75, it was much easier to build than other plans-built aircraft. The N-number of the example in the video indicates that this is a fairly recent aircraft, built in June, 2003. It has several non-standard modifications, including the red paint, which is strictly forbidden. Red heats up almost as much as black. On a plastic surface the heat can actually melt the underlying structure!
Hey Mike. Love the channel. How powerful are the engines on these two seaters???? Can automobile engines be used? I am thinking about building an experimental aircraft, inspired by your channel 👍
Remember power, speed, and cost have exponential relationships to each other. Four times the power is needed to realize twice the speed. There is no discount for buying HP in bulk.
I'm pretty sure you can fly taildragger as a light sport pilot without a private pilot. You just need an endorsement. I think the major differentiating factor between the LSA and experimental model is the speed
All these fiberglass airpñanes are just like RC models on my opinion, but its only my opinion. That sling kit model you bought yes is aircraft because its made of aluminium.
What does that mean? Aircraft have been made out of many materials, and been of good quality. As long as the designer understands the material he is using, it will turn out good.
There is no such thing as an inexpensive airplane. About $70K and up is the entrance fee. Good to hear that the LSA regs are being upgraded. The LSA aircraft were too little aircraft for too much money.
I have built two Thorp T-18s, two Glasair TDs, a Rand KR-1, a Fisher Youngster, and I am currently finishing a Davis DA-2A and a Quickie Q-1. Obviously, I like to build airplanes. My most expensive plane to build was my second Glasair TD, which cost me about $35,000 complete, but of course, I had to build it. That TD is today worth maybe a little bit more than it cost. Generally, YOU LOSE MONEY on a homebuilt, that is unless you are building Carbon Cubs. The cheapest plane I have built was the Rand KR-1, which cost $1300 complete including the VW engine, which I rebuilt myself. Obviously, this is an extreme example, but it shows that airplanes don't have to be expensive if you have time and are willing to scrounge parts.
@DaveM,.. I do agree with you about no such thing as inexpensive plane.Although the $70k entrance I would have to disagree! Not tryna be a dik or anything!its just that I've seen some nice cloudhoppers {single engine carrying 2-4 passengers}under $20k. Yes a lil dated but low hours & excellent shape. I found a Cessna cub I 💭 think unsure exact name, it had seating for two people one in front of the other not side by side for $20k. The same lady owned another that carried up to 4 people total for $16k it was a 1978-80 year model but only had like 100hours on it! Wow 😳!! I thought this was too good to be true?? Turns out her husband died in a ski accident in Colorado 10+yrs back and he only flew the plane when they visited their vacation home there.So basically flew from eastern part of U.S (KY,Tenn,?)to Colorado once or twice a yr. He also kept the upkeep to very high standards in his hangar.Honestly, that's probably not a deal you'll come across daily, but,.. there's plenty planes for sale under $30k actually not bad looking at all. I guess it really comes down to what each individual is comfortable with
Depends what you want, I kind of want an ultralight being sold near me at $7,500. It’s not gold plated or anything but it’s a cute little bi-wing (18ft wingspan, 70 inch adjustable prop, 60 HP engine) in decent shape. Since it’s ultralight it wouldn’t need insurance/license or a lot of things so the cost is basically down to hanger fees (which if you live on farmland, it’s pretty cheap to hang it in a barn). Being an aerospace engineer I personally wouldn’t let any mechanic touch my car let alone a plane I would be trusting with my life (if a normal person can rebuild an automatic transmission, plane maintenance on something so simple as this type of aircraft really would just look like another day of working on a lawn mower). So really only hanger cost is deterring me from that. Otherwise multi-seat and yep, licensing and aircraft mechanics will really rack up that cost! I have seen some nice $8k all metal “experimental” (extremely by the books/generic design, but really well done) but they have bigger costs from maintenance and hanger fees (plus it was also 60HP except it weighed like 950 lbs!). I could make one cheaper myself, but really the cost of the plane itself is pretty low from what I’ve been looking at (plus I just need to save up for like 2 months to buy one used in good condition, and that’s probably faster than I could make one safely, with the benefit it’s been tested!)
