Hot Bluing My Persian Fighter Blade (Something Bad Happened)
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 25. 05. 2021
- Kyle is hot gun bluing his knife blade in this video. We first need to start out with hand sanding everything to 3,000 grit! Once Kyle gets everything ready for the bluing process, he has his family help him out! With his mom manning (or should I say momming Haha) the cleaner, and dad manning the salts, Kyle instructs them not to let any of it get too hot or the whole thing could be ruined! After bluing the blade, Kyle takes a close look and finds something really bad!
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You said this was the largest "anything" you've ever blued. What about your swords? They seem alot bigger.
Good question
They werenât hot blued they were ferric chloride and coffee etched
Keep Forging On my friend
Dad
That blade turned out dead sexy!
I'd like to see your take on an axe/hatchet.
I agree! A Skeggox would be awesome.
@@DJTheMetalheadMercenary I would actually like to see him make a Type L Dane Axe in all honesty.
@@KageStelhman That would be sick too hellyeah.
Or like a bronze-age/early iron age inspired zoomorphic one
Heâs a knife maker not black smith
What about the last rinse before the salt being a rinse in boiling distilled water. Zero chance of unwanted minerals remaining and the water would evaporate fast for an even, dry surface for the molten jacuzzi. â
Exactly what I was thinking. Tap water tends to have minerals in it, which seem to bother the bluing salts from doing their thing.
I've seen a pale white fog on polished parts washed in 99% pure isopropyl alcohol ,and acetone. I remove it with a microfiber cloth that's freshly washed by gloved hands in hot water with Dawn dishsoap and hung to dry. Paper towels leave scratches. â
Iâm no expert, but tap water does indeed contain a number of minerals.
Itâs also not something you can control, and for a critical step such as this, you need all the control you can get.
The fork scraping on the cleaning bath sent chills up my spine.
Oh my teeth
After the little disappointment at the end all I can offer you is,â If at first you donât succeed try, try again â. Iâm sure youâll fix the problem some how. Good on you Mum for lending a helping hand, regards from Down Under.
Well live to fight another day. After your commentary on it needing to be boiling and how to adjust was very surprised to see you put it in anyway with it not having the boiling action to keep everything all mixing around evenly. Looked good from first views so can't wait to see you get it corrected and looking stunning.
Y'know, if it's really ruined, and you don't want it, I'll take it off your hands. Just let me know.
I cannot wait to see this finished blade!đ
it's pretty cool being able to follow you with these videos. one of the best bladesmiths in the world and we get to watch. thanks, Royers.
Thatâs heart breaking to see you so discouraged... keep up the good work! You are so talented. Your videos are enjoyable even in the failures. We all understand this moment.
Let's be honest, when has the bluing been perfect the first time? :P You got it, it will look amazing when it's done.
Aww man what a kick in the guts not having the blueing go right. I feel for ya man.
Hot bluing needs to be done at boiling temps. It needs to be boiling at 282 for 10 minutes, then drop it. Let it reach the desired color or temp, pull it out and rinse in cold water. Inspect. If it's not the color you want, back in the salt tank. If you like it, put in in very hot water, not boiling, to heat it back up. 30 seconds in the hot water tank, pull it out and while hot, place it in some kind of oil to neutralize the salts. Pull it out (wipe on rig oil if you have it) wrap in newspaper or paper towels. The bluing will set and develop over the next 24 hours.
We blue guns all the time.
This was one of the most dramatic endings in a YT video. I took my hat off to honor those we lost.
Think of the thousands of grits.
But like a phoenix the blade will rise again đ„
Hey thanks Sheriff
Dad
@@KyleRoyerKnives yeehaw, Dad
Sheriff
Polish it off and try again. Looks freaking awesome BTW!
Regardless it's a beautiful design, and I'm super excited to see it finished.
Oh man, what a cliffhanger. I sure hope you don't have to strip the blueing off and start the finish over. đ€ fingers crossed.
Thanks Royer team for another fine video.
You are the MASTER of knife making!!!
Always something to learn!!! Been bluing and etching for years and sometimes it just turns into a learning experience!!!
Well said Hannah
Chao
Dad
Even his mess ups look beautiful lol
O man the work behind this knife is unbelivable and i really dont understand who can dislike this work, i think that they are only jealous, kyle for me is one of the best and meticulous knife builder on youtube. Thanks for your tutorials đ
Hey thanks Kristian
Feeling the love my friend
Dad
extraordinary passion as reflected in the presentations of the details. thumb up!
I adore the fact that your mom helped.
Invaluable resource and support
Cheers to all the moms in the background
Dad
Absolutely beautiful work is the handle fitting supposed to mimic a small amount of shrinkage in the timber
Everything I have blued always has a little brown oxide rub off when dried with a paper towel. I have only ever used home-brew salts though. Maybe boiling the blade in water right after it comes out of the salt tank will help complete the conversion of red iron oxides into black oxides?
Hey check out Brownellâs instructions on hot bluing system. We learn stuff from it continually. đđ»âïžđ„âïž
Dad
Shurap's tea breaks are cooler than your coffee breaks! Just messing. This knife is incredible.
