Natasha Hausdorff | This House Would Pressurise Israel To Exchange Land for Peace | Cambridge Union
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- Natasha Hausdorff speaks as First Opposition to the motion on 4th May 2023 at 7:30 in the Debating Chamber.
This debate will be examining Israel's military and settler presence since 1967 in the West Bank and East Jerusalem. In the wake of an especially violent year in the West Bank and the recent election of an Israeli government particularly committed to the retention and settlement of these territories, engaging with this enduring conflict is particularly vital. We will examine whether there should be more pressure on Israel to give up control of the West Bank and East Jerusalem and if doing so now is a crucial step towards lasting peace.
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Natasha Hausdorff is a barrister at Six Pump Court Chambers, a frequent speaker on international law and a commentator on the Arab-Israeli conflict. She clerked for the late Chief Justice Miriam Naor, President of Israel's Supreme Court, and was a Fellow at Columbia Law School's National Security Law Program. Natasha read law at Oxford university, qualified as a solicitor at Skadden, and subsequently gained an LLM from Tel Aviv University, specialising in public international law.
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She's amazing. Bright, intellectual, and factual. Thank you for standing up to the bullies and hateful, anti-Semitic lies.
Absolutely, and the utter disrespect from the other side tells you exactly who the fascists are.
I absolutely ADORE hee.
Natasha was correct on every point and yet some of the people in this so called prestigious academic institution could not even abide by their own debate rules and keep their mouths shut till the appropriate time!
It appalled me how FEW of them seem to have ANY idea of the events from 1929, when the then Islamic Grand Mufti, Amin al-Husseini, himself inspired by the beliefs of Hitler, stirred up Arab Nationalism and insitigated not only the 1929 Hebron and Jerusalem massacres, but also similar persecution of the Jews still living there throughout the 1930s. THAT, inspired by Amin al-Husseini directly CAUSED the flight of Jews from all surrounding Arab States. They have DIRECT experience of what a "palestinian state" would mean !
Amin al-Husseini, THEN lived in Berlin and worked FOR the Nazis throughout WW2 propagating anti Jewish propaganda, and pro Nazi alliances amongst Arab states, which all culminated, in 1948, with ALL of the surrounding Arab nations deciding to eliminate the Jewish people altogether from the area.
They then ATTACKED them, as they are still doing today, and which Hamas has sworn to "complete".
and yet the ignorant insists to remain on their ignorance. as an Israeli Jew, especially in these times when the intentions of Hamas are so cruel and evident, it's frustrating.
@@user-zf8xk5cu4u אנא הישארו חזקים, והיו בטוחים שיש רבים מאיתנו שיודעים את האמת, ורואים ישר את כל השקרים. אנחנו יודעים שישראל הנפלאה ניסתה כל כך קשה לעשות ויתורים למען השלום מאז 1948, ושתמיד האיסלאמיסטים שוברים את השלום. לאחר הפראות של חמאס ב-7 באוקטובר, אנו יודעים שלישראל אין ברירה אחרת. בבקשה אל תקשיב לבורות מערבית. אנא הישארו חזקים והשלימו את משימתה של ישראל. לכל האנושות!
יש מיליונים מאיתנו עם ישראל האמיצה
Or they are just upset with that the UK was wedged off the throne as a world colonists superpower and forced to redraw from UK and French occupying the Suez Canal, which was of great need to support British economy. A total fiasco in 1956.
Then the Jews teamed up with the new superpower USA.
So they can’t attack the USA, but they can backstab Israel 🇮🇱
No she wasnt. Some Jews are indigenous to the land. Its incorrect that JEWS are indigenous to the land. That would imply Australians are indigenous to Britain, Canadians to France and Brazilians to Portugal.
This naive house obviously didn't understand the savagery of Hamas
wta bt the savegery of israeli defese force which killed tens of thousands of kids and women and r stealing their land??
Well said.
Those laughing are only revealing that they have never visited Israel and have never spoken with an Arab-Israeli in their life.
Bingo
Bingo!! European as US youngsters the so called freedom fighters? Never experienced what is going on there, their perception is only based on emotions and indoctrinated misinformation through media and the educational system. Gladly we come to a point that we are going to figure out who's behind this all. ✌ sincerely G.
