LONG STROKE VS SHORT STROKE - WHAT EACH ONE DOES!

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  • čas přidán 7. 05. 2020
  • WHATS UP PEOPLE!
    First of all hope you are all staying safe out there! thanks so much again for the support during this time!
    In this video i talk about different stroke lengths and which one typically does during the tattoo procedure! i would love to know anything else anyone wants to know that i can explain in a video to put up on this channel so please get in the comments section and let me know!
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Komentáře • 231

  • @Johanna-gz9tt
    @Johanna-gz9tt Před 3 lety +12

    Again, you're awesome, the way you talk is so much nicer to listen to compared to some other people giving tattooing advice on youtube.

  • @kchun5515
    @kchun5515 Před 3 lety +11

    i like how the advertisements that come out are all related to strokes(heart strokes and aneurysms) lmao

  • @dubmelo6814
    @dubmelo6814 Před 4 lety +10

    Keep doing what you’re doing you are basically my teacher you helped improve my work x10

  • @snakeeyes1662
    @snakeeyes1662 Před 4 lety +97

    Long stroke hits the cervex wall

    • @OLIVERAYRE
      @OLIVERAYRE  Před 4 lety +10

      hahahahahaha

    • @chriswolf3042
      @chriswolf3042 Před 4 lety +5

      only with a 9 mag and up , a 3rnd long stroke will traumatize the client

    • @Genxpoppy
      @Genxpoppy Před 4 lety +2

      @italo romero I find the longer stroke can knock the cervex sideways!

    • @Gobblinghouls
      @Gobblinghouls Před 3 lety +1

      I broke the cervix. Too aggressive

    • @ericthemovieguy
      @ericthemovieguy Před 2 lety

      We know. And so does your mom

  • @jenessadrebet6956
    @jenessadrebet6956 Před 4 lety +7

    Great advise. I like to use the 4 mm for lining as most of my clients have tough skin. ( I am in Costa Rica with lots of suntanned skin) unless they are tourist from other countries who have soft skin. Glad you said many times about being careful not chewing up the skin and about it healing.

  • @kennethhollins1098
    @kennethhollins1098 Před 3 lety +2

    Thanks bro you brake it down perfect for me I'm a new artist in the tattoo world and you help out a lot thanks again

  • @kennethpippin9324
    @kennethpippin9324 Před 3 lety

    4.5 has been my go to stroke but this video has opened my eyes a bit. Thanks

  • @utpolstattoosandvlogs87
    @utpolstattoosandvlogs87 Před 4 lety +1

    Always you are The Best tattoo Artist to me..
    I'm learning a lot of things day after day from you bro.. Really so helpful advice for me / us..
    Love from Bangladesh 🇧🇩

  • @yourtrustyservantpat
    @yourtrustyservantpat Před 3 lety +3

    Great video! I use a 4mm stroke for lining and whip shading American Traditional tattoos!

  • @leighwaters7123
    @leighwaters7123 Před 4 lety +2

    As always another great video. Missed you when you were at the MK Tattoo Convention. I've been using the Dragonhawk Extreme X2 recently over my older Stealth 1 (Prefer Armature over Direct). With the adjuster dial you can change the stroke and hit of the needle. It's a decent machine that gives good smooth lines, shading and packing.

  • @fanboyslayer338
    @fanboyslayer338 Před 4 lety

    Watched ever video you made I'm a huge fan & we have a similar style so your videos are the best..thanks for the exclusive advice & Blessings your way mate

  • @eliseolorcabuch9830
    @eliseolorcabuch9830 Před 4 lety +3

    I use 4.2 stroke for lines, packing ando shading, but i use a click grip to set the deepnes. :)

  • @knucklezdezigns3378
    @knucklezdezigns3378 Před 4 lety

    thank you for vidz...been followinyou for while now and you have truly helped me improve my skillz....appreciate it !!! keep em coming.. lmk how to support!

  • @lucienr.4905
    @lucienr.4905 Před 4 lety +1

    This is a great video! Loved it!

