Thank you! I always imagined it was some kind of support for playing with your thumb, but I was never sure. This is the first time I get some kind of confirmation.
Originally invented to keep busy bass players on the rhythm hahaha. Naw, originally the Jazz Bass had "ashtray" pickup covers which go over the strings. The "tug bar" at the position shown on the HB bass would have been for your fingers to rest on, or for accurate reference of the players thumb over the next string pluck, while the "ashtray" over the neck pickup would have been where your palm would rest. Back when the Jazz Bass was new and slap bass was still in the incubator, the Bridge Cover "Ashtray" was actually stuffed with foam to deaden the sustain and get that radio sound everyone was after before 1962. DIY String Mutes, back when guitar amps were only sold at Appliance Shops.
Also known as a Finger Rest. From back in the Bad Old Days™, when the bassist was expected to use one of those big fat FELT picks and play up by the heel of the neck (resting your pinky on the finger rest).
For those of us who play bass with their thumb instead of their fingers, we immediately knew it was a FINGER rest for players like us. Yes, there are other basses with thumb rests for guys who play bass with their fingers but this is not one of them.
The "rest" is a finger grip for playing with your thumb, as you eventually deduced. It may seem ridiculous now because noone really plays like that. It originates from the very first electric bass design in the 50s. When Fender first introduced the electric bass, nobody was really sure what kind of reception it would get or how it would be played. Bass players up until then all played double basses. The idea was that it would be played in a similar way to how guitar players would play the bass lines when playing finger-style. Designers still include it on their bass guitars as a nod to the original design, even though the majority of players will likely never use it. And as you pointed out, it sort of gets in the way.
Always a fun time at HP42, thank you! Best to the family. I once shopped for a bass and could NOT afford it, so I borrow them instead. However, this is certainly my bracket.
Hatte wie immer Spaß beim schauen, sogar als Bassist 😀. Es wäre sehr spannend, den neuen Glockenklang Amp auf dem Kanal zu sehen. Dann klingt nicht "alles" nach Ampeg. Schönen Sonntag noch!
I got this bass for the looks (and the very decent bridge/tuners) -And like my other HBs it came with electrical issues; bad ground work/soldering, leading to a overly loud hum.
2:06 yes my bass had one of those rests too ? If you got time to lean you got time to clean, so I removed it because my fingers are lazy enough as is. I saw the timeline title bad slapping and I soo hoped for a typical Henning pun then the lovely Leslie to come running down from the control corner into the live room and slap the face off HP 😂. Alabama style, from way down south 👏🏽
This is a finger rest so you can play with your thumb. If you were around in the 50's and 60's you would know what it is...Nice looking bass but it does not sound like a Jazz bass.
the first fender basses had this finger rest. It was meant to curl your fingers behind it when you play with your thumb, Leo Fender envisioned the bass first as being played with the thumb. Off course through the years, electric bass playing evolved. Harley Benton did this since this bass was created in a vintage series
When I bought my bass I compared a P-type with a J-type, and most significant to me was the nutwidth. The J-type was much narrower on fret 1, and i preferred the P-type.
These are the best economy style basses on the market that doesn't give you an economy look. I personally could do no better to find another manufacturer who could offer a bass of this caliber at a lower price. The Roswell alnico pickups are a really impressive feature as nearly most other brands of economy jazz-style basses come with that cheap 'magnet bar' ceramic pickup that always sound cheap. And just for comparisson of how much money you could easy spend on basses that are far less in value and they charge over TWICE the price of what you are getting from this Harley Benton, look no further than the embarrassment of a bass: the G&L Placentia jazz bass which commands an MSRP of $499,.....and it's complete crap. Harley Benton is getting it done for the affordable bass market with plenty of respectable stock features.
I have one with an incorrect thumb rest as well, I was thinking it was in the wrong place .makes zero sense unless you play it left-handed, but then the strings are reversed... hell who knows!!..watching you trying to figure out that thumb rest is probably exactly how I looked before just deleting the thing.
Your comment is relevant about the thumb rest.. I also fool around with the bass once in a while and I just don't get it that they place the thumb rest there..
