Choosing a Vespa! - All the differences EXPLAINED!
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- čas přidán 28. 11. 2022
- Trying to make sense of all of the Vespa models? What's the difference between a Vespa Sprint and a Vespa Primavera? Are there differences between a 50cc Vespa and a 150cc Vespa other than the engine? Should I get a 300cc or is a 150cc enough? There are so many questions. In this video I try to answer many of them! Check out the entire line of Vespas by connecting with the amazing team at Jim Gilbert's PowerSports here: powersports.wheelsanddeals.ca...
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Excellent video, have been searching for a good comparison of the Vespas for a while!
Thank you for this video!! Excellent explanation!! It would be also nice to see how they ride :)
I own a GTS 300 and my wife also has a 300. Here's from my experience if you have a motorcycle driver's permit why would you buy a 150cc if you have the money....I rode with 150cc and 300 several times on country roads the 150cc are really struggling to go up hills compared to 300s.... The 300 is safer to get away from cars following you too closely .... Get the 300 you will be happy you did.... If you don't have a motorcycle driver's permit , ride in the city, flat streets no hills and don't want to spend much get a 50cc.....get a Honda Giorgio 50cc cheaper cost and much more reliable and much,much more dealers.
I'm a big fan of the 150cc. That would be my choice. I'll make a video explaining why in the future. The 50cc and 300cc are both great for specific users, for sure. I can see the draw to the 300cc as it can do a lot of what you're looking for, but as I said, the 150cc would be my choice.
@@PeterLoweOne I understand I also own a 2022 Honda Grom abs 125 5 speed good for in town ,no hills ,off highway .... If we had the Honda Adv 350 scooter available in Canada I would trade my Vespa GTS 300 tomorrow for it just my opinion
@@philipdumont2286 I love the look of the Vespa 300 and wouldn't trade it for an adventure scooter. I think Vespas are a class above any other scooter. They're iconic for a reason.
@@PeterLoweOne just cost me $600 of repairs (transmission) and waiting 2 months for the new part .to arrive from Italy , on my 2020 gts300 6000 km , I like the look less... 😁
@@PeterLoweOne I might trade it next spring for a BMW GT 400
Great video. Thank you for the comprehensive comparison.
Thanks for watching! I appreciate it!
Excellent thorough video
this is super helpful!
excellent basic breakdown.. the website was not easy to navigate and confusing nearly made me bypass doing research on the brand. Vespa owe you a beer !
Hi Peter, great job! Greetings from Montreal Qc. I am a seasoned motorcycle rider who owned a Suzuki Intruder 1400 and Kawasaki Vulcan Voyager. Switching from a 900 pounds machine to a Vespa was fun!!! I am able to perform mechanical work on my machines so I bought a used 2007 LX150 with 7K and made some refreshments. What a gem…I am very impressed by the Vespa quality. Love to ride around town the 150cc is perfect for my needs. I still own a vintage 1975 Honda CB360T.
Love Honda and all Japanese bike's especially the air cooled bike's IV still got a CB125E and Yamaha FJR 1300 06 I wouldn't buy a new motorcycle these days to many electronics and computer's to worry about breaking down IV heard some real horror storys about some of these new bike's
Where would the Electrica fit into this line up? Great review. Thanks.
Great video thanks ❤
Fantastic review!! Love the pace of the video. Packed with info and moves along nicely. Driver body weight must play into the decision making. If I weight 240, stand 6’1” would you recommend the GTS 300?
I like the smaller model for around town parking and maneuvering. What say you ?
I'm 175 lbs. Height won't be an issue. Both scooters are capable of taking me and a passenger, so they can handle your weight, but you may find that the larger scooter handles it better. Having said that, the smaller bodied scooter can handle you too.
Buy a Honda CB 125E much cheaper and so much cheaper and easier to service and air cooled you can service and repair practically anything on this bike
My favorite Vespa is the Yacht Club edition. I have been looking for a nice used one for awhile now with no luck.
After my research, I feel that a Vespa 50cc is best for me. I just barely taught myself to ride the current one I have. I like the Piaggio Liberty as well. It’s a bucket list thing for me.
A 50cc is a great place to start. Thanks for watching!
hi, my pride and joys are a White GTS300, and my daily commuter is a Black Piaggio Liberty 125! Love them both for different reasons, very good Scooters!
@@m12ttd That's awesome! Feel free to subscribe! I'm hoping to build a little community here of riders who know and love these bikes! It's always great to have other fans around to share their experiences!
