Cause u don't make money by that. U make money exploiting others name. Look at Chris. He made money by being slapped by Will... It's all about drama. Like personal promotion and Biebers r shameless
It’s so weird how people care this much especially when all parties have said to stop they’re all grown adults they don’t need the internet to babysit them.
You obviously care about all the drama that has been going on as well or else you wouldn't be clicking on these video's about the whole Selena and Hailey Bieber drama imao
@@BeautyQueen2023X They're commenting on social behaviour though, which.. is fascinating. As a case study, this mass hysteria is scary to observe and I think it behooves us to understand how this happens.
It is absolutely wild to watch. I feel awful for those on the negative end of the messages. I hope they have a good support system. It's incredible that the idol of those attacking fan groups don't take ownership of their power and just make this mess stop.
@Simplylol all this drama over some speculation too. I mean Selena literally was showing her middle finger in one of her “skincare videos” clearly mocking/bullying Hailey in May 2022 after H’s skincare video & still S is always the victim? Like c’mon people 😅
@@JadeOvO I dont comprehend how people have just gone on ignoring this. She posted this lotion middle finger video AFTER Hailey posted her lotion video. Where's the same energy?!
@@Momofukudoodoowindu Exactly. & it wasn’t even a speculation like right now with this eyebrow drama. She was directly shading Hailey. Selena just has a great PR team who make her look like a victim in every situation. It’s a talent 🤌💀
I literally can’t escape this drama. It’s everywhere. I personally think it’s best for Hailey and Justin to don’t talk about it because people will continue to hate even more. I mean look at Selena … she gets hate when she doesn’t address anything and she also gets hate when she does especially on Twitter. People will never be satisfied.
it’s also annoying that every commentator is making videos about it, many of them are obviously attacking hailey and it’s just so weird. move on. this is the stalest weirdest drama …
It doesn’t matter how many times Selena addresses this, people are obsessed with drama. A lot of people clearly have nothing going on in their own lives so they create drama out of nothing. There’s a lot of toxic fandom on both sides of the fence. I’ve never seen so much come out of absolutely nothing.
I'm glad you called out Hailey's side to. This is getting out of of hand. I'm saying this & I have a war zone relationship shiv an estranged bro sister in law, who I even have a PI investigate for criminal records.
Yes they always try to act like it's the Selenators when Hailey Baldwin's fans also hate they make fun of her lupus and weight. Both sides of Fandom including Jelena needs to stop the hate train.
Drama channels like these certainly amplify and continue the drama instead of letting it die down. No shade bc I like watching these videos but they definitely don’t help lol
Selena instigated so much of the drama though. She publicly responded to Kylie saying there's no beef then supporting posts calling Hailey a btch and Kylie a mean girl. I love Selena and I've been a fan since Barney but y'all need to realize this isn't as one sided as you'd like. And y'all don't care about Selena until Justin's name is mentioned. Where's all this support for her music and documentary that flopped? Y'all aren't real fans your just nostalgic over Selena and Justin's 8 year old relationship and can't accept reality.
@@kermetthehog1237 this! people keep ignoring this part cause they just wanna bully and they love selena it doesnt even make sense its just crazy how people idolize over a stranger
Naw real, i went to my anxiety group session and a girl started discussing that. I'm like my life has a bigger problem than celeb's high school drama and fans epic immaturity.
LOL I went to physio last week and my physiotherapist asked if I followed celeb drama and we talked about all this 😂 kinda getting out of hand at this point
Right?! What a world we live in... where assumed gossip about celebrities is deemed more important than actual real life issues. The internet literally f*$ked humanity.
What do the fans want? Do they want HB to feel so cornered she resorts to self harm? This is severe severe severe bullying. If you follow and love someone for their kindness and generosity then why not emulate it?
i don’t agree with all the bullying but i really don’t feel bad for hailey anymore because she’s leaving her comments and socials open, and doing absolutely nothing about it. and she’s continuing to shoot for her makeup brands so clearly it doesn’t affect her that much.
@@angel-fk6rn she probably has obligations to do certain things. She’s an adult and has to work despite drama. Also, if she turned off comments, people would probably say she’s hiding and being weak.
@@angel-fk6rn I feel like your comment is “very soulless.” This is actually insane that people can’t even see her as a human being with feelings and a soul. Like what the actual… 🤯🤢
I honestly never had a good impression of Hailey, maybe it’s because I have been a huge fan of Selena for years but it’s very irritating and quite infuriating when other selenators cherrypick and overanalyse every single post/video/photos/comments/interviews about Hailey and Selena, literally trying to create something out of absolutely nothing.
I don’t care about any of these people, but it is insane. The one that really messes with me is the people saying, “this is why your dog died,” to that one girl. People really need to grow up. There are far more important things going on with celebrities anyway. Manson being falsely accused by Wood and all those other women. Honestly, just focus on your own lives.
Your so right like am a Selena fan but all this is jus unnecessary. Like they are over doing it for me now like leave the ppl let them live their life . Yes Justin and Selena did once love each other but sometimes the people we love won’t always be right or what we need . And they were so young when they dated and had so much going I honestly don’t blame two in them for wanting to move on like people need to move on as well cuz this is going on for years now and they can’t see the man not gonna divorce his wife like plz .
I like Selena, am indifferent towards Hailey cause idk what she does lol, this whole thing is INSANE to me. People are crazy with pitchforks over nothing.
Selentors have a new theory, they think Hailey used magic because everyone would like to be with Selena so it must have been witchcraft that he is with Hailey
I am not a Hailey fan or anything, but people forget that she is a human and that hate has a real impact on anybody who has experienced it. I genuinely hope that this nonsense drama stops soon (for both Selena's and Hailey's sake), I can't imagine how she is feeling and I really hope that this doesn't cause anything bad to her :(
Even in birthday moment still sending the sentence bla bla bla through the gift..it silly they cant enjoy the moment but still adressing something else
She should of thought about before being an accomplice to Kyle 🤷♀️ Hailey should know "reap what you sow" its taught in church, but she probably has to many demons in her that she gets distracted at church
Agree, can't agree more. Also, there are actual things to criticize Hailey for, like the situation to with her skincare brand. Same thing goes to Selena (as much as I love her, she is wrong for this) for facing her back towards her former friend Francia... the girl who literally saved her life.
@@Dudettesluv Her obsession with Selena is just speculation. If you simply dislike her, that's fine in a way I dislike Hailey as well. But this "she is obsessed with Selena" is ridiculous. The only detail that comes off as truthful in my opinion is the tattoo.
It's weird to me how Selena has said over and over to be kind and that she's very much anti bullying, yet her fans have been dragging Hailey and anyone else involved with her. Call Hailey out if she's being mean but don't turn around and bully her or others. This whole drama has been blown out of proportion and people are taking every little thing to twist it into something it's probably not. Fans will never know what happened between Selena, Justin, and Hailey and they don't need to! It's no one's business but those involved. Also if Justin and Hailey aren't happy, it's between them. Everyone just needs to calm down, touch grass, and find something else to do with their time. Edit: I'm not on either "side" by the way. Selena should not have added fuel to the fire by liking or commenting anything that might seem like a greenlight. I just find it ironic that she talks about anti bullying but some of her fans jump on the chance to bully, that's it lol.
selena definitely greenlit her fans by commenting on videos that were dragging kylie/hailey and supporting her lmaoo are we really gonna act like she didn’t do that? okay.
Dude it's not just her fans it's literally Justin fans and jelena fans. What? U think because I'm a Selenator I bully Hailey? She deserves the hate but I don't participate in it stop reaching
@@cookielyon3937 Did I say it was a l l Selena fans? Did I say it was only Selena fans? No I didn't. I was specifically talking about the people who claim to be such big fans but turn around and bully in her name despite knowing she wouldn't like it. In the future if someone makes a comment on something, don't just assume they're generalizing. Or in your own words... stop reaching.
I agree, I'm all for exposing her as any bully shld be. Calling someone out clearly is what should be done while keeping mental health in mind. Charity events are good ways to expose ppl doing wrong if that needs to be done, speaking from b experience
At the same time this has been going on for a good while . It's best to just sit back and watch. Those haters probably have had enough with years of this b.s .
Selenators have been stalking Hailey since the wedding and will continue to stalk her, Justin has been stalked since 2014, Selenators want them to divorce
Yikes not a fan of either of them but the hate towards hailey is pure disgusting and nasty and to think about this all mess started on a mere assumption is wild asf.
For real. I’m not a fan of Hailey but these people acting acting like they’re so against bullying and mean girls yet…they’re bullying and being mean girls instead of not stooping to that level. Make it make sense
@@lorena.e agree... its also dishonest for people to claim that just the act of selena speaking out means shes the nice girl. So you mean to tell me that actions don't speak louder than words? Lol
@@Momofukudoodoowindu right? because didn’t selena comment on multiple videos that were blatantly calling hailey and kylie out and supporting her? she’s. a gaslighter for sure.
