Walmart Onn 4k Pro Google TV Streaming Box Review
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- čas přidán 5. 06. 2024
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VIDEO INDEX:
00:00 - Intro
01:01 - In the Box & Remote Versions
01:37 - Google Assistant & Speaker
02:36 - Remote Finder & Assistant Mute Switch
03:02 - Ports & Connectivity
03:28 - Dolby Vision Support for Streaming Services
05:03 - Tech Specs
05:53 - Interface
06:33 - Playback Performance
07:01 - Multiple Account Support
08:05 - Universal Search and Issues
09:02 - Google Assistant Demo
10:07 - Apps
11:01 - Star Button
11:29 - Free Live TV
12:28 - Library Section
13:18 - Gaming Performance
14:31 - Game Streaming
15:23 - 3DMark Slingshot Benchmark
16:05 - Plex and Home Theater Enthusiasts
16:50 - Conclusion
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I just got one! I saw somebody posted in one of the streaming groups on Facebook and got online and happened to get the last one that was available out of about 10 Walmart stores in the Washington DC area. I had to drive to Alexandria, Virginia, which was about 20 miles away, I tried to buy more and they weren’t available. Thank you, Lon! I truly appreciate all of your videos and reviews and you’re just a genuinely nice guy! And have a good rest of your weekend
This is EXACTLY what my parents need. Unlike the $20 .onn Box, this both has a USB port AND supports reading files from exFAT formatted storage. Load up Projectivy Launcher & VLC, setup a USB drive with their DVD/Blu-ray content (and my mom’s dance workout videos… 😂) and suddenly they have a portable, easy to use, **offline** box while travelling or experiencing internet outages! At 1/4 the price of a Shield Pro!! Remarkable…
😂
Thanks for this, I'm definitely going to buy one for testing now!
The 1st-gen Walmart Onn 4k streaming boxes support NTFS for external storage using a standard Android OTG adapter, but the 2nd-gen is limited to FAT32! Since this new Pro version includes an actual USB port and 32GB of internal storage, this is a no-brainer decision for folks wanting a neato Kodi box to play all their 4k 100% public-domain content () offline!
Note: Nerdy folks can install LineageOS on the 1st-gen devices to enable exFAT support...
@@pedrojardon8122 I cannot recommend it enough! The Shield Pro still beats it in a couple of areas (namely, raw performance) but the 3GB of RAM & 32GB of internal storage helps a LOT. It’s just so frustrating that the 2nd-gen is so limited comparatively, though… (Here’s hoping it gets LineageOS someday!)
One note on the exFAT support: it seems like the device won’t mount anything on startup. You need to plug or unplug/replug your USB storage once the box is fully booted. Not the biggest deal in the world but something to note if you are using it as a travel box. (It really does make a fantastic offline box!)
@@purplefuku Thanks for tip about "auto-mounting"...that's one less surprise for me when testing lol
Yeah, the extra RAM is nice too, that might help with the some of the emulation stuff I play with...
@@purplefuku the shield pro is $200 and the ONN Pro is $50. Can't compare a Rolls Royce to a Honda. That is why I own 2 Shields, I call it android on steroids
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The review I was waiting for, Lon never disappoints!
I am here to serve!
@@LonSeidman love you Lon ❤️
Thanks for the demo and info Lon, have a great day
Very nice review. Covered pros and cons for me to decide. Thanks.
I love this box!!.….I have 4 of the previous models in each room and now Im going to exchange them to this model
Onn 4k Pro Google TV Streaming Box is extremely easy to set up and use. I love the features on this device, such as hey google, chromcast and dolby vision.
I just bought the same box yesterday and also got the non back lit remote
Thanks for the great review. I'm hoping to get one soon.
I wonder if music only going through HDMI is related to CZcams being ad supported and this is a gentle push to make you turn on a display? Google made an audio only Chromecast but quickly snuffed it out. Does it function differently with a music subscription?
A thorough and great review as always Lon. I will say that the Google TV's recommendation engine is a weakness, not a strength. I will be installing Projectivy Launcher on mine post haste when it is delivered tomorrow.
I also don't like how the Google TV dedicated app page doesn't just show all the apps on a single vertical page (like it used to in Android 9), and instead forces you to scroll side ways to see them.
Thanks Lon. From looking around at some other reviews, it seems like there might be a few minor issues with the box. Would be interested to see you cover Walmart's new 8 and 10 inch tablets too
It's a nice box and a good value. Got the one with the "Free TV"/backlit buttons. One thing I found is that it currently doesn't support Sling TV, which I think has the best interface for FAST channels.
