Philip Yancey: Why Trump's Language Damages Our Nation's Civility
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- čas přidán 5. 09. 2024
- Best-selling Christian author Philip Yancey joins Morning Joe to discuss his book "Where the Light Fell: A Memoir" and the intersection of evangelicals, politics & race.
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I appreciate him being honest saying that he was taught racism from the pulpit of his church. A lot of people would’nt admit that. People like him make the world a better place ❤
And the Rev admitted that he also said things he shouldnt until he was taken aside and told he had to choose who he wanted to be and what he wanted to fight. So important to admit such things.
I’m Black and was born in FL in the late 50s. Don’t believe Joe. His church taught racism otherwise they would have become allies.
Jackie Jackie shhhh I see 👀 dead people 🤣 😂 💀 let's go Brandon 🚶♂️ 😂 mid-terms coming red 👋 🔉 👋 🤣 😂
@@barryrammer7906 you must be one of those evangelicals
@@marydevonshire4655 no I'm devil worshiper like you
When I lived in Alabama our neighbor was a Baptist pastor. They only asked me to church one time. I wanted to know where all the black people were. I was told they had their own church, this one was for whites only. Although this was the 70's I'm sure it hasn't changed much today.
Martin Luther King, Jr said that the most segregated hour in America was 11 AM on Sunday morning. Still true in many places.
Religion is just poison. It creates people who can’t think rationally.
Wow sounds like 1950s Jim Crow Mississippi
Sounds like Biden and his segregation of schools
You assume too much.
Thanks. This is a great piece with things that aren't spoken about often enough.
The strength of character it takes to openly admit "I was born and bred a racist" can only be admired after hearing him say that it took a full conversion for him to lose that way of thinking. Without this second admission you are only left with the first.
People seems to forget the whole world were different in the past. The same goes for exampel with jokes and sexual conduct. Everyone over 40-50 years has done, said or experienced something that wouldn't be acceptable today. And normal humans evolve and follow the time they live in. Others (like MAGA's) wants to reverse evolvement/evolution so they can feel safe because they can't adjust. A part of understanding the norms of the society changing, is also to admit wrongdoing in the past.
Thank you Philip, Mika, Joe, and Rev!!!
"Those that can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire
You mean, like the belief in an invisible friend that answers your prayers?
@@donnewton7858 Exactly. Good people will do good things, bad people will do bad things, but to get good people to do bad things, it takes religion.
@@rhondah1587 Close. To get bad people to do good things, it takes religion. Chuck Colson is a perfect example.
You mean, like free the slaves in England and the US? Do you mean, like found the Red Cross? Do you mean, like feed hungry children of the world through "World Vision" and
"Compassion?" Do you mean, like disaster relief after hurricanes and earthquakes by "Samaritan's Purse?" Do you mean like founding schools like Harvard and Princeton? All these "atrocities" as you call them are Christian founded and Christian based. You really need to get out more, Joe.
Thank you for this conversation. Decency and holding ourselves to higher standards are something we should be talking about on the airways. We’re lost if we can’t have these conversations in our media.
👊🔥✌
If we stand by and do nothing when less fortunate are being attacked we become complicit.
Especially regarding violence.
We need to send a clear message racism and racist language is not allowed in our society. GOP leadership needs to be shown the door and be repudiated for allowing the horrible discourse.
Vote blue midterms 🇺🇸 💙 2022 for civility and decency.
love your enemies said Christ, do good to them that hate you and pray for them that persecute you
A eye for a eye .
@@Muttinchopsforeverstrong Jesus quoted that exact verse when he said:
"You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.’
But I tell you, do not resist an evil person.
If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also.
And if anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, hand over your coat as well. If anyone forces you to go one mile, go with them two miles.
Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you."
(Matthew 5:38-48)
@@MartinFrancisEcclesiact I stop believing in the old pagan gods
@@Muttinchopsforeverstrong Jesus and the god of the Bible is not considered a pagan God. Pagan gods are considered the gods that the Greeks worshiped. A pagan God would be considering worshiping the Sun or Thor. They are pagan gods. Any God that is not in the Bible
@@gregscottfordemocracy Nope. Christianity is loaded with paganism. Look it up.
I moved to Indianapolis 4 years ago. I have visited several churches. I won't attend a church where the great commission is confused with politics. So many churches are not teaching the gospel according to the teaching of the Bible.
