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Vince well since you are here......Jesus Loves you and wants to forgive you of your sins, accept the free gift of Grace and eternal Life by accepting Jesus as Lord & Savior! Thx:)
Niall Horan I agree (and they have the right to) but there can only be one absolute truth, and thats Jesus The Truth The Way The Life, this was Jesus' claim, no other "religions" claim this.
Brayden Dukes You can’t have a gay Christian. You can have a blasphemous person that’s gay, but homosexuality and Christianity doesn’t mix. Scripture is quite upfront and direct about how God feels about homosexuality.
I really admire this Christian girl. Her responses are full of understanding and grace, and she seems very grounded in her beliefs so much so that she can say exactly what she believes without looking embarrassed for it or having to beat around the bush. That's where I would like to be in my faith..
You can reach that point, we all can if we pray and ask Jesus, and grow in Him. "Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you." - Matthew 7:7
Roman Rendon How is she talking about it like it is a cult? I am new in my walk and relationship with Jesus Christ, as well as our Heavenly Father. I have been to a church where I’ve felt as if they were a cult, but churches don’t even teach the Bible fully anymore so I can’t really base anything about Christianity off of that. I thought that the Christian woman in this video was speaking pure scripture and backing it up with valid points. I am wondering why you believe she’s speaking about it like she’s from a cult because I feel I may be missing something
@@antcross8623 No, Jesus didn't die for us so that people could keep on living sinful lifestyles, he died so that they could receive forgiveness for their sins and repent, it was never a licence to sin. Furthermore here's what the Bible says: 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 _Don’t you know that people who are unjust won’t inherit God’s kingdom? Don’t be deceived. Those who are sexually immoral, those who worship false gods, adulterers, _*_both participants in same-sex intercourse,_*_ thieves, the greedy, drunks, abusive people, and swindlers won’t inherit God’s kingdom. That is what some of you used to be! But you were washed clean, you were made holy to God, and you were made right with God in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God._
@@awakenedone7577 great points guys, I would encourage you to look at the context of Paul's letter to the church in corinth. There is always context, culture and history involved. I've been reflecting on how Jesus approaches the woman (and man) caught in adultry in John 8. I think he encompasses this entire debate in how he handles this situation. May the peace of God, which transcends all understanding, guard your hearts and minds in Christ Jesus ✌
1 Corinthians 6:9-11 Don’t you _know that people who are unjust won’t inherit God’s kingdom? Don’t be deceived. Those who are sexually immoral, those who worship false gods, adulterers, _*_both participants in same-sex intercourse,_*_ thieves, the greedy, drunks, abusive people, and swindlers won’t inherit God’s kingdom. That is what some of you used to be! But you were washed clean, you were made holy to God, and you were made right with God in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God._
I am a Bible believing Christians. I'm not just a fan of Jesus. I'm a follower. I wish all other so called Christians were the same but many of them choose to follow the wide path instead of the narrow one.
@pablo suarez even though, he was a jew (nationality), we are followers of Christ and believers in the bible. The jewish religion is based on waiting for the messiah, while Jesus was the messiah himself
@@strebicux6174 why? I don't think we should address ourself to a specific branch in christianity though. What about followers of Jesus Christ and believer in the bible. So many branches in Christianity incorporated new things not present in the bible.
That's why I truly believe we are living in the last days, and a lot of people need to start crying out to God through Jesus Christ!! The last days will be a bit more from today, but the bible really does tell us the events to come. God bless you!
I’m so glad she’s a Christian that was delivered from homosexuality, and that she uses her testimony and the Holy scripture to answer the questions. Praise God!!
Mrs. Nava it’s called idolatry it’s when you believe what you want to out of the Bible otherwise there’s no point to believe what’s written because then none of it is valid it’s sad people have these sinful desires and they try to justify it by blocking out and making their God warm and cuddly. It’s just not the case
@@itsmaze_2034 Believe what you want out of the Bible, huh? so do you support selling your Daughter as a sex slave as per Exodus 21:7-11? did you skip over that passage or maybe all the ones that condone polygamy unless you're an Elder? 1 Tim 3:2, Exodus 21:10. Selective morality is what you people believe while supporting discrimination.
I’m so proud of the Christian woman for saying things completely as they are, without twisting or leaving anything out. That takes a lot of courage... thank god for her. I’m glad the gay woman was tolerant and respectful despite hearing some of the things that might have hurt or irritated her. Thank god for her too. Great discussion, nice and truthful!
KD Mini Hoop well i mean your kindve gullible enough to believe everything that is figuratively spoon fed to you. The book of “God” the bible was written by humans. Most of it is most likely false and irrelevant to create rules and laws towards the people because of the lack of separation of church and state. Its sad you believe everything a person tells or teaches you.
Unpopular Opinions i went to a fucking private school and i actually did read a bible as well as studied it for 5 years and you should keep preaching about assumptions cause you literately just assumed i didn’t read it like a hypocrite. At least I’m smart enough to know whats biased and whats not. Just because I’m not a fan of whats in the bible doesn’t mean i haven’t studied it, but go assume all you want about me. It says more about you then it does about me
Wow the Christian girl She like puts God before herself and not like selfish at all Even as a Christian, I find that hard when it comes to big decisions
The more you put God first, the easier it will come that you can do so. Especially, with big decisions. As humans, we tend to think we need to exert our own will on everything instead of following God's Will.
There is no such thing as “ex” gay. You cannot change your sexuality, no matter how hard you try. You can repress, you can question, you can be unsure, you can be wrong about yourself. But ultimately you cannot help who you are attracted to and you cannot help who you love. Love yourself. Love others. God loves all.
Thank you. I’ve seen so many people saying how happy they were cause she’s been “saved”. It’s awful how people use Christianity to force people to change harmless things about themselves.
@@user-dp1dm8zn5c yes and I remember seeing in the comments a christian who "used to be bi" and they said that they weren't living for themselves but for God. It honestly just sounds so sad and it sounds so forced :(.
Wow. Emily (the Christian woman) has a true gift. She explains things so well in such a loving way and always brings it back to Christ. There is clear evidence of a fruitful relationship with Christ in her. This was such a tastefully made video and they were both so respectful. Loved it!
She wasn’t loving at all just because she was calm doesn’t mean she was loving she literally spewed bigotry& falsehoods the entire time In this video Emily demonstrated the exact opposite of the top command of Christ. Her exact attitude and you praising her for it just pushes people away from Christ in droves.
@@danielclingen34 I whole heartedly disagree. To me stating truth is not spewing bigotry. If there is a problem with what she is saying there is a problem with the Word of God which she clearly displays. Her calm demeanor wasn’t my source for my comment. She said everything based on her own experience and scripture, which if you are a true christian is the proper way to deliver scripture. With truth in love. (Ephesians 4:15) Speaking the truth (scripture) is speaking in love. I understand if you disagree, that was just my observation :) I appreciate your comment though.
I WAS BORN GAY BUT THAN JESUS CHRIST GAVE ME HIS SPIRIT AND NOW I AM BORN AGAIN WITH NEW DESIRES. JESUS CAN CHANGE US. THERE IS POWER IN HIS BLOOD. -My Testimony. Only Christian in my Home, Brothers and Sisters Pray for me. God Bless!
sexuality is fluid (especially among women) but never a choice, and reading a scripture doesn’t magically cure it. have you seen the success rate of religious based conversion therapy? its sick and this video almost insinuates it being effective. i think she was in a gay relationship, but is bisexual and always will be. she just made a conscious choice to practice heterosexuality because the idea of God consoled her.
The last thoughts of the Christian woman 💭 "You may feel totally right doing something that is wrong. And the Creator would know, more than me or you" 😍 Well said
You can’t count how may times the phrase “I feel, I felt” is said here...If you live on feelings alone, you would of killed a bad boss, disowned your teenage kids, got divorced multiple times and many other things that are based on feelings or emotions.... sometimes I don’t feel like working anymore but you know what I do??? I get my ass out of bed and provide for my family.... Feelings change...try doing what God has told you to do and see how your feelings change....Otherwise live in torment.....By the way, nobody is born gay, a liar, a thief, an adulterer, a murderer, they are all deeds of the devil.
How the hell is being gay and killing someone the same, and how is lying on the same level as adultery. What the hell bud. And doesn’t your bible say something about Jesus died for our sins? He died to forgive us, and you think loving someone you can’t produce a baby with is an unforgivable sin like cold blooded murder?
Stewart The Accountant great question.... If one guy breaks into your house and steals 50,000.... and one of your friends take 20 dollars from your wallet while you’re taking a shower.... what do you call them both? First off, thank you for your civil response, that’s rare these days.... it’s not my Bible, I didn’t write it I’m just quoting the content. I had a Christian women just 2 days ago ask me why do I judge we are not supposed to judge.... I asked her, how about I bring my really good friend over for dinner, he is really funny, and extremely intelligent. We will have dinner with you, your husband and your 2 small children.... I just want to inform you he is a pedophile and is extremely aroused by children.... but that won’t be a problem for you because you don’t judge? Being gay is a sin just as well as murder, stealing, lying, adultery and others... ask God to extend the mercy he offers and be free from that unnatural desire.....sorry this is painful, but Jesus died on the cross so that lust doesn’t have to control you!!! Don’t be mad, ask God to show you the truth like the girl in the video.....I am not saying you are gay, just a blanket statement to any desires that need to be overcome.
Kat Bos not sure what your question is?? Attraction lasts for how long?? Maybe till your wife is in her mid 50’s? Does a man look at his wife when she is 80 with the same “attraction” as when she was 20? Again feelings and attraction are temporary, so why let those temporary emotions rule your life????
You can’t just create an imaginary God to just go along with your worldview. Trusting in your feelings is very dangerous. Feelings can change by the minute. Gods word never changes
Art Alvarez as sinful and imperfect creatures, we are inclined towards wrongdoing- listening to our own treacherous hearts and desires is a trap that will lead us astray from what God really wants us to do. We have to listen to what HE says and fight against our sinful tendencies
From a Christian standpoint whenever the Word of God is presented it doesn’t return to Him void. The seeds of truth were planted by the Christian girl, and that is never in vain. God will honour this young lady because she has honoured Him. As for the other young lady, she has a decision to make whether to turn from her sin to Jesus OR reject Him and continue in her sin. The respect between the parties was wonderful both very pleasant and the testimony of the Christian girl was exceptionally encouraging. Jesus said; “Come unto me, all ye that labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.” “Incline your ear, and come unto me: hear, and your soul shall live; and I will make an everlasting covenant with you......” Isaiah 55 vs 3
Okay I hope I don't get backlash on this but being gay is not a choice. If you think that it is, be gay right now. Be attracted to the same gender/sex as yourself right now. See? It's not a choice. If you ARE able to be attracted to the same gender/sex like that, there's something you should know...
Just a question, can you explain how ppl choose to be Bisexual? Also, I’ll give you an example, why is it when men/women become incarcerated and have been straight all their lives then all of a sudden then become Gay when they enter jail. Is this based off of just sex/dominance or is there an actual attraction?
@@tylermasonheimer799 Thanks for responding! Like being gay, bisexuality is also not a choice. People who are bisexual have been their whole lives and always will be, even if they realize it later on in their lives. As for your example, I am by no means an expert, but I would say that people who have been incarcerated are traumatized individuals. While some may be gay, some may just need the comfort or what you said, sex/dominance of a same-sex couple. However, do not take my word for it. I am not an expert.
I don’t think its a choice. Being attracted to people is not a choice, but the choice is deciding to go along with it or reject it. Its like, as a heterosexual, being attracted to several guys but then choosing which one to be with. Or choosing none of them. As Christians I think it’s important we understand this. I hear people too often make it seem like you can just choose not to be gay. You definitely have to make choices against it if you do have that attraction but want to change it.
It's about denying your flesh/worldly desires and allowing God to transform and renew your heart. Feelings fluctuate but God's word is never changing and eternal. Emily acknowledged that she doesn't let her feelings define her but instead allows God to direct and guide her.
This is the comment supporting LGBTQ+ community you are looking for💜 Just know I support and love you. Dont ever let anyone tell you who you should be just be yourself and love whoever you want cause life is too short🧡
@@zenadiscipulo3944 don’t be scared ! Be yourself, the world is changing and getting better in some aspects. Love whoever you want and be whoever you want to be!!!!
@@zenadiscipulo3944 you don’t have to be scared. With God’s help and strength you can turn from whatever sins or sinful desires you may have and turn to Him. All humans sinned against the perfect and just God, and are bound for an eternity in hell. But because God in His amazing grace sacrificed His own son for our sins, we can now spend an eternity with Him in heaven if we repent of our sin and run to God. John 3:16 “For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life.”
The Christian speaker, has had an experience with God. That’s how you get to that point. True Relationship with the father, will open your eyes so wide... please people REPENT, Hell is real... ❤️ and so is Gods word
It’s not about perfection, You must be perfect... it’s about being Faithful to his Word. Sin is in OUR DNA. Am I perfect far from, do I sin... I do, because I’m Human. Only Christ can break the cycle. There’s a difference between being a Faithful sinner, like the Christian Speaker vs. being a Willful sinner like the Homosexual Speaker. Read Ist and 2nd Samuel. The story on David... his journey with Christ.
