I always felt bad for Thomas. He willingly and quite excitedly volunteered for the infantry without having a shred of a clue about what military training is really like.
He knew everything that was going on and happily without a doubt in his mind wanted to get into it - he deserves respect for that, he wasn't squeamish at all about it, he wanted to fight.
1988 and i was an extra on this film . We were the white troops on the road leading onto the beach . We CHEERED the 54th onward . Thing is.......hardly ANY OF US THEN even knew WHO Denzel Washington was . Even when he was 3 feet in front of us ! ;) GREAT FILM !
That is certainly true. Jekyll Island 1988. I had no idea who he was. Morgan Freeman was even able to sit under a tree by himself as no one knew who he was either. I did a second movie later on with Andre though. Yankee by day on the beach and Confederate by night in the fort.
The North profited off of slave labor, which is reprehensible, but it isn't as bad as actually owning other humans. Fighting the Confederacy a the very rare cause that would I would also join.
@@jamesc7286 the North’s economies were primarily field by trade and productions. There were isolated instances of slavery but more so indentured servitude of Europeans. But to go beyond that and claim that “America is built of slavery” is pure myth and not a speculation supported by respected US historians.
I love the fife & drum and this tune, "Jefferson and Liberty!" Glory is a great movie that tells many people, who wouldn't know otherwise, an important part of Civil War history and the 54th MA Regiment. I learned several years ago I had an ancestor killed in this very same battle at Fort Wagner that made the 54th MA Regiment famous, on July 18th, 1863. He was in a supporting regiment, the 62nd Ohio Volunteer Infantry. His name was First Sergeant Aaron McNaughton. He was buried in a trench grave with all the other Union dead, now covered by the Atlantic Ocean. He has a marker in his memory by his parent's grave in Fairfield County, Ohio.
Morgan Freeman was a late bloomer as a mainstream Hollywood actor. At 51 years old in 1988, filming for Glory, this was the movies that made his mark on the global stage.
Late bloomer implies he couldn’t act until then. I disagree…he just didn’t get major opportunities until that time. Even if something like Street Smart, his brilliance shines through, getting a Best Supporting Actor nomination in a good, but mostly unseen movie.
Though the first official all black Union regiment, they were not the first to fight and die for the Union. That distinction belongs to the 1st Kansas Colored Infantry, led by Col. James Williams. But that dose not diminish the glory of the 54th Massachusetts.
@MondoBeno Many were disspleased with him. Other than his young age, he was not regarded as a battle confidant but he grew in his role and dispite dieing at fort wagner, he gained respect amongst his men and the other commanding officers for his bravery.
@twinmommy0502 Black Soldiers in the Confederate Army tended to be slaves of white officers, and were limited to cooks and manual labor, Most Confederate Black Units (example the 1st Louisiana Native Guard) were militias and it was forbidden to even discussing the possibility of enlisting blacks into the regular Army until it was too late, if Blacks served in fighting units in the Confederate Army during the war it had to be done in secret since Slavery was a vital part of the South's economy
Black soldiers did not fight in the Confederate Army. That's a myth often repeated by southerners but without any basis in fact. In fact, the Confederates routinely shot black Union soldiers who surrendered because they did not even see them as human beings, let alone POWs with rights. A fact that makes the bravery of blacks who fought for the Union all the more commendable.
actually; you are incorrect. in early 1864, when the confederacy was getting pummeled, Jefferson davis and Robert e lee passed a military bill recruiting black soldiers in return for their freedom. do your homework.
Kevin Bryant Yes, and that bill was not passed until three weeks before the end of the war, and the black soldiers "recruited" were partially emancipated slaves, and they were pelted with mud in the streets by white southerners and none of them ever saw combat.
"On this day in 1865, with the main Rebel armies facing long odds against must larger Union armies, the Confederacy, in a desperate measure, reluctantly approves the use of black troops. These troops were used in the defense of Richmond and Petersburg."
Kevin Bryant Participating, sure, but I think it would give a misleading impression to say those poor people "fought" in the Confederate Army. That implies something that didn't happen. There are stories of individual black slaves going into battle alongside their masters, but there were no Confederate colored regiments or colored brigades, and black men could not even legally be soldiers under Confederate law.
