DIY Shed Electrical Rough In & Wiring
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- čas přidán 3. 03. 2023
- In this video I go through the steps involved in electrical rough in of my shed. I install electrical boxes, drill holes and run wire for my outlets and heater, and then provide an overview of the finished wired outlets and subpanel. Upcoming videos will include an overview of my high bay LED lights, and then followed up with some exterior work as I move towards getting my shop sided. Please feel free to leave a comment or question, and like and subscribe to the channel.
Disclaimer: It is not stated in the video but I am not a certified electrician. Before attempting something like this make sure you have turned off the power to the location your working in. Switch off the breaker, and test the line with a tester prior to proceeding.
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Music - tunetank.com/track/2293-inspi...
Materials & Tools I used in this video:
1. 10 Gauge Romex Wire - www.lowes.ca/product/non-meta...
2. 12 Gauge Romex Wire - www.homedepot.ca/product/sout...
3. 14 Gauge Romex Wire - www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/so...
4. Electrical Box - www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/hu...
5. IRWIN Speedbor Bits - www.amazon.ca/dp/B08GHGKSGF?p...
6. 20 Amp Outlet - www.amazon.ca/dp/B013OVCE7S?p...
7. 15 Amp Outlet - www.amazon.ca/dp/B013OVC9K0?p...
8. Light Switch - www.amazon.ca/dp/B00E7N71V2?p...
9. Dewalt Drill - www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B01D...
10. Cable Staples - www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/ga... - Jak na to + styl
When you have vapor or gasket boxes I would recommend them being the ones you nail on since there cheaper and easier to work with. Cutting the vapor barrier on the outlet boxes always leeway for water to possible get into the outlet boxes. 15:24 when you have slack just make a small coil and staple it to the wall for in the future you have slack for readjusting or moving the wires. I’m honestly impressed on the cable management in the panel and where the switches and outlets are great job.
Thank you for the kind words, and that tip. I think when I get to insulation I will take some tuck tape and maybe try to seal up some of those cuts I made. Hopefully that helps a bit. I spent alot of time on the electrical, but I am happy with how it turned out. It still needs to be wired into the main house panel, but all in due time. Thanks again!
I enjoyed watching your video! Thanks for making it.
Thank you very much! Thanks for watching!
Very neat work, and good quality material.
Thank you!
The music. Oh my!
That is some nice neat and clean work
Thank you, I spent alot of time on it.
Fine job. I'm no electrician but this was a great watch. 👍🏽🤠 12/9/23
Thank you very much! Glad you enjoyed it.
Beautiful job. Nailer everywhere. I love it man!
Thank you for the kind words! Thanks for watching!
It's funny how when you're the one making these noises with tools etc, it's ok... but when someone else is making them it drives you nuts.
At least that's how I am
Every loud squeak of the drill makes my hair stand on end 😂
Now that you mention it I am the same way to. Thanks for watching.
Use a 6 to 8 inch extension for your driver to get your drill out of the way when mounting the boxes.
Thanks for the tip!
Other than the placement of your doors and windows my new workshop is almost identical in shape. I'm doing exactly what you did here this weekend including a high mount heater! Great to know I am on the right track. Video is great, straightforward and basic, nothing extra which is often information overload. Can I ask how you ran power to the shed? Perhaps there is another video I have not seen? If not, I have to connect to the main panel in the cabin and run underground, most likely through a conduit at at least 12inches down. Any suggestions? Looking forward to more videos.
Thank you for the kind words E B. It's nice to the videos are providing the basic information. I probably won't get my heater up for awhile but it'll be nice next winter. As for your question I might actually do a video here shortly. I just got power hooked up. There is a line from the main house panel which is 200 amp I believe to a junction box on the side of the house. A line runs from there underground and into the shop to a 50amp sub panel. I will do a video with a power update shortly.
Also make sure to follow your local code. Here where I am the line underground had to be buried at a certain depth. Then I had to put approx 16 inches of material on top and then lay this red tape which says "buried electrical line" on top, and then continue to backfill from there.