@@dreamkitty Like selena really thinks that low of her own fans. And I even like her music. She thinks I am so stupid, as someone whose almost her age, that I would just ignore the fact she has liked a bunch of tiktoks and IG posts hating on Hailey and Kylie. Its delusional.
Not the male makeup artist trying to stir shit up and make it worse. If he was in Haley’s side he would support her in private instead of adding more feul to the fire. Sure Haley may be a mean girl but the reaction to this whole drama has been taken way too far. I can’t imagine what it’s like to live in Hayley’s circle rn. I love Selena so listen to her when she says to be kinder.
Right? That stylist/MUA or whatever he is needs to stfu. Clearly he wants attention, but that it an AWFUL way to go about it as a professional. A lot of people are going to see that and decide not to work with him regardless of whatever side they sit on. Believe it or not, people don't like to work with problematic, clout hungry 'professionals'. Even if he did think it critical he take Hailey's side in the drama, there's much more diplomatic ways to address it without throwing hate directly at Selena like that.
I’m not a Selena hater, BUT I find it odd that people are calling Hailey a mean girl (which may be true idk) and then ignoring the times when selena has made rude comments towards girls Justin was involved with. We don’t know what happened behind the scenes and some of the “evidence” of Hailey being obsessed/a mean girl is a reach.
All of it are reaches… it’s the lunatic fans who think everything circles back to Selena. There is far more evidence of Selena being ‘shady’ online as opposed to Hailey but her fans ignore it or say “Yes, Queen Selena” lol!
Selena literally gets hate on TikTok also. They both get hate and some of them make racist jokes about her and they make fun of her weight and lupus. Honestly they both get hate it's ridiculous.
People just need to relax. If he posted photos with them smiling people would say he doing too much, he post regular photo to show he doesn’t care about the drama now he ain’t doing enough. Everyone feels like they just so entitled for answers.
I’m not team Selena or team Hailey. I’m team women supporting women. This mess is so disgusting. Everyone needs to be left alone, it’s their lives, not ours so just mind your own business
Women supporting women doesn’t really work all the time in personal lives. Women are allowed to dislike other women, and it doesn’t make them bad people
I don't understand the " women supporting women thing". I don't have to feel pressured to support a bully just because she's a woman. Let's face it. Bullying between women is very common. I've been mocked in middle school and high school for my clothes and appearance by girls. I'm female. They were the worst. I'd rather support people with whom I share similar principles than gender. Hailey is a hypochrite. Coming in and talking about mental health while being a bully and a stalker. It's good that she got called out. She should apologise and move on but she's holding on to her pride. These generations of young people need positive influencers to change this crappy little world.
@@pas_du_tout how is she being a bully though? You’re literally reaching. Stop projecting your childhood trauma onto what others are doing. She said she doesn’t like Taylor Swift, that’s probably the worst thing she’s done and she’s allowed to like or dislike certain artists. Touch some grass
i can’t believe this same drama has been going on for YEARS now like it’s absolutely ridiculous how these grown adults are still acting like they’re in high school! it’s embarrassing all around.
@@BeautyQueen2023X what’s with the bitchy tone? lol you act like i sat through the whole thing twiddling my thumbs when i didn’t even sit through a minute of it PLEASE it’s not ever that serious 😂
@mariah don't mind this kenya girl, I've seen her comment on literally every single comment on this video so far arguing with people and defending the selena fans 🙄 literally proving the point of toxicity
I like reading the comment section to these drama videos and watch how easily ya’ll opinions shift one day to the next depending on what the larger group is doing.
This!!! The comments this week have definitely switched. Everyone was ganging up on that girl to now be like “Ooo y’all are taking this too far.” Like who is Y’ALL? Don’t you mean YOU. Half of these people were making jokes and picking sides all week.
I am worried for everyone and their mental health .... Selena too actually. This has to be a lot for her. When people raise you THAT high, it is a long way down and no one is a saint.
I respect you for being objective in looking at the while Justin photo/tattoo/gift stuff. It’s all drama at the end of the day, and while I’m definity under the belief that Selena has full right to defend herself (while still speaking out against harassment towards others), shitting on Hailey and making her question the love of her life is fucked up. We literally don’t know how their relationship works. This adds nothing to the whole “mean girl” convo
I do want to clarify that I don’t think Selena is the problem . Im stunned at how publicly shady Hailey is being towards Sel, even if its unintentional . Like girl you know what’s going on in the drama circle, think a little bit harder before you post something… it’s not that difficult
At this point, it’s not just Selena fans hating on Hailey. It’s just random people that can see how messed up the situation is. The memes are also kinda funny.
@@kath8440 RIGHT. Imagine being apart of the generation that watched all that happen in real time dude. Now it’s coming back up and we can’t ignore it. Times are different!
I am not siding with either because I don’t know the full details. But I find it a little bit weird that Selena keep saying “be kind” or stuff like that, and then commenting on posts that *allegedly* targeted her saying “I don’t let these things bother me” or something like that. She has massive devoted following, she must have known that it would get intense reaction and fuel the fire.
If she cared so much why did she dig up an old ass video of a skit Hailey did? She clearly was looking for anything to make Hailey look even worse 😂. Bringing in Taylor fans to attack Hailey as well. Selena’s actions don’t match with someone who’s “mature” and “kind” 😂. Also why did she comment saying she “likes kylie” then proceeded to comment on TikTok’s saying kylie was talking about her 💀. Like sis are you ok? How does she contradict herself so much? Selena gives me weirdo energy.
Do for you pages not exist anymore? It easily could’ve popped up on her feed. All of the stuff Hailey has done make her look bad regardless of whether Selena commented or not.
and the one calling her and hailey a bitch! Selena needs to give this part of her life up and just get better for real! Like im worried I know she isnt 100% evil but the shit I have seen this year especially francia has left me DUMBFOUNDED. I could never be able to cut francia off, drink and do drugs, and talk about her with disrespect in the public. and not even mention the person who saved her fucking life in her doc (and couldnt get on a list because of her long ass drug use history) you would think she would have it in her heart like if you are truly kind and genuine in your heart, and have empathy, you would not do any of what selena has done and said to her like im so upset for francia i cant imagine how she must be dealing with this burden knowing her kidney is with someone who did not deserve it sorry its true
@@an-qo6by yes that’s just her showing her true colors tbh, and she said Taylor was her only friend in the industry, Francia even commented and unfollowed her after that. She’s ungrateful, Francia risked her life and she’s just killing the kidney she gave her by drinking and doing drugs. She’s always drunk at red carpets 💀.
I don't think he cares about pleasing anyone by showing photos of him and hailey happy together, she probably does but he is more mature and self aware he knows he doesn't have to please or sode with anyone
@vidaverde hahahah what? You sound like a stalker you cant call someone a fucking stalker or bully based on their social media? And hailey is so sweet but you dont know that because all you have heard of her is that she is mean but i myself have met her irl and she is the sweetest so ffs SOCIAL MEDIA IS FAKE
I'm team Selena buuuuuut does anyone else find it weird that social media has been posting "f*** hailey" or "I hate hailey" and the posts dont get removed? But ones like "I hate selena" are getting removed? Kinda weird 🤔
Probably people mass reporting. A stylist who worked w Hailey Bieber and is friends w Justine Skye posted a story w ‘I hate Selena Gomez’ and it got removed fast
Selena’s PR team is no joke. It has literally made her drug/alcohol rehab stints, cheating scandals, kidney donor drama disappear & made her a victim narrative shine in everything
why can't Selena just say "stop hating on Hailey, the drama with Justin is over let's move on"? she always says stuff like "care about others mental health", "words matter", etc. however it would be way more effective to just say to stop hating Hailey. now i've got a feeling that she enjoys all this hate and just wanna seem a good person with morals. no way i'll believe that she cares about Hailey's mental health after all those comments, especially when she commented on some other person's post where Hailey gaged after Taylor Swift album mentioning. it literally happened 5 years ago (as far as i know) and it is not relevant. how can people support that childish behavior?
Hailey is the one that starts these hate things. And when Selena pushes back. People like you get upset as to why she is standing up for herself. Hailey is the one that needs the attention. SG is far bigger than Hailey in her own right.
@Trisha Bidesi The drama was dying down. Selena HAD to comment on old videos to stir things up. She doesn't have to say or do anything because you all do the dirty work for her. After Hailey gets dragged for a week, she always comes back out and says the littlest things to make her seem angelic.
Shut the hell up she was being bullied for many years why she would say that she is not gonna defend anyone did you get that ? As yeah is this Hailey from fake account you bitch
Justin could cover up that tattoo if he wanted to. It would be nothing to him in terms of cost or finding someone who will do it well. I have tattoos that represent important and meaningful parts of my life. He could have moved on yet, appreciates that time in his life. It may not mean he misses her in that way or wants her back.
