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  • čas přidán 23. 04. 2024
  • Bryan Alvarez and Mike Sempervive discuss the latest in the Vince McMahon/Janel Grant lawsuit, with McMahon filing a motion on Monday.
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  • @samsonlovesyou
    @samsonlovesyou Před měsícem +36

    So...when John Laurinaitis said he, too, was a victim...? How does that fall into this narrative. 🤔

    • @chriskay1449
      @chriskay1449 Před měsícem

      IT doesn't. he is lying to save his worthless ass.

    • @FrozenSurf
      @FrozenSurf Před měsícem +4

      People forget this detail.

    • @scottytechNmore1
      @scottytechNmore1 Před měsícem +2

      @@FrozenSurfYUP like how?? this was a huge part in vindicating McMahon that did it

    • @rickroberts7611
      @rickroberts7611 Před měsícem +1

      A victim of Janel Grant

    • @samsonlovesyou
      @samsonlovesyou Před měsícem +2

      @@rickroberts7611 That isn't what he said.

  • @lagofala
    @lagofala Před měsícem +4

    You mean people didnt expect this? We've watched wrestling for years. Vince is a vindictive guy who has no shame.

  • @RenScarlet
    @RenScarlet Před měsícem +8

    This feels like a standard opening move, Vince's Law team is basically saying "This case should be dismissed because it should have gone to arbitration." I doubt that strategy will play out, but it's a standard opening tactic to shut a lawsuit down. If it fails, you'll probably see some attempts at a settlement, because WWE/TKO is named and I seriously doubt they want to go to discovery.

  • @bentheman1980
    @bentheman1980 Před měsícem +1

    I understoiod the violation of the NDA was basically what happened last year when the WWE board got contacted by someone informing them of Vinces indiscretions after which Vince disappeared, then reshuffled the board in his favor and subsequently returned. That lead to Vince saying to Janel: you violated our NDA since you told someone and that someone told the board and therefore you are not getting the rest of the money.

  • @GillBoldberg
    @GillBoldberg Před měsícem +13

    Vince screwed Vince.

  • @scottytechNmore1
    @scottytechNmore1 Před měsícem +6

    I truly think she just complied with his demands fearful for her life in general, but even if this isn’t totally the case and it was somehow somewhat consensual .. The CEO and chairman of one of the most wealthiest companies in the world should not be engaging in this horrific evil putrid disgusting activity in the workplace he should be held to a higher standard than some random replaceable employee stop

  • @ItsameBS
    @ItsameBS Před měsícem +1

    That is why you wait until everything is known. You would figure society would have learned by now based on the past. They just wanted McMahon gone no matter if it was true or not.

  • @larrysclassicsports
    @larrysclassicsports Před měsícem +9

    This isn't Stu Harts, you need to pay the amount you agreed to or your NDA is not binding

    • @nicodimus2222
      @nicodimus2222 Před měsícem

      There was only one Stu Hart, not multiple Stu Harts, so you don't need to put the S on the end of his name.

  • @littleCarmine
    @littleCarmine Před měsícem +2

    Poo Daddy just won't go away

  • @isaacmoore4057
    @isaacmoore4057 Před měsícem +4

    I stopped watching wwe when Jon laurinitas became gm

    • @isaacmoore4057
      @isaacmoore4057 Před měsícem +2

      Anyone who approves a Micheal Cole heel turn needs to be sued

  • @badaboom2321
    @badaboom2321 Před měsícem +5

    Sounds like people took their personal hate and opinions of Vince and used it against him to write him off based off of what one side said. Now that more is coming out it sounds like Vince might have the ball in his court. And if he comes out clean after all this I hope the world doesn’t forget how everyone on the observer payroll slandered Vince and kept pushing the narrative that he’s in the wrong.

  • @billyburleson6238
    @billyburleson6238 Před měsícem +12

    This woman was engaged wtf ??? Wow😮😊

  • @christophercordero1492
    @christophercordero1492 Před měsícem +7

    Anyone else here live or could afford to live In the same building as a billionaire ceo ?

  • @billyburleson6238
    @billyburleson6238 Před měsícem

    Looking forward to hear Johnny side ....

