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Why does it seem thrustmaster is making stuff cheaper but then the price is more than other companies
It will bite them in the ass eventually. They certainly won't regain market share like this
@@StickyPlasters If anything it just seems like options. TM honestly does what the others have barely done... and that catering to the gamer first type market.
@@gregwilhide9685 ever heard of Fanatec? Lol TM just copies them buy in worse quality but about same price..
@gregwilhide9685 yeah, gamer first won't be paying those prices though
@@StickyPlasters TM just copies Fanatec and doing the same things but for about the same price and way worse quality. Amazing they still are in buisness.
Even worse OC keeps deleting my comments, i guess the truth hurts or something🤷♂️ very sad we cant even have a discussion and mention our opinions lol.
That’s an atrocious level of flex.
That amount of movement is ridiculous. Even if this wheel / box was £150, it would still be a no with that amount of flex. Dang.
even a little bit of fley is bothering me, i magine this wheel. thrustmaster outdid themselfs.
That's actually insane, I have less flex on my t-300 that I've been using hard for 2 years now. What were they thinking?
@@FerencKranicz This is big picture problem with Thrust Master. Making a 10Nm direct drive base with a plastic quick release is a very bad idea. It needs a metal system on the base and the steering wheel.. Spend some money to improve reliability and longevity.
@fredsas12 You have a point that 10Nm on plastic seems a bit optimistic.
But the flex shown in the video isn't the usual direction of the forces, so it's not as bad as it looks.
But at least the new release system is quicker than the old one.
THAT FLEX!!!............. BRUH 😮
Right, I‘ve never seen such massive Flex before!
Apl wheels flex like that
I own a T818, also the SF1000 and 488 GT3 wheel. I also know some others who own that base and are very satisfied with it. The flex shown here I only have ever seen on CZcams reviews. What I have experienced is different. There is some flex. But by far not as much as this video is suggesting. like the new wheel and will definitely buy it. Thanks for the professional style of this review.
The flex is crazy on this rim!
I bought a T818 one month ago. I bought it on Amazon with a 30% discount and I wasn’t sure of the buy because virtually every CZcamsr said that there was some flex from the QR.
I don’t know if you all got some pre production units but even by applying all the pressure sideways I could on the wheel I wouldn’t see as much flex as in the videos. But very little flex. This is weird. Other than that the wheel base feels excellent on rFactor 2 and Assetto corsa. But I agree that it can be expensive for what it offers.
If it hadn’t been on sale that much the choice would have been way more difficult. But I’m globally very happy with the product as it offers great detail. Still I bought it a month ago and don’t know how it’s gonna go in the future. But I’m not sure moza is the reliable choice either.
Flex is way over exaggerated, I litterally couldn’t find any flex on my t818, not to mention there’s to reason to flex it in that direction
Same here, there's no flex, with the 488 gt3 wheel it feels as sturdy as my friends moza r5.
because people forget that cameras tend to exaggerate movements. its why viewers tend to notice things that streamers dont, and vice versa
yeah my also has 0 flex- when I push it sideways it feels like its gonna break off before it flex.
Well you know boys will be boys
Thrustmaster is in the past, Moza and Simagic are leading the sim racing market
If Simagic an even cheaper dd wheelbase it’s over their ecosystem is so good and upgradable
Im a fanatec person but i def agree
Simagic all the way! Sold all my fanatec crap6
@@MIMCKMedia why tho? fanatec is a great product imo
@@Brotherinchristleo products are okay but customer support is horrible. I waited over four month for my formula v2.5 x wheel and they never responded to any of my emails.
I switched to simagic alpha base gt neo wheel and vrs pedals
Its crazy how my wheel doesn't flex like this. I also dont feel any less detail on my T818. Day 1, for the new wheel
The numbers on the button can be useful when you've bound something in game and the game tells you to press "Button 10" and you're like which one was that again? Well boom, this wheel has it labeled!
Yeah the buttons labeled by number is perfectly fine. The stickers also being numbers makes no sense haha
I'm sure there is a bingo while sim racing game out there somewhere 😂😂
A fair and objective review. Straightforward presentation without a lot of fluff (although I'm not a fan of the background music here, but that's just my opinion).