@twinmommy0502 I happen to be a Military Historian and you are simply repeating a base historical revisionist canard. Black Americans knew damn well that the Secessionists had no intention of ending slavery. You do the math.
Yes, the tune is called "Jefferson and Liberty". There might be a drum and fife version like this somewhere, but I haven't found it yet - sounds really cool though.
I wonder how Shaw's subordinate officers felt about serving under him? He wasn't a West Point grad, and he got his commission through his father's connections.
Welcome to the Union Army circa 1861-1865. Most regiments were commanded by men who got their commissions through their political connections...because that was the way to raise armies. Don't forget that the professional officer corps was vanishingly small and composed of men with little experience above commanding a company or battalion. Yes, West Point vs Private rivalries existed...and the details of one's commission were hotly debated and used in politics... ...but the Union needed manpower, and giving commissions to rich or powerful men got more recruits into the uniform.
You are correct. I was among the group of drummers and fifers that had to do the sound over on a Wednesday before we could eat lunch that day on Jekyll Island.
@twinmommy0502 you wrote and I'm quoting; "You'd be surprised at how many african american soldiers fought on both sides. " Your statement is disingenuous at best, implying that the number of Black Americans who fought for both sides was essentially the same, and/or that the number who served the very cause that enslaved them was somehow even significant. Either way, you're asserting nonsense, and your resorting to a direct ad hominem merely underscores your fallacious assertion all the more.
Yea, the “black confederates” consist of: 1. Slaves who did menial labor but were later given honors in the 1920s to try to quell the “uppityness” of Black WW1 vets. 2. The 1st Louisiana Native Guard, who switched sides as the union took the city. 3. A couple hundred recruited by a desperate Richmond in 1865 a few weeks before Appomattox.
They really couldn't just get 5 guys who can play drums to play the roles of the drummers? They are all 5 playing 5 different things, and they look like shit doing it. The 2 guys on the right side are the only ones that look like they have ever seen a drum in person before. One of these guys is playing double traditional grip. Jesus fuck.
It was a good movie, but after watching Gettysburg and Gods and Generals, it's hard to watch this. They made Shaw all too willing to die and he didn't really seem to give a shit at all about his men, very Hollywood.
He was fighting for a cause. They were soldiers, the first of a kind and needed to make a point. Read the letters to his parents. Reality was far better than Hollywood...
I always felt bad for Thomas. He willingly and quite excitedly volunteered for the infantry without having a shred of a clue about what military training is really like.
As a nerdy part-black kid, I’m really glad Thomas was part of the movie.
Oh, none of the thousands of young men did at the beginning.
As time wore on, both sides relied on the draft.
He knew everything that was going on and happily without a doubt in his mind wanted to get into it - he deserves respect for that, he wasn't squeamish at all about it, he wanted to fight.
@@kevinzhang6623 and when push came to shove he did his part.
1988 and i was an extra on this film . We were the white troops on the road leading onto the beach . We CHEERED the 54th onward . Thing is.......hardly ANY OF US THEN even knew WHO Denzel Washington was . Even when he was 3 feet in front of us ! ;) GREAT FILM !
That is certainly true. Jekyll Island 1988. I had no idea who he was. Morgan Freeman was even able to sit under a tree by himself as no one knew who he was either. I did a second movie later on with Andre though. Yankee by day on the beach and Confederate by night in the fort.
Which one were you?
wow ! what an experience for you!
That says a lot.
@@graceandpeace4414 lol
A Southerner I am born. I love my state, and I love my rights. But I sure as hell will give my life to defend the Union!
The North profited off of slave labor, which is reprehensible, but it isn't as bad as actually owning other humans. Fighting the Confederacy a the very rare cause that would I would also join.
@@jamesc7286 the North’s economies were primarily field by trade and productions. There were isolated instances of slavery but more so indentured servitude of Europeans. But to go beyond that and claim that “America is built of slavery” is pure myth and not a speculation supported by respected US historians.
I love the fife & drum and this tune, "Jefferson and Liberty!" Glory is a great movie that tells many people, who wouldn't know otherwise, an important part of Civil War history and the 54th MA Regiment. I learned several years ago I had an ancestor killed in this very same battle at Fort Wagner that made the 54th MA Regiment famous, on July 18th, 1863. He was in a supporting regiment, the 62nd Ohio Volunteer Infantry. His name was First Sergeant Aaron McNaughton. He was buried in a trench grave with all the other Union dead, now covered by the Atlantic Ocean. He has a marker in his memory by his parent's grave in Fairfield County, Ohio.
for some reason i got chills when morgan freeman nodded slightly
The sign of brotherhood, the most powerful force on the planet, besides love...