  • @MegaMijit
    @MegaMijit Před měsícem +1

    if vince isnt guilty, why would there be an NDA at all??

    • @antonycuff4512
      @antonycuff4512 Před měsícem

      I guess tony khan is guilty too with all his ndas .

  • @justintcb5189
    @justintcb5189 Před měsícem

    Somehow, Vince returned..

  • @matthewthomas9194
    @matthewthomas9194 Před měsícem +8

    Just the way bryan starts these promos off with his sarcastic tone he is just driving people off i use to listen to him and dave but over the last 2 years their blatant biased takes are forcing me to not listen. I know im not the only one who feels that way.

  • @RyanCMcD
    @RyanCMcD Před měsícem +13

    So Johnny Ace is a 'victim' of something that didn't happen? Nonsense. Vince is guilty. Johnny all but confirmed it's true, he wouldn't have to claim victimhood if what Vince is arguing is true.

    • @rickroberts7611
      @rickroberts7611 Před měsícem +3

      Yes he was a victim of Janel Grant too

    • @cheapfinish6224
      @cheapfinish6224 Před měsícem +5

      @@rickroberts7611 Typical man response

    • @RyanCMcD
      @RyanCMcD Před měsícem +3

      @@rickroberts7611 He claimed to be a victim in addition to Ms. Grant. Don't try to twist the man's words. It was very clear in his statement.

    • @MrJonnyl123
      @MrJonnyl123 Před měsícem +2

      Lol you don’t actually believe Jonny ace. That guy is a snake

    • @dannydyerschocolatehomuncu2758
      @dannydyerschocolatehomuncu2758 Před měsícem

      @@rickroberts7611hard drive checked: nonce confirmed

  • @TPRES_74
    @TPRES_74 Před měsícem +6

    Let's just call it down the line. Nobody's Innocent Here. Even Her. It was all about a come up and McMahon won't Win either way you look at it. He played Himself in the end.

    • @scottytechNmore1
      @scottytechNmore1 Před měsícem

      I truly think she just complied with his demands fearful for her life in general, but even if this isn’t totally the case and it was somehow somewhat consensual .. The CEO and chairman of one of the most wealthiest companies in the world should not be engaging in this horrific evil putrid disgusting activity in the workplace he should be held to a higher standard than some random replaceable employee stop

    • @TheHardys01
      @TheHardys01 Před měsícem +3

      The woman was rApd.....

    • @TPRES_74
      @TPRES_74 Před měsícem +1

      @@TheHardys01 - There's that possibility. At the same time there's loopholes for Women who comply with things then if they change their minds after the fact it's grooming or they were led astray by someone who was in a more powerful position than them. Because she was an Employee is the only reason this is still a legal case. Case point the Police Women who slept with the entire Shift and was fired and won half million dollars.

    • @TPRES_74
      @TPRES_74 Před měsícem +1

      @@scottytechNmore1 - She was in it for the Money. At least for a good while. I think she got tired of it at some point. And planned on using this stuff against him at some point.

    • @scottytechNmore1
      @scottytechNmore1 Před měsícem

      @@TPRES_74 I can’t imagine someone that likes to be shit on and raped against their will …

  • @sergiosandoval8674
    @sergiosandoval8674 Před měsícem +7

    All of a sudden she don't like it .

  • @budgibson185
    @budgibson185 Před měsícem

    Those are lyrics from a song lol

  • @MyChannel-ol1zz
    @MyChannel-ol1zz Před měsícem +10

    Drones defending Vince in the comments again.

  • @tylerflemming7059
    @tylerflemming7059 Před měsícem +6

    This sounds like a 100 percent money grab. You even said it yourself without saying it Brian.

    • @onyxmiller6954
      @onyxmiller6954 Před měsícem

      It is even when it first came out I smelt bullshit bc if you wasn't fucking with it you would have been left not accept BMWs and gifts lmao

  • @brianhopson2072
    @brianhopson2072 Před měsícem +7

    She sounds like a grifter regardless.

  • @rustyshackleford2792
    @rustyshackleford2792 Před měsícem +4

    Vince is definitely gonna win this one. If shed have came forward before the money stopped shed of had a shot. But she sidned the nda she knew what she was doing.

