Anne Applebaum, Author, "Iron Curtain"
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- Our guest is Pulitzer Prize winning author Anne Applebaum. She discusses her new historical narrative, "Iron Curtain: The Crushing of Eastern Europe, 1944-1956." Applebaum examines the effects of communist totalitarianism in East Germany, Poland and Hungary from the end of World War II to the uprisings of 1956 in the years following Stalin's death.
Anne Applebaum is one of the public intellectuals who raise my spirits and renew my faith in human progress.
I read her book , Red Famine (2017), and it's a must read. Like a window to a world that you've never seen.
Anne.. you are simply fascinating.
Pani Anno dziekuje za wspaniala prace jaka Pani wykonuje ................. mam nadzieje ze ciemni ludzie zrozumieja co jest dobre a co zle dla podstawowego zycia kazdego narodu w europie ...... wspaniale sluchac takich ludzi dzeki ---- obywatel Polski i USA
Half way through her first book. We dont know how lucky we are not to have born in that time in that country. Absolutely nuts.
Well, like everything, it heavily depends on the societal position you were born in
Well, you (USA) had an immature little boy as your president for 4 years, and he tried a coup after losing the next election. I am very lucky to live today far away from you. ; ) And believe me, I know the history of the eastern europe, I live very close.
This is brilliant.
Anne Applebaum in her many articles and books have certainly changed the way I see the world especially the catastrophes that happened in so many countries. Her book on the Russian Gulag have opened up a subject long repressed, known but not widely and openly spoken, to my great surprise, not even by my Russian friend who are lecturing in university in my country. I don't quite understand why this is so. Are Russians still living in fear of their government or are they really going to let this dark episodes of their long history go without learning from it.
Ms. Jablonska - you are a credit to the best ideals of American journalism. Clear, rational explanations, descriptions, empathy and, most of all, understanding. Je t'aime.
cassubia 🤗 I love how you slavicized/polonized her name! It’s cool and cute!
She’s amazing, she writes marvelous books with tremendously talented use of language.
Picked up this book recently, quite randomly, in a second hand bookshop. Wow, really very interesting and totally readable! A great woman. Fantastic writer.
Despite being a conservative, she's a bright and capable researcher/writer. He book Gulag was great. She's on Sam Harris' podcast about Putin last year - well worth a listen. D.A., NYC
She is the kind of conservative that I don't agree with but that I respect. I advise everybody to listen to Sam Harris' podcast when he had Mrs Applebaum as a guest. The topic was Trump. She was brilliant, there are no more conservatives like her in the Republican party.
The heck does one (conservative) necessarily have to do with the other (bright and capable)?
Bright and capable are to be found among all political persuasions. So too moral and good.
She’s not conservative? She endorsed Clinton.
Just discovered her this week. She is a fantastic speaker.
The interview is too simplistic for Ms. Applebaum’s level of expertise but I enjoyed it anyway. I expected more intellectual prowess from C-Span. How naive of me!
The interviewer is the weak link here. Did he even read the goddam book. Some of his comments and questions make me wonder what book he read and then towards the end he goes off the grid asking questions about China. I’m surprised she didn’t get up and walk off. How patient she was to put up with this and how inept CSpan was do allow this person to conduct the interview.
Anne is just brilliant and her honesty shines through,
She is a lier and pros ti tu te to we$t interests...war, hunger, poverty are a necessity to capitalism survive.
*«The Russians are so accustomed to the Cold War, that they will not be able to conduct international relations in any other forms. Instead of building modern roads, they will be threatening peace with war». - Winston Churchill, British Prime Minister (1874-1965), House of Commons*
Very interesting ! Never knew about all this
And you should not believe it!
It is for brainwashed!
Enjoyed your discussion and poems. Engaged me throughout.
I’m a poet specializing in Japanese forms: haiku, tanka, haibun, kyoka, senryu. I hope you don’t mind me sharing a tanka and my haiku, a tribute poem to Bashō’s frog with commentary by the late AHA founder and poet Jane Reichhold who considered my Basho haiku among her top 10 haiku of all time. What an honor.
Here’s the Bashō poem and commentary:
Bashō’s frog
four hundred years
of ripples
At first the idea of picking only 10 of my favorite haiku seemed a rather daunting task. How could I review all the haiku I have read in my life and decide that there were only 10 that were outstanding? Then realized I was already getting a steady stream of excellent haiku day by day through the AHA
forum.
