How Does A Hit And Miss Engine Work ?

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  • @joyce120860
    @joyce120860 Před 2 lety +43

    Some would call this “primitive” technology, but clearly a lot of thinking was involved in designing and building these engines. Very nice, thanks for the vid.

    • @BAGOTCORNER
      @BAGOTCORNER  Před 2 lety +1

      Thanks for watching

    • @Ahmadsyar
      @Ahmadsyar Před 2 měsíci +3

      Primitive also translates to high reliability. These days every thing modern requires delicate care and maintenance.

    • @BAGOTCORNER
      @BAGOTCORNER  Před 2 měsíci +1

      @Ahmadsyar you are correct!😊

    • @BAGOTCORNER
      @BAGOTCORNER  Před 2 měsíci +1

      @Ahmadsyar you are correct!😊

  • @davidcastillo379
    @davidcastillo379 Před 2 lety +8

    I'm 42 and have heard these engines run all my life and never knew how they worked until now

  • @Chevsilverado
    @Chevsilverado Před 3 lety +4

    That makes a lot more sense. I saw a few hit miss engine videos and I thought they were just crappy old engines that barely worked.

  • @Mr67chev
    @Mr67chev Před 4 lety +22

    Nice job on the explanation. I have been collecting and working on these engines for 40 + years.
    I've heard a lot of people trying to explain and it didn't sound like they really even understood it themselves. These old engines are pretty fun, in the early days everybody tried to come up with new ideas of ways of doing things just a little differently.

    • @GONZODIGITALSOLDIER-mo4tl
      @GONZODIGITALSOLDIER-mo4tl Před rokem +2

      Hi, If you want a garage full of these hit-miss engines....the local Craigslist-Roseburg, Oregon free section, ( or the antique section), has a guy trying to find a home for his collection....make offer....that's why I'm here looking at what one looks like, etc.....I'm thinking these hit-miss engines could realy come in handy in the near term....bet for fuel, you can subsitute regular fuel to kerosene, or other.....

  • @MalcOfLincoln
    @MalcOfLincoln Před 7 lety +71

    Modern hit n miss engine. When the throttle cable breaks and you jam it flat out, turning the ignition on and off lol.

    • @BAGOTCORNER
      @BAGOTCORNER  Před 7 lety +8

      Lol exactly it buddy !!!

    • @NowAndyPlays
      @NowAndyPlays Před 6 lety +6

      the explosions out of the exhaust when you turn it on and off

    • @BAGOTCORNER
      @BAGOTCORNER  Před 6 lety +3

      +Andy [Xvixx] you ain’t wrong Andy :)

    • @xruckx
      @xruckx Před 6 lety +5

      That's how I have to start my snowmobile it will only run when you first start it with the choke but it will take off because it will hit like 6k rpm so I have to cut it when rpm get high I could just adjust the carb but this way is more entertaining

  • @PunakiviAddikti
    @PunakiviAddikti Před 6 lety +179

    So hit n miss engines only strike when the flywheel rpm drops enough, to give the flywheel a push and keep it rotating, then waits until the flywheel speed drops again. Quite interesting. I would imagine these engines are pretty fuel efficient?

    • @BAGOTCORNER
      @BAGOTCORNER  Před 6 lety +53

      PunakiviAddikti you nailed it !
      Thanks for watching :)

    • @twistedyogert
      @twistedyogert Před 4 lety +29

      @Poly Bun If my knowledge is correct, these engines were in use before anti-knock additives were added to gasoline so compression couldn't be very high because of knocking.

    • @twistedyogert
      @twistedyogert Před 4 lety +16

      @Delta Fox A good way to apocalypse-proof your home.

    • @smrtrbl86
      @smrtrbl86 Před 3 lety +34

      Saw a guy today with a bigger one and he said five gallons last him 4 days 18 hours a day

    • @smrtrbl86
      @smrtrbl86 Před 3 lety +8

      @Mo no I'm sure most of the time was idling because he was grinding cornmeal at Canton Texas. So he definitely didn't need it grinding constantly. But he left it running the whole time

  • @twitchyourwhiskers
    @twitchyourwhiskers Před 7 lety +4

    Hi Vince, Great video. It brings me back to a very happy time with my dad. Thank you.

  • @richgg2
    @richgg2 Před 6 lety +9

    Thanks, I had seen one of those engines at a fair when I was a kid. I wondered why the engine was firing every so often. Now I know thanks to you.

    • @BAGOTCORNER
      @BAGOTCORNER  Před 6 lety +1

      richgg2 thanks for stopping in 👍
      Glad I was able to clear it all up 😊

  • @MattulaTaylor
    @MattulaTaylor Před 5 lety +3

    Thank you very much for this video. I'm about to buy a couple of engines from my elderly long time client. Can't wait !!!

