David Mitchell's manifesto for Britain - BBC Newsnight
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- Comedian David Mitchell tells Newsnight he has come to the "dispiriting conclusion" the Internet is a disaster.
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The comedian, actor and writer, who originally made his name with the BAFTA winning Peep Show, spoke to Katie Razzall about the publication of his new book, 'Dishonesty is the Second Best Policy'.
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I would definitely vote for David Mitchell to be a wizard.
jUST WHEN WE NEED A WIZARD he wont do the job is very selfish
He's the kind of wizard I'd love to have a pint of mead with.
jack 187 I have no idea where you get that he’s a LibDem - he deliberately says he doesn’t support any party. If he was a LibDem, why wouldn’t he endorse them?
@Swag Man Because the Torries have trashed the future of the UK, just as the Republicans have damaged the future of the USA etc. all in the name of greed for Russian money.
Take your 'their all marxists' lies Swag Man and go play in Putin's Paradise. We all know you're a Russian asset.... another troll account.
Oh anyone that doesn't believe that Swag Man is a Russian Troll Account go look at his non-existent profile here on CZcams. Its a recently created account just to post a few trolls and scram out.
"The truth is just a bit of hay, like the others, not even a needle" brilliant metaphor.
exactly what a meta is phor
Not really
Access to more information not only including but especially true information has never been more accessible for rapid desemination than ever thanks to the internet
Truth had always been relative and chaotic throuout history. The internet sped the cycle up but its not new.
Politicians can lie more often? Yeah of course because they can talk.more often too. Its obvious.
With the internet, those in power realized they couldn't hide the truth easily anymore.
They could control the newspaper and TV stations but not the entire internet, yet.
China has been trying while other global politicians can adding censorship to their local streams of the internet now.
Right now, misinformation overload is the most popular form to hide the truth since many things are so subjective and nuance but people want easy answers.
Certainly allowed us to scrutinise things more, things that were generally accepted as truth such as the moon landings etc
"Hopefully we'll all cheer up after Christmas"
In walks coronavirus
"I think things are getting worse".... He got that right *slow clap*
@Tom Mccarthy Is it like Mad Max yet? I don't get out much.
Comedy is all about timing.
We’ll all be home by Christmas !
The best person to run a country is the man who doesn't want to do it
Woman.
@@andrewgrant6516 Well done you
Marcus Aurelius
You are in good company - Ovid said leave it to the poets they would do nothing
I always thought that. That's why sometimes I wonder if giving the monarchy actual power rather than symbolic power may be not such a bad idea... please don't attack me in the comments, it's just an idea
“Are we the baddies?”
My favourite : "So your idea of opulence is a toilet under the stairs"
Yes, yes we are. Dianne.
It turns out they were the goodies all along.
So the ones inciting the hunt for Bill Oddie were in fact the goodies? That's an interesting turn of events.
David Reynolds may the light of vectron guide you...
David as PM:
"Good evening and remain indoors!"
That's numberwang!
Not at all. Everyone walk 5-10 km a day, no smartphone, and things will get better. Among other stuff, We‘ll see how fucked up public spaces already are.
Happy numberwang
Keep calm and put a plastic bag over your head.
@Red Pilled Fox don't tell me, you think the Earth is flat as well?
His manifesto is actually brilliant. Those 3 things really would fix loads of problems.
Well done, for a declining organism.
I love him as a comedian and he’s spot on here. I’m American and it’s funny how similar many countries are when you discuss their political ineptitude. Different configuration same outcome. Poor representation, lobbyists running politicians, money over environment (aka our future). Love this gentleman.
I've just read an article that says that Wisconsin is no better than the Congo on certain political metrics.
And yet he buys the propaganda about Corbyn being "antisemitic". Mitchell is a hack about politics and he should stop talking about things he knows nothing about.
"How old are you?"
"I'm a declining organism."
"Mid-40s then."
Oh so bright
Erm...this seems to be supporting the idea that everything decays and degenerates over time which rather flies in the face of his belief in evolution...?
@@tonystubbs8855 ..what? What does the fact that any individual biological organism or matter in general decays/deteriorates over time have at all to do with the fact of evolution, which describes the adaptation of organisms (as in species) to their environment over vast amounts of time over the course of several generations through the process of natural selection?