Ohhhhh that was gut wrenching đ« as a builder I know that feeling right before doing something risky and the hope you have that it turns out, most of the time it does but not every time, there is an art in fixing mistakes as Iâm sure your well versed and it WILL turn out amazing, thanks for sharing Kyle (Josh) great videos as always đđŒ
Totally awesome
Honestly man your stuff is the best I have seen.... museum quality stuff.... đ
fantastic :) you do amazing work!
Hey thanks d c
Kyle
I wish parents helped me with my projects...
I can't even get dad to put tools back where they belong when he borrows them xD
You'll get it man! You always do :) it's a masterpiece of a blade. I am in love with this knife so far
please make video about making Shamshir
You have the golden hands Kyle, love your videos!
Thanks Benjamin
Kyle
So cool that your mom helps out! as always... such an amazing job, looks amazing! God bless
Ghat damascus came up beautiful.
Good job Beautiful design and nice finish đȘ
Great information in this vid đ„
So sad the bluing failed
Your folks are awesome, it's looking real good brotherđâ
đđ»âïžđ„âïžThanks Michael
Dad
Please make a "Museum Finish" how to video! I've looked for one on youtube and couldn't find one! Thank you for all of your videos!
Hey good to have you here Noah
Dad
Keep your head up.Your work is always stunning in the end. You are a true artist and master at your craft. Takes time,love and passion. I always look forward to your videos. Make me laugh at times and jaw drop on what you end up creating.
Hey thanks David
Glad youâre here hanging out with us all
Cheers my friend
Dad
A beauty of its own
Hey thanks âą_
Cheers
Dad
I love following u sir! U donât treat us, 9ur viewers), like dummies or that we are worthless. Thanx âŠhi mom!
Hey thanks Mike
You guys are awesome
We are all at different places and we need people to help us along in our journey. Likewise the same we need to make sure we bring others along with us as we go
Cheers my friend
Dad
@kyleroyerknives have you ever thought of doing color case hardening on any of your blades itâs very beautiful.
Havenât thought of coloring but we have a case hardening vid
Cheers
Dad
Ah jeez, Kyle. I could feel your pain through the video. I have no doubt whatsoever that a master of your skill will recover this fully. Chin up!
Hey thanks my friend
Team Royer
I would love to see the dark saber from Star Wars made this way. Keep up the great work! :D
Hey thanks Yada
Kyle
Great vid Royer family! Have you ever tried making a folding knife? It would be very cool to see one made in your style. Keep up the great work!
Kyle had made a few back in the day. You can check them out by going to www.kyleroyerknives.com and scroll down to OTHER, that will take you to his folder gallery. -Josh Royer
Have you ever considered gun bluing and then regrinding the bevels to have a like... Duo tone? Maybe even a soft fade from steel gray to the black? Might look neat. Would be interesting to see a rough test piece of that. If you're interested.
Bad day! never seen that before.
as a bladesmith myself I feel that, Kyle makes the sort of quality that I aspire to, I am a long way from this skill level still but it is definitely a goal to shoot for
Hey thanks my friend
Feeling the love
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When you email us you can get a free demo vid.
Keep Forging On
Dad
Would love to purchase a fighter from you Kyle please let me know how to make this happen!!! THANKYOU
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GREETINGS FROM NIXA
Hey neighbor
I had to go to Nixa hardware this morning
Dad
Kyle is really funny! Got the entire family working! Brother is the one with the camera lol so ya entire house is at work
Freaking WOW. This is why (in my opinion) no handmade knife is too expensive. Great job as always
Hey thanks Rusty
Kyle
Perfct my brotherđ
I have been very interested in finding a way to blacken surgical stainless steel wire, for chainmail. Would this process work for that?
Bluing that would be difficult and the finish would not be durable. A somewhat similar process, salt bath nitride, is used on stainless parts to great effect. Also makes the surface very hard and slick, which is great for mail.
@@sanguinemoon9201 Thanks man ive been struggling to find a solution for that ill give it a try.
Thereâs probably a better process
Keep digging my friend
Dad
Kyles Mom
Has got it goin' on!
You could make a video on making Damascus Beskar from The Mandalorian. Would be fun.
Ouch!
ĐĐ°Đș ĐČŃДгЎа,super, super, super cool !!!đ„đ„đ„đđđ
Cheers from the Ozarks my friend
Dad
Why did you put it in, if the solution wasn't boiling? I know it will be perfect when you are done, but now I have to wait to see it.
Rust will show up if Kyle keeps it wet for too long. The bluing salts will amplify the salty by a lot! For Kyle to wait 4 more minutes while the salts boil with water on the blade would be bad. He would have to go back to hand sanding it then buff it again. That took 8 hours last time. -Josh Royer
What Bluing salts do you use?
Brownell hot bluing system
Hi kyle. I'm interested if you found why thé blueing salt did not work 'cause i' m trying to parkerise some blade and i found that it does not sty on the blade if i'm not hot enough (140 C)
Température makes no sensé Chemicaly speaking but...
