Louis Vs Schmeling -The Real Story (Documentary)
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- Great Documentary about the lives and fights between Max Schmeling and Joe Louis!______________________________________________________________________tags: max schmeling joe louis documentary the real story max baer muhammad ali mike tyson wladimir klitschko klitchko jack sharkey gene tunney jack dempsey larry holmes ken norton joe frazier evander holyfield riddick bowe lennox lewis rocky marciano great heavyweight boxing ko knockout floyd mayweather manny pacquiao marvin hagler marquez roberto duran
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this video is one of my all time favorites. nearly brought a grown man to tears. RIP, Max and Joe. true friends.
+bull shiza whatever dude.
Same here man I had to fight back a few tears myself.
A wonderful documentary, with a couple editing errors in the narrative, but the human bond should echo through the future of humanity. I can only hope.
Their story, which I basically knew about for years, has always amazed me and taught me a lesson. So damn inspiring and really shows human nature at its best. You know what? There is a strong parallel between this one and the also-famous friendship between Jesse Owens and Luz Long of Germany[1936 Olympics]. I read about it from Owens himself in one of his two best books. Owens was really an amazing guy, intelligent and sensible and pretty articulate. His take on America black-white situation is one of the best I feel.
@@henrybrowne7248
Thank you for your comments, very well said, productions like this should be mandated all over the world ... I am going to seek out the books by Jesse Owens.
I have same family name but without the e!
Peace.
Max Schmeling a true friend of Joe Louis and an outstanding human being
This documentary left out that Max Schmeling lived to the age of 99 and died in 2005.
tkarlmann good knowledge
this doc was made b4 he died .
@@wulf659 Correct mate
He also jumped into Crete as a Fallschirmjäger which was in hindsight one of the most dangerous things he could have done, I'm glad he survived, he deserved to as a great human being
Man knows his stuff.
The bitter irony is: Joe Louis was treated far worse by his own country than he ever was by Max including the knockout.
Gary Cole: Very true
Its a horrible truth.
Po baby!!!
countrys don't treat, people treat.
@Stephen Martin the IRS put Louis into a financial hole, certainly picking up a cocaine dependency would not have helped those finances.
Max Schmeling was a good man and dear friend to Joe Louis till the end.
They were both good men,.
@@Autobotmatt428 Sounds more like they were both GAY men! :P
@@heavymackin7585 Thanx Rocky!!!! :P
@@mr.blackhawk142
How did you come to that conclusion?
human kind can show love no matter race or religion. we can all be good! true story of great humanity between rivals/friends
This is an excellent historical lesson as I learned man things I didn't know before. The world could use more good men like Joe Lewis and Max Schmeling. RIP
I got you on like 1600 (*16 "smile"). I claim this film for my own !! : )
@@johnwilkinson4078 the IRS treated our hero like trash, why would you take money from Joe Louis up until that point the GOAT. Joe Louis donated all his purses he earned in WW2 to military relief charities and to get treated like that, he should've got a pardon immediately fom governors and president.
@@aarondigby5054 You know why.....he could not even buy a home in the NJ town that pretended to like him.
Two truly extraordinary men. Great documentary.
Well said.
BEautiful story. Two class acts. We need more people like Joe Louis and Max Schmeling in this world.
Great story, and powerful example of a friendship in contrast to narratives created about it. Absolutely a lesson for our current fractured society.
Two soul brothers who came into this world together to help each other out and grow together. They accomplished what they came here to do in a beautiful way.
Yes thats beatifull
RIP to both Joe and Max! God bless their memory!
Wow! History is incredible. More young boxing fans need to watch more of these documentaries.
bow wow!
I agree. I'm a senior guy. In my day, school was where you learned important stuff--well, it was important then at least--and it's clear to me so many, many of our youngsters today didn't do that. We're in for trouble . . .
Beautiful story. It's great to hear about special bond and friendship these two boxers had.
Integrity is everything. Joe and Max had it in tons.
Joe would be proud of Joe Louis Jr. A very intelligent and well spoken man.
Humility and generosity seem present in both their characters. Little souls parade their egos in the name of greatness, but the sincerity of these two men shines through in this documentary. In their lives they almost disappear while their noble works shine brighter. Both very impressive lives. RIP good gentlemen.