I don’t have a problem with you picking your favorite five aircraft. I do have a problem with picking aircraft that are just ideas, not kits available to the public. The experimental space is infamous for concepts that never make it to market.
Cool video. I don't think you need a PPL to fly a tail-dragger. Pretty sure I've seen light sport aircraft with tailwheels. Also, the TAA designation (mentioned for the dark aero) has to do with having GPS and glass panel displays and not a FADEC equipped engine.
The KR-2 is great if you are 150lbs and your friend is the same size. I sat in one one time as a 200lbs 5'10" man (Average American size) and that thing was too tight. Also, I am a bit scared of a wooden home built. Some people do not use the right glue and such.
So I’ve seen a bunch of your videos and I noticed I’ve never heard you mention kit fox in any of the videos I’ve seen, the reason this is strange to me is that outfox is arguably the most desirable kit plane to ever fly. Also it falls into many of the price points you’ve mentioned for other aircraft. I’m sure you know them and I think it’s unfair not to give them some attention
120kt is 138MPH, not 132. Other planes you could build in this budget (and actually finish them, not just pay for the kit) are: Vans RV-7, Kitfox 7 (and most other Avid Flyer-based aircraft like the SuperSTOL), any Rans aircraft, any Zenith aircraft, Bearhawk LSA (a taildragger -- yes, LSAs can be taildraggers) and of course the Sonex.
You never mention the Mini-Max line, that can be purchased for less than 10k! I bought my Eros, used, for $3,500, ready to fly! $9 per hour to operate! Can you find me one cheaper? All of these are at least 3 times more! $100,000? I would purchase a used production plane first! Why not make one on affordability? We can all dream of a Glasaiir, but we are limited by $!
@@swelch140 I have the Eros experimental, with 20 gallons of gas and 5 hour endurance. Had it over Mt Saint Helens at 11,400 feet. there is video of it on my channel. It even has ADSB, and EFIS. Check it out. czcams.com/video/xOGkTK3zMH8/video.html
Hai , I never would take place in a sabrewing . In case if savty you dont put the mass on top of a wing because its flip flaping dangerous. the weight has to be put under or half wings
I want to see a light sport, low wing aircraft fitted with a turbocharged V8 that makes 1000hp at 6,500rpm, but makes 400hp and 600lb ft tq at 2,000rpm, so that the aircraft can cruise at like 300knts and almost go mach at full throttle. Ironically it would probably be more fuel efficient than the same light sport fitted with a conventional aircraft engine, as they have to really turn high rpm to get the plane moving.
Umm. Problem 1 is heat rejection. There's lots of heat and no way to get rid of it. Problem 2 is a turbo that will get a 400ci engine to 1000hp won't even consider making boost at 2000 rpm. I don't think any car V8 can make 400hp at 2000 rpm on any fuel that's not methanol. Aircraft engines are not high revving, they are very low revving. This keeps heat production down and engine reliability high, two things planes absolutely need.
anyone know which is the easiest (for a novice builder) kitplane to build (with all prebuild options) among the popular models (sling, europa, vans RV, lightning) with good performance?
Thank you man I have a dream to build or buy my own plane before I die. I am excited to see that there is a way to build a plane this what I want in my life. What I can do to realize my dream before I die. I need more advice to start working upon my dream. I love your youtube channel . I need more info.
Si, vous présentiez un " Projet électrique Volant " ce serait plus pertinent ! If, you presented a " Flying Electric Project " it would be more relevant !