The puns and write-offs based on Basho's most famous haiku are so
numerous I would have said that nothing new could be said with this
method, but here Al Fogel proved me wrong. Perhaps part of my delight in this haiku lies in the fact that I agree with him. Here he is saying one thing
about realism-ripples are on a pond after a frog jumps in, but because it refers back to Basho and his famous haiku, he is also saying something about the haiku and authors who have followed him. We, and our work, are just ripples while Basho holds the honor of inventing the idea of the
sound of a frog leaping is the sound of water
As haiku spreads around the world, making ripples in more and larger ponds, its ripples are wider-including us all. But his last word reminds us all that we are only ripples and our lives are that ephemeral. It will be the frogs that will remain.
~~
And my tanka:
returning home
from a Jackson Pollock
exhibition
I smear my face with paint
and turn into art
~~
-All love in isolation
from Miami Beach,
Florida.
Al
I agree it is continuing to this day but in another form. Have you read her history on the GULAG system? I have. I have also visited the only remaining Prison camp from the Soviet Era - Perm-36. Just down the road is Perm-35 which is a Labour camp that continues functioning to this day. North Koreans are also being "loaned" to Russia as cheap labour in other camps. The main issue is the historic revisionism, the denial of the breath and scope of the camps at their height as well as indifference.
..and of course China have borrowed the same idea and system, disguised by the program i.e., Rehabilitation Camps, Re-education Camp to produce cheap products for export to the entire world. Perhaps China's prison for profit worked and now the North Korean regime is doing just the same.
so brilliant woman.. happy to stumble upon.. Kominterna today is trying to come back in EU and all over..
Willhelm Ropke's _The German Question_ (1945), among other things and with Ms. Applebaum, explores the question of how authoritarian regimes are successfully imposed and maintained. A bit tediously presented at times, and focusing on general means only, yet a usefully insightful analysis by Mr. Ropke. He deals primarily with National Socialism (Nazism), tangentially with Italian fascism---which for purposes of the analysis shared many fundamental similarities with Nazism---and only incidentally with Soviet communism. In sum, an educational look from a bird's-eye view.
Edmired to listen Mrs. Anne E. Applebaum.
the Museum in Fulton is currently closed due to Covid-19 pandemic bu5 i’m going there as soon as practical
What a brilliant mind, courage and honesty!
Ordered the book today after watching this interview, the interviewer is ice cold though. Peter Robinson from Hoover institution is brilliant at these kind of interviews
Brief Bio:
I’m Al Fogel born in 1945 and at an early age began writing poems. In 1962 I was introduced to a neighbor who just returned from Avatar Meher Baba’s “ East west” gathering and handed me a book titled “The Everything and the Nothing” that included brief but powerful passages by Meher Baba that touched me deeply and i became a “ Baba Lover” I continued writing poems and in 2010 while on Jane Reichhold’s AHA website workshopping poems I befriended a Chinese man who helped me perfect my Senryu and Haibun.
Subsequently I am now considered one of the nations leading authorities on Tanka , Senryu, and Haibun.
Here are some examples of each of my specialties
senryu
~
dentist chair
the hygienist removes
my Bluetooth
~
Internet argument
all his words in CAPS
hers in EMOTICONS
~
after the divorce
he spends more time
at the dollar store
~
damsel in distress
clarke kent still searching
for a phone booth
~
cauliflower ears
once a contender
now boxing vegetables
~
under
the influence -
moonshine
~
Audubon sale
all variety of seeds. . .
early birds welcome
~
Buddhist fortune cookie
the unfolded paper reads
“ better luck next birth!”
~
sudden downpour. . .
the adults run
for shelter
** as you can see, senryu is usually humorous, but it can also be serious. For example, the following two of mine are horrific and heartbreaking ( dealing with the Holocaust):
~
cattle cars
between the slats
human eyes
~
stutthof -
the stench of burnt hair
from the chimneys
~
Tanka ( I already posted the Jackson Pollock one about painting his face but here’s another Tanka
~
Here is another Tanka:
thrift store purchase
inside the leather jacket
a tarnished half-heart
~
Haibuns
The Mathematics of Retribution
“Karma is i fathomable,”
I inform her
It’s late and our conversation turns heavy
“ Seems simple to me, “my girlfriend responds.
“If I murder you, then it’s reasonable that I will be murdered in this or another life to balance the ledger.”
“ Not necessarily so” I’m quick to rejoin.
“What if you murdered me in this life
because I murdered you in a prior life
karmic debts and dues are now equalized.”
“But what if I get caught and I go to jail for life. Where’s the equal payback in that?”
“As I said, karma is unfathomable.”