  • @SampaioRenan
    @SampaioRenan Před 3 lety +14

    Nice vídeo man! Just want to say that rpm and the motor matters too. Theres a lot of machines with 3.5mm that are more Powerfull than some 4.0mm machines. And there are some machines with 3.5 that run like a 2.5/2.8 machines. All things matter. 🙏🏻

  • @miketodd2941
    @miketodd2941 Před rokem

    Loving the channel 😃 I’m a new artist and I’ve learnt alot from your videos, I’m using the dragonhawk pro fold

  • @ThoughtformsOverstood
    @ThoughtformsOverstood Před 4 lety

    Dude your timing is so 🎱. Was just thinking about this but couldn't put it into words. Your Geometry is dope btw.

  • @chestercopperpot8912
    @chestercopperpot8912 Před 4 lety

    Excellent info as always. Thanks man!

  • @liamworsey7926
    @liamworsey7926 Před 4 lety

    Thank-you for the tutorials you do really helpful bro

  • @mellloydcanlas2684
    @mellloydcanlas2684 Před 4 lety

    Bro all your vids is helps me. Great job👌

  • @inkedallegiance1227
    @inkedallegiance1227 Před 4 lety +4

    Hey bro you need to check out the Axys Valhalla one machine it has adjustable strokes on the fly it features 5 different strokes ! Pretty nice built machine super smooth and the grips are twice as affordable as most machines of its style love your videos tho keep it up bro !

  • @neilknox2587
    @neilknox2587 Před 4 lety

    I like what you said, everything you said is gospel bro I found this out on my own by trying different cams , I currently use 3.5 mm for most of what I do.

  • @xentattoo6464
    @xentattoo6464 Před 4 lety

    I agree with you. 4.2-4.5mm for lining and whipshading is top.

  • @ivanmendoza8457
    @ivanmendoza8457 Před 4 lety +4

    Dude ive been using the bishop wand liner with a 5mm stroke which is crazy but it works great

  • @meinhandy9523
    @meinhandy9523 Před 4 lety +1

    thank you so much for this video :D
    helped me very much, i use the halo 2 from fk irons with the 3.5 mm stoke

  • @minaszerai3018
    @minaszerai3018 Před 4 lety +1

    Man you're the best 🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽

  • @madech7363
    @madech7363 Před 3 lety

    Oliver mate you're bloody legend

  • @vihangaraveen8891
    @vihangaraveen8891 Před 4 lety

    Thanks man. Helped me a lot 🙏

  • @djs9315
    @djs9315 Před 3 lety +7

    Your videos are very clear concise info m8.. guys who are new in the game can learn much from you and save em selves learning by error.
    Although I did half an apprenticeship, which taught me enough, the studio.. as many do, were using me much more than teaching me, I got wise to it (beware guys.. make sure they're not just gonna use u).. we fell out, quite dramatically on the shop floor 😂😂.. however, I learned the business backwards.. hygiene/avoiding contamination etc, preparing stencils, bookings/deposits & consultations etc etc.. plus I realised quite quickly that bar one artist in the shop, they were all dreadful, and without sounding big headed, I kinda new that once I learned to tattoo, I'd be better than them. So.. if you have artistic/creative ability and drive and dedication.. you will succeed.. clients will come, if the works good, more will come.
    Regarding stroke/ throw/give.. learning g with s coil helped alot.. thectransition to direct drive Rotaries wasnt an issue.. infact, I love em from the get go.. no more hand cramps/hands feeling like they'd been plugged into the mains after.. I still love Coils, but my hands dont 😬..
    I find a 4.2 stroke on the Edge X is great, i really do t find it much more dramatic than the 3.7 cam if I'm honest.. bit more punchy but I've never chewed anyone up with it.
    The Xion is MUCH better (black n grey, and especially portrait) with the 3.7 stroke cam.. the 3.2 is just to soft.. a 4hr tattoo would become a 5+ hour tattoo on the 3 2. The 3.7 is smooth and def makes a difference with this machine. Not the machine in general though for those who wanna all round work super quick.. but if your about quality super smooth shading.. the xion is great once you find your sweet spot. The give thingy ain't really necessary.. I bought into all that jazz for a while. But it's a minor shift, almost dampened the hit a lil in my opinion.. you hand can do the give for you.. learn this, pay attention, dont go to heavy to fast.. and you'll be fine..
    The Cheyenne sol nova Unlimited... absolutely great for ease and an all rounder.. however.. I do still prefer the Xion for super smooth shading.. seems to layer it up a lil better.. but the work I've done over last few months with the sol unlimited has healed absolutely amazingly..
    over time.. you find your own way.. I've owned cheap coils.. well made coils.. magnetic system machines.. Direct drives, and various pen machines, with various strokes and give systems.. they all produce good tattoos..
    Put the hours in.. gain the experience.. dont expect not to make some mistakes, you will and in that you learn. PUT THE HOURS IN. DEDICATE YOURSELF!!
    You can learn loads from guys like Oliver.. not many artists are willing to share in depth knowledge n tricks they picked up along the road..
    Note.. if your creative, but not an artist.. stick to bold traditional or geometric, dot work, etc.. please dont say yes to doing a portrait.. that is a skill you just cant buy.. that, is a god given talent.. and even that takes time to understand when working with grey wash ink that heals 30% lighter than in the application.. so, all you pen n paper portrait artists.. dont think you can just slip straight into this.. if you have the talent, you def WILL be able to do portrait tattoos..once you've learned the ropes.. drawing on paper is completely different to skin.
    Good luck 😉👍