Just so you guys know, Paul McCartney plays primarily with his thumb and also uses a pick but never his fingers. Im not sure why some bass players think its a mystery that there are many of us that were inspired to play BY him, also play LIKE him. But even though my main bass is a Hofner 500/1 Beatle bass, no finger or thumb rest is necessary for us to play with strictly our thumbs or use a pick.
Still trying to figure out if I should get the PJ version of this or a Sire bass for 3x more. I'd probably swap out the pickups for some custom or at least higher end made models still would only be about half the price. Sire's have the active stuff which I may or may not use. Its just a studio bass so needs to sound good and be able to be intonated rather than reliable on the road.
In the early days of the Precision, it was an experiment, and everyone was trying to figure out how to use this new instrument. A lot of guitarists bought them so they could pick up bass gigs without having to lug an upright around. In the first few years, there were no “rock” bassists, no Marshall stacks or roundwound strings, and no-one was removing the bridge cover so they could pluck back closer to the bridge…
Just some guitar history nerdy stuff. In the early days of the jazz bass it was a finger rest for players using their thumb. Ie true vintage reissues will have that but odd on a modern instrument you'd expect it as a thumb rest to allow finger style playing. Given the block inlays not dots doesn't fit with the look possibly.
Yeah, Leo Fender thought that people would want to play a bass guitar with their thumb when he designed the Precision bass. Turns out, he was wrong, but they kept putting a "tugbar" (it should never have been called a "thumbrest") bellow the strings anyway. Now, it's considered part of the "traditional" aesthetic, so every manufacturer of Fender bass copies feels compelled to put one there, despite its limited utility.
Spiele seit 4o Jahren Bass und Gitarre , weiß aber immer noch nicht , was der thumbrest an dieser Stelle soll...spielt man den Bass von unten im Liegen?
Think I might go for the cheaper non gohto fitted version myself and determine if I needed to upgrade or not. But I'm a guitarist who only plays bass for recording
Yeah imo not worth if that's what you're gonna use it. I mean if the bridge too was gotoh then yeah I'd say it'd be worth... But just the tuners alone nah.
@@Xcorgi whatever works right, i have just never seen anybody play that way, most people play with the other fingers mainly and only uses the thumb sometimes
@@SpiritDK Then i guess you’ve never heard of Paul McCartney. Because he uses his thumb and pick only and has influenced thousands of people to play bass. He’s also one of the top 10 bass players on the planet.
Macca was still a schoolboy when the original Telecaster-shaped Precision bass came out in the early 50’s. Also, he didn’t switch over to bass until Stu Sutcliffe left, more than a decade after the 1951 introduction of the original P-bass.
@@Xcorgi i know so little about Paul McCarney I couldn't even tell you if you were pulling my leg, I was pretty sure he was a guitar player, personally, I'm more inspired by people like Leland Sklar, so though both legions in their own right there are miles apart, also, you seem a lot more knowledgeable in this area I'm still just trying to learn to play the dang thing, but ok yes there are some players that play with their thumb only, it's still only a small handful of the entire market, so it's kinda strange they on such a cheap model would spend money on a thing 1 in a million would use
I would have bought it immediately but this burgundy mist colour can't be found anywhere. Thomann doesn't list this colour anymore. Seems it won't be produced again. Why Thomann sent it to you now is anybody's guess. Shame on them.
All the slap bass players hate the finger rest but those of us who play only with our thumbs who love the deep rich 70’s and older tone of bass love it. If you love that shitty metallic piano wire 90’s and later sound and play with only your fingers, you’re gonna hate it. Theres nothing worse to a classic rock bass player than hearing that metallic piano wire slap bass solo shit go on for 30 minutes solid!
Hier schau dir mal den Bassmann an! Da kannst Du sehen zu welcher Spielart dieser Fingerbalken gehört. czcams.com/video/N9AJARHjhqw/video.html&ab_channel=ClassicHits%7BStereo%7D
warum muß ein Gitarrist einen Bass testen ??? Ein Bassist würde wissen, dass früher Thumbrests bei allen Fender Bässen unten waren und auf 60er Jahre Filmen sieht man, wie Bassisten mit absurden Techniken diese benutzen. Das nennt man vintage optik, obwohl natürlich die Tuner und der Jazz Bass-PU und -Hals nicht "Vintage" sind.
