Two of Britain’s toughest bare knuckle fighting men are involved in this fascinating tale of stockings Gorman and henry Francis a must watch tale of the truth behind these fights never told before
Nice one Joe. It’s always good to listen to a story with Jimmy in it. He’s got to be one of the most honest people around. Never hesitates & says it exactly like it is, good or bad 👍🏽 It was a privilege to meet the two of you together a few weeks ago. Keep them coming Joe 🥇🥊
I think the fact that Henry Francis wouldn't fight him sober the morning after or any time after answers the question that Francis wasn't confident he would win
Jimmy used to visit my uncle Alfie in coxheath Maidstone also another very tough man who come by was a man called teddy Adam’s did you ever come across him
@@cushtytv1006 from the stories I’ve been told both jimmy and teddy very tough men but also very humble decent men my uncle Alfie smith never had much time for people but was very close with them both spoke very highly of them
To be fair i thought he was born in the 50s, so your absolutely right on his age difference, but Henry did fight both Bartley and bootsey that night and won, also in the jimmy stockings fight there was refs there during the fight and Henry was on his own, Jimmy's tooth had to be pulled out Henry's left hand at the hospital. which caused a very bad infection in his hand, worth noting that Henry was good with both his hands and head, would often use either, but won many fight with just his hands.
1) The funeral youre talking about was Bartleys brother and A fight (not the one you claim) began because papers had printed Bartley as saying hed beat any McGinley or Rooney man alive. He was pulled on this by Dan Rooneys brother John and an argument about who would win between BG and Aney broke out. Bartley was walking to the bar walked back and said to Ned McGinley fuck it I woupd knock Aney and Dan clean out not realising Neds brother John Rooney was getting off his chair and smashed him in side of the mouth. 2 of the best men in Uk and Ireland Bartley and John fought for over 20 minutes for "the title" and John broke Bartleys face up with a Saddle ring but he ended up giving best after a barnburner of a fight. They scheduled a fight for the coming days were both would be sober and Bartley wouldnt have one quiet friend with him he'd have his cousins the Fury's including the man Bartley believed was the best traveller man Big John Fury, Tysons father. Henry Francis was from another era he was around 27 when Bartley was far older and the only part og your story thats correct is Henry once did challenge Bartley but the fight never took place as there was a significant age gap and Bartley died shortly after. As for Henry Francis vs Dan Rooney or Aney McGinley etc i couldnt tell you but knowing all 3 men i would have bet my house on Dan finishing him in 8 minutes and Aney either beating him or theyd fight to a draw. I cannot name one GREAT man Henry fought but i do know 2 challenges he refused and there wasnt decades between them like him and Bartley the two guys he refused were no more than 5 year younger. 1 was a great Sweeney man from Ireland and one was 1 was a certain Mr Charles Salvador or you may kniw him by Charlie Bronson. All fact and the proof from the mens mouths are there to make it fact
I’ve watched a few videos that all mentioned Henry, and it sounds like he was a bit of a coward & bully! Picking his time to attack drunk old men and kids.
Got told Jimmy called for Henry 3 times after and he never batted a eye lid. Hard man but more when takin liberty's with drunk men dick Smith beat Henry and so did oathie price facts
@cushtytv1006 he died a few years before bartley fought henry bartley had Sam's suit on that he gave him on his death bed you are right about him saying sam didn't like him he said it to bartley years before when henry cam on to a site sam was on asking for water
Known henry francis 30 years he lives in pinxton Nottinghamshire. He's no bare knuckle fighter always picks his fights usually when he has back up. He's been beat and knocked out many times .most of the fights are just made up stories and lies.
Gorman or stockings would of beat him no doubt in my mind a different class francis watched and timed chance to catch them out drunk to get a name for self he's not and shouldn't be mentioned at all
Glad you put the record straight joe one of the few people who tell the truth on these podcasts👍
Thanks mate 🤙🥊
Nice one Joe. It’s always good to listen to a story with Jimmy in it. He’s got to be one of the most honest people around. Never hesitates & says it exactly like it is, good or bad 👍🏽
It was a privilege to meet the two of you together a few weeks ago. Keep them coming Joe 🥇🥊
Thanks mate nice to see you to
I first read jimmys book. Then yours. I hope to see u both one day & ask you both to sign them. A pair of legends ❤
Yes mate all my pleasure🤙
Great to see the channel flying pal
Great blog Joe, the wife enjoyed hearing about her cousin Jimmy Stockings.
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Interesting history. Keep up the good journalism.
Thank you
Great vlog Joe really enjoyed that one 👍
🤙🥊 thanks
Brilliant upload 👏
Thanks mark
Great video pal,.
And your a gentleman,👍🏼
Kind words sir thanks 😀🤙🥊
Theres me still hungover 2 days after the sesh can't fight sleep lol
I know that feeling theses days 😀😀🤙
Nice content as usual Joe!!