    • @swervv2957
      @swervv2957 Před 2 lety

      Man bro your comment helped me very much! I needed that comment right now and was very important to me. Asked all over with no answer! Smh. …. Pertaining to the Xion machine, with the 3.2 and 3.7 stroke. And the give setting that you can adjust. I’m also new to tattooing, been constantly and consistently non stop practicing for about a year. 5 months on fake skin and for the last 6 months started off of myself doing up my legs and thighs. Then onto some people these last 4 months. I’m told I’m pretty damn good and people don’t believe I was self taught from watching people like Oliver. But I put in so much time and effort on myself and trial and error. Lucky not too much error lol. But I just recently purchased a new machine lil upgrade for me, and it’s just like the Xion. It’s a Bronc V7. I’ve heard allot about it and how similar it is to the Xion. Yes even tho it’s Chinese made, but it’s what I could afford and many artist told me it’s just as good as Xion. Just wondering your opinion and wanted to ask about the machine. Does the give actually work? Is the 3.7 cam so different from a 3.7? My previous machine was 3.5 Mummy. (No give/different cam option)
      Can I still achieve light shading for black and grey with 3.7 cam in. Cause I can’t pull good lines with the 3.2 😖
      What’s the proper voltage for this machine? Says don’t put past 7.5 volts. How many clicks does your machine have on the give setting? Mine has 16, is this normal? Does it even notice much of a difference from hard to soft?? Is this machine good for black and grey realism and reliable machine? Thanks man ahead

  • @emiliehould7194
    @emiliehould7194 Před 4 lety +4

    I use the axys valhalla pen.. you can change the strokes in like 2 seconds with a twist of the machine... It's amazing I love this machine so much and it gave me the chance to learn quickly witch stroke I like the most for each technique I use !!!

    • @robertdanek623
      @robertdanek623 Před 3 lety +1

      Same as stigma stylist

    • @linglingpho
      @linglingpho Před 2 lety

      volt voltage do you run for whip shading with 2.5 stroke?

  • @DezWonda
    @DezWonda Před 4 lety +1

    Man!! There again I've always been using the 0.25mm and your right!! It's too soft for the linning sometimes depending which part of the body^^ can't wait to order the 0.35's!!! Bra you're a LEGEND 🙌🤝🤜🤛🏾😎🙏🏾💯

  • @souldunkeltattoo2051
    @souldunkeltattoo2051 Před 3 lety

    Great video again
    Thanks so much🔥🔥🔥

  • @dwrapsixa
    @dwrapsixa Před 4 lety +1

    Quite accurate! Thank you!