I suggest you do a series of wheel-only (not wheelbases) reviews, across the competition. Build up a scoring system with categories and present your findings in a table, so viewers can easily compare them.
Overall, good job & earned a sub. Cheers!
The quality of this video is amazing , great video dude , very nice review ! .
Just an observation, but the button box seems to be prepared for a later double clutch paddle add-on, judging by the covers placed on the backside below the shifters..
I feel like having numbers on buttons is good move many racing games shows those button input as those numbers I think it will make button binding bit easier
That is true but when you're done binding everything you want to replace the numbers with functions so the stickers are a complete miss.
CZcams stopped recommending me this guy...😭Why...!
Cuz ur not subbed
@@Jedisarchive I am subbed I subbed like 2 years ago that maybe the reason...
CZcams hates me I’m 100% convinced
Because you didn't watch him "intentionally". CZcams will only recommend you a video that you frequently watch, but if you "intentionally" go to someone's channel and watch them, like 5 videos in a row, then CZcams will always recommend you a video from that channel and you're definitely going to watch those videos, and then CZcams will recommend a video from that same channel AGAIN. In other words, CZcams Algorithm is confusing.
@@OCRacing 😭🤣
I am currently using a T300RS (TM ecosystem) with a Sparco P310 wheel. The P310 (and the stock GT wheel) both don't even have numbers. At least when I map a button and the setting says it #_, at least I know what number the buttons are without mashing them like I am playing Mortal Combat.
But as much as I am a massive TM fan (3rd TM wheel/pedal set out of 4 I have owned), I think my next rig (when time, more space, and budget allows) will be a Moza, Simucube, or other system. But that dream also includes a full motion system and large triple monitors (compared to my current triple 24s).
Your vids are so good. Keep it up
great video, but anyway what pedals would you recommend between thrustmaster tlcm , Fanatec csl (not elite load cell) and moza srp.???
5:56 rebinding and rembering which is does what them would actually be easy. Rather then press every button till you find the right one which all other controller I know suffer from.
What bolt circle diameter does this steering wheel have? You mention it can be removed but that doesn't help much if it's not the common 70mm or 50mm.
My man is posting this late at night. Keep up the good work!
Great looking wheel. Not really a big deal about not having back light buttons but three draw backs that must be addressed to make it worth the price point are the flex, the button labels and the noisy shifters. If Thrustmaster don't address those issues they are not only tone deaf they are completely deaf. They should be very simple fixes to address on an engineering level. Fix those issues and it looks like a rim that would be very difficult to fault. Don't fix them and you have a brand new product that is being rolled out already flawed.
@seallz the button labels are the smallest problem because someone will inevitably make an aftermarket set even if TM don't change the stickers that come with it. The flex is pretty serious and will only get worse with a lot of hours using the wheel. As for the shifters the plastic is not so great but the biggest problem is the noise. TM have never made any attempt to make any of their shifters quieter. I actually modded my previous TM shifters with foam and rubber to quiet them down which worked well but we shouldn't have to tamper with these things to make them right. Noise travels and anyone in the house while someone is engaged in some intensive racing will get driven mad by the constant clattering of these shifters. Let alone late night and early hours sessions. They need to address it or I'm going to have to keep modding them which I would rather not do. Especially at those prices. TM are so close, too close to let these issues slide. Easy fixes for a big win.
Selling all my TM stuff (TS-PC with aftermarket quick release, open wheel addon, Sparco P310) and moving to Simagic ecosystem was the best decision I could've made. It's a completely different universe.
I'll probably wait until they roll out the button box separately or they roll out a D-shaped rim. But I imagine they'll incentivize you to not just buy the button box alone. I bought the Ferrari GT3 rim a few months ago. I appreciate that TM at least gives you the option with these new wheels to either stick with the old release system or utilize the QR they have on the T818 now.
Yeah it would be nice if they sold the button box separately and add an industry standard quick release option for the rear unit. Then you could use this on any set up and use the standard wheel bolt pattern (at least it looks like it is) to mount any old real sports steering wheel.
