Just as a fun historical footnote for this scene, the Speaker of the House here, Schuyler Colfax (who begins the scene speaking calling the House to order), would go on to be Ulysses S Grant’s running mate and VP when he would successfully run for president 3 years after this film takes place.
@@Icecube88 It is arguably the first time the Republican party became seen as the party of business and money in a negative context, though really the seeds for such were planted by Lincoln when he ran for President on a platform that included most of the whig pro business nationalist and developmental capitalist agenda, namely tariffs and the like. It was also the first time that Republicans could be blamed for crashing the economy, the first time their more religious members alienated minority religions. The was also a nativist upsurge pushing temperance which had expected results among immigrant voters. I tend to argue with both those who contend that the parties flipped and those who try to score points by linking modern Dems to the KKK. Party evolution is a complex topic, though if their is one constant in the GOP it is a preference for business concerns though their desires are fluid and dynamic dependent on the period in question. For Democrats it is opposition to these concerns. Even Democrats labeled as conservatives today like Davis in 24 railed against wall street and business cartels.
Free to do what? What laws will protect them to express their freedom? What protection will under the law will they be given to work to pray maintain the home? You have not even begun to comprehend *free* means in America.
Infernal460 14th and 15th Amendments were passed by Republicans after Lincoln was shot by a Democrat. These gave them equal protection under the law and the vote.
Among the strangest facets of this most improbable nation is the deep seated commitment to forgiveness among the African American community. It is understandable that the Southerners feared retribution at the hands of freed slaves. After all, they certainly would have done the same if someone had wronged them as grievously as they had wronged the African Americans. The fact that the freed slaves and their descendents have rarely asked for anything more than justice and equality is strange, but it does give me hope for us as a nation and as a species.
Infernal460 There was then a battle in Congress for a hundred years with the Republicans trying to pass civil rights legislation only for the Democrats to strike it down until the Democrats saw the writing on the wall and came over in the 1960’s culminating in the 1965 Civil Rights Bill 100 years after the ending of the Civil War From there we’ve continued to make progress ever since
It's amazing how much the actors were made to look like the real people they portrayed. The attention to detail in this movie was amazing. Well done to the hair, makeup and costume departments
Yeaman: "I oppose the amendment" Congress: "Well, that sucks... I guess..." Yeaman: "Whats next? Votes for women?" Congress: "whhHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT???????????"
..and on record, Kentucky was like.. that's some bullshit too.. yet, look at how outraged you are, but you say you're ready for equality?... the original liberals. Mitch McConnell is a disgrace to his state.
In the end, George Yeaman, a Representative from a slave state, who could never and would never return to Kentucky while still alive, was the bravest one of them all.
@@davidw.2791 yep President Lincoln and the Union didn't even have a real plan in place to setup free black folk for success they were just gonna start sending them to Liberia.
@davidw.2791 former slaves weren’t given a chance to be “equalized”. Jim Crow laws and separate but unequal kept them behind for another century until the 1970’s when the last of desegregation actually took place.
@rc59191 Volunteer teachers did go south to educate the freedmen. Lincoln actually never sent a single person away from America against their will. The only attempt to do so, in the spring of 1863, saw 453 people shipped to the tiny island of Île à Vache close to Haiti. It turned into a humanitarian disaster due to heartless exploitation and appalling mismanagement by entrepreneur and cotton planter Bernard Kock. Almost a year later Lincoln had the 350 survivors brought back to America, and sent back to Congress $600 000 granted for deportation purposes, minus $38 000 already spent. The Republican Party by now had turned against the policy, and it died without ceremony.
Yep............Abortions working out real well...........For Millions of Children.......Never to take a breath of Air...........Thanks Women........Satan Laughs with delight............
@crazywarlord777 America was going great when only men could vote, that's why there were such fun times like the civil war and the teapot dome scandal, right? Absolute legislative paradise right there.
@@briangoldy8784 Not in the Civil War generations. If a known abortion had been performed: The woman and who ever performed the abortion would have went to jail, for murder. Abortion was against the Law until 1973.... The same year the Congress made a Law, that the USA was no longer going to practice, the Protestant Christian "Sabbath." That every one was REQUIRED to refrain, from doing any business, from mid night on Saturday and until mid night on Sunday. (24 hour period.)And within that 24 hour period: Every one was REQUIRED to attend their individual Christian Denomination, of Faith services. If you did not attend services, the elders of the church were to know why. And the Churches controled society. Crime was at a minimum. After Church services, the rest of the 24 hours was to be spent, in rest and Relaxation and with the family. No business was to be conducted in that 24 hour period. Even long haul truckers had to pull their rigs off the road, for that 24 hour period. The only Americans permitted to work, during this 24 hour period were Hospital Doctors and Nurses and minimal Hospital essential workers.