  • @Lisi_Mxo
    @Lisi_Mxo Před rokem

    I've only ever used coils, and just got a DragonHawk Fold pro as a gift. Really excited to get to know this bad boy. Thanks for the vid and the comments.

  • @maykolmaykol1452
    @maykolmaykol1452 Před 4 lety

    Thank you sir Oliver! More powers!

  • @erioncuka3966
    @erioncuka3966 Před 4 lety +3

    i use the new cheyenne thunder direct drive 4mm stroke the serie before sol terra
    i love to use this one for black and grey and liner's and she works nice for color packing to
    but i prefer to use inkjecta flite nano for coloring back with 3.25 mm stroke
    i feel comfortable with inkjecta in my teqnique of color packing on blending and layering colors how i want

  • @dubmelo6814
    @dubmelo6814 Před 4 lety +1

    Love this guy 💪🏾💯

  • @miludamadrugs
    @miludamadrugs Před rokem

    Ive got that rotary stigma that u show on the photo and another pen. 2 coil ass well.. im tattoing a 2 years.. bless u guys

  • @claudiosaldivia5646
    @claudiosaldivia5646 Před 3 lety

    Thank for take your time and share your knowledge bliss and bless

  • @ajthescot
    @ajthescot Před 4 lety +1

    Another informative vid, kudos man. Only tuber I let the ads run there entirety for to help support.

  • @samasadi6501
    @samasadi6501 Před rokem

    Thanks for the information 🤜🏻🤛🏻

  • @ashleyroachescarate1217
    @ashleyroachescarate1217 Před 2 lety +1

    I recently got the Spectra Xion and am excited to experiment with the longer stroke cam

    • @OLIVERAYRE
      @OLIVERAYRE  Před 2 lety

      I recent bought the Bishop Wand Packer with a longer stroke of 4.2 very nice machine but keep volts down as it does irritate the skin quickly

  • @glenwoodsmith4934
    @glenwoodsmith4934 Před 4 lety +1

    Another great informative video Oliver. 👍 keep up the great work. I like to stick to 3.5mm all around. Cheers 🍻

  • @4evermookie
    @4evermookie Před 2 lety

    Thank you for the content

  • @royltattooatl
    @royltattooatl Před 4 lety

    The edge x is a color packing beast!

  • @JoshuaSmith-sb6wk
    @JoshuaSmith-sb6wk Před 4 lety

    Hey Oliver huge fan you have tought me alot and my work has shown. I havnt seen you do much color work but would it be safe to say that I should use the same cam I use for lining for color packing? Thanks in advance

  • @championriven9611
    @championriven9611 Před 3 lety

    thank u bro, u share your experince that' s amazing information for us, ı am very greatful..
    ı use fk direct 2, halo and xion , fk direct 2 is tattooed best line 2.8 and xions stroke for shading 3.5 for me.

  • @luisfraustovicencio8817

    Hi Oliver, I'm a great fan of your videos. I've learned a lot from you. I recently purchased my first profesional tattoo machine, the Axys Valhalla. It's an Incredible machine and I like how its easy to switch the stroke from 2.5, 2.9, 3.4, 3.8, and 4.2 mm. It'd be awesome if you could try this machine and make a video about your opinion.

    • @Sean.Cox.Tattoo
      @Sean.Cox.Tattoo Před 2 lety

      Do you still use the Valhalla? Would you recommend it? I’m having nothing but problems with mine.

  • @ivelinkostadinov2569
    @ivelinkostadinov2569 Před 4 lety +2

    Hi. I have been using cheyenne pen with 3.5 for soft shading . Its just great machine for realistic work. Now i switch to sol nova its also 3.5 but i find a big difference. Everything just go so smooth heal perfect very easy to use machine. I also do a lot of linework and im using the thunder 4.0mm . Nice balance and power. I could never do line with the pen that have the quality of the thunder. Nice video keep going ✌️

    • @vadims331
      @vadims331 Před 4 lety

      Different motor in sol nova. Stronger.but itc softer on the skin.these german guys are genius