    • @BAGOTCORNER
      @BAGOTCORNER  Před 5 lety +1

      +Matt Taylor good luck .
      Message back so I can see them run 😊👍

  • @johnclark114
    @johnclark114 Před 4 lety +4

    Excellent tutorial video. I bought a 1923 1.5 hp Fuller and Johnson yesterday. It runs, but needs tuning. This is my 2nd hit and miss engine. Fun hobby to get involved in.

    • @BAGOTCORNER
      @BAGOTCORNER  Před 4 lety +1

      John Clark hope to see it run
      I’m a video 👍😊

  • @blackicenetwork7327
    @blackicenetwork7327 Před 4 lety +4

    What a wonderful clear video. really like how you zoomed in to key parts, etc. Thank you for this!

  • @ericdee6802
    @ericdee6802 Před 3 lety +1

    Outstanding video, I love that Engine. I can watch that thing all day long and never get bored.🇺🇸✌️

  • @christopherlawley1842
    @christopherlawley1842 Před 4 lety +3

    Now I understand. Thank you for a clear and concise explanation

  • @SgtBerryhill
    @SgtBerryhill Před 6 lety +14

    Good tutorial on these engines. Thanks.

  • @jasondallsy9413
    @jasondallsy9413 Před 4 lety +3

    Great Explanation... You Answered All My Questions in The Video

  • @smrtrbl86
    @smrtrbl86 Před 3 lety +4

    Man. Thank you for that. I have always wondered. But never been able to find anyone who really knew. Only ever found these type of motors after my grandpa passed. Turned out the last one operating an oil well in my area was actually installed by my grandpa around 1950. And still runs today. Thank you so much for this video.

    • @BAGOTCORNER
      @BAGOTCORNER  Před 3 lety +2

      Stephan Gardner I’m glad it helped you out .
      Still a running today ! That’s pretty cool

    • @BAGOTCORNER
      @BAGOTCORNER  Před 3 lety +1

      Where are you located

    • @smrtrbl86
      @smrtrbl86 Před 3 lety +1

      @@BAGOTCORNER north Texas on Lake texoma

    • @BAGOTCORNER
      @BAGOTCORNER  Před 3 lety +1

      Stephan Gardner ahhh way down there !

    • @smrtrbl86
      @smrtrbl86 Před 3 lety +1

      @@BAGOTCORNER czcams.com/video/nlON4rpvGGQ/video.html here's the one I saw today. In a few days I'll get a video of the one my grandpa installed

  • @larryscott3982
    @larryscott3982 Před 5 lety +2

    About critical questions were answered. Most enlightening is the intake valve. And 2 or 4 stroke.
    Good vid.

    • @BAGOTCORNER
      @BAGOTCORNER  Před 5 lety +1

      Larry Scott glad you liked it .
      The intake valve is so incredibly simplistic .
      Requires no timing other than to have the exhaust valve close at the correct position and for there to be compression /suction

  • @adambaird8284
    @adambaird8284 Před 4 lety +8

    thank your for such a great video , i just picked up an engine from my father inlaw thats used to ru a pump on the family farm

    • @BAGOTCORNER
      @BAGOTCORNER  Před 4 lety +1

      That’s great ! What type of Engine is it ?
      Thanks for stopping in 👍🏻😉

  • @paullemay3218
    @paullemay3218 Před 6 lety +5

    Very well explained. I never knew or could figure out how these engines worked. Thank you for sharing 🇨🇦❄️

    • @BAGOTCORNER
      @BAGOTCORNER  Před 6 lety +3

      Paul LeMay thanks Paul for coming by .
      I hope I was successful in properly and clearly explaining it all :)

    • @paullemay3218
      @paullemay3218 Před 6 lety +1

      Bagot Corner well for me you did. I have a great understanding of 2 stroke and 4 stroke engines but could not grasp how a hit and miss engine could keep running. Thank you again.

  • @michaelamos8271
    @michaelamos8271 Před 5 lety +3

    Kudos on the video camera work .
    An excellent video and educational talk .
    Thank you

  • @djfaber
    @djfaber Před 6 lety +1

    Great demonstration and explanation of how hit and miss engines generally operate.

    • @BAGOTCORNER
      @BAGOTCORNER  Před 6 lety +1

      cfaber thanks very much ,,I hope you didn’t fall asleep 💤

  • @rideonkc
    @rideonkc Před 3 lety +1

    Great video!
    Thank You

  • @KRConnection
    @KRConnection Před 5 lety +2

    Thank you,nice presentation.

  • @bdhd206
    @bdhd206 Před 5 lety +2

    Truly a master class on the hit and miss engine, and the cinematography is fantastic. Thanks!