Thanks Philip Yancey for your faithfulness and your book that was the cause for my conversion
Great discussion everyone, and Joe Scarborough you have PREACHED the Truth!!!
I just gained new respect for Joe. He quoted my favorite Bible passage. Matthew 25: 31-46.
Joe straight preaching today 👍🏾👍🏾
How is holding up a pic of Hillary Clinton during donnie's little rally, not inciting violence against her?
I hold up pictures sometimes. I must be inciting violence.
I don't understand why no one has called Putin and Trump out as megalomaniacs
a person who is obsessed with their own power.
a person who suffers delusions of their own power or importance.
Hitler is listed as a megalomaniac from the past...
Why would you judge if you don’t know them as a person? Trumps more American than anyone calling him out of presidency, he even tried to help the mentally ill… he also made Americans more profitable and to help make a living economically, and yet people don’t talk about that.
Good to see you Phillip. Nice job.
Many years ago, Howard Stern asked Trump why he wasn't running for president, he said " The country was not divided enough." I watched about 20 minuits of the Apprentice when it first came on. When I saw contestants being fired and the audience accepting and expecting it, I suspected he was lowering viewers morality bar and attracting those who were already lacking in compassion. He was dividing the country and programming his base to ignore his cruelty, as he fired those who did not show their loyalty to him. Did foreign friends help him in this planned attack on our democracy?
The Trumpson Family is waiting for Donald to yell "HELTER SKELTER!"
Tax all Churches and Houses of Worship for not respecting Roe vs Wade and for not Separating between Church and State!
Behold the nation's "civility" in the comments on CZcams...
Yes, and Trump has helped make it worse. that's the point.
@@jockyoung4491 Agreed but social media and deteriorating standards were already a problem before Trumpf came along.
@@redalert2834
Trump certainly knows how to accelerate weed growth in a garden.
A friendly memory....
"Lakewood Church Closes Doors to hurricane Harvey Victims.
- Joel Osteen Criticized."
Some in various African countries have opened their eyes to evangelicals and their white Jesus.
The message was clear, prepare, we're attacking again. He knew exactly what He was doing when he said, there will be problems like we never seen it in the History of the country. How can that be ignored..
We can appeal to good honest spiritual values.
Knowing what the church does here in America, can you IMAGINE what abuse is going unpublished abroad?
Why do you think they WENT abroad?
We used to go to the same church in CO as Phillip. Great guy and speaker.
Trump needs the Presidential job now more than ever. The lawyers are asking to be paid up front and he needs many.
My understanding is that you don’t listen to trump for the same reason you don’t drink out of toilets…
Nice!
Indict, Convict and Imprison.
As a product of the Convention Baptist Church in Canada, I was always taught that we fight our battles with love and kind actions, not rifles and divisiveness. I'm saddened by the rhetoric that passes for Christianity. Is there a label for Christian in name only?
CINOs! If they're also white supremacists (they don't always self-identify this way), "Christian" nationalists. I wish real Christians would get together and take a stand against the self-righteous cultists. It's hard to tell, but the good ones outnumber the bad ones, by a lot! They're just less organised. As in, completely disorganised. The other side are very organised, and highly motivated voters.
Yes!!! Just like bad cops...if the good cops say nothing...they are complicit.
Take their tax break away.
"But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control." This is the essence of Christianity. There is no indication of these qualities in right-wing politicians or its media. All we witness is constant rage, hate, division, and now violent rhetoric.
No longer a Christian, but Yancey's book What's so Amazing about Grace? is a deeply honest, profound exploration of Christian values.
Lawrence the good old days are gone, everything now is about money even churches. Money is power my friends no more holiness even in religion.
It's called Antichrist. GOD gave man a right to choose, good or evil, right or wrong. Your choice. All will be judged by Him.
And that golden idol...
The Evangelicals want a Christian Nation. They worship a King.
I agree with Rev. These fake Christians need to be called out.
I wish other people who are “evangelicals” would listen to this. I’ve stopped attending “church” because people I used to trust are unrecognizable. Even pastors who taught what the Bible says have become cult followers of Trump and the Republicans. It makes me sick.
Hypocrisy is the sprit of self-destruction.
Vote blue in 22&24 or until the republican party is no more.