The ignorance of these lett-indoctrinated so called "students" is chilling !
@@d3w3yd3c1m4lwhat bingo? Arab Israelis are second class citizens with restrictions where they live (rarely get permits to build in their own towns, and they can’t reunite with foreign spouses the way Israeli Jews are allowed to!).
This woman’s argument is just Rubbish! And why you think Palestinians will be happy that tiny Gaza (which still couldn’t have seaports or airports) is enough, when the West Bank is still occupied and 60% of it is out of reach for Palestinians? Hamas is a national movement, it’s not confined to Gaza!
Palestinians waged war and lose more than once. They are treated as defeated enemies. What do you expect? Flowers and sweeties?
There is a common misunderstanding that concessions on land would lead to peace. The Palestinians have always rejected that idea, they want all land and the annihilation of Israel.
Well the same can be said of the Israelis they want nothing good for Palestinians. Just like this speaker
Arab terrorists, at the time known as Fedayeen, were attacking Israel long before it has pushed the Jordanian occupier from Judea and Sumeria.
Provide evidence of Palestinians wanting all the land and the annihilation of Israel.
Provide evidence that it’s not so.
@@AdegbengaOgungbeje
You can google this yourself but let me help you out here
evidence 1: Palestinians say: from the river to the sea - which means they want all the land
evidence 2: Annihilation of Israel: Here is an excerpt from Hamas charter: 'Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it.'
Ms. Hausdorff bravely endured. It was quite inspiring.
What a brilliant brilliant woman, clear, concise, and factual. Anyone who laughs at that statement is showing everyone how ignorant people can be and how much easier it is to believe a lie instead of the truth.
Yes absolutely true.
Talking of ignorant why don't you read a real history book on how Palestinians were driven out of their lands by the haganah and other groups. Speakers like her do nothing but throw fancy language and no justification. Going in circles.
I hope this young person is a future leader. She is brilliant.
Hahahaha 🤣
Except she totally white washes a lot of facts and details. She also white wash all the atrocities and murders that Israel commits. She being dishonest.
She IS a liar
She IS a liar
She's 33. And yes she is quite amazing
This speech has aged well. Pity the same can't be said for the students.
Those students are ignorants specifically the guy on black with curly hair
I never heard this young lady speak until about a week ago. What a brilliant advocate she is, everything she says is based on law, history and logic.
Law, history and Logic are not known nor practiced by the Marxist Left.
She has most likely been busy working...
She really is brilliant
Me too. Some 2 weeks ago discovered her. Its also that type of woman hugely interesting
Copy & paste: 'Natasha Hausdorff Katya Adler BBC' in the search box above. You're in for a treat 👍
@@regularshiftrs3676 She is indeed a very accomplished liar.
This lady is equipped with FACTS and knows the HISTORY! What a wonderful presentation❗️👌👏
When Israel unilaterally gave Gaza to the Palestinians in 2006, that didn’t end well on 7 October 2023 did it.
Exactly !...they now call for a "Ceasefire",.....when they HAD that...RIGHT UP TO OCTOBER 6th 2023
Actually, Gaza was given back in September 2005, and several thousand Israelis living there were forced to vacate their homes and return to Israel proper. All homes were then demolished but other infrastructure, built by Israel, remained for the benefit of the Gazans.
EXACTLY .... the Palestinians & their leaders are intent on destroying Israel
@@GilbertdeClare0704 Rubbish! And why you think Palestinians will be happy that tiny Gaza (which still couldn’t have seaports or airports) is enough, when the West Bank is still occupied and 60% of it is out of reach for Palestinians? Hamas is a national movement, it’s not confined to Gaza!
@@HusseinDoha Because there is no such THING as "palestinian". No such PLACE or COUNTRY exists called "palestine" WHY do you keep using the BRITISH MANDATE term of "Palestine" which was the BRITISH COLONIAL name for that area, in the 20 years BEFORE the UN allocated it to ISRAEL because the JEWS are INDIGENOUS people of that land, the Arab COLONIALISTS are NOT, Islamists STOLE that land of JUDEA from the JEWS in 650AD. In 1948 when all the Arab countries ATTACKED the Jewish people, they fought BACK and WON. The NATION of Israel EXISTS on ISRAELI LAND with 30% ARAB MUSLIM people. NO such place as "palestine" after Israel took THEIR land back for good !