@@Mugen2201 To my understanding, a yeoman was a subsistence farmer and generally used as a representative of the average American morality wise. I don’t know if Mr. Yeaman was actually placed in the situation to make a decisive stand against slavery, or that he was even a real congressman, but I thought his surname was close enough to be a homophone of Yeoman that I had to comment. Thank you for your question and giving me the chance to explain what I meant.
@@Mugen2201 A yoeman farmer were farmers in and around the south, generally in more mountinous regions, who were poorer due to the worse soil that they owned and couldnt afford slaves. Many (though not most or even all) held strong unionist sympathies during the civil war as they tended to be less than lukewarm towards slavery.
@@Mugen2201 The Yeoman farmer is a class that dates back to antiquity, and it basically means a peasant who owned their own land and worked it to sustain themselves. This was in contrast to most peasants and serfs who would work rented land to sustain themselves, paying for it in goods and later hard cash. In many ways this class can be seen as the founding class of America; the early settlers who sought their own land instead of working someone else's. Think of the frontier rancher image built into the American collective consciousness, that's the yeoman farmer. The common clay of the new west. Y'know, morons. In many ways this image went on to form the backbone of many ideas of American conservatism, the rugged individualism and 'strike it out on your own' attitude was semi possible when there where still plenty of Sioux to give smallpox blankets, and their was huge amounts of land being given out as government policy, now however all the useful lands taken up and indeed actually being able to live as a yeoman farmer was killed by the industrial revolution. How can a tiny farm compete with new machinery, or with huge plantation families with the ability to buy hundreds of slaves and new cotton gins? They can't, so they went out of business and the people moved into cities. Despite this, the idea of the yeoman farmer and the 'American dream' never went away and continues to scar American politics and influence the political naivety of her peoples.
I've made my living, Mr. Speaker, in large part through casting votes. Some days I vote twenty times, some days I vote none. There are weeks, sometimes months, in fact, when I don't vote at all because there is simply no play. So I wait, plan, marshal my resources, and when I finally see an opportunity and there is a vote to make... I vote it all."
unfortunately Mr. Yeaman was right that the government did not really think through the entirety of the fate of black America. In this Mr. Stevens was correct that action should also be taken on this question
Yeah the South did everything in its power to keep black people as chained as possible. Difficult to get anything done in Congress when half of it is filled with maggots
History is written (and censored) by the Victors. archive.org/details/HitlersWar-WhatTheHistoriansNeglectToMentiontestVersion archive.org/details/NationalSocialismExplainedErnstZundel
Oh if we could bring these gentlemen forward in time. They would die from shock. Blacks AND women having the vote and a black President and a women Secretary of State, LoL.
Because she's a citizen, like it or not. Tell her to be more decisive if her dithering bothers you so much and don't judge all women based on the one who chose to call you her spouse.
Poor George as a Southern, I have sympathy for the man, and then he double changed his mind when it got to the nitty gritty every one on his side of the aisle went crazy...
"What will come next? Votes for Women?" Well he wasn't wrong and it's damn good that our country is giving equal rights to all citizens, regardless of race or gender.
*It is interesting to note...if the United States had lost the War of Independence against Britain , slavery would have been abolished long before 1865 but would have been eliminated in 1807 with Parliaments abolition of the Slave Trade Act.*
The United States outlawed the slave trade in 1808. It worked closely with the British Navy to stop the slave trade; this was the beginning of Anglo-American cooperation on the international stage. The British Empire didn't ban slavery itself until 1833. That said, this is obviously more than thirty years before the US did so at the cost of hundreds of thousands of lives in a Civil War.
If the British still owned the states they would have had little reason to abolish slavery and likely would have abolished it in the home isles but let it continue in the colonies. In fact, this is precisely what happened in India, where slavery was not officially abolished until 1861, the same year America broke into civil war over the issue. Furthermore, this act was barely enforced, if at all, as they simply changed the terminology to to it as "benign bondage" and it was allowed to continue into the 1920s.
@@cripple9860 I definitely believe that the decision to abolish slavery in Britain was so they would not see and propagate the horrors and filth within their lands rather than for humanitarian reasons. Like it doesn't take a genius to realize that continuing slavery there would have it establish and grow. Not only that but to add another lower class population by the thousands would not have sat well with them.
In one of those historic ironies, on the day Lincoln was sworn in as president, Czar Alexander II abolished serfdom (slavery light) in Russia with a stroke of the imperial pen.
Lol, less than 20 years before Women will being to receive the right to vote in Wyoming. The old Men did not like the times changing, but change they did. 55 years after this, it was done.
Yeaman did have a point: "America freed the slaves in 1863, through the Emancipation Proclamation of Abraham Lincoln, but gave the slaves no land, and nothing in reality. And as a matter of fact, to get started on. At the same time, America was giving away, millions of acres of land in the west and the Midwest. Which meant that there was a willingness to give the white peasants from Europe an economic base, and yet it refused to give its black peasants from Africa, who came here involuntarily in chains and had worked free for two hundred and forty-four years, any kind of economic base. And so emancipation for the Negro was really freedom to hunger. It was freedom to the winds and rains of Heaven. It was freedom without food to eat or land to cultivate and therefore was freedom and famine at the same time."