Trump's continued heartbeat damages our nation
He’s done more for the economy and mental care than Biden…
Twisted religious words by twisted people.
Democrats: let’s teach kids to hide from a shooter rather than fight for their life…
You're in in left field eating a bowl of stupid soup!
Yes he did mention it!
Language designed by Russia to end democracy, impose Autocracy [one man rule] and experience the nightmare tied to extremism.
Msnbc told me that too so naturally I believe it without question.
@@bobcob3362
How much of your Happy Meal allowance have you given to Trump? 😬
Really, why do I see the democrats making more laws and bans than the republicans?
Excellent points!
Seven years since the Trumpian horror show began and you're just now condemning the utter unacceptability of Trump and Trump-speak!! Will the rest of you pull your heads out of the sand. Please!!
The biggest mistake this country has made is passing the 17th Amendment. Before the 17th Amendment the senators had to go back the state legislature in their state and explain why they did what they did
Now all they need to do is to convince the voters that all that free stuff they want to give away will be paid for. Since most voters will be eligible for that free stuff that is not hard to do
Life is a little more complicated than that. Look at the concept of education, for example. It is used for the future to give the young skills to later learn professions that our society needs. Sometime adults go back to school to learn new skills to provide better things for thier families., etc.
My sister lives in Texas and has been a evangelical for decades.
I no longer relate to her reasoning for why they take favor on Trump.
He acts and talks like Satan is described in the Bible.
Amen
As did Joe, I too was raised in a southern Baptist home and church, taught the same stuff. Difference was that when I got older, I decided to delve deeper into the origins of the religion and the bible. Most don't do that, but many have and found out it is all just mythology. What some churches teach is cherry--picked verses that make the religion sound all cuddly and sweet, but the truth is that it is and has always been brutal and destructive and is based on the mythologies of an ancient middle eastern culture that was brutal, ignorant and superstitious.
As a Christian and a democrat, I really appreciate what Joe and Mr. Yancey are saying. We have sadly moved so far from civility that it's truly disgusting. I only hope that we can get there again one day. Our church regularly travels abroad to help the poor and disenfranchised in third world countries as well as having ongoing charities that do the same. We expect no praise, adulation or tribute for simply doing what's right. I wish that the modern right wing "evangelicals" could understand this concept. I don't understand their hatred for certain people and ongoing culture wars. Maybe they need to quit mouthing off and read their Bibles.
Thank you Joe for Phillip Yancey, after some in depth research I am reading his books. Where in the four Gospels does Jesus say "the end justifies the means"?
“ IT’S THE ECONOMY STUPID” James Carville.
MSNBC has become a better comedy vehicle than SNL.
I am trying to live by the rules and am not offended by others believing in a "myth" or a "God". But I am offended by believers trying to force others to live by the rules of the 'myths' aka "Gods" they believe in. Evangelicals have transcended every boundary...almost gaining an irrational higher ground than "burn em at the stake" Catholics.
Burn them at the stakes happened so long ago. How about their antisemitism and ties to fascism during the war. Still, the Catholic Church acknowledges evolution and the Big Bang theory and other progressive ideas. Many more than most religions. The evangelicals are a dangerous, psychotic bunch and are a threat to sanity and reason more than most right now in the US.
Still no excuses for any of the mythology pedlars.
I think you and many people, got over focused on the concept of God, and not enough on the principles that God represents, or stand for. God is Love. But most important thing is the love part. You can see it, feel it, and act upon it. Something tells me that you have a lot of love in your life, whether you acknowledge it or not. I attend church every Sunday, but if God would judge you and I competitively, I may be considered to be the more selfish between the two of us. Thus a 'God' would judge you to be better than me, in that regard. But also there are many other principles, such a forgiveness, mercifulness, compassion, charity, etc, to be considered as well. The well known story of "The Good Samaritan" illustrates this well. So I do not judge you negatively. And this is why i took the time to explain this.
If your a good person who does good deeds, then your welcomed in heaven. I would agree that a lot of the Christian people are a bit extreme when following the rules or believing in god, considering that I’m Mormon it shows how human beings are and I do agree with you.
Trump for prison!!! Lock him up!!!
Shannon Brandt
Rep. Telles
Darrell Brooks
No one needs to talk like the Dumpster to be in charge, the best leaders are empathetic and understanding, not toxic narcissists like Dumpy
Did this guy even see the Biden speech in PA?