I can suggest you to start with 125, is the best and funnier
Ok good people let me lay it on the line for you...I'm 180 lbs 5'9 in height. I own a 2023 Vespa Sprint S 150cc. It's amazing. I teetered back and forth between the 300 and the 150 but settled for the 150 because it felt less bulky, and I felt a higher sense of confidence on it. I'm not sure where some of these comments come from, but... I've had mine up to 70-72 mph. However, the sweet spot is between 60 to 65 mph, no problem. I would never race it on the highway, but I do ride it with careful confidence. Confidence is priceless while on any the road. ( I live in St Louis, Mo.) Allow me to give you a little helpful guide if you're wondering what to get. Hands down go for 150 Sprint. It's an amazing bike with enough power even on highways. But if 50% or more of your commute is on highways, buy the 300 because you'll appreciate the extra weight during strong windy days and the extra power should you need it. Cheers!
In England that hook between your knees is known as a CURRY HOOK, ...for takeaways.etc.
Good explanation.
Keep going
Thanks for watching!
i love my Vespa Gts 300 (pity I had to get my full motorcycle licence at 48) but now i can even take it touring and love going around the city in it.
Awesome! thanks for sharing!
What is the top speed on it?
I’m thinking of getting my full licence I own a 125 lambretta and want to buy a Vespa 300 how long did it take to pass your full bike test and cost ? Uk
@@The77Game over 120 kph i believe but youd never do that its more about the tork
@@powerbookg4apple couple of months and id say nearly 5-700 quid by the time i was finished etc
Normally, they call it a trapezoid headlight. I have one on my vintage Vespa sprint. Also, the “nub” on the fender is called the fender crest.
Haha! Yes! That's the problem with working without a word for word script! Thanks!
@@PeterLoweOne if you really look closely, there are 8 sides so octagon headlights I think it true
To small wheels, I have a Kymco 50 cc with 14 " back wheel and 16 inch front wheel.
Hey, nice video. Very informative.
On the Sprint 50S; it looks like it also has a helmet hook under the seat (at the 10:19 mark), is that true?
I could see inside when you removed the trunk area; it is easy to remove the battery?
The only 50cc Piaggio or Vespa scooter that I've seen without those helmet clips under the seat is the Typhoon. The Primavera, Sprint, and Liberty all have them. As far as the battery being removable. I haven't done it, but it doesn't seem complicated in any of them to me.
I owned a Vespa 200cc or maybe it was a 250cc not sure. A 2 stroke back in 1978 / 79. I somehow think the scooters are smaller now? The one I had came with a brake pedal on the floor. At least that is how I remember it. Are these vehicles smaller now. Less space between the seat and front? Not sure
Question. My wife and I, both older and on the shorter side, want a motor scooter for use in a touristy, European town. Typical use: riding together over a couple of hills in a 30 m.p.h. (equivalent) speed zone, to buy groceries - using front and rear (optional) racks. No highway driving. She wants a Vespa. A (tall) friend, who rides a Vespa in the U.S. says we definitely want a GTS 300 (283cc) and that it's easy even for us to handle. Another friend, who lives in the town in question, recently sold a 250cc scooter in favor of a 150cc scooter. He says 150cc is more than ample for the two of us together, and do the hills. Any further suggestions?
In 50cc you can have both Primavera and Sprint models , the Primavera is the round headlight and the Sprint the rectangular headlight , I believe it is also the case with the 150cc
I have a Classic VXL 150 (a model superior to Primavera). High recommended for urban purposes! Easy ride, fast enough in traffic and beautiful!
Thanks for sharing your experiences! I hope to make some fun riding videos in the next year. Feel free to subscribe!
Thank you for explanation. I have the 150 sprint. I wish they made the sprint in a 300. I love the sprint style but I'd like the 300 power. Oh well first world problem.
Haha! Yeah, I love style of the Primavera too. The issue is going to be that the powertrain and liquid cooling and everything involved with the 300cc is physically too large to fit into the Primavera. It would be cool to see more power added, but I just don't think there's a market for that. At some point, people want more power to do more things, and a little bit larger scooter also helps with that. Thanks for watching!!
Hi Peter, thanks for your explanation, greetings from Jakarta. In Indonesia both Primavera and Sprint models have 150cc. While GTS is offered with 150 and 300 cc. Btw, here we also have the smallest body frame models, namely Vespa LX and S. Both LX and S have 125 cc, being the smallest engine (we dont hv the 50cc).
Nice. Thanks for sharing!
@@PeterLoweOne You're welcome.
How much is the GTS 150 in Indonesia
GTS Classic is around USD 5200 and GTS Super Sports is around USD 5600 in Jakarta, in some other cities the price is little bit more expensive
Same with the Philippines,
Planning to get the s125 but most of the advice should go with at least 150cc.