I got Plex on now, Star Wars 4K remastered, smooth as glass. Kodi plays 20gb 4ks no problem. Tivimate live TV never a problem. The new Onn Pro, and a wifi 1g spectrum connection.
What is the power brick voltage and current/wattage? Thanks for your review!
got it a week ago and it is my favorite one yet by far. My remote is the same as yours.
Even on Walmarts site, it shows that Remote too.
is there any lag? Like on the Chromecase with GTV.
Hey LON I bought one and I think it's pretty good. I'm glad they added Dolby Vision and Dolby Atmos on this model. I didn't get a backlit remote control either. Oh well it's not the end of the world not getting a better remote control.
Thanks Lon for this review. Just the extra memory, Ethernet plug and USB make it worth the extra cost. You would have to spend $30 to purchase a hub attached to the oll ONN to get the same thing if you needed Ethernet. I have the $20 ONN box and find it as good if not better than my original Chomecast with GTV.
Can you consider testing this box with the GT Media Next Gen tuner to see if you get any better performance out of the GT Media stick?
I would note that the remote you received is the one shown as being included in the listing on the web site.
I'm glad you brought up the difference in remote. From what I was able to research before watching your video is there are 3 remotes and I located the model numbers to help
What are the model numbers
@@lionintu Onn 4K Pro boxes that include the premium remote appear to have manufacturing dates of 2410A, 2411A, and 2412A. Boxes that have dates of 2405A through 2408A include the standard remote. I have not yet seen anyone post about boxes labeled as 2409A.
Just received 2409A with the updated remote
Lon Thanks for posting this video
I bought mine solely based on it having additional RAM. 3GB vs the normal 2GB makes a real difference in overall performance for the basics of just simply navigating interfaces.
How well does the tablo app perform? On my firestick 4k max 1st gen it takes forever for the tablo app to load and navigate around. Playback, fast fwd and rewind are fine but opening videos and deleting videos suck.
How well can you control playback and video selection with voice commands?
Thanks Lon, great video. I think I will wait until Google comes out with their next streaming player...
Will they??? I doubt as present time all TV's are integrated with Google tv interface, I too did wait longer for a perfect Google tv box like all Pro features like Roku ultra with a battery remote and headphone jack rechargeable battery. Google TV box should be with Ethernet, latest Wi-Fi 6E, USB c and USB 3.0 with Bluetooth 5 option.
So far its amazing!
Does the unit support hdmi 2.1? I primarily use my Android box to stream from moonlight. Would be great if i can stream games at 120hz
Does it support HDR10+? Thinking about using this with my BenQ HT4550i which does not support Dolby Vision, but does support HDR10+.
I added a 2 terabyte external SSD to mine with all my series and movies and it works great.
Amlogic has really gotten some mileage out of the S905 platform. I guess if it isn't broke reiterate. My LePotato SBC runs on the S905 1st gen been a good board.
LePotato?
Thank you for the info👍🏽
How good is the doby vison and doby autmos 4k
Finally got one of these after searching for nearly a week. I'm pretty impressed. Real world performance is quite snappy compared to the 2023 model and is nearly as fast as my Shield Pro.
Nowhere near that man not even close
@@michaeldawson6565 I'm talking real world performance, not benchmarks, and as just a streaming box. The Onn Pro is just as snappy as my Shield Pro.
My shield pro is slow with apps outside of the google play store
YES ITS SNAPPY NOW BUT HOW WILL IT BE AFTER TIME USING IT AND IT WILL SLOW DOWN IT DEPENDS HOW MANY APPS YOU HAVE INSTALLED ON YOUR DEVICE THAT SLOWS THINGS ABIT
@@matthewgandy9774 I have the original ONN streaming box and it still works fine.
Can we add the Wyze app on the device
What we really need is a new Shield.
Nobody wants to spend 400$ when we can do the same on a device of 50$
GOOD STUFF Lon, thanks for the real world review. I think this will be a popular choice since amazon is driving customers away in droves with its overbearing control & bloat. For instance, I'm just looking for something comparable to Firestick but with more storage & more control. I won't be using it for gaming so that doesn't concern me. As you said, it is disappointing that it won't play music like other assistant speakers do...I hope this gets added soon with an update.
Where will you use the box [or not?]
Can you plug your usb straight into this box because when I do mines keeps saying its not connected?