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That rest is old school for playing with just your thumb.
Leslie knows. Next time ask her first :)
Leslie knows all , asking her is cheating.
So you rest your middle and ring finger on it and just "pick" with your thumb?
@@D14V0R05you kinda claw it with your fingers and pluck with your thumb.
For those who don’t want to wait for the light bulb to go on, it’s a Tug Bar, for thumb-style!!! As seen on 50’s Fenders…
Thank you! I always imagined it was some kind of support for playing with your thumb, but I was never sure. This is the first time I get some kind of confirmation.
Originally invented to keep busy bass players on the rhythm hahaha.
Naw, originally the Jazz Bass had "ashtray" pickup covers which go over the strings. The "tug bar" at the position shown on the HB bass would have been for your fingers to rest on, or for accurate reference of the players thumb over the next string pluck, while the "ashtray" over the neck pickup would have been where your palm would rest.
Back when the Jazz Bass was new and slap bass was still in the incubator, the Bridge Cover "Ashtray" was actually stuffed with foam to deaden the sustain and get that radio sound everyone was after before 1962.
DIY String Mutes, back when guitar amps were only sold at Appliance Shops.
Also known as a Finger Rest. From back in the Bad Old Days™, when the bassist was expected to use one of those big fat FELT picks and play up by the heel of the neck (resting your pinky on the finger rest).
Mmm 'tug' bar... ;oP
For those of us who play bass with their thumb instead of their fingers, we immediately knew it was a FINGER rest for players like us. Yes, there are other basses with thumb rests for guys who play bass with their fingers but this is not one of them.
The "rest" is a finger grip for playing with your thumb, as you eventually deduced. It may seem ridiculous now because noone really plays like that.
It originates from the very first electric bass design in the 50s. When Fender first introduced the electric bass, nobody was really sure what kind of reception it would get or how it would be played. Bass players up until then all played double basses. The idea was that it would be played in a similar way to how guitar players would play the bass lines when playing finger-style.
Designers still include it on their bass guitars as a nod to the original design, even though the majority of players will likely never use it. And as you pointed out, it sort of gets in the way.
I play with a thumb :( Im not joking
Always a fun time at HP42, thank you! Best to the family. I once shopped for a bass and could NOT afford it, so I borrow them instead. However, this is certainly my bracket.
Hatte wie immer Spaß beim schauen, sogar als Bassist 😀. Es wäre sehr spannend, den neuen Glockenklang Amp auf dem Kanal zu sehen. Dann klingt nicht "alles" nach Ampeg. Schönen Sonntag noch!
ja, dann sollen die den mal schicken!
Ordered one for Christmas for my daughter
I think you dear Henning are freaking awesome! good relaxed reviews, and always has a positive vibe aswell good points😜💚👍🙏🙏🙏 The Bass is good too 😁
I got this bass for the looks (and the very decent bridge/tuners) -And like my other HBs it came with electrical issues; bad ground work/soldering, leading to a overly loud hum.
2:06 yes my bass had one of those rests too ? If you got time to lean you got time to clean, so I removed it because my fingers are lazy enough as is.
I saw the timeline title bad slapping and I soo hoped for a typical Henning pun then the lovely Leslie to come running down from the control corner into the live room and slap the face off HP 😂.
Alabama style, from way down south 👏🏽
The bar thingamagig is to rest your snacks on for quick bites,
This is a finger rest so you can play with your thumb. If you were around in the 50's and 60's you would know what it is...Nice looking bass but it does not sound like a Jazz bass.
looks ACE, would love to see Lefties (like me) have more color options on HB basses too please!
the first fender basses had this finger rest. It was meant to curl your fingers behind it when you play with your thumb, Leo Fender envisioned the bass first as being played with the thumb. Off course through the years, electric bass playing evolved. Harley Benton did this since this bass was created in a vintage series
4:20 When you play it left-handend it will work like you expect.
Once you know you see the necks are completely different.
