sand/fire/gray is very much sandstorm saying "yeah this is my husband's boyfriend. i don't like him that much but we hook up sometimes'" and graystripe saying "that's my boyfriend's wife shes pretty cool"
Just a reminder, Stormcloud would stay up all night to be with Sparkpelt, for many days, to comfort her after Larksong’s death. He clearly cared about her.
They honestly make so much sense it hurts that they're not. I think Nightheart having some kind of relationship with Stormcloud as his step-dad, whether positive or negative, would have been a really great move too.
@@cloverbun2574+ To be fair there's still a chance that it may develop in the books. If I'm correct Nightheart and Sunbeam are Thunderclan cats (again for Nightheart) and it would be healthy for the books to have a good family ties resolution with Nightheart and his family. Stormcloud can even tie it together if the Erins know what they're doing.
I haven't been in the Warroir cats fandom in nearly 3 years and coming back to this video is like getting clubbed over the head trying to remember who the fuck these cats are.
Being gay is a choice and Firestar should chose to be gay for Longtail or Greystripe or Onestar. Or chose bisexuality. I want him with a lot of other cats.
But the problem is when rusty joined Thunderclan longtail was a fully trained young warrior and as for rusty you couldn't exactly call him an apprentice yet since he just turned 6 moons so rusty was still a kit when he joined Thunderclan while longtail was a warrior
@@Limenade8 6 months is not a kit though. he objectively did not join as a kit, because he joined as a ‘paw. and most warrior pairings met while one was an apprentice. i mean, by arc 2 or 3 they’re very very similar age- and experience-wise. this isn’t my ship but making up “problematic” facts that are actively disproven in canon to argue with people is weird.
I love Bluestar x Yellowfang, both for the idea of that relationship being a healing experience for them and because it's conceptually funny to me for reasons I can't really articulate. I just love the thought of Bluestar seeing this old kind of smelly cat and being like 👀and immediately deciding to keep her in Thunderclan no matter the cost
Firestar/Onestar gets an additional boost when you remember how Onestar treated his canon love interest. Being infatuated with a kittypet only to turn on his heels and reject them later because he's scared of judgement would be very in-character for him. Oh, the tragedy...
Alderheart x Puddleshine gets a lot of its fuel from when they have to stay in ShadowClan together. Alderheart putting his life on the line (sort of, I don't really think Tigerheart's threats held much water) and living in an enemy camp to look after his friend is the sort of kickoff point a lot of ships would use. I feel like Alderheart brings a lot of Platonic romance on board in his hypotheticals though and I'm okay with that.
"They'll just really unceremoniously kill off the female character who's in the way of their ship." OR what they'll do is character assassinate that female character in order to set up character A with character B. Which I kind of like MORE for some reason? It's just absurdly entertaining but it is also concerning when writers do this option because it can completely turn a fandom AGAINST a character, or it can cause a fandom to COMPLETELY misinterpret a character which happens a LOT.
The second option can become annoying when these two characters are totally in love then suddenly she’s like “I dOnT kNoW iF i LiKe YoU aNyMoRe” out of nowhere (that or they just start arguing for no reason) it can be pretty annoying although sometimes it can be funny how obvious it is that the authors just don’t want to kill the character (bc we can’t have their love interest go through character development noo) so they just… destroy their character I feel like when I become an author I’d have so much fun with that 😂
I don’t get why they can’t just slightly change the relationship and make the canon love interest just a friend lol. The options are death or becoming a terrible person. And it’s not even just canon ships, I’ve seen people do that with members of other popular ships that compete with theirs. Like back when I was into attack on titan I read some Eren x Armin fic on wattpad and they made Levi Armin’s transphobic bully in high school (it was an au where Armin was trans.) And like?? Not only would Levi never do that but also he is like 30 so it’s funny that they put him in high school
I absolutely hate character assassination, and NOTHING in a story pisses me off more than that. Especially when it happens to a character I personally like. If you have to kill the character off or ruin them to make your ship work, then it isn't going to.
I’m surprised ShrewXSquirrel wasn’t mention, since many people ship them, which I can see why, they’re both were apprentices around the same time and mention to be good friends and because it’s not BrambleSquirrel lol. Also I personally see Hollyleaf being aroace and I will forever think that.
@@Spidermonkey43 YESSS. Instead of Squirrelflight getting together with Bramblestar, she gets with Shrewpaw, who either never got hit by the twoleg monster or got hit, but survived.
20:07 poly relationships don't have to be 100% romantic! firestar could love sandstorm and graystripe, gray could like fire, and sand could like fire, but they don't all gotta kiss !!! and also it could be a funny dynamic with sand and grey loving fire but sand and grey themselves absolutely HATING eachother. like a romcom situation
I do really like Rosetail and Snowfur, but personally I’ve always shipped Bluefur and Rosetail. Maybe it’s just because I’m a lesbian, but I read Rosetail as someone secretly, hopelessly in love with Bluefur. I think she’s constantly talking about crushes with Bluefur because she has a crush on her, and she tries to subtly get a feel for Bluefur’s feelings. I think she pushes Bluefur towards Thrushpelt because she’s being self destructive and she believes that Bluefur will never return her feelings. She watches his crush on Bluefur so carefully because she views him as competition, but in her mind he’s already won because she doubts herself so much. When Rosetail finds out that Bluefur is pregnant, her bizarre reaction is something I’ve always seen as the response of a cat who’s just had their heart broken. It’s weird that she just assumes that Thrushpelt is the father, but I think it’s because she was already so intimidated by him and convinced that he was going to win over Bluefur. It’s also very weird that she immediately goes to ‘congratulate’ Thrushpelt without getting permission or even confirmation that her hunch is true. However, I think that it’s her way of saying “you won, I hope you’re happy with her because she loves you and not me.” You could really view Bluerose as either being genuinely unrequited love or just love that Rosetail thinks is unrequited. Personally I do love the angst potential, but I also like to imagine an AU where Rosetail confesses and the two end up together, with Rosetail adopting Bluefur’s kits and helping to raise them.
genuinely i love love LOVE bluefang because it’s just firehearts moms being all cute together and if it’s too boring for you? oh just add graypool! then it’s a polycule of old lesbian women who are all firehearts moms. i also totally subscribe to the idea that bluepaw and yellowpaw met at a gathering and started dating in secret because they’re from different clans and it was a teenage dating sort of thing where they snuck out to see eachother, but then when she got exiled from shadowclan she was just like “oh shit, lemme just go visit my old girlfriend from 45 years ago” and went to thunderclan territory purposely to see if she could find bluestar again and then they got happily married and never ever died.
