HTP Pro Pulse 220 MTS VS Everlast 253DPi comparison Part 3

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  • čas přidán 10. 09. 2024
  • This video is part of a multi part series. I am a hobbyist and I bough both of these machines with my own money. Both machines carry a money back guarantee and I am taking you with me on the journey to find out what these machines are all about and which one I am going to keep.
    In multiple videos I will be testing the aluminum welding capabilities, single pulse and double pulse. I will also be looking at the inside to determine the build quality, measuring the output amperage on the machines and anything else I can think of to help me make my decision.
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Komentáře • 47

  • @themotofixery
    @themotofixery Před 4 lety +10

    I have the htp invertig 221 and its great quality! HTP gets my vote

  • @ryanclark7167
    @ryanclark7167 Před 3 lety +4

    Really love the content you put in this video. This video helped me easily take the dive and pickup a HTP over the everlast. Thanks so much 🙏

  • @supergarball
    @supergarball Před 4 lety +6

    I too considered both machines and ended up with the Everlast 253DPI. I’ve been using it for 6 months now and I’m happy with it. I was fully aware of the construction differences without seeing them in person. Face it, Italian vs Chinese, it’s a no brainer. However, price reflects this as well.

    • @raymondcorreira847
      @raymondcorreira847 Před 3 lety +1

      Hi supergarball are you welding aluminum with your 253 dpi? Wondering if you may have setting suggestions, I have been using the dpi 253 for about 2 years and still haven’t been able to nail down settings for 1/8” and 3/16” 6061 aluminum welding in pulse or Double pulse.

    • @supergarball
      @supergarball Před 3 lety +1

      @@raymondcorreira847 Sorry, I don't have anything useful for you as far as settings. I've welded plenty of aluminum with the 253 dpi quite successfully using non pulsed settings and the usual 1 amp per thousand of an inch guideline. For pulse, I think I had to add 10% to that figure and adjust up trial and error until I got a proper puddle going. It did work well for the times I played around with it though.

    • @raymondcorreira847
      @raymondcorreira847 Před 3 lety +4

      Thanks! I have since purchased the HTP pro pulse and have to say this machine is quite possibly the best I have for welding aluminum, I have 2 Miller welders and a Everlast tig plus the 253 dpi but there was a nothing like this HTP the arc is so precise

    • @MrChickenking44
      @MrChickenking44 Před 2 lety +1

      @@raymondcorreira847 what are the welds like? Are you getting fairly clean looking beads and is the set up fairly straight forward? No birds nesting and wanting to throw the machine across the room? Lol

    • @raymondcorreira847
      @raymondcorreira847 Před 2 lety +1

      @@MrChickenking44 the HTP pro pulse is by far superior very easy setup with settings you can even set inductance up to 200% giving you quite a range on the weld puddle from stiff to a extremely buttery flow with the welds and there is a slide switch to adjust voltage available for it so you can back off on the heat to avoid melting the end weld

  • @trg3761
    @trg3761 Před měsícem

    I have the everlast 252 sti, I bought it because it had Panasonic internal electronics that have held up so far and this machine is 6 years old now, but it not in a shop environment either.

  • @JoshEmmons
    @JoshEmmons Před 10 měsíci +1

    I've been on the fence of a Miller, an HTP, or an Everlast machine as my next purchase. Well, this narrows it down by a third! Thanks for your insightful review!

    • @dark30welderwelding11
      @dark30welderwelding11  Před 10 měsíci

      For me ….
      The HTP was the best quality I could afford, nothing personal against the others.
      Service and support are second to none.
      The arc dynamics are on par with more expensive models.

  • @joselrodriguez5999
    @joselrodriguez5999 Před 4 lety +8

    Obviously Everlast fans hurt for some of your comments but facts are facts. You don't need to be an expert to compare the clean, well planned design of the HTP vs. the spaghetti construction of other Asian-made welders. I appreciate your honest review. Decided to buy this machine vs. a Miller.

  • @rich1953
    @rich1953 Před 2 lety +2

    These are home hobby type units not heavy industrial units so unless you have your grinder sitting on top or its exhaust positioned towards the welder the dust shouldn't be a problem. Metal grinding dust does not travel far from the source.