I would have thought the same thing till I got a small hot tub. The Ph and alkalinity changes when temperature goes up
Pretty cool stuff. And thatâs just tap water. đđ»âïžđ„âïž
Dad
Copy copy my friend
Dad
Thatâs a real kick in the wrinkle beans. Looking forward to seeing it remedied.
Can you make an Italian stiletto switchblade?
Fineđ
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We know you'll find a way dude. And gosh, that handsanding job made my pants tight. Good luck!
Dam dude! You're one hell of a craftsman and an artist!....you should start a school and show other people how to do this stuff!...I'm trying to teach myself this stuff I hope I'm as good as you one day!đ
Hey thanks Marcos
We are teaching my friend
We have online courses for beginners,intermediate, and pros. Check out learnknifemaking.com
Glad youâre here Marcos
Dad
Well, I guess we can't expect things to go smoothly ALL the time. But I'll bet it's going to be amazing when you fix it.
oh man I could really feel your pain at the end there! You'll get it next time bud. Your signature look will shine through in the end I'm sure!
Hey thanks Earnest
You just some of the pain out of it
Dad
@@KyleRoyerKnives on the edge of my seat as always can't wait to see finished eye candy
Salt bath nitride is what the gun industries use to make a jet black look. It is similar to bluing. Also makes the surface super hard so may not be the best for the initial sharpening.
I don't think you can get to a mirror finish that way.
That is a real gorgeous knife. Do you have any videos of you creating that masterpiece ! I enjoy every video you've made. I've watched them multiple times. Thanks . Oh and fantastic videoing and editing.
Hey thanks Gary
Sorry, Josh got caught up with another project
Dad
I watched your first video 11 years ago. I have been bladesmithing ever since. I was sad when you left for a while, I don't know what happened. I guess you were sick or something. Anyway, good see you back at it, or still at it
Hey glad youâre here hanging out with us my friend
Merry Christmas
Dad
So... buff it shiny once more and try again? Still hopeful... You are the master Kyle. Stay positive. You rule the steel, not the other way around!
I just think the imperfections gives it more character as if it's battleworn or very old
Woah....
aww noooo!!!! is it ruined?! hope you can fix it...
We are going to getâr done
Team Royer
My back already hurts by just watching all that hand sanding. đ
Copy copy my friend
Dad
Mamma is cooking blades now đđ
Copy copy
Who picks your music, it is always awesome!
Josh does all of the videography. Heâs crushing it. Glad youâre here hanging out with us
Like and share
Cheers
Dad
Wow
Man I missed you!
Hey thanks my friend
Glad youâre here hanging out with us
Dad
Time to return to hand sanding and buffing to get the oxide layer removed for the next attempt.
Not sure what kind of water set up you guys have , but Iâd suggest an in home Reverse Osmosis filtration system that would eliminate any residue left on the blade from rinsing. Love the channel!
Hey thanks C
Glad youâre here hanging out with us
Dad
Cant wait 2 see the redemption
I find your failures to be more informative than your successes. Not only do you humanize your skill/talent, but also inspire others to doggedly find solutions to the problems. It is uplifting to see masters have the same hiccups as the rest of us and to see you get back on that horse.
Hoo-rah
Copy copy my friend
Dad
Do you guys think you will be bringing this along to Bladeshow? I would love to see it in person next week!
Absolutely Shawn
We just got on the road
See you there
Dad
I know its outside of your area of expertise, but I bet you could make an AMAZING Damascus crescent wrench. They really are not that complicated, and knowing your style it would be more of an art piece than a tool. Give it a shot man!
Hey cool idea my friend
Dad
Why don't you rinse in distilled water instead of tap water ?
Awe man, thats a bit of a setback but I know you guys can make it look perfect. Ill be on the lookout for next attempt
Hey thanks thanks Ben. You just made the sting feel a little better
On the road to BLADE just now
Dad
@@KyleRoyerKnives safe travels see ya tomorrow!
can you somehow put different clips of the same piece of work together? sometimes it is difficult to find the following clips after intrigued by the first part
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Perhaps you should try using distilled or demineralized water to rinse the blade before bluing. The tap water I've had in your area was good, but had a mineral taste. That could be just enough contamination to hinder bluing. Btw the BBQ in your area is also very good, an unsung national treasure like yourself.
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Without watching the video Iâm guessing the temper got jacked up from the heating element?? I did that once when coffee darkening. The coffee was about 150 degrees but the bottom of the pan was like 5-600 đ€Šđ»ââïž
Ah... thatâs not so bad! I feel like thatâs par for the course when etching or bluing. You have to re-do it a few times to get it right đ
Can we get a video of the blade construction. Never seen nickle damascus made?? Please
Sorry my friend
Wasnât able to capture that
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Dad
It can be salvaged though, no? Just polish the blue away and dunk it again. Stuff happens, the key is to keep positive attitude :)
Man why didnât the GoT team contact Kyle to make proper valeryrian steel. I mean look at this blade đ
you should sell them mugs as merch
Got some ordered regal
We will let you all know when they come in. Chao
Dad
is the knife ruined or can you re blue it?
Working through that my friend
Dad