Make that was a very nice video I remember the veryeasr back in the mid-80s,. Got 5 instruction on it and I could not believe how she flew compared to the 172
Almost 3 of the 7 minutes you spent on the Saber. Hummm. Tells us a lot about which one YOU like. So the # 1 and # 2 are both the SAME aircraft with just different gear configurations. Come on man, you said "5" aircraft and NOT "4" aircraft. The Avocet AV24 and the Dark Aero are DREAM planes that have NOT flown yet. Once they do THEN you can include them as aircraft. Right now they are ONLY concepts. Having a great idea doesn't make it a reality. I know you are young and NEW to aviation but trust me, after 38 years as a pilot like me, there have been a LOT of aircraft that NEVER made it to the market. Many that do sell a few kits and then are gone. Until these aircraft have flown and been tested for at least two years, you should not even be looking at them in your list. After all, right now as of 2020 only TWO of these four aircraft you talked about meet your video title ".. Can be built in your garage." BTW, I have built three aircraft and designed two. No one knows about my two aircraft because until they are available for sale, I am not telling anyone about them. But Mike, if you want to know more about my aircraft and me, just message me. I too have a youtube channel and facebook.
So double or triple the cost … if it’s 1200-1500 hours, that’s a year or so at 20 hours a week, a bit less if 40 hrs a week…full time.. + all tools and supplies… real investment seems to be more like 3X yeah? If you’re accounting for all the hours that could be considered working hours of earned $. Just interested. Not complaining. Must be an incredible feeling of accomplishment when done. Wow
Not even gonna mentioning Vans RV's or the Lancair? My dad and I actually DID build a Lancair 320 in the garage. My uncle built built an RV in his basement. (He literally had to dig a hole and bust a hole in the basement wall to get it out. If you're interested: czcams.com/video/Cw4Tdm6Czdo/video.html ) Now HUGE disclaimer: It took them both a little more than a decade to build. Mainly because we'd only buy parts as we'd be able to afford them, nevertheless, unless you're rich and have time to dedicate, it's gonna take a lot of time.
does anyone know who happens to have the most thorough, detailed, easy to follow builder manual for these kitplanes. I want to buy a kitplane and build it but I have seen some of these builder manuals and they are pretty lousy.
Did I hear you right? Did you say that in the USA you need a PPL to fly a taildragger? If so you guys seems to have a bunch of different rules over there. A Sport Pilot where I live can fly an in flight adjustable prop, a taildragger and retractable landing gear.
No, the taildragger part isnt the issue. The plane is too heavy and fast to be a LSA due to US regulations. It just also happens to be a taildragger. The big two limitations are max gross weight and speed.
I've heard his last words spoken directly to another person was Denver complaining over the fuel valve being fitted so that he couldn't reach it safely... Some peculiar decision-making there. "I can't reach the fuel valve when airborne.... let's not refuel before the flight...."
I just want a cheap reliable taildragger preferably with a diesel engine, with structural reinforcement, and provision to carry 4 x 50lb bombs.
that's what I've been saying!
google, show me this guy's balls
Bro….
AYO ???
Your m wants a tail glider loljk
Id suggest a Cessna
Hey Mike,
Nice video, thank you for posting it.
I been watching for a while, like you I love, love, love planes!
Years ago I bought a Sonex A project. But family, work, and moving around a few states (CA, MI, GA) put a crimp in having a workshop to build a Sonex. Since those days they've come out with a model "B". A little larger inside, easier to build, etc. With same cruise speed and load.
Kits are reasonably priced with options for 1 or 2 seats. Last time I checked they were saying you could get into the air with a 1 seat for around $23K (fus, engine, paint, interior, all.....).
Schedule is opening up for me now, so I'm reconsidering what to build....I really appreciate hearing about all the things you're discovering!! You seem to really like the "fast glass" (as us old timers used to call them). What's your take on the cheaper, aluminum and pop-rivet options?
BTW - A Sonex can cruise around 120/140 with a ~$4K engine
In 1978 a friend of mine own a Varieze. He flew out of Tweed. He would remove the nose wheel when parked. This is an incredible design by Burt Rutan. I am a Burt Rutan fan.
LSA includes tail dragger i.e. cub, champ, rans has several. You just have to be checked out. Conventional gear is not restricted.
When I was installing cable In House one day came across a customer that was building an aircraft at home in his bsmt and the only door out went into his kitchen 🤔
That sounds like the old joke about someone building a boat in their basement. I have heard of people doing that, and it sounds stupid, but most of them actually do have a plan on how to get it out. The most common way is they plan the boat / plane build to be done around the time they start on an expansion project for their house. They'll dig new basement space next to the existing one and break down the wall to get the finished project out before the new addition gets built over it.