@@KeiaJohn4-15 but the bible teaches that we should not live a life with sin.. actually Jesus say that who ever commits sin is a slave to sin. But whom the son set free from sin has been set free from sin indeed ..
www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?t=nasb&strongs=g1067 The original word for hell used in scripture was referring to a place outside of Jerusalem known as Gehenna. This place was a constantly burning pit, this is a historical fact and over the ages it was also used as a figurative description for life devoid of God. Now with English connotations the word is mistaken for a literal place of eternal torment. There is no scriptural precedent for a literal hell. Stop telling people they're going to burn, this is not God's message. God's message is a message of hope and forgiveness. The punishment of disobedience is simply to live and die.
The reason why she said she feels like her sexuality defines who she is and it's not just a feeling. Is bc it's not just a feeling. It's a SPIRIT. And one that decieves. She thinks she has a safe space and a community. But if she got saved those in that community would not welcome her anymore. It's all an illusion.
Isnt the same with you guys. Actually its worse, you people abuse beat make them suffer even kill when they say they dont like the opposite gender. So sure she wont get a community after she gets "saved" but atleast she doesnt die. Beside the need of a safe community is because you religious folks are living trash. ;)
@@ozurking4748 all Christians are NOT the same. REAL Christians would accept not those fakes because God preaches kindness NOT violence. Lastly, those rude labels dont apply to all Christians so please be specific because there are SOME people who do it but not all. Period. God bless
Even as young as kindergarten, I have memories of liking guys, never girls. Like have never had any sexual or romantic feelings towards girls, as young as 13 I tried everything to ignore that part of me, I even just straight up lied about having crushes on girls, I had a girl best friend, someone I did love but in no more than a friend way, but I would tell everyone I liked her because well, every other guy I know likes girls, why can't I? It was never a choice for me, I would pray to god literally pray, ask, beg for him to take away my gay thoughts or just tell me why I am having these gay thoughts, I denied being gay up until I was about 15. 15 is when I really started doing research, exploring everything and developing my feelings and opinions, I started doing better when I finally decided to turn from christianity and religion in general. But homosexuality was never a choice for me, I hated myself, absolutely hated myself because of what I was, I judge myself and was so cruel over something I never had a choice in because I completely thought it was a choice. but it never was. I never chose to be gay, and for most of my life, if I did have the choice, I would of chosen not to be gay. I don't believe there are "ex-gays" just someone who was able to manipulate themselves enough to live in a complete fantasy. And I feel so sorry for those people because I know they suffered like I had.
I pray you come back to Jesus. It's so sad that a lot of Christians do not realize that their intolerance for other human beings is driving so many gay people away from the faith. I'm speaking as a gay Christian myself. I have been told I can't be both, that I'm "lukewarm", unbeknownst to them, I have never had the feeling of being lukewarm. I've had divine experiences with my Savior, unrelated to my sexuality. If any person or ideology separates you from our Lord Jesus Christ, they are NOT from God! Why a lot of Christians aren't rejoicing that gay people want to be part of the church and share their experiences will always be a mystery to me. God bless you.
@@nicholasguzman5560 you’ll be happy to find out I have slowly been making my way back into my faith, my boyfriend lives in a very small farm-town and going to church is a big thing in his family. (His last name is even Bethlehem haha) I have been extremely happy with him and have accompanied him to church a few times, we are in one of the more “hateful”‘denominations, lutheran, but we have a community that accepts us. I am still not super deep in faith, I don’t pray and I don’t attend church other than holidays, but I am healing. My boyfriend has been a big part of my healing process, and I am very fortunate to have him some people in the church were a bit weary of us at first, we also have a large age gap, but we have volunteered at events and socialized in some gatherings and now they’re all friendly towards us for the most part.
I’m lesbian and God tells me I’m who he created me to be. He is the one who formed me in the womb and he formed my brain. He knew who I was gonna be before i even existed in first place . No one has the right to tell me God is lying to me.
This Christian girl gave better answers than a lot of pastors that are afraid to offend people and don’t tell them the truth as it is written in the Bible.
Probably because straight people in this scenario are usually conscious that they're going to come across as uninformed and judgmental. Gay people have a lived experience so people are more likely to receive their words with grace. You see the same thing when white people speak about racial equality, men speak about women's rights, and rich people talk about economics. I wish it wasn't that way...
No she didn’t she pushed misinformation and went against the top command of Christ. She didn’t tell truth. Ppl like you. Pushing igotry pushes ppl away from Christ
@@beetlebugball THIS! Someone being heterosexual, respectfully, will never have the capacity to understand a topic like this in it's full reality. And because it's scientifically proven you cannot change your sexuality, I question when an "ex-gay" pastor preaches about this topic. A pastor that understands they are still gay is a pastor for this conversation, but unfortunately, most churches won't ordain gay pastors.
I think it's because even though the Christian woman disagrees with the other woman, she is still showing that she understands and can relate to her. It's teaching me something that if I want to reach someone's heart to share the gospel, I need to find common ground with that person and show that I can understand and relate to them and even though I do relate and understand, I still choose Jesus because it is right and He is the truth.
Christians are called to love. If we did not love you we would not preach the gospel because we want you to go to hell. We dont want that, we want God to be glorified in the salvation of sinners. We are all equally wicked and evil. That's what makes Jesus gift of grace so amazing, we don't deserve it but he gives it to us who believe.
@@juandrefourie8572 why try to stop people from going to hell if that's where you believe God is sending them. Do you disagree with your God? He is just in sending people to hell or isn't he? If your God doesn't want to send people to hell why can't he do that himself? If he does it himself what's the point of spreading the gospel? How many Chinese and Indians are going to hell compared to Americans? Is that just? You ever even consider these things.
Jeremiah 17:9 (The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately sick; who can understand it?) = Psalm 73:26 (My flesh and my heart may fail, but God is the strength of my heart and my portion forever.)
@Mason Moore Jesus rose from the dead after proclaiming he was the Son of God, enough proof for me. Jesus talked of future false prophets, you will know when its Him, He will be roaring like a lion. God is different because it has much more physical edvidence, indcluding hinting at a round Earth and saying it multiple times, plus, proof is the change in people that you can see when they are saved. Who wrote the book you ask, the disciples and others through the Holy Spirit, I can go deeper into it if you want. THIS Holy Book is the truth and see the proof I mentioned above.
Sin is Sin. My premarital, heterosexual sex, before I was married, was just as much a sin as homosexuality. I have much disdain for those who live in glass houses, yet throw stones. I pray that we will all find God. In my opinion, we all need him greatly and infinitely.
I agree with you I I'm gay and I used to go to Christian Church and I lived not good was in the closet and had self hate on my self and I always thought it was wrong or I was going to hell now I live more better I came out two years ago and would say I'm happy and more healthy love you LGBTQ community 🏳️🌈
@@matchau.u885 There is no single gay gene, but science unanimously proves that sexuality is rooted in biology and cannot be forcibly changed, although natural sexual fluidity due to biological factors can change a person's sexuality
This whole comment section is filled with Christians, but praise the lgdbq queen she was as calm and was also give out the same amount the Christian woman was saying, so just saying give her pride to not just the Christian women
We are praying for the LGBT woman, that she can know that her Creator, who is also the Creator of all things, loves her very much, and made it so her relationship with Him could be reconciled. Also, that she can know who she was actually created to be.
@@anabelbarnes3524 No she wasn't. Also, I believe her Creator's words (which are in the Holy Bible) over yours, considering you didn't create her, nor did you create the universe. Those who don't want to accept the truth will finally understand it in the end, when it's far too late for salvation from sins. God is giving us the chance right now to chose eternal life. God left the choice to accept His gift of salvation up to us.
It’s sad to see so many people in these comments let their faith excuse their bigotry and hatred for people who are different than them. God does not permit any of you to spew hatred and categorize it as promoting and sharing his “true” words.
Isaiah 5:20 Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter. It’s not hatred to help people out of sin. It’s love
@@mdh1048 44 As for your male and female slaves whom you may have: you may buy male and female slaves from among the nations that are around you. 45 You may also buy from among the strangers who sojourn with you and their clans that are with you, who have been born in your land, and they may be your property. 46 You may bequeath them to your sons after you to inherit as a possession forever. You may make slaves of them, but over your brothers the people of Israel you shall not rule, one over another ruthlessly. Leviticus 25:44-46 look i can quote verses too
@@mdh1048 OMG how many times do christian use this tactic. They always talk about the debt slaves when it comes to the topic of slavery in scripture. That type of slavery is only for fellow Israelite's, the foreign slaves did not get the same treatment.
I know it’s so much about thy self. Sexuality shouldn’t not define anyone and when we are disconnected from our Source which is God sent Christ so we can be save and restored to who we were from the beginning... if we are disconnected from him we live life by our own desires. The woman who is still a lesbian and an activist has made her community her source of wisdom and knowledge. I no longer go based of my feelings for Before Christ I was just in my feelings, which excused my behavior as to why I would do what I did.... now The Holy Spirit is inside me and it disciplines me very gently to realize when I’m in the wrong and thinking like I’m in this world when really He lives in Me.
@@SR-zc6lk people can’t just change their sexuality :’) I’m a heterosexual female and I can just decide to like girls- that’s really not how sexuality works.
The amount that she talks about feelings is just showing how she is 100% in the flesh. And this Christian girl is straight speaking truth! And she is lovingly delivering it too 🙌🏻
You don’t need an exorcist to rid yourself of a demon. Jesus’ name can do that for you. Also, because the girl who gay isn’t dead to herself is why she is LIVING by her feelings. The girl who is “Ex Gay” is talking about how, yes, she has feelings for something opposite of what the word of God says but she is dead to herself and the spirit now lives through her so she does not act out of feelings or live from a place of feelings anymore. She is living and walking out of the word instead of just living by her own thoughts and feelings. We are here for much more than ourselves and she is willing to put her own desires aside to live the way God has planned for her.
@Comet Dove your feelings can either be influenced by goodness / righteous thoughts and actions emplanted by a relationship with the holy spirit and the word of God or they can be driven by your flesh.
I personally was delivered from homosexuality! These are demons of lust and perversion that Jesus personally delivered me from. I thought I was born that way, and the lies being told in the education systems perpetuated my belief. I lived with these beliefs until my mid 20s . The demons were transferred through my dad when I was a toddler. Eventually the power and control of these demons over my life got SO bad, I was suicidal, cutting, relationships were a mess, I had panick attacks to the extreme, drugs, drugs, and more drugs... And these demons had a tight grip on me that made me feel like I couldn't breathe! I cried out with every bit of strength I had, and said, "I'm sorry for lust, Jesus please pray for me!!!", and just like that, Jesus interceded for me and immediately that demon left me! Immediately my mind and thoughts and heart and emotions and the way I saw everything and everyone around me since changed completely!!! It honestly shocked me! That demon had gotten so powerful that this demon was actually looking through my own eyes and had been distorting my perception for SO LONG! MY GOD, HALLELUJAH! THANK YOU JESUS FOR DELIVERING ME!!! Jesus loves us!!! That's why he wants us free from sin that only brings death and destruction, and especially this particular kind, brings so much destruction and death; just the life threatening diseases and the inability to procreate through homosexuality should tell you something(Satan comes to steal kill and destroy). BUT God doesn't want things for us that destroy us! His designs are bursting with life!!! HALLELUJAH!!!
Wow thank you so much for this! I too, had an encounter with God and healing from this. I have to say, asking Jesus to pray for you really puzzled me for a half of a second and the human in me went "wait you cant do that that's not how that works" which was immediately followed by "wait why not Jesus is real and His prayer would absolutely work and I'm going to do that from now on!" I was seeking a word from God tonight and I just found it! I love this new thought!
@@madeleineotten I'm Glad! The bible does say that Jesus interceded on our behalf! But at the time I was so broken down and didn't know how to pray. It was simply out of complete desperation and a feeling of powerlessness. But it worked! And I know for sure that Jesus' intersession and prayer is the most powerful! I mean he's the king of kings!😁 but I've come a long way since then and have learned a lot about prayer warfare... I really appreciate your comment and I'm so glad that God has worked in both our lives! Now that I have the Lord, I never want to be far from him, he is the best love and the best friend you could ever have! I love Jesus so much! Blessings to you Mattie! And happy thanksgiving! 😊
I was delivered from transgender. When I thought I was trans I was NOT born like that, I was jealous of my brother's ability to take off shirts to cool off and grow bigger muscles. But God led my brothers to do sports and leave their workout equipment. I ended up with bigger muscles then them and after running a ton got better resistance to the heat.
I feel so sorry for the christian girl. Trying to conform to those ideologies. I would never want to loose myself like that in anything. She's like a well trained missionary. Her words arent even her own anymore
We can get lost in our own thoughts, in our own insecurities, and our own failures. We do it every day. Can you not see that there could be more to life than just what is merely physical?