Morgan Freeman was a late bloomer as a mainstream Hollywood actor. At 51 years old in 1988, filming for Glory, this was the movies that made his mark on the global stage.
Late bloomer implies he couldn’t act until then. I disagree…he just didn’t get major opportunities until that time. Even if something like Street Smart, his brilliance shines through, getting a Best Supporting Actor nomination in a good, but mostly unseen movie.
Very sad especially the ending :( and one of thee Greatest movies I've ever seen.
Since I spent hours trying t ooooook find the tune, they are playing a song called "Jefferson and liberty"
Thanks dude
Finally
This tune is called Jefferson and Liberty,
Though the first official all black Union regiment, they were not the first to fight and die for the Union. That distinction belongs to the 1st Kansas Colored Infantry, led by Col. James Williams. But that dose not diminish the glory of the 54th Massachusetts.
I forget the name of the regiment but wasn't there USCT present at Milliken's Bend???
Love the drums. Good marching tunes in the civil war.
I love the scene!
@MondoBeno Many were disspleased with him. Other than his young age, he was not regarded as a battle confidant but he grew in his role and dispite dieing at fort wagner, he gained respect amongst his men and the other commanding officers for his bravery.
A classic! They should show this in the school system.
We are watching it rn in my social studies class. It's an excellent movie! You can feel the black soldiers emotions and pain.
They do.
First time I seen this it was in social studies
That's where I first saw it, in 1990. In history class.
They did in my Social Studies class and we had to do a paper on it. Loves this movie ever since
"we gone whoop the secesh?"
if youre trying to "sound" ignorant ... ... it works better if you yourself were NOT ignorant LoL!!
that bassline is sick !
This is an awesome movie. I had to watch it in one of my classes! I think Robert Shaw has really pretty eyes! He is the best! :D
That hymn is all business
when we gon get those blue suits cournel?
Jefferson and Liberty (it was Jefferson's Campain song). I think.
I like the music
I was an extra- one of my faes!
Me too I was the one who yelled out to Shaw "how we look Colnal? We gonna whoop the sushesh??
The March is Jefferson and Liberty
Denzel Washington looks fit in this movie..
All men of union...
When are we gonna fight?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!!!!!!!!!
am i the only girl who thinks matthew brodericks looks cute in this movie? lol..
Why are the Fiifes and Drums playing a Confederate Tune? The Tune in question is "Jefferson and Liberty", just in case anyone was wondering!
That's not Jefferson as in Jefferson Davis...
*THOMAS* Jefferson...
the "jefferson and liberty" song in this scene sounds WAY better than in the Soundtrack :/
Do you have the link to the soundtrack version? Cause I can't find it
Back when you can smoke a cigar in formation
Brilliant movie. Ill admit my small crush on Robert, but its hard to turn down a man in uniform.
What's the name of that tune ? It's really nice
Wouter Jefferson and Liberty
Darude. Sandstorm
This tune sounds Irish. It seems like all the songs of the Civil War were based on irish melodies.
It's called Jefferson and Liberty
The name of the March is Jefferson and Liberty, which is played to the tune of an Irish folk song known as the gobby O
@twinmommy0502
Black Soldiers in the Confederate Army tended to be slaves of white officers, and were limited to cooks and manual labor, Most Confederate Black Units (example the 1st Louisiana Native Guard) were militias and it was forbidden to even discussing the possibility of enlisting blacks into the regular Army until it was too late, if Blacks served in fighting units in the Confederate Army during the war it had to be done in secret since Slavery was a vital part of the South's economy
yeah they did.....watch closely
You aren't hearing anything that those musicians were doing.
What is the name of this song??
Jefferson and liberty
Black soldiers did not fight in the Confederate Army. That's a myth often repeated by southerners but without any basis in fact. In fact, the Confederates routinely shot black Union soldiers who surrendered because they did not even see them as human beings, let alone POWs with rights. A fact that makes the bravery of blacks who fought for the Union all the more commendable.
actually; you are incorrect. in early 1864, when the confederacy was getting pummeled, Jefferson davis and Robert e lee passed a military bill recruiting black soldiers in return for their freedom. do your homework.
