IS METHODICAL ACTUALLY GOOD?

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Komentáře • 133

  • @ThePhiphler
    @ThePhiphler Před měsícem +53

    Entire comment section recieve compensation from the BKB Industrial Complex.

    • @m4yb432
      @m4yb432 Před měsícem +1

      Hey, I know you, you're the professional glazer that everyone's been talking about

  • @dm9910
    @dm9910 Před měsícem +168

    funny that waga dies half a dozen times to no BKB vs hoodwink grim void, blames storm, then finally buys bkb and doesn't die for the rest of the game

    • @marcoballan4067
      @marcoballan4067 Před měsícem +50

      Standard carry behaviour

    • @danielepallassini3364
      @danielepallassini3364 Před měsícem +38

      And gets mad to the guy spamming bkb in chat LOL

    • @dodgek5270
      @dodgek5270 Před měsícem +24

      Funny his pride couldn't take it when chat knew better. Lol.

    • @DarkAssasin261
      @DarkAssasin261 Před měsícem +11

      The more they spammed “bkb” in chat, the less he wanted to get one just to prove his point. But he ultimately realized he couldn’t win without one i suppose

    • @MrJpc1234
      @MrJpc1234 Před měsícem +7

      Because BKB is a boring item when you are experimenting and some people get self righteous that a streamer should be playing absolutely optimal at all times and fet smug when they criticise him as if he doesn't know bkb is better

  • @PombaoDumau
    @PombaoDumau Před měsícem +39

    Bkb salesman was right

  • @kueapel911
    @kueapel911 Před měsícem +18

    Absolute rayne agency school behavior, avoiding BKB until the cover was blown.

  • @ReallHeroes
    @ReallHeroes Před měsícem +108

    Died all game with silly silences and refuse to buy bkb for no reason, buys bkb and game is over after one fight

    • @orlandoactab3034
      @orlandoactab3034 Před měsícem +30

      the masculine urge to not buy the silly yellow item and stand your ground against 5 enemies.

    • @dodgek5270
      @dodgek5270 Před měsícem +7

      He is toxic. What's new?

    • @revakriid
      @revakriid Před měsícem +12

      and overly blames storm on top of him being carried lmao

  • @cryogenical_
    @cryogenical_ Před měsícem +51

    Feel like no BKB this game was beyond greedy, you'd have been able to turn so many fights so much easier with the amount of silence, stun and slow they have on their spells. They're just kiting you as they run out your team's mana and spells.

    • @kueapel911
      @kueapel911 Před měsícem +1

      The enemies are asking themselves, PA no BKB? Who paid him???

  • @Marlonbc90
    @Marlonbc90 Před měsícem +18

    Something something BKB...
    Did I do it right? 😂

  • @daveabbymangampoalano655
    @daveabbymangampoalano655 Před měsícem +22

    Waga really needed that BKB much earlier lmao

  • @vsqshok
    @vsqshok Před měsícem +31

    I might be wrong but it feels like hes ego gets in the way big time when people point out things to him during games.
    "Im 9k player youre prob a legend player, i dont have to listen to you".
    Even when the thing the person in chat pointed out makes a lot of sense.

    • @dodgek5270
      @dodgek5270 Před měsícem +3

      You're not wrong. Watch his vids. He has an ego.

    • @manithierry-mieg3704
      @manithierry-mieg3704 Před měsícem +2

      ​@@dodgek5270Yeah but put yourself in his shoes. He IS 8k and people who Are 3k keep telling him how to play every.single.day. And 9/10 times they're wrong.

    • @rossstrickland1722
      @rossstrickland1722 Před 28 dny

      @@manithierry-mieg3704 Yeah but in his shoes I am wondering how someone who is 8k doesn't see that bkb is necessary.

  • @MinuanoSam
    @MinuanoSam Před měsícem +24

    Always better with BKB, the PA plays were better without being chained disabled.

    • @zhaskeidimaano5565
      @zhaskeidimaano5565 Před měsícem

      they dont even need stuns just silences from grim, bloodthorn and 2 void w's

  • @shnorkeythefourth4572
    @shnorkeythefourth4572 Před měsícem +5

    Really hate how they reused ability icons. I was so confused where the jingu stacks were coming from the first time I played against this facet
    Additionally I remember seeing abbadons curse counter somewhere but I forget who uses it now

    • @tyustarks
      @tyustarks Před měsícem

      They'll slowly update that but yeah it is confusing

    • @redex68
      @redex68 Před měsícem +2

      Silencer's glaives use the abbadon curse icon. They often do that until they make actual icons later on.