There's literally a grown man and father on Tiktok saying he thinks Hailey should be "water-boarded." I love Selena but that's disgusting and it's gone way too far. What if Hailey hurts herself over this? Gross behavior from pathetic people.
Honestly the people saying Selena and Justin should’ve been endgame are the same people that would say Brooke and Lucas should’ve been end game (from One Tree Hill)
right i was thinking it meant he was glad he didn’t turn to a life of drug use/continued reckless behavior even if he may have wanted to at one point. it was his birthday, he made it another year, that’s always an accomplishment
Exactly… if you watch his old show Seasons, you can see where his mindset and intentions are. It’s more about having a more grounded lifestyle. People saying it was Hailey who chose the quote and gift, are wrong. It is a very Justin thing to say. IMO at least
After Selena kept on commenting on random tik toks and stirring up the pot now she’s telling people to stop…… I’m not team Hailey but Selena is clearly problematic as well, she just has better PR than Hailey
I dont hate hailey and i dont judge her but as i can see in her action she has bad behaviour that everyone will not going to like i feel sorry for her bcs she's Christian but she didn't act like a Christian
The comments in this video are so funny to me. Just a few videos ago, more than half of the comments on this channel were pure hatred towards Hailey, and the owner of this channel liked a few of them. Now the tides have turned and everyone is seeing how it's been such a sick game all along. This goes to show that Social media is one big echo chamber and whatever is in vogue for the moment reigns. I'm just glad people are coming to see how sick and twisted it's all been from the start. I was starting to think something drastically bad would have to happen to Hailey for the madness to be over. Glad it didn't get to that.
That's because we have social media like Tiktok co parenting kids with the state that days. Tiktok is also a pedo ring. Social media just replaced old school high-school mall or bathrooms, where everybody goes to do hs drama. We're seeing the effects of a digitized hs where ppl pop off & mean girl or stalk each other after hs
I definitely subscribe to the theory that back in 2018 Justin just wanted to get married, Selena wasn't ready, and Hailey was the first girl to say yes
Idk why people access to the internet give them full audacity to be so cruel but it’s wild how none of the fans on either side haven’t been arrested by the fbi yet for stalking those 3.
I dont know maybe it's just me I was team Selena but ever since she dissed the girl who donated her kidney to her, kinda made me change my mind about the kind of person she is. Celebrities only show you what they want you to see
you have to think about the type of person that doesn’t acknowledge someone that literally gave them a second chance at life. like she could’ve potentially passed if it weren’t for Francia .. imagine being in the shoes of a recipient whose been on that kidney donor list for years waiting on a phone call that your pain and troubles will be cut in half. yeah. no decent human would be drinking afterwards and calling their donor (that they personally know) “the person”
I felt that same way as you too when I first found out but I honestly don’t know what happened behind closed doors between Selena and that girl who donated her kidney and we will never know. I know It is a huge deal that someone saves your life with their very own organ. I mean Selena’s alive cause of her. But I feel like if that same person acts like well you better do this say this or that because I donated you my kidney continuously, I would step away from that and try to live my own life since I did survive death. Selena did mention her name several times and was thankful for her but no one really knows what happened between them. Selena might’ve been an ungrateful person or that girl could’ve just turned out toxic for Selena. I guess we won’t know.
search up "Selena Gomez Is So Messy" by honest. And yeah I agree- I was a HUGEEEE like obsessed type of fan of Selena's but when I saw what she did to Francia- my heart sunk. Her true character showed. That type of situation is mindblowing- francia legit saved selena's fucking LIFE! She was not able to get on the kidney list cause she does drugs (coke and heavier even not sure if she still does the heavy stuff but coke she does even now as we speak) So to be this way after EVERYTHING, to treat the person who saved you like that is disgusting. I will never look at her the same again lol its crazy
Francia and Selena are good girls. Before the operation, they are old friends. As a good old friend and donor, Francia tried hard to give a health advice to Selina. At that time Selena was a patient with kidney replacement (before & after treatment) and just closed to death. Her mental was not in a good condition (patient's emotional unstable). So it mabey had a miscommunication & misunderstanding between both side.
It's time to leave these people alone. I think the message has been driven into the ground. We don't like people bullying others at any age. But they are trying to move past this now. Give them grace and let them move past this in their own way. Hopefully, lessons have been learned, and history doesn't repeat itself.
i’ve never been a fan of hailey never been a hater either just haven’t ever paid enough attention to her to care. but this bullying thats going on rn is way too far and actually fucking insane. she’s a human being with real feelings and she’s probably struggling so much rn bc of this :(
I think if they just have a statement once and for all like all 3 of them, this will end forever…cause there’s so many gaps that people obsess over. Team Selena but the rolling loud thing was really mean
People are so ridiculous, they say how obsessed Justin and Hailey are with Selena. But their whole relationship fans have screamed Selena's name at them..🙄
@Countess Fenring yeah I bet before you advance in any relationship, you consider the people from your pasts feelings and expect others to bring up your ex constantly.
You know what this drama has done? Pushed me firmly on Hailey's side in this debacle. Not everything the girl does and posts has to be about someone especially your husband of 5 years ex. The amount of racist things Justine Skye is getting by selenators, the hate Kylie is getting for what? Posting her eyebrows which she does all the time and the vitrol towards Hailey and about her health is absolutely disgusting. These stans are deranged and need to get a life.
I said this when it all started: Selena should've never commented anything on any TikTok related to this. If she hadn't done it none of this would've happened. Its annoying how y'all try to make her the angel in every situation yet shes been famous for many years and still doesn't know how much power her actions have? Imma give it to her though, she knows how to play it so she doesn't look like the bad guy
Dude celebrities should be allowed to be messy especially when it’s just between each other. People keep saying ‘she’s not innocent either’/‘she’s not an angel either’/‘she’s playing victim’ as if she did something worth criticism. When what she says isn’t actually mean, but it’s ‘calculating and manipulative’ to just mention someone. The most she does to upset you people is not react perfectly or the way you want her to, but that doesn’t make her bad person. Like regular people would say way worse if they were in the same situation. It’d be better if celebrities could just be upfront about disliking someone, without being criticized.
Poor Hailey. I swear if she survives this marriage she can survive literally anything!! Girl can’t catch a break 🤦🏻♀️ it’s so sad. Idk why people feel like just bc they love Selena they can’t like Hailey too, those people really need to grow up & find something better to do with their time then hate on her on the internet
Let’s not collectively bully a young woman to death. Anyone who has been bullied by this brand of mean girl KNOWS Haileys behavior and it’s the WORST. but come on! She probably got this way by her lunatic-born again father and the patriarchal structure that allows this sort of jealousy/structuring her whole self esteem on a man. Justin probably gets off on it, ew but true
@@youtubecensorsthetruth4625 when did i say i know her? all i said is that you don’t .. none us do. you look really delusional going so hard for a strange. take. a deep breath, relax your shoulders. selena doesn’t know you. calm down.
@@dreamkitty I get that you like hailey bieber but from all your comments it seems you may have a bit of a parasocial relationship, I would work on that! its not very healthy
@@SpecialUnicorn798 thanks for stalking me but i’ve shown no support for hailey whatsoever in any of my comments 🤣 i don’t have to like hailey to dislike selena. i just don’t like selena cause she’s a gaslighter.it’s not healthy to stalk me across the youtube section and act like you know what i’m thinking and how i feel! that’s very mental! please seek help for your issues!
people give hailey a lot of hassle for being "obsessed" with selena gomez but if her husband is constantly dropping hints like showing off his tattoo of his ex and treating her horribly in public just IMAGINE what goes on behind the scenes. for all we know he could be talking about her non-stop and comparing them to deliberately make her self-esteem plummet, which is an emotional abuse tactic and VERY common in toxic relationships. this is obviously just speculation lol but it seems very likely to me, especially considering he was going back and forth between the two of them for years before he married hailey.
Selena needs to put a stop to this. She's letting her fans bully and degrade hailey and other women. She preches kindness but but won't put a stop to this- and she's done this to others too. She just stands by and let's people tear others done in her name.
She has defended Hailey more than once, it’s not her fault people aren’t listening. Every time there is drama that that revolves around them she defends Hailey.
Yikes. The hate towards Hailey is mental. CZcamsr Honest did a video on Selena Gomez, she's no saint. Not even close. Y'all are obsessed with such negativity. :/
Honest's video literally helped me mentally so much bc i felt like i was insane for not seeing all the nasty hateful things hailey was doing - she was just posting 😭 selena's the one acting like she's a victim of nothing here and it was making me feel legitimately insane that i didn't feel any upset towards hailey after having it explained over and over
@@lauryntonio you're not insane, you're just dealing with a bunch of immature people possessed by adrenaline that drama brings to them. There is a little bit of sadism in everyone that's getting a rise out of this situation and that's the truth
People are literally bullying Justin and Haley Bieber into divorce. They should stop hating on people for stupid stuff like this. It’s their personal stuff, they are old enough to deal with it by themselves
@@hkokoo it will surely end when she will end her life cos of bullying and will be more "entertaining". I am Worried for her. My friend took her life cos of bullying and its sad
Just be with the one you love!! Don't waste years. It goes too fast. Good luck to all of you!! I hope you all work it out!! Life can be hard when the heart ❤️ is involved xx
I think this blew up so much because people are over bullies. You don't get to treat people the way Hailey and her friends treated Selena and get away with it anymore. No Ma'am.
