What happens when you're released from a Premier League academy? | MOTDx
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- čas přidán 13. 05. 2024
- MOTDx's Michael Timbs visits Hackney Wick FC to see how the semi-pro London club help young footballers like Kyle Lynch after they are released by a Premier League club's academy.
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Big up Bobby Kasanga, changed his life around and helping the younger generation aswell
Good guy!
Big fan of his CZcams, positive role model
I was in the same class as Bobby in Warwick Park school. Good brother and we use to all talk about championship manager, where it all began.
Life is bigger than the streets.
Jeremy Wisten's death has again reiterated how important it is to look after those, who get released prior to going pro. It is incredible to see that the people of the club have set out to support those struggling. Great message and great video.
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That's why academies should always tell players that they have very low chances of being pro instead of building up false hope
i knew Jeremy he went to my school he didn't deal well with getting released and it was obvious he was struggling just know one to help him
@@Samvdawson what do you mean by he was struggling? Was he aggressive in school or something?
@@Samvdawson why didnt you help him or be there
being released is one thing, but to be released after joining an academy from a young age ( 5-7) , which you spent most of your childhood working hard , blood, sweat , and tears just to be handed a pink slip is hurtful.. Not everyone can be a pro but all those years you put in being washed down the drain.. is painful
Ive been through it mate, was at Preston NE Academy from u9's until u16's, got released as I broke my arm {I'm a keeper}. It's a tough reality
Yeah but look at what's at stake, you're literally rolling the dice and the reward is millions and millions of pounds
its even worse for those doing Ballet and gymnastics coz they fight for far fewer spots.
@Willmatecycling no it doesn't, jackpot is purely luck, and to even try to be a pro you need to put insane amounts of effort it. Even then there's no guarantee if you make it or not, but it's not just luck
@@adoptinq9293 wow I’m so lucky that I’m not injury prone at all 🧬
Damn, just making it as a pro is difficult enough. Now imagine trying to reach the levels of a Messi or Ronaldo... 0_o
usually when people make it pro they stop working as hard as they did to make it that’s the difference between messi and ronaldo and other pros the worked even harder when they became pro😳
Messi or Ronaldo??? Just try to imagine how difficult is to reach the levels of John Lundstram or Jack Cork.. Or just to play in Championship it's difficult enough
@@brezasoasisofpeace255 True. Wven playing in League Two means that compared to everybody who tried to make it pro, you’re a good player.
Goes by one thing most players dont have
Consistency
@@KC-cl4ii 🎯
Academies hoovering up 7 year-olds is basically to maximize their chance of finding the next unicorn and bleeding vicarious parents dry.
Good to see that there is an organisation like this💪🏽
I got released from palace aswell in u13’s it’s hard to stay in the academy system and it was a big hit to take but I’m not giving up.
Good positive attitude mate. I would also encourage you to explore secondary talents and skills outside football (including in education or training) as it's always good to have multiple options at any given time. Best wishes
Lots of opportunities to come from that bro Mo Salah was a Chelsea "flop"
@@beno1129 yeah thanks for that man I’m currently doing a coaching course aswell just so I have something to fall back on.
@@Ninjaman8610 yeah man I still believe in myself hopefully it works out🙏🏽
@@Rhobbz laws of attraction brother, send me a shirt when your signed!
I always think players should think of themselves on a global perspective. You don't have to make it in England, you can go and flourish elsewhere. Plenty of clubs out there that would give a trial to a PL academy graduate. Options all over the place, and many roads to one destination.
Think about Australia, USA and Canada. We'd love to get them here and develop. All countries mentioned speak english and are close socially.
It's NOT as easy as that. Why? In Europe, England/U.K. Is one of the few places where a footballer is actually going to get looked after and paid professionally.
UEFA actually published a guideline outlining which countries have a good track record of simply looking after players and most importantly actually getting paid.
Off the top of my head, Greece was defo a country on the list to avoid. In England, if you sign a contract stark g you're going to get X-amount per week, that will be deposited in your bank, guaranteed. But it's the EXACT opposite when you start dealing with a club in some of these E.European countries. Basically, getting involved with them could leave the pro player owed money with a real fight on their hands to get the cash while a PROSPECT would be left high & dry, worst still with NO career.