Jack Jones well I wish they would trust The Lord, but I mean yeah, if you try and find your identity any where but Christ, you'll never be truly fulfilled, or find true joy and happiness!!!🙂🙂
despite the christian woman's politeness, what she is saying is still very hateful and oppressive. sexual orientation is a natural part of a human being's identity, something you can't change much like skin color. just because your religion says "god says not to do that" does not mean you are morally correct and does not mean you should oppose that on other people. the bible also says its wrong to wear mixed fabrics but no one cares at all. has this woman ever once considered that her religion might not be the correct one? are there not many very different religions who all claim they are the one correct one? this woman clearly has a lot of self hatred ingrained in her from the society she was brought up in, which is very sad, and that fear has consumed her to the point of perpetuating that hate not only upon herself but also on others. sad.
Hey, N! I believe her point was that God is the one who made morals in the first place. Yes, every human being sees differently, and we cannot all be correct. There are disagreements in every topic, but the one who made everything should surely be the one who has the final say, whether or not we agree with it. I once saw from your view as well. And so did the Christian woman! She was actively gay! But you ask how do we know that this religion is the “right one?” By how it changed her life. She once saw from the LGBTQ activist’s point of view, but something in her, in the person she was born, CHANGED! Thats how we can see it. Also, just to clarify the mixed clothing issue: Contrary to what many believe, we don’t just “pick and choose” what suits us. For example, life would have been so much easier for the Christian woman here had she ignored the verses on homosexuality. But she didn’t. The Bible does say not to wear mixed clothing, not to have multiple types of crops in one field, not to eat pork... But these things represented something temporary. These rules were set in place to separate God’s people from those around them in that time period by how they lived. This represented the separation between God and man, because of our sin. But then after God sent Jesus to take the punishment for humankind’s sin, the “separation” between God and man was gone. Therefore, there was no need for God’s people to “live separately.” Multiple times in the New Testament you will find that it was then proclaimed that these “separating rules” no longer applied. However, some rules which were not a part of this group remained. Living a homosexual lifestyle is listed in here. But it doesn’t end there. I, too, once identified as LGBTQ+. Or, more specifically, pansexual. But it was when God brought me to realize that I needed to turn from living that way and instead live for Him that my life changed. Was i “born that way?” Sure, maybe. But I was born again! Spiritually, that is. In other words, I no longer struggle with wanting to “chase after” every attractive person I meet because I realize that I was made to find fulfillment in chasing God instead, just like the Christian woman in this video! Please understand that I am not trying to “push my religion” on you. Rather, I am hoping to share with you something that changed my life- the realization that God’s never ending love is so much better than any love this world has to offer.
@@hannahhillig9970 do you really think only religious people can have morals?? basic human empathy? its funny you insinuate that because www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/06/religious-children-less-altruistic-secular-kids-study
Really dig the fact that you two are willing to sit down and discuss this issue. Dialogue like this is much needed. I, too, felt homosexual tendencies as a young girl. Came out in a lesbian bar in DC at the age of 15. Lived in Los Angeles for 20 years...been there... What I found is that the issue of IDENTITY is at the very core of LGBTQ+. Something clicks and we "identify" with it. It makes us feel accepted, wanted, free - and like we "found who we are". But it is a false identity that eventually fails us. Here's my story: As one redeemed and set free from nearly 30 years of homosexuality, (and near trans) I absolutely concur that no one can change their sexual orientation. Modify the behavior, perhaps. But true transformation? That is something only the Holy Spirit can do. I say this as one who never thought it possible to "change" and never really wanted to. I was convinced we had it wrong and that some people were just born gay. But I loved the Lord and wanted to be certain I had it right. So I went on a journey to find answers. No one forced me. I made my own choices. Scripture says we are to be "transformed by the renewing of our minds." The mental renewal occurs when one realizes the new and true IDENTITY that they have as a believer. Identity is not what you feel, not what you think, and not what you do. It is something inherited when you become a new creation in Christ. Sadly, many in the gay lifestyle (and Christians in general) have no clue about their new identities or what that means when it comes to overcoming any life-long inclinations or habits. To be sure, the process is not one that happens overnight, nor is it one that happens completely absent of temptation. However, that time does come. Many (not all) people who have gone through "ex-gay" ministries, counseling, conversion therapy, etc. are relying on methods, programs and antidotes that lean heavily on will power and "self-help". Hence, the reason for failure. I agree that these organizations and methods will almost always fail (as we are hearing and seeing), leaving people feeling hopeless, convinced of lies that they can never change, and their faith often becomes shipwrecked. I, for one, did not go through any "ex-gay" ministry...no "deliverance" ministry or conversion therapy (of which I am staunchly opposed to), and no counseling. I simply pressed into the Lord and His word...and no, the journey was not an overnight, instantaneous change. But it was and is solid. And I am a free woman, with no desire to return to homosexuality and no interest in women. So much for me thinking I was "born that way". The lie of the gay identity (leading to a false label) is at the core of the gay lifestyle. It is the beginning (or end) to freedom. And yes, people can be born with impure and immoral sexual desires, so being "born that way" is not entirely false. That should be no surprise as we are all born into sin. However, Jesus came to set us free and break the strongholds in our lives. That's what He does. And, He is still doing. God bless.
I too questioned my sexuality as a young teen...realizing now that back then I was not walking with God therefore easily lead astray into fleshy desires and anything that did not glorify God but glorifyied myself. naturally I thought the world revolved around me so I made excuses for my choices and behavior. Now I understand why we cant rely on ourselves only, because we r not equipped to deal with the kind of pressures and evilness that the devil loves to pile on us...making us hate and doubt ourselves. I understand now that if I wana see God one day, I wana be a shiny new penny all cleaned up and pure to be presented to the Lord. No one wants to be given an old beat up gift. Certainly not giving God my sinful heart, He gets me restored and renewed thanks be to Jesus.
am i the only one who feels bad for emily? i think that what she was learning from that bible study is invalidating how she feels. just talking about it she looks like she’s on the verge of tears. it’s confusing
No it seems that she does acknowledge her feelings but chooses not to act on them. When asked if the desire is still there, she says that it comes and goes and some days its hard. So she is not in denial of her feelings nor are her feelings invalidated. But she doesnt let her feelings control or define her, but rather let God take control because He knows best
You sound like a pervert. Not everything needs to be aboit sex. Stop watching porn. Jesus said a lot more than just loving everyone. He talked with men and women alike. He is the Son of God.
Are you born holy ? Are you born an adulterer ? Are you born fornicator. No. We are all born sinners , everyone who repents and live after God's word will live.
Tala Habern We’ve all sinned and fallen short of the Glory Of God. We’ve lied, stolen, blasphemed the name of God, lusted, etc. That is why He came down to earth as a human and died for all our sins and got the punishment we deserved so we wouldn’t have to go to hell and be eternally separated from Him. Now all we have to do is repent of our sins, turn away from it, and trust in Christ
I gay nothing is wrong or sinful about that because I don't believe in god so stop saying it's sinful because not everyone belives in a dusty old book and a man with a big gray beard
were you born heterosexual? yes? then people can also be born homosexual. the ignorance is unreal. in what world does homosexuality = fornication lolll
@@gukas.1338 sure. I wrote this post long ago. I came off the fence to this belief many years ago, and had many arguments about it back then. Since then I've given people the opportunity to sway my opinion but no one has yet so it's kind of something I've come to accept and don't think about too much anymore (since it's been tested a lot by me opening up my position to pushback). so, that said, that's why this post is old. I'm sorry if the links don't work but I think the argument is still sound. And I can find working links to back up a certain point I made if you want. venetianblossom.tumblr.com/post/155737504692/how-harm-principle-and-divine-command-theory
@@gukas.1338 also, im aware the post is very free-form writing. don't expect research paper quality lol. my tumblr is more of a private diary my friends and family don't know about where I just write down all my strong beliefs and epiphanies on things when I feel the need to. and sometimes when someone like yourself asks me something about the topics ive written about, I can revert back to these and my line of reasoning.
The common theme in all of the discussions on this channel is that one person submits to God’s standard while the other looks within themselves for a standard.
@@onyi7713 the point if that if you don't have an objective standard then you live in a worldview of obscurity that is made up of subjective morality. Meaning that an individual can personally justify any kind of behavior, including you. So a person that doesn't refrence God's word (objective truth) has no basis for truth in a world of complete subjectivity. Its a world of chaos.
@@lifeoftoast1864 again, non-religious people don’t see God’s words as objective. You can see it that way and that’s completely fine but the fact that it is your belief and opinion makes it subjective. At least that’s what I think, don’t force your views on other people
YES!!! What a wonderful example of how people with Totally opposing Beliefs can DIALOGUE not accuse or badger. I am So Incredibly Encouraged by this video man foreal (YES, I'm a Christian, I work at killing this Flesh Every Single Day- and by the Power and Strength of the Holy Spirit HE Keeps and Helps me do so. Thru the BLOOD of Jesus, our sins are All forgiven. I can go on & on bc God is Good. GREAT even). But man this here was cool. Blessings and Love to BOTH of Them!!! 🙏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
truthfully i feel bad for the christian girl, i wish she didn’t have to give up that part of herself in the name of god or the bible. i imagine it’s hard for her to be in a straight relationship when she knows deep down she has feelings for women. i hope one day she is able to free herself from shame and is able to love god as well as herself and her feelings. she seems like a genuinely caring and loving person, i do hope in the future she is able to finally be herself and no longer repress herself. i hate that people think one can only have one or the other, people should be able to love and respect any god they want while still being true to themselves and be fully happy as they want to be.
Tala Habern your such a toxic atheist troll lmao keep trying your lucky I’m the only person who replies to you. High schooler lgbt mindset gets us nowhere
Tala Habern different opinion equals homophobic lol but feelings without research aka lgbt count as fact Nevermind bruh just do you. You will never find the light is my final thought to you. I think your just trolling since you reply to everyone with a subjective opinion of yours lol what a waste.
Tala Habern you comment on every single Christian video lol pretty delusional for someone who don’t believe in Jesus lol 😂 you won’t see me on nihilistic tendencies or lgbt crusaders. Your actually very close minded for the people who support lgbt but want to leave that toxic immoral lifestyle because a large chunk or your own group doesn’t want to Be gay lol😂 your probably not even 18 yet 🤣🤣
I love how they both respect each other. Living in a world where people would rather yell at each other then sit down and have a calm debate-makes me sad. But this conversation was nice. I enjoyed it
the comments are so cringy, why are you guys praising the christian girl for acting how shes supposed act as a christian. this isnt crazy ,there are many like her but yall act like shes a different species of christian. that's just sad.too many stereotypes and christianophobia here smh.😐😪😒
many don’t know that it is actually evil spirit and spiritual things many Christian dun know.. healing and deliverance many dun know. Only Jesus Christ can cast out for them. Repent
Amen! I was delivered from homosexuality. Jesus himself revealed to me I had a demon of lust and perversion, it was so powerful in its control over me and overwhelming, that I couldn't even pray, so I cried out, "Jesus forgive me for lust, please pray for me", and just like that, it was gone and my mind and heart and the way I saw people changed! It was incredible power and grace! Thank you Lord Jesus!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HALLELUJAH!
@@keh-dalia809 Praise God. I've been looking for this explanation since I heard it from watching Sam on the United twelve yt channel. He went through the same thing. I just want to know how to support and encourage my loved ones (that have lived a gay lifestyle for so long) who struggle with their loneliness physically but are trying to follow YHWH's way.
@@taizachvrchwhite735 if someone is fully delivered, they won't be having sexual desires for the same sex and when someone has fully submitted the flesh to the holy spirit, they won't be controlled by sexual desires period. When you put your love in God first and keep pressing inn, all loneliness desolves, because there is no greater love or friendship than the love and friendship found with Jesus and the one true living God and father! This narrow road of salvation can be very difficult, BUT it is the most rewarding, most beautiful, and most amazing journey walking with God.. and the more one walks with God, the more you'll wonder why you needed anything else, because truly God is the only one who can complete us, fill us with love, and make us whole, healed, and new. I myself struggle from time to time because I'd like to find a husband, but these are dark times and it's hard to find anyone with the real love of God in their hearts, so it's all the more reason to stick close to the Lord, more now than ever!!! HALLELUJAH, God's truly the source of everything we need! God bless you Taiza!
Gordon Aufill without God you cant make sense of anything, you posted your comment knowing that it will mean the same thing later. Without God you account for these types of absolutes, like logic, uniformity of nature absolute truth. Outside of God (invisible friend) how do you justify absolute truth?
-@@eurekampangane7589 oh... Whoops. I'm just so sick of trying to bring people to Jesus when they don't want to in the first place. My energy is wearing thin. People are heartless, Jesus is not. I get what you are saying though.
Nobody chooses who they're attracted to. Consensual same-gender romantic and/or sexual relationships harm absolutely no one. Why the fuck is this still an issue for some people?
The issue here is not feeling attracted to people of the same sex. What we believe is against God's design, as bible-believing Christians, is when someone chooses to dwell on those thoughts or act upon them. Although, it may seem impossible to resist to our desires from a human standpoint, with God, it becomes possible.
@@arbretree5463 Nothing wrong with that either. Nobody gets hurt when two men or two women hold hands, or kiss, or move in together, or fuck. If your god's "design" requires for these people to arbitrarily not do any of those things, it's a shitty design.