    • @bearkawiboy6246
      @bearkawiboy6246 Před 11 měsíci

      What home hobbies doesn’t have a grinder laying next to his welding projects. Also, not many people work out of their living room, but go wipe off your TV stand and see how much dust is on it. Every talking point in every comment you’ve made has been invalid and stupid at best.

  • @dmmultimediamx
    @dmmultimediamx Před 2 lety

    I have a Everlast 325 EXT and its amazing machine no complains at all. just as all says the loud fan and he lack of brightness of the LCD if you work outside you can see any value. But over all very nice TIG welder at a great price. I recommend it and hope in the near futre purchase other one

  • @asherdie
    @asherdie Před 4 lety +3

    Everlast silent on this video??? Can't argue with facts.

    • @replyhere590
      @replyhere590 Před rokem

      In my humble, this review is lamely done. The reviewer sounds whinny and the camera work is terrible (my wife is a retired videographer and executive who had a White House pass in her early days). Mark at EL already commented on Part 1, be a good reader! BTW I do not yet own a welder other than a HF piece of junk. Shopping and learning. I do not deny some of the negatives on EL, but this review is not the one.

  • @rich1953
    @rich1953 Před 2 lety +1

    The circuits you claim are old style are used because they are more durable than surface mount in the output power section of the unit. Micro circuitry is good for your Blue Ray player but couldn't handle the demand of 250A 230v multi-purpose welder except in the programing section. These circuits are more durable and are not affected by the electronic noise exhibited by the units features. Coating the boards retains heat and doesn't let them breath, they shouldn't be exposed to moisture which is what board coating is mainly used for. I can go on but I have had enough. One last tidbit, the specs were much better on the Everlast vs the htp. Two large fans vs 1 small one.

    • @bearkawiboy6246
      @bearkawiboy6246 Před 11 měsíci

      Blah blah blah.
      That coating doesn’t retain heat enough to make a difference, please prove to us the point in the old style being more reliable? Also 1 fan can move more air (cfm’s) than 10 fans depending on several factors so your point once again isn’t valid in the slightest.
      Sounds like you just wanna reason to but neverlast so have at it, but don’t state BS doing while on your way to the crapper!

    • @rich1953
      @rich1953 Před 11 měsíci

      Proove it@@bearkawiboy6246

    • @Mike-lt6sj
      @Mike-lt6sj Před 8 měsíci

      ​@bearkawiboy6246
      I agree with you on this particular machine because I own this machine. However, I also own a 255ext, and a 400ext. I also owned a dynasty 350dx, and use a sychrowave 250 frequently. The everlast tig are easily as good as a Dynasty, and I'm also sure the htp's are as well. The 253 is nifty, but nothing like their tig machines.

  • @JH-zy1dj
    @JH-zy1dj Před 2 lety

    Call Everlast and they will give you a new machine if you have a problem. 5 year warranty! Their customer care is incredible.

  • @rolffonda4773
    @rolffonda4773 Před 2 lety

    The fan needs to blow across the heat sink fins more then the components because the electronic components are designed to transfer the heat into the heat sink not the surrounding air. Also I think you lowered the background to much when you lowered it from 145 to 90 that will cause to much cooling between pulse and prevent adequate burn thru

  • @user-xe2fr2by4d
    @user-xe2fr2by4d Před 8 měsíci

    So it welds slower costs double and Parts come through Italy via china, wow sounds way better.

  • @user-ik5lx1xy2s
    @user-ik5lx1xy2s Před 3 lety

    hi,which device is better?

  • @carypipes
    @carypipes Před 2 lety

    Whats the price difference?

  • @path3848
    @path3848 Před 4 lety +3

    3 parts of confusion, a used mk cobramatic is 10x the machine and plentiful, for less money, everlasts defensiveness is their biggest turn off, "speak softly and carry a big stick" I almost bought a 325 or 350 tig a few years ago but their extreme defensiveness that I've seen online towards any negative criticism made me not want to deal with them, too bad their shit looks good and reasonably priced for what it is

    • @replyhere590
      @replyhere590 Před rokem +1

      I'd have to agree on the defensiveness and attitude. Needs to stop. But their tech is cutting edge.