@@joysboy6588 there are alot of other countries that one cam develope and get paid too, you dnt have to get paid thousands direkty but something to keep you moving youll always get through football, ie: germany, sweden, denmark or the scandnavian countries
This is just like Rising Ballers
How
@@NA-rt5mv Rising Ballers is a platform for top London ballers to go pro that didn't play in an academy
Rising Ballers r kinds overhyped tho they can't even beat Sunday League teams
AJ Smith well most players there has been released from academy or scouted had trials for academy so basically the same thing
@@user-sx1kx2kq4u I would expect them to dominate Sunday League then since most players used to play academy ball
Great to spend time down at Hackney Wick FC! Amazing club
Well done to everyone involved in this wish you all the success as you're doing your communities proud.
Excellent Content, more of these videos please!
Great to see more opportunities for young players 👍 More of this needed!
For anyone that doesn't know Bobby's got a CZcams channel where he talks about gangs, prison and football alot its called "big ego entertainment "
i can't lie it sad being released but i feel like some of these footballers need to realise that like anything else life it's always good to have a back up plan and save for a rainy day...The amount of 'footballers' who I knew from school and college days who seemed to think they didn't need to learn because they would become footballers out of all them I know only 1 is playing for a pro team
Spot on!
Wow but if I keep grinding and do it like Jamie vardy can I make or should I just give it up?
@@jeeksmeme2218 yes
@@jeeksmeme2218 always have a back up plan
Something I don't understand, why don't these kids try going to US Division 1 colleges? Surely if I'm being dropped from a Premier League academy at 18, would think they can land a full scholarship, get a 4 year degree and maybe even go to the MLS draft. But, more importantly you get a degree through football and then see how that goes from there.
Maybe players want money, fame, success etc at an early age? Idk, but going to college in the US does seem like a win win situation, you have a better chance of making it pro there than in europe and you’re more likely to receive a world class education in the US as they have way more prestigious universities than in the UK
You guys or girls should come, it's awesome honestly!
This is a gem of advice. Im going to research it and direct a few people I know down that route! 👌👏
The majority of these kids come from poverty and live in very poor conditions due to their family backgrounds. It's not easy to just pack your bags up and get pay thousands of dollars to move to the US. Scholarships are already so hard to come by for kids in the US, what makes you think an 18-year-old living in a community filled with crime and poor living conditions can just get up and find the money to somehow try to make it somewhere else? Also FYI, US Division 1 college soccer is dominated by middle-class kids who come from a life of many opportunities. The system in place already filters out so many children due to how expensive it is to even play the sport at a semi-pro level. Dont let 1 or 2 instances of people making it this way blind you from the fact that thousands of us kids in similar situations never had the chance to make it.
You have poor Americans in college for American football and basketball. I’m pretty sure poor British kids can do the same
You move to America and play soccer there. Jack Harrison came to America and played high school soccer then went to play college and MLS. Now he's playing in the prem. If things don't work out to the fullest extent, you could at least get into a really nice college in the US by playing soccer.
Are US college soccer teams pro?
Alot of young lads from rough estates don't realise this. They get signed up by Palace, West Ham etc get released at 17 and think it's game over when in reality they could go to the States on an athletic performance scholarship or go abroad to camps and other things and go from there. Even if they became a coach a whole world opens up to them. Good on guys like Kasanga being a role model to young men.
High Stakes is US scholarship pro?
@@sohibou7120 No its like playing for Uni. But a lot of players get drafted from college to play in the MLS.
Sam Kang so college soccer can get you to MLS?
Too little too late for Jeremy Wisten. Got released by Man City's academy then he topped himself. Poor lad.