Kevin Bryant Yes, and that bill was not passed until three weeks before the end of the war, and the black soldiers "recruited" were partially emancipated slaves, and they were pelted with mud in the streets by white southerners and none of them ever saw combat.
"On this day in 1865, with the main Rebel armies facing long odds against must larger Union armies, the Confederacy, in a desperate measure, reluctantly approves the use of black troops. These troops were used in the defense of Richmond and Petersburg."
so, technically, as little as it was, they did fight. on both sides.
Kevin Bryant Participating, sure, but I think it would give a misleading impression to say those poor people "fought" in the Confederate Army. That implies something that didn't happen. There are stories of individual black slaves going into battle alongside their masters, but there were no Confederate colored regiments or colored brigades, and black men could not even legally be soldiers under Confederate law.
@emikashii Lol.. Thats cool.=] jaja i know i agree.. I would gowith u jaja.. =] and yeah i want to get that movie for the same reason.! =p
@twinmommy0502 I happen to be a Military Historian and you are simply repeating a base historical revisionist canard. Black Americans knew damn well that the Secessionists had no intention of ending slavery. You do the math.
What song is this!!!!
Jefferson and liberty
@@spencer_fife_and_drum_john9152 thanks m8👌
@@amarimartin5571 no problem
@RupertPupkin69 No...that is your own opinion.
Why would anyone want to join the military back then knowing how battles were conducted? Like it was basically 50/50 that you wouldn't make it.
Cause they were brave
Is this a real song?
Yes, the tune is called "Jefferson and Liberty". There might be a drum and fife version like this somewhere, but I haven't found it yet - sounds really cool though.
Here you go: czcams.com/video/0IIsCdpCpDM/video.html
See
Have you tried with FLV Downloader?
I wonder how Shaw's subordinate officers felt about serving under him? He wasn't a West Point grad, and he got his commission through his father's connections.
Welcome to the Union Army circa 1861-1865.
Most regiments were commanded by men who got their commissions through their political connections...because that was the way to raise armies.
Don't forget that the professional officer corps was vanishingly small and composed of men with little experience above commanding a company or battalion.
Yes, West Point vs Private rivalries existed...and the details of one's commission were hotly debated and used in politics...
...but the Union needed manpower, and giving commissions to rich or powerful men got more recruits into the uniform.
In the Civil War that was the way it was done.
THEY DONT HIT THE DRUMS
You are correct. I was among the group of drummers and fifers that had to do the sound over on a Wednesday before we could eat lunch that day on Jekyll Island.
@twinmommy0502 you wrote and I'm quoting; "You'd be surprised at how many african american soldiers fought on both sides. " Your statement is disingenuous at best, implying that the number of Black Americans who fought for both sides was essentially the same, and/or that the number who served the very cause that enslaved them was somehow even significant. Either way, you're asserting nonsense, and your resorting to a direct ad hominem merely underscores your fallacious assertion all the more.
Yea, the “black confederates” consist of:
1. Slaves who did menial labor but were later given honors in the 1920s to try to quell the “uppityness” of Black WW1 vets.
2. The 1st Louisiana Native Guard, who switched sides as the union took the city.
3. A couple hundred recruited by a desperate Richmond in 1865 a few weeks before Appomattox.
Did they fire their pistols sideways?
They really couldn't just get 5 guys who can play drums to play the roles of the drummers? They are all 5 playing 5 different things, and they look like shit doing it. The 2 guys on the right side are the only ones that look like they have ever seen a drum in person before. One of these guys is playing double traditional grip. Jesus fuck.
Morgan Freeman always act smart
Good thing Mathew was riding a horse and not driving a vehicle.
All that just to get clapped by the south at fort Wagner
It was a good movie, but after watching Gettysburg and Gods and Generals, it's hard to watch this. They made Shaw all too willing to die and he didn't really seem to give a shit at all about his men, very Hollywood.
He was fighting for a cause. They were soldiers, the first of a kind and needed to make a point. Read the letters to his parents. Reality was far better than Hollywood...
The South will rise again