If you then add the Moza stalks add-on that's coming up, you'll have all the options on or behind the wheel and may not even need an external button box. Could be amazing for VR as well, being able to do everything by touch.
you can already buy dozens of replacement rims for this. just look for t300gt rs rims. its the same bolt pattern.
i think that the buttons have numbers on them because when you are loading in to a game like dirt rally 2.0 then the game says wich button to press and it shows the button number but i dont have my buttons marked with numbers so i dont know wich one to press.
300 dollars and a disgusting amount of flex?!
I do appreciate the numbers ngl. In all the games I have played with my wheel all the buttons appear as numbers when you are setting up controls and getting used to the new button placements having the numbers seems pretty good to me lol.
Would be great to have optional symbols because assigning them in PC games is often "push the button you want to use for this function".
@@jochenkraus7016 oh I agree they should have stickers for the different functions but having them come as numbers as standard is not a bad idea!
I need help: I'm trying to get into sim racing on a budget (which is under AU$220) and I can't find a way to get into it. I'm looking for a Logitech/Thrustmaster wheel with at least 900 degrees of rotation and 3 pedals. Can you give me some advice (btw I've checked the links in the desc.)?
That looks sick! Great video
it looks like a copy of the rs v2 moza wheel
A plastic QR is some kind of joke.
I've been stuck trying to decide if I should upgrade from TSXW base to T818 because I have the sparco rim and Formula 1 rim from TM, but this new rim should have been a solid direct drive rim and that flex is ridiculous. Not sure what to do now.
A lot of previews of the T818 had problems with flex, but the production models don't. I've been using the T818 for F1 and the base is great
I jumped from tgt 2 to t818 and I can recommend to you. I also have few rims from tm, included latest ferrari gt3. Dont belive those youtubers showing a “flex”on tm wheels. This is absolutely not true and most of them are fanatics of fanatec. You must be an idiot to have rim movement as showed in this video or having an early development product to review. Idk.
Do you recommend a moza r5 for 719$ (because moza doesn't ship to where i live) or cammus 15nm wheel bundle that has lc pedals
hey oc i am planning to buy a fanatec set but i don’t know what cockpit and seat i should take can you help me? i don’t want anything too pricy tho thanks!
Are you going to do a review on the new fanatec csl cockpit when it drops?
It has a moza cs wheel vide/look to it
More flex that any of my last gen wheels 🤔
i use a PXN wheel that doesn't flex anywhere close that that, now i wanna see the thing taken apart
I thought this was a miss wheel for a sec. Because of the interchangeable rims
Will this combo work on both an Xbox Series X console and PS5 ?
Did you try this with PS5? Will the knobs and lights function in GT7?
for 300usd 488 gt3 wheel seems to be a much better choice
Sooooooo.... Getting the moza was the better decision. Thanks for the confirmation cause oh my god that was an atrocious amount of movement in that wheel. Even if most aren't like that, the chance you could get something that cobbled together is concerning. Couple it with the price and I'm. Not really sure what thrustmaster is doing.....
Honestly as long as Thrustmaster doesn't improve their qr system it's a big no no for me. I sold my t818 after one month because it felt like my SF1000 rim was going to crumble in my hands
Hey there OC! I was just wondering what you use for your sim equipment, would you mind leaving me a list?
I got just the thing for you: www.ocsimracing.com/ocracing-setup
Thanks much! I plan to use everything on the list except for the racing wheels/pedals, as I plan to run MOZA instead of thrustmaster.
OC racing you are my fav sim racer!!!
Thank you!!!
@@OCRacing could you giveaway a low end pen wheel?
Hi oc racing, do u mind if i take inspiration of your videos to make my sim racing channel?
1:29 That's a hybrid between a contr0ol stick, thumb stick and circl pad.... Very odd yet should be genus! Also not a D-pad as it sticks out D-pads are made to not do that.
Oc racing could you check out the Hori Force Feedback Racing Wheel Deluxe
O hell no that flex is real bad
.....at this point TM should forget about their previous belt wheels. The flex is clearly from their inferior QR system...that...is clearly chosen so their current new products caters to their belt driven wheels still. While I understand this is good from a business standpoint, but damn that makes ALL the other competitors look much more superior in quality. They really need so sort out their T818's pricing, PS Compatibility while Fanantec is facing troubles. Time is now or never.
Afaik the F1 wheel with the display has an adapter but here you can mount the release system you need. So there's no compatibility necessary here.