Its Fry's brother.... If anyone gets that, congratulations.
The extreme ends of ideology are almost always bad.
Gospal means evangelical ,Greek for " good news of victory in battle"!
Yes we are supposed to hold our fellow Christians responsible for what they do what you will hear when you call somebody out is you'll hear they'll say don't be a hypocrite or that you're being judgmental but that is not true you can look it up in the book of Ezekiel chapter 3 verses 16 through 22 if we do not call out one of our fellow brothers for sinning then we too have the that blood of sin on our hands if we do call them out then we are not held responsible for their actions but yes we should be calling these people out it is our responsibility to claim yourself a Christian and to be a sinner in the public eye is wrong but I also believe that for any religion that's why I was upset when Muslims will not be will not call out other Muslims who are sinning who speak violence I think there isn't a faith in this world where you are not responsible for holding your fellow believers responsible I think it is required by all religions
Honestly, it scares me that you're talking so much religion. I don't believe in Jesus. I don't believe in any religion. Where do those like me belong in your worldview? So whether it is you talking Jesus or Lauren Boebert, I find it totally unacceptable.
I know right. They keep talking to "good Christians" but they won't talk to someone outside their religion. Can't they find someone non-religious?
Jesus does exist, whether you accept him as God the Son or not. So saying you don't believe in Jesus is like saying you don't believe in Caesar or Aristotle.
Do you know what’s worse than both? extremists… it’s in humans nature regardless of which religion.
They're talking about religion because a fringe sect of pseudo-Christianity, which preaches the opposite of what Jesus taught and what most Christians believe, is currently taking over America, and trying to establish a theocracy. It's not a coincidence that evangelicals are much more likely than other Christians to also believe in QAnon. It's a very dangerous cult, with a lot of political and financial power all over the world. It's a bit hard to combat this if we don't talk about the people who are doing it, and why.
Was Dr King really appealing to a higher power, or was he appealing to higher principles that we should honor and respect? He appealed to principles in the scriptures, but he also appealed to values in the Constitution. These don't need any help from a higher power. We are capable of honoring them if we choose.
Joe spoke more than Yancey.
And much more than his co-host ;-)
@@UTubeISphere yup
why they post morning show at night? Mika have to work at the B.K.?
Donald Trump is a coin inventor, he’s isn’t going to stop doing what he’s
Good morning Joe. Maybe you didn´t notice that there are new people born every year. After 20-25 years they are all over the place.
They learn different things.
interesting thought about Pelosi.
i rather thought that she was being sarcastic, but i can see it now.
Yancey is not the best person to comment on the current state of Christianity. But that's why he's on as a guest...to help build the left's narrative.
The evangelist’s should adress the parralells they have with Pharisees. Not all of them though. Just the ones that accept they’re hypocrites (none) 😹
Go woke go broke
Jimmy Carter is a Christian... Donald Trump is something else
Ya, a human being.
2006-2021
P harma blackmailed and mur deere millions and took billions for doing it
Religion ruins everything.
A good religion would necessarily be humanist. Tells you a lot when someone can pronounce others as lesser.
Oh, here's a mad Professor Goofy type if I ever saw one....
Evangelicals was pretty good people until they got on Trump racist team
Gods do even not exists
Mr. Scarborough -- has it occurred to you that perhaps - just maybe - your favorite Bronze Age collection of mythology is not a reliable guidebook to morality?
Chad McMullin
Nothing is better to follow than Love your neighbor as yourself. Jesus said that.
If only everyone did that.
The bible also says "Do not love the world or anything in the world. If anyone loves the world, love for the Father is not in them. "
@@JxRacer
The world is anything not in the kingdom of God.
Jesus Christ said that the christians will be in the world not of the world
"Jackie are you here? Where's Jackie?"
Rep. Jackie Walorski (R-IN) died in a car accident in August
🛎🔚
How are you with remembering whats happening in the lives of 525 individuals on a daily basis..
Trump can make Jackie reappear just by thinking it. 😜
@@b.t.2795 tRump can make his hair look amazing... just by thinking it is 🙃
Just a little off topic, eh?
Self centeredness!