@@arbretree5463 no one asked you to be homophobic in the name of your beliefs✌also you have to acknowledge that some people do not believe in a god or divine being and never will. I'm no Christian but you being a Christian doesn't bother me. I don't believe in what you believe (similar to how you don't agree with gay marriage) but I wouldn't call you wretched or wish you off the planet because of any of my morals.
@@stasiroo I am very well aware of that. I was just trying to explain why some people still believe homosexuality should not be normalised even though "nobody chooses who they're attracted to". I really appreciate that you respect Christians although you disagree with their beliefs. I do the same for those who identify as homosexuals. That is exactly how things should be. We should all be able to respectfully disagree.
I find it interesting that the Christian woman admitted she still struggles with attraction towards other women even now that she’s married and she even said that marriage has “helped” her a lot in not giving into her feelings. She didn’t seem very happy idk. It just sucks that religion can make you suppress that side of yourself out of fear that you’ll be dammed forever.
yeah as a christian myself, it is a hard conflicting thing to deal with. i struggle with same sex attraction and it’s really hard to tell people this with the feeling of being misunderstood or shunned. i don’t think there’s a lot of christians who understand the weight of dealing with such shame hoping the feeling would just go away so i can please God, the feeling literally lives inside of me. i love God and i love Jesus and i understand the things i read about but i don’t think christians really understand the struggle of sexuality, idk where i’m going with this
I appreciate these discussions. No hatred. No judgement. Acceptance. It would be awesome if we could all express and share our beliefs and opinions in this manner.
What I learned from this is I’ll keep being with my girl whether people think it’s a sin or not. I’m happy, she’s happy. We try to be the best versions of ourselves and scripture doesn’t change that
@The RABBIT That's not the issue i'm adressing. Yes I understand people have their own beliefs and points of view, however the issue here is the some people have the nerve to believe that suddenly people will become straight. They are making it seem like its our choice to choose who we fall in love with. There are plenty of messed up comments underneath. @UCmptjlQy55WyBZDMy-oP3TA
@The RABBIT Ok so imagine you falling in love with your bff over time who happens to be the same gender as you. Its wasn't your choice really because you spend years knowing this person and you fell in love with them over time naturally. The choice you really have is to either act on it or not.
@The RABBIT Happy Thanksgiving🍁 i’m not sure what this argument is about. I do not understand what stand you are taking. We keep hopping from one argument to another.
How is she an ex- gay You can’t take your feelings away at all She’s a gay Christian she just won’t say it because Your feelings can’t go away Also the gay activist is so pretty my gayness is showing I swear
The Christian was sooooo relaxed. She directed all her answers back to Jesus Christ. She gave Bible verses to direct the lesbian. The lesbian was left with this is how I feel. Team Christians won... hint hint Jesus Christ will always win.😉
Whatever you say. That attitude is why most non-Christians dont want to go to heaven because the majority of you are just obnoxious. Apart from The Bible being objectively untrue.
Bible versus are completely useless in any argument unless u have somehow found proof that god exists (which I’ll save u some time, there is none) or proof that your god created this man written book
Except with jubilee all the similar thinking guests just hype each other up. Because this is one-on-one it forces each person to actually think fully and articulate their own thoughts
Miss Lee yeah and that’s great but it’s the fact that they copied everything about the setup of it, from the prompts all the way to the thumbnail. it’s just weird imo
It makes me upset seeing all these judgmental comments from “Christians”. I’m Christian but I don’t see the point in being hateful towards those who have different views as me. Why pick a fight? Seeing these two girls speak really makes me happy because a seed was planted. God takes care of the rest but there’s no point to spread hate towards the other lady.
Me watching this and being lowkey scared of the comments cause I'm Queer and a Christian 👁👄👁 Ready to get dragged by both communities here (mainly the ever-so-loving Christian one) ✌😗 Come at me fam, cause Jesus is my rock which means you can't shake me. Love you. Galations 3:28
@@angie2989 Sorry, i thought this was a comment section, not a spelling contest. But as a norwegian where english is my secoundary language, i`m curious. How many norwegian words do you know?
I applaud the lgbtq woman for being brave enough to express herself as her whole self unapologetically on a channel such as this where there is only one perceived correct way of thinking that is being pushed
I love this Gay lady she is one of the few that actually pays attention and isn't always trying to tackle back . I respect that. I also love the Christian lady. She is wise and woke.
please remember that when you say you value god over someone’s beliefs, you’re talking to a person who cannot change their sexuality. You’re saying that your interpretation of the bible (that you don’t even know is correct) is more important than someone’s entire self. you may not feel that way when you say it, but as a gay person that’s exactly what I hear.
Christianity is a choice and they always want to be respected for it, why can't that be the same with homosexuality? The only difference is that we don't choose our sexual orientation lol
i agree that you cannot choose who you're attracted to, but you can choose to follow God's design of who you should be or be with. i also agree that Christianity is a choice, because we are given free will by the Lord. we can choose to be Christian or otherwise. as a Christian, i respect the LGBTQ+, but there are also gay Christians who choose to follow God. the sad part is, progressive gays automatically label gay Christians as brainwashed sheeple. but gay Christians like the woman in this video actually had agency and used her free will to follow what the Lord says.
Thank you for watching Honest Discourse. We are so thankful to bring people with differing perspectives together for meaningful conversations. As the discussions continue in the comments, we encourage you to engage kindly. The spirit of this format is “discuss, don’t demonize.”
I was wondering why there were only christians in the comments. Just realised this was a christian channel, not Jubilee. 💀
Vince well since you are here......Jesus Loves you and wants to forgive you of your sins, accept the free gift of Grace and eternal Life by accepting Jesus as Lord & Savior! Thx:)
Ahaha aha same didn’t notice that until i read your comment lol
@@jesussaves2131 You do know some people have different religions!
Niall Horan I agree (and they have the right to) but there can only be one absolute truth, and thats Jesus The Truth The Way The Life, this was Jesus' claim, no other "religions" claim this.
Lmbo! Didn't notice either guess they got the competition coming
Thank you for getting a Christian who was also gay, it would have been so lopsided had she not been gay. I really liked the respect for each other
Brayden Dukes
You can’t have a gay Christian.
You can have a blasphemous person that’s gay, but homosexuality and Christianity doesn’t mix.
Scripture is quite upfront and direct about how God feels about homosexuality.
Long Tall totally agree
Long Tall WAS
Brayden Dukes this Christian used to be gay,as in changed.
@@olglory4648 they said "was gay" as in past tense.
I really admire this Christian girl. Her responses are full of understanding and grace, and she seems very grounded in her beliefs so much so that she can say exactly what she believes without looking embarrassed for it or having to beat around the bush. That's where I would like to be in my faith..
You can reach that point, we all can if we pray and ask Jesus, and grow in Him. "Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you." - Matthew 7:7
@@raquelsimoes7369 thank you, you're absolutely right!
shes talking about it like its a cult though
Roman Rendon How is she talking about it like it is a cult? I am new in my walk and relationship with Jesus Christ, as well as our Heavenly Father. I have been to a church where I’ve felt as if they were a cult, but churches don’t even teach the Bible fully anymore so I can’t really base anything about Christianity off of that. I thought that the Christian woman in this video was speaking pure scripture and backing it up with valid points. I am wondering why you believe she’s speaking about it like she’s from a cult because I feel I may be missing something
@@romanrendon6059 hahaha i feel like you are being petty
“I’d rather much look to a Creator, perfect God than myself for truth.”
That’s powerful!
That's so interesting, I percieved that as sad. Not allowing yourself to be what you are.
@Angelo Gomez says who
@Angelo Gomez Wow, how Christian of you to call random people on the internet fools. I guess you skipped some lessons. 😂
@Angelo Gomez so you are God now?
@Angelo Gomez ditto
I commend these two for being very respectful towards each other. They are also both very intelligent and beautiful
Except the elephant in the room is one delights in her sin and opens a portal for all sorts of demons to cause chaos in this world.
@@awakenedone7577 you talking about the gay ik my man
@@awakenedone7577 And these are the people christ died for.He died for people like me and you.He died for people,all of them.
@@antcross8623 No, Jesus didn't die for us so that people could keep on living sinful lifestyles, he died so that they could receive forgiveness for their sins and repent, it was never a licence to sin. Furthermore here's what the Bible says:
1 Corinthians 6:9-11
_Don’t you know that people who are unjust won’t inherit God’s kingdom? Don’t be deceived. Those who are sexually immoral, those who worship false gods, adulterers, _*_both participants in same-sex intercourse,_*_ thieves, the greedy, drunks, abusive people, and swindlers won’t inherit God’s kingdom. That is what some of you used to be! But you were washed clean, you were made holy to God, and you were made right with God in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God._
@@awakenedone7577 great points guys, I would encourage you to look at the context of Paul's letter to the church in corinth. There is always context, culture and history involved. I've been reflecting on how Jesus approaches the woman (and man) caught in adultry in John 8. I think he encompasses this entire debate in how he handles this situation. May the peace of God, which transcends all understanding, guard your hearts and minds in Christ Jesus ✌
That's what I call a christian! a person who actually knows the scripture and doesn't say any facts without support.
Shouldn't they not be a Christian then?
1 Corinthians 6:9-11 Don’t you _know that people who are unjust won’t inherit God’s kingdom? Don’t be deceived. Those who are sexually immoral, those who worship false gods, adulterers, _*_both participants in same-sex intercourse,_*_ thieves, the greedy, drunks, abusive people, and swindlers won’t inherit God’s kingdom. That is what some of you used to be! But you were washed clean, you were made holy to God, and you were made right with God in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God._
I am a Bible believing Christians. I'm not just a fan of Jesus. I'm a follower. I wish all other so called Christians were the same but many of them choose to follow the wide path instead of the narrow one.
@pablo suarez even though, he was a jew (nationality), we are followers of Christ and believers in the bible. The jewish religion is based on waiting for the messiah, while Jesus was the messiah himself
@@strebicux6174 why? I don't think we should address ourself to a specific branch in christianity though. What about followers of Jesus Christ and believer in the bible. So many branches in Christianity incorporated new things not present in the bible.
It’s CRAZY how the Bible speaks about everything this world is going through now.
Ethan James the Bible. Is. Relevant.
So many people think it's outdated and full of rules. But it's so relevant and relatable!!
Emilee Grace the bible is life itself
That's why I truly believe we are living in the last days, and a lot of people need to start crying out to God through Jesus Christ!! The last days will be a bit more from today, but the bible really does tell us the events to come. God bless you!
April Holton 💯!
it’s His living word.. it will always be relevant :)
I’m so glad she’s a Christian that was delivered from homosexuality, and that she uses her testimony and the Holy scripture to answer the questions.
Praise God!!
Mrs. Nava amen
Mrs. Nava amen
Mrs. Nava it’s called idolatry it’s when you believe what you want to out of the Bible otherwise there’s no point to believe what’s written because then none of it is valid it’s sad people have these sinful desires and they try to justify it by blocking out and making their God warm and cuddly. It’s just not the case
@@itsmaze_2034 Believe what you want out of the Bible, huh? so do you support selling your Daughter as a sex slave as per Exodus 21:7-11? did you skip over that passage or maybe all the ones that condone polygamy unless you're an Elder? 1 Tim 3:2, Exodus 21:10. Selective morality is what you people believe while supporting discrimination.
@Delia Sandu Discrimination and bigotry are what is disgusting.
I’m so proud of the Christian woman for saying things completely as they are, without twisting or leaving anything out. That takes a lot of courage... thank god for her. I’m glad the gay woman was tolerant and respectful despite hearing some of the things that might have hurt or irritated her. Thank god for her too. Great discussion, nice and truthful!
Alina Grig I love how the Bible talks about the past and the future and that’s how we know it’s true and relevant
KD Mini Hoop well i mean your kindve gullible enough to believe everything that is figuratively spoon fed to you. The book of “God” the bible was written by humans. Most of it is most likely false and irrelevant to create rules and laws towards the people because of the lack of separation of church and state. Its sad you believe everything a person tells or teaches you.
Unpopular Opinions i went to a fucking private school and i actually did read a bible as well as studied it for 5 years and you should keep preaching about assumptions cause you literately just assumed i didn’t read it like a hypocrite. At least I’m smart enough to know whats biased and whats not. Just because I’m not a fan of whats in the bible doesn’t mean i haven’t studied it, but go assume all you want about me. It says more about you then it does about me
Unpopular Opinions cry about it. Your opinion isn’t popular for a reason, cry about it
Unpopular Opinions you cant even properly read or write do ill just assume you’re laughing at you’re own stupidity. That makes me laugh.
Wow the Christian girl
She like puts God before herself and not like selfish at all
Even as a Christian, I find that hard when it comes to big decisions
Lareze DB humility is key
The more you put God first, the easier it will come that you can do so. Especially, with big decisions. As humans, we tend to think we need to exert our own will on everything instead of following God's Will.
Lareze DB I agree hun
@@chelelinda6062 REALLY?! I never knew that😳
Imagine putting your imaginary friend before yourself...