I’ve never given two braincells to any warrior cats fan pairing before now, but suddenly this comment is actually making me interested in writing this. I’m not going to, because I literally never finish writing anything, but it’s a really sweet idea lol
I think the Blue Fang ship would have started out with a fight about kits but would be super close. Would be also hilarious thinking about them sasing FireStar till the end of time.
watching this video knowing very little about warrior cats is hilarious, i just have to photos of cats and their funky names and i'm like "yeah they dont fit each other, NEXT"
The fact she's also giving us the "What would Warrior Cats look like in Real life" that some people search for in the entire community... Edit: Broo... That's the most likes I've ever got... Tysm, guys~
The sad thing is that there apparently isn’t a picture of a cat with their face half injured so Moonkitti had to just use a blinking cat for Brightheart.
@@jedi_cat_l4976i get what you mean when you say “it’s sad” considering bright got done dirty even with her picture but at the same time i’m glad there’s no cat who went through any sort of trauma related action to look like her
One of my favourites is BlueRose. I just love the idea that the reason Rosetail is so insistent on Bluestsr and Thrushpelt is because she’s in love with her. I love disaster lesbians.
"The answer is simple: Firestar becomes bi on the spot" had me laughing so hard, it's very true. Also I loved all the silly stock photos, it reminds me of when I was like 10-11 and searching for picture to fit of my warrior cats rp OCs LMAO. Edit: I'd love to see another video of this sometime if you feel up to it! Very entertaining. Also I'm all for poly ships but I feel like most the ones we saw here weren't great lmao like... greystripe... crowfeather... I don't have any warrior cats ships but I kind of hope so see some fun poly ones eventually!
Like consider: the cat who can see ghosts versus the cat who is a ghost for half of his arc. Root feeling insecure about himself but grows in confidence thanks to Shadow boosting him up, which leads to Root becoming more tied to the plot as not only can he see Bramblestar, but Shadow is tied to Bramblestar's fate. Have the two work to solve the mystery together, there's some angst with Shadow being a ghost hakf the time and risking his life, all the while Bristle becomes ace or a lesbian and does all the heavy lifting for the two boys and lives happily as Thunderclan's newest deputy under Squilf. Good day /for fun
After Bramblestar’s storm I really thought Cherryfall x Stormcloud would happen due to how close the two get plus Bramblestar hints at the two possibly becoming mates and then it never happened
I always thought they were going to hook Frankie aka Stormpaw up with Lilypaw due to both of them losing their siblings that book and helping each other cope with the grief.
I really hoped squirrelsol would have shown up just bc that ship is absolutely hysterical to me also, for your consideration: greypool/yellowfang/bluestar. the color co-parent polycule. I think the old women should have a weird, difficult-to-properly-label relationship that's just a bit too tender to be entirely platonic. But they are Not Dating. don't even worry about it. Oakheart is also there. He has a (small) crush on Thrushpelt because I think it would be Funny. all of this is happening in starclan in front of a mildly horrified stonefur and an ecstatic mosskit. do you see the vision.
I don’t really do shipping in this fandom but I got called a slur because I think Runingnose and Nightstar are cute together. This fandom is crazy man.
16:38 moonkitti says aro rights (no but seriously people should make more platonic relationships that are extremely close and important, just in general)
taking this opportunity to bring up my Leafpool x Sol au, because Sol was right about everything to do with StarClan and the writers had to make him do morally bad things in order to justify him being a villain. And StarClan mega screwed Leafpool over- They’re also my two favorite characters. I just like ‘em. So yeah, Sol convinces Leafpool to abandon her corrupt religion.
Thats cool! I have an au where leafpool gives up her kits to the twolegplace, cuz squilf refuses to take them/yellowfang doesnt lie about her being barren. sol sees it and is reminded of how he was abandoned to twolegs and he decides to take them in. Basically its an evil 3 au
Jayfeather is definitely on the aromantic spectrum in my eyes but I’m not sure he’s 100% aromantic (probably grayromantic) because of his time-travel relationship with Half Moon
@@minecraftstar_ I have decided to either completely ignore Half Moon or just say Jayfeather has a hard time diferentiating between romantic like and platonic like. I have trouble with it so I never thought I was aro until recently when I realized everything I felt was platonic.
@@minecraftstar_ My headcanon is that Half Moon is his comp-allo crush because she is unattainable on like, 3 different levels (he's a medicine cat, time travel, she was actually dating his past life not him). So he tells himself that he's in love with her 'cause he thinks she's cool and there isn't the risk of it working out and him actually having to /act/ on any feelings.
u summed up my thoughts on squirrelcrow very well. in my eyes they just would not get along. especially dont like it when brought up as an alternative to bramblesquirrel. like crow would Not be that amazing of an alternative 😭 he has a looottt of issues to work through. if squilf were to date anyone else at all id want it to be a happy and very healthy relationship. also LET HER DATE WOMEN INSTEAD
A rare-pair(not sure how rare it is) i have is purdy x midnight, but not as a romantic ship, i think that they got together because they liked hanging out with eachother and just being with eachother made them both happy, a silly old couple that could talk to eachother for hours but only eachother because only they can stand listening to one another. the platonic old couple that definitely drive kits to boredom with how much they talk(old couples are the best kinda ships, and if its a platonic ship it makes it infinitely better)
My own crackship is Tigerclaw X time traveler Darktail escaping death and finding old Thunderclan. Both idiots just staring at eachother like, "uh, muscle man" and they start singing opera to eachother.
I'm probably one of the few who ship Mapleshade/Myler and if it wasn't for Mapleshade rejecting his friendship due to him being a kittypet, it would have been a much healthier relationship than any Appledusk ship
@@shelbcake Er- she was also clingy to Appledusk? And no, being clingy to your partner isn’t a good thing, especially if she believes that because she had Apple’s kits, he can’t and will never leave her and will always defend her, and that he’s only hers and hers forever. Being obsessed/clingy to someone is never a good sign, especially if you don’t allow anyone to come near them or interact with them.
@@Littlefox1213 … I don't recall Mapleshade being particularly clingy or obsessive towards Appledusk in her novella? I mean she had the "if I can't have him you can't either" but it reads more like "I suffered alot of shit so you are going to suffer too". I don't think we get a whole lot of insight on what Apple and Mapple were like as a couple because it's largely unimportant to the tragedic nature of the story.