Good job on your electrical bro hey I got a question for you where did you get that box at and where did you get your boxes with those insulation covers on it can you send us a link or something I like to get me some for my shed I really appreciate you brother keep up the good work thank you
Thank you so much! The subpanel the electrician brought, but it is a Schneider loadcentre qo mlo 240v 100amp panel. The boxes I got at Canadian Tire in Canada. The insulation covers or vapor barriers from Home Depot. I'll send you some links shortly. Thanks again!
Great work nice and clean what size sub panel did u instal and wire size? Planinng on doing this on my detached shed
Thank you very much! The sub panel is rated for 50 amps, but from the main house panel its on a 40 amp breaker. I just posted a video that describes the hook up from the main panel, and goes over the wire size. It's a few different wires running between junction boxes, 10/3 nmd90, 8/3 Tek Cable, and 8/3 nmd90. Good luck on your shed!
Since you said you are not real experienced in electrical and that your “electrician” helped with the feeder, I thought you might like to know some deficiencies. Trust that I am not picking on you, just informing you for your safety.
1. Your feeder looks to be 6/3 WG NM cable. In your other comment, you said it is installed in conduit from a junction box to the shed. Assuming it is pvc underground, anything below grade, including in pvc, is a wet location. NM cable Article 334.12(B)(4) Uses Not Permitted, In wet or damp locations.
2. Since this is a structure with power supplied from another structure by a feeder, then Article 225 Part II. 225.31 required that a disconnecting means be provided that disconnects all ungrounded supply conductors. That means that either your feeder terminates into a MCB panel(not MLO as you have) or a safety switch, or an enclosed circuit breaker.
3. Article 250.32(A). Requires that buildings supplied by a feeder have a grounding electrode conductor and electrode installed. Most use ground rods as the electrode. If you do, unless you can test for 25 ohms or less resistance, two rods are required.
4. I couldn’t tell but make sure you do not install a bonding jumper in the panel.
If your electrician suggested you use NM cable in pvc, below grade, you might think about finding another one.
Safety, Always be safe, the life you save may be your own.
Respectfully, Kevin
Hi Kevin, thanks for all the information. It is much appreciated. I am going to do a follow up video I think to show the entire electrical hook up. If your referring to the feeder shown below the panel, it literally terminates immediately outside the shed in a junction box. From that box there is a heavier wire meant for being buried which runs the 20 or so feet to another panel on the outside of the house. It goes inside the house there.
Thanks for the info. My electrician is experienced and even told me an inspector may come to see it. I feel like he wouldn't do anything wrong if he thought an inspector would come. Anyways the info is very much appreciated. I'll provide an update at some point. Thanks for watching.
@@northernoutlier if I remember correctly, you have NM cable running under your deck in pvc conduit. Even though it is glued, it is still considered a damp location. NM cable is not allowed in wet or damp locations. Best wishes! Kevin
@@KevinCoop1 Hi Kevin. I will have to do an update video to show how it is hooked up. The cable that goes from the outside of the house underground, and goes into the shed is metallic sheathed cable. I've been meaning to make this video but filming other projects currently. Thanks for watching. Matt
You’re a rare breed in the comment sections . Citing code and trying to be helpful instead regurgitating something you heard and tearing him down.
Starting a very similar job soon... Curious why she you ran the 14 wire up to the first light, why did you come back down across and back up to 2nd instead of just going across through ceiling/roof rafters to 2nd light?
Great question. Somewhere I had read when I was doing this, that you should not drill through the rafters for wiring. I think someone had said avoid this on rafters or floor joists. So I chose to go down and across and back up to the second to avoid this. Anyways it shouldn't be an issue, but if you do it keep the hole smaller (3/4 of an inch to an inch) and in the center. Thanks for watching.
What size feeder are you running from your main panel to your subpanel?
I'm not entirely sure. I let the electrician do all that work. I will take a look, and will include that in another video. I am planning on doing an electrical update. I can say that there is a line running from the main panel to a junction box on the outside of the house, and from there a cable goes underground to the shed.