There is no such thing as “ex” gay. You cannot change your sexuality, no matter how hard you try. You can repress, you can question, you can be unsure, you can be wrong about yourself. But ultimately you cannot help who you are attracted to and you cannot help who you love. Love yourself. Love others. God loves all.
Thank you. I’ve seen so many people saying how happy they were cause she’s been “saved”. It’s awful how people use Christianity to force people to change harmless things about themselves.
Finally, a comment I agree with
@@user-dp1dm8zn5c yes and I remember seeing in the comments a christian who "used to be bi" and they said that they weren't living for themselves but for God. It honestly just sounds so sad and it sounds so forced :(.
Say it louder for the people in the-Oh they in the front they just won’t budge-
@@user-dp1dm8zn5c she wasn't forced. The grace of God brought her to the light.
I see the comments have been flooded with Christians congratulating the Christian. Big up the LGBT Activist for speaking honestly
Ikr
PS I'm a Christian too but both parties spoke brilliantly
Scrolled way too long to find a comment like this. Wow. I'm a bit shocked
Yes!
As a Christian, I applaud her honesty, patience and listening to each and every word with understanding.
Wow. Emily (the Christian woman) has a true gift. She explains things so well in such a loving way and always brings it back to Christ. There is clear evidence of a fruitful relationship with Christ in her. This was such a tastefully made video and they were both so respectful. Loved it!
And we should go and do likewise.
No
@@shoe479 shut up
She wasn’t loving at all just because she was calm doesn’t mean she was loving she literally spewed bigotry& falsehoods the entire time In this video Emily demonstrated the exact opposite of the top command of Christ. Her exact attitude and you praising her for it just pushes people away from Christ in droves.
@@danielclingen34 I whole heartedly disagree. To me stating truth is not spewing bigotry. If there is a problem with what she is saying there is a problem with the Word of God which she clearly displays. Her calm demeanor wasn’t my source for my comment. She said everything based on her own experience and scripture, which if you are a true christian is the proper way to deliver scripture. With truth in love. (Ephesians 4:15) Speaking the truth (scripture) is speaking in love. I understand if you disagree, that was just my observation :) I appreciate your comment though.
Bro hats off to the ex gay Christian girl who literally represented Jesus in a graceful but truthful way🔥
Amen. A true praise report. All Glory to God.
Brainwashed like a fucking fool
Amen Uchiha Clan 🙏🏻
@@mzstephie Brainwashed is right...just like most of the anti-gay Christians commenting all over these threads.
@@j.n.3577 maybe both of you are the brainwashed ones.
I WAS BORN GAY BUT THAN JESUS CHRIST GAVE ME HIS SPIRIT AND NOW I AM BORN AGAIN WITH NEW DESIRES. JESUS CAN CHANGE US. THERE IS POWER IN HIS BLOOD.
-My Testimony.
Only Christian in my Home, Brothers and Sisters Pray for me. God Bless!
Praying
Amen! 🙏🏾
God is good!
Its the enemy planting thoughts in your head saying ‘you’re gay’,when your really not.
PuraSepaSaved thank God u are born again!
LGBT: I was born this way!
Christian: *Well, You need to be born again.*
Amen
🙏🙏🙏🙌🙌🙌
sexuality is fluid (especially among women) but never a choice, and reading a scripture doesn’t magically cure it. have you seen the success rate of religious based conversion therapy? its sick and this video almost insinuates it being effective. i think she was in a gay relationship, but is bisexual and always will be. she just made a conscious choice to practice heterosexuality because the idea of God consoled her.
@@camgotvaslee16 God will not call you to be straight, he will love you and transform you
You can’t.
I'm sorry but honestly listening to the LGBTQ activist really confused me. The Christian really seems to have a solid point of belief
Mark Howell-PaulAgain cause its pure truth! Truth has no lies and plot holes; all objective.
I agree. I feel like she was very hard to follow and she seemed to have a very fluid foundation.
They just speak and act based on feelings rather than sound logic and doctrine
Her “argument” was all over the place. Seemed like unorganized thoughts; a ramble.
Mark Howell-PaulAgain I felt the same way! 🤷🏻♀️
Wow that Christian woman was speaking the word of God, truth! Thank you Jesus
umm Jesus was not against your marrying another woman, ya clown
The last thoughts of the Christian woman 💭 "You may feel totally right doing something that is wrong. And the Creator would know, more than me or you" 😍 Well said
How is being gay wrong though? That doesn't prove any type of point on its own.
@@samuelforesta exactly😂
So how is being gay wrong??
us loving someone is wrong?
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They were so polite and understanding to each other.. so refreshing after a bunch of videos of people yelling at each other.
Tala Habern wow😕
You can’t count how may times the phrase “I feel, I felt” is said here...If you live on feelings alone, you would of killed a bad boss, disowned your teenage kids, got divorced multiple times and many other things that are based on feelings or emotions.... sometimes I don’t feel like working anymore but you know what I do??? I get my ass out of bed and provide for my family.... Feelings change...try doing what God has told you to do and see how your feelings change....Otherwise live in torment.....By the way, nobody is born gay, a liar, a thief, an adulterer, a murderer, they are all deeds of the devil.
How the hell is being gay and killing someone the same, and how is lying on the same level as adultery. What the hell bud. And doesn’t your bible say something about Jesus died for our sins? He died to forgive us, and you think loving someone you can’t produce a baby with is an unforgivable sin like cold blooded murder?
Stewart The Accountant great question.... If one guy breaks into your house and steals 50,000.... and one of your friends take 20 dollars from your wallet while you’re taking a shower.... what do you call them both? First off, thank you for your civil response, that’s rare these days.... it’s not my Bible, I didn’t write it I’m just quoting the content. I had a Christian women just 2 days ago ask me why do I judge we are not supposed to judge.... I asked her, how about I bring my really good friend over for dinner, he is really funny, and extremely intelligent. We will have dinner with you, your husband and your 2 small children.... I just want to inform you he is a pedophile and is extremely aroused by children.... but that won’t be a problem for you because you don’t judge? Being gay is a sin just as well as murder, stealing, lying, adultery and others... ask God to extend the mercy he offers and be free from that unnatural desire.....sorry this is painful, but Jesus died on the cross so that lust doesn’t have to control you!!! Don’t be mad, ask God to show you the truth like the girl in the video.....I am not saying you are gay, just a blanket statement to any desires that need to be overcome.
ironmiketodd was thinking the same thing
ironmiketodd : Do you “feel” attracted to the opposite gender? What if since your earliest memories you “felt” attracted to the same gender.
Kat Bos not sure what your question is?? Attraction lasts for how long?? Maybe till your wife is in her mid 50’s? Does a man look at his wife when she is 80 with the same “attraction” as when she was 20? Again feelings and attraction are temporary, so why let those temporary emotions rule your life????
You can’t just create an imaginary God to just go along with your worldview. Trusting in your feelings is very dangerous. Feelings can change by the minute. Gods word never changes
When we follow our hearts we feed the flesh but when we follow god we feed the spirit, which is good for the soul
Art Alvarez as sinful and imperfect creatures, we are inclined towards wrongdoing- listening to our own treacherous hearts and desires is a trap that will lead us astray from what God really wants us to do. We have to listen to what HE says and fight against our sinful tendencies
BERTRAM SCROGGINS I love this so much!
My pastor always reminds us that our feelings lie to us
Art Alvarez how boring are you at parties XD
From a Christian standpoint whenever the Word of God is presented it doesn’t return to Him void. The seeds of truth were planted by the Christian girl, and that is never in vain. God will honour this young lady because she has honoured Him. As for the other young lady, she has a decision to make whether to turn from her sin to Jesus OR reject Him and continue in her sin. The respect between the parties was wonderful both very pleasant and the testimony of the Christian girl was exceptionally encouraging.
Jesus said;
“Come unto me, all ye that labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.”
“Incline your ear, and come unto me: hear, and your soul shall live; and I will make an everlasting covenant with you......” Isaiah 55 vs 3
amen!
HeWhoHasTheSon AMEN!
Amen!!!
A.MEN!!Brother//sister I agree with you GOD bless you always.
Through her eyes you could really see the Holy Spirit working on that Asian lady. Hopefully she makes the wise choice.
Okay I hope I don't get backlash on this but being gay is not a choice. If you think that it is, be gay right now. Be attracted to the same gender/sex as yourself right now. See? It's not a choice. If you ARE able to be attracted to the same gender/sex like that, there's something you should know...
Just a question, can you explain how ppl choose to be Bisexual? Also, I’ll give you an example, why is it when men/women become incarcerated and have been straight all their lives then all of a sudden then become Gay when they enter jail. Is this based off of just sex/dominance or is there an actual attraction?
@@tylermasonheimer799 Thanks for responding! Like being gay, bisexuality is also not a choice. People who are bisexual have been their whole lives and always will be, even if they realize it later on in their lives. As for your example, I am by no means an expert, but I would say that people who have been incarcerated are traumatized individuals. While some may be gay, some may just need the comfort or what you said, sex/dominance of a same-sex couple. However, do not take my word for it. I am not an expert.
I don’t think its a choice. Being attracted to people is not a choice, but the choice is deciding to go along with it or reject it. Its like, as a heterosexual, being attracted to several guys but then choosing which one to be with. Or choosing none of them. As Christians I think it’s important we understand this. I hear people too often make it seem like you can just choose not to be gay. You definitely have to make choices against it if you do have that attraction but want to change it.
@@toraokami5178 Thank you for at least understanding that it cannot be a choice.
Thank you for getting a true believer, really showed the love of the God wow
pff the "love" of "God". Glad you had the sense, in spite of yourself, to state that she is MERELY a believer
What a honest conversation and both being respectful to each other.
So she's still a lesbian but chooses to surpress her feelings because she thinks she's wrong?
Yup... and she for some reason calls herself ex gay even though she is still gay
@@Bringon-dw8dx but she's not though.
It's about denying your flesh/worldly desires and allowing God to transform and renew your heart. Feelings fluctuate but God's word is never changing and eternal. Emily acknowledged that she doesn't let her feelings define her but instead allows God to direct and guide her.
@@micaylamccree5061 the definition of gay is attraction towards to opposite sex. You may not act on the attraction but you still have it. Aka gay
This is the comment supporting LGBTQ+ community you are looking for💜 Just know I support and love you. Dont ever let anyone tell you who you should be just be yourself and love whoever you want cause life is too short🧡
Thank you so much!!
Thanks but I'm still scared :)
@@zenadiscipulo3944 don’t be scared ! Be yourself, the world is changing and getting better in some aspects. Love whoever you want and be whoever you want to be!!!!
@@zenadiscipulo3944 you don’t have to be scared. With God’s help and strength you can turn from whatever sins or sinful desires you may have and turn to Him. All humans sinned against the perfect and just God, and are bound for an eternity in hell. But because God in His amazing grace sacrificed His own son for our sins, we can now spend an eternity with Him in heaven if we repent of our sin and run to God.
John 3:16
“For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life.”
BURN THE RAINBOW FLAG AND CALL THEM OUT FOR FALSE PROPHETS!!!!!!
The Christian speaker, has had an experience with God. That’s how you get to that point. True Relationship with the father, will open your eyes so wide... please people REPENT, Hell is real... ❤️ and so is Gods word
Faithful sinner are u a sinner. And why do you sin so faithfully
It’s not about perfection, You must be perfect... it’s about being Faithful to his Word. Sin is in OUR DNA. Am I perfect far from, do I sin... I do, because I’m Human. Only Christ can break the cycle. There’s a difference between being a Faithful sinner, like the Christian Speaker vs. being a Willful sinner like the Homosexual Speaker. Read Ist and 2nd Samuel. The story on David... his journey with Christ.
@@KeiaJohn4-15 but the bible teaches that we should not live a life with sin.. actually Jesus say that who ever commits sin is a slave to sin. But whom the son set free from sin has been set free from sin indeed ..
Amen!
www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?t=nasb&strongs=g1067
The original word for hell used in scripture was referring to a place outside of Jerusalem known as Gehenna. This place was a constantly burning pit, this is a historical fact and over the ages it was also used as a figurative description for life devoid of God. Now with English connotations the word is mistaken for a literal place of eternal torment. There is no scriptural precedent for a literal hell. Stop telling people they're going to burn, this is not God's message. God's message is a message of hope and forgiveness. The punishment of disobedience is simply to live and die.
This was so tastefully done!!! They got two individuals who represented their community in the best light!!!!!
What!? Some brainwashed, ignorant, loosely christian girl?
This is a Proverbs 31 woman if I’ve heard one!
Yeah she’s awesome
Period 💯
🤣...
The reason why she said she feels like her sexuality defines who she is and it's not just a feeling. Is bc it's not just a feeling. It's a SPIRIT. And one that decieves. She thinks she has a safe space and a community. But if she got saved those in that community would not welcome her anymore. It's all an illusion.
That's the truth!!
💯
Isnt the same with you guys. Actually its worse, you people abuse beat make them suffer even kill when they say they dont like the opposite gender. So sure she wont get a community after she gets "saved" but atleast she doesnt die. Beside the need of a safe community is because you religious folks are living trash. ;)
@@ozurking4748 all Christians are NOT the same. REAL Christians would accept not those fakes because God preaches kindness NOT violence. Lastly, those rude labels dont apply to all Christians so please be specific because there are SOME people who do it but not all. Period.