When I bought my bass I compared a P-type with a J-type, and most significant to me was the nutwidth. The J-type was much narrower on fret 1, and i preferred the P-type.
Dude that color... OMG I want one...just not a bass..lol .do they offer that color on other guitars??
When a guitarist reviews a bass for some reason 🤣
I play more gigs as a bass player than as a guitar player
@@EytschPi42 Oh dear.....
@@EytschPi42 your right hand finger picking tells, you are experiance bass player
Fantastic review! Thanks for posting. 👍
These are the best economy style basses on the market that doesn't give you an economy look. I personally could do no better to find another manufacturer who could offer a bass of this caliber at a lower price. The Roswell alnico pickups are a really impressive feature as nearly most other brands of economy jazz-style basses come with that cheap 'magnet bar' ceramic pickup that always sound cheap. And just for comparisson of how much money you could easy spend on basses that are far less in value and they charge over TWICE the price of what you are getting from this Harley Benton, look no further than the embarrassment of a bass: the G&L Placentia jazz bass which commands an MSRP of $499,.....and it's complete crap. Harley Benton is getting it done for the affordable bass market with plenty of respectable stock features.
I have one with an incorrect thumb rest as well, I was thinking it was in the wrong place .makes zero sense unless you play it left-handed, but then the strings are reversed... hell who knows!!..watching you trying to figure out that thumb rest is probably exactly how I looked before just deleting the thing.
Your comment is relevant about the thumb rest.. I also fool around with the bass once in a while and I just don't get it that they place the thumb rest there..
That finish is sooo cool 😍
Just so you guys know, Paul McCartney plays primarily with his thumb and also uses a pick but never his fingers. Im not sure why some bass players think its a mystery that there are many of us that were inspired to play BY him, also play LIKE him.
But even though my main bass is a Hofner 500/1 Beatle bass, no finger or thumb rest is necessary for us to play with strictly our thumbs or use a pick.
Robbie Shakespeare, of renowned rhythm section Sly and Robbie, nearly always played the bass with his thumb.
Still trying to figure out if I should get the PJ version of this or a Sire bass for 3x more. I'd probably swap out the pickups for some custom or at least higher end made models still would only be about half the price. Sire's have the active stuff which I may or may not use. Its just a studio bass so needs to sound good and be able to be intonated rather than reliable on the road.
Woah! It's a pink bass! 👀
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the real vintage jazz basses had this thumb rest, afaik they were supposed to make the transition from upright to fender easier.
In the early days of the Precision, it was an experiment, and everyone was trying to figure out how to use this new instrument. A lot of guitarists bought them so they could pick up bass gigs without having to lug an upright around. In the first few years, there were no “rock” bassists, no Marshall stacks or roundwound strings, and no-one was removing the bridge cover so they could pluck back closer to the bridge…
Henning is actially a great bass player!
Em. Precision bass / Jazz bass, two different things, goes back a long way now, yes.
Currently sold out.
Great review....all the best
Just some guitar history nerdy stuff. In the early days of the jazz bass it was a finger rest for players using their thumb. Ie true vintage reissues will have that but odd on a modern instrument you'd expect it as a thumb rest to allow finger style playing. Given the block inlays not dots doesn't fit with the look possibly.
You don't know things Henning, but what you don't know, ISN'T worth knowing anyway! \m/
@EytschPi42.. OXENSHISSE! REPORTED!
Is this nice color just upcoming? Not listed on Thomann Shop.
That color is variation is sold out for the time being.
@@Goblinity is it only me? Every time an artice is telling "buy me" - it is one of this - oh sorry, already / temporary sold out :(
Tortoiseshell. You’re welcome.
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Yeah, Leo Fender thought that people would want to play a bass guitar with their thumb when he designed the Precision bass. Turns out, he was wrong, but they kept putting a "tugbar" (it should never have been called a "thumbrest") bellow the strings anyway. Now, it's considered part of the "traditional" aesthetic, so every manufacturer of Fender bass copies feels compelled to put one there, despite its limited utility.
It reminds me of the early Iron Maiden bass tone.