People that are over bullying do not start or justify bullying on someone else’s behalf. If it came out tomorrow that none of this was true or anyone’s business, the long-term damage is done. The internet is not always right with these fanfic theories on real people.
I know the selenators will come and attack me, but why are y’all investing so much time and energy to someone who doesn’t know you? Like use that time and energy on yourselves! It’s giving jobless behavior and I know most of you aren’t- also, this hatred towards hailey is only proving correct that you guys are a cult 💀💀
Im also separately concerned about what this says about our age group maturity. Ok, I am in my late 20s, Selena is 30 - you mean to tell me all these toxic haters are my f**ing age...? That's so concerning.....
0 seconds ago I'm a part Selenator, big Swift fsn, & big Bieber fan. I haven't been keeping up with this drama bc I'm busy. Not much of a fan of racist Hailey or kylie the worst sister. Tiktokers don't have 9 to 5 job like me. Am I judging them? No need to judge Selenator you don't b know 20 years ago if tiktok existed they would also be called jobless, even if Tiktok is a job and a 16 came in my office with her mother, not claimed as a dependent, with a w2 form. And she paid city of state fees from her own accounts
weather you like Hailey or not, it’s never ok to chant that :( I would never, ever! Get onto someone’s page and tell them to leave there spouse. People can’t get over the fact Selena and Justin broke up
I bet a lot of people that are not celebrities have had similar drama but strangers are not going to randomly hate on them so why do that with celebrities? Just cause they’re famous and people THINK they know their life personally? It’s annoying! Just learn from it and move on
If Hailey didn’t have those intentions of subliminal bullying like many say her and her friends did I hope she’s able to be free from that kind of harassment. However what if she put that out into the world and now that’s why she’s been getting it back 10 fold. Who really knows
I like Selena Gomez and I understand the dislike for hailey. I don’t like bullies at all. But they by no means excuses bullying her. Jfc, the chanting f hailey? really atrocious. This is how people end up unaliving themself. She is a human. Please treat her like one.
Omg this shit has been everywhere, can y’all stop putting women against each other in this industry. This is not “drama” or “tea” this is sad that women are constantly being put against each other because of fans and others.
Do i think what Hailey and her friends did was cruel and unacceptable? YES! However, Her entire relationship she has been compared to Selena. Having the media and fans telling her that she'll never be as good as selena, that justin will never love her like he did selena, etc. I can't imagine how that must weigh on her mental health. She definitely has reacted in the wrong way, but I think the internet would do well to take a lesson from selena on how to handle this. Words do matter, and they can make or break someones mental health. How would everyone feel if it came out that Hailey offed herself due to all of the cruel things being said about her? Also as other women we should be showing both parties love and kindness, not returning the "Mean Girl" attitude back to her. Bullying is bullying regardless of if you feel the party involved deserves it or not. To us its just online beef, a reality show, so far detached from us that we think whats being said doesn't matter. But this is their REAL LIFE. It is very possible to support and defend Selena without dishing out pure hatred to Hailey.
Selena shouldn’t have commented on the old scripted post of hailey! You never see hailey commenting on a video or anything directly towards selena and people are still hating on hailey. Like selena said she’s 30 to old for social media drama, but then starts the drama. It all doesn’t make sense.
Imagine when the crowd yelled f**k Hailey Justin said "yeah I literally get to do that every night"💀 but honestly if someone you're married to doesn't defend u in public while ppl legit chant curses it's time to say bye bye to his sorry a**
I just can’t believe this little drama has evolved into this gigantic mess.
Right!!
And selena just fueled it more tbh
Like even after the explanation of both hailey and Kylie
that's women for you
@@h3009 how?
@@h3009 Yea like how ????????
But why can't everyone hate each other silently? Damn
@Brianna Jenell no literally hate nd jealousy is one hella of a feeling that js builds up. aint no holdin it back when u boil UP.
people just want a reaction from the celebrity they're hating on. it's just how it is. no reaction = more hate
@Brianna Jenell it really doesn’t unless ur childish and dramatic
Lol
Cause u don't make money by that. U make money exploiting others name. Look at Chris. He made money by being slapped by Will... It's all about drama. Like personal promotion and Biebers r shameless
It’s so weird how people care this much especially when all parties have said to stop they’re all grown adults they don’t need the internet to babysit them.
You obviously care about all the drama that has been going on as well or else you wouldn't be clicking on these video's about the whole Selena and Hailey Bieber drama imao
@@BeautyQueen2023X They're commenting on social behaviour though, which.. is fascinating. As a case study, this mass hysteria is scary to observe and I think it behooves us to understand how this happens.
It is absolutely wild to watch. I feel awful for those on the negative end of the messages. I hope they have a good support system. It's incredible that the idol of those attacking fan groups don't take ownership of their power and just make this mess stop.
@@tabathaogost4982 I really don't care about what the hell you just said imao
@@BeautyQueen2023X 🤷♀
I’m lost as to why people can’t just dislike someone in they head and keep it movin 😂😭
Exactly
@Simplylol all this drama over some speculation too. I mean Selena literally was showing her middle finger in one of her “skincare videos” clearly mocking/bullying Hailey in May 2022 after H’s skincare video & still S is always the victim? Like c’mon people 😅
@@JadeOvO I dont comprehend how people have just gone on ignoring this. She posted this lotion middle finger video AFTER Hailey posted her lotion video. Where's the same energy?!
Right😭
@@Momofukudoodoowindu Exactly. & it wasn’t even a speculation like right now with this eyebrow drama. She was directly shading Hailey. Selena just has a great PR team who make her look like a victim in every situation. It’s a talent 🤌💀
I literally can’t escape this drama. It’s everywhere. I personally think it’s best for Hailey and Justin to don’t talk about it because people will continue to hate even more. I mean look at Selena … she gets hate when she doesn’t address anything and she also gets hate when she does especially on Twitter. People will never be satisfied.
it’s also annoying that every commentator is making videos about it, many of them are obviously attacking hailey and it’s just so weird. move on. this is the stalest weirdest drama …
@@dreamkitty You obviously care about the drama or else you wouldn't be watching these video's
Selena deserves to get dragged
@@BeautyQueen2023Xyou are the most annoying kind of person
@@BeautyQueen2023X not watching but reading the comments for opinions. If you’re gonna snap back, do better
It doesn’t matter how many times Selena addresses this, people are obsessed with drama. A lot of people clearly have nothing going on in their own lives so they create drama out of nothing. There’s a lot of toxic fandom on both sides of the fence. I’ve never seen so much come out of absolutely nothing.
I'm glad you called out Hailey's side to. This is getting out of of hand. I'm saying this & I have a war zone relationship shiv an estranged bro sister in law, who I even have a PI investigate for criminal records.
Yes they always try to act like it's the Selenators when Hailey Baldwin's fans also hate they make fun of her lupus and weight. Both sides of Fandom including Jelena needs to stop the hate train.
Drama channels like these certainly amplify and continue the drama instead of letting it die down. No shade bc I like watching these videos but they definitely don’t help lol
Selena instigated so much of the drama though. She publicly responded to Kylie saying there's no beef then supporting posts calling Hailey a btch and Kylie a mean girl. I love Selena and I've been a fan since Barney but y'all need to realize this isn't as one sided as you'd like. And y'all don't care about Selena until Justin's name is mentioned. Where's all this support for her music and documentary that flopped? Y'all aren't real fans your just nostalgic over Selena and Justin's 8 year old relationship and can't accept reality.
@@kermetthehog1237 this! people keep ignoring this part cause they just wanna bully and they love selena it doesnt even make sense its just crazy how people idolize over a stranger
Crazy I just went to my doctors appointment and the nurse asked if I was team Selena or Hailey 💀💀 I’m team ME cause this is getting out of hand
Naw real, i went to my anxiety group session and a girl started discussing that. I'm like my life has a bigger problem than celeb's high school drama and fans epic immaturity.
LOL I went to physio last week and my physiotherapist asked if I followed celeb drama and we talked about all this 😂 kinda getting out of hand at this point
Good for you
Right?! What a world we live in... where assumed gossip about celebrities is deemed more important than actual real life issues.
The internet literally f*$ked humanity.
Seriously lmfao
What do the fans want? Do they want HB to feel so cornered she resorts to self harm? This is severe severe severe bullying. If you follow and love someone for their kindness and generosity then why not emulate it?
exactly. people go so far, people end their lives because of stuff like this. they’re really out to ruin a life over stupid childish drama
i don’t agree with all the bullying but i really don’t feel bad for hailey anymore because she’s leaving her comments and socials open, and doing absolutely nothing about it. and she’s continuing to shoot for her makeup brands so clearly it doesn’t affect her that much.