    • @cesarrodriguez6669
      @cesarrodriguez6669 Před 3 lety

      Hello brother I'm beginner. Wich stroke is better for shading 4mm or 3.5mm thanks

    • @kristattoo4678
      @kristattoo4678 Před rokem

      ​@@cesarrodriguez6669 on the begining 3.5 lis in the video is all rounder than with the knoslege you can move to 4.0

  • @turbo-kiwi9207
    @turbo-kiwi9207 Před 4 lety

    Deff diggin the vids. U should do more reviews of cheaper machines. Like from red scorpion

  • @bachigcornelius9080
    @bachigcornelius9080 Před 2 lety

    I use a mast flip pen. And when I first got it I was told to use my long stroke for shading a short for lineing.. after seeing this I'm gunna chang it up

  • @stylishlykez7894
    @stylishlykez7894 Před 3 lety

    Thank you! I found this really helpful. Im a PMU Artist and my current go to is the Bishop Fantom and Critical Atom.... The Fantom suggests working about I think its 8V to 11V, but this is a bit harsh for PMU... I. E lipsx brows and eyeliner... A few peers are loving the Bishop Packer which is a longer stroke... But they seem to love it on Lips on a Lower V... Any thoughts as I'd have thought this could be a bit heavy with the stroke? Thanks!

  • @jorge56188
    @jorge56188 Před 2 lety +1

    I use the cnc q2 for everything, has a German motor 3.5 stroke, try it man

  • @stefotattoo
    @stefotattoo Před rokem

    cool cool ! i’m using direct 2 as it is my fav machine cus it is closer to a coils. anyway the cam i’m using is with 2.8mm and i do sometimes color packing with it... it works for me, which probably is not the most right thing but as i said it is fine for me!

    • @GDA81
      @GDA81 Před rokem

      ti funziona perche non usi una macchinetta a penna.

  • @brianmeeches
    @brianmeeches Před 3 lety

    thanks again brotha. learn new shit watching you.

  • @jonathanperalta2354
    @jonathanperalta2354 Před 2 lety

    Yo I’m a big fan of your work and I been following you since the first couple of videos here on CZcams.. I currently have the bishop wand Shader and I have trouble doing one solid line passes and packing in solid black I’ve been doing lettering & B&G work would the bishop Packer do the trick?

  • @CiscoBeats
    @CiscoBeats Před 2 lety

    great information

  • @davidgregory1229
    @davidgregory1229 Před 2 lety

    Can you pack color in with a 4mm stroke as well or do you prefer a smaller stroke and when you change the stroke of your machine to a 4mm do you run the voltage the same as the 3.5mm or since it hits harder do you turn the voltage down or up thanks for your great videos

  • @3lit3truth66
    @3lit3truth66 Před 4 lety +3

    Acts Valhalla change stroke on the fly it's amazing.

  • @wayneswaby1660
    @wayneswaby1660 Před 3 lety

    I just brought a pair or rotary machines and im confused as to which one for lining and which is for shading...or do one machine can do both?

  • @timxx3580
    @timxx3580 Před 3 lety +1

    Bro did u tried to colour pack with the 4mm inkjecta cam? How does it work for u?

  • @scottiej1294
    @scottiej1294 Před 3 lety

    I haven’t even tattooed yet. I am still waiting for my needle so I can start practicing. The rotary machine I purchased has a stroke of 3.5 (cnc q2) but I am just contemplating the theoretical aspects of how the machine works while I wait. This brings me to my question about the relationship between floating the tube, needle depth, and stroke. If you are constantly trying to keep the needle at 2mm in the skin and you want the needle to go back in the tube between cycles to refill ink, will a stroke of 5mm fully retract back between cycles and will a shorter stroke of 2.5 mm go deep enough to reach the dermis? I guess I am still confused about how this actually plays out.

  • @joannanunez8818
    @joannanunez8818 Před 4 lety

    hi.what can use for lining,shading and color packing strokes?thank you.

  • @frankrenteria4370
    @frankrenteria4370 Před 2 lety +1

    To shade with a 4 mm tattoo machine i drop voltage down to 4.5 v to 5.5 v it works smooth.