I have heard more than one story about people cutting holes in their houses to get their completed projects out... whups!
I mean after putting that many hours into something I personally wouldnt think twice about breaking something to get what prob costed 1 maybe 2 divorces and who knows how many beers lol.. so either they have an idea of how to get it out or they dont care about the wall he or she is gonna cut out to get it out as long as it gets out, but that's also a sure fire way to guarantee that no one is gonna break in and steal it from you when they dont have a way to get it out lol
I once built a cedar strip canoe in a storage building that was somewhat narrow and the only door was near the end of the building. When I finished the project I realized that I wouldn't be able to angle the canoe enough to get it out the door. It only took about 5 min with a chain saw to free my new canoe, it was however a rental house and storage building.
one guy built a replica of a Countach in his basement. After it was finished, he cut a hole in his basement wall, and dug in his yard, to drive the car away
Hi Mike,
I believe the lsa speed limit is at sea level at Max continuous power... So some lsa aircraft post TAS cruise speeds well above that at 8k-12k.
The VariEze and LongEze are plans (scratch) built aeroplanes of which plans have no longer been sold since the closure of Rutan Aircraft Factory a long long time ago. But the Cozy IV plans (a LongEze based 4 seater) are readily available at very reasonable cost.
Hey Mike, I love your videos. I’ve never thought of pursuing any flight machines until recently. When I watched your factory tour of Mosquito helicopters, the bug bit me hard (pun intended). So thanks a lot for setting me on a path to spend money I don’t have. But those mosquitoes look like they would put a grin on your face that would take days to get rid of.
Dark Aero looks very good and sleek design. Thanks for the post
They look like a Glassair ripoff to me. Nothing original about it from all the videos I have watched about the three brothers.
It's cool.. and looks very fun to fly, i love it.
Good one showing all the newer designs coming out.
Last one is a Long-Eze. The Vari-Eze is a single seater, if I’m not mistaken. Plans and material kits may still be available from Aircraft Spruce.
@@EatPezzzz hey, stop getting hung up on specifics, Mike does this channel for non pilots. It will go 2000 miles if you refuel it
You are mistaken, Carne. The VariEze is two seat. The Long-EZ has a roomier front cockpit, but the rear cockpits are identical. The spellings are hard for people to remember, but the number of seats could not be more simple.
This channel kicks ass.
I never going to fly nor do I want to but I like learning about it.
Thank you for this review.
Years ago I was following the experimental line up pretty intensely.. super intense! Dad and I used to visit Air Venture and stay the whole week.
But life happened, a couple recessions, lost a business or two, lost family members (including dad)...
Now, after approaching retirement, I can finally dream again. If your list, only the Long Easy is the only one I'm familiar with. Although the first one bears a striking likeness to an earlier kit that used a mono wheel.
The Zenith 650 is a fantastic aircraft that also costs less than $100,000 to build
Nearly the entire line of Zenith aircraft could be built to this budget.
Man, I have been doing so much research. This helped menbig time
Can you go over the tools and mechanical experience needed to build one of these airplanes in another video?
I love your voice it‘s damn calm!
Everyone wants "fast" the point of being slow 3:31 are twofold #1. The Landings are easier because you have more time (meaning for instance; more time over the runway). #2 Slow Stall Speeds translate to shorter Takeoff rolls.
I've been up in a long EZ. Truly an amazing plane
Berkut, Cozy IV and EZes are the best, most fun and most fuel efficient.
Where’s the plane in the thumbnail???
4th plane in the video
It's the 4th one, it's still a concept and still technically a concept that hasn't been fully built, tested, and certified...
@Noah um, what?
I don't know if you missed them or don't prefer them but I've always enjoyed the kr2 and Mustang II
KR2
Really enjoy your videos by the way:) good job
A video like this should mention Vans aircraft.
