All three of you are wrong. The rails were added first and foremost to prevent the ball from flying past the flipper, rebounding off the apron and returning to play - particularly on a 1985 onwards game. The centre post between the flippers (when used) was a concession made by its designer to employ when his design created an abundance of balls being lost between the flippers, during its design phase - primarily as a consequence of the geometry further up the play field. Bang back prevention is done by setting the plumb bob correctly, having the coin door slam switch operating and set correctly. Fun fact as I leave you all, Data East actually celebrated a successful bang back by providing the player with a monetary score and acknowledge via the DMD. Thank you and goodnight.
This is all good and well...but most of the time the ball has more speed and will already be gone before you can react like this. In real life this only works like less than 10% of the time imo
I saw someone casually pulling something like this off in a stream (with time mark): czcams.com/video/oLPGcSc8kaY/video.html I was mind blown when I saw this.
@@MidOhioPinball I play a lot of pinball on my PS5 (Pinball FX3) and watch a lot of pinball documentaries and pro tips to try and better my skills. I also watch a lot of pinball tournaments and World Championship matches online. But I did' nt play real pinball since my childhood/teens...somewhere in the nineties
Can you imagine watching a clip, of real life no less, and saying this doesn't happen in real life? Holy shit dude, go touch some grass lol I hate that saying but yikes
Would not recommend. Most machines it won't work on and you're gonna hurt your hands and the game eventually. Death saving the right lane is a technique that is also banned in tournament but does work on most Sterns.
How is it forbidden? For just funsies play, anything that doesn't register a tilt (this is the most dangerous since it could be a Slam Tilt ending your game and erasing all your credits) is fair game. I've done this ever since I realized that the technique I used in Pinball Fantasies in 1993 would also work in real life. saved many a ball on Star Trek: The Next Generation and attack From Mars this way. But also lost a few credits. So I only did it on my last credit, and only if I had a game worth extending going, or it was my last ball.
in tournement play its not allowed, thats why its forbidden. Lazaruses on the other hand are allowed, since you dont bang the machine and physically move the machine ( the ball goes between the flippers hits a side/bottom and pops up back above the flippers). For casual play you can do it, but people wont like it
This was part of the play when i grew up, they even adjusted the pinball machines with sensors, so if you did it wrong or to much force it said;" TILT ", and the game shutdown until the ball fell down. You had to learn the "DIM MAK" from Bloodsport to get a second chance. czcams.com/video/Ml826RbcAhs/video.html
It's considered forbidden because it will get you automatically disqualified in tournament play. Or tossed out of an arcade if the proprietor catches you! 🤣
Pinball has an inherent 'legal' banging of the machine to help with the game that's why it has a "TILT" error when you shake the machine too much..... The picking up of the ball.... ok that maybe 'cheating' because usually pinball machines have a glass cover on the playing field.
The machine needs to move enough for the tilt bob to contact the ring. If you deliver the energy with short impulse, the movement given to the bob is minimal.
@@FUGP72 Yeah, on a modern Stern with a three warnings in hand you'll usually only get a double danger, but you do then need to be very, very gentle. Also depends heavily on the floor type, whether there's space around the machine, rubber foot cups, etc, etc.
YET ANOTHER CASE OF DIRTY PINNING..... I DONT CARE HOW BRUTAL THE OUTLANES ARE YOU DONT DIRTY PIN YA HEAR MEH YOU ADAPT AND SRUVIVE. In pinball republic Officer Tilt WILL ARREST you into prison for this kind of pinning
So that's why many tables started adding metal rails underneath flippers
Exactly.
That and it also reduces stress on the flippers when the ball hits it in its resting position.
All three of you are wrong. The rails were added first and foremost to prevent the ball from flying past the flipper, rebounding off the apron and returning to play - particularly on a 1985 onwards game. The centre post between the flippers (when used) was a concession made by its designer to employ when his design created an abundance of balls being lost between the flippers, during its design phase - primarily as a consequence of the geometry further up the play field. Bang back prevention is done by setting the plumb bob correctly, having the coin door slam switch operating and set correctly. Fun fact as I leave you all, Data East actually celebrated a successful bang back by providing the player with a monetary score and acknowledge via the DMD. Thank you and goodnight.
Cool ! I never knwe why this little , flat bend wires are there. Thank you !
Correct. Fake.
Damn if only I knew this a few days ago I was playing a Adams Family and it has some toxic outlanes
mamushka 😊
This is all good and well...but most of the time the ball has more speed and will already be gone before you can react like this. In real life this only works like less than 10% of the time imo
I saw someone casually pulling something like this off in a stream (with time mark): czcams.com/video/oLPGcSc8kaY/video.html
I was mind blown when I saw this.
You must not play a lot of pinball.
@@MidOhioPinball I play a lot of pinball on my PS5 (Pinball FX3) and watch a lot of pinball documentaries and pro tips to try and better my skills. I also watch a lot of pinball tournaments and World Championship matches online. But I did' nt play real pinball since my childhood/teens...somewhere in the nineties
Can you imagine watching a clip, of real life no less, and saying this doesn't happen in real life? Holy shit dude, go touch some grass lol I hate that saying but yikes
@@myoak108 Bro, they're rolling the ball at a way slower speed than what it would have if it hits a bumper.