  • @DanWilson420
    @DanWilson420 Před 3 lety

    Started with a Javelin X, only now understanding hit, it's no wonder it does such great lines and piss poor shading (mind my lack of skill, haha). I'm running all Turbo carts right now as I got a great deal on them, but they're close to expiry so time for a change as I can't find them at my local shop anymore. That said, after watching your 7 consistency tips, I learned, they make fantastic mag, but crap liners, haha, so thanks for that little gem. Right now Radiant ink Turbo black, Kokkai Sumi greys and Dynamic white. I've just purchased a new CNC machine, but am looking at one that has an adjustable hit that, while substantially more, might be the difference between owning one machine and more than three... I'm going to test the CNC tonight and see, 4mm stroke on the JX down to 3.5 on the new CNC but a significantly larger motor up from 4.5w JX to 10w CNC. Fingers crossed.

  • @FunHobbies225
    @FunHobbies225 Před 2 lety +1

    lots of people use 4mm for everything does great shading too 3.5mm is not good for line work its for shading and color only with 4mm u just need to move hands faster to shade with and use bugpins so dont cause dramma to skin as much

  • @12isreal
    @12isreal Před 2 lety

    this is good information

  • @IIStonerII
    @IIStonerII Před 4 lety +4

    Hey there. Well, I started like most artists to Line with a Coil Machine. I was using a Power Liner and 9rl Needles for my first few tattoos. Since the average smallest Needlegrouping for this kind of machine was stated as 9rl you can imagine how easy it was to get those bold and crisp Lines into the skin. After switching to a Rotary Pen (Spektra Xion GG) it was like starting over completely. Even lining with a 5 rl wasn't as easy as the 9rl with the Coil machine. But it's all a matter of getting used to it. Now I'm using the 3.2mm stroke to shade and line. Or if I'm having bigger Linework to do, I'm switching to a 3,7mm stroke just to get a better Punch and it doesn't need as much pressure to get the ink in. Having 2 different machines helps, since changing the stroke everytime you switch from lining to shading and back is way to much effort and you can't keep things sterile. I hate to adjust anything during the tattoo, that's why I switched to a rotary pen. 😅

  • @snakeeyes1662
    @snakeeyes1662 Před 4 lety +3

    Try special technique coil 10mm stroke

  • @bboytonill
    @bboytonill Před 4 lety

    Hello Oliver what supply buy EIKON EMS 420, Critical CX-1 or Cheyenne Hawk PU I??? am beginer

  • @freakstersoriginal9808

    Oliver can i ask you for now j just practice on fake skin and my machine and power supply is a crap i have been offered cheyenne hawk spirit and sol nova with cheyenne pu1 so as a specialist what is your opinion which one to choose for a newbie and do you think both machines are fine for lining, shading,packing thank you love your videos.

  • @anthonyasmr1787
    @anthonyasmr1787 Před 2 lety

    More rpm is better por worst?i see machines from 6000 to 11000
    But for shading and lining what are the sweet spot for both?

  • @victoriahendrie8381
    @victoriahendrie8381 Před 3 lety +4

    Great content ! Thanks ( loved the one on dissecting artists ) I have a proton equalizer which is great for shading but for lines not so great - thinkning might be stroke ( my mate has a cheap italian rotary which does lines much better ) but the equaliser and that machine have the same stroke 3.5 .... does the proton have more " give " ? im all confused. And for #8 3rl linework which is better long or short stoke ?

  • @learnthrivecompassion422

    Is the edge x softer hitting than the inkjecta? Can you elaborate?

  • @Birdman509
    @Birdman509 Před 3 lety +1

    Wich machine can I buy for an all purpose wireless?