We continue discussing reincarnation and then add the possibilities of “group karma” to the mix
Finally, at about midnight, we fall asleep
Stutthof -
the stench of burnt hair
from the chimneys
~~
Mama
There were days when I pretended to be too sick to go to school - - just for mamas loving embrace -her arms the heat of home
Even with the onset of dementia, her cheerfulness was so contagious it was a joy being around her despite the illness.
She made everyone laugh with her spontaneous unpredictable behavior.
nursing home
bumper wheelchair
her favorite pastime
Once a week I would whisk her away from the assisted-living facility and we would spend several hours together -grabbing a meal or frequenting some of her favorite second-hand stores where she loved to shop and donate clothes.
When we drove to her favorite thrift in November, her dementia worsened.
thrift store
the dress mama donated
she wants to buy
On a cold December morn mama passed.
The funeral was simple. There was a light drizzle as the family gathered at the gravesite. One by one, with eyes full of rain, we said our last goodbyes.
autumn twilight -
oh mama tuck me under
hug me one more time
~
‘Round Midnight
It was a huge ballroom on the top floor of a building on Broadway --an important midtown crossroads in the heart of the Great White Way.
My uncle still talks with reverence about how -in his heyday -he would travel by rail to the corner of Lenox and walk inside to the beat of jungle music. Who knew what to expect? One night you might be listening with rapt attention to Theloneous Monk and Dizzy Gillespie the godfathers of bebop in their signature beret caps, or the Nicholas Brothers flashing their wild acrobatic spins and splits, or enchanted by the sweet taste of Brown Sugar -with Bojangles out front. And when the Bird was in flight, even the moon was not high enough.
But in 1940 the ballroom closed its doors to make way for a commercial housing development and another kind of night.
new Harlem
the a-train replaced
by the bullet
~
Atlantic City New Jersey
I had just graduated from high school
I remember stopping for saltwater taffy -as evening journeyed slowly into night. Nearing curfew, we sat on a protruded sandy enclave--holding hands, looking out at the ocean, not saying much. In the distance the lights from an ocean liner flickered as the night kept coming on in...
first “french kiss”
under the boardwalk
“over the moon!”
~~
All love,
Al
it is just for me mr Lamb sounds like James Lipton?
For what it’s worth. I’ve always wondered about what made life in the Eastern block countries so horrible compared to life in the West. Yes, I was told countless times that life beyond the Iron Curtain was barely worth living and that the communists had their hands into everything but it wasn’t until this book that things were broken down and revealed. I’m age 61, retired military- I was 29 when the wall came down- and realize from this book I wouldn’t have made to to 61 living in a communist ruled country. I would have fought those f**kers every inch of the way.
But then they might torture and kill your loved ones. tough situation.
“life beyond the Iron Curtain was barely worth living” - Don’t generalize too much from what some people told you. Many are actually nostalgic about the communist years. And the book only covers 1944-1956.
Yet you're 62y and still stu pid to believe a warmonger like this woman...being old doesn't give anyone realization it seems
At a few stages the guy is just asking whatever pops into his head, a poor interviewer. Applebaum is incredibly interesting as usual.
Brilliant woman. Great read.
I don't know her personally but she is a superb writer and historian.
+rick p She is a superb LIER.
"Brilliant woman" is exactly right. Wonderful interview
@@Matteo1965100 exactly.
Just because something still exists doesn't mean it is not history. Specifically it is the history that is being revised in Russia.
🌷Thank You Very Much For This Explanation on the History (1944 - 1956) of the 😭IRON CURTAIN🌷😭🌷
Will A Better Outcome Than 😥Cold War For 🌼Europe and the World🌺 Remain CERTAIN.💐🗺️👏
Hopefully REAL 👌DEMOCRACY🌻🙌🌻 Will PREVAIL🙌 (No More Former DDR/GDR)
🌷For That, 💯Germany🇩🇪/Poland🇵🇱/Hungary🇭🇺 a HOLY HAIL👏🌷👏
I find it interesting that someone so well educated and versed in systems of control, seemingly aligns herself with the politics of control here in the US today.
Where do you get that notion? She's nothing if not anti-Trump.
She is intellectually dishonest.
@@Pritchardia1 and anti-trump proponents are generally dishonest with themselves and others.
@@SK-mz4cq it’s disheartening because people believe it. This level of dishonesty should always come with a heafty price. People need to be held responsible for their lies that penetrate the masses.
*The problem of today’s Russia goes back to 1917 when the country was taken over by gangsters who called themselves “communists.” For those who have studied Russian history, knows that the Russian government is governed by mobs and gangs, where power is concentrated in a few hands. And wherever such a concentration of power exists, there you shall find great crimes and great criminals - that is to say, psychopaths.