    • @jonny8908
      @jonny8908 Před měsícem +3

      It was Vince that broke the nda

    • @TheHardys01
      @TheHardys01 Před měsícem

      Dale would be ashamed of yu.

  • @kyleolson279
    @kyleolson279 Před měsícem +6

    This isn't looking good for Janel Grant as more time passes.

    • @littleCarmine
      @littleCarmine Před měsícem

      Stop defending Poo Daddy

    • @kyleolson279
      @kyleolson279 Před měsícem

      @@littleCarmine I'm not interested in your Vince McMahon fantasies.

  • @rydiddy6233
    @rydiddy6233 Před měsícem +12

    Lawyer here. Janel Grant’s attorney has weak excuses and explanations. She’s appealing to emotion by saying her mom was in a wheelchair and blind, it’s irrelevant to the allegations. Her claim that Janel was coerced into writing a love letter by McMahon because he had the foresight that this lawsuit would occur years later is nonsense. If that were true regarding the letter, she would have included it in all of the allegations in the original complaint.
    Who allows their ex to live with them for 3 years? That’s not credible at all. This appears to be a consensual but weird sexual relationship. The part where McMahon exposed himself was hiring her and engaging in an apparent quid pro quo relationship with an employee, which opens McMahon and WWE to civil exposure.

    • @BuddsyMalone
      @BuddsyMalone Před měsícem +4

      You dont write like a lawyer

    • @rydiddy6233
      @rydiddy6233 Před měsícem +5

      @@BuddsyMalone ok whatever that means 🤷🏼‍♂️
      I guess you’re the expert on how an attorney comments on the internet? I’ve been a licensed attorney for over 10 years and I’m a partner at a law firm.

    • @MyChannel-ol1zz
      @MyChannel-ol1zz Před měsícem +6

      Internet lawyer, trust me bro

    • @insaniacproductions5775
      @insaniacproductions5775 Před měsícem +1

      I mean, that was my thoughts in the beginning. A lot of people do messed up fetish stuff in relationships, but it's only "weird sex" when it hits the public eye and we can look at it from outside their bubble. I mean, we even change our outlook on a couple if we learn they are swingers. We will however know more if or when it goes to trial. Either it's just a sexual relationship they had or he was a devil. My problem with this all is that John Laurenatis does not dispute her claims, but claims he was also a victim. So to me, but i am not a lawyer so you could correct me if i'm wrong, should in some ways be a big blow to McMahon's version of what went on? In either case, if she lies or speak truth, Janel Grant saved WWE by getting bad booker Vince away from the product. So if she speaks truth or lies, she still the MVP.

    • @rydiddy6233
      @rydiddy6233 Před měsícem +2

      @@insaniacproductions5775 the whole situation from a legal liability standpoint is a bird’s nest of issues. In my opinion, he (and also her former employer WWE) clearly has exposure for a civil lawsuit for a quid pro quo sexual harassment lawsuit. If there wasn’t exposure, he wouldn’t have originally agreed to a $3 million settlement.
      The other issue is could there be a potential criminal component of this case. We’ve heard reports about a federal investigation and a search warrant being served, potentially related to this case and other ones like it. If there was a consensual relationship between Grant and McMahon, a criminal indictment is less likely.
      McMahon is clearly a sexual deviant. We have seen the text messages. Grant isn’t the only one who got a settlement for behavior like this, she’s just the one who is most publicly coming after him and exposing the details. This has probably been consistently going on with him for decades since at least Rita Chatterton accused him. Where there is smoke, there is fire.
      My whole point was Grant’s attorney isn’t very credible in her claims. She’s trying to make it seem like Grant was not a willing participant whatsoever and cherry picked the text messages. McMahon’s attorney is going to make her look like she’s not credible. Grant’s attorney may have done her a disservice and made some missteps, that’s all I’m saying.

  • @kingslayer2999
    @kingslayer2999 Před měsícem +12

    Imagine if Vince McMahon succeeds and returns to WWE to fans bowing to him and he starts booking again? Such good shit Pal

    • @chriskay1449
      @chriskay1449 Před měsícem +13

      He isn't. TKO kicked him out and he is selling his remaining shares. Settling the suit will not change that.