@@angel-fk6rn she probably has obligations to do certain things. She’s an adult and has to work despite drama. Also, if she turned off comments, people would probably say she’s hiding and being weak.
@@angel-fk6rn I feel like your comment is “very soulless.” This is actually insane that people can’t even see her as a human being with feelings and a soul. Like what the actual… 🤯🤢
@@angel-fk6rn calling a stranger soulless while also saying you don’t feel bad for someone getting bullied is insane
I honestly never had a good impression of Hailey, maybe it’s because I have been a huge fan of Selena for years but it’s very irritating and quite infuriating when other selenators cherrypick and overanalyse every single post/video/photos/comments/interviews about Hailey and Selena, literally trying to create something out of absolutely nothing.
I don’t care about any of these people, but it is insane. The one that really messes with me is the people saying, “this is why your dog died,” to that one girl. People really need to grow up. There are far more important things going on with celebrities anyway. Manson being falsely accused by Wood and all those other women. Honestly, just focus on your own lives.
Your so right like am a Selena fan but all this is jus unnecessary. Like they are over doing it for me now like leave the ppl let them live their life . Yes Justin and Selena did once love each other but sometimes the people we love won’t always be right or what we need . And they were so young when they dated and had so much going I honestly don’t blame two in them for wanting to move on like people need to move on as well cuz this is going on for years now and they can’t see the man not gonna divorce his wife like plz .
I like Selena, am indifferent towards Hailey cause idk what she does lol, this whole thing is INSANE to me. People are crazy with pitchforks over nothing.
Selentors have a new theory, they think Hailey used magic because everyone would like to be with Selena so it must have been witchcraft that he is with Hailey
The fact Selena's stans are called "selenators"... bruh... how can you take them seriously with that name 💀
Imagine being constantly reminded of your ex, whom you broke up with years and years ago, and his wife … on a daily basis.
Watch Honest video about this drama, girly pops is thriving on this drama
and then liking videos and commenting on videos of your ex’s wife lol the delusion
@@anxietatema she does her PR well at least, you know she needs something for her music career
@@dreamkitty meanwhile hailey can’t have an original idea. Got the ring but copying the exs every move 🤣
@@lauramessy no amount of PR was helping Rare Beauty lol like it literally was not taking off in a dramatic way. so she capitalized off the drama.
I am not a Hailey fan or anything, but people forget that she is a human and that hate has a real impact on anybody who has experienced it. I genuinely hope that this nonsense drama stops soon (for both Selena's and Hailey's sake), I can't imagine how she is feeling and I really hope that this doesn't cause anything bad to her :(
Even in birthday moment still sending the sentence bla bla bla through the gift..it silly they cant enjoy the moment but still adressing something else
She should of thought about before being an accomplice to Kyle 🤷♀️ Hailey should know "reap what you sow" its taught in church, but she probably has to many demons in her that she gets distracted at church
Agree, can't agree more. Also, there are actual things to criticize Hailey for, like the situation to with her skincare brand. Same thing goes to Selena (as much as I love her, she is wrong for this) for facing her back towards her former friend Francia... the girl who literally saved her life.
Lol no she’s obsessed with Selena to the point where it’s creepy. Calling her out will humbler her
@@Dudettesluv Her obsession with Selena is just speculation. If you simply dislike her, that's fine in a way I dislike Hailey as well. But this "she is obsessed with Selena" is ridiculous. The only detail that comes off as truthful in my opinion is the tattoo.
Imagine marrying someone and a lot of strangers who have nothing to do with your relationship are asking your spouse to divorce you. That's sick af.
It's weird to me how Selena has said over and over to be kind and that she's very much anti bullying, yet her fans have been dragging Hailey and anyone else involved with her. Call Hailey out if she's being mean but don't turn around and bully her or others.
This whole drama has been blown out of proportion and people are taking every little thing to twist it into something it's probably not. Fans will never know what happened between Selena, Justin, and Hailey and they don't need to! It's no one's business but those involved. Also if Justin and Hailey aren't happy, it's between them.
Everyone just needs to calm down, touch grass, and find something else to do with their time.
Edit: I'm not on either "side" by the way. Selena should not have added fuel to the fire by liking or commenting anything that might seem like a greenlight. I just find it ironic that she talks about anti bullying but some of her fans jump on the chance to bully, that's it lol.
I totally agree with you. Selenators are always doing the exact opposite of what she’s asking her fans to do.
selena definitely greenlit her fans by commenting on videos that were dragging kylie/hailey and supporting her lmaoo are we really gonna act like she didn’t do that? okay.
Dude it's not just her fans it's literally Justin fans and jelena fans. What? U think because I'm a Selenator I bully Hailey? She deserves the hate but I don't participate in it stop reaching
@@cookielyon3937 Ikr
@@cookielyon3937 Did I say it was a l l Selena fans? Did I say it was only Selena fans? No I didn't. I was specifically talking about the people who claim to be such big fans but turn around and bully in her name despite knowing she wouldn't like it.
In the future if someone makes a comment on something, don't just assume they're generalizing. Or in your own words... stop reaching.
There's no reason to bully someone that brutally. This is getting out of hand, the Hailey hate needs to stop.
I agree, I'm all for exposing her as any bully shld be. Calling someone out clearly is what should be done while keeping mental health in mind. Charity events are good ways to expose ppl doing wrong if that needs to be done, speaking from b experience
Agree, it was funny at first its going beyond that at this point
At the same time this has been going on for a good while . It's best to just sit back and watch. Those haters probably have had enough with years of this b.s .
Selenators have been stalking Hailey since the wedding and will continue to stalk her, Justin has been stalked since 2014, Selenators want them to divorce
So what about the stylist of HAILEY who posted "I HATE SELENA" is that okay for you? BUT fans are not allowed to HATE HAILEY?? are you entitled? 😂😂😂
Yikes not a fan of either of them but the hate towards hailey is pure disgusting and nasty and to think about this all mess started on a mere assumption is wild asf.
For real. I’m not a fan of Hailey but these people acting acting like they’re so against bullying and mean girls yet…they’re bullying and being mean girls instead of not stooping to that level. Make it make sense
@@lorena.e agree... its also dishonest for people to claim that just the act of selena speaking out means shes the nice girl. So you mean to tell me that actions don't speak louder than words? Lol
@@Momofukudoodoowindu right? because didn’t selena comment on multiple videos that were blatantly calling hailey and kylie out and supporting her? she’s. a gaslighter for sure.
@@dreamkitty Like selena really thinks that low of her own fans. And I even like her music. She thinks I am so stupid, as someone whose almost her age, that I would just ignore the fact she has liked a bunch of tiktoks and IG posts hating on Hailey and Kylie. Its delusional.
@@dreamkitty frrrr lol she’s negged this on the entire time and then turns around and pretends she’s against it when it gets too bad
Not the male makeup artist trying to stir shit up and make it worse. If he was in Haley’s side he would support her in private instead of adding more feul to the fire. Sure Haley may be a mean girl but the reaction to this whole drama has been taken way too far. I can’t imagine what it’s like to live in Hayley’s circle rn. I love Selena so listen to her when she says to be kinder.
Right? That stylist/MUA or whatever he is needs to stfu. Clearly he wants attention, but that it an AWFUL way to go about it as a professional. A lot of people are going to see that and decide not to work with him regardless of whatever side they sit on. Believe it or not, people don't like to work with problematic, clout hungry 'professionals'. Even if he did think it critical he take Hailey's side in the drama, there's much more diplomatic ways to address it without throwing hate directly at Selena like that.
I’m not a Selena hater, BUT I find it odd that people are calling Hailey a mean girl (which may be true idk) and then ignoring the times when selena has made rude comments towards girls Justin was involved with. We don’t know what happened behind the scenes and some of the “evidence” of Hailey being obsessed/a mean girl is a reach.
All of it are reaches… it’s the lunatic fans who think everything circles back to Selena.
There is far more evidence of Selena being ‘shady’ online as opposed to Hailey but her fans ignore it or say “Yes, Queen Selena” lol!
The evidence like the tattoos and how she repeats what selena says are NOT A REACH, i think she is mean girl. But for sure, Selena has smth for sure
@@a.a131 u obviously is brainwashed by fake news 😂 she didn’t copy Selena these are false narratives created by Selena’s fanbase lol
@@a.a131 Hailey got the tattoo first love
Selena literally gets hate on TikTok also. They both get hate and some of them make racist jokes about her and they make fun of her weight and lupus. Honestly they both get hate it's ridiculous.
To be honest… it’s a good thing he’s not speaking. If THIS is what people are saying without commentary…. Imagine if he DID say something.
People just need to relax. If he posted photos with them smiling people would say he doing too much, he post regular photo to show he doesn’t care about the drama now he ain’t doing enough. Everyone feels like they just so entitled for answers.