We can all learn from Natasha Hausdorff. She speaks with eloquence, clarity and logic. Thank you Natasha for all you do for fairness in an unfair world.
Appalling treatment of Natasha by the audience and that creep opposite her who kept interrupting.
Can see here how we got here,Natasha will already know the evil malicious and violent nature of those that oppose the only democratic nation in that wasteland we call the Near East.
She did so well. But just look at what Cambridge has become.
Agree. It's so disturbing how members of the audience were so rude & disrespectful to her (especially at such a "reputable" institution like Cambridge).
what do you expect out of leftie racist englandstand muslim colony?
These "students" are the poisoned fruit of 30 years of Woke Left, almost Maoist indoctrination
That's what Islamofascists do: they shout you down, and if that doesn't work, they resort to violence. They use democracy as a tool to destroy democracy. They are a clear and present danger to our planet and need to be marginalized to the point where they have ZERO power to affect any change in any situation.
So. Sad. So. True 🎉🎉🎉🎉
Bravo Natasha. Truth spoken with utter clarity.
She lied a lot! … For example, Only democracy in the Middle East? No, they are not democracy to begin with, let alone the second lie of being the only one (Iraq & Lebanon nearby are democracies). 2.3 milion Palestinians in the West Bank have their lives controlled by Israeli government (by martial law) and they have no say about it. Meanwhile, Israelis who Iive in the West Bank enjoy the jurisdiction of Israeli civil laws and they get to vote in elections.
Brilliant! The BBC should send their reporters to Natasha for factual information, and training in correct use of language such as ‘legal’ and ‘illegal’. She will surely one day receive a medal from Israel for distinguished service. My deep thanks and full endorsement, Natasha.
It’s so disheartening to watch so many students of a so called “world class” university being poorly capable of either cognitive and emotional regulation should the topic be an emotionally charged one. This lady is a class act.
They don't understand that facts don't care about their fee-fees.
@@JohnnyRep-hz5qh No. They are intelligent fools. You cannot be wise without intelligence, while you can be intelligent and yet foolish. But you cannot be wise and a fool.
She's telling the facts.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
She IS telling thé lies apartheid IS used in thé westbank un and human rights watch Saïd that in there report and gaza IS on blocus since 2005 wish IS aigainst thé law
@@user-ky9wf3tf8m she is telling facts, if you can't handle facts or deal 🤝 with reality then do something with that.
@@Gordan19758 fact s that only you Isr and us believe 😂😂
She speaks the truth. I'm grateful for her excellent delivery of a very important subject. Actually, an all important subject. Thank you , Natasha.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
She is so brilliant. What she manages to do is astounding...
There is no amount of land Israel can exchange for peace short of all of it along with all their lives!
AND it makes the Jews / Israel responsible for the very people that are trying to kill them! It's so utterly ridiculous. If the Hamasians, I mean 'Palestinians' want a state, they already have one: it's called Jordan. Oh, right, Jordan doesn't want them either, cuz they are Islamofascist lunatics that destroy EVERYTHING they touch, see: Lebanon.
Israel have no plan of ceding anything! And West Bank is not Israel for Israel to cede! … Rubbish! And why you think Palestinians will be happy that tiny Gaza (which still couldn’t have seaports or airports) is enough, when the West Bank is still occupied and 60% of it is out of reach for Palestinians? Hamas is a national movement, it’s not confined to Gaza!
This woman speaks the truth God bless her
Very well spoken Natasha. People find it hard to accept the truth.
so crazy listening to this today after october 7.
she is smart; articulate and factual. none of what she said came from a place of emotion but from a cerebral researched and knowing place.
a pleasure to listen to
Great work Natasha - who have allowed parents to see how badly educated the current student body is
Those parents need to be ashamed of themselves but they aren't.
This lady is very well balancedl; unfazed by rude interruptions, and her presentation is succinct and honest. Same cannot be said for a few historically illiterate students.