Got mine ordered the other day and will be here monday it looks. Just grabbed the 20 dollar unit a bit ago to play with and can't wait to play around with this cheap thing as well.
The Onn Pro Box runs good but, the video output quality is not as bright as other boxes. I have a Verizon Andoid Tv Box, The first Onn TV box, A NVidia Shield TV Pro 2017 and 2019 Box.. The verizon Box, The first Onn and second Box shows Brighter while the other boxes show the video quality slightly darker. You have to raise the brightness.. The Nvidia shield Tv Pro is not Vivid like the Verizon & The first and second onn boxes.
I received the same remote.
I wanted to have the speaker to work with the TV. I have the Roku soundbar I use with my PC. I thought I could use the Onn in my bedroom. My TV there is very quiet.
I want to add an ATSC3 tuner to it. As soon as a good option is available.
If I were Walmart, I'd drop the $15 streamer. I would just feature the 4k and this one.
I use Roku for my main TV. That is still my favorite. But these little boxes are great
Gtmedia hdtv 3.0 tuner
@@hectormanuel8360 Is it still encrypted?
There's definitely a market for people for the $15 one. Like my mom and my sister could give a s*** about 4K. And they've been able to get ridiculous deals on 1080p TVs as a result
@@michaelcorcoran8768 I feel it's too slow, and buffers too much.
@@hectormanuel8360 The Antenna Man calls it as a work still in progress.
What does this do? Can I just do it with my laptop? Same exact thing?
May I connect a usb c dac dongle to output the audio?
Good review. 👍🏽
Still no Screen Calibration unfortunately when corners get cut out on third party apps like Firestick has
Dude they already got a onn 7 pro it looks sick with the papaya color please review it has a flashlight!!!
Seems like my Google Chromcast with Google TV for my TV's around the house (but my Living Room) is still winners.
Thanks for the review Lon. Do you know if this box supports USB audio? In other words can I connect a USB DAC to the USB port and then connect the DAC to an amp rather than using HDMI for audio?
If it's supported on Android it'll likely work. I can take a look in a followup.
@@LonSeidman It does work on my Nvidia Shield and that's why I was wondering if I'd work on this one.
The issue I can see is how often and what priority will this get for apps when there is an issue or an update? I have used almost every popular streaming device and all apps across different brands run and look differently. Some apps break on one device and do not on others. Some apps have extra features (Fubo on Apple 4K for example) and some don't. The developers have to be on top of updating the apps for these different platforms and I wonder how Onn will fare when something goes wrong.
Extremely through and useful review Lon.
Was waiting for your review!!
Right on!
App mode best get rid all that stuff on home srceen
I didn't get the backlit remote either
This looks perfect for my bedroom tv.
I replaced my Google Chromecast With Google TV 4K with this Onn TV 4K Pro Box and honestly the Onn TV 4K Pro Box performs way better and it doesn't have Lag or Slowness like the Google Chromecast With Google TV 4K. If Walmart can keep these Devices Updated consistently and keep them at a good Price then I think they will take over Amazon and possibly even Google Roku and Apple for the best Streaming Devices out there. I'm still keeping my Google Chromecast With Google TV 4K as a Backup because that's what Google has over Onn is consistent Updates since Google is Stock Android but like I said if Walmart can keep the Onn Brand Devices Updated consistently then I can surely see them leading the way with the best Streaming Devices. You also get way more with the Onn TV 4K Pro Box then you do with the Google Chromecast With Google TV 4K or other Brand Streaming Devices especially at a $50.00 Dollar Price point you can't beat it.
Which better fire or onn
What about recording local broadcast?
2:18 is the device showing up in Google Home? If so can you open it in Home, hit the settings cog (⚙️) then hit "Audio"? My Google Home devices have a setting for default music player output.
Yes tried that but it doesn’t have the option.
When you had network issues, were you using Ethernet or WiFi? Other reviews have shown the WiFi is faster. Another review tested a USB Gigabit Ethernet adapter, and got over 400Mb.
I have only tried wifi on mines and it seems pretty fast with my wifi 6 network. I was running 4k movies from my Plex server over the wifi perfectly. So for that reason I am already happy with my purchase.
Should have came with a Gigabit Ethernet port instead of the obsolete 10/100 port. That would be more useful than the remote finder button or any of the other gimmicks.
Looks great, but i abandoned my shield and firetv max for apple tv. I just love the no ads and simple interface plus it works amazing with airpods. Infuse works great over kodi.
You didn’t just abandon it, but you failed it and now that product is not in your life anymore.
couldn't you just change the launcher on the shield TV?