@@asum7786 yes. One suggests improvement over time the other deterioration...take a look at your body. 😁
@@tonystubbs8855 And yet they bear no relation to each other. That an individual organism deteriorates over time has nothing to do with a species passing down beneficial Traits for their given environment over hundreds of thousands of years. One imagines the concepts of "what works in an environment lives long enough to mate and reproduce passing those Traits on and what doesn't work well dies out" being fairly common sense. I don't quite grasp how you think that stands in conflict with an individual slowly deteriorating after mating age.
"I would very much swap his wit for just a jot of integrity"
I would swap his wife for mine.
He even betrayed the hard Brexiteers. He'll betray anyone if it benefits him
He's a career politician. What do you expect ?
@@theinnerparty5295 better listening skills.
@@theinnerparty5295 Career politician doesn't equal absolute scumbag.
The fact that David Mitchell is so hilarious, in terms of his responses, often obscures how correct he is!
David Mitchell isn’t gloomy, he’s a facts-based pessimist.
Like Peter Hitchens.
bravo
But he's been in middle age since his teens.
Actually since his sixth birthday.
@M H do you mean "is he a human?"
He's also been in the Middle Ages since he was a teen
I have not met David Mitchel but think I would like him and respect I his intelligence. He has his opinions and is entitled to express these and expect them to be considered if not agreed with. I do not like the current trend in our society to resort to subjectivity rather than objectivity.
wow, what a well thought out comment. Perhaps I should move there?
David Mitchell’s outfit is so unnoteworthy that it’s noteworthy
Almost like a grey tie.
Is that from a WILTY? I have no idea how I know that reference lol
@@crazyrobots6565 czcams.com/video/4WU5fT7Q9uw/video.html
Wilty is one of the greatest shows ever produced , with the perfect sparring partners . I’ve watched so many funny moments on there . Bob Mortimer always tells a cracking story . A snipers dream is one that comes to mind straight away . And chris rhea and the egg . Dentistry at home .
@@Actingskint Bob Mortimer is absolutely the best guest on WILTY. He has a way of telling stories that just really gets me. He was really funny on Taskmaster too. I wish I knew where I could see more of him.
Of all the smart things he had to say you focus on his clothing?
That's why we're fucked.
"I would swap his wit for just a jot of integrity" 😂😂
"Having brought out a book in which I'm comprehensively proved wrong is a price I'm willing to pay for our society to stop falling to bits". Actually caring more about the greater good than your image, your popularity, being right... INTEGRITY.
"I'm part of the problem, not part of the solution." ... self-analysis that honest is what politics needs.
I really wish people like Jeremy Corbyn, Dianne Abbott, Anna Sour-dry and Jess Phillips were capable of taking a long hard look at themselves. Not gonna happen though.
Typical that you picked the most exploitable and irrelevant part, and others too... So fucking typical and braindead.
@@sirrathersplendid4825 Except that if Jeremy Corbyn said "I'm not perfect and x y z is wrong with me" he'd be splashed on the cover of the Sun tomorrow with a dustbin lid on his head or a tinfoil hat. Public self-reflection does not work in politics. I get that the labour party are not perfect INDIVIDUALS, but their policies are going in the right direction and maybe we should focus on that rather than treating them like contestants on a reality TV show.
@Greig91 Voting for the lesser evil is the only solution. That's democracy (and life in general) in a nutshell.
@Greig91 "voting for the lesser evil is not a solution"
What's the alternative?
Only David Mitchell would say "I'm a declining organism" in a relatively casual conversation.
"And that's why my manifesto, will never be put into action". I love David Mitchell
I hope we can all cheer up after Christmas 2019. Innocent days.
Hope is the key word. Not innocent or untrusting. Hope is not a plan.
His manifesto? The Big Beat Manifesto.
"Big Beats are the best. Get high all the time." Have you read it lately?
This is an undervalued comment
No, that’s Matt King’s.
David: This is Big Talk! Now lets sort this out!
I came here to say Meat Beat Manifesto.
No David, do not worry. I'm in my early 20s and I've also lost my optimism regarding the UK.
Same here. The time between me reaching voting age and losing hope is depressingly short
@gary jones such a peep show answer
I'm also early 20s and the only comfort I have is.. at least we're not America.. but then again we seem to be in second place in terms of... just dumb shit and lies
thelolmaster1997 Australia could give you a run for your money.....but no, I think you are vying for 1st with the USA.