God bless
You sound like my papa Hahaha
Even as young as kindergarten, I have memories of liking guys, never girls. Like have never had any sexual or romantic feelings towards girls, as young as 13 I tried everything to ignore that part of me, I even just straight up lied about having crushes on girls, I had a girl best friend, someone I did love but in no more than a friend way, but I would tell everyone I liked her because well, every other guy I know likes girls, why can't I?
It was never a choice for me, I would pray to god literally pray, ask, beg for him to take away my gay thoughts or just tell me why I am having these gay thoughts, I denied being gay up until I was about 15. 15 is when I really started doing research, exploring everything and developing my feelings and opinions, I started doing better when I finally decided to turn from christianity and religion in general.
But homosexuality was never a choice for me, I hated myself, absolutely hated myself because of what I was, I judge myself and was so cruel over something I never had a choice in because I completely thought it was a choice. but it never was. I never chose to be gay, and for most of my life, if I did have the choice, I would of chosen not to be gay.
I don't believe there are "ex-gays" just someone who was able to manipulate themselves enough to live in a complete fantasy.
And I feel so sorry for those people because I know they suffered like I had.
May God bless you and keep you. Hope ya find a good husband and find a good church
I pray you come back to Jesus. It's so sad that a lot of Christians do not realize that their intolerance for other human beings is driving so many gay people away from the faith. I'm speaking as a gay Christian myself. I have been told I can't be both, that I'm "lukewarm", unbeknownst to them, I have never had the feeling of being lukewarm. I've had divine experiences with my Savior, unrelated to my sexuality. If any person or ideology separates you from our Lord Jesus Christ, they are NOT from God! Why a lot of Christians aren't rejoicing that gay people want to be part of the church and share their experiences will always be a mystery to me. God bless you.
@@nicholasguzman5560 you’ll be happy to find out I have slowly been making my way back into my faith, my boyfriend lives in a very small farm-town and going to church is a big thing in his family. (His last name is even Bethlehem haha) I have been extremely happy with him and have accompanied him to church a few times, we are in one of the more “hateful”‘denominations, lutheran, but we have a community that accepts us. I am still not super deep in faith, I don’t pray and I don’t attend church other than holidays, but I am healing. My boyfriend has been a big part of my healing process, and I am very fortunate to have him some people in the church were a bit weary of us at first, we also have a large age gap, but we have volunteered at events and socialized in some gatherings and now they’re all friendly towards us for the most part.
@@frogtownroad9104 thank you! I have replied to another comment here, I think you would enjoy reading it.
I’m lesbian and God tells me I’m who he created me to be. He is the one who formed me in the womb and he formed my brain. He knew who I was gonna be before i even existed in first place . No one has the right to tell me God is lying to me.
Cool, your God isn't the Christian one, that's all.
This Christian girl gave better answers than a lot of pastors that are afraid to offend people and don’t tell them the truth as it is written in the Bible.
Probably because straight people in this scenario are usually conscious that they're going to come across as uninformed and judgmental. Gay people have a lived experience so people are more likely to receive their words with grace. You see the same thing when white people speak about racial equality, men speak about women's rights, and rich people talk about economics. I wish it wasn't that way...
No she didn’t she pushed misinformation and went against the top command of Christ. She didn’t tell truth. Ppl like you. Pushing igotry pushes ppl away from Christ
"truth", ya brainwashed sap
@@beetlebugball THIS! Someone being heterosexual, respectfully, will never have the capacity to understand a topic like this in it's full reality. And because it's scientifically proven you cannot change your sexuality, I question when an "ex-gay" pastor preaches about this topic. A pastor that understands they are still gay is a pastor for this conversation, but unfortunately, most churches won't ordain gay pastors.
I was expecting a lot more hate to the Christian woman. I’m glad there isn’t, and I’m glad it wasn’t just me who respects them both.
I think it's because even though the Christian woman disagrees with the other woman, she is still showing that she understands and can relate to her. It's teaching me something that if I want to reach someone's heart to share the gospel, I need to find common ground with that person and show that I can understand and relate to them and even though I do relate and understand, I still choose Jesus because it is right and He is the truth.
You could not have said that better man.
Christians are called to love. If we did not love you we would not preach the gospel because we want you to go to hell. We dont want that, we want God to be glorified in the salvation of sinners. We are all equally wicked and evil. That's what makes Jesus gift of grace so amazing, we don't deserve it but he gives it to us who believe.
@@juandrefourie8572 why try to stop people from going to hell if that's where you believe God is sending them. Do you disagree with your God? He is just in sending people to hell or isn't he? If your God doesn't want to send people to hell why can't he do that himself? If he does it himself what's the point of spreading the gospel? How many Chinese and Indians are going to hell compared to Americans? Is that just? You ever even consider these things.
These comments are actually really positive, I love it
that's funny, tell me another joke.
Because most of them are from Christians.
Jeremiah 17:9 (The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately sick; who can understand it?) = Psalm 73:26 (My flesh and my heart may fail, but God is the strength of my heart and my portion forever.)
Amen!
@Mason Moore You can feel His presence if you truly believe. He guides and helps us.
Jesus was a real person btw.
@Mason Moore Jesus rose from the dead after proclaiming he was the Son of God, enough proof for me. Jesus talked of future false prophets, you will know when its Him, He will be roaring like a lion. God is different because it has much more physical edvidence, indcluding hinting at a round Earth and saying it multiple times, plus, proof is the change in people that you can see when they are saved. Who wrote the book you ask, the disciples and others through the Holy Spirit, I can go deeper into it if you want. THIS Holy Book is the truth and see the proof I mentioned above.
Sin is Sin. My premarital, heterosexual sex, before I was married, was just as much a sin as homosexuality. I have much disdain for those who live in glass houses, yet throw stones.
I pray that we will all find God. In my opinion, we all need him greatly and infinitely.
yea, well, you were brainwashed in sunday school, right!?
"I have to agree. God knows more than I do. "
Words to live by. ❤
well the poor, little "ex-gay" girl is brainwashed
@@camerong5513 you should now
@@angelinaz78 i should now what, ya "Godly" sow?
@@camerong5513 ✈
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@@angelinaz78 oh, well, at least now you finally made sense, adult-child
This is such a brilliant concept to communicate truth. No judgments. Amazing idea
"truth"
Was expecting this to not go well but it went very well. I admire the ChristIan girl’s speech
"Christian". Thanks for the laugh
I don't believe anyone is an "ex-gay." If you're gay accept it and live your best life. Don't let others tell you that you're wrong.
I agree with you I I'm gay and I used to go to Christian Church and I lived not good was in the closet and had self hate on my self and I always thought it was wrong or I was going to hell now I live more better I came out two years ago and would say I'm happy and more healthy love you LGBTQ community 🏳️🌈
@@Mr_kingmoon Good to hear. Nobody should have to live in the closet. It's abuse by the majority against the minority and is sad.
Yes, science has even proven that there is no gay gene gay it's a choice and this is coming from an ex-gay too
@@matchau.u885 There is no single gay gene, but science unanimously proves that sexuality is rooted in biology and cannot be forcibly changed, although natural sexual fluidity due to biological factors can change a person's sexuality
This whole comment section is filled with Christians, but praise the lgdbq queen she was as calm and was also give out the same amount the Christian woman was saying, so just saying give her pride to not just the Christian women
We are praying for the LGBT woman, that she can know that her Creator, who is also the Creator of all things, loves her very much, and made it so her relationship with Him could be reconciled. Also, that she can know who she was actually created to be.
@@Keesha_Hardy she was created to be gay. Period.
@@anabelbarnes3524 No she wasn't. Also, I believe her Creator's words (which are in the Holy Bible) over yours, considering you didn't create her, nor did you create the universe.
Those who don't want to accept the truth will finally understand it in the end, when it's far too late for salvation from sins.
God is giving us the chance right now to chose eternal life. God left the choice to accept His gift of salvation up to us.
@@anabelbarnes3524 no
@@Keesha_Hardy if she was created to be straight then why is she gay. And don’t say it’s a choice cause it really isn’t.
It’s sad to see so many people in these comments let their faith excuse their bigotry and hatred for people who are different than them. God does not permit any of you to spew hatred and categorize it as promoting and sharing his “true” words.
Isaiah 5:20 Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.
It’s not hatred to help people out of sin. It’s love
@@mdh1048 44 As for your male and female slaves whom you may have: you may buy male and female slaves from among the nations that are around you. 45 You may also buy from among the strangers who sojourn with you and their clans that are with you, who have been born in your land, and they may be your property. 46 You may bequeath them to your sons after you to inherit as a possession forever. You may make slaves of them, but over your brothers the people of Israel you shall not rule, one over another ruthlessly. Leviticus 25:44-46
look i can quote verses too
@@BenS-eu4es here’s the historical context everyone leaves out. czcams.com/video/FlzSF0YjrIk/video.html
@@mdh1048 OMG how many times do christian use this tactic. They always talk about the debt slaves when it comes to the topic of slavery in scripture. That type of slavery is only for fellow Israelite's, the foreign slaves did not get the same treatment.
@@BenS-eu4es it literally says “Stranger” and “ Their clans” and “from among the nations around you”. Those aren’t Israelites, they are gentiles.
I feel, I feel, I feel, I feel.
Noticed that too,
I know it’s so much about thy self. Sexuality shouldn’t not define anyone and when we are disconnected from our Source which is God sent Christ so we can be save and restored to who we were from the beginning... if we are disconnected from him we live life by our own desires. The woman who is still a lesbian and an activist has made her community her source of wisdom and knowledge.
I no longer go based of my feelings for Before Christ I was just in my feelings, which excused my behavior as to why I would do what I did.... now The Holy Spirit is inside me and it disciplines me very gently to realize when I’m in the wrong and thinking like I’m in this world when really He lives in Me.
We liveing in the "I feel.... Therefore I am....." error... smh
Spontaneous Hope : Do you “feel” attracted to the opposite gender? Or do you just think it.
Kat Bos
I felt like a fire truck when I was 8. Like REALLY felt!! You just don’t understand
Ex-gay? That's not how that works.
I think it means gay but can’t admit it to themselves
For some people it might.
@@SR-zc6lk people can’t just change their sexuality :’) I’m a heterosexual female and I can just decide to like girls- that’s really not how sexuality works.
@@Bringon-dw8dx Plenty of people have. Some people have a lot of trauma that can influence sexuality.
@@SR-zc6lk still not how it works
Y'all realize she is literally forcing herself to be straight? It's not 'stong' it's really sad actually.
Ur sad.
@johnthreesixteen 14 lol ok
Thank you both for participating in such an honest talk - this is a good example of listening well.
i'm a christian and i'm not looking on whose better but i love how they had a good conversation.
The amount that she talks about feelings is just showing how she is 100% in the flesh. And this Christian girl is straight speaking truth! And she is lovingly delivering it too 🙌🏻
But she also says that her being gay isn't only a feeling. Just like your being straight isn't a feeling to you.
@@ringodax12 yes that's correct. It's also a spirit. A demonic one.
You don’t need an exorcist to rid yourself of a demon. Jesus’ name can do that for you. Also, because the girl who gay isn’t dead to herself is why she is LIVING by her feelings. The girl who is “Ex Gay” is talking about how, yes, she has feelings for something opposite of what the word of God says but she is dead to herself and the spirit now lives through her so she does not act out of feelings or live from a place of feelings anymore. She is living and walking out of the word instead of just living by her own thoughts and feelings. We are here for much more than ourselves and she is willing to put her own desires aside to live the way God has planned for her.
@Comet Dove your feelings can either be influenced by goodness / righteous thoughts and actions emplanted by a relationship with the holy spirit and the word of God or they can be driven by your flesh.
cyoungbe1 you said this perfectly. 👌🏻
Why tf are all the comments praising the Christian girl
because this is a christian channel and everyone who is praising her is trying to spread Christianity lol so obvious
@@JK-mq8ji oh I didn't know this was a Christian channel 💀💀
because she came from a believing 100% that gay is okay and can confidently stand up for why she realizes it was wrong
@@Katiabulks it's wrong to christians due to your beliefs but not to us so let's just respect each other's beliefs
@@Katiabulks realizes!??? You need to REAL-EYES !
I personally was delivered from homosexuality! These are demons of lust and perversion that Jesus personally delivered me from. I thought I was born that way, and the lies being told in the education systems perpetuated my belief. I lived with these beliefs until my mid 20s . The demons were transferred through my dad when I was a toddler. Eventually the power and control of these demons over my life got SO bad, I was suicidal, cutting, relationships were a mess, I had panick attacks to the extreme, drugs, drugs, and more drugs... And these demons had a tight grip on me that made me feel like I couldn't breathe! I cried out with every bit of strength I had, and said, "I'm sorry for lust, Jesus please pray for me!!!", and just like that, Jesus interceded for me and immediately that demon left me! Immediately my mind and thoughts and heart and emotions and the way I saw everything and everyone around me since changed completely!!! It honestly shocked me! That demon had gotten so powerful that this demon was actually looking through my own eyes and had been distorting my perception for SO LONG! MY GOD, HALLELUJAH! THANK YOU JESUS FOR DELIVERING ME!!! Jesus loves us!!! That's why he wants us free from sin that only brings death and destruction, and especially this particular kind, brings so much destruction and death; just the life threatening diseases and the inability to procreate through homosexuality should tell you something(Satan comes to steal kill and destroy). BUT God doesn't want things for us that destroy us! His designs are bursting with life!!! HALLELUJAH!!!