Nicely put.
I love em both. Max and Joe showed us, there are no races, just Humans.
Wadaboot the BIG race to the Bagel Store on half-price day? Jou have no idea how 'special' jou are!
This documentary brought so much tears to my eyes. Max Schmeling was indeed an angel and great friend to Joe. I only wish they were geographically closer to savor their friendship more. May their beautiful souls rest in heavenly peace. Amen!
Amen
Jou gonna be OK Liger Queen???
@@mr.blackhawk142 , you're stupid!
@@mr.blackhawk142, just shove that reply up your ass, bitch!
Louis supposedly said that he & Schmeling had become friends after the first fight,that there was no reason to hate somebody because he beat you in a fight. Schmeling sent him a German Cuckoo Clock.
My German Gramma had a cuckoo clock collection!
And I am Cuckoo for cocoa puffs!!!
What a great man Mr. Schmeling was!
+Mario Zoisl And Joe Louis as well.
Mario Zoisl I'm his parent so proud
A truly heart warming story.
Joe Louis was a longtime friend of a lot of his former opponents including Billy Conn, Tommy Farr and this gentleman, Max Schmeling.
"Our true friend" said Mrs Joe Louis which says it all.
Max Schmeling truly cared for big Joe and Joe Louis smile says he knows.
A Gentleman of n in the Ring.
Max was a great human being,and a true gentleman
Class acts, true men/gentlemen. When fighting for the honor and glory was still important. Now we have a watered down heavyweight division of egos and nobodies.
I met Joe. In 1980 las Vegas nv. He was in a wheelchair greeting people and cracking jokes. He was in a couple sweat suits and covered with blankets. Said he was cold.great man very nice fellow and a christian man.
It was at a Roberto duran fight at Ceasars palace, las Vegas. Real champion with a great right upper knockout punch!!!
both legends RIP CHAMPS
Hear hear!
@@kommando1476 there, their....and THEY'RE!
Two men both used and abused by there respective countries that found friendship and love for each other despite the atmosphere of racial hatred that was everywhere.
Yes, the way they were both used for propaganda, then discarded by their respective countries was awful. At least Schmeling was a successful businessman after the war & had a remarkably long life (99 years!). This is such an interesting story b/c of the challenges faced by each man, brought on by their own country's actions. Their real enemies were their own governments, bigotry, & ignorance.
@@DonnaBrooks Well said, Mrs. Brooks.
A wonderful documentary about two remarkable sportsmen, congratulations to all concerned. The manner in which Joe louis was treated by the IRS was nothing short of disgraceful, lets hope this sort of treatment is never to be repeated.
LMatters the still doing it to black people wesley snipe
Lmatters : The Tax Office will always go after the easy Target
Alpha Ecka Yeah, the exact same situation 😂
You'd come out better finding a snowball in hell: look at the McCarthyism communist witch-hunts that detailed Hollywood actors careers, ex. Paul Robeson then the wiretapping and intercepting mail of our civil rights movement leaders,the feds are backstabbing back biting liars and thieves.
Pay your taxes especially if you in a high tax bracket they watching
It's crazy how many black, millionaire athletes end up broke and in debt...
Whole different perspective on Max. This is fascinating.
no matter the race or religion, love and respect can break all bonds. we all human. this is a good story on how we can all be better.
I'm always amazed that Max Scmeling lived to 99.
Mr Upstairs must've really liked him.
Schmeling famously defied Hitler when he was told to get rid of his Jewish American manager.
Max was a very good man and stood up for his jewish friends, and a good friend to joe. Max represented the goodness in humanity, joe was a very generous man, humble.. He had a very good heart, god bless both of them for their kindness and goodwill to humanity.
Boy! What a great human interest story for the ages. Thanks Joe and Max.
13.20 wow before he was champ.....plus 40 years after hearing about this I never knew Max ran up and picked Louis up from the canvas. Nice...
A wonderful production. Thanks for sharing.
2 truly great men. Great representations their races. If only others were more like them
4:56 That’s the same picture Max Schmelling was so kind to send to me autographed in the 1980’s 👍🥊
That's why I liked boxing, the structure of the true sportsmanship, humility and respect.
the working class sportsmen was one of a kind
Joe Louis great fighter, an a great man,one of the best
Great legendary warriors. Rest in heaven.