My favorite ship is GrayRiver - River Ripple (Riverstar) and Gray Wing. Do these cats only appear in the less-than-well-written prequel series? Yes. Do I still love them and the ship to death anyway? Also yes.
Why is it than everyone LOVES Dawn of the Clans? The second half of that series completely fell off and I feel like it’s like the Star Wars Prequels, it’s different and everyone is “nostalgic” over it.
@@Spidermonkey43I think it’s just because we’ve been looking at the Clans for 4 main series before that, so different groups, even though they _do_ become the Clans in the end, is kind of relieving
Personally, I really like the idea of Needletail x Alderheart. The way that the books described their relationship through Alder’s eyes just make it sound like he had a huge crush on Needle without even realizing his feelings, and their dynamic is cute. Needle is bold, outgoing, independent, and umafraid to speak up, meanwhile Alder is very anxious , soft-spoken and quieter. Idk, that’s just my opinion 🤷♀️
I'm not particularly a SandxFirexGray shipper but I can understand it as someone in a throuple that's just me and two absolute clowns one being the person that enables and makes the other worse, you get used to it and start loving to watch them stay up all night coming up with different song parodies where the main joke is a 2012 YTP meme, that's what SandxFirexGray is and I've seen it I live in it so it's real
My favorite which I haven’t found anything on is just FireGray (Fireheart and Graystripe) Fireheart’s words here: Actually copy pasted from the books “But no cat could feel more strongly for Graystripe than Fireheart had done, for four long seasons.”
An interesting format. And good thing you mentioned that it's okay not to like a ship/couple somebody likes and the other way around. Sometimes people really start fights over someone's opinion as if they care to not prove their point but change this opinion, eh. Anyways, it was nice to find out how I felt about these couples, too, cuz I've always been more of a person to criticise existing couples, once I thought about who I could ship I could barely come up with more than... three?😅 So outta these ones I'd say I like and/or just interested in are: Onestar and Firestar. Sparkpelt and Stormcloud a little bit. Shadowsight and Rootspring. Which was a surprise to me. As well Firestar and Longtail. (Why is Ivypool and Fernsong a ship though? With Brightheart and Cloudtail if these are canon?) It was interesting to listen to your monologue, too, even if I often don't agree with your opinion.
The exact meaning of "ship" depends on which circles of fandom you're in, but for a lot of people shipping is purely referring to the couple, not implying the canonicity. Canon ships are ships just the same.
Bluestar x Yellowfang is one of my favorite ships despite lacking context. Both being mentally unstable, I feel like Yellowfang would help Bluestar off-camera and if i'm remembering right on-camera but I haven't read those books in awhile. I still love the concept since Yellowfang is my second favorite cat other than Jayfeather.
My one ship is from way back when and it was Jayfeather and Kestrelflight - I’ll never forget the time Jayfeather appeared in his dream and he’s completely friendly and doesn’t think it’s weird that he’s there.
About sand x fire x grey, I feel like it wouldn't work because sandstorm is the cat who needs constant reassuring and affection to fight back her fear of love fading. It's hard to explain but I feel like Graystripe couldn't be able to do that(not like Firestar actually does but at least sandstorm does sort of trust him as a friend too) and dating 2 catss in general will be stressful for her assuming she starts fretting about whether they both will leave her out or something
@@lindseylindsey9200 I think it's pretty funny, and knowing that Thistleclaw did some bad stuff, Rosetail could just go "Hey" to Snowfur. And also considering that Thistleclaw is in the Dark Forest, they just go share their grief together.
I NEED to know your thoughts on Tawnypelt x SquirrelFlight, and Jayfeather x Poppyfrost Especially the former, I love the idea of Squilf just finding out Bramble's sister is a much nicer person who's also had mate/clan/kid dying issues (to a much lesser extent with tawny on mate problems but still) and just meeting up with her in the middle of the night so she can give tawny a little kiss anyways tawnysquirrel rights do you see my vision
as a STERN crowfeather ship hater (love the character, hate him in relationships) im glad to see someone else go "maybe squirrelcrow isnt good for squirrelflight" because shes had too much of her life dedicated to what the toms want
6:35 No one: Not a single soul: Moonkitti: "Crowfeather with yellow eyes" Edit: Just noticed, She uses the Yellow eyes pictures everywhere for him... 😅
In TNP he is pretty much always mentioned having yellow eyes except for like...three times (2 times saying they are blue and 1 time they aay they are green). He starts having blue eyes in PoT
Wasn't about to find pictures of solid black cats with blue eyes without Photoshop or stealing from some obscure page about cats that are born without skulls if you breed two of them together
bro it is so funny popping back into your channel every once in a while just to watch a video or two, because its been SO LONG since ive read these books that i have no clue what is happening, its amazing
Am I the only person who thinks One-eye the elder from the 1st series when I hear that name? Like I was confused for a hot minute when moonkitti was talking abt the Purdy x One Eye ship cuz I forgot the rude dawn of the clan cat was also named that
"Would sandstorm be able to deal with like, the 11th joke about mistaking a salmon for a trout in the same night before having to relocate herself to the warriors den? 😂 That is absolutely hilarious to me. I also really like Tawnyflight (squilf x tawnypelt)
I think Bumble and Turtle Tail would work better if they properly supported each other in canon. When Bumble sought a place to stay after running from Tom, Turtle Tail jumped right on the bandwagon of “nope, you can’t stay here, you’re annoying and worthless to us, have you considered just going back to Tom?” It’s one of those ships that falls apart the second you reread the books.
OMG I used to watch your videos all the time when I was like 11 and now I'm reentering my Warriors phase, I had completely forgotten about you but I'm so happy you still make videos!! (I'm definitely not in tears)
13:00 , its ashfur would like him cuz of the white paw 14:03 , this remindes me of a relationship dynamic that i saw: tuff warrior woman, and soft boy who worships her every move
I see SandxFirexGray with Fire as the poly person. Cause well, as you said, if someone had told him "Well, Sandstorm loves you, and Graystripe does as well" he'd just be like "Ok.." and set up a relationship with both. Gray and Sand would both equally love him but see each other only as friends and also sometimes be very annoying
My problem with Raven x Barley was that my understanding of those two was that Barley was Bluestar's age (so like... 40-55 in human years?) and Raven was Graypaw's age (just barely 6 moons at the start of the book, so like, ten) Which is undebatably weird
Barley was said to have known Bluestar, but not that he was the same age as her. Ravenpaw was also nearly warrior aged when he left ThunderClan. Barley is probably only a year or so older than him. Not to mention that they most likely became mates a while after they started living together.