The thought of Allowing Black people to be set free and you had pockets of strong disagreement. Ya mention Votes for Women and the whole place burns down 😏
Gene Hackman would've been great in this movie (in his later years), he had the same screen dominance of Tommie Lee Jones. Regardless, there are superb scenes in this film.
Rep. Yeaman: “...universal enfranchisement?” The House: “No” Rep. Yeaman: “Votes for women?” The House: “CKESJFOWXJRBQJDJREKXNRWBXKRCKRNACJEXKTKRXJNFWJSOREKCRNDOVOROCJFEJXJRJWOSORSFKROXIFKEKXJKGSJVJEKVJORAICWJXIIF”
Of all the states to grant women the right to vote, the Mormon bastion of Utah was the first, less then 6 years from the events here. And in 1896 they won the right again. Mr. Yeaman was 100% correct.
Interesting that at the time of the vote, Mr. Yeamen, a Kentucky slaveowner of the Unionist party, had lost his election so he was a Lame Duck when he voted...but...he landed on his feet with an appointment as Minister to Denmark this same year and served for five years and then became a Lecturer on Constitutional Law in NY. He died in 1908 at the age of 78.
I like how the more liberal the conversation gets the more mad they get first they talk about letting black people vote and get rights half the crowd cheers then letting universal votes they start complaining then at the end he says women should vote the crowd gets super mad then there is one guy cheering for women's rights in the back the guy was ahead of his time . Really shows how confusing 1800 liberal politics was
Right is right and wrong is wrong, time doesnt change that. There were abolitionist during the revolutionary war. People knew it was wrong then. Thomas Jefferson wanted to abolish slavery in the declaration of independence but the idea was deemed too radical
sk 1278 the only ignorant one here is you. You should really do some research, Abigail Adams, Benjamin franklin and Thomas Jefferson believed slavery was wrong. You realize there's a rough draft of the Declaration of Independence? Or do you think it was just written in one pass? Be honest did you think the most important document in American history laying out the rights of all men was written in a single draft? It wasn't and the earlier drafts exist to this day. Jefferson painted a very unflattering picture of slavery in it. John and Abigail Adams had probably the most prolific correspondence of any couple during that period having written over 1100 documents. She was very clear on her views of slavery and women's rights. Benjamin franklin, you know him right? He originally thought black people did not possess the intellect that white people did and therefore weren't entitled to the same rights, he went to Africa and after seeing African children learning to read and write became a very outspoken critic of slavery. You know he had a printing press right? his views are well documented. People knew it was wrong then, plain and simple. Not sure why you folks like to muddy the waters
@@boricualink 1. Prove any of that happened 2. Critiquing the past by applying modern day ideals and ethics is just ridiculous, plain and simple. They are completely different times with completely different context. Is it true that many people thought slavery was wrong back then? Sure it's true. Is it true that many things back then are seen in similar light today? Of course! However, with this in mind, it is still unacceptable to label and critique the past in retrospect of today's context.
@@Legodude552 from Abigail Adam's personal correspondence to John Adam's " I wish most sincerely there was not a Slave in the province. It allways appeard a most iniquitious Scheme to me-fight ourselfs for what we are daily robbing and plundering from those who have as good a right to freedom as we have. You know my mind upon this Subject." Here is a li k to the original scan of the letter www.masshist.org/digitaladams/archive/doc?id=L17740922aa. Heres a link to the original petition from the Pennsylvania society on the abolition or slavery signed by Benjamin Franklin to Congress, he was president of that society. Gee I wonder what the president of the Pennsylvania society on the abolition of slavery thought about slavery? Here is a link to the original rough draft of the declaration of independence from the library of Congress. www.loc.gov/exhibits/declara/ruffdrft.html The founders weren't the ignorant primitives you take them for friend.
@Doug Bevins They were human, just like us. Yes there was political grandstanding, ambition, corruption.... The film shows all of that. But there were also men of principle who were raised in a far different time with far different attitudes. They, like every other culture on the planet, saw themselves as the best of humanity. Ask almost any Englishman of the time, any Frenchmen and so on and you'd get the same sort of egotistical nationlistic response that their race and nation was far above all of the others. In the Lincoln/Douglas debates Douglas made the point that the black man was not equal to the white because of the civilization that the white man had built while the black had not. He didn't believe in slavery, but he didn't believe in equality either. They didn't know that the system was wrong, they believed it was right and they weren't all evil because of that belief. It was how they were raised, it was what they were taught and it takes a very special person to look at everything he's believed in his life and realize it is wrong. At any rate they're all long since dead and gone and have faced what ever consequences await all mortals.