And Mini-Max! For the money and fun factor, it is MUCH cheaper than ANY Van's!
Great list. I wonder if you could do a similar one for my favorite types of plane: pushers with retractable gear?
MG, those Dark Aero kids are onto something. I like the concept.
I am an aero kid
Dark aero is fantastic
None of these is a practical machine but more a pipe dream. I think most people have no idea what goes into building one of these “kits”. Most who start, never actually finish but they end up as a hunk of parts on Craigslist. If you want to build a real kit plane you can actually finish and have builder support, resale value, speed and affordability then there’s only one. Vans! That’s it! IMO. Oh, one more thing,I built mine in the 90’s for $34,XXX. Yes, that’s right. $34 grand. Used O-320 and painted it myself.
the sonex and cub crafters are both LSA tail draggers, so I dont understand the comments about the Sabre wing LSA
The last airplane you discuss, the VariEze, is pronounced "very easy." That's because at the time, 1974-75, it was much easier to build than other plans-built aircraft. The N-number of the example in the video indicates that this is a fairly recent aircraft, built in June, 2003. It has several non-standard modifications, including the red paint, which is strictly forbidden. Red heats up almost as much as black. On a plastic surface the heat can actually melt the underlying structure!
1:06 VFR cloud separation much?
Hey Mike. Love the channel. How powerful are the engines on these two seaters????
Can automobile engines be used?
I am thinking about building an experimental aircraft, inspired by your channel 👍
Saberwings = 100 HP
AV24 = 180 HP
Darkaero = 200 HP
Varieze = 115 HP
Remember power, speed, and cost have exponential relationships to each other.
Four times the power is needed to realize twice the speed.
There is no discount for buying HP in bulk.
Mike thanks for sharing buddy.
Dark Aero ❤
I'm pretty sure you can fly taildragger as a light sport pilot without a private pilot. You just need an endorsement. I think the major differentiating factor between the LSA and experimental model is the speed
Great video... Keep em coming.
Awesome super efficient airplanes!
Should one buy homebuilt aircraft if they don't have an engineering background? Are homebuilt aircraft complicated?
The title says "you can buy" while 4 of these planes/kits you cannot actually buy!
Now the title says "5 you can build.." but it turns out you can't build the Varieze!
@Sheridan Isashitstain THE VIDEO IS ABOUT PLANES YOU CAN BUILD IN YOUR GAGAREG. But you cant build the varieze!
Keep struggling under those self imposed limitations and restraints, fail proof !
CanadaManEg lets just dislike this shir
Fuck this liar...
All these fiberglass airpñanes are just like RC models on my opinion, but its only my opinion. That sling kit model you bought yes is aircraft because its made of aluminium.
What does that mean? Aircraft have been made out of many materials, and been of good quality. As long as the designer understands the material he is using, it will turn out good.
Awesome video Mike 👍❤
Veri ease is one awesome looking light aircraft...
Where's the plane in the thumbnail?? That's what I wanted to see,..
The Dark Aero design is the one from the thumbnail.
@@MilesB1975 ,.. for real?? o.k. thx for headsup!
There is no such thing as an inexpensive airplane. About $70K and up is the entrance fee.
Good to hear that the LSA regs are being upgraded. The LSA aircraft were too little aircraft for too much money.
I have built two Thorp T-18s, two Glasair TDs, a Rand KR-1, a Fisher Youngster, and I am currently finishing a Davis DA-2A and a Quickie Q-1. Obviously, I like to build airplanes. My most expensive plane to build was my second Glasair TD, which cost me about $35,000 complete, but of course, I had to build it. That TD is today worth maybe a little bit more than it cost. Generally, YOU LOSE MONEY on a homebuilt, that is unless you are building Carbon Cubs. The cheapest plane I have built was the Rand KR-1, which cost $1300 complete including the VW engine, which I rebuilt myself. Obviously, this is an extreme example, but it shows that airplanes don't have to be expensive if you have time and are willing to scrounge parts.