@@robsengahay5614 I do often see some hope for the US though, at least sometimes. The British system offers no such respite in the next election.
Brilliant. I'm voting for him whether he likes it or not.
The internet has shown the true colour of humans - and it's not a nice colour.
I disagree it does display a “truth” about us. It, like any context we can be in, colors and skews our behavior. I dont think its any more true than how we behave when showing love to friends or family. The problem to me is how so many of these systems push us around and the way its scored. Likes and upvotes and more and more extreme opinions. Its just a terrible way to usher human beings around. Change the context and behavior can shift along with it.
Nothing and I mean nothing is more truthful than what you gave just said, so, I have decided to write down your comment, with the help of a pen and paper, 10000 times.😅
It shows more color of people that have more time on their hands. People that actually work aren't heard as much because they can't say as much because they're actually doing something with their lives than bitch about things on the internet. Now there's a whole generation that don't want to work at all. They want to be Twitch streamers or blog writers. That's not labor. That doesn't keep the lights on or the people fed or whatever. Yet at the same time these people that rant professionally on the internet for a living are the ones telling us who to vote for, what to think, what we're allowed to know and not know. People aren't as racist, toxic, horrible, extreme, or polarized as the internet makes them out to be. Most people just want to enjoy a normal life with the people they care about and couldn't care less about what skin color or whatever because they're too busy to care. Most people are fine. But we're becoming less and less dine because assholes on the internet get clicks for ad revenue by baiting people with shock, fear, and bullshit.
Should be more concerned about the people who control and censor on the platforms. Everything should be allowed except images of murder and sexual assault.
The internet has amplified and globalised the monty python sketch that is life.
20000 years ago cavemen struggled to find food. Today, food may be in abundance yet it's full of chemicals as is the air, water and soil.
We constantly adapt to the changing environment yet the fundamentals of human behaviour never change.
'Im a declining organism' love it
Temporally challenged, all matter decays, do not panic, it's perfectly fine and David being of a nervous desposition imbued with the natural narcissism of an entertainer is somewhat more disturbed by the prospect of oblivion than the average body on the planet.
he's absolutely right about how politicians make money.
and he's absolutely wrong about how to solve it. "Pay them more!" With what? And from where? He wants to Pay "megalomaniacs" more while at the same time trying to have those megalomaniacs 'tax carbon' which is just a coded phrase for 'make it more expensive to produce/import the same amount of stuff.' Then offer them a retirement package, while criminalizing their endevours in the market. Meaning, his plan is to increase fiscal burdens while contracting the tax pool. That totally won't fail....
His argument seems to be based on the assumption that politicians are inherently bad people (and I totally agree, most are), but his conclusion on what to do with that assumption is essentially a slave's answer 'good people need to pay bad people a lot of money so they're less likely to be bad, which will make them net good people.' My solution is much more straight forward, instead of trying to distract bad people from being bad by rewarding them with money, remove the authority they aspire to wield so they won't be attracted to politics to begin with. Of course that relies on have deluded, narcissitic megalomaniacs act contrary to their self-interest. so that won't happen. willingly.
@@maxdecphoenix Politicians are quite obviously underpaid in any comparison with the corporate world. To pretend it would be impossible to find the money to increase their remuneration would be to ignore the massive waste of taxpayers money that is the end result of many decisions made by these underqualified people. If you underpay someone, there's more temptation to seek a bonus of their own making, if and when the opportunity arises. This is the case regardless of the occupation, or whether they're an inherently bad person. It should come as no surprise that being overworked, underpaid and underappreciated usually results in a poor frame of mind.
Well, least he got that right. And he is right about paying them FAR more and eliminating their "non taxpayer incintives". This would attract a far better calibre of candidate to politics.
@@maxdecphoenix his argument about paying reps MUCH more while.eliminating all.other forms of remuneration and incentivization is actually spot on. The only thing he gets right btw. It would attract a far better and more competent calibre of candidate.
@@deaddoll1361 Rightly so. Politicians produce nothing. Why should someone who produces massive value be paid less than someone who seeks political power over your life?
Is she deliberately trying to look and sound like his wife just to put him off?
I'm relieved I'm not the only one who thought this!
His wife has much bigger tits.
That's what I would do.