@@JeskidoYT WRONG. YOUS may not. I hope that helps.
I dumped my Shield TVs too. Have an Apple TV in the living room and a Raspberry Pi 5 for the minor watching I do in the bedroom. Won't have any streaming box or streaming service full of ads. Sick of the same insurance ads over and over.
@@AG-bp3ll WRONG
Lon, do you use the Nvidia Shield or Apple TV for watching Plex?
Mostly the Shield given the type of media I use.
In this case, "pro" just means additional connectivity from Ethernet and USB. I bet you were running into thermal issues with the GeForce Now session. It's a cheap device with expected outcomes. Thanks for the review!
Would love to be able to integrate my TV tuner channels into Google live TV channels.
This is so tempting! My Chromecast is starting to show its age. Should I wait for the new Chromecast or get this one....?
Wait until Google releases theirs.
Hopefully someone releases a box with updated specs to replace the Shield Pro. I highly doubt it though.
I'm in the same boat, I'm ok with my Chromecast with Google TV at this time, navigating the interface can be a bit jenky at times, but other than that it does everything I as of it. I'm curious to see what version 2 has in stock.
Mine works fine when playing 24fps content. Go into Display & Sound > Match content frame rate > and set it to seamless.
Plex works fine for me as well. Even streaming high bit rate 4K.
Also, you can get wired gigabit networking with a usb hub with gigabit ethernet built in or via a usb gigabit nic.
Finally, it DOES support exfat format over usb, as some people are saying it only supports Fat32. They're wrong, my exfat formatted usb flash drive with 156GB of game roms works just fine. Just do not enable "usb debugging" in developer options if you want to be able to see your usb flash drive, ext HDD, etc. via retro arch.
Oh, and turn transition animations down to .5 in the developer options. It makes it much more snappy. Hope this helps answer some questions people may have.
Not all apps support 24p - Netflix and Plex do, Disney+ does not
It looks good, but they say that the Dolby Vision on Netflix is always on. You have to manually turn it off, it that true? It should automatically knows when to turn it off.
It' s true, currently bugged.
So what 50$ solves that problem easy..people this days are so lazy to even do something manual now lol
Lon, since this has USB 3, do you think this would have enough power to be a Plex server or a Channels DVR server? It has the same amount of ram as the Shield does and that runs them both.
Unlikely it'll do well at that - I don't think the hardware will support transcoding.
@@LonSeidman ok, thanks.
I wouldn't try running a media server on this device.
This actually looks pretty decent for the price. I need something for before bed and during workouts that can stream well. I had considered a Xbox Series S but don't really want to drop $300 when I'm mostly going to stream video. Assuming the Wi-Fi in this thing is solid (it'll have to stretch all the way to the other side of the apartment), I think I may just grab this. Being able to load up some old Google Play game purchases is a decent bonus, along with being able to use it offline with a USB drive. It honestly seems more consumer-friendly than other big name brands (like Roku), and that's something I'm happy to support. Honestly, I'm surprised it's coming from Wal-Mart, of all companies. 😅
Can this record TV shows?
Is the remote able to turn off/on my TV and soundbar, or does it only control the box?
Via Cec I believe so but not IR
corsair elgato 4K X?
Wait how do you have 2 Plex home admins?
I have seen people get a hub for the higher speed Ethernet hookup for 4k speeds
Shouldn't have to do that. They should have included a Gigabit Ethernet port which has been the standard for over a decade.
Might as well use WiFi, as long as your network supports Wi-Fi 6 & your coverage is good those speeds will easily exceed what you get on that ancient Ethernet port.
I have an Android smart TV, is a standalone box better?
Usually unless a Sony TV, it is better to use an external box
I'm gonna have to figure out how to connect wyze to my Google and/or Alexa home.
That was awesome pulling it up like that.
How does this compare to the Amazon's Firestick 4k Pro?
Much easier and faster to sideload apps
Is there any Shield alternative with 1Gbps Ethernet port?
None that I've found yet which is disappointing. Love my Shield but it is due for an update.
The fire TV cube.
@@john26262 firetv has 100mbps port.
@@john26262
Th Firetv Cube 3 doesn't have a Gigabit Ethernet port. The network port is 10/100. It has a USB 2.0 port you can use for an Gigabit Ethernet adapter but USB 2.0 speeds are less than half the speed of Gigabit Ethernet. Amazon went the cheap route with the ports of their Flagship model.