But the bew system looks thinner and longer than the old one so not the best for maximum stiffness.
Yowzers thats some flex
I will never understand how companies freely can call something leather that is in fact some kind of plastic.
idk if it’s just me but that lowkey looks just like the moza cs wheel no?
Nah, I'm good with my Thrustmaster Sparco R383 Mod Rally wheel.
If I need more buttons/encoders, there's the stock T-GT II wheel and Ferrari SF1000 wheel ready to swap out when necessary.
I'm more inclined to buy either a Ferrari 250 GTO or 488 GT3 wheel than this.
you should do the pxn v12
This kinda quality video again and only 93k subs. WHY!!!???
If I remember correctly he was at 89k a few weeks ago when I found this channel so there seems to be a growth.
And I think that sim racing had a boost during Covid so it might have declined when that became less of a topic over time.
$300!? 😂😂😂 wtf are thrustmaster doing
do you recommend csl dd or the moza r5
personaly i would buy the csl dd ready2race bundle, its 400 dollar and it includes pedals, a wheelbase and a wheelrim
okay, but at the time i have only a table to play with @@felixdamen4568
@@felixdamen4568it could be good but i dont know how big are the shipping costs because i live in finland
Looks like a Fanatec
W uploads recently
lol that flex isnt a flex thats a straight up loose kaboose
Please make a remake the cammus ddwb 15nm review please
Thanks for the review! Man, all that waiting and they came up with a poor CS V2 knock-off? And that level of flex....Jeez. Who is running their RD? Like seriously, lol.
you sound like tech by matt
I'm really not sure how you had that much flex - unless this was a faulty unit. I've got a T818 and compared to a Moza R9 there's no difference. There IS a big difference in the faff of tightening the collar on the T818 and It's definitely not as simple - BUT once on it simply does not flex like your wheel in the video. If the new hub really is like that then no chance will I order it.
Why you drive with bicycle gloves? 😅
Hey man, could you make a video if the t150 is worth in 2024 if you still have the wheel
That's what I use. I guess it depends on what you think is worth it I play iration mostly and I play a set of Corsa and automobilista just for the t150
im just starting out so I might play assetto for some fun with the wheel
Thrustmaster just can't seem to help making weird decisions on their products right now. The buttons having numbers are fine, but the stickers also being numbers make no sense lol. Plus they have a button labeled "Drink". I get it on a licensed replica, but on a TM branded unlicensed wheel? That flex is also completely unacceptable at $300
The cheap construction and the fact it's been quite abut since the TM DD released, I should of came with the DD if anything
G29's are now $400 where i live bro like wtf
Wtf is the place of the usb-c port?!?
Also place for dual clutch but then they use huge pedals that won't be compatible with the dual clutches...
Most likely DOA, but i would open the wheel/button box and investigate more
If TM wants to lead the market they need to be current or forward thinking. Release a Ferrari 296 wheel 1:1 with nice illuminated buttons and thumb wheels. Or a 499p wheel with the same. Also, have comparability with all current game releases for console and PC (SF1000 compatibility sucks). To me they are in the 2000’s. If Mona and others can make quality affordable wheels, so can TM.
Ts300rs is pretty good. I watched tons of reviews of all racing sims in that price bracket and universally the ts300rs was considered the best. Seems it’s there only good product lol
I'd like to add T300 with Ferrari 599 Alcantara wheel.
Horrible flex, but I like the button-numbers. You might not know, but there are quite some titles like ACC, BeamNG and WRC that displaying the button-numbers after you've mapped the wheel and who can remember them or ever know all the button-numbers?
No joke I thought thrustmaster went out of business (I literally have one)
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Hey i ordered from sim racing pros off your affiliate code and haven't received any response from the company in the week since ordering but all my items are in stock at time of ordering
I've been trying to contact them but their phone number looks to be incorrect and they aren't responding on social media or on email
Thrustmaster is sooo on crack😂
Looks good ill get one, carbon fiber for sim racing isn't going to make anyone faster who cares that it has flex in the direction your pushing and pulling the rim . Are you seriously looking at the button numbers/names whilst racing? I use vr and i dont push the wrong buttons. Thanks for the review you do make good videos.