@@henrikibsen6258 I agree, I would have bigger tits also.
I read the comments to sure she wasn't!
I love hearing David Mitchell's reasoned thoughts and ideas
I love David Mitchell proposing things that would be helpful to impelement.
Mark Corrigan without the extreme social awkwardness
Mark Corrigan that is able to hide his extreme social awkwardness.
@Nick so he was playing himself on peep show? What about Robert? I am sure he is not jeremy lol
@Nick i got your comment now lol
@Nick what's all the more amazing is that David Mitchell was a pretty niche character before Peep show.
@Nick I'm doing the big shop and I'm doing it brilliantly!
"The internet's gonna be massive, I keep telling you!"
"Yeah, we'll see."
I like David a lot. He's a decent stick and a straight shooter and as such, would make a lousy politician.
This is scaring me, I just wanna be in a controlled environment. Have a coke, have a tuna sandwich. Just, mong out to some Snow Patrol.
Did you open the hurt locker and have a big old rummage around?
It's the fuckin' DIRT Fergus!
You still can, it wont effect you either way. You'll notice bread increase ten pence amongst other things but ultimately it will continue as normal. Yes the government that represent the uk are like a group of children arguing over everything but the problem in hand. But that's never changed it's just more visible in today's society. Just relax and listen to your music and let the what's to be, be. Ignorance is bliss. Observing is mental hell.
Blessed is a mind too small for doubt.
@@deanotaggo9788 jesus he just referenced peep show chill ya beans
He is right about proportionate representation. It would be far more democratic for a party to receive a % of seats depending on the % of the share of the vote they get. First past the post system will keep returning minority governments with weak mandates
Even more than PR, we need mandatory voting - obviously with a "not vote" option on the ballot. Too many people stay at home because they can't be bothered, or there's something better on telly. If everyone had voted in the referendum - for or against - then the result would have more credibility.
Daryl Baines One of my fellow pupils suggested that in a debate quite a long time ago now lol, but I always had the view that forcing people to engage with politics is too anti democratic
Daryl Baines But then again I think the House of Lords and the Monarchy are anti democratic lol
The current system also clearly allows extreme minorities within the main parties to hijack them and steal more power than the electorate ever gave them. At least with PR politicians will need to rely on consensus to get things done, which is more likely to mean acting in the interests of more of the electorate than the classic divides they currently pander to. The way things are now has left an enormous raft of the public being poorly served while the parties try and chase the fringes for votes with increasingly divisive policies.
I think I'd like to see a national election by PR for parties by individual vote, like in the referendum, giving every person a voice and a reason to engage. Then something different for a second chamber, maybe regional representation without any party whipping systems to ensure the parties consider and address the needs of regions.
I live in a Tory safe seat with a sycophantic MP who was parachuted in to vote with 100% loyalty. Around here I could stick a blue rosette on a slug and see it sent to Parliament, which has left a large section of the people here effectively voiceless for decades. If every vote counted nationally it would really change the level of debate, representation and accountability for the better.
You usually get loads of coalition governments though so I think it's a bad idea.
“I’m part of the problem, not the solution”, if only more people, especially politicians, could be cognisant of this.
When he said “I’m not the stepping up type” I felt that
I am a stepping up person. It is usually a thankless task for people that are rewarded by you putting yourself out to fix something that you should never have to fix. Be like David!
You gotta love David for his transparency and ability to subtly roast politicians, MPs etc
Come on Mark - there are systems for a reason.
Nice peep show reference
economic stability, interest rates, growth. It's not all a conspiracy to keep you in little boxes, alright? It's only the miracle of consumer capitalism that means you're not lying in your own shit, dying at 43 with rotten teeth, and a little pill with a chicken on it is not going to change that. Now come on, fuck off.
THIS IS BOLLUCKS, MARK!
Can’t argue against any points in his manifesto, I agree with every one. He’s got my vote.
I think ranked voting is more important than PR.
He's a rambler, lots of people said similar things
PR seems like a good idea until you realize that cities will decide the fate of the whole country on their own. Regional rural voters be would be damned, London alone would have more say than all of Scotland.
david: "i hope we can cheer up after [christmas]"
2020: LOL U THOUGHT
Covid says heeeeeeey !
The internet was a fantastic idea until people started to use it.