There is a common mistake of dragging todays world into any analysis of historical facts . In order to contextualize history we need to look at historical figures in the times thry lived and understand , that if you exsisted at this time , your views would be similar
Both sides of the aisle rise in anger at the mere thought of women voting. Gotta love the bipartisanship.
Well that’s how trump was elected
@@mrbrainbob5320 White women overwhelmingly voted for Trump. Trump's election wasn't decided by gender, it was decided by race and class.
@@Glassandcandy not this election
@@mrbrainbob5320 You’re right it was decided by the deep state Biden didn’t win New York Times already admitted to the fix
@@justindowden2985 lmaooo you believe what ever makes you happy no matter how stupid it sounds
That's my favorite part. They all unanimously loose their shit at the mention of women's suffrage.
Lol 😂 it’s my favorite part too. Old fashion phucks.
Worst thing we ever did.
@@TheSeanoopscan't be worse than electing trump
@ihategooglespooks LOL! Where the fuck did you pull those facts from? Your ass?
@ihategooglespooks Yeah, in the Land of Make-Believe.
“Universal enfranchisement?”
Congress: 🙁😕🤨😟
“Votes for women?”
Congress: 😡🤯🤬😠
Now, what would their reaction by now when America elected its first woman VP .
@@cholodelrosari0543 woman with color
@@cholodelrosari0543 wasnt elected was stolen
It wasn’t. I’m sorry to break it to you but it wasn’t stolen. If it was, the Trump administration would’ve presented proof to the courts.
@@fuzztsimmers3415 proof?
Lincoln was secretly a comedy
That is political theater for you
It was man!
What if Congress is secretly a comedy?
@@jack_cry9518 It's not seceret.
The government is a comedy... funnier actually than comedy bars
Just as a fun historical footnote for this scene, the Speaker of the House here, Schuyler Colfax (who begins the scene speaking calling the House to order), would go on to be Ulysses S Grant’s running mate and VP when he would successfully run for president 3 years after this film takes place.
He was also implicated in the Credit Moblier scandal iirc.
@@David-fm6go as were a lot of grant's buddies lol. dude gave his friends jobs when he became president and they were corrupt as fuck.
@@Icecube88 It is arguably the first time the Republican party became seen as the party of business and money in a negative context, though really the seeds for such were planted by Lincoln when he ran for President on a platform that included most of the whig pro business nationalist and developmental capitalist agenda, namely tariffs and the like. It was also the first time that Republicans could be blamed for crashing the economy, the first time their more religious members alienated minority religions. The was also a nativist upsurge pushing temperance which had expected results among immigrant voters.
I tend to argue with both those who contend that the parties flipped and those who try to score points by linking modern Dems to the KKK. Party evolution is a complex topic, though if their is one constant in the GOP it is a preference for business concerns though their desires are fluid and dynamic dependent on the period in question. For Democrats it is opposition to these concerns. Even Democrats labeled as conservatives today like Davis in 24 railed against wall street and business cartels.
sammy koufax was a boston dodger idiot
Successfully run for president? What's you definition of success?
“They’ll be free, George, that’s what’ll happen to them.”
Free to do what? What laws will protect them to express their freedom? What protection will under the law will they be given to work to pray maintain the home?
You have not even begun to comprehend *free* means in America.
@@Infernal460 Well stated! And, I fully agree.
Infernal460 14th and 15th Amendments were passed by Republicans after Lincoln was shot by a Democrat. These gave them equal protection under the law and the vote.
Among the strangest facets of this most improbable nation is the deep seated commitment to forgiveness among the African American community. It is understandable that the Southerners feared retribution at the hands of freed slaves. After all, they certainly would have done the same if someone had wronged them as grievously as they had wronged the African Americans. The fact that the freed slaves and their descendents have rarely asked for anything more than justice and equality is strange, but it does give me hope for us as a nation and as a species.
Infernal460 There was then a battle in Congress for a hundred years with the Republicans trying to pass civil rights legislation only for the Democrats to strike it down until the Democrats saw the writing on the wall and came over in the 1960’s culminating in the 1965 Civil Rights Bill 100 years after the ending of the Civil War
From there we’ve continued to make progress ever since
It's amazing how much the actors were made to look like the real people they portrayed. The attention to detail in this movie was amazing. Well done to the hair, makeup and costume departments
Yeaman: "I oppose the amendment"
Congress: "Well, that sucks... I guess..."
Yeaman: "Whats next? Votes for women?"
Congress: "whhHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT???????????"
to be fair, the Abolition side was angry because, well, that wasn't the issue and is a glaring "slippery slope" fallacy at the time.
“Votes for women?”
Them: “aaaAAAAAHH”
..and on record, Kentucky was like.. that's some bullshit too.. yet, look at how outraged you are, but you say you're ready for equality?... the original liberals. Mitch McConnell is a disgrace to his state.