Exactly!!
I dont understand why people are so invested. Honestly Hailey can't fart without the stands taking it as bomb threat against Selena.
THIS TOOK ME OUT 💀💀😂😂😂
😅😅😅
She better hold that fart in !!!!
@@jessicavalley9211 let’s not bully her for her disease now. Just call S & her unreasonable fans out for their actual problematic behavior
@@jessicavalley9211 you did not just body shame someone with a life-threatening auto-immune disease. you are the bully you claim Selena is
I’m not team Selena or team Hailey. I’m team women supporting women. This mess is so disgusting. Everyone needs to be left alone, it’s their lives, not ours so just mind your own business
Women supporting women doesn’t really work all the time in personal lives. Women are allowed to dislike other women, and it doesn’t make them bad people
I don't understand the " women supporting women thing". I don't have to feel pressured to support a bully just because she's a woman. Let's face it. Bullying between women is very common. I've been mocked in middle school and high school for my clothes and appearance by girls. I'm female. They were the worst. I'd rather support people with whom I share similar principles than gender. Hailey is a hypochrite. Coming in and talking about mental health while being a bully and a stalker. It's good that she got called out. She should apologise and move on but she's holding on to her pride. These generations of young people need positive influencers to change this crappy little world.
@@pas_du_tout 100% agree👍👍👍
@@pas_du_tout how is she being a bully though? You’re literally reaching. Stop projecting your childhood trauma onto what others are doing. She said she doesn’t like Taylor Swift, that’s probably the worst thing she’s done and she’s allowed to like or dislike certain artists. Touch some grass
i can’t believe this same drama has been going on for YEARS now like it’s absolutely ridiculous how these grown adults are still acting like they’re in high school! it’s embarrassing all around.
EXACTLY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And yet you are stilling wasting your time watching these video's about the whole Selena and Hailey Bieber drama lol
Just admit that you find the whole drama insteresting
@@BeautyQueen2023X what’s with the bitchy tone? lol you act like i sat through the whole thing twiddling my thumbs when i didn’t even sit through a minute of it PLEASE it’s not ever that serious 😂
@mariah don't mind this kenya girl, I've seen her comment on literally every single comment on this video so far arguing with people and defending the selena fans 🙄 literally proving the point of toxicity
I like reading the comment section to these drama videos and watch how easily ya’ll opinions shift one day to the next depending on what the larger group is doing.
This!!! The comments this week have definitely switched. Everyone was ganging up on that girl to now be like “Ooo y’all are taking this too far.” Like who is Y’ALL? Don’t you mean YOU. Half of these people were making jokes and picking sides all week.
I’m glad y’all are seeing this too!! People are so quick to be nasty and mean online
There is no way Justin organised party favours
I am worried for everyone and their mental health .... Selena too actually. This has to be a lot for her. When people raise you THAT high, it is a long way down and no one is a saint.
I respect you for being objective in looking at the while Justin photo/tattoo/gift stuff. It’s all drama at the end of the day, and while I’m definity under the belief that Selena has full right to defend herself (while still speaking out against harassment towards others), shitting on Hailey and making her question the love of her life is fucked up. We literally don’t know how their relationship works. This adds nothing to the whole “mean girl” convo
I do want to clarify that I don’t think Selena is the problem . Im stunned at how publicly shady Hailey is being towards Sel, even if its unintentional . Like girl you know what’s going on in the drama circle, think a little bit harder before you post something… it’s not that difficult
At this point, it’s not just Selena fans hating on Hailey. It’s just random people that can see how messed up the situation is. The memes are also kinda funny.
Exactly!!! The hate is just from the miserable people who found a reason to lash out. Trolls.
@@coolstoryjenn That and it's also a lil' creepy about how much proof people have about Hailey's stalker behavior; it just keeps piling up.
@@kath8440 RIGHT. Imagine being apart of the generation that watched all that happen in real time dude. Now it’s coming back up and we can’t ignore it. Times are different!
I am not siding with either because I don’t know the full details. But I find it a little bit weird that Selena keep saying “be kind” or stuff like that, and then commenting on posts that *allegedly* targeted her saying “I don’t let these things bother me” or something like that. She has massive devoted following, she must have known that it would get intense reaction and fuel the fire.
i can only imagine the arguments they’ve been having over all this. to be a fly on the wall
😂 girl I was triangulated in a similar situation and let me tell you…💣💣💣💣
girl that’s not funny or cute
@@Candicedickinsonllc it really wasn’t funny. It was traumatic 💔
If she cared so much why did she dig up an old ass video of a skit Hailey did? She clearly was looking for anything to make Hailey look even worse 😂. Bringing in Taylor fans to attack Hailey as well. Selena’s actions don’t match with someone who’s “mature” and “kind” 😂. Also why did she comment saying she “likes kylie” then proceeded to comment on TikTok’s saying kylie was talking about her 💀. Like sis are you ok? How does she contradict herself so much? Selena gives me weirdo energy.
exactly and that was a brand new page with only one video
Do for you pages not exist anymore? It easily could’ve popped up on her feed. All of the stuff Hailey has done make her look bad regardless of whether Selena commented or not.
and the one calling her and hailey a bitch! Selena needs to give this part of her life up and just get better for real! Like im worried I know she isnt 100% evil but the shit I have seen this year especially francia has left me DUMBFOUNDED. I could never be able to cut francia off, drink and do drugs, and talk about her with disrespect in the public. and not even mention the person who saved her fucking life in her doc (and couldnt get on a list because of her long ass drug use history) you would think she would have it in her heart like if you are truly kind and genuine in your heart, and have empathy, you would not do any of what selena has done and said to her like im so upset for francia i cant imagine how she must be dealing with this burden knowing her kidney is with someone who did not deserve it sorry its true
Because she is hurt too she is also a humab
@@an-qo6by yes that’s just her showing her true colors tbh, and she said Taylor was her only friend in the industry, Francia even commented and unfollowed her after that.
She’s ungrateful, Francia risked her life and she’s just killing the kidney she gave her by drinking and doing drugs. She’s always drunk at red carpets 💀.
I don't think he cares about pleasing anyone by showing photos of him and hailey happy together, she probably does but he is more mature and self aware he knows he doesn't have to please or sode with anyone
He’s should defend his wife that’s the bare minimum
i dont understand why Justin, Hailey, and Selena can't just sit down and make a video together and shut it all down. It's that simple.
@vidaverde hahahah what? You sound like a stalker you cant call someone a fucking stalker or bully based on their social media? And hailey is so sweet but you dont know that because all you have heard of her is that she is mean but i myself have met her irl and she is the sweetest so ffs SOCIAL MEDIA IS FAKE
@vidaverde Bullying where? Hailey didn’t even say something bad about Selena 😂
I never thought this drama would evolve into this huge mess. People really need to get a life and let this grown ass adults live their life.
People are so cruel. Like hailey or not, she doesn’t deserve this extreme level of hatred. She’s a human too.
I'm team Selena buuuuuut does anyone else find it weird that social media has been posting "f*** hailey" or "I hate hailey" and the posts dont get removed? But ones like "I hate selena" are getting removed?
Kinda weird 🤔
Girl, your gut is right. Believe it. Its not weird, its targeted harassment.
Is it tiktok? Tokyo
Tiktokis a pedo ring anyways that raises kids alongwith the state
Probably people mass reporting. A stylist who worked w Hailey Bieber and is friends w Justine Skye posted a story w ‘I hate Selena Gomez’ and it got removed fast
Selena’s PR team is no joke. It has literally made her drug/alcohol rehab stints, cheating scandals, kidney donor drama disappear & made her a victim narrative shine in everything
@@JadeOvO I know I cant express to you how often people tell me I'm "crazy and hateful" for describing selena as being an alcoholic.
why can't Selena just say "stop hating on Hailey, the drama with Justin is over let's move on"? she always says stuff like "care about others mental health", "words matter", etc. however it would be way more effective to just say to stop hating Hailey. now i've got a feeling that she enjoys all this hate and just wanna seem a good person with morals. no way i'll believe that she cares about Hailey's mental health after all those comments, especially when she commented on some other person's post where Hailey gaged after Taylor Swift album mentioning. it literally happened 5 years ago (as far as i know) and it is not relevant. how can people support that childish behavior?
Hailey has thrown direct shots at Selena. It’s extremely easily to see that if anyone should apologize it’s Justin’s fan girl
@@weekndbae i am not saying Selena should apologize. it just seems fake to act as if you don't want any drama but do as little as possible to end it
Hailey is the one that starts these hate things.
And when Selena pushes back. People like you get upset as to why she is standing up for herself.
Hailey is the one that needs the attention. SG is far bigger than Hailey in her own right.
@Trisha Bidesi The drama was dying down. Selena HAD to comment on old videos to stir things up. She doesn't have to say or do anything because you all do the dirty work for her. After Hailey gets dragged for a week, she always comes back out and says the littlest things to make her seem angelic.