    • @billyburleson6238
      @billyburleson6238 Před měsícem +3

      That won't happen ever

    • @JT-fz2xy
      @JT-fz2xy Před měsícem +2

      The aew fans would pop if his music played on Wednesday night

    • @thejoshpresle
      @thejoshpresle Před měsícem +1

      Imagine having that be your biggest concern

    • @tronzilla1xboxhater850
      @tronzilla1xboxhater850 Před měsícem

      You smarks will love it

  • @silveredgrunion7196
    @silveredgrunion7196 Před měsícem

    Hey another thing about "the beefer". Sometimes after a really big meal, I end up having what I'd call hard diarrhea. It's solid, but little rapid pieces, like boulders falling down from death mountain in zelda. Sometimes they are small but then there's always that really big one that just feels like raw meat that's been sitting there a while. When it splashes you hear "ca-doooonksh" and you know some of it stained the bottom of the bowl.

  • @keefriff99
    @keefriff99 Před měsícem +3

    People who solely point to Vince’s texts as proof of guilt…some women are into WILD stuff. If you only saw half the conversation, you might also think someone was being harassed or treated badly, but a lot of men AND women are capable of being extremely kinky and twisted (and there’s nothing wrong with that as long as it’s legal and consensual).
    I’m not saying this to defend Vince…he’s the last person I want to defend, but it’s possible she was into all those crazy scenarios. She also could have been coerced…it’s not clear either way at this point.

  • @Rmit50
    @Rmit50 Před měsícem +4

    Who writes love letters in today's time?

    • @tylerflemming7059
      @tylerflemming7059 Před měsícem +2

      Older people still do

    • @scottytechNmore1
      @scottytechNmore1 Před měsícem +3

      Hopeless Romantics

    • @RolfeSenpai
      @RolfeSenpai Před měsícem +3

      People who actually like a bit of romance in their lives besides a date at Chili’s or a movie every couple of weeks.

    • @scottytechNmore1
      @scottytechNmore1 Před měsícem

      @@RolfeSenpai 😂😂

  • @marsspacex6065
    @marsspacex6065 Před měsícem

    The plot thickens.

  • @onyxmiller6954
    @onyxmiller6954 Před měsícem +1

    This case is bullshit it should have been out the way she was with everything until she received no more money 😂

  • @710moose8
    @710moose8 Před měsícem +5

    I hope Vince sues her and all the media people that said all the bs they have been.

    • @jonny8908
      @jonny8908 Před měsícem +3

      He has several allegations against him

    • @aaronknautz7364
      @aaronknautz7364 Před měsícem +4

      What a weird blind loyalty. Good luck with that.

    • @MotherHen2012
      @MotherHen2012 Před měsícem

      Good luck with that lol

    • @Bishop545454
      @Bishop545454 Před měsícem +1

      Vince is clearly a monster, but she's clearly no peach either.

    • @MotherHen2012
      @MotherHen2012 Před měsícem

      @@Bishop545454 Well she never broke the law like Vince...

  • @juanheredia9297
    @juanheredia9297 Před měsícem +1

    Seems like edrones want Vinny Mac back 😂

    • @MotherHen2012
      @MotherHen2012 Před měsícem +1

      The AEW drones want him back badly.

    • @alexmonro1711
      @alexmonro1711 Před měsícem +1

      Any actual wwe fan would recognize a Vince return as the disaster it would be

  • @thebigbarczynski5844
    @thebigbarczynski5844 Před měsícem

    Dumb

  • @Mymommasaid811
    @Mymommasaid811 Před měsícem

    With the years of steroid use, and the chair shots to the head, you can’t hold him accountable for his actions. He has the brain of an 80 year old, he should still be celebrated as a performer.
    It sounds just as dumb with saying that for this as it does when others use it as an excuse for someone else, but for those that apply this logic for a murderer, well gotta use it here too

  • @Tom_Ate_95
    @Tom_Ate_95 Před měsícem

    He should start a new promotion and give himself a Vinnocent gimmick.

  • @kitkatt24
    @kitkatt24 Před měsícem

    So anymore want to predict Vince’s return date?