More than just a came
I think they work them so hard these kids forget there’s more to life than this game
I thought this was about aj tracy
Me too 😆
LOOL
Being dropped from an academy made me lose interest in the sport, I remember grinding my heart out to be in the u15s ( emailing academy coach, recording my games, training everyday and watching tons of video footage from past academy games ) but the i was dropped at 17, im 19 now and havent played any sports for a good year
Wish you the best. God bless you always💜
Same thing happened to a lot if my peers. I know guys that got released at 18 and never played football at any level since. I think they consider non league as too much of a come down from the high level facilities and standards they were used to. I also think a lot of them just feel sickened by the whole experience. They came so close, trained with the first team, shared banter with some first teamers, and then one day it's all over.
This is a profession that leaps out at me. I felt the zeal and the energy brew pulsate through me. I coach Football in Australia, with opportunities far and few .
After viewing your channel, I would transition, relocate to the U.K , if position afforded the move.
To be able to re-energise these stars, which they were initially groomed to be and still are only to become shrouded by the gulf of pessimism that one feels when a gift has been taken away from them and the confusion of vulnerability sets in.
Maybe those with foggy vision saw a jewel in these lads but did not know how to polish its perfection. Can only mean that the jewel is still there and it’s value remains.
I wish I had a contact to post my resume and credentials to a company that would give me such an opportunity?
bless this man
My dream is to become a professional footballer. I’m training and doing work outs and having the right motivation and mind set to get there. I hope everyone who wants to become a professional footballers becomes one
goodluck bro
This literally makes no sense - each club has a maximum of thirty players on the roster. That's 600 premier league and less than 10 000 worldwide. There are literally millions of people trying to become professional footballers. 99% will never make it because there simply aren't enough jobs for the players.
I almost guarantee that you're not going to become a professional footballer. I don't want to burst your dreams but if you think you're going to be in the best 0.1% of players, just look around yourself - are you even in the top ten percent? Prepare your mind to do something else and work on your football as a possible option.
Go get it bro - take the required action towards your goals DAILY, have self awareness e.g be aware & 100% honest to yourself about your strengths & weaknesses as a footballer & as a person - mindset, philosophy, core values & have self discipline - no matter how you feel, focus on the long term gain over short term reward/pleasure. Good luck my guy !!! 🤝
@@joblakelisbon seems like you failed at something buddy & didn’t refocus your energy on to something positive thus you’re projecting your own insecurity’s onto another being. In other words, it’s not your responsibility or right to tell someone they’re not going to make it, it’s their life so just zip it 🤐
@@Shilly eaclty
Younger players should sign for lower end clubs instead of going into Premier League academies. Most of the young players nowadays just sign for a big club academy and get released eventually for not being good enough. If you start at a club in League Two or below you will develop quicker and grow more as a player.
Lower end club = less money, worse facilities, fewer opportunities.
@@ikryytt919 make the most of what you have is the key
@@ikryytt919 2 guys I know play pro football, one plays for a tiny club in London, with a 8k stadium, gets paid more than a average CEO does. at age 22.
Another (my former teaching assistant lol) plays for a Europa league club and gets paid only about 175% of what the other guy gets. There is still HUGE money in "small" football.
It’s better to start in a team in the Premier League, because my friend once played for Arsenal (he got released at 15) then he was playing for QPR in the championship. Clubs in League One for example would easily accept a player who used to play for the Prem academies, so it’s the best way
This is needed !
I WISH I CAN HAVE SAME OPPORTUNITY TO PLAY AFTER DROP OUT BUT I STILL SEE MYSELF AS A PROFESSIONAL AND POTENTIAL FOOTBALL PLAYER AND I KEEP THE SAME ENERGY ALL THE TIME THANKS FOR SHOWING THIS AND ALSO HELPING THOSE WHO COULDN'T GET CHANCE TO THE A TEAM 🌟🌟💯 .ITS VERY TOUGH BUT STILL BELIEVE IN YOURSELF AND IN YOUR DREAMS AS WELL THAT ONE DAY YOU GONNA MAKE IT %💯✊
The reality is that clubs are completely irresponsible in their treatment of young players. There is a 99% failure rate in developing pro players. There are 600 pro premier league players - just think about that for a moment. There are literally thousands of boys in these academies and they are being set up for failure and psychological problems.