Debates work best when the audience is grown up and has the patience to listen quietly.
has the INTELLIGENCE to listen quietly, and THEN respond calmly and INTELLIGENTLY
@@GilbertdeClare0704 well nowadays universities don't require intelligence, just money.
@@TrollAxeThrower Unfortunately, VERY true !
Respect to Natasha, I very much appriciate that briliant lady!
Brilliant speech! Natasha and Ben would make a formidable team for any pro Israel argument.
Cambridge Union has become a kindergarden of leftism, constant interruptions, not allowing her to speak and present her views, a drop down in credibility for these universities
Well done Natasha! It takes true strength and courage to stand up before ignorant and brainwashed public who laughs at your face. I'm to have brave people such as you with us
That idiot that interjected at around the 4:30 mark claiming that the pole was describing Israeli Arabs only, was stupid, because even if this is so (which apparently is not), means they prefer the "Apartheid " state of Israel over any other Arab entity. Moreover when negotiations where going on a few years ago with the PA, talks of territory exchange was discussed of exchanging Arab towns currently in Israel, with Jewish villages in Gush Etzion, the people in the Arab towns being discussed were demonstrating against it, well so much for "apartheid".
If this is the standard of Cambridge students in this day and age then not only is the U.K. in serious trouble, it is in trouble of the kind that is terminal to its culture and heritage.
If the standard of Cambridge student is this lot we clearly no longer need it as a university. Never seen such a mix of ignorance and lack of tolerance.
Although Natasha Hausdorff would not have known specifically that Oct 7 was on the horizon, her presentation of the failed policy of appeasement has once again been proven to be ineffective at brokering peace. As she said, the Palestinians have no desire for peace but only a desire for the destruction of Israel. I knew very little about the desire for the destruction of Israel until I moved to the Middle East to train Iraqis in preparation for rebuilding Iraq after the war. You just can't keep a good faith based hatred down.
Everything she said was plain truth...and the laughters from a very dark place called "i dont know the facts but i have an opinion because it feels good".
Disgraceful how she was treated, constantly interrupted. The moderator did nothing
Natasha precise as always
That awkward moment when an informed adult enters the room.
She is a very brave woman... God bless you.....
I believe Niall Ferguson has coined the best term for the people laughing in this video: "useful idiots"
A simple truth and powerful words from a sharp, firm and charming Lady
what a woman uk needs her in higher places
Magnificent speech.
Very impressive.
But that has been offered to the Arabs in Palestine since the 1947, & they always have rejected.
Which was followed by the rape, torture, and murder of Jews! They don't want peace, they want genocide, and then psychologically projection that onto the Jews!
According to her use of Uti Possedetis Juris she's actually saying the Arabs were right to demand the whole of Palestine and reject the partition plan.
@@ibntulun9405 In what fantasy world did you get that from?
@@rsr789 She's arguing that Israel is entitled to the whole of mandate Palestine because of an obscure principle of international law. But if that principle is to be upheld why uphold it only for Jews rather than Arabs? In 1948 Arabs were the majority. If her UPJ argument were valid (it isn't) it would have been valid in 1948. Even if it were upheld now where does that leave the Palestinians. Israel has to either 1. Accept full Arab citizenship from the river to the sea . 2. Maintain an apartheid system or 3. Ethnically cleanse the land of Palestinians. As a lawyer, which of these is she advocating?
Marvellous woman!
And this was months ago, they never change in the palatine brain .
Well done Natasha, you are doing your people proud.
Your new biggest fan since your appearance on BBC news with Katya Adler
Its crystal clear that shes laying down facts.
Thank you Natasha..you are not murdering the TRUTH...TRUTH is alwsys TRUTH that Israel is always and will always be the HOMELAND of the JEWS..
From time IMMEMORIAL the JEWS occupied Israel ..there was never a Palestinian nor a Palestinian state
Absolutely true .... well said !
Natasha is awesome, thank you
Wow! She is awesome! Someone who presents their argument with knowledge and integrity...for once!