@@imaginarylivingbody7154 oh ok thanks, I've never read any super editions so I'd mostly guessed these ages based on vibes and implications, I'd always assumed that firepaw ravenpaw and graypaw were the same age because to me it just made sense, and Barley just came off as very old to me, kind of like how Moonkitti feels about Daisy, especially since he was Bluestar's friend (unless I'm misremembering)
@@beekeeper9540 He’s technically listed in the allegiances of a prequel super edition, but that contradicts his backstory of him and his siblings being born in BloodClan.
The appeal of Bluestar and Yellowfang to me is mostly just 'I think Fireheart's two moms should hook up'
Yes
Very true
Agreed.
Okay but, yes-
It’s like eda x Luz’s mom
sand/fire/gray is very much sandstorm saying "yeah this is my husband's boyfriend. i don't like him that much but we hook up sometimes'" and graystripe saying "that's my boyfriend's wife shes pretty cool"
Very true
I have loved this ship for a long time and I love your take on this.
Fr
“It’s finally me and you and you and me and your friend Steve! Do do do do do do do Steve” 🎶
I'm SandStorm
this is my boyfriend, FireStar
this is his boyfriend GreyStripe
this is GreyStripes girlfriend SilverStream
Crowfeather's picture being this round chubby boy when typical fandom depiction of him is lean and pointy and sleek is making me lose it
I mean, he is drawn as lean and sleek because that's how the books describe him (as far as I remember)
lmao yeah, its a wink at the chubby amber eyed crowfeather official art
hes Smol
he chonky
he looks like a rotisserie chicken
Just a reminder, Stormcloud would stay up all night to be with Sparkpelt, for many days, to comfort her after Larksong’s death. He clearly cared about her.
They honestly make so much sense it hurts that they're not. I think Nightheart having some kind of relationship with Stormcloud as his step-dad, whether positive or negative, would have been a really great move too.
@@cloverbun2574+
To be fair there's still a chance that it may develop in the books. If I'm correct Nightheart and Sunbeam are Thunderclan cats (again for Nightheart) and it would be healthy for the books to have a good family ties resolution with Nightheart and his family. Stormcloud can even tie it together if the Erins know what they're doing.
I haven't been in the Warroir cats fandom in nearly 3 years and coming back to this video is like getting clubbed over the head trying to remember who the fuck these cats are.
How could you come back to this particular video if you haven't been in the fandom for the past 3 years
@@Dosia142 The CZcams Algorithm be like that sometimes. It's happened to me before
Bro its the same thing being behind in the books because you joined late, that's my problem
Same
Same haven't read a book since bramblestars storm and oh lordy lol
“I believe in gay Toadstep so I can’t approve this” is an iconic moonkitti quote i feel
the idea of firestar shrugging and just. changing sexuality. like actively changing sexuality is. REALLY funny to me.
Abrosexual Firestar-
@@seineeveei was gonna reply with that lmao-
@@seineevee im adopting this as canon
being gay isnt a choice unless youre firestar
Being gay is a choice and Firestar should chose to be gay for Longtail or Greystripe or Onestar. Or chose bisexuality. I want him with a lot of other cats.
Cinderpelt: Hey Fireheart, did you know that Longtail likes you?
Fireheart: *Instantly becomes Bi*
But the problem is when rusty joined Thunderclan longtail was a fully trained young warrior and as for rusty you couldn't exactly call him an apprentice yet since he just turned 6 moons so rusty was still a kit when he joined Thunderclan while longtail was a warrior
@@Limenade8 6 months is not a kit though. he objectively did not join as a kit, because he joined as a ‘paw. and most warrior pairings met while one was an apprentice. i mean, by arc 2 or 3 they’re very very similar age- and experience-wise. this isn’t my ship but making up “problematic” facts that are actively disproven in canon to argue with people is weird.
@@soldiaz7261 Yeah i know most pairs met when one was an apprentice but it doesn't justify those ships either
implying he wasn’t already
@@dumbidiotbird2147 implying he wasn't already what?
47 seconds in and I'm sold. I want to steal "Mothpool is perfect" as a soundbite tysm
Real.
Indeed indeed
Didn't you literally make a song about Mothpool?
I love Bluestar x Yellowfang, both for the idea of that relationship being a healing experience for them and because it's conceptually funny to me for reasons I can't really articulate.
I just love the thought of Bluestar seeing this old kind of smelly cat and being like 👀and immediately deciding to keep her in Thunderclan no matter the cost
They're my favorite ship lol I love those old lesbians
bluestar x yellowfang is the butch4butch warrior cats needs 😩
@@tfstarrynight You cannot contain my love for old, battle-scarred butches being in love and healing together
They’re so cute ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Bluestar: *looks at Yellowfang* so you're also Fireheart's mom?
the only warrior cats shipping vid that doesn’t mention jayfeather x stick. nature is healing
thjs brings me so much whimsy & joy for reals
oh my god, you brought that back from the deep recesses of my brain
I haven’t been an active fan since I was 14, I’m 22 now haha. Still has a special place in my heart.
The nature sure healed jayfeather, the STICK healed him
MY SHIP IS JAYxTHAT ONE GHOST STICK
"Shipping Alderheart is like shipping a piece of cardboard."
I love that line
Cody is leafpool’s bisexual awakening
Yes
I agree wholeheartedly
*YES*
YES
YES. Thank you for not forgetting Cody. I loved that bisexual dummy so much.
The most disgusting thing isn't whatever weird ship, but the fact that Moonkitti uses light mode discord.
this is so real
Fr
Actually I think it's a nitro theme
She could just change it to have a white background for the pictures to stick out.
True
Firestar/Onestar gets an additional boost when you remember how Onestar treated his canon love interest. Being infatuated with a kittypet only to turn on his heels and reject them later because he's scared of judgement would be very in-character for him. Oh, the tragedy...
FINALLY,someone who realizes Fallen Leaves was possessive and rude.
YES
can you explain? idk how-
fr tho
right ??
Alderheart x Puddleshine gets a lot of its fuel from when they have to stay in ShadowClan together. Alderheart putting his life on the line (sort of, I don't really think Tigerheart's threats held much water) and living in an enemy camp to look after his friend is the sort of kickoff point a lot of ships would use. I feel like Alderheart brings a lot of Platonic romance on board in his hypotheticals though and I'm okay with that.
So.... would BrambleCrow unite and become the Ultimate Misogynist?