@@john26262
The FireTv Cube 3 does not have a Gigabit Ethernet port. The network port is 10/100. You can use a USB to Gigabit Ethernet adapter but the port is only USB 2.0. So the speeds will be less than half of what you could theoretically get from a full speed Gigabit Ethernet port.
The main reason that I purchased this was because of the lag on my Chromecast 4K with Google TV. I set this new Onn 4K Pro up, but I've been out of town so haven't had a chance to test it. Is lag an issue on this device?
Yes; this is a huge problem with the cheaper $20 Onn box also. They get extremely laggy. I’m not too optimistic this “Pro” box will fare any better in the longer term.
@@curtispavlovec you are confirming that the new $50 Pro device has the lag issue as well?
@@fryeguy115 No. I’m saying that I suspect the new Pro device will exhibit the same lag issues after a time as the other products - especially the cheaper $20 Onn box. It was pretty snappy when new too, but it doesn’t last long. Even the CCwGTV has suffered the same fate, albeit the hardware is nearing 4 years old there.
@@curtispavlovec oh okay I gotcha. Fingers crossed that it isn't true! Maybe this is the one lol. Maybe that extra gig of RAM was the turning point. Plus some software optimizations.
It feels less laggy - are you referring to menu navigation or gaming?
Was really excited for this product. However I don’t want a google assistant speaker and also will most likely be slow and no USB C. I really hope Google drops a streaming box with 4 to 6gb of ram and 64gb of storage.
Too bad it doesn't have basic analog out via a 3.5mm Aux or RCA out. Would have been a great option for the discontinued chromecast audio!
I wish you would of covered the settings on this and what you can control,like if you can change it to only stream in HD to save on data.
That's on an app-by-app basis.
@@LonSeidman What?I am talking about the setting on the device itself I have not found anything like that in the app settings.Hulu will force 4k if available unless I set my firestick to show 1080 in the display settings of the firestick.
Yes you can click the gear icon on the remote and force it to a 1080p resolution overall. Similar to other Google / Android TV devices.
@@LonSeidman cool thanks
Wow great overall analysis
We are not going to have this official in our Walmart in Canada, exactly like last one , we should to buy this from eBay or Amazon after very long period of time for 2,3 times of the money you guys paying if we are lucky, So many people doesn't have even the last onn box , Wich is so sad for us even with 2 hours drive a part
What about local channels? 🤔
Is there any disadvantage to this compared to the Google hardware?
Inside they are similar but here you get the ethernet and USB port without needing additional accessories.
two things, would I be able to download the Channels DVR application and my HD home run TV and record television programs?
what about accessibility? Does this device have a built-in screen reader that would make it assessable for those people who are blind?
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Mine didn't come with the new backlit remote, so I am returning it until I get a "new remote" one, lol.
I got the same remote u got
GeForce Now hasn't locked up for me at all, although I'm using a Wi-Fi 6 connection that delivers about 600 Mbps up and down. Surprised that Lon didn't at least try Wi-Fi in order to see if that made a difference. Also, would have preferred to see plex and USB 3.0 actually being tested, rather than just commentary about how poorly they both performed. Would have liked to see what does work in plex, rather than just commentary about what doesn't work. Also, USB 3.0 tests well for me. For example, it will allow a USB 3.0 gigabit ethernet adapter to deliver around 500+ Mbps. I'm hopeful that improved plex audio support may come with firmware updates, since the processor does support all of those formats.
I have 300 internet speed from my provider and I only can get around 70 down on both wifi and Ethernet......but my Nvidia is getting 300 on both wifi and Ethernet.....wonder if am missing anything in settings
Use a separate internet plug with the three point 0
Can you put a web browser on it
I think there are browser apps, yes
now why release a Pro version with no specs upgrade, just a different form factor? So bizarre Walmart. Any alternatives to support Plex playback?
It does have spec upgrades the processor is a little better I'd get it if I new I was getting the backlit remote
Stremio and Emby work great
does usb dongle work on usb gigabit?
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Can it play 4K REMUX?
Doubt it.
Dolby Atmos support?
Yes.
Does this support HDR10+?
It should but mine didn't. In the menu it says Format Info, Enabled Format HDR10, HDR10+. But it doesn't play either one. My Firestick Max and Shield do. My Denon receiver "Info" shows when HDR content is being played. My TV is Samsung QN85A.
Does the non pro have 3GB ram?
Non pro just has 2GB
CZcams doesn't work on mine.
Oh cool! Can attach a webcam and use Google meet etc again and not have to pay Nvidia shield pricing