  • @sumitmane5904
    @sumitmane5904 Před 3 lety

    Which machine would you suggest me to buy im confused between bishop wand shader packer or fk iron spectra or inkjecta flite nano please anyone reply

  • @LeoSiennaLeo
    @LeoSiennaLeo Před 4 měsíci

    Just found your channel 👍

  • @jason63004
    @jason63004 Před 4 lety +1

    Bishop Fantom 3,5 stroke a good choice for me ... realy nice shading!
    Do you have tips for Body parts where it is difficult to place the arm to guide the needle ?
    Your videos are super helpful 👌🏼

    • @cesarrodriguez6669
      @cesarrodriguez6669 Před 3 lety

      Hi bro the bishop fantom with stroke 3.5 is good for packing color.?

  • @vegavein
    @vegavein Před 2 lety

    What's the best stroke for whip and stipple shading?

  • @shivainksting6250
    @shivainksting6250 Před 3 lety

    Thanks 😊

  • @michalbronieski4764
    @michalbronieski4764 Před 3 lety

    What power supply do you use on spectra edge x?

  • @nickm9838
    @nickm9838 Před 3 lety

    What needle cartridge to use for the bishop fantom?

  • @lichdesign
    @lichdesign Před 5 měsíci

    Hey im looking for any experiences with th inkjecta’s factory 3.25mm

  • @Yougot6dollarsbro7
    @Yougot6dollarsbro7 Před 4 lety +29

    I've always used a 3.5 stroke for everything. I've been curious about the 3.7, 3.8 and 4.0 strokes, but after feeling the difference on my skin after being tattooed with a 4.2, I do not want my clients to endure more pain than they need. So 3.7 will probably be the furthest I'll ever go.

    • @OLIVERAYRE
      @OLIVERAYRE  Před 4 lety +6

      SilEn Monharck1 I was tattooed with a 5.0 stroke and it definitely hurt more!!

    • @conny.rapp.tattoo
      @conny.rapp.tattoo Před rokem +2

      Funny thing is I've switched to 5.0 some months ago and neither me on myself nor my customers noticed more pain. Actually bright colours and white bleed less sonic am wondering what I am doing differently.
      Cheyenne Sol Nova unlimited 5.0 is what I am using, 90% of the time in steady mode.

  • @fratelliincristo
    @fratelliincristo Před 11 měsíci

    Ciao... complimenti per il tuo video... vorrei un informazione....il mega magnum è giusto usare uno stroke da 3.5mm oppure da 4mm?

  • @bostjanloncaric
    @bostjanloncaric Před 3 lety

    I use for shading 3.2mm,for lines I use 4.0mm.

  • @gator509rind9
    @gator509rind9 Před 2 lety

    your videos have helped me so much on technique i have a 3.5mm and its a cheap machine but works like a dream you are a badass brother thank you for the tips and tricks

  • @rainhd1656
    @rainhd1656 Před 11 měsíci

    i dont know if you already know, but i heard you mention about the coil, now speaking of the coil.
    since you said about rotary, the longer the stroke the harder it hits, the better for lining and the shorter the stroke the softer it hits, the better shading and packing.
    why tho the coil machine works in oposite, like, if its long stroke its good for packing and shading, and the shorter stroke it is good for shading, they said, is it correct or what?

  • @fabiantechnician2797
    @fabiantechnician2797 Před 4 lety

    very nice

  • @davidgomez-me4cv
    @davidgomez-me4cv Před 2 lety

    Hi,I can,t find cams for inkjecta nano of 3.5 or 4 mm,can some body help me please?

  • @ryandearringer2787
    @ryandearringer2787 Před 3 lety +2

    Love the vids. only one disagreement... STROKE is the full movement of the needle's reciprocation, and THROW is the hang out of the tube tip. For example, you can have a 3.5mm stroke and throw the needle 2mm. Keep up the great vids!

    • @ryandearringer2787
      @ryandearringer2787 Před 3 lety

      I like a 3 to 3.5 for standard lining, and softer shading, 3.5 for color layering (realism/painterly styles), and a 4.2 for solid color packing.

    • @ryandearringer2787
      @ryandearringer2787 Před 3 lety

      always have about a 2.5mm throw and never ride the tube.

    • @jorge56188
      @jorge56188 Před 2 lety

      @@ryandearringer2787 how much would you say is 2.5mm?