Emma D/ I always laugh at how that little suggestion causes such an uproar in the house
@@Mewted They were a border state that almost sided with the confederacy...
@ClintDempsey76 Republicans ended slavery and have spent the last 150 years trying to correct the "mistake".
@@robbabcock_ You are a fucking MORON!!
I love how he's completely right and yet so wrong. This movie is great.
In the end, George Yeaman, a Representative from a slave state, who could never and would never return to Kentucky while still alive, was the bravest one of them all.
Dov BarLeib He also unfortunately predicted how hard it would be to actually equalize Black Ppl once they are freed.
@@davidw.2791 yep President Lincoln and the Union didn't even have a real plan in place to setup free black folk for success they were just gonna start sending them to Liberia.
@davidw.2791 former slaves weren’t given a chance to be “equalized”. Jim Crow laws and separate but unequal kept them behind for another century until the 1970’s when the last of desegregation actually took place.
@rc59191 Volunteer teachers did go south to educate the freedmen.
Lincoln actually never sent a single person away from America against their will. The only attempt to do so, in the spring of 1863, saw 453 people shipped to the tiny island of Île à Vache close to Haiti. It turned into a humanitarian disaster due to heartless exploitation and appalling mismanagement by entrepreneur and cotton planter Bernard Kock. Almost a year later Lincoln had the 350 survivors brought back to America, and sent back to Congress $600 000 granted for deportation purposes, minus $38 000 already spent. The Republican Party by now had turned against the policy, and it died without ceremony.
Love how both parties lost their shit over the mention of a womans vote
Yep............Abortions working out real well...........For Millions of Children.......Never to take a breath of Air...........Thanks Women........Satan Laughs with delight............
@@briangoldy8784 Chill dude
@crazywarlord777 America was going great when only men could vote, that's why there were such fun times like the civil war and the teapot dome scandal, right? Absolute legislative paradise right there.
@@briangoldy8784 Not in the Civil War generations. If a known abortion had been performed: The woman and who ever performed the abortion would have went to jail, for murder.
Abortion was against the Law until 1973....
The same year the Congress made a Law, that the USA was no longer going to practice, the Protestant Christian "Sabbath."
That every one was REQUIRED to refrain, from doing any business, from mid night on Saturday and until mid night on Sunday. (24 hour period.)And within that 24 hour period: Every one was REQUIRED to attend their individual Christian Denomination, of Faith services. If you did not attend services, the elders of the church were to know why. And the Churches controled society. Crime was at a minimum.
After Church services, the rest of the 24 hours was to be spent, in rest and Relaxation and with the family.
No business was to be conducted in that 24 hour period. Even long haul truckers had to pull their rigs off the road, for that 24 hour period.
The only Americans permitted to work, during this 24 hour period were Hospital Doctors and Nurses and minimal Hospital essential workers.
@@Glassandcandy Note* During the Civil War more men died of venereal disease, than died in the War.
I love how Mr. Yeaman’s name is so close to yeoman. How fitting it is that his vote was so monumental in the passage of the amendment.
Why, what's yeoman?
@@Mugen2201 To my understanding, a yeoman was a subsistence farmer and generally used as a representative of the average American morality wise. I don’t know if Mr. Yeaman was actually placed in the situation to make a decisive stand against slavery, or that he was even a real congressman, but I thought his surname was close enough to be a homophone of Yeoman that I had to comment. Thank you for your question and giving me the chance to explain what I meant.
@@Mugen2201 A yoeman farmer were farmers in and around the south, generally in more mountinous regions, who were poorer due to the worse soil that they owned and couldnt afford slaves. Many (though not most or even all) held strong unionist sympathies during the civil war as they tended to be less than lukewarm towards slavery.
@@Mugen2201 The Yeoman farmer is a class that dates back to antiquity, and it basically means a peasant who owned their own land and worked it to sustain themselves. This was in contrast to most peasants and serfs who would work rented land to sustain themselves, paying for it in goods and later hard cash. In many ways this class can be seen as the founding class of America; the early settlers who sought their own land instead of working someone else's. Think of the frontier rancher image built into the American collective consciousness, that's the yeoman farmer. The common clay of the new west. Y'know, morons.
In many ways this image went on to form the backbone of many ideas of American conservatism, the rugged individualism and 'strike it out on your own' attitude was semi possible when there where still plenty of Sioux to give smallpox blankets, and their was huge amounts of land being given out as government policy, now however all the useful lands taken up and indeed actually being able to live as a yeoman farmer was killed by the industrial revolution. How can a tiny farm compete with new machinery, or with huge plantation families with the ability to buy hundreds of slaves and new cotton gins? They can't, so they went out of business and the people moved into cities. Despite this, the idea of the yeoman farmer and the 'American dream' never went away and continues to scar American politics and influence the political naivety of her peoples.
Votes for women?? Oh, my God. The horror, the insanity.