I only nudged the machine if the ball got stuck in a corner.
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Saw this for the first time on a stranger things 1B+ gameplay. So dope
i shattered a pinball glass just like that in a café. it was embarrassing, glorious, and scary. The owner was not on santa good list...
Nice. You break the guy's table and act like he the one that did something wrong smh
The tilt in the machines must not had worked.
Wow, yes, nice trick!
that's how I have save my balls many times. . (reason why some games have a metal bar behind the flippers to prevent this.
How to slam tilt.
Woooooow.... Woooooow....
Wow
Wow indeed :)
Would not recommend. Most machines it won't work on and you're gonna hurt your hands and the game eventually. Death saving the right lane is a technique that is also banned in tournament but does work on most Sterns.
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Great technique when playing with some buddies. Disqualifying technique in any tournament.
This worked on Xenon.
WOW
The tilt mechanism is meant to stop this.
Time for some new tilt switches
How is it forbidden? For just funsies play, anything that doesn't register a tilt (this is the most dangerous since it could be a Slam Tilt ending your game and erasing all your credits) is fair game. I've done this ever since I realized that the technique I used in Pinball Fantasies in 1993 would also work in real life. saved many a ball on Star Trek: The Next Generation and attack From Mars this way. But also lost a few credits. So I only did it on my last credit, and only if I had a game worth extending going, or it was my last ball.
Lol, i forgot you could do it in Pinball Fantasies, but they are Swedish, it was part of the play when i grew up.
in tournement play its not allowed, thats why its forbidden.
Lazaruses on the other hand are allowed, since you dont bang the machine and physically move the machine ( the ball goes between the flippers hits a side/bottom and pops up back above the flippers).
For casual play you can do it, but people wont like it
@@skeven0 I don't know anyone that would care in casual play.
WAAUUUUW!
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why not use a super magnet at that point
I think you could place a rare earth magnet on the glass and play forever :P
Only forbidden in tournaments!
you get kicked out of the pinball hall real fast doing this, not as fast as a death save. abuse your own machines. Not routed ones
wow
This was part of the play when i grew up, they even adjusted the pinball machines with sensors, so if you did it wrong or to much force it said;" TILT ", and the game shutdown until the ball fell down. You had to learn the "DIM MAK" from Bloodsport to get a second chance. czcams.com/video/Ml826RbcAhs/video.html
It's called Slam Tilt All machines have this There is a sensor on the coin door If it's hit too hard whole game reset The end
It's considered forbidden because it will get you automatically disqualified in tournament play. Or tossed out of an arcade if the proprietor catches you! 🤣
Tilt
😂
This is Rick Stetta, right? Is he playing again?
Yes, and no.
@@Paleroize Where and when did you record this then? Seems like a quite recent footage :)
is that allowed in tournaments or no
Not allowed normally.
@@Paleroize I dont even like nudging.
@@Urko2005 gotta embrace and integrate it into your play! Learn to love it 🔥
@@Urko2005I’m no expert, but the more I learn about pinball, nudging can be up to 50% of play by people who are really good at pinball. I had no idea!
@@robe4314 Yeah, fast outlanes are the most common reason good players are loosing the ball.
Pinball has an inherent 'legal' banging of the machine to help with the game that's why it has a "TILT" error when you shake the machine too much..... The picking up of the ball.... ok that maybe 'cheating' because usually pinball machines have a glass cover on the playing field.
Well picking up the ball isn't necessarily against the rules... it's just really hard with the glass on there.
TILT
Doesnt this cause a tilt fault?
The machine needs to move enough for the tilt bob to contact the ring. If you deliver the energy with short impulse, the movement given to the bob is minimal.
Looks like cheating to me.
would have been interesting if the damn video actually showed what was happening.
After 3 times, with help from comments, I got it...
This video has better angles of what's happening: czcams.com/video/KB8Xp4PMvbQ/video.htmlsi=Xd2hDlVwS_GL_P_T
I find this much easier to pull off: czcams.com/video/CZljaPDYpXs/video.htmlsi=8JV2XQSeEC4Z1e0X
Still not legal in a comp though.
@@AndrewClark-ajfc That way is much riskier for a tilt. Although less risky for a Slam Tilt.
@@FUGP72 Yeah, on a modern Stern with a three warnings in hand you'll usually only get a double danger, but you do then need to be very, very gentle. Also depends heavily on the floor type, whether there's space around the machine, rubber foot cups, etc, etc.
YET ANOTHER CASE OF DIRTY PINNING..... I DONT CARE HOW BRUTAL THE OUTLANES ARE YOU DONT DIRTY PIN YA HEAR MEH YOU ADAPT AND SRUVIVE. In pinball republic Officer Tilt WILL ARREST you into prison for this kind of pinning
Horrible camera angle
Gaaaaaaaeeeeeyyyyyyyy
this is cheating to be honest, and the person should be banned to play pinball unless he owns that pinball table or the place specifically allow this.
Waaaah 😂
When you've got an open case anything is possible this is stupid😊
So are you😆
What a worthless comment?
Did you miss he only did it to show the trick twice?
Thats not skill & not good for the machine either.
i mean why even play the game if youre just gonna fucking cheat?