MisogynistShipping /j
@@seineeveeThe ultimate toxic ship 😂
@@jayford4589they’re perfect for each other then lmao
Brambleclaw yelling and Crowfeather brooding would be like an unstoppable force meeting an immovable wall.
LMFAOOO I HAE NEVER LAUGHED SO HARD ON A YOUTHBE COMMENT
"They'll just really unceremoniously kill off the female character who's in the way of their ship."
OR what they'll do is character assassinate that female character in order to set up character A with character B. Which I kind of like MORE for some reason? It's just absurdly entertaining but it is also concerning when writers do this option because it can completely turn a fandom AGAINST a character, or it can cause a fandom to COMPLETELY misinterpret a character which happens a LOT.
The second option can become annoying when these two characters are totally in love then suddenly she’s like “I dOnT kNoW iF i LiKe YoU aNyMoRe” out of nowhere (that or they just start arguing for no reason) it can be pretty annoying although sometimes it can be funny how obvious it is that the authors just don’t want to kill the character (bc we can’t have their love interest go through character development noo) so they just… destroy their character I feel like when I become an author I’d have so much fun with that 😂
They also end up making the girl abusive in some way to push the boys together ugh
I don’t get why they can’t just slightly change the relationship and make the canon love interest just a friend lol. The options are death or becoming a terrible person. And it’s not even just canon ships, I’ve seen people do that with members of other popular ships that compete with theirs. Like back when I was into attack on titan I read some Eren x Armin fic on wattpad and they made Levi Armin’s transphobic bully in high school (it was an au where Armin was trans.) And like?? Not only would Levi never do that but also he is like 30 so it’s funny that they put him in high school
I absolutely hate character assassination, and NOTHING in a story pisses me off more than that. Especially when it happens to a character I personally like.
If you have to kill the character off or ruin them to make your ship work, then it isn't going to.
@@calliethewolfcat2183 yyyyep
I’m surprised ShrewXSquirrel wasn’t mention, since many people ship them, which I can see why, they’re both were apprentices around the same time and mention to be good friends and because it’s not BrambleSquirrel lol.
Also I personally see Hollyleaf being aroace and I will forever think that.
Shrewxsquirrel? Hmm time for an au… also I 100% agree with aroace Hollyleaf.
@@Spidermonkey43 YESSS. Instead of Squirrelflight getting together with Bramblestar, she gets with Shrewpaw, who either never got hit by the twoleg monster or got hit, but survived.
@@Mimikai4884 and then Bramblestar just goes and dies bc who needs Bramblestar
@@Spidermonkey43 Rest In Peace, Bramblestar. You will be missed… *not*
i love love squirrel and stormfur too!
20:07 poly relationships don't have to be 100% romantic! firestar could love sandstorm and graystripe, gray could like fire, and sand could like fire, but they don't all gotta kiss !!!
and also it could be a funny dynamic with sand and grey loving fire but sand and grey themselves absolutely HATING eachother. like a romcom situation
Yup!
I do really like Rosetail and Snowfur, but personally I’ve always shipped Bluefur and Rosetail. Maybe it’s just because I’m a lesbian, but I read Rosetail as someone secretly, hopelessly in love with Bluefur. I think she’s constantly talking about crushes with Bluefur because she has a crush on her, and she tries to subtly get a feel for Bluefur’s feelings. I think she pushes Bluefur towards Thrushpelt because she’s being self destructive and she believes that Bluefur will never return her feelings. She watches his crush on Bluefur so carefully because she views him as competition, but in her mind he’s already won because she doubts herself so much.
When Rosetail finds out that Bluefur is pregnant, her bizarre reaction is something I’ve always seen as the response of a cat who’s just had their heart broken. It’s weird that she just assumes that Thrushpelt is the father, but I think it’s because she was already so intimidated by him and convinced that he was going to win over Bluefur. It’s also very weird that she immediately goes to ‘congratulate’ Thrushpelt without getting permission or even confirmation that her hunch is true. However, I think that it’s her way of saying “you won, I hope you’re happy with her because she loves you and not me.”
You could really view Bluerose as either being genuinely unrequited love or just love that Rosetail thinks is unrequited. Personally I do love the angst potential, but I also like to imagine an AU where Rosetail confesses and the two end up together, with Rosetail adopting Bluefur’s kits and helping to raise them.
Bro, i don't even ship BlueRose but i love your ideas! I love your perception on rosetail and i think it fits very much. great job, i got invested.
Never thought of the ship name bluerose before now and i love it
im kinda shipping agnostic wrt warriors but you just sold me on bluerose. i can get behind that story, id read that fic
genuinely i love love LOVE bluefang because it’s just firehearts moms being all cute together and if it’s too boring for you? oh just add graypool! then it’s a polycule of old lesbian women who are all firehearts moms. i also totally subscribe to the idea that bluepaw and yellowpaw met at a gathering and started dating in secret because they’re from different clans and it was a teenage dating sort of thing where they snuck out to see eachother, but then when she got exiled from shadowclan she was just like “oh shit, lemme just go visit my old girlfriend from 45 years ago” and went to thunderclan territory purposely to see if she could find bluestar again and then they got happily married and never ever died.
I’ve never given two braincells to any warrior cats fan pairing before now, but suddenly this comment is actually making me interested in writing this. I’m not going to, because I literally never finish writing anything, but it’s a really sweet idea lol
@@dali-dogsame
I think the Blue Fang ship would have started out with a fight about kits but would be super close. Would be also hilarious thinking about them sasing FireStar till the end of time.
I can imagine the meme about monopoly
Firepaw : maybe we should stop playing
watching this video knowing very little about warrior cats is hilarious, i just have to photos of cats and their funky names and i'm like "yeah they dont fit each other, NEXT"
4/10, colours don't blend together nicely, and also not enough fluff. Next!
@@bluesheep7 EXACTLY. This is the most fun thing I did all day ngl lmao
I love this comment 😂
LOL same, dunno what a warrior cats is but this is funny to me idk why 💀
@@Jxzlmao warrior cats is a book series 😂
The fact she's also giving us the "What would Warrior Cats look like in Real life" that some people search for in the entire community...
Edit: Broo... That's the most likes I've ever got... Tysm, guys~
The sad thing is that there apparently isn’t a picture of a cat with their face half injured so Moonkitti had to just use a blinking cat for Brightheart.
@@jedi_cat_l4976that's the opposite of sad
@@jedi_cat_l4976i get what you mean when you say “it’s sad” considering bright got done dirty even with her picture but at the same time i’m glad there’s no cat who went through any sort of trauma related action to look like her
One of my favourites is BlueRose. I just love the idea that the reason Rosetail is so insistent on Bluestsr and Thrushpelt is because she’s in love with her. I love disaster lesbians.