I mean. He’s right. All of those followed
So I guess we shouldn't have ended slavery?
@Burt Macklin no I'm just trying to understand what HE means when he says something like that LOL.
@@user-fv8ck9tx6r no, but it was very fine line between abolishing slavery and modern Leftist politics
@@Hn-zu1qu Civil rights for black people is leftist?
@@Hn-zu1qu Treating people who aren't white like human beings is leftist politics and right wingers wonder why they are labeled as racists.
It’s like Mr. Yeaman went up there to troll the house. 🤣🤣🤣
Black votes: No
Womens votes: Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
This is a why I wish I had time machine to look at debating on the house floor and Senate
Yes, all free, all responsible for their own choices and destiny. The truth shall set you free.
Kentucky went from chad Yeaman to virgin McConnell
Don’t forget Rand Paul.
I mean... He wasn't wrong. It did lead to giving the vote to liberated slaves and universal enfranchisement. I suppose it's all in the tone
Slippery slope I guess
@@quartzking3997 What?
I've made my living, Mr. Speaker, in large part through casting votes. Some days I vote twenty times, some days I vote none. There are weeks, sometimes months, in fact, when I don't vote at all because there is simply no play. So I wait, plan, marshal my resources, and when I finally see an opportunity and there is a vote to make... I vote it all."
Niiiice
Votes for woman really caused them to uproar😂😂😂they’re all flabbergasted
I dunno... what's a woman? 😂
everybody lost their shit when he said votes for women🤣🤣🤣
Well now we have people like AOC and Kamala Harris in positions of power. Some real winners
@@Felis-Concolor yea stfu
@@Felis-Concolor It’s time for the old men to go.
@@andybub45
What?
@@Felis-Concolor Those cunts are pure evil
Wow...they really hit the ceiling when he mentioned votes for women. 😂
Fun fact: Votes for women was 55 years away. A long way off in US history.
Though things would soon be starting to trend that direction much sooner. In 1869 Wyoming allowed women's suffrage
Votes for women?
Entire Congress: *A N G E R Y*
Bipartisanship
unfortunately Mr. Yeaman was right that the government did not really think through the entirety of the fate of black America. In this Mr. Stevens was correct that action should also be taken on this question
Yeah the South did everything in its power to keep black people as chained as possible. Difficult to get anything done in Congress when half of it is filled with maggots
They all collectively loose their shit at the mentioned of “votes for women” hahahaha
History is written (and censored) by the Victors.
archive.org/details/HitlersWar-WhatTheHistoriansNeglectToMentiontestVersion
archive.org/details/NationalSocialismExplainedErnstZundel
There’s a murderers row of talent in this film.
Oh if we could bring these gentlemen forward in time. They would die from shock. Blacks AND women having the vote and a black President and a women Secretary of State, LoL.
Damn Arnold Rothstein grew a great beard
My wife can’t pick out what to have for dinner, why should she vote?
Based.
Because she's a citizen, like it or not. Tell her to be more decisive if her dithering bothers you so much and don't judge all women based on the one who chose to call you her spouse.
I'm from Kentucky.. and this means everything.
Poor George as a Southern, I have sympathy for the man, and then he double changed his mind when it got to the nitty gritty every one on his side of the aisle went crazy...
The whole chamber erupts, both parties, every single member: "NO! DON'T BE RIDICULOUS!"
"What will come next? Votes for Women?"
Well he wasn't wrong and it's damn good that our country is giving equal rights to all citizens, regardless of race or gender.
yup
@Fish Fingers damn who hurt you
Yeah, look at how that turned out. Feminism and marxism, Orwellian nightmares for everyone.
There were no windows at the House of Representatives as well as the Senate chambers. Huge skylights at the ceilings provided light during daytime.
1:28 - 1:35 when the smart kid in class has a different answer to everyone else.
LOL
Based congress was worried about demographic shifts and women voting before it was even a problem.
Rothstein strikes again
he made his greatest bet
Just like a dentist with ether
I was watching this movie and drinking cola, i spit it out😅😆😄
I didn't expect it at all.
This is fucking comedy gold. 😅🙏
Mr. Yeaman was able to see the ensuing problems of identity politics 150 years age
AAAAYYYYYY!!!
Oh wait, too early.
Yeaman was opposing the 13th Amendment until he had that private chat with “Honest Abe,” and then he “saw the light.”
*It is interesting to note...if the United States had lost the War of Independence against Britain , slavery would have been abolished long before 1865 but would have been eliminated in 1807 with Parliaments abolition of the Slave Trade Act.*
The United States outlawed the slave trade in 1808. It worked closely with the British Navy to stop the slave trade; this was the beginning of Anglo-American cooperation on the international stage. The British Empire didn't ban slavery itself until 1833. That said, this is obviously more than thirty years before the US did so at the cost of hundreds of thousands of lives in a Civil War.