Who needs facts when you have the GenZ's who know absolutely everything because they feel their opinions
Brilliant, clear and precise
She knows international law quite well. Brilliant young woman
What a shambles from the moderators, constant interruption and harassment.
F A C T S. Well done Natasha !
That is something I do agree with you those loud participants are just simply ignorant who believe that education by TikTok is sufficient to be educated
Amazing argumenting - what a joy to experience
Well Done Natasha stand your ground
1.Before Israel there was a British mandate, not a singular Palestinian People, Nation or State.
But a mix of Jews, Christians and Arabs (from Jordan, Egypt, Syria, Lebanon) co-existing in villages.
November 29, 1947 the United Nations adopted Resolution 181 (also known as the Partition Resolution) divided Great Britain's former Mandate into 2 Jewish and Arab states
Israel accepted the partition in 1947.
But the Arabs launched a war to murder and drive out the Jews…and have done ever since.
Wars the Arabs started, but lost.
2. Before the British Mandate, it was the Ottoman Empire, not a Palestinian state.
3. Before the Ottoman Empire, it was the Islamic state of Egypt’s Mamluks, not a Palestinian state.
4. Before the establishment of the Islamic Mamluk state from Egypt, the Arab-Kurdish Empire was the Ayyubid state, not a Palestinian state.
5. Before the Ayyubid Empire, it was the Frankish and Christian Kingdom of Jerusalem, not a Palestinian state.
6. Before the Kingdom of Jerusalem, it was the Umayyad and Fatimid states, not a Palestinian state.
7. Before the Umayyad and Fatimid empires, the Byzantine Empire was not a Palestinian state.
8. Before the Byzantine Empire, there were the Sassanids, not a Palestinian state.
9. Before the Sasanian Empire, it was the Byzantine Empire, not a Palestinian state.
10. Before the Byzantine Empire, it was the Roman Empire, not a Palestinian state.
11. Before the Roman Empire, it was a Hasmonean state, not a Palestinian state.
12. Before the Hasmonean state, it was the Seleucid state, not a Palestinian state.
13. Before the Seleucid Empire, it was Alexander’s empire, not a Palestinian state.
14. Before Alexander’s empire, it was the Persian Empire, not a Palestinian state.
15. Before the Persian Empire was the Babylonian Empire, not a Palestinian state.
16. Before the Babylonian Empire, there were the kingdoms of Israel and Judah, and it was not a Palestinian state.
17. Before the kingdoms of Israel and Judah, there was no Kingdom of Israel in the Kingdom of Israel, nor a Palestinian state.
18. Before the Kingdom of Israel, the theocracy of the twelve tribes of Israel was not a Palestinian state.
19. Before the theocracy of the Twelve Tribes of Israel, there was an accumulation of independent Canaanite city-kingdoms, not a Palestinian state.
20. The truth is that in this land kingdoms fell and fell... but there was never a State or a Palestinian people.
Palestinians are Arabs and Arabs came from the Arabian Peninsula.
They are the original inhabitants of the Arabian Peninsula.
It is pure propaganda to claim that Arabs alone are the sole inhabitants of the land or that the Palestinians are distinct peoples from the Arabs.
The family names of ‘Palestinians’ are connected to their Arab lands of origin. These were names they arrived with and the DNA they retain.
What I don’t understand is how one can make peace with apparitions. Which legitimate Palestinian party is asking for peace precisely?
Exactly. As Netanyahu said several years ago, "You cannot placate an implacable enemy". Wise words whether you like him or not.
They're all Arab/Muslims and none of them want peace. They want Israel gone and nothing less is ever going to make them happy.
Beautiful and brilliant! And always right!
Bravo!
Amazing how they do not let her speak and keep shouting to disrupt her. Proves that they are against exchange of thoughts and have terrible bias. Natasha is amazing for telling the truth
Wow, such revelation
Brilliant and beautiful, as well.
They have done that in the past and look where it got Israel. Learn some history!!
Natasha is speaking out the truth.
Well done Natasha!! Absolute fire and clarity 👍👍👍
Well presented and such a shame that the ill mannered audience could not listen, they might even learn something.
No, I don't think they will
Always excellent.