I live in Albania, south europe. I am big Vespa fun and I need a vespa to use for both city and highway. To travel 300km once in two months. Will the 150cc be good for me or i need 300cc?
Hi thanks for the video. I would like to know what is the difference in between the Vespa 300 gts classic, super sport, hpe 2, and the tech version? I like the Vespa scooters but all of the different options are confusing? I am wondering if it’s worth the extra cost?
This video may get you started in finding what you're looking for. czcams.com/video/QCrV4Wm9880/video.html
Hi, what's the most reliable Vespa I can buy? Thanks.
Fantastic now I know what Vespa I’m getting 👍
Thanks for watching!
Do u guys how much for 50cc, 150cc, 300cc ? Thank you
Can you please have look at gts 125cc
NO mention of USB sockets fitted as standard. A socket was clearly visible, in shot, in the GTS 300 'glove box' compartment.
You're not going to believe this, but that's not the only thing that I didn't mention! 🤣
Wish to drive one of those🫵🏾🥺
How.much.does one cost a 50 cc model?? Where can I buy it
But it’s a good video. This guy knows his stuff
A PERFECT video to help with a decision.
I’m sorry I’m on the west coast so can’t give you my business.
But if I may ask, would I notice a big difference between a 2007 GT200 and a new(ish) 150? Would the new technology make them compreble?
So I haven't driven the GT200, the biggest benefit of the 300 is just that larger size... the 150 still has the compact size. In my mind a long trip would be more enjoyable on the larger frame, but I'd love the 150 for my garage!! It would have all the pep that I need for what I would want from a Vespa. I think if you are using your 200 for highway usage, you'd probably enjoy the 300 better. Moving to the 150 is still a big jump down when you think of it in percentages.
I'd always choose windscreens, simply to stop your arms aching when on long journeys. People often don't realise the difference it makes.
I think for me, it depends on the speed. On a 50cc I don't think I would get one. I like the open air. At speed, it would also depend on how far I plan to travel. Of course, my dream garage includes a specific Kawasaki motorcycle and a Vespa scooter as well! 🙂
If I’m traveling over 60mph the screen is invaluable it save my hands getting freezing and deflects the wind off my face
@@steveo726 Yeah, that's a great point!
@@steveo726 and in Europe, it stops the rain stinging your face - even at 30
Nobody drives Vespas at 60 mph. Those are (sub-)urban scooters,50 max.
PRIMAVERA 50 vs. PRIMAVERA S 50. What is the the difference and what stands the S for?
I seem to have a problem finding out which ones are large frame and which ones are small frame? Thanks for the video.
Vespa sprint and primavera are small frame and gts is large frame
@@180fxr thanks
the width of the legshield makes it obvious when you see you will know .
Is there any difference in riding characteristics between sprint and primavera (150cc version)?
Not to me. They really are just trim differences.
Hi Peter. Do you know if it's possible to put a sidecar on a vespa and if so how many CC would it need?
I mean... Anything is possible... Not everything that can be done should be done though.
I suppose. I saw them all over Rome but I have no idea why nobody is importing them to USA/Canada. @@PeterLoweOne
@@PHOTOCONVENTION My guess is there just isn't the business case for them here.
you are really doing a great job.. triple clap!
Thanks for the kind words. I appreciate it!
Do any of them have a seat height (and width) that would allow someone who is 5'2" to flat foot the bike at a stop light without coming off the seat?
I would consider a rebel 1100 dct with more power and very low seat height if i don't feel like working the clutch.
I have the same question
Great video. I guess answering the phone might be difficult for shorter people though.
Answering the phone? A bluetooth adapter in the helmet should solve any phone answering issues that most people would have.
thank you for a very in depth look which was very informative and interesting. I have one simple question are they to stroke or four stroke. Kind regards and thank you Mike Western from Suffolk in England
Great question! They're all 4 stroke now. (at least here in Canada)
I would look at where you are going and the road rules in some places they will book you (police) if you’re on the highway doing 20 km under the speed limit so 110 km. I would suggest go an do a scooter ride course like the motorcycle ride course but for scooters this will give you the ability to ride 300-550cc scooters
Then try as many scooters as you can and choose.
David Jones, I'm looking to getting a scooter for the first time. I'm 70yrs old and don't want to spend to much money. I'm 6'2" and 200 lbs. I like to have 65 mph, fuel injection. Do you have a suggestion?