    • @shnorkeythefourth4572
      @shnorkeythefourth4572 Před měsícem

      @@redex68 thanks, was bugging me not remembering

  • @SolidMublo
    @SolidMublo Před měsícem +9

    I would have written another comment about Waga just not buying BKB but I see you all already did that

  • @BaooO0o
    @BaooO0o Před měsícem +1

    I love your videos, Waga. Helps me fall asleep!

  • @practic4l349
    @practic4l349 Před měsícem +19

    bkb doesn't exist i guess

  • @rynaro88
    @rynaro88 Před měsícem +1

    I think methodical could be viable if they drop the counter by 1. So often, people just run away with max stacks instead of die from the next crit hit. It should ideally sync up with 1 crit for 1 full-duration phantom strike, I think, and nerf damage abit. That would make it good. That way, you can go echo+max phantom strike for early crit kills and work up towards bigger attack-speed items. So then methodical facet then replaces farm with bfury for items with farm heroes for items. Almost functions like a 3 pos I guess in a way making plays.

  • @zaidaanmuhammad4782
    @zaidaanmuhammad4782 Před měsícem

    I assume it boost a bit in early game farming performance, and enables PA to basic attack-oneshot

  • @haze6015
    @haze6015 Před měsícem

    why mjj and not deso?

  • @Michael-ie5mw
    @Michael-ie5mw Před měsícem

    How to enable the fire effect on the hero icons on health bars?

  • @cha3ryb3rry
    @cha3ryb3rry Před měsícem

    Where does the mathematical basis for PA's crit chance based from? Your PC's computing power or does the valve server have like L4D2's director where it chooses when to proc it? Really curious about this

    • @johncarloscritica9471
      @johncarloscritica9471 Před 18 dny

      Pseudo random generator based on empirical formula.
      Example, formula->if odd crit, if even, no crit, just hypothetical.

    • @randomrussianguy4478
      @randomrussianguy4478 Před 13 dny

      As pointed out it's pseudo random. Each consecutive non crit hit ups your chance to crit in the next hit and vice versa, even if it's not stated anywhere. All of the game mechanics are based on server component.

  • @-grumpygold1155
    @-grumpygold1155 Před měsícem +1

    im not sold by the mjolnir buy, the biggest crit proc difference in terms of time taken was the echo saber, like sure it *did* proc faster with mjolnir... but it wasnt super fast, like a quarter second faster if anything but you traded the bigger dmg and armor reduction for farming speed+ some AS on a fighting build which is kinda big

  • @BeefyKeeef
    @BeefyKeeef Před měsícem +2

    How much did the BKB industry pay the comment section for their product placement.

  • @egorpanteleev6804
    @egorpanteleev6804 Před 29 dny

    the whole late game i was saying that he needed BKB, the guy in his chat wasn't wrong, BKB carried the next fight after buying it

  • @mrmegusta5652
    @mrmegusta5652 Před měsícem

    this AA suport is the most frag stealer of all mankind

  • @jarreththomson4535
    @jarreththomson4535 Před 24 dny

    is it just me or is there a pattern of wagga getting AA supports who make life hard lol

  • @sentinel7756
    @sentinel7756 Před měsícem +1

    The amount of rants and complains over Waga not buying bkb here in comments is mind boggling

  • @Mabujold
    @Mabujold Před měsícem

    Tried this facet recently and I absolutely loved it. Bfurry with the added crit damage does crazy amount of damage.
    The thing I hate the most about this facet is how bad blur is with the facet. It's fine to have less impactful skills but this is just terrible AND boring. I hope they do something about it.

  • @safau25
    @safau25 Před měsícem

    Fights just stay longer because pa need to throw 2 daggers to get a crit...

    • @RuRu0091
      @RuRu0091 Před měsícem +1

      Bruh, u talking like regular ult in regular fight gonna proc at the first dagger

  • @abam9787
    @abam9787 Před měsícem +7

    It's for early hero-farming and not creep farming, end of story.