    • @user-gd6gr5nv7g
      @user-gd6gr5nv7g Před měsícem

      near survivor series 2024 , where the story will be Vince team vs HHH team , winner take charge of WWE

    • @TheHardys01
      @TheHardys01 Před měsícem

      He'd have to leave first.

  • @thedaytradingdoge4095
    @thedaytradingdoge4095 Před měsícem +1

    You can't use an NDA to cover a crime. If what she says is true the NDA is null and void.

    • @DaveTheDopeFiend
      @DaveTheDopeFiend Před měsícem

      If what you say is true, the Shaolin and the Wu Tang could be dangerous.

  • @Fantomaslives
    @Fantomaslives Před měsícem +3

    Vince will win

  • @JoeMastronardo
    @JoeMastronardo Před měsícem +2

    The Observer is so mad Vince has a defense. Oh and looks like Vince is innocent too.

    • @jonny8908
      @jonny8908 Před měsícem +3

      Vince has several allegations against him. Do better

    • @tronzilla1xboxhater850
      @tronzilla1xboxhater850 Před měsícem +1

      The guy who sacrificed Owen Hart is innocent? Hahaha yeah right

  • @scottytechNmore1
    @scottytechNmore1 Před měsícem +1

    How would Vince even know/remember years later where she lived, had a fiancé, what building and so many details about her life etc. if this wasn’t all true? Because I’m sure he knows all that extremely detailed information about all of his employees in titan tower yeah right …

    • @scottytechNmore1
      @scottytechNmore1 Před měsícem +2

      I just had a legally blonde in the court room moment lol

    • @paulofreire9174
      @paulofreire9174 Před měsícem +1

      That’s…a pretty damn good point.

    • @dieselramonsting8881
      @dieselramonsting8881 Před měsícem +2

      It's a lawsuit so it's normal he has a team investigating her background. Doesn't mean he knew or didn't know that stuff about her then.

  • @leeedwards9068
    @leeedwards9068 Před měsícem +2

    Why is wee Bryan yelling every other word of a legal statement by an attorney??
    If this is a new feature; please read some TKhan statements and yell each of the several hundred ‘GREAT’s’…

  • @paulofreire9174
    @paulofreire9174 Před měsícem +6

    Now do one on Jericho.

    • @MyChannel-ol1zz
      @MyChannel-ol1zz Před měsícem +3

      Vincel alert

    • @paulofreire9174
      @paulofreire9174 Před měsícem +1

      @@MyChannel-ol1zz Wait…what does that even mean? I’m an incel (not a word) for/with/by Vince Russo? Sorry English is my first language.

    • @MyChannel-ol1zz
      @MyChannel-ol1zz Před měsícem +5

      @@paulofreire9174 Clearly comprehension isn’t your strong suit.

    • @paulofreire9174
      @paulofreire9174 Před měsícem

      @@MyChannel-ol1zz Clearly grammar isn’t yours. What is a vincel?

    • @MyChannel-ol1zz
      @MyChannel-ol1zz Před měsícem +3

      @@paulofreire9174 Grammar’s perfectly fine. Keep deflecting.

  • @neilefc877
    @neilefc877 Před měsícem +1

    I just wish these two kids could work it out. Theres no need to get the courts involved.

  • @boombastic108
    @boombastic108 Před měsícem +6

    I still want to know why she waited until the money stopped coming in to squeal? That would indicate that it wasn't this life destroying event for her. There wasn't a gun against her head, she wasn't forced to do any of this.
    I think she liked it.

    • @adamrichman6105
      @adamrichman6105 Před měsícem +6

      Have you often assumed that women liked it when they said that they didn’t?

    • @boombastic108
      @boombastic108 Před měsícem +3

      @@adamrichman6105 I do when the timing is very convenient.

    • @Julian-xj6mh
      @Julian-xj6mh Před měsícem

      ​@@boombastic108just because you were raised like trailer trash doesn't mean the rest of the world is

    • @Julian-xj6mh
      @Julian-xj6mh Před měsícem +2

      What did your mother do when all those dudes did that to her

    • @kingslayer2999
      @kingslayer2999 Před měsícem +4

      Correct Janal Grant is the HEEL in this situation

  • @Julian-xj6mh
    @Julian-xj6mh Před měsícem +17

    Now do one on Jericho

  • @JoeMastronardo
    @JoeMastronardo Před měsícem +6

    Parents dead for years and she was living in a multi million dollar high rise with a boyfriend when she was in a relationship with Vince. So basically they came up with the sob story for the lawsuit, and now her credibility is being blown to shit, and she's attempting to extort a rich guy.