Shut the hell up she was being bullied for many years why she would say that she is not gonna defend anyone did you get that ? As yeah is this Hailey from fake account you bitch
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It started form the eyebrows and now it’s getting so much deeper
This comment is everything. I'm glad I neglected my eyebrows for a week
this all started since the podcast just slowly got bigger and bigger
🤣🤣🥲
Even the eyebrows I thought was a big reach
I feel like they are trying to distract us idk from what but it’s RIDICULOUS how big this situation has gotten
Yeah
Justin could cover up that tattoo if he wanted to. It would be nothing to him in terms of cost or finding someone who will do it well.
I have tattoos that represent important and meaningful parts of my life. He could have moved on yet, appreciates that time in his life. It may not mean he misses her in that way or wants her back.
True
OK , WATEVA
he cover it with a demon in Selena's place
There's literally a grown man and father on Tiktok saying he thinks Hailey should be "water-boarded." I love Selena but that's disgusting and it's gone way too far. What if Hailey hurts herself over this? Gross behavior from pathetic people.
Honestly the people saying Selena and Justin should’ve been endgame are the same people that would say Brooke and Lucas should’ve been end game (from One Tree Hill)
The lighter reads to me "I'm grateful Im not strung out" more than girl drama
right i was thinking it meant he was glad he didn’t turn to a life of drug use/continued reckless behavior even if he may have wanted to at one point. it was his birthday, he made it another year, that’s always an accomplishment
Exactly… if you watch his old show Seasons, you can see where his mindset and intentions are.
It’s more about having a more grounded lifestyle. People saying it was Hailey who chose the quote and gift, are wrong. It is a very Justin thing to say. IMO at least
@@hummingbirderr idk ...maybe that would be more believable if it wasn't literally a magic mushroom themed party.
After Selena kept on commenting on random tik toks and stirring up the pot now she’s telling people to stop……
I’m not team Hailey but Selena is clearly problematic as well, she just has better PR than Hailey
this!
Yes sure pretend grl act like innocent Selena she plans better
Listen nothing about Hailey is likable but it has gone too far..at this point just leave them all alone
I dont hate hailey and i dont judge her but as i can see in her action she has bad behaviour that everyone will not going to like i feel sorry for her bcs she's Christian but she didn't act like a Christian
The comments in this video are so funny to me. Just a few videos ago, more than half of the comments on this channel were pure hatred towards Hailey, and the owner of this channel liked a few of them. Now the tides have turned and everyone is seeing how it's been such a sick game all along. This goes to show that Social media is one big echo chamber and whatever is in vogue for the moment reigns. I'm just glad people are coming to see how sick and twisted it's all been from the start. I was starting to think something drastically bad would have to happen to Hailey for the madness to be over. Glad it didn't get to that.
That's because we have social media like Tiktok co parenting kids with the state that days. Tiktok is also a pedo ring. Social media just replaced old school high-school mall or bathrooms, where everybody goes to do hs drama. We're seeing the effects of a digitized hs where ppl pop off & mean girl or stalk each other after hs
this
This is why not a lot celebs has relationships together. They are always being destroyed by media or social media.
This drama has no ending...this goes on and on 🔁
I definitely subscribe to the theory that back in 2018 Justin just wanted to get married, Selena wasn't ready, and Hailey was the first girl to say yes
Idk why people access to the internet give them full audacity to be so cruel but it’s wild how none of the fans on either side haven’t been arrested by the fbi yet for stalking those 3.
I dont know maybe it's just me I was team Selena but ever since she dissed the girl who donated her kidney to her, kinda made me change my mind about the kind of person she is. Celebrities only show you what they want you to see
you have to think about the type of person that doesn’t acknowledge someone that literally gave them a second chance at life. like she could’ve potentially passed if it weren’t for Francia .. imagine being in the shoes of a recipient whose been on that kidney donor list for years waiting on a phone call that your pain and troubles will be cut in half. yeah. no decent human would be drinking afterwards and calling their donor (that they personally know) “the person”
I felt that same way as you too when I first found out but I honestly don’t know what happened behind closed doors between Selena and that girl who donated her kidney and we will never know. I know It is a huge deal that someone saves your life with their very own organ. I mean Selena’s alive cause of her.
But I feel like if that same person acts like well you better do this say this or that because I donated you my kidney continuously, I would step away from that and try to live my own life since I did survive death. Selena did mention her name several times and was thankful for her but no one really knows what happened between them. Selena might’ve been an ungrateful person or that girl could’ve just turned out toxic for Selena. I guess we won’t know.
search up "Selena Gomez Is So Messy" by honest. And yeah I agree- I was a HUGEEEE like obsessed type of fan of Selena's but when I saw what she did to Francia- my heart sunk. Her true character showed. That type of situation is mindblowing- francia legit saved selena's fucking LIFE! She was not able to get on the kidney list cause she does drugs (coke and heavier even not sure if she still does the heavy stuff but coke she does even now as we speak) So to be this way after EVERYTHING, to treat the person who saved you like that is disgusting. I will never look at her the same again lol its crazy
Okay bye bye 👋
Francia and Selena are good girls. Before the operation, they are old friends. As a good old friend and donor, Francia tried hard to give a health advice to Selina. At that time Selena was a patient with kidney replacement (before & after treatment) and just closed to death. Her mental was not in a good condition (patient's emotional unstable). So it mabey had a miscommunication & misunderstanding between both side.
Imagine fighting over Justin Bieber in 2023 💀. Leave that man in 2012 please
It's time to leave these people alone. I think the message has been driven into the ground. We don't like people bullying others at any age. But they are trying to move past this now. Give them grace and let them move past this in their own way. Hopefully, lessons have been learned, and history doesn't repeat itself.
i’ve never been a fan of hailey never been a hater either just haven’t ever paid enough attention to her to care. but this bullying thats going on rn is way too far and actually fucking insane. she’s a human being with real feelings and she’s probably struggling so much rn bc of this :(
I think if they just have a statement once and for all like all 3 of them, this will end forever…cause there’s so many gaps that people obsess over. Team Selena but the rolling loud thing was really mean
People are so ridiculous, they say how obsessed Justin and Hailey are with Selena. But their whole relationship fans have screamed Selena's name at them..🙄
@Countess Fenring "they are so obsessed with Selena, why didn't they think of her before they got married??"
Such a dumb argument 😂
Wasn't selena caught with Orlando bloom while he was with Katy Perry.
@Countess Fenring yeah I bet before you advance in any relationship, you consider the people from your pasts feelings and expect others to bring up your ex constantly.
But she just continues to give her fans the green lights u know???
This is seriously too much, both these women are amazing and both are human and not perfect! This drama is getting out of hand.
You know what this drama has done? Pushed me firmly on Hailey's side in this debacle. Not everything the girl does and posts has to be about someone especially your husband of 5 years ex.
The amount of racist things Justine Skye is getting by selenators, the hate Kylie is getting for what? Posting her eyebrows which she does all the time and the vitrol towards Hailey and about her health is absolutely disgusting. These stans are deranged and need to get a life.
"selenators" 💀💀💀💀💀
I said this when it all started: Selena should've never commented anything on any TikTok related to this. If she hadn't done it none of this would've happened. Its annoying how y'all try to make her the angel in every situation yet shes been famous for many years and still doesn't know how much power her actions have?
Imma give it to her though, she knows how to play it so she doesn't look like the bad guy
True! Selena is a huge manipulator. I really liked her before this.
Dude celebrities should be allowed to be messy especially when it’s just between each other. People keep saying ‘she’s not innocent either’/‘she’s not an angel either’/‘she’s playing victim’ as if she did something worth criticism. When what she says isn’t actually mean, but it’s ‘calculating and manipulative’ to just mention someone. The most she does to upset you people is not react perfectly or the way you want her to, but that doesn’t make her bad person. Like regular people would say way worse if they were in the same situation. It’d be better if celebrities could just be upfront about disliking someone, without being criticized.
Poor Hailey. I swear if she survives this marriage she can survive literally anything!! Girl can’t catch a break 🤦🏻♀️ it’s so sad. Idk why people feel like just bc they love Selena they can’t like Hailey too, those people really need to grow up & find something better to do with their time then hate on her on the internet
Let’s not collectively bully a young woman to death. Anyone who has been bullied by this brand of mean girl KNOWS Haileys behavior and it’s the WORST. but come on! She probably got this way by her lunatic-born again father and the patriarchal structure that allows this sort of jealousy/structuring her whole self esteem on a man. Justin probably gets off on it, ew but true
you literally don’t know what you’re talking about regarding hailey’s character lol
@@dreamkitty oh and you do? Are you a troll for Hailey? That’s something someone on the inside would say! Lol glad you know her so well. Enlighten us.
@@youtubecensorsthetruth4625 when did i say i know her? all i said is that you don’t .. none us do. you look really delusional going so hard for a strange. take. a deep breath, relax your shoulders. selena doesn’t know you. calm down.