The coaches viewpoint here about aggression and a lack of social skills is totally wrong. Pro players do not have better social skills, it's simply a question of Maths. There are too many extremely highly qualified candidates for a tiny number of jobs. The expectation should be that you're probably not going to make it but that you're there to work on your skills and develop your character. Maybe if you do really well you'll become a pro.
totally agree.\
Completely agree. The way it's setup there's so much wrong with it
Joseph you're completely right. Even if you factor in all the professional football leagues in England (the top 4 tiers), that's still only a few thousand player jobs in all. Some of these will also go to footballers from other countries, not just British lads. The chance of top-flight success is so low, but the academies don't market it that way.
If you follow plan A with plan B always in mind, you will never have a chance.
With your mentality just quit right off the bat and don't even try, the way you make it to the top is to be completely psychotic about your pursuit and roll the dice on everything , because guess what that's what your competition is doing, I'm reading these comments and the amount of soft participation trophy Losers shouldn't even have a platform to speak on an issue like this , sports is the ultimate meritocracy, you make it to the top if you got the skills to do so that's it.
Wow Ricky Martin is the West Ham academy manger? Not exactly Livin' La Vida Loca anymore
Some of these players are good but maybe not for the EPL but can look elsewhere like Austria,Switzerland,Belgium etc even in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland if they don’t wanna leave the UK to develop their talent but it seems all of them wanna break into the EPL which has a slimmer chance and I feel like the EPL teams should have links with clubs from the above mentioned to give them players of their league standard
This is probably where the US comes out on top by ensuring young athletes get an education before turning pro, in case the worst happens. Still good to see people are thinking about this though.
There needs to be a proper framework to help support those leaving academies. These young players often dedicate all - to be released is akin to losing your identity with no chance of recourse or support. Clubs have enough resources to do much more!
In Switzerland the footballers do a part-time apprenticeship next to football, just in case they don‘t make it.. and the clubs work with companies to catch them up, let them work for 1-2 years and leave them go (they managed to gain a bit of exp.)
makes you realise how mad stars that had mad success super young like a 16 year old Rooney, or Pele winning world cup at 17. Hopefully one of these man become an Ian Wright type story.
We tease and underestimate footballers like Jack rodwell and Troy deeney. But they would have worked really hard to be playing 20+ premier league games for many years.
Deeny yes, Rodwell no.
Phil Jones , Harry Maguire , Mustafi too
@@ShubhamSinghCZcams mustafi is a world cup and was really good before joining arsenal just because a player is bad in the prem doesnt mean the player is bad overall
Don't forget Andy Robertson and Jamie Vardy too. Robertson was working in M&S at 18 while playing for Queens Park in Scotland. Only turning professional at 20. Vardy was playing non league until he was 24. Now both are considered two of the best players in the league if not among the best in the world.
@@wthwasthat8884 they are really inspiring Mane, Vardy , Kante
and it is important to teach them that a plan b is always necessary and that in the end as much as we love it, it's just a game therefore your value as an individual will never be based on how many goals have you scored or where have you played
My lil bro didn't make it to the final stage at Ado Den Haag in the Netherlands, man that was so hard for him, he was so talented but the pressure was too much for him. It's his favourite club.
What about you?
Big up bobby and the movement
These guys should be reminded of their success, most people don't get anywhere near that level in any sport.
It has to be more difficult the closer you get. Being released between 18 and 21 must be a real challenge as you have gone so far. There are a lot of facets that are needed to make it to a professional contract but you cannot get away from the need for speed. If you ain't quick and sharp then it is very difficult to get noticed. Football is all about speed and acceleration and that has become more and more important as the years go by. There are so many things that can be worked on, but when it comes to speed you cannot put in what god left out.
Good work by these people. Mentoring is so important at this age range.
Respect 🙌🏿
If Hackney gets into the PL and these players play then yh📈📈
2:10 this guy reminds me of Ali G for some reason
From what I’ve learned if u really want to become a footballer nothing should stop you block out all distractions
Alot of youth dont have a back up plan cant always look at sports as a way out getting an education is key doesn't necessarily mean going to school. Learn a trade, learn how to read a stocks and shares graph the list goes on. Majority of players in the U.k that even do make it dont have a basic education thick as a brick wall, even if you make it pro theres still the chance of getting released or career ending injury football is a cut throat business.