  • @MrMaxyield
    @MrMaxyield Před 4 měsíci

    This is probably the most comprehensive video explanation I've seen on how the hit and miss engine works. I now have a much better understanding on this wonderful machine...😬
    Thank you sir 🫡

  • @Daledavispratt
    @Daledavispratt Před 7 lety +9

    The best and most comprehensive explanation of the principals of a hit and miss engine, cleared up a lot for me. Thanks for this upload.

    • @BAGOTCORNER
      @BAGOTCORNER  Před 7 lety +2

      dale pratt thanks Dale ,
      That's what I was aiming for and I'm glad I was able to help someone 😊

    • @Daledavispratt
      @Daledavispratt Před 7 lety +1

      Sure thing. :-)

    • @920PC
      @920PC Před 6 lety +1

      dale pratt I agree. I wish there was a way to up vote quality videos like this and make it like protube or something .. rather than just anyone uploading any old crap video .. I am glad I came across this video though he is great

    • @BAGOTCORNER
      @BAGOTCORNER  Před 6 lety +1

      +Kyle B that’s super nice of you to say Kyle !
      Want to come hang out tomorrow with my friends and I ?
      We host a live show Thursday’s 👍😊

  • @austral7634
    @austral7634 Před 3 lety +2

    My compliments on an excellent video describing a portion of history that is a mystery to many and not even known by most. I have the Australian version made by Westinghouse - Rosebery in Sydney. It is of 1937 build, fitted with the Wico EK magneto and originally powered a concrete mixer.

    • @BAGOTCORNER
      @BAGOTCORNER  Před 3 lety +1

      I’d love to see it !
      Do you have any video or photos ?-

  • @dieselsforlife3847
    @dieselsforlife3847 Před 5 lety +4

    Glad to see ppl still interested in these old girls! And well done on the explanation of them. I have some of them my self. But more into the diesels. My boss collects them. I have worked on all of them an made lots of parts for them. Not something u can go to Napa to buy parts for lol.

    • @BAGOTCORNER
      @BAGOTCORNER  Před 5 lety

      Diesels For life lol well that’s why I have a lathe and Mill .
      Anything a man has made can be remade 👍
      Thanks for stopping by 😊

  • @mxcollin95
    @mxcollin95 Před 2 lety +1

    Excellent explanation! Thank you for taking the time to explain the hit and miss operation.

  • @MakeItMetal
    @MakeItMetal Před 7 lety +12

    wow Vince, you took me back to uni with that one. reminded me of one of my old lecturers. loved the video and the editing was awesome! very professional video!

    • @BAGOTCORNER
      @BAGOTCORNER  Před 7 lety +3

      Lol that has got to be the most polite way I've ever heard that something was as boring a hell! 😊

    • @MakeItMetal
      @MakeItMetal Před 7 lety +1

      Lol...I loved my time at uni..and I appreciate a good educational aid such as this video. So thank you Dr Vince phd

  • @bfarm44
    @bfarm44 Před 3 lety +2

    Just getting into these on a model scale but looking at larger ones to collect because I can listen to clickety clack all day long.

  • @unclemarksdiyauto
    @unclemarksdiyauto Před 3 lety

    Excellent video! Never saw how they worked and along with you explanation, i now understand! Thank you!

    • @BAGOTCORNER
      @BAGOTCORNER  Před 3 lety

      Subbed you , thanks for stopping by 👍😊

  • @bstevermer9293
    @bstevermer9293 Před 4 lety +4

    Good job. Always wondered why they miss.

  • @acrob708
    @acrob708 Před 6 lety +2

    Very informative, and interesting, good job.

  • @0Sirk0
    @0Sirk0 Před 6 lety +2

    Beautiful. Wish my bike was that simple lol

  • @irishgoldstacker8018
    @irishgoldstacker8018 Před 3 lety +12

    Interesting. I've seen these engines around on YT. They look pretty cool. I'm a scrapper (scrap metal) I sometimes find interesting things out and about. I'd like to be able to restore stuff but I'm not very mechanical. I saw a comment of yours on Ian Matthews video so I thought I'd check out your channel. Good stuff. You have a ton of subscribers but you can't have too many. Liked and subbed.

  • @63256325N
    @63256325N Před 7 lety +9

    Nicely explained, thanks. And A nice engine too!

    • @BAGOTCORNER
      @BAGOTCORNER  Před 7 lety

      Duncan MacKenzie thanks Duncan !

    • @BAGOTCORNER
      @BAGOTCORNER  Před 6 lety +1

      Miguel Pagan Sr it IS a 4 stroke ,and no ,it’s not complicated .

  • @vanessailott8551
    @vanessailott8551 Před 2 lety

    Brilliant explanation Thankyou. Hit & Miss engines are my most favourite to listen to 😊👍🙏 the slowed down parts of the video to see the detail is most helpful.