Lot of love for Max in these comments, I read every single comment..rightfully so he was a very long generous man with good morals in his heart..but the slander of Louis saying he was a junkie and dirty shot Max during their second fight yall need to stop the 🧢 in addition if you weren't black during that time got no room to talk..no clue what you would have been it was incredibly hard mentally to be in such a position.
Two fine gentlemen
AGREE
Of COARSE!
So moving. Thank you so much for this.
This teared me up. Why can't we love each other like this always.? Im naive to pray and wonder at 44 years old.
I still can not believe how Ali called this man Uncle Tom.
At the start of the documentary the narrator states that even Muhammad Ali called him the greatest of all time.
@@johnoshane1367 I do not give a fuck, what the narrator states. Ali himself said that SRR was the greatest.
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Ali called Joe uncle tom just because Joe thought that Ali should go to the war. Call Joe uncle tom is the ugliest thing!
@@dankemo3169 he’s given different answers , and no he said IF you go P4P SRR is the greatest. Btw guess who SRR calls the greatest 😮
After the rematch with Louis, Schmelling won the heavyweight European Championship 1939.
This would be an instant classic movie.
While representing USA and its so called freedoms did not let Joe Louis buy a house.? Disgusting hypocritical times.
Po baby!
Beautiful tribute to both great men.
Just, wow! If you are old enough to remember the legacy of Joe Louis, maybe even rlong after he died, if like me you keep reading about his being the best heavyweight of his time (the mid-1930s), and watching videos of him pulverizing larger men than he, this movie from History Channel (when they were still worth watching), will give you an education in the greatness of sport as displayed by the best of the best.
In this case the man who brought out the best, and worst, in Joe Louis was his German arch-rival Max Schmeling. Though his rise in Germany as a boxer was parallel with the rise of Naziism, Schmeling never gave them any more than he had to, to avoid being condemned to an unnamed grave. Because in 1936 he was the first fighter to KO Louis in the ring and become world champion, Schmeling, a very charming and amiable man, was suddenly a superstar in Europe and lived the good life in Berlin.
At the same time, Louis was going through the devastating experience of letting down Black Americans, who at that time in the Depression experienced terrible prejudice and poverty. Louis, who was some 8 years younger than Schmeling, got to work and completely transformed his boxing style. Not until Muhammad Ali did a single fighter so upgrade the sport from brutal beatings to “the sweet science.”
Schmeling had no idea of Louis’s high improvements in technique until he found himself facing Joe in New York in 1938, with the Nazi propaganda machine trumpeting him as the white hope. (And not a few white Americans besides.) Despite the filming and sound limitations of the time, this documentary does an excellent job of showing before the fight how high the stakes were for both men. The film’s only weakness in this area was due to lack of footage of Joe Louis as he rebuilt himself - not a large man by heavyweight standards-into a shy-looking and unassuming man who inside was , without exaggeration, a killing machine intent on salvaging his race against the murderous atrocities of the Nazis against everything that was not white and Christian.
In the most explosive physical attack by a champion-level heavyweight boxer in the sport’s history, right up to now, Louis went after Schmeling in a murderous rage, in two minutes of the first round breaking his back and rupturing one of his kidneys, causing Schmeling two spend two weeks afterward in hospital.
After watching this video you might feel as I did that Louis did his best to kill Schmeling in that encounter - not due to animosity toward Schmeling as a man, but because Louis knew of the suffering of his people due to eugenics and other quack-infested interpretations of Blacks as an inferior race. And here, just before the outbreak of WWII, it all came to a head in this boxing match that had a significant effect on the future war between democracy and fascism.
I leave you to watch the rest. You will not be disappointed, unless you are a wannabe Nazi. If that is your nature, it is all the more important to watch this documentary so you will get an idea of what is coming to you over the next few years as you attempt your comeback. It will not be pretty, I promise.