@@roryclague5876 ya but they were still paying off slave debts into the 21st century
If the British still owned the states they would have had little reason to abolish slavery and likely would have abolished it in the home isles but let it continue in the colonies. In fact, this is precisely what happened in India, where slavery was not officially abolished until 1861, the same year America broke into civil war over the issue. Furthermore, this act was barely enforced, if at all, as they simply changed the terminology to to it as "benign bondage" and it was allowed to continue into the 1920s.
@@cripple9860 I definitely believe that the decision to abolish slavery in Britain was so they would not see and propagate the horrors and filth within their lands rather than for humanitarian reasons. Like it doesn't take a genius to realize that continuing slavery there would have it establish and grow. Not only that but to add another lower class population by the thousands would not have sat well with them.
In one of those historic ironies, on the day Lincoln was sworn in as president, Czar Alexander II abolished serfdom (slavery light) in Russia with a stroke of the imperial pen.
Thank you for uploading this clip!
They got really good actors for these bit parts. My god, James Spader, Tim Blake Nelson and John Hawkes were cast as mere hatchetmen.
150 years later we have proven they were right...
What right?women get to vote now don't mention Afganistan please
About what?
This was America then, and it still hasn't changed.
Michael Stuhlbarg delivering sick lines
“Votes for Women?” NOOOO!
well, at least they can agree with one thing.
I find it funny how the mention of allowing women to vote made congress lose their shit. How times have changed
Yo that all sounds dope actually lmao
well it did come by 1920
In 55 years, you have the time to ctrl+f5 the congress.
"Not for some miserable little job anyways" lolololol
Lol, less than 20 years before Women will being to receive the right to vote in Wyoming. The old Men did not like the times changing, but change they did. 55 years after this, it was done.
The original boomers
Woman voting... THE HORROR
My god what's to become of us...
We're living in times when unfortunately we are witnessing these horrors
@Raa16 in my decades of traversing the internet I've never seen so much small dick energy concentrated in one singular troll. Fascinating.
@Harry Paul Imagine using the word "incel" as an insult unironically...
Bet you think people like Belle Delphine are in the right too, correct?
We're seeing the degenerate woke results of just that
At least his accent is correct. I’m from Kentucky, and 9 out of 10 times, actors get it wrong..it’s not an easy accent.
Yeaman did have a point:
"America freed the slaves in 1863, through the Emancipation Proclamation of Abraham Lincoln, but gave the slaves no land, and nothing in reality. And as a matter of fact, to get started on.
At the same time, America was giving away, millions of acres of land in the west and the Midwest. Which meant that there was a willingness to give the white peasants from Europe an economic base, and yet it refused to give its black peasants from Africa, who came here involuntarily in chains and had worked free for two hundred and forty-four years, any kind of economic base.
And so emancipation for the Negro was really freedom to hunger. It was freedom to the winds and rains of Heaven. It was freedom without food to eat or land to cultivate and therefore was freedom and famine at the same time."
"Vote for women", all hell broke loose.
The thought of Allowing Black people to be set free and you had pockets of strong disagreement. Ya mention Votes for Women and the whole place burns down 😏
...votes for women?
Bro had a point. The slippery slope is real. We shouldn’t have set them free
They are still mere children...(and I don't speak of the women).
I keep forgetting this is Arnold Rothstein from Boardwalk Empire.
The way things are going I can’t really blame the last part. Give all men the right to vote but women? *_NO!_*
1912- what's next?! Women drivers??!
Fun Fact: He was made the Ambassador to Denmark because he switched
One dude in the back: "Um... yes?"
Gene Hackman would've been great in this movie (in his later years), he had the same screen dominance of Tommie Lee Jones. Regardless, there are superb scenes in this film.
YRG SLANDER WILL NOT BE TOLERATED!!!
1:27-1:29 best part.
This man was a prophet
Rep. Yeaman: “...universal enfranchisement?”
The House: “No”
Rep. Yeaman: “Votes for women?”
The House: “CKESJFOWXJRBQJDJREKXNRWBXKRCKRNACJEXKTKRXJNFWJSOREKCRNDOVOROCJFEJXJRJWOSORSFKROXIFKEKXJKGSJVJEKVJORAICWJXIIF”
Funny is that
Century and a half later.
US has many women in congress.
Their house speaker is a woman
and so is their incoming vice president
Of all the states to grant women the right to vote, the Mormon bastion of Utah was the first, less then 6 years from the events here. And in 1896 they won the right again. Mr. Yeaman was 100% correct.
Yeaman was of course... factually on the correct.
That's why there's such Hilary Hatred ...
Interesting that at the time of the vote, Mr. Yeamen, a Kentucky slaveowner of the Unionist party, had lost his election so he was a Lame Duck when he voted...but...he landed on his feet with an appointment as Minister to Denmark this same year and served for five years and then became a Lecturer on Constitutional Law in NY. He died in 1908 at the age of 78.