This is the character of the Russian government.
In 1991, when the Soviet Union collapsed, power remained concentrated in a few hands. The government was not really accountable to anyone.
Despite this underlying reality, everything was arranged so that it all appeared to be moving in the direction of democratic capitalism and proper checks and balances, but nothing of the kind ever happened. The objective of making changes in the first place was to fool the West.*
Very odd line of questioning at times.
True
Lol, right? Out of nowhere, the most awkward thrusts, like: "WHO...are your children?" "How many of the faces can you name out of the communist cavalcade that just flashed before our eyes to the tune of an East German party elegiac? Castro doesn't count!" It's a bit like watching Dana Carvey's old SNL parodies of the McLaughlin Group. To his credit, though, he did get around to asking a few very sharp questions, right when my guard was down. Dr. Applebaum was not caught so flat-footed. I guess that's what separates us from the big-leaguers.
I'm 100-odd pages into this book and it's fascinating and very enjoyable. Edit - Have finished it now and have found it to be incredibly educational. I've visited many of the previous soviet-bloc countries and find them fascinating places, however the narratives presented to the average tourist in them are quite simple, often one-dimensional either for or against the communist past. I feel that I now understand the experiences and history of these countries much better and am inspired to do more reading (and perhaps some more visiting). Thank you Anne.
Trotsky and the Jews is a good book as far as secular Jewish history
what a smart woman. I d marry her today
Too late 😉 our Radek stole her heart over 30 years ago. I hear ‘ya, though. Since she lives in Warsaw I participate in each and every single meeting with her (books author’s meetings, political debates etc.) Love listening to her speaking Polish. Obviously, you can hear she’s not native Polish speaker, makes grammar mistakes every now and then. Yet, still she’s more than fluent, sounds the same smart, her vocabulary is so sophisticated and bursting with erudition, spotted on and matching the context. She’s definitely smart, intelligent woman. I think our Foreign Affairs Minister, Radosław Sikorski (he was a Minister in 2010’s and so he is after last autumn elections) owes his wife genuinely significant knowledge , especially in terms of Russia’s attack on Ukraine and the region which are widely discussed issues, these days.
She blinks so much jesus
Anne is into propaganda
Did she mention who invented the gulag; the Bolshevik "Revolution"?
What point are you trying to make Jan?
Yes she mentioned that on her 500pages in Gulag: A History.
The first gulag was started by by Lenin after the 'success' of the Bolshevik revolution. Stalin just extended the system after that perhaps to the extent of which Lenin himself would have abhorred. It has been described very clearly in Aleksandr Solzhernitsyn's book 'The Gulag Archipelago' (1973).
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translate song. ahahaha ; )
Hahaha this aged well...
Bad interview, always asked the wrong question. The first question should be "what processes did the Soviet use to change Eastern European countries into communist regimes." and go from there.
HaoSci 26:10
"what processes did the Soviet use to change Eastern European countries into communist regimes." TANKS?
They picked the wrong guy for the job
The Soviets had the blessing of their Allies - the British, Americans and French... but shhh... no one likes to talk about that because it then puts the Allies under a bad light, and we can't possibly have that now can we?
One word. Freemasons. in her first book all pictures of the hierarchy make freemason sign.
@@thanks7158 she understands perfectly who our masters are
It is not historical it is present and on going. Interns are being tortured and continue to be imprisoned. This is not a past fact but it is offset by this and other academics historical revisionism. I see you are living up to your name.
It was but is now returning since Putin came to power. Putin is secretly 'redeploying' the system to stay in power. No wonder majority of Russians including those directly affected by this system have limited freedom to openly talk and write about it. Perhaps the government especially under Vladimir Putin would want the generation to fade away in order to hide it from the young generation of Russians.
Is she Jewish?
Maybe the Hungarians appear to be 'far right' because they've been held captive by so many different 'far left' regimes over centuries, not just decades. When you've been stripped of your freedom and liberty for so long, you hang on to everything you possibly can and push forward, determined that you never have to go back to where you once were.
SHE SHOULD STOP TALK POLITICS,INSTEAD,BETTER MAKE SOME HOT MOVIES HARD CORE!!!LOL
i read the book, very stupid full with lies, this book is now in the garbage can, i hate myself that i lost my time on this
Read 'Post War' by Tony Judt
@ vintage Could you elaborate it ?
@@kauffmann101 I was sure it's a lie!
She is a lie