But then maybe, upon watching this, you will get some understanding of the consequences of believing “master race” lies and see a bit of yourself in the brown-skinned guy working hard beside you at a low-paying job trying to feed his family. There IS an enemy out there who has used trickery to get you to blame “the other” whether they be Black or female or gay or old or whatever, while they siphon the hard work of all the laborers of any race to satiate the pornographic lust for wealth of the .01 percent.
ibhof2......A beautiful documentary about two extraordinary men. Well done mate :)
Out standing documentary, thank you
Jack Johnson after being shut out of the Louis Camp gave Schmeling insight including the fact that Louis dropped his left lead after jabbing
Fascinating. Because Schmelling went into fight #1 with a game plan that enabled him to win. Styles make fights . .
God bless Max. What a great man.
these guys were men.not boxing now who cry and duck other fighters.legacy lives forever.
@13:35- and @15:25 wow, i have great respect for Max. he really had a huge, huge heart. he had a great love for people.
The ironic thing about racism is in black and white footage you literally can't tell the difference in either of their skin colour.
If the world were in black and white perhaps we'd do away with racism.
@Joseph Solowyk, you’re a true genius! That’s what I was thinking the entire time that I was watching one of the bouts between Joe and Max. They both were equally white-skinned. My only distinction of the two was the stripes on the sides of Joe’s shorts. Racism is stupid!
Joseph Solowyk: How perceptive
AM SO GLAD THAT I COULD WATCH THIS , WAS GREAT ABOUT TWO GREAT MEN
Respect to both legends
More people need to be aware of this story.
Schmeling was horribly villified by the media at the time
Truly a great video! I am happy to have a well read, and good education. Thank you!
Definitely two outstanding men... And definitely real men!!!
It was so fucked up how their countries backed them when they were on top but shit them off and fucked them both in their low spots.
One thing their countries can never take from was the respect both men earned from millions world wide!!!
Thanks for that documentary, it was nice to learn more about the man my grand father had become friends with, Max Schmeling.
awesome documentary !
Most people forget an important fact: Germany was one of the least countries in which duelling was forbidden. The most number of any medieval and early modern fighting manuals (and printed publications as well) on fistfighting, wrestling and fencing are of german origin. it is just too bad that those gloves became mandatory...
who cares
@@swordofjustice3074 Greco -roman wrestling was going on in the years before Christ, why people like to imagine stuff.
They where both great men and true gentleman.
What a couple of wonderful human beings
How is this not a major motion picture.
There's a good movie somewhere I saw a few years ago called 'max n joe' about this period and their relationship, well done
Joe and Max
13:45 Nat Fleischer, founder and editor of our all time favorite Boxing magazine, The Ring, did the interview with Max.
I LOVE this documentary
great stuff!
Great documentary both max and Joe were true gentlemen.Two of a kind.r.i.p champs.
The irony is that Schmeling lost the fight and was later because of his loss highly sucessful. Had he won the Nazis had not dumped him and he would have never gotten the Coca Cola franchise that made him rich. Louis died pennyless and Schmeling stepped in so his family could bury him as they had no money for a funeral. Schmeling lived almost until 100 while Louis never reached his 80s .
Grossartig ... 😊... Danke !
Max's story was somewhat tragic, but he was a good man just like Joe.
To risk his life and save those Jewish boys, makes Max a Saint.
Boxing is a sport not enamity really true friends
Wrong way round. It was Louis who was a tragic figure to the point where Max helped him financially. Schmeling became a successful businessman after the war. By comparison Louis was always in arrears with the IRS. Very sad.
Was he? How long did jou know him or Joe???
@@mr.blackhawk142 Man, you must be brain defective. Ever heard of reading a book?
So schmeling was a pretty good guy
No, a very good guy with a big heart.
And Louis ended up skint partly because the US Gov't screwed him and partly because he was very free with his money.
When BOXING was BOXING. Now we have shit fights where fighters don't want to risk their 0 and are more concerned about their pay-check then their legacy. Such a shame for the great history of boxing!!!!
I will be sure to share their story with people. Top guys.
Looking at Joe Louis in this documentary, how he looks like such a humble and gentle man, who did what he loved-boxing and because of his naivity and lack of understanding, was exploited by those that cheered for him. Max Schmeling is like that himself too, but was older and more worldly than his younger friend. Both were exploited by those that cheered only to be backstapped when they werent looking.