    • @RuRu0091
      @RuRu0091 Před měsícem

      Metho deal more damage overall

    • @sneakrrr
      @sneakrrr Před měsícem

      wouldn’t it be about sacrificing safety in afk farming for faster farming? I guess it also makes you jungle farm more than lane farm since you can’t stealth clear the lane. at the very least jungling will be like that, haven’t tried if active carry is better.
      side note: I also think this makes PA build more atk speed than damage since the crit damage boost helps offset the dps loss. butterfly then becomes more important to build to lower BAT

    • @RuRu0091
      @RuRu0091 Před měsícem

      @@sneakrrr what u mean safety? People can still ur hero outline
      Blur rn is just a movement speed boost u still cant farm the lane with blur

    • @RuRu0091
      @RuRu0091 Před měsícem

      @@sneakrrr what u mean more att speed metho litterally deal 30 percent more damage than regular ult on everage
      Try on practice, hit the dummy for ur skill 2 duration
      Metho is soo much better

    • @sneakrrr
      @sneakrrr Před měsícem

      @@RuRu0091 I mean safety as in you won’t lose hp while farming jungle or lanes since blur won’t be removed. can farm ancients sooner with blur facet
      and blur facet can still help if you’re in lower mmr since there will be less people actually moving their cam to the lane to see if PA is there (if they’re not already in that lane, and since PA’s hero icon won’t show on the minimap)

  • @Paul-dh1rh
    @Paul-dh1rh Před měsícem +2

    we already have AdmiralBulldog as the 'no BKB buying dota 2 streamer' sir. please invent your own genre

  • @m4yb432
    @m4yb432 Před měsícem +24

    Complaining about buying a bkb, but after buying bkb the game changes so much, such an L take

    • @marvelousmarshmallow6232
      @marvelousmarshmallow6232 Před měsícem +14

      Yeah, he just hated to admit his wrong. Which is why at the end he destroy the bkb.

    • @riank1418
      @riank1418 Před měsícem +2

      The thing about bkb is that its so boring item to buy

    • @mehomuiki3886
      @mehomuiki3886 Před měsícem

      Lol it's just a joke

    • @RuRu0091
      @RuRu0091 Před měsícem

      Its a must on hero like pa
      Game is u playble without bkb​@@riank1418

    • @Jin-1337
      @Jin-1337 Před měsícem +7

      ​@@riank1418If you wanna play casual sure but not buying in ranked is griefing

  • @yK-oq3to
    @yK-oq3to Před měsícem +12

    and dats why he isnt playing on a pro level. PA without a bkb is pure griefing. choosing deso2 over mirror is also a noob move considering what the mirror does for omnislash, silence etc

  • @dachyvashakmadze1871
    @dachyvashakmadze1871 Před měsícem +4

    😂 not brought bkb and Fleming shtorm

  • @asdf852asdf
    @asdf852asdf Před měsícem +2

    The AS Vs Damage discussion is so dumb when you realize it ultimately don't matter if the PA can't hit people.

  • @johnfilhmarola5440
    @johnfilhmarola5440 Před měsícem

    that's the worst AA support you can ever have. youre the one that's being a support at that game

  • @Tirreg88
    @Tirreg88 Před měsícem

    19:45 this time storm was not to blame thou.

  • @ignacioalmonacid6153
    @ignacioalmonacid6153 Před měsícem

    Preach to the choir! Let Waga cook!

  • @Andinbsb
    @Andinbsb Před 25 dny +1

    BKB save the game and you still complains....

  • @tortoisesoup16
    @tortoisesoup16 Před 20 dny

    These people in the comments are on a payroll from BKB corporation, DON'T TRUST THEM!

  • @muhammedmtc
    @muhammedmtc Před měsícem +1

    Wagamama

  • @cabbage_cat
    @cabbage_cat Před měsícem

    coop the grass

  • @drinksmilo
    @drinksmilo Před měsícem +1

    where bkb

  • @cotaspedro7
    @cotaspedro7 Před měsícem

    gracias por tus videos, pero me incomoda el minimapa, me da ansiedad no poder ver quien viene :/

  • @ndricimhalili9793
    @ndricimhalili9793 Před měsícem +1

    Methodical PA feels like having Fury Swipes, so I don't see why BKB is bad xd

  • @Daikyu9.47
    @Daikyu9.47 Před měsícem

    bee ka bee blah blah

  • @williamgr2147
    @williamgr2147 Před měsícem +1

    I think battle furry is better than mjolnir, cause it gave mana regen

    • @muditkapoor8392
      @muditkapoor8392 Před měsícem

      He has falcon blade. Pa doesn't need that much

    • @johncarloscritica9471
      @johncarloscritica9471 Před 18 dny

      ​@muditkapoor8392 battle fury better than Mjolnir because when he crit he can damage nearby units with crit damage also. Farming also faster.