  • @palerider55
    @palerider55 Před 5 lety +1

    Great vid.

  • @davidjames1007
    @davidjames1007 Před 5 lety +3

    Very interesting and a beautiful old engine, thank you for sharing

    • @BAGOTCORNER
      @BAGOTCORNER  Před 5 lety +1

      David James thanks for the comment and thank you for stopping by 👍

  • @2rijigtonlager
    @2rijigtonlager Před 5 lety +1

    Thank you sir, i'm about to buy one myself and trying to understand the principle of hit and miss. You helped a lot!

    • @BAGOTCORNER
      @BAGOTCORNER  Před 5 lety

      Jan Jansen glad it helped you .
      Just message me if you need any help .
      I’m always working on them

  • @AridersLifeYT
    @AridersLifeYT Před 3 lety +1

    Thanks for making this, i appreciate it.

  • @PENFOLD1962
    @PENFOLD1962 Před 6 lety +1

    A beautiful piece of engineering, I'd have it as an ornament but then I'd be devorced! Hmmm sound's better by the second lol. They knew how to build to last back in the day's eh! Did you clean it up and paint it yourself? STUNNING JOB👍😉👌

  • @wrenchwiki8036
    @wrenchwiki8036 Před 3 lety

    A truly useful video, well presented

  • @wshtb
    @wshtb Před 3 lety +10

    How is your new car?
    Well, it hits and misses, you know.

  • @cdjhyoung
    @cdjhyoung Před 5 měsíci +1

    Great video on a poorly understood process. Well thought out camera angles too.

  • @valuedhumanoid6574
    @valuedhumanoid6574 Před 6 lety +3

    We have an old John Deere "one lunger" that we still use to split wood with a screw splitter. It just won't quit. I sounds like it's ready to die every few seconds, but it just keeps on chuggin'. As long as it has fuel and a few drops of oil on the moving parts it will not stop.

    • @BAGOTCORNER
      @BAGOTCORNER  Před 6 lety +1

      +SixStringLove Guy they sure are charming aren’t they :)

    • @valuedhumanoid6574
      @valuedhumanoid6574 Před 6 lety +1

      Well, I don't know if "charming" is the word I would choose, but tough, reliable, simple and bullet proof would be better descriptors (much more manly than charming) lol

  • @red66chevy
    @red66chevy Před 6 lety +1

    thank you for the detailed explanation

    • @BAGOTCORNER
      @BAGOTCORNER  Před 6 lety

      red66chevy thank you for stopping by !
      I really do appreciate it 😊

  • @gregschultz2029
    @gregschultz2029 Před 3 lety

    Very Nice Job On Your Video,OMG Those Engineers Were Sharp ,No Computers,Amazing !!!

  • @920PC
    @920PC Před 6 lety +2

    Excellent video. Great quality. Well explained. Great Work!

    • @BAGOTCORNER
      @BAGOTCORNER  Před 6 lety +1

      +Kyle B thanks Kyle 👍

    • @920PC
      @920PC Před 6 lety

      Bagot Corner .. just curious how scripted is this you are extremely knowledgeable. Was there a lot of post processing. honestly the production value here is TV Worthy

    • @BAGOTCORNER
      @BAGOTCORNER  Před 6 lety

      +Kyle B as far as organizing my thoughts ,I jot down talking points for videos like these .
      Same as the shear pin vid .
      I just jot a few talking points pre recording ,then some vid clean up and that’s about it .
      It’s been very very cold here this winter so production has stalled on a lot of projects .
      Finally this week we’ve had a break in the weather ,,so this spring I’ll be back at it again weekly .

  • @jeric_synergy8581
    @jeric_synergy8581 Před 5 lety +3

    Dry, yet informative. Thanks!

    • @BAGOTCORNER
      @BAGOTCORNER  Před 5 lety

      jeric_ synergy lol i aim to please 😂

  • @TheElverma
    @TheElverma Před 6 lety +1

    Excellent explanation. Very nicely done.

  • @andyschrack4466
    @andyschrack4466 Před 4 lety +2

    I get it now. Thanks.

  • @archerc4828
    @archerc4828 Před 2 lety +1

    Thank you

  • @totskitv
    @totskitv Před 3 lety

    Awesome sir keep it up full support to you

  • @ericeaklor1300
    @ericeaklor1300 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Really good

  • @jasonjoncas5998
    @jasonjoncas5998 Před 5 lety +2

    Very interesting to a late model mechanic.

  • @0Sirk0
    @0Sirk0 Před 6 lety +1

    Follow-up, I know this wouldn't be "period correct" but perhaps leather covers could be made to cover the sides of the connecting rod big end to keep dirt from getting onto the surface. Perhaps just a skirt tied down to the machined part, or a larger cover across the main bearings like a 'T'.
    Could work :)

    • @BAGOTCORNER
      @BAGOTCORNER  Před 6 lety +1

      +Gentleman Hooligan that’s a great idea!
      All of this and safety is why they eventually went to enclosed cases.