    • @sutterkane5716
      @sutterkane5716 Před měsícem +5

      Keep telling yourself that

    • @giancarlocrumps7564
      @giancarlocrumps7564 Před měsícem +2

      ​@@sutterkane5716how is he wrong
      She's looking for a payday
      If he had paid her what he promised we would have never heard about her sad story

    • @RyanCMcD
      @RyanCMcD Před měsícem +1

      How does Johnny Ace fit into your little narrative then? How can Johnny Ace be a victim of something that you clearly believe didn't happen?

    • @juanheredia9297
      @juanheredia9297 Před měsícem

      That billionaire agreed to pay same with his other NDA'S so where's the logic. Only different thing is that he stopped paying even though he is "the rich guy" wait what? 🤔

    • @juanheredia9297
      @juanheredia9297 Před měsícem

      ​@@giancarlocrumps7564 pretty sure a NDA wouldn't have been involved in the beginning especially with a letter drafted 24 times...

  • @FRIGIDBASTARDS
    @FRIGIDBASTARDS Před měsícem +8

    What inspires this stuff? Vince is no longer involved in anything, but we still gotta hear about dude.

    • @turtlehead2
      @turtlehead2 Před měsícem +14

      Only a clown would try to pretend like someone with DECADES in the wrestling industry and the biggest wrestling promotion ever is not in any way an influence on wrestling.
      So we still gotta hear about dude.

    • @bobsucks9647
      @bobsucks9647 Před měsícem +12

      Why is a wrestling channel talking about the most well known figure in wrestling being sued for sex trafficking and rape? You gotta be a bot, no chance that’s a real question a human would ask

    • @Julian-xj6mh
      @Julian-xj6mh Před měsícem

      ​@@turtlehead2don't ever speak on a topic again you mark

    • @FRIGIDBASTARDS
      @FRIGIDBASTARDS Před měsícem

      @@bobsucks9647 I think y’all love to hate WWE. Wack

    • @chriskay1449
      @chriskay1449 Před měsícem

      WWE is named as a defendant in the lawsuit.

  • @frconvey
    @frconvey Před měsícem +4

    Hopefully the gold digger gets nothing

  • @ColbyONE
    @ColbyONE Před měsícem +15

    Get over it. It’s sex. He didn’t rape anyone, didn’t force her to do anything if she didn’t want to, and she sure as hell didn’t have a problem cashing the damn checks.

    • @Julian-xj6mh
      @Julian-xj6mh Před měsícem

      Pathetic boomer says what?

    • @JoeMastronardo
      @JoeMastronardo Před měsícem +1

      Bravo my friend

    • @MyChannel-ol1zz
      @MyChannel-ol1zz Před měsícem +4

      SA supporter alert

    • @MrJonnyl123
      @MrJonnyl123 Před měsícem +1

      She could have gotten in that bmw vince gave her and driven away with all the money she had for working there doing nothing at any time

  • @Gloriousibglorious
    @Gloriousibglorious Před měsícem

    I’m a massive wrestling observer and Dave meltzer fan, and it looks like Vince was innocent

  • @michaelmansini2307
    @michaelmansini2307 Před měsícem +36

    Vince is 100 % innocent

    • @ClymenetheFox
      @ClymenetheFox Před měsícem

      Loser

    • @710moose8
      @710moose8 Před měsícem +6

      1000000%

    • @QualtM
      @QualtM Před měsícem

      @michaelmansini2307 Pathetic smooth brain opinion. Boot licker hahaha

    • @suprcrzy
      @suprcrzy Před měsícem +3

      How dare you speak to my friend Vince McMahon that way!!
      - Vince... under a sock account
      Probably

    • @QualtM
      @QualtM Před měsícem

      @michaelmansini2307 Smooth brain sycophant opinion hahahaha

  • @Gloriousibglorious
    @Gloriousibglorious Před měsícem

    I stand by Vince and I’m an aew mark (no jokes)