Wow thank you so much for this! I too, had an encounter with God and healing from this. I have to say, asking Jesus to pray for you really puzzled me for a half of a second and the human in me went "wait you cant do that that's not how that works" which was immediately followed by "wait why not Jesus is real and His prayer would absolutely work and I'm going to do that from now on!" I was seeking a word from God tonight and I just found it! I love this new thought!
@@madeleineotten I'm Glad! The bible does say that Jesus interceded on our behalf! But at the time I was so broken down and didn't know how to pray. It was simply out of complete desperation and a feeling of powerlessness. But it worked! And I know for sure that Jesus' intersession and prayer is the most powerful! I mean he's the king of kings!😁 but I've come a long way since then and have learned a lot about prayer warfare... I really appreciate your comment and I'm so glad that God has worked in both our lives! Now that I have the Lord, I never want to be far from him, he is the best love and the best friend you could ever have! I love Jesus so much! Blessings to you Mattie! And happy thanksgiving! 😊
Great testimony thanx for sharing
I was delivered from transgender.
When I thought I was trans I was NOT born like that, I was jealous of my brother's ability to take off shirts to cool off and grow bigger muscles.
But God led my brothers to do sports and leave their workout equipment. I ended up with bigger muscles then them and after running a ton got better resistance to the heat.
WE SUPPORT AND LOVE LGBTQ+ COMMUNITY!!! we care about you , you are loved cared for and respected!
@°P•o•n•k•e•r if you don't support them it sounds to me like you internally hate them so yep
I feel so sorry for the christian girl. Trying to conform to those ideologies. I would never want to loose myself like that in anything. She's like a well trained missionary. Her words arent even her own anymore
We can get lost in our own thoughts, in our own insecurities, and our own failures. We do it every day. Can you not see that there could be more to life than just what is merely physical?
"Identity is found in the God we trust, any other identity will self-destruct" -Lecrae
Absolutely!!!!❤
Haven’t seen any atheist explode yet but I’ll keep looking.
It all depends on whether one trusts in the God of the Bible or the god of this world.
Jack Jones well I wish they would trust The Lord, but I mean yeah, if you try and find your identity any where but Christ, you'll never be truly fulfilled, or find true joy and happiness!!!🙂🙂
@@kacejohnson4099 strange.... Cause I'm very happy. Chasing perfection from God will never make you happy.
despite the christian woman's politeness, what she is saying is still very hateful and oppressive. sexual orientation is a natural part of a human being's identity, something you can't change much like skin color. just because your religion says "god says not to do that" does not mean you are morally correct and does not mean you should oppose that on other people. the bible also says its wrong to wear mixed fabrics but no one cares at all. has this woman ever once considered that her religion might not be the correct one? are there not many very different religions who all claim they are the one correct one? this woman clearly has a lot of self hatred ingrained in her from the society she was brought up in, which is very sad, and that fear has consumed her to the point of perpetuating that hate not only upon herself but also on others. sad.
Hey, N! I believe her point was that God is the one who made morals in the first place. Yes, every human being sees differently, and we cannot all be correct. There are disagreements in every topic, but the one who made everything should surely be the one who has the final say, whether or not we agree with it. I once saw from your view as well. And so did the Christian woman! She was actively gay! But you ask how do we know that this religion is the “right one?” By how it changed her life. She once saw from the LGBTQ activist’s point of view, but something in her, in the person she was born, CHANGED! Thats how we can see it.
Also, just to clarify the mixed clothing issue: Contrary to what many believe, we don’t just “pick and choose” what suits us. For example, life would have been so much easier for the Christian woman here had she ignored the verses on homosexuality. But she didn’t. The Bible does say not to wear mixed clothing, not to have multiple types of crops in one field, not to eat pork... But these things represented something temporary. These rules were set in place to separate God’s people from those around them in that time period by how they lived. This represented the separation between God and man, because of our sin. But then after God sent Jesus to take the punishment for humankind’s sin, the “separation” between God and man was gone. Therefore, there was no need for God’s people to “live separately.” Multiple times in the New Testament you will find that it was then proclaimed that these “separating rules” no longer applied. However, some rules which were not a part of this group remained. Living a homosexual lifestyle is listed in here.
But it doesn’t end there. I, too, once identified as LGBTQ+. Or, more specifically, pansexual. But it was when God brought me to realize that I needed to turn from living that way and instead live for Him that my life changed. Was i “born that way?” Sure, maybe. But I was born again! Spiritually, that is. In other words, I no longer struggle with wanting to “chase after” every attractive person I meet because I realize that I was made to find fulfillment in chasing God instead, just like the Christian woman in this video! Please understand that I am not trying to “push my religion” on you. Rather, I am hoping to share with you something that changed my life- the realization that God’s never ending love is so much better than any love this world has to offer.
@@hannahhillig9970"god" didnt invent morals but go off i guess
@@noah1502 Okay, where did they come from?
@@hannahhillig9970 do you really think only religious people can have morals?? basic human empathy? its funny you insinuate that because www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/06/religious-children-less-altruistic-secular-kids-study
Jubilee rip off?
I’m joking do whatever.
Joecool158 I thought this was jubilee! What the heck! Lol
@@z.a.f3844 Me too, then I saw all the homophobes in the comments and I was like wait💀
Nah. It isn't cool. I don't recommend being a rip off of another channel/company/whatever.
@@samanthaweeb114 I knew it wasn’t jubilee when the Christian conservative wasn’t made to look stupid or dumb and was properly portrayed.
Really dig the fact that you two are willing to sit down and discuss this issue. Dialogue like this is much needed. I, too, felt homosexual tendencies as a young girl. Came out in a lesbian bar in DC at the age of 15. Lived in Los Angeles for 20 years...been there... What I found is that the issue of IDENTITY is at the very core of LGBTQ+. Something clicks and we "identify" with it. It makes us feel accepted, wanted, free - and like we "found who we are". But it is a false identity that eventually fails us. Here's my story:
As one redeemed and set free from nearly 30 years of homosexuality, (and near trans) I absolutely concur that no one can change their sexual orientation. Modify the behavior, perhaps. But true transformation? That is something only the Holy Spirit can do. I say this as one who never thought it possible to "change" and never really wanted to. I was convinced we had it wrong and that some people were just born gay. But I loved the Lord and wanted to be certain I had it right. So I went on a journey to find answers. No one forced me. I made my own choices.
Scripture says we are to be "transformed by the renewing of our minds." The mental renewal occurs when one realizes the new and true IDENTITY that they have as a believer. Identity is not what you feel, not what you think, and not what you do. It is something inherited when you become a new creation in Christ. Sadly, many in the gay lifestyle (and Christians in general) have no clue about their new identities or what that means when it comes to overcoming any life-long inclinations or habits. To be sure, the process is not one that happens overnight, nor is it one that happens completely absent of temptation. However, that time does come.
Many (not all) people who have gone through "ex-gay" ministries, counseling, conversion therapy, etc. are relying on methods, programs and antidotes that lean heavily on will power and "self-help". Hence, the reason for failure. I agree that these organizations and methods will almost always fail (as we are hearing and seeing), leaving people feeling hopeless, convinced of lies that they can never change, and their faith often becomes shipwrecked. I, for one, did not go through any "ex-gay" ministry...no "deliverance" ministry or conversion therapy (of which I am staunchly opposed to), and no counseling. I simply pressed into the Lord and His word...and no, the journey was not an overnight, instantaneous change. But it was and is solid. And I am a free woman, with no desire to return to homosexuality and no interest in women. So much for me thinking I was "born that way".
The lie of the gay identity (leading to a false label) is at the core of the gay lifestyle. It is the beginning (or end) to freedom. And yes, people can be born with impure and immoral sexual desires, so being "born that way" is not entirely false. That should be no surprise as we are all born into sin. However, Jesus came to set us free and break the strongholds in our lives. That's what He does. And, He is still doing. God bless.
People dont understand the scriptures they just pretend they do...
thank u for your testimony.
I too questioned my sexuality as a young teen...realizing now that back then I was not walking with God therefore easily lead astray into fleshy desires and anything that did not glorify God but glorifyied myself. naturally I thought the world revolved around me so I made excuses for my choices and behavior. Now I understand why we cant rely on ourselves only, because we r not equipped to deal with the kind of pressures and evilness that the devil loves to pile on us...making us hate and doubt ourselves. I understand now that if I wana see God one day, I wana be a shiny new penny all cleaned up and pure to be presented to the Lord. No one wants to be given an old beat up gift. Certainly not giving God my sinful heart, He gets me restored and renewed thanks be to Jesus.
@@MrsLockenload I am so grateful to share what the Lord has done in my life and pray many are blessed by it. Thank you!🙏☝️
@@MrsLockenload what a great word! God bless you!
am i the only one who feels bad for emily? i think that what she was learning from that bible study is invalidating how she feels. just talking about it she looks like she’s on the verge of tears. it’s confusing
Yeah I think she’s in denial
No it seems that she does acknowledge her feelings but chooses not to act on them. When asked if the desire is still there, she says that it comes and goes and some days its hard. So she is not in denial of her feelings nor are her feelings invalidated. But she doesnt let her feelings control or define her, but rather let God take control because He knows best
@@liyaaa101 "God" ya quack
I love how these two woman can talk and be open and not come at each other.
They were both so nice to each other 😀 we need more chats like this in the world it's OK to disagree with each other and still be friends.
Jesus hung out with 12 men, talked about loving everyone, was never married, and they still think he was straight?
@Go to jwdotorg not until you do :)
You sound like a pervert. Not everything needs to be aboit sex. Stop watching porn. Jesus said a lot more than just loving everyone. He talked with men and women alike. He is the Son of God.
That’s a legit Christian Right there!!!!!!!!!! Praise God!!!!!!!!!!
God*
Esosa Oduware fixed it 😂👍🏼
@@Jellyrole167 yayyyy😂
the little girl who talks on subjects her supposed Lord can't be quoted on!? The ignorance is palpable. 🤣......
Are you born holy ?
Are you born an adulterer ?
Are you born fornicator.
No.
We are all born sinners , everyone who repents and live after God's word will live.
Tala Habern We’ve all sinned and fallen short of the Glory Of God. We’ve lied, stolen, blasphemed the name of God, lusted, etc. That is why He came down to earth as a human and died for all our sins and got the punishment we deserved so we wouldn’t have to go to hell and be eternally separated from Him. Now all we have to do is repent of our sins, turn away from it, and trust in Christ
I gay nothing is wrong or sinful about that because I don't believe in god so stop saying it's sinful because not everyone belives in a dusty old book and a man with a big gray beard
pff, totally irrelevant point
were you born heterosexual? yes? then people can also be born homosexual. the ignorance is unreal. in what world does homosexuality = fornication lolll
I love Conversations like this!
TFK ray what?
@pablo suarez there are jewish Christians
friendly reminder there are christians out there that dont think being gay is a sin
Yeah these comments make y’all look ROUGH haha
@@SealySikes right? jeeeez. disturbing
Hey, can you explain why you don't think being gay is a sin?
@@gukas.1338 sure. I wrote this post long ago. I came off the fence to this belief many years ago, and had many arguments about it back then. Since then I've given people the opportunity to sway my opinion but no one has yet so it's kind of something I've come to accept and don't think about too much anymore (since it's been tested a lot by me opening up my position to pushback). so, that said, that's why this post is old. I'm sorry if the links don't work but I think the argument is still sound. And I can find working links to back up a certain point I made if you want.
venetianblossom.tumblr.com/post/155737504692/how-harm-principle-and-divine-command-theory
@@gukas.1338 also, im aware the post is very free-form writing. don't expect research paper quality lol. my tumblr is more of a private diary my friends and family don't know about where I just write down all my strong beliefs and epiphanies on things when I feel the need to. and sometimes when someone like yourself asks me something about the topics ive written about, I can revert back to these and my line of reasoning.
The common theme in all of the discussions on this channel is that one person submits to God’s standard while the other looks within themselves for a standard.
Well if you’re non-religious why would you refer to God’s standard?
@@onyi7713 the gay woman is religious...so you're point is what exactly?
@@onyi7713 the point if that if you don't have an objective standard then you live in a worldview of obscurity that is made up of subjective morality. Meaning that an individual can personally justify any kind of behavior, including you. So a person that doesn't refrence God's word (objective truth) has no basis for truth in a world of complete subjectivity. Its a world of chaos.
@@lifeoftoast1864 again, non-religious people don’t see God’s words as objective. You can see it that way and that’s completely fine but the fact that it is your belief and opinion makes it subjective. At least that’s what I think, don’t force your views on other people
@@lifeoftoast1864 that’s why we have laws
Whooooaaaaa so cool!! They’re both so intelligent and kind!