    • @0Sirk0
      @0Sirk0 Před 6 lety +1

      glad you like it, would be a neat build video and experiment

  • @briangiesbrecht6333
    @briangiesbrecht6333 Před 3 lety

    Cool video. Subscribed

  • @thegeek0017
    @thegeek0017 Před 2 lety +1

    Looking at this it’s very interesting how that did this mechanical back then. This would be much easier now with Electronic Fuel Injection

  • @dieselsforlife3847
    @dieselsforlife3847 Před 5 lety

    Bagot Corner boss has mill and lathe as well. If he didn’t hobby would be expensive lol. And no problem keep up the good work and videos.

    • @BAGOTCORNER
      @BAGOTCORNER  Před 5 lety

      +Diesels For life thanks buddy ,,
      Part 3 coming on 1.5 hp herc.
      Fitting and grinding valves and stems and cutting seats .
      Lots of numbers
      Come back again 😊👍

  • @northerniltree
    @northerniltree Před 6 lety +1

    I attached a smaller hit and miss (from and old washing machine) to a high wheel velocipede and was stopped by the local constable for operating the motorized apparatus on a bicycle trail in the same town your engine was produced. The matter is set to be heard before a magistrate forthwith. My solicitor assures me that all is well, to fear not.

    • @BAGOTCORNER
      @BAGOTCORNER  Před 6 lety +2

      northerniltree you have to be careful to not have too much fun :)

    • @FlatBroke612
      @FlatBroke612 Před 5 lety +3

      northerniltree ahh laddie... you ‘idn’t has no loicense fah that fangled motah caht did yahs?

  • @staceychaplic6392
    @staceychaplic6392 Před rokem +1

    hit and miss Engine are amzing its sad that we now electricity and not these wonderful engines

  • @VEMWMIKE
    @VEMWMIKE Před 6 lety +1

    Very good explanation sir.

  • @RustyInventions-wz6ir
    @RustyInventions-wz6ir Před 6 měsíci

    Beautiful engine

  • @jensensmith9923
    @jensensmith9923 Před měsícem +1

    How much torque do these engines make?

  • @tedhicks5431
    @tedhicks5431 Před měsícem

    Smart men

  • @MidwestMotoRider
    @MidwestMotoRider Před 7 lety

    Those are cool crazy motor's I wonder what the advantage to that was over the standard 4 stroke motor! Great explanation!

    • @HeavyMetalEngines
      @HeavyMetalEngines Před 7 lety +2

      A normal throttle governor four cycle fires every fourth stroke and controls speed by varying fuel volume with the butterfly valve. Hit and miss only fire when needed so it saves wear on ignition parts and saves battery life.

    • @HeavyMetalEngines
      @HeavyMetalEngines Před 7 lety

      Another difference, this type of hit and miss coasts longer because the exhaust valve is held open and there is no compression resistance. A regular throttle governor engine coasts while also doing compression strokes which slows the engine down.

    • @MidwestMotoRider
      @MidwestMotoRider Před 7 lety

      Thanks very cool info. Thanks for explaining that. I will sure have a better appreciation for them now.

  • @AZaker-jw1fm
    @AZaker-jw1fm Před 5 lety +4

    I have one that hasn’t ran in long time, where can I get help to get it going? And what’s the price range on theses?

    • @BAGOTCORNER
      @BAGOTCORNER  Před 5 lety

      +BIG Z what kind of help do you need ,where are you located ?
      Price range ? 600-800

  • @michaelbauers8800
    @michaelbauers8800 Před rokem

    Made in "Mad Town", nice. To be honest, this feels more complex than a two cycle lawnmower engine.

    • @BAGOTCORNER
      @BAGOTCORNER  Před rokem

      Yep ! Madison .
      I think it seems complex to many ppl because of the systems at work .
      They’re simple to
      Look at but not simple if you’re the first one to develop a design .
      Takes plenty of thought and testing

  • @bobwhite3777
    @bobwhite3777 Před 7 lety +7

    I already know how one worked I just wanted to see how you explained it☺️

    • @BAGOTCORNER
      @BAGOTCORNER  Před 7 lety +3

      +BOB White lol 😊did I do ok Bob?

    • @timgreen4137
      @timgreen4137 Před 6 lety

      Bagot Corner
      Outstanding. The slow-mo helped visualize what I already knew was going on.