  • @Sherudons
    @Sherudons Před měsícem +4

    Really hate offlane carries, virtually useless hiding behind everyone when you are meant to be the distraction...
    No bkb was a grief too though, PA and bkb go together like the french and rioting.

    • @dodgek5270
      @dodgek5270 Před měsícem

      But his ego won't let him 😂.

    • @Huskylogic2
      @Huskylogic2 Před měsícem

      It's not like the pos 2 should be the center of attention in the middle of the fight right?

  • @Bloodcel878
    @Bloodcel878 Před měsícem +1

    I feel like even legend player plays better than his PA lol

  • @Blaineeb
    @Blaineeb Před měsícem

    BKB

  • @mahmoudijbariya5625
    @mahmoudijbariya5625 Před měsícem

    Bkb

  • @leonardobargilbargi176
    @leonardobargilbargi176 Před měsícem

    Not lvlin up the passive is just plain stupid

    • @muditkapoor8392
      @muditkapoor8392 Před měsícem

      You only need 1 point in passive. It doesn't give pa anything useful anymore

  • @Bloodcel878
    @Bloodcel878 Před měsícem

    Obviously you need bkb, and so stubborn or overpride to buy BKB? Instead of useless item sny and satanic lol

  • @laiaa9178
    @laiaa9178 Před měsícem

    60mins no bkb PA reported

  • @Robertas919
    @Robertas919 Před měsícem +1

    Funny how BKB actually won the game...

  • @ishaanmalhotra3008
    @ishaanmalhotra3008 Před měsícem +2

    I find those BKB salesmen very annoying as well.

    • @rakerzako
      @rakerzako Před měsícem

      In the end on this specific game they were right

  • @hrprreview9046
    @hrprreview9046 Před měsícem +2

    i think mordecai and waga put this one out for engagements sake. because god damn there's no good aspect in the vids and only swearing and blaming. and yes you got exactly those comments you're looking for. deserved.

  • @sobanya_228
    @sobanya_228 Před měsícem

    Bkb haters unite.

  • @hakesong
    @hakesong Před měsícem +1

    answer: no

    • @RuRu0091
      @RuRu0091 Před měsícem

      Why are u talking the regular ult gonna proc after one dagger? Metho give u more control bro

  • @DenLim123
    @DenLim123 Před měsícem +6

    Who knew buying bkb on pa (a hero notorious for being a glass cannon) would be a good idea. Honestly, sometimes waga shows that his immortal rank ain't exactly deserved, no wonder he can't even win the TI qualifiers against a bunch of random stacks 😂

    • @Huskylogic2
      @Huskylogic2 Před měsícem

      Im not defending waga but the same thing could be said about you. Your point?

  • @WagaGaming
    @WagaGaming  Před měsícem +4

    bkb factory employees in the comments smdh
    /m

  • @6Unknown_Source9
    @6Unknown_Source9 Před měsícem

    c'mon guys, BKB are for nerds who needs bkb with enemy team have disables and silence

  • @RebornYoshi
    @RebornYoshi Před měsícem +1

    small reminder that the reason waga doesn't always instantly buy bkb is to challenge himself or because there are better options. it's not always just hard greeding. would bkb have been very helpful to get it earlier? maybe. however, with that comp, they could very easily just disengage and protect themselves with linkens from the bkb PA and come back after it's over. everyone in the comments screaming about how you know better, keep in mind waga is a very skilled player with a very high understanding of the game. where you see bkb as the only answer, he sees 3 more options that may have been as impactful as bkb.

    • @Newbtuber
      @Newbtuber Před měsícem

      except when he got BKB he never died once and the game ended. He easily cleaned up team fight afterward. The issue was his poor choice of not getting bkb. Getting CC and kited was the biggest issue. At least get manta because without manta, the silence stop him from using his W and therefore no attack speed boost which he needs for this build. If they jump on him he dies instantly.
      Not saying what he did was bad but BKB was the best choice. He tried to dance around it by going all these items when BKB was the answer from the start.