Rev.: "Playing to the crowed." What a lame excuse. I am surprised at your ignorance.
why why why,is this man allowed to spew hateful filthy language day after day crude
Know hope for people who lie about the color of Jesus just another lying heart and soul people
Jesus was Jewish.
Hahaha Joe. It was about the beatitudes... And Armageddon, the rapture, the antichrist, and the violent destruction of the earth by the prince of... peace?
😂You’re all such Victims🤣
Trolls
Brandon just said hes basically a puerto rican and he asked Jill to make him some breakfast tacos
Is hate really all you have? You are just proving the point of this video.
@@jockyoung4491 Yes, it is!
You are a person who is full of hate.
@@jockyoung4491 hey jocko, I heard walmart has a sale on a sense of humor. You should pick one up.
@@bobcob3362 hate and ignorance are not humorous.
How about Brandon calling half the country fascists????
@Christian153: Maybe because it's true? Duh.
He didn't, as you well know.
We Atheists, Antinatalist Animal Rights Vegans (AARV), Reductionists, Alien believers, Greens, and other minority political parties (labor unionists, Anarchists, state Separatists, Communists, Socialists) have NO obligation to care about religionists, evangelicals, theists, or nationalists, monarchists, oligarchs or even to talk about them. We AARVs talk about OUR issues: fighting hypocrisy of governments allowing people to breed then DOING NOTHING FOR THEM.
Well Trump is clearly a fascist and lots of people voted for him. So it's a valid question.
Because they are!
Good Americans that love this country, and love their children, can no longer vote democrat.
why would you even say something that stupid? Are you TRYING to sound like a 12 year old brat? People simply disagree with you. Deal with it.
Martin you're not American. 🙄
@@b.t.2795 Good Americans that love this country, and love their children, can no longer vote democrat.
How come? Do you think we want to live under autocratic rule losing all personal freedom and privacy?
🤔🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 you're deranged fasho. 🤦🏾♀️🙄
Very apropos : why is a religious "reverend" Al Sharpton a political commentator ? They are discussing the damage of mixing religion and politics, and they ask a religious reverend for comment?!
"You don't vote for me you ain't black."
"I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man."
TRUMP 2024
TRUMP IN JAIL 20TOLIFE
It least we know THAT can never happen.
@@jockyoung4491 Agreed. Nobody will care about trump ever again, let alone vote for him.
@@theultimatereductionist7592
A lot of people will, but not enough.
Democrat spin and BS and Clown 🤡 show on full display 😢 FJB and the whole Democrat Party with 37 days desperation desperation desperation and more desperation nothing more and nothing less
BS and clown shows come only from FOX, FDT and the whole republican party with 37 days of desperation, desperation, desperation and more desperation, nothing more and nothing less.
Hope you enjoyed this lesson in reality Dave.
@Dave: Odd how desperate your little screed sounds (by the way, punctuation is free).
We Atheists, Antinatalist Animal Rights Vegans (AARV), Reductionists, Alien believers, Greens, and other minority political parties (labor unionists, Anarchists, state Separatists, Communists, Socialists) have NO obligation to care about religionists, evangelicals, theists, or nationalists, monarchists, oligarchs or even to talk about them. We AARVs talk about OUR issues: fighting hypocrisy of governments allowing people to breed then DOING NOTHING FOR THEM.
@@mikekelley2877 very good Mike you earned a dog 🐕 biscuit 👏 but FJB and the whole Democrat Party 😢 because when it comes to Democrats including yourself I don't take you seriously because you have no substance but you showed that desperation
@@davesonowski4057 quit lying.
Get your feelings hurt? I think closing churches for two+ years is a bit more important than Trump's language. Maybe the message is your problem.
Yall are going to be so upset in November 😆 🤣
11th Commandment:
Keep thy religion to thyself.
Faith/worship is a private matter.
The ONLY way to treat all beliefs fairly, is to keep it out of legislation, courts and public service.
You have a right to worship as you please.
Enjoy your religion responsibly, and strive to be a worthy ambassador of it.
Real Christians.... Y'know, the ones anonymously charitable, caring for their fellow man, embracing humanity in all its diversity, displaying compassion, reaping the benefits of their communities and congregations.....like Jesus would've? They should be more vocal in denouncement of Hateful zealous rhetoric at the pulpit, in the name of Christianity, AND its presence at the podium.