I love bluerose
That's also one of my favorite ships!
Don’t ship it, but name sounds so cute
"The answer is simple: Firestar becomes bi on the spot" had me laughing so hard, it's very true.
Also I loved all the silly stock photos, it reminds me of when I was like 10-11 and searching for picture to fit of my warrior cats rp OCs LMAO.
Edit: I'd love to see another video of this sometime if you feel up to it! Very entertaining. Also I'm all for poly ships but I feel like most the ones we saw here weren't great lmao like... greystripe... crowfeather... I don't have any warrior cats ships but I kind of hope so see some fun poly ones eventually!
Shadowsight and Rootspring will always be peak to me because of how much potential the two had
Like consider: the cat who can see ghosts versus the cat who is a ghost for half of his arc. Root feeling insecure about himself but grows in confidence thanks to Shadow boosting him up, which leads to Root becoming more tied to the plot as not only can he see Bramblestar, but Shadow is tied to Bramblestar's fate. Have the two work to solve the mystery together, there's some angst with Shadow being a ghost hakf the time and risking his life, all the while Bristle becomes ace or a lesbian and does all the heavy lifting for the two boys and lives happily as Thunderclan's newest deputy under Squilf. Good day /for fun
YES.
@@varibunn TYSM FOR DOING GOD'S WORK‼️‼️‼️❤❤❤
They are so canon to me
REAL OMG i was looking for a comment like this.. also les bristle
After Bramblestar’s storm I really thought Cherryfall x Stormcloud would happen due to how close the two get plus Bramblestar hints at the two possibly becoming mates and then it never happened
I think the writers literally just forgot it was a thing + RIP the Clan actually having new blood.
I always thought they were going to hook Frankie aka Stormpaw up with Lilypaw due to both of them losing their siblings that book and helping each other cope with the grief.
I really hoped squirrelsol would have shown up just bc that ship is absolutely hysterical to me
also, for your consideration: greypool/yellowfang/bluestar. the color co-parent polycule. I think the old women should have a weird, difficult-to-properly-label relationship that's just a bit too tender to be entirely platonic. But they are Not Dating. don't even worry about it. Oakheart is also there. He has a (small) crush on Thrushpelt because I think it would be Funny. all of this is happening in starclan in front of a mildly horrified stonefur and an ecstatic mosskit. do you see the vision.
I like the way you think
oh that's so fun i love that
Thank you for offering us this headcanon, I am now taking it.
i’m liking the way this is going.
Bluestar and Yellowfang is my comfort ship. Just two crazy old ladies who find comfort in each other 🥰
the way that warrior cat ships often can't avoid being related and/or cat a knowing cat b when they were an apprentice/kit
Fr
literally ferncloud x dustpelt
Well yeah thats kinda what happens when you forbid any relationship outside the literal less than 600 characters in the same geographic area.
gray and fire will always be one of my faves. the way they act when they see each other in a light in the mist was cute and funny
‘Mothpool is perfect I have no critiques’ fantastic analysis A++++ 10/10 all I needed to hear
I don’t really do shipping in this fandom but I got called a slur because I think Runingnose and Nightstar are cute together. This fandom is crazy man.
Agreed. This fandom can be very terrifying.
Some people be crazy jeez (talking about the person who called you a slur like Jesus Christ)
IM SORRY THAT HAPPENED BUT THIS IS THE FUNNIEST THING EVER TO ME
Everyone will always be entitled to their own opinions, but Hollyleaf will always 100% be aroace to me.
Same
Agreed
Yeah.
Same (though I can accept her in a qpr)
Me too, but I do like the idea of her being in a queer platonic relationship with Hazeltail!
16:38 moonkitti says aro rights (no but seriously people should make more platonic relationships that are extremely close and important, just in general)
Please 😭 my aromantic heart needs more cute platonic things
@@Reincarnated_Pheonix SAME
taking this opportunity to bring up my Leafpool x Sol au, because Sol was right about everything to do with StarClan and the writers had to make him do morally bad things in order to justify him being a villain. And StarClan mega screwed Leafpool over- They’re also my two favorite characters. I just like ‘em. So yeah, Sol convinces Leafpool to abandon her corrupt religion.
that is a pretty interesting idea for an au actually
@@lilaniloxi thank you! hehe
Thats cool! I have an au where leafpool gives up her kits to the twolegplace, cuz squilf refuses to take them/yellowfang doesnt lie about her being barren. sol sees it and is reminded of how he was abandoned to twolegs and he decides to take them in. Basically its an evil 3 au
@@simratgill-pp5zk That’s so cool!!!! I’d love to hear about that 👁️👁️
I hate this ship. Good au though.
I wish there were more development for Brambleclaw and Stormfur as friends and foster brothers.
I like thinking Jayfeather is aromantic and I really don't think he'd do good with anyone anyway. Mousewhisker x Minnowtail is cool
I agree
Jayfeather is definitely on the aromantic spectrum in my eyes but I’m not sure he’s 100% aromantic (probably grayromantic) because of his time-travel relationship with Half Moon
@@minecraftstar_ I have decided to either completely ignore Half Moon or just say Jayfeather has a hard time diferentiating between romantic like and platonic like. I have trouble with it so I never thought I was aro until recently when I realized everything I felt was platonic.
@@minecraftstar_ My headcanon is that Half Moon is his comp-allo crush because she is unattainable on like, 3 different levels (he's a medicine cat, time travel, she was actually dating his past life not him). So he tells himself that he's in love with her 'cause he thinks she's cool and there isn't the risk of it working out and him actually having to /act/ on any feelings.
I live for AroAce Jayfeather
I can hear Moon's eyebrow raising when talking about Featherfern. "Why was SHE blushing, _HMMM?_ Is it because she's _PRETTY?_ "
u summed up my thoughts on squirrelcrow very well. in my eyes they just would not get along. especially dont like it when brought up as an alternative to bramblesquirrel. like crow would Not be that amazing of an alternative 😭 he has a looottt of issues to work through. if squilf were to date anyone else at all id want it to be a happy and very healthy relationship. also LET HER DATE WOMEN INSTEAD
I’ve seen bramblecrow before and those two both have a whole lot of issues to unbox so hey maybe those two can be the “have extreme issues” couple
i havent read a single book from this series in over 6 years and yet here i return clawing my way back like a deathly dehydrated animal
What? No Talltail x Jake? I'm gonna riot
Maybe I'm way too oldschool but man...
everyone already knows they’re cannon. no point in debating
A rare-pair(not sure how rare it is) i have is purdy x midnight, but not as a romantic ship, i think that they got together because they liked hanging out with eachother and just being with eachother made them both happy, a silly old couple that could talk to eachother for hours but only eachother because only they can stand listening to one another. the platonic old couple that definitely drive kits to boredom with how much they talk(old couples are the best kinda ships, and if its a platonic ship it makes it infinitely better)
My own crackship is Tigerclaw X time traveler Darktail escaping death and finding old Thunderclan.