I connected three sheds together as a tiny house. Electric and interior walls are in, but need to install baseboard heaters in each room now. How do i do this with walls already in???😢
So you have completed walls I am assuming? Insulated and sheeted? That is a good question. At that point you wouldnt be able to run wires through walls. You could run an armoroured cable maybe, or you might find baseboards with plugs possibly. I believe I've seen those before. That's if you have plugs available. Or use a space heater. Thanks for watching!
Hey man, that's a great job, you ran those wires neatly. My question is: I have just bought a 10x12 shed from Tuff shed, Can I just install myself the electrical (5 outlets and lighting)? I have the background in electrical. I understand that I have to get a license electrician to run the power from the main house to the shed. Thanks and more power to your channel.
Thank you! I spent alot of time doing it and tried to make it as neat as possible. I would say it depends on where you live and what the code is or if you require an inspection. I live in a rural unorganized area and there are not alot of requirements. I did all the outlets, and subpanel myself but when my electrician comes to wire it into the main house panel he is going to look things over to make sure all of this is good. I hope that helps and thanks for watching!
@@northernoutlier Thanks for your reply. I will check what's the building code here in Nevada.
It's your house. Do what you want. Hire a good electrician as a consultant. He'll check up on your progress and give you tips on how to do things and how to fix your mistakes.
It's your house. It's your property. Do what you want. Pay a professional to consult and guide you. As long as he's not doing the actual work. If he is he's breaking the law if he's not a licensed electrical contractor.
what sub panel did you use ?
It is a Schneider load center. Model HOM612L100SCP.
Does a shed require GFCI protection?
It depends on your area and what the code is. Always check the code but around me I am pretty sure garages and out buildings require GFCI protection. I went with all GFCI protected just to be safe.
@@northernoutlier Great Vid. But you could have saved your self a few bucks. Only One is GFCI outlet is needed on the same loop.
@@Royg89 Yeah I had thought of doing this and my electrician said it would be best to make them all GFCI's. Having not done this before I just went all GFCI.
@@Royg89 Definitely alot cheaper for regular outlets though. Wow, what a price difference.
@@northernoutlier like $2 versus $20 each!
You don't have the wires stapled within 6 inches from the boxes
I'm a State Licensed Journeyman Electrician / Sub Contractor with over 55 years in the trade , mostly residential and some commercial and I have never used those plastic vapor boxes ! I think they look ridiculous and and are a big waste of money ! They serve no practical purpose at all !!!
Thanks for the tip, I figured as much but thought I'd try them anyways.
That is some great neat work
US installations are like from the 1930s
we wanted to see whenever you wired to the panel box. Not when you're drilling and running wire.
Thanks for mentioning that. I figured as much. I try to just film whatever I am doing as part of a project. Thanks for watching.
Kinda late to the party…
There is something… A good news, bad news.
Bad news- As poster Kevin mentioned, you seem to be missing the necessary separate equipment grounding conductor. I see the ground from feeders, and the four grounds from your branch circuits, but no redundant ground wire. A separate structure 220v subpanel must have the four wire feeder PLUS a separate, redundant ground wire connected to grounding electrodes (does not have to be separate ground rods- if the ground rods/grid for the main panel is sufficiently close you can use those).
The good news- it is an easy fix.
Thank you for the information and thanks for watching! I will have to discuss with my electrician.
That's not a shed that's a small garage😎
Vapor barrier box?????? Who was born yesterday? I am not sure how much those cost but they just robbed you. When installing a barrier on an outer wall, first you put in the insulation.
2nd you run your wirer to where you expect to put boxes,
3rd you install the vapor barrier, leaving slack in the areas where boxes are going.
5th you cut little slits to pull wire thru, and then use packing tape to seal the barrier with the wire out.
Lastly install the boxes and wire them.
Works better, less expensive, and you have a better seal.
I don't even know if they were $1 and I figured after installing the boxes that they were a bit of a joke. Having to cut slits for the wires to run through and into the box. Thanks for the information. Question though, would it not be easier to install the insulation after all the wiring? Thanks for watching!
@@northernoutlier true about the insulation. My main goal was to help you vap barrier where you dont have to by that thing, which you had to modify to use it and actually ruining the reason for a vap barrier