I’m surprised Kentucky choose neutrality during the Civil War. I always thought they were a member of the Confederacy but Google proved me wrong.
The difference being that every man that could vote still had conscription as a prerequisite of that right. Still do.
This guy is Ted Cruz
I like how the more liberal the conversation gets the more mad they get first they talk about letting black people vote and get rights half the crowd cheers then letting universal votes they start complaining then at the end he says women should vote the crowd gets super mad then there is one guy cheering for women's rights in the back the guy was ahead of his time . Really shows how confusing 1800 liberal politics was
sounded like Yeaman was for it. And i read he had to move to NJ.
Speaker Colfax = The Greek from S2 The Wire
Very easy to pummel people from the past with depictions articulated to sate the present.
Right is right and wrong is wrong, time doesnt change that. There were abolitionist during the revolutionary war. People knew it was wrong then. Thomas Jefferson wanted to abolish slavery in the declaration of independence but the idea was deemed too radical
@@boricualink That is an ignorant thing to say and your "evidence" to back that up is hardly related and or coherent.
sk 1278 the only ignorant one here is you. You should really do some research, Abigail Adams, Benjamin franklin and Thomas Jefferson believed slavery was wrong. You realize there's a rough draft of the Declaration of Independence? Or do you think it was just written in one pass? Be honest did you think the most important document in American history laying out the rights of all men was written in a single draft? It wasn't and the earlier drafts exist to this day. Jefferson painted a very unflattering picture of slavery in it. John and Abigail Adams had probably the most prolific correspondence of any couple during that period having written over 1100 documents. She was very clear on her views of slavery and women's rights. Benjamin franklin, you know him right? He originally thought black people did not possess the intellect that white people did and therefore weren't entitled to the same rights, he went to Africa and after seeing African children learning to read and write became a very outspoken critic of slavery. You know he had a printing press right? his views are well documented. People knew it was wrong then, plain and simple. Not sure why you folks like to muddy the waters
@@boricualink 1. Prove any of that happened 2. Critiquing the past by applying modern day ideals and ethics is just ridiculous, plain and simple. They are completely different times with completely different context. Is it true that many people thought slavery was wrong back then? Sure it's true. Is it true that many things back then are seen in similar light today? Of course! However, with this in mind, it is still unacceptable to label and critique the past in retrospect of today's context.
@@Legodude552 from Abigail Adam's personal correspondence to John Adam's " I wish most sincerely there was not a Slave in the province. It allways appeard a most iniquitious Scheme to me-fight ourselfs for what we are daily robbing and plundering from those who have as good a right to freedom as we have. You know my mind upon this Subject." Here is a li k to the original scan of the letter www.masshist.org/digitaladams/archive/doc?id=L17740922aa. Heres a link to the original petition from the Pennsylvania society on the abolition or slavery signed by Benjamin Franklin to Congress, he was president of that society. Gee I wonder what the president of the Pennsylvania society on the abolition of slavery thought about slavery? Here is a link to the original rough draft of the declaration of independence from the library of Congress. www.loc.gov/exhibits/declara/ruffdrft.html
The founders weren't the ignorant primitives you take them for friend.
they saw potential in him after MIB3
Abraham actually got a #cents of #humOr
Oh man they already at Lincoln 5? i only watched the first one?
They kind of missed an opportunity by not having the character named “Yeaman” vote “yea.”
Sadly amazing how that pecking order hasn't changed.
where was this filmed?
Wotes 4 women... lets not loose our sense of proportion!
This reminds me of South park...rabble, rabble,rabble!
Back before the huge mistake. The 19th amendment. Sad reality.
Human's doing the best they could at the time.
@Doug Bevins They were human, just like us. Yes there was political grandstanding, ambition, corruption.... The film shows all of that. But there were also men of principle who were raised in a far different time with far different attitudes. They, like every other culture on the planet, saw themselves as the best of humanity. Ask almost any Englishman of the time, any Frenchmen and so on and you'd get the same sort of egotistical nationlistic response that their race and nation was far above all of the others. In the Lincoln/Douglas debates Douglas made the point that the black man was not equal to the white because of the civilization that the white man had built while the black had not. He didn't believe in slavery, but he didn't believe in equality either. They didn't know that the system was wrong, they believed it was right and they weren't all evil because of that belief. It was how they were raised, it was what they were taught and it takes a very special person to look at everything he's believed in his life and realize it is wrong. At any rate they're all long since dead and gone and have faced what ever consequences await all mortals.
What's next equality under law, votes for women, it would be inhuman not to.
Good thing he didn't bring up gay marriage.
Back when this country still had its shit together lol
There is a common mistake of dragging todays world into any analysis of historical facts . In order to contextualize history we need to look at historical figures in the times thry lived and understand , that if you exsisted at this time , your views would be similar
Shit, in my country, women got the vote before poor people did.