Both idiots just staring at eachother like, "uh, muscle man" and they start singing opera to eachother.
Omg….. need this au
Your mind is so powerful
Clever mind you have here sir
Proposal: crowfeather × bramblestar. And then we just have to make sure they don't involve anyone else in it.
Imagine the disaster Bramble x Crow x Ash would be
@@imissyourmom Yeah, leave me out of that
"Toxic Redtail and Tigerclaw"
ah. okay.
that fact she had to say toxic (dat timing i scrolled down and saw this right when she said it)
I got a tinder ad before watching this 💀
I'm probably one of the few who ship Mapleshade/Myler and if it wasn't for Mapleshade rejecting his friendship due to him being a kittypet, it would have been a much healthier relationship than any Appledusk ship
this. i fucking love this ship
She still probably would’ve been clingy, but I’ll allow this
@@Littlefox1213 I think she's allowed to be clingy especially as she met him AFTER her kits drowned and her mate revealed he was cheating on her XD
@@shelbcake Er- she was also clingy to Appledusk? And no, being clingy to your partner isn’t a good thing, especially if she believes that because she had Apple’s kits, he can’t and will never leave her and will always defend her, and that he’s only hers and hers forever.
Being obsessed/clingy to someone is never a good sign, especially if you don’t allow anyone to come near them or interact with them.
@@Littlefox1213
… I don't recall Mapleshade being particularly clingy or obsessive towards Appledusk in her novella? I mean she had the "if I can't have him you can't either" but it reads more like "I suffered alot of shit so you are going to suffer too". I don't think we get a whole lot of insight on what Apple and Mapple were like as a couple because it's largely unimportant to the tragedic nature of the story.
My favorite ship is GrayRiver - River Ripple (Riverstar) and Gray Wing. Do these cats only appear in the less-than-well-written prequel series? Yes. Do I still love them and the ship to death anyway? Also yes.
Why is it than everyone LOVES Dawn of the Clans? The second half of that series completely fell off and I feel like it’s like the Star Wars Prequels, it’s different and everyone is “nostalgic” over it.
@@Spidermonkey43I think it’s just because we’ve been looking at the Clans for 4 main series before that, so different groups, even though they _do_ become the Clans in the end, is kind of relieving
YES! I love them
@@Spidermonkey43I think it’s mostly the concept people like, because the execution of it is less than ideal
@@seineevee mmm
3:11
"Slim, Sleek Squirrel Lady"
6:48
"F l o o f y Squirrel Lady"
Personally, I really like the idea of Needletail x Alderheart. The way that the books described their relationship through Alder’s eyes just make it sound like he had a huge crush on Needle without even realizing his feelings, and their dynamic is cute. Needle is bold, outgoing, independent, and umafraid to speak up, meanwhile Alder is very anxious , soft-spoken and quieter. Idk, that’s just my opinion 🤷♀️
I'm not particularly a SandxFirexGray shipper but I can understand it as someone in a throuple that's just me and two absolute clowns one being the person that enables and makes the other worse, you get used to it and start loving to watch them stay up all night coming up with different song parodies where the main joke is a 2012 YTP meme, that's what SandxFirexGray is and I've seen it I live in it so it's real
feathertail: exists
ferncloud: *bi awaking*
feathertail was everyone's bi awakening
yeah
My favorite which I haven’t found anything on is just FireGray (Fireheart and Graystripe)
Fireheart’s words here:
Actually copy pasted from the books
“But no cat could feel more strongly for Graystripe than Fireheart had done, for four long seasons.”
An interesting format. And good thing you mentioned that it's okay not to like a ship/couple somebody likes and the other way around. Sometimes people really start fights over someone's opinion as if they care to not prove their point but change this opinion, eh.
Anyways, it was nice to find out how I felt about these couples, too, cuz I've always been more of a person to criticise existing couples, once I thought about who I could ship I could barely come up with more than... three?😅
So outta these ones I'd say I like and/or just interested in are:
Onestar and Firestar.
Sparkpelt and Stormcloud a little bit.
Shadowsight and Rootspring. Which was a surprise to me. As well Firestar and Longtail.
(Why is Ivypool and Fernsong a ship though? With Brightheart and Cloudtail if these are canon?)
It was interesting to listen to your monologue, too, even if I often don't agree with your opinion.
The exact meaning of "ship" depends on which circles of fandom you're in, but for a lot of people shipping is purely referring to the couple, not implying the canonicity. Canon ships are ships just the same.
@@corvidaeae, okay then...
Bluestar x Yellowfang is one of my favorite ships despite lacking context. Both being mentally unstable, I feel like Yellowfang would help Bluestar off-camera and if i'm remembering right on-camera but I haven't read those books in awhile. I still love the concept since Yellowfang is my second favorite cat other than Jayfeather.
Toadstep can be bi but he isn't gay. You would tear him from the other ray of sunshine, Moon? Are you so heartless?
yes
@@Moonkitti ;-;
My one ship is from way back when and it was Jayfeather and Kestrelflight - I’ll never forget the time Jayfeather appeared in his dream and he’s completely friendly and doesn’t think it’s weird that he’s there.
About sand x fire x grey, I feel like it wouldn't work because sandstorm is the cat who needs constant reassuring and affection to fight back her fear of love fading. It's hard to explain but I feel like Graystripe couldn't be able to do that(not like Firestar actually does but at least sandstorm does sort of trust him as a friend too) and dating 2 catss in general will be stressful for her assuming she starts fretting about whether they both will leave her out or something
5:14, In my headcannon, always seen Holly as Aro, but each to their own.
You're right, now consider: aro lesbian Hollyleaf
@@musicplaylists6718_perfect_
@@musicplaylists6718 She went out of her way to say to SQF that she thought mates were a waste of time, so idk man
@@Rainer-fw7fd yeah, aromantic allosexual
Snowrose is actually a cute ship! i never knew it existed at all but that seems awesome! :D
Snowfur named Rosetail when they were both kits that doesn’t make it bad or anything I just think it would make this funny
@@lindseylindsey9200 I think it's pretty funny, and knowing that Thistleclaw did some bad stuff, Rosetail could just go "Hey" to Snowfur.