YES!!! What a wonderful example of how people with Totally opposing Beliefs can DIALOGUE not accuse or badger. I am So Incredibly Encouraged by this video man foreal (YES, I'm a Christian, I work at killing this Flesh Every Single Day- and by the Power and Strength of the Holy Spirit HE Keeps and Helps me do so. Thru the BLOOD of Jesus, our sins are All forgiven. I can go on & on bc God is Good. GREAT even). But man this here was cool. Blessings and Love to BOTH of Them!!! 🙏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
No... add a guy and they will turn feminists
@Epic Isreal Gay is not a race! its a choice. Its not a path to heaven. Change and repent now.it was Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve!!
red cat!! Fuck off prick
@@smwatertasteslikewater try men again bitch!!
Glad to see a young woman so strong in her faith. Well done.
Quiet Curious not really lmao. she’s a sad human being who obviously is having an identity crisis.
maybe. I saw a brainwashed adult-child
Wow! That blew my mind...such a good respectful conversation. We need more of this in the world.
truthfully i feel bad for the christian girl, i wish she didn’t have to give up that part of herself in the name of god or the bible. i imagine it’s hard for her to be in a straight relationship when she knows deep down she has feelings for women. i hope one day she is able to free herself from shame and is able to love god as well as herself and her feelings. she seems like a genuinely caring and loving person, i do hope in the future she is able to finally be herself and no longer repress herself. i hate that people think one can only have one or the other, people should be able to love and respect any god they want while still being true to themselves and be fully happy as they want to be.
i agree
Thank you for filming a non biased convo like this!
Tala Habern your such a toxic atheist troll lmao keep trying your lucky I’m the only person who replies to you. High schooler lgbt mindset gets us nowhere
Tala Habern different opinion equals homophobic lol but feelings without research aka lgbt count as fact Nevermind bruh just do you. You will never find the light is my final thought to you. I think your just trolling since you reply to everyone with a subjective opinion of yours lol what a waste.
Tala Habern you comment on every single Christian video lol pretty delusional for someone who don’t believe in Jesus lol 😂 you won’t see me on nihilistic tendencies or lgbt crusaders. Your actually very close minded for the people who support lgbt but want to leave that toxic immoral lifestyle because a large chunk or your own group doesn’t want to Be gay lol😂 your probably not even 18 yet 🤣🤣
you know that is a christian channel right? already biased
@@almondwater9583 "immoral" cos ya picture book said so, wannabe Christian. Thanks for the laugh
I love how they both respect each other. Living in a world where people would rather yell at each other then sit down and have a calm debate-makes me sad. But this conversation was nice. I enjoyed it
Christian girls final thoughts 👏🏽 she gave the gospel in such a graceful loving way
umm, what gospel would that be???
the comments are so cringy, why are you guys praising the christian girl for acting how shes supposed act as a christian. this isnt crazy ,there are many like her but yall act like shes a different species of christian. that's just sad.too many stereotypes and christianophobia here smh.😐😪😒
RIGHTTTT!!!!! 💯💯💯
many don’t know that it is actually evil spirit and spiritual things many Christian dun know.. healing and deliverance many dun know. Only Jesus Christ can cast out for them. Repent
Amen!
repent and Jesus will save u!
Amen! I was delivered from homosexuality. Jesus himself revealed to me I had a demon of lust and perversion, it was so powerful in its control over me and overwhelming, that I couldn't even pray, so I cried out, "Jesus forgive me for lust, please pray for me", and just like that, it was gone and my mind and heart and the way I saw people changed! It was incredible power and grace! Thank you Lord Jesus!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HALLELUJAH!
@@keh-dalia809 Praise God. I've been looking for this explanation since I heard it from watching Sam on the United twelve yt channel. He went through the same thing. I just want to know how to support and encourage my loved ones (that have lived a gay lifestyle for so long) who struggle with their loneliness physically but are trying to follow YHWH's way.
@@taizachvrchwhite735 if someone is fully delivered, they won't be having sexual desires for the same sex and when someone has fully submitted the flesh to the holy spirit, they won't be controlled by sexual desires period. When you put your love in God first and keep pressing inn, all loneliness desolves, because there is no greater love or friendship than the love and friendship found with Jesus and the one true living God and father! This narrow road of salvation can be very difficult, BUT it is the most rewarding, most beautiful, and most amazing journey walking with God.. and the more one walks with God, the more you'll wonder why you needed anything else, because truly God is the only one who can complete us, fill us with love, and make us whole, healed, and new. I myself struggle from time to time because I'd like to find a husband, but these are dark times and it's hard to find anyone with the real love of God in their hearts, so it's all the more reason to stick close to the Lord, more now than ever!!! HALLELUJAH, God's truly the source of everything we need! God bless you Taiza!
I can’t imagine having to sit there listening to some religious person tell me how their invisible friend thinks there’s something wrong with me.
Praying 4U2.
Gordon Aufill without God you cant make sense of anything, you posted your comment knowing that it will mean the same thing later. Without God you account for these types of absolutes, like logic, uniformity of nature absolute truth.
Outside of God (invisible friend) how do you justify absolute truth?
@@jesussaves2131 There is no truth. Truth is dead... And you killed them.
Samuel Foresta you said, "there is no truth", is that true??? If yes then you just refuted yourself.
the difference between them is the one have found peace and contentment the other seems still be confused and longing for something. 🙂
Who is who acording to you?
yea , who and SO What anyway?
The lgbt activist spoke really well what an amazing vocation
Well done may Christ be proclaimed in every generation
@Tala Habern go away
You sound like you're in a cult, dude.
AMEN!!
"Christ" ya dolt
@@joethehobo89 no he doesn’t
Do what you will. I'm going to follow Jesus. He led me to God and I've never been happier.
that's a Satan doctrine..." Do what thy wilt"....try not to associate it with yeshua...😊
But the culture needs Christianity and morals
-@@eurekampangane7589
oh... Whoops. I'm just so sick of trying to bring people to Jesus when they don't want to in the first place. My energy is wearing thin. People are heartless, Jesus is not. I get what you are saying though.
@@Melbot103 I feel that way sometimes 😂I thought I was the only one
Jesus is God.
Nobody chooses who they're attracted to. Consensual same-gender romantic and/or sexual relationships harm absolutely no one. Why the fuck is this still an issue for some people?
smh some people jus gotta be homophobic 😔
The issue here is not feeling attracted to people of the same sex. What we believe is against God's design, as bible-believing Christians, is when someone chooses to dwell on those thoughts or act upon them. Although, it may seem impossible to resist to our desires from a human standpoint, with God, it becomes possible.
@@arbretree5463 Nothing wrong with that either. Nobody gets hurt when two men or two women hold hands, or kiss, or move in together, or fuck. If your god's "design" requires for these people to arbitrarily not do any of those things, it's a shitty design.
@@arbretree5463 no one asked you to be homophobic in the name of your beliefs✌also you have to acknowledge that some people do not believe in a god or divine being and never will. I'm no Christian but you being a Christian doesn't bother me. I don't believe in what you believe (similar to how you don't agree with gay marriage) but I wouldn't call you wretched or wish you off the planet because of any of my morals.
@@stasiroo I am very well aware of that. I was just trying to explain why some people still believe homosexuality should not be normalised even though "nobody chooses who they're attracted to".
I really appreciate that you respect Christians although you disagree with their beliefs. I do the same for those who identify as homosexuals. That is exactly how things should be. We should all be able to respectfully disagree.
I find it interesting that the Christian woman admitted she still struggles with attraction towards other women even now that she’s married and she even said that marriage has “helped” her a lot in not giving into her feelings. She didn’t seem very happy idk. It just sucks that religion can make you suppress that side of yourself out of fear that you’ll be dammed forever.
yeah as a christian myself, it is a hard conflicting thing to deal with. i struggle with same sex attraction and it’s really hard to tell people this with the feeling of being misunderstood or shunned. i don’t think there’s a lot of christians who understand the weight of dealing with such shame hoping the feeling would just go away so i can please God, the feeling literally lives inside of me. i love God and i love Jesus and i understand the things i read about but i don’t think christians really understand the struggle of sexuality, idk where i’m going with this
I appreciate these discussions. No hatred. No judgement. Acceptance. It would be awesome if we could all express and share our beliefs and opinions in this manner.
it's not acceptance , and the hatred is real
What I learned from this is I’ll keep being with my girl whether people think it’s a sin or not. I’m happy, she’s happy. We try to be the best versions of ourselves and scripture doesn’t change that
@Tala Habern I completely agree.
Awww same here💜 thanks for commenting that! The homophobic comments were really upsetting me.
@The RABBIT That's not the issue i'm adressing. Yes I understand people have their own beliefs and points of view, however the issue here is the some people have the nerve to believe that suddenly people will become straight. They are making it seem like its our choice to choose who we fall in love with.
There are plenty of messed up comments underneath.
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@The RABBIT Ok so imagine you falling in love with your bff over time who happens to be the same gender as you. Its wasn't your choice really because you spend years knowing this person and you fell in love with them over time naturally. The choice you really have is to either act on it or not.
@The RABBIT Happy Thanksgiving🍁 i’m not sure what this argument is about. I do not understand what stand you are taking. We keep hopping from one argument to another.
The Christian girl sounds so depressed and sad
How is she an ex- gay
You can’t take your feelings away at all
She’s a gay Christian she just won’t say it because Your feelings can’t go away
Also the gay activist is so pretty my gayness is showing I swear
Guessing that she's probably bisexual 🤷🏾
@@queerpanentheism6920 ya true
The Christian was sooooo relaxed. She directed all her answers back to Jesus Christ. She gave Bible verses to direct the lesbian.
The lesbian was left with this is how I feel.
Team Christians won... hint hint Jesus Christ will always win.😉
because the lesbian doesn’t need facts or evidence behind it because that’s just the way she is
Whatever you say. That attitude is why most non-Christians dont want to go to heaven because the majority of you are just obnoxious.
Apart from The Bible being objectively untrue.
Bible versus are completely useless in any argument unless u have somehow found proof that god exists (which I’ll save u some time, there is none) or proof that your god created this man written book
Rjn 23 i’m catholic actually
What a brave Christian girl!
Tala Habern wow😕
Tala Habern troll
Tala Habern Still a troll
Tala Habern Kk
Tala Habern Than leave. God bless you bye!❤️🙏🏾
this is literally an exact copy of jubilee’s middle ground
Except with jubilee all the similar thinking guests just hype each other up. Because this is one-on-one it forces each person to actually think fully and articulate their own thoughts
Miss Lee yeah and that’s great but it’s the fact that they copied everything about the setup of it, from the prompts all the way to the thumbnail. it’s just weird imo
I like this format than middle ground.
But everyone watching is Christian apparently
I disagree.
It makes me upset seeing all these judgmental comments from “Christians”. I’m Christian but I don’t see the point in being hateful towards those who have different views as me. Why pick a fight? Seeing these two girls speak really makes me happy because a seed was planted. God takes care of the rest but there’s no point to spread hate towards the other lady.
Jocelyn Carino you nailed it.
Thank God. She planted that Hope.
And God does the increase ❤️
Jocelyn , what’s your favorite verse?
Me watching this and being lowkey scared of the comments cause I'm Queer and a Christian 👁👄👁 Ready to get dragged by both communities here (mainly the ever-so-loving Christian one) ✌😗 Come at me fam, cause Jesus is my rock which means you can't shake me. Love you. Galations 3:28
“I’d rather much look to a Creator, perfect God than myself for truth.”
The core of the tradegy called religion.
*tragedy
@@angie2989 Sorry, i thought this was a comment section, not a spelling contest.
But as a norwegian where english is my secoundary language, i`m curious. How many norwegian words do you know?
Where do you get truth from ?
@@sveinunglidsheim5828 *secondary
So, your saying its a tragedy someone belives a perfect God and not am imperfect selfish person that they are?
Love how they both kept calm and respectful!! ❤️😭🙌🏻
I applaud the lgbtq woman for being brave enough to express herself as her whole self unapologetically on a channel such as this where there is only one perceived correct way of thinking that is being pushed
I love this Gay lady she is one of the few that actually pays attention and isn't always trying to tackle back . I respect that. I also love the Christian lady. She is wise and woke.
please remember that when you say you value god over someone’s beliefs, you’re talking to a person who cannot change their sexuality. You’re saying that your interpretation of the bible (that you don’t even know is correct) is more important than someone’s entire self. you may not feel that way when you say it, but as a gay person that’s exactly what I hear.
Christianity is a choice and they always want to be respected for it, why can't that be the same with homosexuality? The only difference is that we don't choose our sexual orientation lol
Yeah exactly. You can choose your religion but not your sexuality.
i agree that you cannot choose who you're attracted to, but you can choose to follow God's design of who you should be or be with. i also agree that Christianity is a choice, because we are given free will by the Lord. we can choose to be Christian or otherwise.
as a Christian, i respect the LGBTQ+, but there are also gay Christians who choose to follow God. the sad part is, progressive gays automatically label gay Christians as brainwashed sheeple. but gay Christians like the woman in this video actually had agency and used her free will to follow what the Lord says.