*until the general population started to use it.
like most things
@@ProductionsUnhinged It was until we started using it for shopping and porn.
It was one small step for a man
iPhones brought the masses and then it turned to shit.
Would Mitchell consider joining the cabinet as the Minister of Magic?
That could help the unicorn delivery project...
The David Mitchell Christmas message , inspiring as ever !
What else would we want? He sums up the UK as a whole pretty well.
I was going to upvote your comment but it already had 42 likes, so I couldn't
"I'm not the stepping up sort of person. I'm part of the problem, not part of the solution"
I watched this on the toilet.. the internet isn't all that bad.
Can't you people go anywhere without a bloody mobile phone? I have even heard of people wanting to have theirs buried with them just in case someone calls.
@@sandponics is it any different to taking a magazine or newspaper to the loo? Which I'm sure we've all done many times.
@@councilestateproduct I see lots of people around me who have become virtual slaves to their mobile phones. I refuse to have one because they are the most stupid things that I have ever seen, and I was a tech guy before I retired.
@@sandponics I totally agree that people are addicted to smartphones, I got rid of mine about a year back in place of an older type just for calls/texts and use a tablet at home. I don't think playing with a phone on the loo is out of the ordinary though to be fair.
@@sandponics come off it mate, you know you were playing snake while taking a shit back in the day
Who's been cloning Victoria Coren ?
*boning.
The clone has less impressive tits.
This man is witty, intelligent, and has integrity. My respect to David Mitchell.
I agree the harm done by the internet far exceeds the convenience of it.
You know he's smart because of all the old leather-bound books behind him.
I bet he smells like rich mahogany.
@@MolloyPolloy Or at least his apartment does.
Andrew Baumann yes right.
he bought them with leather-bound pounds
Maybe they're just there for aesthetic value
This interview is heavily edited. I understand you'd do that for a segment in a TV programme, but not on CZcams. People watch three hour long podcasts here.
Which is why YT tends to lean to the right. We understand nuance
Paul Cavaciuti talking of nuance; who would u like to compare trump's performance so far with?
OK so I win and you lose, Trump obviously better than Corbyn. 1-0 me. Anyone else you'd wish to stack against Trump's performance so far?
@@ragnardanneskjold6509 CZcams doesn't lean to the right. You think CZcams leans to the right because CZcams will fill your frontpage with videos you're likely to watch. It's literally an echo chamber. I invite you to go to the CZcams homepage in incognito mode and see how many right wing videos you can find.
@@ragnardanneskjold6509 Claims to understand "nuance" but makes retarded arguments. Such a galaxy brained individual, you are!
I love the idea of MPs not being allowed to do anything after retirement or being voted out. Cut off the lobbyists.
I like that he admits he's part of the problem. Shame the interviewer didn't follow up on that.
Do you mean by him being part of a socialist, comedy-clique, echo-chamber which, amongst other things, feels like it must ‘mitigate’ Brexit, perhaps?
@@davewose9737 do you know what the word socialist means? Because it doesn't mean whatever you intended it to mean there xD
@@haggler and what did I intend it to mean?….
@@davewose9737 I imagine you were intending it to mean anyone who believes something different than you, in this case that we should give help to those worse off than us. That's usually what socialist is shorthand for, someone who thinks the NHS is a jolly good idea.
Or in other words, "socialist" here tends to mean anyone who dares put the needs of others on the same pedestal as their own.
That's the only definition of "socialist" I can gleam from right-wingers, it's just "they want me to make a few tiny sacrifices for others when I don't wanna".
I believe it was George Orwell that once said "the further society strays from the truth, the more it is angered by those that speak it" - David is quite correct in that politicians are growing more comfortable with bending the truth, and look where it has taken us.
"The printing press has been worse for humanity than the advent of gunpowder ..hopefully this next parliament will mitigate the effects of the Reformation."
@@jonathanlane444 By the same 'objective' standards so was the internet. Re The Reformation, I'd say the commission being 30x more oligarchic whilst no more electable than the UK's House of Lords despite being centuries younger and possessing the same proportional power is proof that enlightenment isn't represented by the EU, but rather the extrication therefrom.
Interesting. Where is this from?
@@youhavetogotheretocomeback Samuel Pepys' Diary. Page 7.
@@copperlocks Ok, thanks. I've just searched his diaries and nothing is coming up?