@@dreamkitty I get that you like hailey bieber but from all your comments it seems you may have a bit of a parasocial relationship, I would work on that! its not very healthy
@@SpecialUnicorn798 thanks for stalking me but i’ve shown no support for hailey whatsoever in any of my comments 🤣 i don’t have to like hailey to dislike selena. i just don’t like selena cause she’s a gaslighter.it’s not healthy to stalk me across the youtube section and act like you know what i’m thinking and how i feel! that’s very mental! please seek help for your issues!
people give hailey a lot of hassle for being "obsessed" with selena gomez but if her husband is constantly dropping hints like showing off his tattoo of his ex and treating her horribly in public just IMAGINE what goes on behind the scenes. for all we know he could be talking about her non-stop and comparing them to deliberately make her self-esteem plummet, which is an emotional abuse tactic and VERY common in toxic relationships.
this is obviously just speculation lol but it seems very likely to me, especially considering he was going back and forth between the two of them for years before he married hailey.
She is just an amazing human. Very rare to have both inner and outer beauty to match
I'm not even a fan, just from what I've observed since it's hard to avoid the situation in the past weeks
maybe the people you hang out with suck ?
stop making this drama go on more please. move on everyone.
If you don't care don't watch it
Selena needs to put a stop to this. She's letting her fans bully and degrade hailey and other women. She preches kindness but but won't put a stop to this- and she's done this to others too. She just stands by and let's people tear others done in her name.
She has defended Hailey more than once, it’s not her fault people aren’t listening. Every time there is drama that that revolves around them she defends Hailey.
“Showing off the tattoo on his instagram” dawg it’s on his ARM above his HAND it’s INCREDIBLY VISIBLE
Yikes. The hate towards Hailey is mental. CZcamsr Honest did a video on Selena Gomez, she's no saint. Not even close. Y'all are obsessed with such negativity. :/
Honest's video literally helped me mentally so much bc i felt like i was insane for not seeing all the nasty hateful things hailey was doing - she was just posting 😭 selena's the one acting like she's a victim of nothing here and it was making me feel legitimately insane that i didn't feel any upset towards hailey after having it explained over and over
"Trust the monster, not the prince." Literally speaks volumes here
Also check out the "ExposingSMG" CZcams channel. She has many videos on Selena's behavior to balance the public court of opinion.
@@lauryntonio you're not insane, you're just dealing with a bunch of immature people possessed by adrenaline that drama brings to them. There is a little bit of sadism in everyone that's getting a rise out of this situation and that's the truth
This!!
I watched honest and how people did forget?
Thankyou for tearing other women down and bringing me up🥰. What a great person she is
Right?! 🙄🤦♀️
@Countess Fenring stop pathologizing Haileys reaction to selenas behavior. The source is selena, not Hailey.
Ikrrr .
Brasil selena e única linda selena .
People are literally bullying Justin and Haley Bieber into divorce. They should stop hating on people for stupid stuff like this. It’s their personal stuff, they are old enough to deal with it by themselves
I don't care about any of these people but this is entertaining as hell and I don't want it to end
yeah people trying to ruin lives is SO funny. bffr
@@saardcv I mean people being rude isn't the funny part I just like meaningless drama lol
Same lol
@@hkokoo meaningless to you yeah. people are ATTACKING Hailey. I don’t even want to know the psychotic crazy DM’s Selena fans are sending her
@@hkokoo it will surely end when she will end her life cos of bullying and will be more "entertaining". I am Worried for her. My friend took her life cos of bullying and its sad
Regardless of the drama, my HUSBAND better be wearing his damn wedding ring.
Just be with the one you love!! Don't waste years. It goes too fast. Good luck to all of you!! I hope you all work it out!! Life can be hard when the heart ❤️ is involved xx
Let them all be free they are mature people living their best lives♥️
I think this blew up so much because people are over bullies. You don't get to treat people the way Hailey and her friends treated Selena and get away with it anymore. No Ma'am.
People that are over bullying do not start or justify bullying on someone else’s behalf. If it came out tomorrow that none of this was true or anyone’s business, the long-term damage is done. The internet is not always right with these fanfic theories on real people.
What did she even do
Ironically, people that hate Hailey and co. for being mean girls that bully others are doing the exact same things and much worse
i love love selena
I’m not gonna lie, those party favors would be weird for anyones birthday
Right ! So weird. Hailey definitely picked those out for her own weird validations.
Right😂
I know the selenators will come and attack me, but why are y’all investing so much time and energy to someone who doesn’t know you? Like use that time and energy on yourselves! It’s giving jobless behavior and I know most of you aren’t- also, this hatred towards hailey is only proving correct that you guys are a cult 💀💀
I 100% percent agree
Im also separately concerned about what this says about our age group maturity. Ok, I am in my late 20s, Selena is 30 - you mean to tell me all these toxic haters are my f**ing age...? That's so concerning.....
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I'm a part Selenator, big Swift
fsn, & big Bieber fan. I haven't been keeping up with this drama bc I'm busy. Not much of a fan of racist Hailey or kylie the worst sister. Tiktokers don't have 9 to 5 job like me. Am I judging them? No need to judge Selenator you don't b know
20 years ago if tiktok existed they would also be called jobless, even if Tiktok is a job and a 16 came in my office with her mother, not claimed as a dependent, with a w2 form. And she paid city of state fees from her own accounts
This is crazy everyone just needs to leave them alone it’s awful how intrusive society has become
Unpopular opinion: I mostly feel sorry for Hailey and I hope she is okay
Yea she is no angel but this is cyberbullying
it’s crazy that a lot of the hate hailey is getting comes from justin’s own fans
Does he have a song coming out ?
weather you like Hailey or not, it’s never ok to chant that :( I would never, ever! Get onto someone’s page and tell them to leave there spouse. People can’t get over the fact Selena and Justin broke up
Selena’s fandom is THE MOST TOXIC and I cannot say this better
this drama will never go away like goddamn
all of them said their over it so the fans need to get over it too
I bet a lot of people that are not celebrities have had similar drama but strangers are not going to randomly hate on them so why do that with celebrities? Just cause they’re famous and people THINK they know their life personally? It’s annoying! Just learn from it and move on
If Hailey didn’t have those intentions of subliminal bullying like many say her and her friends did I hope she’s able to be free from that kind of harassment.
However what if she put that out into the world and now that’s why she’s been getting it back 10 fold.
Who really knows
That tiktok is definitely shady, but we have no idea who it was meant for. Could be she shade her paralysis demon or something. 😂
I like Selena Gomez and I understand the dislike for hailey. I don’t like bullies at all. But they by no means excuses bullying her. Jfc, the chanting f hailey? really atrocious. This is how people end up unaliving themself. She is a human. Please treat her like one.
This situation went on for too long and I think all three just have to coordinate a post together and tell everyone to stop.
Omg this shit has been everywhere, can y’all stop putting women against each other in this industry. This is not “drama” or “tea” this is sad that women are constantly being put against each other because of fans and others.
Do i think what Hailey and her friends did was cruel and unacceptable? YES! However, Her entire relationship she has been compared to Selena. Having the media and fans telling her that she'll never be as good as selena, that justin will never love her like he did selena, etc. I can't imagine how that must weigh on her mental health. She definitely has reacted in the wrong way, but I think the internet would do well to take a lesson from selena on how to handle this. Words do matter, and they can make or break someones mental health. How would everyone feel if it came out that Hailey offed herself due to all of the cruel things being said about her? Also as other women we should be showing both parties love and kindness, not returning the "Mean Girl" attitude back to her. Bullying is bullying regardless of if you feel the party involved deserves it or not. To us its just online beef, a reality show, so far detached from us that we think whats being said doesn't matter. But this is their REAL LIFE. It is very possible to support and defend Selena without dishing out pure hatred to Hailey.
Selena shouldn’t have commented on the old scripted post of hailey! You never see hailey commenting on a video or anything directly towards selena and people are still hating on hailey. Like selena said she’s 30 to old for social media drama, but then starts the drama. It all doesn’t make sense.
Yess!!! She has a massive amount of devoted fans she must have known the uproar it would cause by commenting on those posts.
No seriously, if I was Hayley Id be considering divorce or isolation because this is fucking insane
She would never consider either. She will ride until the wheels fall off. Justin on the other hand.
I feel so bad for Hailey. A song about her called “always be a fan” is going viral on tiktok. The bullying and hate comments are insane!
I love Selena Gomez, thanks for sharing this story
I bet you Selena’s little sis knows alllll the tea ☕️ 🫖 🔥
At this point, the whole drama is just annoying and embarrassing. 😑
Good job. Me personally, I’m tired of this topic. But I’m old so there’s that. Lol.
Imagine when the crowd yelled f**k Hailey Justin said "yeah I literally get to do that every night"💀 but honestly if someone you're married to doesn't defend u in public while ppl legit chant curses it's time to say bye bye to his sorry a**