  • @faronf2006
    @faronf2006 Před rokem +1

    Too bad HTP uses a plastic drive in this machine

    • @rentedmule1287
      @rentedmule1287 Před 6 měsíci +1

      So does Fornius and they are both high quality welders! I’ll take their Swedish made GF reinforced nylon drive roll system over any of the cheap cast aluminum

  • @Joes-Adventures71
    @Joes-Adventures71 Před 4 lety +3

    Everlast has a way better duty cycle, 4 gear driven rollers cast aluminum vs a two drive wheel plastic plus a 5 year warranty. It's bigger and heavier for a reason. More metal and less plastic.

    • @asherdie
      @asherdie Před 4 lety +3

      Everlast also sucks at customer service and repair. So bonus?

    • @bradwheeler6563
      @bradwheeler6563 Před 4 lety +5

      I’ve had fantastic customer service with Everlast. I tripped over my plasma torch lead, snapped the connector off inside the machine and they overnighted me the parts, no cost, over a year after I bought the machine.
      I have a high interest in htp machines and may try one in the future, but I see comments about Everlasts customer service and like to add a positive here and there so that bad customer service doesn’t just become “here-say”. If guys have bad experiences by all means let the world know, but for guys who have good ones, that needs spread as well

    • @BudMasta
      @BudMasta Před 3 lety

      @@morgan98801 So you have no personal experience at all? And you have chinese products all over your home and in your pocket at all times, lol.

    • @JH-zy1dj
      @JH-zy1dj Před 2 lety

      @@bradwheeler6563 I have had a great experience with my Everlasting 225. I emailed them with questions and they got back to me the next day with a full page worth of info to my questions! This being my first welder, I had some very basic questions. I feel they went out of their way to get me going. Also, I bought it from Everlast and they delivered on time, Included a high quality MIG gun, TIG gun, Ground clamps are very very well made. My machine can do AC TIG so I can weld aluminum and Stainless, that's the main reason I chose it over other machines. Also 2000$ price tag, I am very happy with the Everlast 225 MTS lightning

    • @replyhere590
      @replyhere590 Před rokem

      Primeweld will get the customer interface award, but if you can put up with the attitude (which also comes across in the documentation, but the flip side is that they take an almost intellectual approach, very deep), EL has the most cutting edge tech, in this well read but still noob observer. From my reading of the comments elsewhere, use the well known DIY when servicing your EL, don't send it in--stories of slow slow return predominate. Frankly tho' I have not read the other several parts of this review, I sense a hit job and a halting slow delivery at that. I built my first electronic kits in the 1960s, so wiring, soldering, board pull and replace et als does not phase me. In fact I like the EL approach. Why send a modular unit away to have someone pull out a likely already diagnosed bad part, replace it and send it back?

  • @olitomesek9677
    @olitomesek9677 Před 3 lety

    Transformator are little 240 V. I leaked seeing version 440 V and tyrystor .

  • @fredvarao3894
    @fredvarao3894 Před 4 lety +3

    Everlast rocks!

  • @pixiepaws99
    @pixiepaws99 Před 2 lety

    WOW the HTP is double the price of Everlast. Ripoff...

    • @bearkawiboy6246
      @bearkawiboy6246 Před 11 měsíci +1

      And well worth it. They actually MANUFACTURE like 90% of their own components in Italy.

    • @pixiepaws99
      @pixiepaws99 Před 11 měsíci

      @@bearkawiboy6246 What difference does it make where it's made? Only the end result matters. Why is it worth any more than the Everlast? What can it do that the Everlast can't? I've been using mine for years and haven't a single issue.

  • @rich1953
    @rich1953 Před 2 lety +1

    I don't think you know what the heck you are talking about. It appears you work for HTP and are a used car salesman.

    • @replyhere590
      @replyhere590 Před rokem +2

      Giving him too much credit. Some one here pointed out that these are not competitors for major $5 digit Miller industrial welders used 8 hours or more per day in gross environments; we'll use ours on our farm, and may repairing something in our restaurant kitchen. I have seen a video describing cleaning the insides of one of these, blow it out with compressed air. Coated boards, surface mount, whatcha mean? Those 2 fans might be noisy and the boards horizontal when vertical might be the MIL spec, but get a grip. Hack job review!

    • @bearkawiboy6246
      @bearkawiboy6246 Před 11 měsíci

      I think you work for Neverlast and you sound butt hurt badly. Maybe try some ointment before becoming a keyboard warrior spokesperson for your old russian boss and his 18hr old girlfriend that is now probably majority owner of that Chinese supplied company