Yes! Well put. Jesse Owens and Louis became very close later on, as they were in the same unique situations in their society and time. Owens described in his book that Louis really did have a gentle, naive temperament and people--probably mostly white--took advantage of him time and time again. And Owens thought it unbelievable that Louis didn't either completely snap or become completely different. Well, the way Owens told it, Louis DID snap at some point, basically losing his mind but did recover after a period of something--rest or maybe an institution, can't recall for sure. Actually, though, I also think when Louis was completely broke people did take care of him to some extent, gave him jobs, etc. But just contrast Louis with successful Black athletes today who become millionaires and stuff.
@@henrybrowne7248 it's the lowest an American hero has ever been treated. Who was Joe's accountant, nobody told Joe he needed to pay tax on that money hedonated.
@@aarondigby5054 I and many agree. Pathetic and shameful. In the Louis biography I read[can't remember author], there was some guy managing Joe's finances who apparently was the one responsible[can't remember his name, either]. Never told Joe about the taxes. I still remember that writer calling that financial guy 'odious', really stuck in my mind. Then you'd think the damn government would take Joe's history into consideration--today they surely would--but they didn't. Joe had to come out of retirement. Weirdly coincidental, OWENS ALSO had some guys running his business and they ran it into the ground and vanished without ever telling Jesse about taxes. Owens took full responsibility and worked his butt and paid everything off. Also, Owens went before a judge and he DID take Owens' life into account and let him off easy. Owens was really a great guy, wiser and more sensible than just about anyone.
Jesse Owens is a legend never to be forgotten for his dominance in the 1936 Olympics showing up Hitler and his nazi qu##rs.
Two great hero legend RIP guys u will be miss
13:23 inaccurate. Louis was not the champion then
Yeah, I caught that too
@@wilsonstone935 Better than catching juan of Joe's right crosses.
Louis was not the champion in their first fight, but was in the second fight.
@@integratedathleticsystemst546 That's right, though the guy said "It was the first time Joe Louis was knocked out while he was world champion"
@@integratedathleticsystemst546 It was the first fight that was shown
2 men with contrasting life arcs. Joe is consistently given credit as one of the greatest boxers to ever fight, but suffered crippling financial debt and struggled in his personal life. Schmeling, in contrast, experienced financial success, but his boxing prowess has been diminished and largely forgotten
Two of the bravest men to ever enter a ring.
Beautiful history of triumph
Love the music🎶🎶🎧🎧🎵🎵🎼🎼 so nice and relaxing
Two great humans
Excellent
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As far as I am concerned America was / is no better than the Nazis
Steven rofl France and Britain declared war on Germany, after seeing to his citizens in Poland Hitler would have no business attacking anyone.
Patrick Parker this country has its faults but it is still the greatest country in the world. And you know how some countries don’t allow people any rights, especially the right to leave the country if you didn’t like what was going on there. Well this country is not like that and you can leave whenever you want. So how about getting the fuck out douchebag instead of bitching about it.
Jason Strom hey douchebag why do you live here if you feel that way. Go find a better place.
That's a little unfair, America hasn't orchestrated a mass genocide in YEARS
(can you smell the sarcasm)
the U.S. never had a policy of genocide, I dare you to find one.
Great video.
Thank you posting this excellent documentary . It made me very emotional to see these two great gentlemen. The US authorities should be ashamed of themselves for hounding Joe Louis for filthy lucre, after he had donated so much to worthy causes. My own experience and not being black, is that when a black wins he/she is usually welcome and heralded every where, but should they not win then " Bugger off sambo we do not want you here". A total disgrace and not understanding that roles could be reversed in the next life.
Maybe Schmelling had something in common with Louis, because that's what the Nazis did to Schmelling.
Great doc
Keep up the good work
GREAT VIDEO ENJOYED AND RESPECT TO BOTH MEN
Nice docu 👍
These two men set the example for good sportsmanship and humanity.
Good guys.
They thought Schmeling was the sacrificial lamb lmfao boy were they wrong.
Max Schemling was a true humanitarian who died a few months short of his 100th birthday. It's a shame that misfortune took hold in Joe Louis's life and that he never got a fair shake from the U.S. gov.
Where I'm from when you're full of goodness like these two gentlemen they say that you are FULL OF ALOHA! ❤🤙❤