What a clear explanation, so eloquent and factual. Not one emotional argument or burst of anger. Her voice didn't crack once. A brilliant woman.
Are students within their rights to constantly interupt a speaker ? I thought a university debate was 2 speakers arguing for or against the issue , and a vote at the conclusion ??? I know its Cambridge but the audience is very unruly , well handled Natasha
Cambridge students are bad losers.
Plus, as we found out on October 7th, many are terrorist supporters.
They are undergrads. Students. No jobs. Bottom of the rung. They are looking as if they have already 'arrived'.
courage, wisdom and elegance, a really remarkable lady.
In order for women to be heard, they have to be very intelligent, forceful and very beautiful. Fortunately, there are quite a few.
Well done Natasha 👏 I’m sorry you had to deal with so many uneducated in history ignorants. So sad and scary to hear students to be such a massive disappointment 🥺😥
Those laughing are uneducated
Voice of clarity and morality in a field where both seldom exist.
Thank you Natasha. I hope that some of these ignorant people learnt a few things.
Finally… someone said it. It’s impossible but at least someone said it.
Prophetic speech of the highest accuracy.
This was a great and well articulated speech. It’s a shame that whoever from Cambridge uploaded and titled the video tried to attribute the word “pressurise” to the speaker, despite her never having used it.
It is refreshing to hear this lady and witness the rude interruption of loser, which she handled very well. The rudeness of the young students is appalling. No tolerance for facts.
A future cabinet minister or PM in the making - well done.
Love.
I'm 43 years old.
I grew up in Lod, Israel, city mixed with Arab and Jews.
I had Arab friends back than.
I currently live in South Tel aviv, near Jaffa, where a large Arab Community lives.
My doctor is an Arab.
And used to be my dentist.
I saw Arabs in the Army.
I saw Arab cops.
I worked with Arabs in the tech industry.
I saw Arabs in hospitals.
I saw Arabs in busses.
In restaurants.
There are arab lawyers.
When I jog, there's a part near the beach (Dolphinarium beach) where Arabs from Jaffa love doing bar-bi-que, they chill, they aren't bothered by anything.
Where I buy groceries, there are Arabs employees, they seem happy, they laugh and kid
I can literally talk a walk outside, just now, and see Arabs, walking freely, not bothered with anything.
Out of my own personal experience, based solely on what my eyes seen in my 43 years of living, I can tell to those people that laughed at Natasha when she said "Israeli Arabs have any freedom", without any doubts, with full authentic 43 years long, fact based confidence, that they were propagandized with lies to their core.
Wonderful speech, Natasha.
Great speech from a brilliant visionary.
The withdrawal from Gaza in 2005 "enabled the Iran sponsored Hamas to establish a terror launch pad" - she predicted the 10/07!
If only the Israeli government listened to her.
And she dealt with the hacklers so professionally.
Bravo.
Natasha is a great speaker!
It’s so refreshing to see an intelligent individual speaking facts. As a Turk I agree with her points. Real islamism is way more radical. Don’t expect privileged kids to understand that, they were born and raised in western bubble.
It's never worked before.
Natasha you're so brave! Facing these imbecile, cheeky hecklers all alone, remaining factual and rational always!
This woman is amazing! So smart and coherent
😂😂lol 😂
אלופה!
wow... amazing... prophetic voice.. and she was absolutely correct... all this 6 months before Hamas atrocities Oct. 7...which proved her right..
Rubbish! And why you think Palestinians will be happy that tiny Gaza (which still couldn’t have seaports or airports) is enough, when the West Bank is still occupied and 60% of it is out of reach for Palestinians? Hamas is a national movement, it’s not confined to Gaza! Leave the Palestinians alone!
And now with this war you’re going to lose even the little you have.
@@HusseinDoha if they hadn't wanted more and more land, "palestinians" wouldn't have attacked israel over and over again, and israel wouldnt have kept winning and israel wouldn't have gained land in the process
I went to Oxford, always new the tabs had no respect. Well done Natasha, but in one ear and...
I'd rather be a leper than a Tab.
Why can't they shut up and let her present her case? They can then vote for or against the motion as they think best.
I pray for you Natasha. May God bless you with abundant grace