And also considering that Thistleclaw is in the Dark Forest, they just go share their grief together.
13:22 the firestar bi on the spot im dying
Sigma BrokenstarxTigerstar 💪
Gay war criminals🗿🗿🗿🗿
@@oko5771 exactly, I need more comically evil villain couples
Now YOU might be onto something
I approve
I approve
I NEED to know your thoughts on Tawnypelt x SquirrelFlight, and Jayfeather x Poppyfrost
Especially the former, I love the idea of Squilf just finding out Bramble's sister is a much nicer person who's also had mate/clan/kid dying issues (to a much lesser extent with tawny on mate problems but still) and just meeting up with her in the middle of the night so she can give tawny a little kiss
anyways tawnysquirrel rights do you see my vision
[● You just said what I wanted to say since 2020]
as a STERN crowfeather ship hater (love the character, hate him in relationships) im glad to see someone else go "maybe squirrelcrow isnt good for squirrelflight" because shes had too much of her life dedicated to what the toms want
*Sighs, quietly opens AO3’s tag search*
I could see Leafpool and Sorreltail solely because they both give off "free love" vibes- I don't see Brackenfur approving but we are disregarding him
i dont see brackenfur not approving this,,, the dude's a nice, wet piece of cardboard he wouldn't care as long as sorreltail's happy in my mind
"What if Cinderpelt told him that Longtail likes him? The answer is simple, Firestar becomes bi on the spot." - moonkitti 2023
8:13 my brother named our cat after shadow sight, it’s so strange to hear his name outside of my cat 😭
finally... fallenholly criticism in the main fandom...............
6:35
No one:
Not a single soul:
Moonkitti: "Crowfeather with yellow eyes"
Edit: Just noticed, She uses the Yellow eyes pictures everywhere for him... 😅
I think it’s because he was drawn with them in one of the guide books
In TNP he is pretty much always mentioned having yellow eyes except for like...three times (2 times saying they are blue and 1 time they aay they are green). He starts having blue eyes in PoT
Wasn't about to find pictures of solid black cats with blue eyes without Photoshop or stealing from some obscure page about cats that are born without skulls if you breed two of them together
@@Moonkitti XD
@@Moonkitti why don't like midnight and rock
this but moonkitti judges patrons wc headcanons
I love Bluestar x Yellowfang because YEAHHHH GAY OLD WOMEN!!!
"Fireheart would become bi on the spot"
Yes siiiiiiir! She spittin'
please talk about Sunbeam and Nightheart, i’m dying to hear what you think about it!
bro it is so funny popping back into your channel every once in a while just to watch a video or two, because its been SO LONG since ive read these books that i have no clue what is happening, its amazing
16:55 How did u find the most perfect picture for Sunbeamie? IT HAS THE MARK ON THE NOSE!
Im honestly surprised no one mentioned Ashfur and Brambleclaw since that was a rising ship I think
"outliers who live in a cave" made me laugh. graystripes georg
obsessed with the picture you picked for poppyfrost. she's perfect. I love her
Am I the only person who thinks One-eye the elder from the 1st series when I hear that name? Like I was confused for a hot minute when moonkitti was talking abt the Purdy x One Eye ship cuz I forgot the rude dawn of the clan cat was also named that
A ship I’ve always liked since I saw both the characters yet have barely heard anyone mention is whitethroat x littlecloud
Oh god when you said "and then Firestar wouldn't have had any reason to not make Longtail his de-" I really thought you'd say "daddy" 😭😂😂
This is my new favourite video on this channel. Hope you continue the series :D
"Would sandstorm be able to deal with like, the 11th joke about mistaking a salmon for a trout in the same night before having to relocate herself to the warriors den? 😂 That is absolutely hilarious to me. I also really like Tawnyflight (squilf x tawnypelt)
I think Bumble and Turtle Tail would work better if they properly supported each other in canon. When Bumble sought a place to stay after running from Tom, Turtle Tail jumped right on the bandwagon of “nope, you can’t stay here, you’re annoying and worthless to us, have you considered just going back to Tom?” It’s one of those ships that falls apart the second you reread the books.
That pissed me off so much- then Bumble freaking dies next.
Wake up Moon uploaded!
IM UP, IM UP-
@@ChaoticWatcher same- just noticed the upload lol
*wakes up* Time for another day of *communism*
OMG I used to watch your videos all the time when I was like 11 and now I'm reentering my Warriors phase, I had completely forgotten about you but I'm so happy you still make videos!! (I'm definitely not in tears)
The irl pictures are such a vibe
Gotta love chonky Poppyfrost
13:00 , its ashfur would like him cuz of the white paw
14:03 , this remindes me of a relationship dynamic that i saw: tuff warrior woman, and soft boy who worships her every move
I would love to see ur warrior cats headcanons and ships
I see SandxFirexGray with Fire as the poly person. Cause well, as you said, if someone had told him "Well, Sandstorm loves you, and Graystripe does as well" he'd just be like "Ok.." and set up a relationship with both. Gray and Sand would both equally love him but see each other only as friends and also sometimes be very annoying
I love how you use real pictures of cats to show how silly warrior cats shipping is
My problem with Raven x Barley was that my understanding of those two was that Barley was Bluestar's age (so like... 40-55 in human years?) and Raven was Graypaw's age (just barely 6 moons at the start of the book, so like, ten) Which is undebatably weird
Barley was said to have known Bluestar, but not that he was the same age as her. Ravenpaw was also nearly warrior aged when he left ThunderClan. Barley is probably only a year or so older than him. Not to mention that they most likely became mates a while after they started living together.
@@imaginarylivingbody7154 oh ok thanks, I've never read any super editions so I'd mostly guessed these ages based on vibes and implications, I'd always assumed that firepaw ravenpaw and graypaw were the same age because to me it just made sense, and Barley just came off as very old to me, kind of like how Moonkitti feels about Daisy, especially since he was Bluestar's friend (unless I'm misremembering)
@@beekeeper9540
He’s technically listed in the allegiances of a prequel super edition, but that contradicts his backstory of him and his siblings being born in BloodClan.
I can’t believe the OG of Jake x Tallstar wasn’t on this list.
This was such a good video. I would love a part two
I love the use of stock photos, it really brings me back to the old days