@@youhavetogotheretocomeback sorry, I was just joking. It's a made up quote. I was just satirising Mitchell's doomerisms
Wow his 3 point manifesto is a fantastic distillation of what I think we need to do too!
3:41 "I'm part of the problem, not part of the solution" - that is so David Mitchell.
I’m in my mid 20’s and I can say that people my age don’t feel much different. I don’t think it’s middle age, things are genuinely horrible.
mid 30s and i'd agree... not sure i can stand it much longer... had enough
@J. Harris. No, blame stupid idiots who no matter how bad things get will continue to vote against their own best interests and give conservative evil a mandate to run roughshod over them and their families
Things could be better, no doubt, but I if you think everything is horrible now, I think you need a history lesson.
@@shelleyphilcox4743 Misery is relative
@@dansmith6909 Hi Dan, I want to be sensitive in that personal misery, because life is tough, is something seperate and if that's the case, I'm sorry if my comment appeared callous. My remarks were in the spirit of looking at life in general...I'm 48, and if I look at quality of life and opportunity between my grandparents, parents, me and my adult children, I would have to say that standards of living are better now. That is not to say that I dont think we have some serious problems, particularly housing, quality of employment and long term healthcare, but, in reality and relative to much of the rest of the world, we've got it pretty good and have to make sure it doesn't backslide.
this is the result of someone hiring Super Hans to manage the internet
I’d vote for that three point manifesto
It’s also very closely aligned with the green party’s views...
It is indeed. I was holding on for an endorsement!
Funnily enough in new Zealand they have PR. The greens tend to get about 10% of the vote, so they get 10%of the MPs.
Makes sense doesn't it.
Which just so happens to align with every other co-opted globalist organisation.
Noted
Greens had a lot of wonky, daft and outright ridiculous policies too, last time I checked. I want them to be competent and sensible but then they durp up silly fringe ideas that nobody likes.
David's not gloomy, he simply observes the dire situations and behaviour that occurs around us and articulates an intelligent response in an understandable frustrated manner! He's smarter than the vast majority of the rest of us....especially politicians!!
God damn, I love David Mitchell. The world needs about half a billion more of him.
I'll only vote if jez is made chancellor of the exchequer.
Super Hans can be Minister for Health, runs to Windsor would be a universal prescription
Johnson for Trade and Industry
That's Numberwang!
Lol. Get a job.
Superhands would be minister for culture. The Shamen would provide the backing track for the campaign. Ebeneezer Goode ya know what I mean, he created the vibe.
Or install Superhands the head of the BBC.. would be better than the current BBC.
When you realize that you are in an alternate reality where PM and a comic actor have been swaped.
Love this guy, his finger is totally on the pulse! so logical, so truthful, common sense as standard.
I love him, he is literally always in character as Mark Corrigan. That character is just him.
Luke Thompson ...or Mark Corrigan was partly based on him?
Mark Corrigan was written for him. He is not the character of Mark Corrigan. Mark is also a lieing, manipulative, egoistic asshole. David Mitchell is not.
Nah, Mark is David but only in an alternative universe where he became extremely bitter and full of self loathing. David is similar to Mark but not full of anger
Mark Corrigan is a UKIP member who kicks a dog to death and imagines driving a woman insane because she got promoted above him at work. You think they're the same character because they have the same speech patterns and maybe a bit of comic pedantry, but they are not even slightly alike.
@@JesusJuenger Mark isn't a UKIP member, he's a Blairite
I'm not in middle age but feel exactly the same as him on this.
Lies in the media existed before the internet - my boy needs to read 'Manufacturing Consent'.
Do you think the Internet has affected how easy it is to spread (and/or debunk) lies and propaganda?
@@MCVessels Obviously it's effected the mechanism and speed of how information spreads, but I think saying it's root cause of misinformation is akin to blaming car accidents on roads.
The broad mechanisms of how media narratives are constructed are still intact and Manufacturing Consent still has a lot to say on that.
This interview made me very sad when I first watched it, I have rewatched today, hoping for a different outcome but I feel the same. This is the most dejected and dispirited I have seen DM and it seems like it’s a reflection on how things are in Britain atm
People either find something that makes them happy because they feel like they're making a change for the better or they try to forget that the world is fucked and carry on with the goal of just having fun whilst not caring about the problems in the world.