Very nice bass for the money by the way. You can’t really go wrong with it.
That's the custom upgrade Paul McCartney thumb rest.
Spiele seit 4o Jahren Bass und Gitarre , weiß aber immer noch nicht , was der thumbrest an dieser Stelle soll...spielt man den Bass von unten im Liegen?
Hey Henning, what’s that filter/effect you use for your face in the Thumbnails? Looks very cool
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Think I might go for the cheaper non gohto fitted version myself and determine if I needed to upgrade or not. But I'm a guitarist who only plays bass for recording
Yeah imo not worth if that's what you're gonna use it. I mean if the bridge too was gotoh then yeah I'd say it'd be worth... But just the tuners alone nah.
"Rock the tug-bar"
Benton please do short scale jazz basses ❤
You should try a Gretsch G2220. Excellent bass for the money. Some good reviews on CZcams.
I play with my thumb :D :D :D I know I know ... but I do :D
maybe that's a finger rest for those who play with their thumb?
it's almost as low as my guitars!
ahm…. go away…. go away Andrew and tune up
That thumb rest is in a terrible spot lol.
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i have seen a few basses with that "tug bar" but I have NEVER EVER seen anybody with a playstyle that was all thumb and required a tug bar
I’ve played bass with just my thumb from day one and still do.
@@Xcorgi whatever works right, i have just never seen anybody play that way, most people play with the other fingers mainly and only uses the thumb sometimes
@@SpiritDK Then i guess you’ve never heard of Paul McCartney. Because he uses his thumb and pick only and has influenced thousands of people to play bass. He’s also one of the top 10 bass players on the planet.
Macca was still a schoolboy when the original Telecaster-shaped Precision bass came out in the early 50’s. Also, he didn’t switch over to bass until Stu Sutcliffe left, more than a decade after the 1951 introduction of the original P-bass.
@@Xcorgi i know so little about Paul McCarney I couldn't even tell you if you were pulling my leg, I was pretty sure he was a guitar player, personally, I'm more inspired by people like Leland Sklar, so though both legions in their own right there are miles apart,
also, you seem a lot more knowledgeable in this area I'm still just trying to learn to play the dang thing, but ok yes there are some players that play with their thumb only, it's still only a small handful of the entire market, so it's kinda strange they on such a cheap model would spend money on a thing 1 in a million would use
I would have bought it immediately but this burgundy mist colour can't be found anywhere. Thomann doesn't list this colour anymore. Seems it won't be produced again. Why Thomann sent it to you now is anybody's guess. Shame on them.
I had a tug bar on one of my basses, I did the same thing took it off because it was in my way.
They make no logical sense.
Sorry but I'm getting way too much clipping and distortion from this demo - the preamp is distorting.
yes, I cranked that Ampeg a bit
A very sexy bass.
Sounds like kind of cheap version of Marcus
Dont know why your face on the thumbnails is redrawn as a cartoon, but now Rick Beato is copying you and doing the same thing lol.
LoL
Tug Bar
All the slap bass players hate the finger rest but those of us who play only with our thumbs who love the deep rich 70’s and older tone of bass love it. If you love that shitty metallic piano wire 90’s and later sound and play with only your fingers, you’re gonna hate it. Theres nothing worse to a classic rock bass player than hearing that metallic piano wire slap bass solo shit go on for 30 minutes solid!
Hier schau dir mal den Bassmann an! Da kannst Du sehen zu welcher Spielart dieser Fingerbalken gehört. czcams.com/video/N9AJARHjhqw/video.html&ab_channel=ClassicHits%7BStereo%7D
Wow! daaaanke!
warum muß ein Gitarrist einen Bass testen ??? Ein Bassist würde wissen, dass früher Thumbrests bei allen Fender Bässen unten waren und auf 60er Jahre Filmen sieht man, wie Bassisten mit absurden Techniken diese benutzen. Das nennt man vintage optik, obwohl natürlich die Tuner und der Jazz Bass-PU und -Hals nicht "Vintage" sind.
Man merkt leider doch, daß du hauptsächlich Gitarrist bist beim rumbassen:)....und das meine ich nicht böse...lg
Meh