    • @timgreen4137
      @timgreen4137 Před 6 lety

      Bagot Corner
      Now to go find one for myself.😊

  • @crimzonplays1134
    @crimzonplays1134 Před 3 měsíci

    I'm still super confused so i'll probably have to watch it five more times 😂

  • @SomeplaceOrAnother
    @SomeplaceOrAnother Před rokem +2

    Very interesting 👍 so I have one question. Why hit and miss and not hit hit like todays motors?

    • @BAGOTCORNER
      @BAGOTCORNER  Před rokem +1

      That’s an excellent question .
      I’ll just throw a few things out , fuel delivery systems were poor until the mid 20’s .
      I have early 1920’s 4 strokes that do have governors and aren’t hit and miss .
      It may be that they they were a tech that just held on till about 1935 and then finally ended .
      There were however a lot of crossover years .
      You do pose an excellent question

    • @SomeplaceOrAnother
      @SomeplaceOrAnother Před rokem

      @@BAGOTCORNER thanks 👍

    • @BAGOTCORNER
      @BAGOTCORNER  Před rokem +1

      @@SomeplaceOrAnother if you find out ,, let me know ! 😊

  • @JoshKilen
    @JoshKilen Před 7 lety +1

    nice video, and great explanation, have you seen 805ROADKING's video on HIT & MISS ENGINE TUTORIAL video?

    • @BAGOTCORNER
      @BAGOTCORNER  Před 7 lety +1

      Josh Kilen hi Josh ,
      Yep ,Rk and I are buddies 😊

  • @Shkvarka
    @Shkvarka Před 4 měsíci

    Very cool to see such old engine in working condition! What was the actual purpose of such engine? Best regards from Ukraine, Odesa!

    • @BAGOTCORNER
      @BAGOTCORNER  Před 4 měsíci +1

      Good morning , thanks for stopping in .
      Theyd have been used to do anything an electric motor does now.
      Run a lineshaft, well pump, grinder , etc.
      Have a nice day

  • @raymondj8768
    @raymondj8768 Před 6 lety +1

    great video well explained i never knew how they worked . thanks alot. ill bet they are great on gas ha?

    • @BAGOTCORNER
      @BAGOTCORNER  Před 6 lety

      +Raymond J thanks for stopping by Ray !
      Lol yep ,good on fuel as long as they aren’t under load :)

    • @raymondj8768
      @raymondj8768 Před 6 lety

      when there under load does it fire every time or will it still miss cause thats how it controls the rpm?

    • @BAGOTCORNER
      @BAGOTCORNER  Před 6 lety +1

      +Raymond J It Will fire every 2 rotations of the crank as long as the governor isn’t latching the exhaust valve open .
      It will latch it open if the governor is below the determined rpm limit .
      The max hp is generally stamped on the tag ,for example 1.5 hp at 600 rpm

    • @BAGOTCORNER
      @BAGOTCORNER  Před 6 lety +1

      +Bagot Corner correction ,,it will latch it open if it is “ABOVE” the rpm preset

    • @raymondj8768
      @raymondj8768 Před 6 lety

      thank you so much i love these engines they sound so cool have a great day buddy !

  • @twistedyogert
    @twistedyogert Před 4 lety

    What were these used for mostly? Generators? Water pumps?

    • @BAGOTCORNER
      @BAGOTCORNER  Před 4 lety +1

      twistedyogert used for running various pieces of equipment as the main source or secondary source through a line shaft .
      Mills , grinders , cutters ,separators ,saws, pumps .
      Mowers

  • @robertpsarudakis3474
    @robertpsarudakis3474 Před 2 lety

    Awesome technology. So does a two stroke fire every revolution where a four stroke fires when the rpm starts winds down (when the governor makes it fire)?

    • @BAGOTCORNER
      @BAGOTCORNER  Před rokem +1

      Hi Robert ,
      You’re mixing two systems together .
      A 2 stroke requires 1 full revolution of the crankshaft to complete its cycles and a 4 stroke requires 2.
      There are also governed 2 stroke engines like Maytags for example .
      Governing isn’t specific to 2 or 4 .
      It is a system of limiting rpm .
      Thanks for commenting , sorry I’m late to answer you

  • @gabbleredneck6318
    @gabbleredneck6318 Před 6 lety

    Cool my papa had 3 or 4 hit n miss engines it’s cool how they work isn’t it?? I think it is

    • @BAGOTCORNER
      @BAGOTCORNER  Před 6 lety

      +Loves miny bike Builds are fun sure is !
      Thank you for stopping in 👍

  • @rogeroconnor5182
    @rogeroconnor5182 Před 7 lety

    cool old engine,i have seen one mounted on a garden tractor at the same show R.K. goes to riding around. perhaps one day i will get one,maybe.... have you seen shopdogsam,s videos??? he has ALOT of engines,and is a good cook to boot!!!!!