@DaveM,.. I do agree with you about no such thing as inexpensive plane.Although the $70k entrance I would have to disagree! Not tryna be a dik or anything!its just that I've seen some nice cloudhoppers {single engine carrying 2-4 passengers}under $20k. Yes a lil dated but low hours & excellent shape. I found a Cessna cub I 💭 think unsure exact name, it had seating for two people one in front of the other not side by side for $20k. The same lady owned another that carried up to 4 people total for $16k it was a 1978-80 year model but only had like 100hours on it! Wow 😳!! I thought this was too good to be true?? Turns out her husband died in a ski accident in Colorado 10+yrs back and he only flew the plane when they visited their vacation home there.So basically flew from eastern part of U.S (KY,Tenn,?)to Colorado once or twice a yr. He also kept the upkeep to very high standards in his hangar.Honestly, that's probably not a deal you'll come across daily, but,.. there's plenty planes for sale under $30k actually not bad looking at all. I guess it really comes down to what each individual is comfortable with
Depends what you want, I kind of want an ultralight being sold near me at $7,500. It’s not gold plated or anything but it’s a cute little bi-wing (18ft wingspan, 70 inch adjustable prop, 60 HP engine) in decent shape. Since it’s ultralight it wouldn’t need insurance/license or a lot of things so the cost is basically down to hanger fees (which if you live on farmland, it’s pretty cheap to hang it in a barn). Being an aerospace engineer I personally wouldn’t let any mechanic touch my car let alone a plane I would be trusting with my life (if a normal person can rebuild an automatic transmission, plane maintenance on something so simple as this type of aircraft really would just look like another day of working on a lawn mower). So really only hanger cost is deterring me from that. Otherwise multi-seat and yep, licensing and aircraft mechanics will really rack up that cost! I have seen some nice $8k all metal “experimental” (extremely by the books/generic design, but really well done) but they have bigger costs from maintenance and hanger fees (plus it was also 60HP except it weighed like 950 lbs!).
I could make one cheaper myself, but really the cost of the plane itself is pretty low from what I’ve been looking at (plus I just need to save up for like 2 months to buy one used in good condition, and that’s probably faster than I could make one safely, with the benefit it’s been tested!)
Really loved this video Mike👌👍
Nice Mike... tks..
I don’t have a problem with you picking your favorite five aircraft. I do have a problem with picking aircraft that are just ideas, not kits available to the public. The experimental space is infamous for concepts that never make it to market.
Cool video. I don't think you need a PPL to fly a tail-dragger. Pretty sure I've seen light sport aircraft with tailwheels.
Also, the TAA designation (mentioned for the dark aero) has to do with having GPS and glass panel displays and not a FADEC equipped engine.
You missed the Rand KR2-S. Check it out, you just might be impressed! Cheers from Winnipeg.
The KR-2 is great if you are 150lbs and your friend is the same size. I sat in one one time as a 200lbs 5'10" man (Average American size) and that thing was too tight. Also, I am a bit scared of a wooden home built. Some people do not use the right glue and such.
Great video but I wouldn't fly in anything I've put together.
You couldn't do a worse job than some of the work done on the B737NG's. I'd prefer to fly most homebuilts above that crap.
So I’ve seen a bunch of your videos and I noticed I’ve never heard you mention kit fox in any of the videos I’ve seen, the reason this is strange to me is that outfox is arguably the most desirable kit plane to ever fly. Also it falls into many of the price points you’ve mentioned for other aircraft. I’m sure you know them and I think it’s unfair not to give them some attention
120kt is 138MPH, not 132.
Other planes you could build in this budget (and actually finish them, not just pay for the kit) are: Vans RV-7, Kitfox 7 (and most other Avid Flyer-based aircraft like the SuperSTOL), any Rans aircraft, any Zenith aircraft, Bearhawk LSA (a taildragger -- yes, LSAs can be taildraggers) and of course the Sonex.
Thank you Mike
You never mention the Mini-Max line, that can be purchased for less than 10k! I bought my Eros, used, for $3,500, ready to fly! $9 per hour to operate! Can you find me one cheaper? All of these are at least 3 times more! $100,000? I would purchase a used production plane first! Why not make one on affordability? We can all dream of a Glasaiir, but we are limited by $!