Hi David, at 6'2 and 200lbs, you're going to struggle to reach 65 mph on a 150 cc Vespa or Piaggio. So I would step up from that to the Vespa GTS 300 or the Piaggio BV400. Those will reliably go highway speeds with you, and even with a passenger. Both of those bikes are on this channel, here's one video that I did comparing the two of them, but there are more. czcams.com/video/AzB-Rxc5pFw/video.html
I am 78 years old, am 6’ and weigh 224.0 lbs. I just bought a 2007 LX with about 3,230 miles. I drive it in town and the foothills surrounding Salt Lake City. And I’ve driven it on dirt roads near the Provo River. I had a new Vespa 300cc back in 1975 and drove it on the interstate and anywhere I would have driven a car. I drove then as I do now: only in dry weather conditions. I am glad I bought the 2007! The 150cc is perfect for in town driving. Test driving the 300cc scared the beejesses out of me‼️ The new fuel injection system gives you radical power from stop to 60 mph. But, once I I become Re accustomed to riding my 150cc, I may buy a new 300cc or 150cc when I’m 79 or 80 years old. Health matters and insurance costs may tell the final story. I think that being physically fit, active and in good health are also important factors when considering the purchase of and day to day riding of any Vespa! Good luck 🍀
I would like to ask what is the top speed of the 50 cc asa standard scooter ,also can you tell me how much extra speed can you reliably get after the first service and the new speed restrictor fitted that i have heard you can get to make it just a bit faster,I am75 years old and wanted to eb able to take fun rides and shopping trips at something a bit faster than 28 mph ,which does seem rather slow,thanks for video,
I'm not the best source of information on modifying things to get more speed. For me, I'd rather buy the 150cc to get more speed than modify the 50cc and risk reliability issues. There are probably better sources for what can be done with modifications than me. Sorry about that.
I think you would be wasting time and money trying to modify a 50cc. Spend the extra $800 a 150cc. You'll pend way more than that moding a 50cc and never get as much power as 150.
@@nathantherealtorsonoma Yeah, a lot of people like to modify the 50cc class just to see what they can get out of them, but if you just want speed, and not the work and expense of getting that speed, the 150 is the right answer.
To modify your 50 c.c. Vespa for faster speed, you need to change to lighter beads on variator, also cut the "funnel" off inside your tailpipe to allow better airflow.
Look for CZcamsr "Robot" of "Motorsport Vespa" on CZcams for "To mod Vespa 50" for details. Vespa 50 can go nearly 50 mph after mod.
I've had the Primavera 50 Touring for about 10 months. I'm 60, about 6'1" 240lbs. My top speed on flat surface is around 35mph, slight downhill 40, 45mph around 12° downhill. Uphill 12° only gets to 30mph.
The Sprint has an hexagonal headlight and the red lighting in the dash. The Primavera has blue lighting.
Hexagonal is exactly the word that I was trying to come up with! Haha! Thanks for bailing me out and saving me from re-shooting that shot!
A nice tuned exhaust and lighter rollers make most 4 stroke scoots like a jack rabbit up hills. Mine beat cars at the light, and there still road legal.
I'm 260 lbs and will be doing just city riding. Is a 50cc too small? Great video, I learned a lot.
I wouldn't say that it's too small. 50cc models are capable of taking two people, so two average sized people would outweigh you. Having said that, you'll probably prefer the performance of the 150. You'll probably want a bit more power than a 50cc
I was 340 when i was able to drive my Honda metro daily, never had any issues.
Also consider most places a 50 doesn't need a cycle license.
Get the GTS 300 if you want convenient , fun, alternate transportation, the ability and performance to merge and keep up with the fastest city traffic in any city, also freeway capable for short trips or longer ones in a pinch.
Electric scooters and motorcycles are even worse than electric cars for those that value time and money or work for a living
Vespa is vespa love it ❤❤❤🇵🇰
Anyone that can help me chose between Vespa Sprint 50 with some mods for a stronger ignition, or a standard Peugeot Django 50 cc with no modifications ?
I might add a new cylinder over time if easy to do on these, but some people warn me that new modern-day scooters need computer software to tune them...
I am not sure that is true..
... but how to choose between these models really? quality, functions, strength uphill, comfort etc? what to consider between them?
thanks!
Why not just get the 150? If you need to take the class and get your m licenses
@@e-guy8259 only because the MC card here in Sweden with the ice risk training and all is 3300 euro now
hello brother i found something called bmx cub can you help us to know how real good they are 🙏🙏
I never knew there were vespa sellers next to me. I.E New Brunswick
is there a dealer to buy them in the USA?