    • @ryandearringer2787
      @ryandearringer2787 Před 2 lety

      @@jorge56188 the small notches on a standard ruler are mm. 2.5mm is about the thickness of a quarter, give or take a little bit...

    • @ryandearringer2787
      @ryandearringer2787 Před 2 lety +1

      1mm is about the thickness of a dime.

  • @bilysmith2236
    @bilysmith2236 Před 4 lety

    What cam for a colour packing???? Same 3.5 ??

  • @screwjack00
    @screwjack00 Před 4 lety

    Bishop wand packer for lining and colour and bishop fandom 3.5 shading

  • @minkjoester8510
    @minkjoester8510 Před 4 lety +1

    Thank you soo much for the good advices and explanation. Which Printer for Stencil you can recommand? Is a 150 bucks amazon printer enough?

    • @OLIVERAYRE
      @OLIVERAYRE  Před 4 lety +1

      i think so mate, i use the HP 250 office portable INKJET

    • @minkjoester8510
      @minkjoester8510 Před 4 lety

      @@OLIVERAYRE Did you stencil by hand? Or how do get your stencil done?

  • @shreekrishnatattoostudiomo8540

    Sir I'm useing stelth3rotry machine

  • @FrankieKato149
    @FrankieKato149 Před 4 lety

    Im thinking of opening a shop..
    How many clients must you tattoo in order to pay the Rent of the shop plus electric bill , buy supplies need, and also give yourself a decent paycheck monthly or must you keep a day job to cover your ass to ensure a paycheck weekly?

  • @pierrott59710
    @pierrott59710 Před 4 lety

    I do everything with a 2.5mm stroke (cheyenne hawk spirit) I can do lining shading, color packing. I think the stroke yes it's more easy do to something you want to do example lining with 4.00mm stroke but you can easily do it with a 2.5mm stroke

    • @OLIVERAYRE
      @OLIVERAYRE  Před 4 lety

      No LastName I don’t like 2.5 tattoos heal like shit

    • @pierrott59710
      @pierrott59710 Před 4 lety

      @@OLIVERAYRE In your video THE BEST TATTOO KIT FOR BEGINNERS you "buy" the hawk spirit with 2.5 mm stroke... I personnaly don't have any issue with the healing process of my tattoo BUT i'm not at your level of work, i'm not a beginner i'm I could say intermediate in tattooing i'am not a master. SO what is for you the best stroke for heal well ? (sorry for my english i'm french)

  • @davidgregory1229
    @davidgregory1229 Před 2 lety

    Love you’re videos i have a question about the stroke i had just purchased the cnc x we plus and i love it now it came with options to change the stroke from harder or softer i was thinking about going to a softer stroke now if I do am i going to have to change the voltage when going to a lighter stroke or is my hand speed going to have to change or should I just experiment on my leg

    • @Wally_GTO
      @Wally_GTO Před 2 lety

      Soft and hard It’s about the give.
      The stroke it’s different tho.
      You can have 4.0 with softer hit ( give ) or 4.0 no give ( hard hit )
      But there’s no such a thing as softer or hard stroke mate

  • @Jpyrex
    @Jpyrex Před 4 lety +1

    Great video bro I just purchased a cheyenne thunder and have not been able to use it yet what it does have a 4mm stroke i know its great for lining do you think 4mm is good for color packing?

    • @OLIVERAYRE
      @OLIVERAYRE  Před 4 lety +1

      yeah it would pack in well, but be super careful not to do too many passes!

    • @Jpyrex
      @Jpyrex Před 4 lety

      OLIVER AYRE Thanks for the advice bro you motivate me to get better keep it up bro you have a gift 🤙🏻💪🏼

  • @itzmemagick8397
    @itzmemagick8397 Před 3 lety

    I've recently decided to convert over to rotary machines. I've played with a few different models from artist friends but I can't seem to pick one. Any recommendations on a machine that can do both lining and shading? I've been looking at the Bishop Wand Packer but everything is sold out. Looking for something solid to start with that has a good mid-range stroke for both super solid lines and good shading where I can just switch needle cartridges. Any help? Love the videos brother. Keep doing your thing!