Minimax doesn't really work well as a cross country plane
@@swelch140 I have the Eros experimental, with 20 gallons of gas and 5 hour endurance. Had it over Mt Saint Helens at 11,400 feet. there is video of it on my channel. It even has ADSB, and EFIS. Check it out. czcams.com/video/xOGkTK3zMH8/video.html
Great video but I struggled to hear you over the music
Apologies. will watch out for post production in future videos. Appreciate the feedback.
Hai , I never would take place in a sabrewing . In case if savty you dont put the mass on top of a wing because its flip flaping dangerous. the weight has to be put under or half wings
Nice presentation. I enjoy the vids. Subscriber! Keep 'em coming. 👍
I want to see a light sport, low wing aircraft fitted with a turbocharged V8 that makes 1000hp at 6,500rpm, but makes 400hp and 600lb ft tq at 2,000rpm, so that the aircraft can cruise at like 300knts and almost go mach at full throttle.
Ironically it would probably be more fuel efficient than the same light sport fitted with a conventional aircraft engine, as they have to really turn high rpm to get the plane moving.
Umm.
Problem 1 is heat rejection. There's lots of heat and no way to get rid of it.
Problem 2 is a turbo that will get a 400ci engine to 1000hp won't even consider making boost at 2000 rpm. I don't think any car V8 can make 400hp at 2000 rpm on any fuel that's not methanol.
Aircraft engines are not high revving, they are very low revving. This keeps heat production down and engine reliability high, two things planes absolutely need.
anyone know which is the easiest (for a novice builder) kitplane to build (with all prebuild options) among the popular models (sling, europa, vans RV, lightning) with good performance?
Saberwing looks very low to the ground, seems like that could be an issue on cross-wind landings.
Yeahhhhh thining the same thing
It’s a tail wheel type so respect a low crosswind limit or pay the price.
Thank you man I have a dream to build or buy my own plane before I die.
I am excited to see that there is a way to build a plane this what I want in my life.
What I can do to realize my dream before I die.
I need more advice to start working upon my dream.
I love your youtube channel .
I need more info.
Hi Mike. I very much like all your videos. In this one I miss the RV-12. Would be cool if you can check out the -12 and make a clip
The AV 24 with retractable gears would be absolutely perfect 👌
It's called a Lancair. hahaha
Danny Creech yeah that’s true... 😂😂
What’s the price of a jet engined plane? Is a special license required to fly one?
what is the airplane that is on the beginning siting on the ground???
the dark aero seems kinda alluring
How about one of these for tricycle gear? Not everyone has or can get a tail-wheel endorsement
Av24 looks just like a sport cruiser. Just has about 18” longer legs.
Si, vous présentiez un " Projet électrique Volant " ce serait plus pertinent !
If, you presented a " Flying Electric Project " it would be more relevant !
Exelente hermano
Forget the dark arrow for 200k like everybody has that in the back pocket, just buy a F15 with a drop tank which you fit at home, so it's a kit plane
Make that was a very nice video I remember the veryeasr back in the mid-80s,. Got 5 instruction on it and I could not believe how she flew compared to the 172
What about small wingspan planes? I'm new to your site
Almost 3 of the 7 minutes you spent on the Saber. Hummm. Tells us a lot about which one YOU like. So the # 1 and # 2 are both the SAME aircraft with just different gear configurations. Come on man, you said "5" aircraft and NOT "4" aircraft. The Avocet AV24 and the Dark Aero are DREAM planes that have NOT flown yet. Once they do THEN you can include them as aircraft. Right now they are ONLY concepts. Having a great idea doesn't make it a reality. I know you are young and NEW to aviation but trust me, after 38 years as a pilot like me, there have been a LOT of aircraft that NEVER made it to the market. Many that do sell a few kits and then are gone. Until these aircraft have flown and been tested for at least two years, you should not even be looking at them in your list. After all, right now as of 2020 only TWO of these four aircraft you talked about meet your video title ".. Can be built in your garage." BTW, I have built three aircraft and designed two. No one knows about my two aircraft because until they are available for sale, I am not telling anyone about them. But Mike, if you want to know more about my aircraft and me, just message me. I too have a youtube channel and facebook.