Depends on where you live, but your best bet is to go to the vespa site and search for your zip
The front tire on the sprint is spinning the wrong way around
Can you tell me where i can buy this ?
These are for sale in Fredericton New Brunswick. You could try Google searching for a Vespa dealer near you.
Let's see the hill climbing abilities
Actually, that's where these are strong. Overall top speed and horsepower? Not the strong point of these, but torque is a key piece to these engines.
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Are these meant for 250 lbs people? Or
Would it be a struggle on the engine.
They can carry two people, so I don't see it being an issue with one larger person. Power to weight ratio is a significant factor on the 50cc models though. If I were you, I'd consider the 150 and about.
Price ❓️
Do I need a license for the 50 cc?
It depends on where you live. Here in New Brunswick, you can drive it with a regular car license if you're over 16 and if you're 14, you can do a test and get licensed for it.
Somebody knows how much the sprint 50cc cost?
Up to date pricing can be found here. powersports.wheelsanddeals.ca
@@PeterLoweOne Thanks!
What is the best Vespa model for a 250 lb person
I'd go with the 300. You could get a 150, but the suspension won't have as much travel with your weight, and I'd stay away from the 50cc as it will not be very quick. I'm about 175 and thats probably the max weight I'd recommend for a 50cc and even then, you need to be realistic about the performance at my weight.
5:12 I think the front tire of Sprint has wrong direction of rotation.
Nope. Check out pictures of other motorcycles online. You'll see that it's almost counter intuitive.
Hi
First!!
octagon is 8 sides :-)
Yeah. My grade 1 math was a long time ago... It took my brain a long time to search back that far!
Why Not mention the MSRP?
MSRP can change sometimes. These videos stay online forever. I used to run another MUCH bigger channel, and I've found it's easier to not mention it than to face the comments section if there was a change. Up to date pricing can always be found using the link in the description of this video, which will take you to Jim Gilbert's PowerSports website.
my wife has a 50 primavera .one year old when she got it 58 miles on clock £3000 . £4000 new .
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They are not Vespa's. The last vespa's were P ranges. These are some modern crap.
Enligten me please. Why would one want a 50cc?
Lots of reasons, but the most popular reason here is because of licensing requirements. Adults can drive the 50cc with just a car license, and kids as young as 14 can drive them instead of waiting until they turn 16.
Lighter weight,need only for very short rides on busy streets cost effectiveness small frame cuteness
I’m some states don’t even need insurance,registration, or license
Very popular with those that have say…multiple DUIs
my wife 72 in june this year . the 50 is nice and light and with a POLINI ecu will do a nice amount of speed as standard in the u k are a danger at 30 m p h .
What the hell is a km
The measurement that virtually the entire world uses.
He said nothing of cost or gas mileage.
The prices can always be found in the link in the description. I never quote prices in my videos because they can change over time, but up to date pricing can be found using that link. As far as fuel mileage, Piaggio doesn't list fuel mileage for these scooters, it can really vary based on the size of the rider and the type of riding that you do. The best place to get real world information on fuel mileage is to check with owners forums and see what various people are getting in their environments.
50/60km per liter on the normal ones
to. expensive pricing them selves out of the market
I wish he’d use MPH rather than kilometers. I understand it’s a foreign vehicle but this is New Jersey, not Rome.
I film in Canada. So this isn't New Jersey, or Rome. 😉
And most of the world uses kilometers…
You should get a real Vespa mate far better quality no Chinese motor and way more valuable lol I converted my 64 GS 160 Real Vespa to electric. 72v 10kw in hub wheel motor, 520 nm of torque (45 times the top of the line Chinese Vespa clone has) 0-100kph in 2 seconds, and cost me only 2100 USD to build the conversion including the 80 ah 72v long range LiFePo4 battery that gives me 780 km's range per charge and the speed charger 10 a unit that charges from 15% to 85% in 12-24 minutes yeah anyone buying these instead of real ones is fooling themselves I'd leave the "Vespa" 500 in the dust where it belongs on my 64 Real Vespa GS lol if it has plastic on it then it is simply NOT a real VESPA
that side reflectors are sooooo horrible ugly
You confused me more than I was before I watched the video. Jumping back and forth to much.
The headlight shape on the 150cc is an OBLOID
Haha! I think the word I was trying to come up with was Trapezoidal!
I owned a Vespa 200cc or maybe it was a 250cc not sure. A 2 stroke back in 1978 / 79. I somehow think the scooters are smaller now? The one I had came with a brake pedal on the floor. At least that is how I remember it. Are these vehicles smaller now. Less space between the seat and front? Not sure