There is also a positive 3rd option where you realise that the world isn't that fucked. We're currently in the best time in the history of ever. We have clean water, there isn't a global war, our medicine is awsome, there is less sexism, homophobia and racism in the world, and our technology is amazing. It is the best time ever but we are still miserable. This may just seem like option A where I'm avoiding the problem but I think it's pretty reasonable to say that the world is fucking amazing and that doesn't mean we shouldn't help make it better, it just means we shouldn't be all miserable about it
A think tank of Mitchell's to run the country.
David Mitchell is an incredibly intelligent, charming and humorous idiot of whom I am and will continue to be a huge fan.
@@michaelshannon9169 They just said they liked the man, dude. Calm down.
Ben Curry
Incredibly intelligent?
Does that mean that you cannot credit him with any intelligence?
I like him too, even though I believe him to be wrong politically.
I wish people would stop using the words incredible and incredibly and unbelievable and unbelievably as superlatives.
@@matthewhowes2978 except thats not the definition of incredible.
Incredible doesnt mean not to credit someone.
@@matthewhowes2978 What do you disagree with specifically?
I don’t agree with his politics, but he’s witty.
where is the full interview?
I love seeing him politics. Comforting and depressing at the same time; Classic David.
The internet empowers me greatly.
Me too.
So someone becomes an MP for four years and can then retire for life. Humm, can't think of any issues with that...
They could work in government positions afterwards, but yeah seems a bit tough to get this right as the reasoning behind pension is solid but we don't them just hanging around, however most politicians are quite old so... Who knows maybe it'll be about the right time anyway
Quite a few politicians tend to golden parachute after their term's over right into a lobbyist secured position. Hell we had a "progressive" mp here went straight into bloody Lockheed Martin
I agree, but what are the alternatives? With the system today, lobbiests can pay a politician to do their bidding, or we can have a system where we get rid of the lobbiests power and influence and give them pensions instead. Its unfair, but atleast we could get money out of politics.
@@Pasta_Pirate Hi Pasta - I think it would be unworkable from a human rights perspective too, plus the idea of Keith Vaz potentially being the civil servent responsible for organising the Christmas party is a little terrifying.
@@fernan104 Lobbiests don't target me because I have no power and influence, they target MPs because they have too much.
"They only started getting worse quite recently" - No Mr. Mitchell, they have been getting worse for quite some time; it's just the circles you move in have not had to deal with it until recently. Indeed the sorts of people with whom you rub shoulders are partially responsible for ignoring the issues and demonizing those who tried to raise them. Most issues are like a small cut, if we treat them early then it's a minor problem, if we let them fester then infection sets in and escalates at an increasing pace.
As for the internet, I agree there is an issue with finding accurate information but the mainstream media have been caught lying on numerous occasions because the internet allowed the truth to come out. We are in an odd period where the mainstream is going to have to either improve their standards or lose out to online commentators and journalists who propel themselves by checking their facts and presenting well formed arguments. In the short term you have the headline grabbers but they are beginning to fade away as people move towards those who provide long form journalism, well structured debates and develop a reputation for being honest. It will take a while but we will get there.
I agree with your first paragraph, the second, well let's just say the MSM have already lost their monopoly and they'll never get it back. As a 50 year old I now never watch mainstream news. Trump and Brexit have shown just how opinionated they are. I watched Jenny Hill (i think that's her name) presenting a BBC news 24 hour show where she started off with "we can all agree we hate Trump.....". If that's news and not opinion I'll eat my own turd. Clearly the BBC are totally biased and agenda driven and the rest are just as bad. I demand information so i can decide who or what i hate or not, not told by some overpaid bint sprouting her opinions . Facts not opinion.
@@GB-vn1tf The BBC, Channel4 and Sky news programs are a continuous stream of leftist/liberal rubbish. If I view any of their news, it is to see the headlines only.
" I would swap his (Boris Johnson) wit for just a jot of integrity."
To be fair, with the internet it's also never been easier to fact check stuff. And people, like myself, are able to add our voices to nuance or correct something that's been said in a program.
Yes, everyone can add their voices but no one is listening to you
The average person using the Internet isn't looking to fact check. Hell the average person using the Internet isn't honestly looking for facts.
The problem is “fact checking” relies on the individual accepting a truth or fact that sits outside their own echo chamber of typical reading.