thanks for that fabulous video
can you let us know which experimental airplane is open source
Middle salary in Russia: 460$
Always ready to build airplane for 30000$ in my garage
So double or triple the cost … if it’s 1200-1500 hours, that’s a year or so at 20 hours a week, a bit less if 40 hrs a week…full time.. + all tools and supplies… real investment seems to be more like 3X yeah? If you’re accounting for all the hours that could be considered working hours of earned $. Just interested. Not complaining. Must be an incredible feeling of accomplishment when done. Wow
Wait a minute! An LSA that requires a Private license? How does that work?
They got that wrong. You dont need a PPL, you just need the relevant training and endorsement on your LSA.
Not even gonna mentioning Vans RV's or the Lancair? My dad and I actually DID build a Lancair 320 in the garage. My uncle built built an RV in his basement. (He literally had to dig a hole and bust a hole in the basement wall to get it out. If you're interested: czcams.com/video/Cw4Tdm6Czdo/video.html )
Now HUGE disclaimer: It took them both a little more than a decade to build. Mainly because we'd only buy parts as we'd be able to afford them, nevertheless, unless you're rich and have time to dedicate, it's gonna take a lot of time.
Instead of the variez, you should be talking about the LongEz. Bigger, better all around.
I would love the Dark Aero 1. FO SHO
THE ORIGIN OF EXPERIMENTAL
AEROBATIC CAPABLE AIRCRAFT...
... is it found in this list ??
Currently sold as ...
Sequoia FALCO F.8
Hi sir I’m Bangladeshi. Can I know how much feet long this aircraft wing
What about a jabiru? Similar money...4seats...
1:09
woah woah did he say 1200 to 1500 hours
damn
Cheapest way to get airborne is with a powered paraglider my brother got in the air for about £5k and that includes his lessons to learn how.
does anyone know who happens to have the most thorough, detailed, easy to follow builder manual for these kitplanes. I want to buy a kitplane and build it but I have seen some of these builder manuals and they are pretty lousy.
Mike do you have any recommendations on STOL airplanes?
There’s a Fokker dr.1 kit for 100kish
Wait at @1:03 is he saying "only burning 57 (67?) gallons per hour"? Only? Is that right?
"only burning six to seven gallons per hour." You're welcome.
Thumbnail plane DARK AERO looks *MEAN* I think it stole the show
Dark Aero was at Oshkosh in July 19. Just think what It'd do with a 265 HP motor on it! Burn less fuel and 87 Octane too!
cant hear you over the "back ground" music! why do you use it?
Mike that Vari ez was the first plane I built. I refurbushed it a couple years ago. If you know anyone looking for a canard contact me on FB.
Did I hear you right? Did you say that in the USA you need a PPL to fly a taildragger? If so you guys seems to have a bunch of different rules over there. A Sport Pilot where I live can fly an in flight adjustable prop, a taildragger and retractable landing gear.
No, the taildragger part isnt the issue. The plane is too heavy and fast to be a LSA due to US regulations. It just also happens to be a taildragger. The big two limitations are max gross weight and speed.
Mojo mike thinks it’s import to provide general info. Specifics and accuracy aren’t import just the general stuff
Retractable gears are not legal in US sport pilot
Anyone know what the plane was in the thumbnail? It looked gorgeous and I am looking for more info on it.
Its called the DarkAero 1
Bro which software is used for designing
Lol I'm going to do these 🤣
John Denver disapproves
I've heard his last words spoken directly to another person was Denver complaining over the fuel valve being fitted so that he couldn't reach it safely...
Some peculiar decision-making there. "I can't reach the fuel valve when airborne.... let's not refuel before the flight...."
Do we need pilot liscence for this 2 seater?
This is a very nice video and extremely interesting. The music is very annoying and not needed as it is a great distraction.