    • @BAGOTCORNER
      @BAGOTCORNER  Před 7 lety

      Yep Rog ,seen him ,,watched his stuff for years .
      Seems to be sort of lacking content lately though or maybe he's just getting old.
      He's one of my subs

    • @rogeroconnor5182
      @rogeroconnor5182 Před 7 lety

      i know he was building a new shop,maybe thats why. speaking of content,i plan on putting out a video by Friday. i just picked up a really nice vintage craftsman metal lathe plus some other goodies

    • @BAGOTCORNER
      @BAGOTCORNER  Před 7 lety

      +roger oconnor get that video rolling buddy ! I want to see it!

    • @catsbyondrepair
      @catsbyondrepair Před 6 lety

      They are easy to work on

    • @BAGOTCORNER
      @BAGOTCORNER  Před 6 lety

      +YUKI JINJUJI they could be ! 😊

  • @lknanml
    @lknanml Před 6 měsíci

    First you slip on the oil next to the top off tank. Then you need to use a hammer to get the foot peg out of the flywheel as it's stuck. Then you need to use a hammer to get the foot peg out of the flywheel because you had oil on your shoe and it popped back into the flywheel becoming stuck again. Then you kick the engine over 4 or 5 times till you remember you didn't prime the day tank. Then you kick the wheel over half a dozen times till it starts up. You wait. You wait some more. You know the second you leave the engine room it's going to stall out. Then you leave the engine. Then you repeat all the same steps because as soon as you left the engine room it stalled out.......

  • @ChunkyWaterisReal
    @ChunkyWaterisReal Před 2 lety

    these are so fucking cool.

    • @BAGOTCORNER
      @BAGOTCORNER  Před 2 lety

      They sure are ! Best go get one 😊👍

  • @FlatBroke612
    @FlatBroke612 Před 6 lety +1

    What year is it? My F&J is 1922 serial no. 89216. Yours must be pretty early.

    • @BAGOTCORNER
      @BAGOTCORNER  Před 6 lety +1

      FlatBroke612 1917 buddy 👍
      Serial 57313

  • @kae4466
    @kae4466 Před 6 lety

    a question, are hit and miss engines desisel or gas ? thanks in advance.

    • @BAGOTCORNER
      @BAGOTCORNER  Před 6 lety

      kae4466 I’ve not seen any that are diesel ,though I suspect it could be done with the assistance of a hot bulb .
      The compression would be hard on components and also the fact that hit and miss engines tend to run cool .
      This one is gas.

  • @TahoeRealm
    @TahoeRealm Před 2 lety

    I have a pancake muffler that is louder. Can you tell me what type of muffler is on this engine? Thanks🇺🇸

  • @eharris6347
    @eharris6347 Před 8 měsíci

    It still seems like a very advanced invention
    Where a lot of advanced thought had to go into
    Guessing because im not an engineer

    • @BAGOTCORNER
      @BAGOTCORNER  Před 8 měsíci

      Def not simple if it had never been conceived .
      Someone had to come up with the initial principle ,, then the refining

  • @seeraf
    @seeraf Před 4 měsíci

    on the miss cycle it does not suck fuel at all?

    • @BAGOTCORNER
      @BAGOTCORNER  Před 4 měsíci

      No not possible .
      Ex valve is held open , so theres no vacuum to pull open the intake valve to suck in fuel from the mixer

  • @Engineguy66
    @Engineguy66 Před 6 lety

    My dad has the same one its a 1 1/2 also. Ive been trying to buy it but dont know whats a good price for it. What is it worth

    • @BAGOTCORNER
      @BAGOTCORNER  Před 6 lety

      Michael G Hi Mike ,
      Depends where you’re located .
      Different areas ,,rarity becomes an issue .
      I have a Waterloo Contract engine that’s someone rare around here and it gets a few hundred more than down in the USA.
      Also maytags are far more rare in Canada.
      This Fuller would run about 7-800 bucks in this shape here in 🇨🇦

    • @bstevermer9293
      @bstevermer9293 Před 4 lety

      If it’s your dads, you
      A- just take it.
      B- wait tell he dies.

  • @soggyspaghetty5799
    @soggyspaghetty5799 Před 2 lety +1

    What were the advantages of hit and miss from a regular gas engine other than fuel consumption

    • @BAGOTCORNER
      @BAGOTCORNER  Před 2 lety

      Good morning ,
      There were realistically no advantages and are none .
      Cost was the issue .
      Making affordable throttler engines was more expensive .

    • @soggyspaghetty5799
      @soggyspaghetty5799 Před 2 lety

      OK thank you I was wondering because there’s very mixed answers on that some people will say they will produce more torque and a more even amount and some people will say there’s no advantage they’re just cheaper thank you

    • @BAGOTCORNER
      @BAGOTCORNER  Před 2 lety

      @@soggyspaghetty5799 they do def provide a more even delivery of power .