Makes me respect players like Socrates, who had a medical degree while also being a part of one of the best Brazilian sides
Big up hackney I used to go here
Where is it I wanna go ??
@@ahmedross1926 North East London
@@ahmedross1926 I live there
👏🏽
Love it
I played academy level and coached young teams in the London and Brazil. What one of the guys said about aggression and attitude is so true. While teenagers the world over have attitude problems, the aggression and need to act tough is really next level in the UK. Not so much in Brazil, because the threat of extreme violence is actually very real. We lose so much talent in England because the boys just don't know how to act, they're immature and insecure, and by the time they realise this it's too late. Other than that, the technical level in Brazil is far, far superior. Kids in the UK don't/can't play enough anymore, coz who's got the money to pay for goals and powerleague at that age.
Hey what do you mean by they are immature and insecure like how
by the way back then when Ronaldo and messi where becoming the best, there weren't really that many kids playing football but now in this era 1.8 million kids are playing football and its very hard to become pro and also hard for me since i play football as well at the age of 16 and only 180 kids out of the 1.8 million become pro and i think to my self everyday if im gonna make it or not and disappoint myself and my family. THE FOOTBALLING INDUSTRY HAVE TO DO MORE.
2:04 "the generation is so agressive". That is so true about current generation of young men
I swear the founder is that roadman who has a yt channel
Big ego entertainment
He isn’t a roadman address him by his occupation
Former roadman* he’s a big man now and provides that as insight to his former life to encourage younger people to go a different route. His name is Bobby Kasanga btw and his CZcams videos are actually full of gems and understanding. He deserves respect he’s earned it
first should consider getting an ncaa scholorship or try trialing in leagues in Asia (thailand, vietnam, USL, CPL), great life experience
When you're released you get a job or get trappy
Real shit. I can tell kyle bangs major F.
@@moneycomesfirst8681 more like works in retail
@@Emi-ur5jh i know a f boy when u see one
@@moneycomesfirst8681 sorry big man stop spamming my mail inboxes with “you won the lottery claim your £1m prize
@@moneycomesfirst8681 same lol
not to sound weird or unsympathetic being released is very hard.....but as from the UK, you can take advantage of the system of (FOOTBALL)soccer in America and commit to a D1 team and play for that school to rediscover yourself and continue from there tbf.....;better than nothing
Still needs to be more done!
The players must have the people skills those skills are just as important as the football skills.
This has to be much more spoken about in English Football. Creating safeguards for those kids who don't make it through the academy process when that's all they know.
It’s hard to gather skills for other jobs when you dedicated 50% of your life to one skill.
Big facts
I can remember when I got released and tried to build myself back up. The talent was there, put the attitude wasn’t. I continue to play at a decent level before I quit. If only I had the right attitude and patience levels. I think I could have been playing in league 1 or championship at the highest. But when your young your selfish and want thinks handed to you.
Am 15 and clubless I don’t know if I will it in Norway.
@@jeeksmeme2218 be patient and work on your game. Your time will come if you work hard and apply yourself right. 👌🏽
@@c4411 what about you aren’t you gonna be successful at something maybe not fotball but something else?
@@jeeksmeme2218 Mate, I am 37 now lol. I had my time in football but didn’t apply myself correctly when had the opportunities to make the grade. I have become very successful in life without football, so it wasn’t my destiny or god’s will 👊🏽
@@c4411 but was it difficult before or is it more now I wish I could play at your time to see what you went thru am happy you are successful.
If stuff like this happens we really need to transition into like the us sport system high school-college-pro
@@bluestorm9977 oh my god every single part of this comment is soo wrong
In The US you can’t just pay to play for a school no. You have to have skills to be noticed by the schools and then if you’re good enough they’ll offer you to play for them
But first you have to play in high school
The US sport system wont be effective in an area where 16 or 17 year olds are already turning pro. (17 year old Pele for Brazil at 1958 WC, 18 year old Ansu Fati who plays for Barcelona and Spain, 16 year old Yousouffa Moukoko for Bundesliga's Borussia Dortmund) The US wont let you turn pro until you're at least 18 no matter how skilled or creative you are.