    • @RebornYoshi
      @RebornYoshi Před měsícem +1

      @@Newbtuber you are correct. bkb did end up bring very impactful. however, we can't know at this point if bkb without all the items he had would have had the same impact. they had multiple heroes that are difficult to jump, they had linkens, and he didn't have that much damage built for his crits. as for manta, multiple abilities they had invalidate manta. there was definitely better items, but bkb as fast as the chat wanted would have done nothing.
      lastly, and this is very important. he stated after the patch that most streams would be limit testing and seeing what CAN work. idk how often u watch his vids but his chat is often an echo of ideas that are old and default. some even completely incorrect. he is trying to find new builds and new ways to play. would bkb potentially help? yes. can not going bkb be considered grief? yes. but that's partially due to how much dota is based around buying bkb. i think him trying to see what else can work is ideal.

    • @kylemrf5281
      @kylemrf5281 Před měsícem

      i dont think its “to challenge himself”, more than his ego not to get it since chat was saying it. if he decided to get it early this game, you would be praising him for it instead. he is a skilled player, no doubt. but he does have very obvious ego and tilt issues.

  • @arcadiatf2
    @arcadiatf2 Před měsícem +1

    If you don't understand why waga doesnt want to buy bkb, you are part of the problem

    • @kylemrf5281
      @kylemrf5281 Před měsícem

      and what problem is that?

    • @arcadiatf2
      @arcadiatf2 Před měsícem

      @@kylemrf5281 have you ever watched a waga stream more than 5 mins? Every game is chat saying buy bkb. And he streams 8+ hours very often
      Bkb was useful this game because he was already 6 slotted and a threat, if he gets bkb first he's unlikely to win

    • @kylemrf5281
      @kylemrf5281 Před měsícem

      @@arcadiatf2 not everyone is saying to get it first. please be realistic. but it could be a 3/4 item.. the fact of the matter is he didn’t get bkb due to his pride, not that the item wasn’t good that game.

  • @sudarshanbodke1990
    @sudarshanbodke1990 Před měsícem

    Cry baby waga 😂

  • @alm5851
    @alm5851 Před měsícem +1

    Doesnt look v good

  • @ozziedood
    @ozziedood Před měsícem

    Everyone is bashing Waga for not buying a BKB, but he legit wouldn't have had to if any one of his supports bought a Lotus Orb!

    • @revakriid
      @revakriid Před měsícem +2

      like that would be prioritized over glimmer, force, euls, and ghost scepter against their enemies

    • @noobbll
      @noobbll Před měsícem

      ​@@revakriidhis support if fricking aa and phx, by the time the walk into pa they be dead by vs. Idk why you defending waga here, like ironically he said himself that he got silence for so long. its VS aghs and grim silence, he cant cast spell ffs lotus cant do much

    • @revakriid
      @revakriid Před měsícem +1

      @@noobbll try reading my comment again and point where I defended him.

    • @kylemrf5281
      @kylemrf5281 Před měsícem

      ah, yes. the expected ‘its the supports fault!’ was waiting for this comment. lmao.

    • @noobbll
      @noobbll Před měsícem

      @@revakriid ehh i was going to original comment poster, idk why i mention you lol

  • @midget5632
    @midget5632 Před měsícem +1

    Why is waga so passive aggressive when explaining, is that a European thing

    • @hqd6073
      @hqd6073 Před měsícem +1

      My biggest pet peeve with him. I watch 90% of his vids, hang out in stream, and watch vods, but good god I HATE when someone asks a question that is clearly meant to help them learn (or fuck it, even an annoying question) and he takes on this "well if you had an OUNCE of understanding of this game I've played for thirty thousand hours, you'd be able to come to this conclusion it takes me 60 seconds to spell out for your slow, incompetent brain" tone.
      He's one of my favorite streamers and a great guy in general, and I can DEFINITELY see how the various morons and assholes in chat and in game can tick you off and you can get tired of answering the same shit when you have to play this game 10+ hours a day for decades. But this is one thing I wish he would work on a little, for himself if not for his viewers. It's just not worth the frustration, dude. Relax. And if you're too irritated to answer the question politely, just give a "I've answered that already" or "Sorry, that's a long answer and I haven't got the bandwidth at the moment." Much better than wasting your time chewing out some guardian or ancient player.

    • @rakerzako
      @rakerzako Před měsícem

      ​@@hqd6073he's condescending knowing that his viewers aren't on par with him