That relies on a degree of intelligence and it’s those folks lacking in it that need to fact check the drivel they spout.
Catch 22
All we learnt was that the moon landings were faked
David Mitchell speaks more sense than any other politician has done in the last few years.
@Peter Bishop How is a carbon tax nonsense? It taxes the thing you want to discourage, which is incredibly sensible
Precisely - easy to make sense when you're not talking to voters
@Peter Bishop Carbon tax isn't nonsense in any sense whatsoever. It's just another version of something that's been proven countless times.
You tax a thing that is bad and it makes there be less of the bad thing.
The internet relative to a nuclear bomb.....it's an interesting question. Certainly possible that it's worse. Hard to tell.
Even as a child he was hoping to become a politician ;D
Phillip [TEC] I thought more carbon was good you growth.
Let’s go back to honest journalism! Oh wait a minute
Absolutely nailed it, pretty much expressed how I feel about the state of the country and our flawed systems of politics.
Why is this so true? Social media is absolutely horrible and has insanely unhealthy affects on a massive percentage of users.
Congratulations David Mitchell. Nice to hear the voice of a thinking man.
David Mitchell is my spirit animal.
An absolute genius. Love him massively. Xxx
David, you are speaking for me here, I feel the same. And I have been discovering you a bit late but I'm still feeling like you are about the single funniest man around. My wife and I both love everything we've seen you do. Thanks so much for the laughs!
I'm a declining organism😂😂😂 god I felt that and I'm only bloody 29
Amelie Astor I’m 54. trust me, yo don’t know shit :)
We're all declining organisms; we are dying from the minute we're born.
@@AndreasDelleske honey I've had a chronic illness since I was 18. You don't know shit!
@@ameliel8792 If this is a contest, I've had one of those since I was 14. I'm 37 now, but fingers crossed we've all got a good few decades of decline and shitknowing left in us.
he is an honest guy...he would never make it in politics
Someone once said, the more advanced we become, and the less solidarity we have, then we are more likely to destroy ourselves.
When the hell were politicians NOT ATTEMPTING to spread lies!!! That tactic definitely outdates the Internet
Agree with almost all of what he says except the part about these problems being quite recent. In actual fact, there were signs of the rise of online conspiracy theories, cynicism with democracy and far-right resentment dating back to the early 2000s, we just didn't take them seriously until they reached the epidemic proportions they have now.
lawrie a bit like climate change; the people in charge knew about the damaging effects of carbon in the 1960s, it’s frightening how bad we are at kicking cans down the road.
@J. Harris. No, "far-right" is term for a repugnant political ideology. Don't undermine the fight against child abuse and exploitation by making it about class and race, and adding spurious claims. Conspiracy theories and false accusations did more damage to that cause than the early institutional failings did.
Russia
The internet didn’t expose Jimmy Savile - Newsnight helped to though #irony
“I’m not that gloomy ☹️ ,”
“Oh good. 😀”
That’s priceless lolz
For a moment I thought he was being interviewed by his wife!...
The internet (social media) is too many voices and not enough brains.
David Mitchell is absolutely right in his views of the Westminster electoral system. The only fair system is a proportional representative system. Unfortunately, down here in Australia we have inherited this unfair system, where after every election, roughly 50% of people are unhappy and roughly 50% of people are happy. How is this good?
Someone has to lose. That's the nature of a vote. If you try to please everyone all of the time nothing would ever get done.
True, I vote Labor in a quite safe Liberal seat. It really doesn't count for anything
@@josephjames4326 With PR then every vote would "Count". Even if your party doesn't win your vote helped them do better. As it is now if the candidate you voted for doesn't win their seat your vote just disappears and it doesn't matter whether they lost by 1 vote or 1 million.
Why only 5 minutes? ...
because otherwise they would put up the TV license
Because he has little of value to offer.
David Mitchell is becoming an institution. What great insights and from a good heart.
The Sequel: Political Secrets of the Pharaohs
The internet is definitely a disaster. I wouldn't use it myself.
Interesting how the manifesto could just as easily apply to the United States despite its different form of government.
This is so ridiculously heavily edited, idk if they're just cutting out dead time but the cuts are audible
Yeah, well... I’ve always thought the internet was gonna be, pretty big
Yeah...we’ll see