Thanks Ben
I think the fact that Henry Francis wouldn't fight him sober the morning after or any time after answers the question that Francis wasn't confident he would win
seen a few better men get liquored gut softened up by sober 👊🏼
My grandads brother is in that book king of the gypsys Johnny winters 👊
Jimmy used to visit my uncle Alfie in coxheath Maidstone also another very tough man who come by was a man called teddy Adam’s did you ever come across him
Yes Danny I knew young ted and uncle ted ..🤙
@@cushtytv1006 from the stories I’ve been told both jimmy and teddy very tough men but also very humble decent men my uncle Alfie smith never had much time for people but was very close with them both spoke very highly of them
@@dannysmith4102 old ted lived on cox lane Chessington a proper old boy bought my first chordy trailer off him
From the stories been told they was good people they was before my time but listening to old stories I find builds a picture clear as day
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Henry cud av a go but couldn't of tied Bartley's laces in his prime 💯🙏❤️
Depends on whether it's a square go or a dirty go? That's the rules down the lanes .
Hang on, Henry 62 and Jimmy is 64.? Also Bartley is only 10 years Henry's senior, and was still fighting big names at the time in around 1996.
Craig Bartley was born in 1944 .. which makes him 80 .. 18 years he’s senior That’s what I said 18 to. 20 years … his that fair in your opinion ??
To be fair i thought he was born in the 50s, so your absolutely right on his age difference, but Henry did fight both Bartley and bootsey that night and won, also in the jimmy stockings fight there was refs there during the fight and Henry was on his own, Jimmy's tooth had to be pulled out Henry's left hand at the hospital. which caused a very bad infection in his hand, worth noting that Henry was good with both his hands and head, would often use either, but won many fight with just his hands.
Mate trust me that’s bullshit lies I’ve known Jimmy al my life and he still as all he’s own perfectly good teeth was that written somewhere ..
Do a take on stockins v Kenny Sykes brother
GREAT AS USUAL JOE MATE
1) The funeral youre talking about was Bartleys brother and A fight (not the one you claim) began because papers had printed Bartley as saying hed beat any McGinley or Rooney man alive. He was pulled on this by Dan Rooneys brother John and an argument about who would win between BG and Aney broke out. Bartley was walking to the bar walked back and said to Ned McGinley fuck it I woupd knock Aney and Dan clean out not realising Neds brother John Rooney was getting off his chair and smashed him in side of the mouth. 2 of the best men in Uk and Ireland Bartley and John fought for over 20 minutes for "the title" and John broke Bartleys face up with a Saddle ring but he ended up giving best after a barnburner of a fight. They scheduled a fight for the coming days were both would be sober and Bartley wouldnt have one quiet friend with him he'd have his cousins the Fury's including the man Bartley believed was the best traveller man Big John Fury, Tysons father.
Henry Francis was from another era he was around 27 when Bartley was far older and the only part og your story thats correct is Henry once did challenge Bartley but the fight never took place as there was a significant age gap and Bartley died shortly after.
As for Henry Francis vs Dan Rooney or Aney McGinley etc i couldnt tell you but knowing all 3 men i would have bet my house on Dan finishing him in 8 minutes and Aney either beating him or theyd fight to a draw. I cannot name one GREAT man Henry fought but i do know 2 challenges he refused and there wasnt decades between them like him and Bartley the two guys he refused were no more than 5 year younger. 1 was a great Sweeney man from Ireland and one was 1 was a certain Mr Charles Salvador or you may kniw him by Charlie Bronson.
All fact and the proof from the mens mouths are there to make it fact
What shit U talking mush. Even bartley Sais in he's book he had a fight with Henry Francis in a pub car park leave of looool
I’ve watched a few videos that all mentioned Henry, and it sounds like he was a bit of a coward & bully!
Picking his time to attack drunk old men and kids.
Good man joe
Got told Jimmy called for Henry 3 times after and he never batted a eye lid. Hard man but more when takin liberty's with drunk men dick Smith beat Henry and so did oathie price facts
Yes 3 times mate
Im sure it wasn't sam telling bartley that he doesnt like henry i think sam had died before bartley had a fight with henry
It was told from bartleys book it was Sam maybe there’s been an error .. what year did Sam die beaver ??
@cushtytv1006 he died a few years before bartley fought henry bartley had Sam's suit on that he gave him on his death bed you are right about him saying sam didn't like him he said it to bartley years before when henry cam on to a site sam was on asking for water
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Thanks beaver for info sorry I got it wrong well spotted all the same
Known henry francis 30 years he lives in pinxton Nottinghamshire. He's no bare knuckle fighter always picks his fights usually when he has back up. He's been beat and knocked out many times .most of the fights are just made up stories and lies.
Interesting didn’t know that
Gorman or stockings would of beat him no doubt in my mind a different class francis watched and timed chance to catch them out drunk to get a name for self he's not and shouldn't be mentioned at all
Jimmy would beat him many men try both ways they didn't win when sober
True Wendy
That’s a pretty nasty punch you’ve got there.
I can’t comment as I’ve not felt it mark 😀🤙🥊
Well I don’t think I’d want to
Good man Henry Francis but he was a brawler not a bareknuckle man he would struggle with a man who could fight standing back and boxing
Is that so a friend sparred him once and didn’t find it difficult .. but that s sparring I guess
To be fair I don’t like the look of him either
Strange that but true I guess
@@cushtytv1006 probably how he ended up being a fighter. Everywhere he went people immediately wanted to set about him 😂
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The outlaw is a Newark on Trent man. 👊🏽
Yes so I’m told