  • @chrismaze3441
    @chrismaze3441 Před 6 lety +81

    Ask a Chevy owner they can tell you how they work

    • @BAGOTCORNER
      @BAGOTCORNER  Před 6 lety +6

      Chris n Tracy Maze lol ! There ,,my laugh for the day ! 😂

    • @1FireyPhoenix
      @1FireyPhoenix Před 6 lety +6

      Found. On. the Road. Dead.

    • @charlesyoungs1761
      @charlesyoungs1761 Před 6 lety +4

      I bet u drive a toyota

    • @chrismaze3441
      @chrismaze3441 Před 6 lety +3

      Charles Youngs nah I actually own a 2000 Monte Carlo ss bro and a ford

    • @BAGOTCORNER
      @BAGOTCORNER  Před 6 lety +3

      +Chris n Tracy Maze lol are you guys still going on about this ?
      I’m happy with my Nissan Pro4

  • @ihus9950
    @ihus9950 Před 5 lety +1

    👍

  • @jimistephen
    @jimistephen Před 7 lety

    So as a relatively young man (31) who grew up on my grandparents farm in the middle of Indiana, I've been fascinated with these engines for ever. What I've never understood is how the "miss" happens. I know the governor stops it from firing, but to me it seems that there is a weighted arm that is caught and when it goes to fire it tries to let go of that arm, if it's moving fast enough then it catches it again before it can fall, thusly inducing the miss, and if it does fall it hits and then the arm is thrown back forward to get caught again. Is this anywhere close to correct?

  • @rictrexell2118
    @rictrexell2118 Před 6 lety +1

    So what is the purpose of a H&M engine? Fuel economy?

    • @BAGOTCORNER
      @BAGOTCORNER  Před 6 lety +2

      +Ric Trexell hi Ric ,
      Nah ,.you have to realize that the age of hit and miss was in the early days of gas engines .
      It was the least complicated method of managing Engine speed .
      After this ,,throttle governing was and is the method

  • @twistedyogert
    @twistedyogert Před 3 lety

    I'm wondering if any manufacturers tried piezoelectric ignition like on a grill. Or are piezoelectric igniters a new invention?

    • @BAGOTCORNER
      @BAGOTCORNER  Před 3 lety +1

      twistedyogert it’s not new ,, but the issue of using one has been to get one to last .
      I know of one gentleman ( since deceased)that tried one and found it to be less than fantastic .
      I believe either Briggs or evinrude had piezo spark .
      But again ,, just not durable .
      www.eldensengines.com/Otherstuff/Piezospark/Piezospark.html

    • @twistedyogert
      @twistedyogert Před 3 lety

      @@BAGOTCORNER I thought that it would've been more reliable, no batteries to go dead or risk of magneto failures. But I can see how the crystal repeatedly being struck could cause a failure.

    • @BAGOTCORNER
      @BAGOTCORNER  Před 3 lety +1

      twistedyogert that’s exactly the issue .
      The constant force on the crystals .
      Realistically, a battery could be charged for many years and the coil was nothing more than a 10 ohms winding of 24-30 guage wire .
      Very simple design

  • @ttc5000
    @ttc5000 Před 10 měsíci

    I always assumed that they missed because they did not have ignition timing... I did not realize it was a speed control method

    • @BAGOTCORNER
      @BAGOTCORNER  Před 10 měsíci

      Absolutely .
      The ignition timing is the same revolution after revolution , it never changes .
      What does change is compression/ suction

  • @blake102989
    @blake102989 Před 2 lety

    So this is the infamous Ford motor

  • @fatassassin2493
    @fatassassin2493 Před 6 lety +6

    It's the machine from Charlie in the chocolate factory

    • @BAGOTCORNER
      @BAGOTCORNER  Před 6 lety +3

      Fat Assassin lol was there such a machine in the movie ? 😊

  • @MsJinkerson
    @MsJinkerson Před 4 lety +2

    why would they have an engine like that?

    • @BAGOTCORNER
      @BAGOTCORNER  Před 4 lety +2

      Why in this style ? Or what were they used for ?

  • @ronwest7930
    @ronwest7930 Před 6 lety +1

    Sure makes you wonder about how someone thought this all up.

    • @BAGOTCORNER
      @BAGOTCORNER  Před 6 lety

      Ron West very intelligent folk ,,,no doubt !

  • @aaronjohnson718
    @aaronjohnson718 Před 2 lety

    Isn't it strange that just 1 horse power is not appreciated because 1 horse is powerful

    • @BAGOTCORNER
      @BAGOTCORNER  Před 2 lety +1

      Absolutely !
      Look at the 150 case steamer .
      170 hp but over 5000 torque !