If you're released by an academy, then that's it.
@@bluestorm9977 well you can be in an Academy and get on the first team like Caden Clark, or you can play for your local club, where you can go to college, do your career aswell as playing soccer, and enlist in the Superdraft. If you don't get drafted you can enter it again the following year, or you can sign with a smaller club to eventually get a move to a smaller side in Europe. So there are plenty of other alternatives to academies, just that pro academies are the way to go.
I would advise anyone who got released in UK go abroad instead of giving up to somewhere like Thailand try for a team there then who knows could progress on again somewhere like South Korea or Japan.
ISL is always open to welcome y'all
dunno if it's a standard British dialect but Bobby sounds like Stormzy to me
People call some pros thrash but they fail to realize how many people missed out which means those pros really had to try. Now imagine the ones leaving their countries, play one or two seasons for one club then get shipped to another country and then you factor the ones with families, their families too have to suffer.
I'm humbled by Steve Irungu Jermaine
Aj traceys long lost brother
getting released earlier is better then getting released at 16-21 tbh
Now there’s an academy for drooped players founded by Yakubu in Cyprus. They have scouts from all over the world there and they take care of their players in everything! Anybody who can should check it out..
When academy players receive Pro Contracts after School do all players in that Squad get contracts or are there ALWAYS some players that don’t get contracts in that Squad
Is he related to THE F2 SWAZ TEKKA BEST BALL PLAYING PLAYA AT THE ARSENAL , MR JEREMY " GOT MILLIONS AND AND AN AUDI" LYNCH!?
Big up bobby
If you get released by a massive club like man city or United just come to the USA and try to get a college scholarship playing football here. It’s way less competitive and you’d probably make it even in the mls because of it.
Anyone think that was aj Tracey?
These guys should apply for NCAA soccer scholarships in America, get a college degree and maybe you still make it pro but at least you can get a decent job as a backup plan
You go to semi-pro, you’re done.
You have to go get a job like everyone else, if you have the right attitude and you don't make it you will find something but if you gave it the bigun "I'm going to have money , I don't need to listen to you type" then they will struggle.
People in academy should never drop out of education
Even if u get a bad garde and focus on football
At the end you can either get a job if u got a good grade or just redo it
Well never know you can get released from an academy. Well I am from the US.
didtnt know there was a semi-pro league!!!! is there also amateur league as well????
Question is can players without any Tier 5 + Experience get into this league? Cause what if a great player aged 24/25 wants to play but can't because he just made his mind up that he wants to play pro football?...
football is harsh and unforgiving
Hackney marshes is my STRIP
Is it just me or does Kyle Lynch look like Lewis Hamilton?
Lol theres a legitimate English Ricky Martin 🤣🤣🤣🤣
some of the players I see in the premier league are questionable tbh. They shouldn't even be touching league one sides
They can be successful just play at the park or on a week end Team in a lower league any one can play football this is just stupidity of Western society
I don't think you know what you're talking about
Lol i knkw this guy. Ex convicg owning his own semi pro team what a guy
That's why France academy system is better than any other academy system
Why? What do the French do?
They do school altogether?
What language are they speaking?
That my brother Kyle lynch
This is just taking the piss out of them
smh, my mom should have emigrated now I have an accounting degree I have no use for,, could've been bench warming for Harrogate Town for 10 bags a week kmt.
Pretty easy, get an education, and get a good job. playtime is over boys.
Maybe don't have kids drop out of school as young as 9 years old...
no one mentions education. not surprised.
Why was he let go?
People make football is like something big and impossible. lol
Sounds nice... Till they charge $500 a training session
what about EDUCATION??
do academies have actual scholastic programs ....
are kids giving up school to be at an academy?
I personally wonder how England has football players. As a Nigerian who migrated to England few years ago and been around football pitches , training and all that it really baffles me how footballers are scouted here. They are extremely lazy, dont wana jog, dont wana tackle , just pure laziness .
After football academy, they have a normal 9 to 5 job like everyone else.