Why is TM so expensive nowadays?
not forgetting the promised face reveal at 100k subs
Thrustmaster has copyed the RS V2 Steering Wheel frome Moza Racing 😆
My take: thurstmaster is not taking the market shares with this one. maybe if they made a proper upgrade from the T300 (like idk maybe name it a T500?) they probably would.
as of now, especially this wheel, they are not going to get far
They should merge with fanatec, since they’re both going for the mainstream, call it fanamaster, or thrustatech. Fanatec obviously needs help in certain areas and thrustmaster takes way too long to get products out the door ( still nothing on a console dd) all seriousness I think they would make a good team
Fanmaster. Thrusttec. Thrustfan.
Thrustfan
🥳
Cammus for the win , again.
Thrustamster did ok on this wheel but they need to realize that poly didn't design things well and it's like they stuck with how sony helped them design things but need to realize it's time to go more modern. More quality for the prices they are charging. But then again thrustamster stuff somehow lasts forever. So who tf knows I guess if it aint broke don't fix it? Lol
anotha one🫡
Disappointed that this is not a new lower-midrange wheelbase from TM
Yup, definitely very unfortunate
You're right. A cheaper direct drive base would be nice. I recently bought a (refurbished) T300 and was surprised how old some of the review videos are.
it looks like a copy of the rs v2 moza wheel
Plastic hub will always flex
Wow they included both the old quick release and new quick release? I guess we can't expect the same from Fanatec, one of the tiniest indy company for sim racing with no market share in the sim racing world right ?
With Fanatec you can choose which one you get. Why include both to only use one and never touch the other one , lol?
@@MegaIronica Not initially, when QR2 was just released, you were only able to pick QR1 Lite back then, QR2 lite requires additional purchase.
Having both means one day you can upgrade your drive base or upgrade your QR system and still don't need to pay extra. lol ?
@jas218 I feel like people just like to trash on Fanatec for no reason. You think Thrudtmaster are giving things for free? Be assured they would include it in the price. Maybe that's why it is $300, lol. I would definitely pay less and get only what I need 🤣
@@MegaIronica What's your point, at the moment, if you have QR2 base side, when you buy a wheel from Fanatec. They forced you to take QR1. If you want QR2 you need to pay extra. Isn't it the same that Fanatec isn't giving you the QR1 for free, it is included in the price already? Except if you want something that make it compatible with your wheelbase, you need to pay extra now or wait till you need it but need to pay an extra premium on shipping which is 40 USD for Canada.
@@MegaIronica Fanatec used to be loved by everyone. It was my dream gear growing up as a kid. Now it is a curse, and I wish i can sell them off without much loss to move on to other brands.
There is a reason why people start to hate Fanatec now.
I am someone that bought QR2 and never received it. It took Fanatec 4 months to get back to me to ask me if I want a refund, and then another 3 months to read my email and to refund me.
Yes I hate Fanatec. Hating on fanatec for no reason? I disagree
the CS v2 does not have backlit buttons. you are referring to the CS v2p not regular v2. this statement is misleading.
Either way the CSV2P is cheaper than this
Sadly their QR is really bad, software is from windows xp and way to expensive for the quality they offer. You are better off with almost any other brand, and for cheaper. But this new Wheel does look good, ngl.
Their QR isn't quick :-P
@@jochenkraus7016 U are right, sorry for that. SR then :)
@@themadnes5413 Q probably stands for quirky here, lol.
DOA product, absolutely no reason to buy this over anything else on the market
The flex is insane, I 3D printed myself a GT3 wheelrim with an adapter for my Logitech G27 and it was sturdier than that.
Holy cow that’s so much flex!!! Once again TM making products that look good but are poorly made with cheap materials!
Omg rim itself flex alot!!... i have thrustie. Stayed patiently for dd console base... why morons why so long.....
They are done... far to many others including bloosy headphone company jumping ahead of them.. this is slap,dash and shocking!!
Thrustmaster AKA plasticmaster. Ive owned couple of TM's products but haven't been impressed at all. Pedals i got had horrible plasticy creacking. Wheelbase had some weird notchiness. Just not up to the standard in the price range. They feel like toys after using Moza's products for an example.
Did you really say the LED lights were "quick"???
I think you’d be surprised by how many of these wheels have delayed LED response times