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  • @doctrfaustus1738
    @doctrfaustus1738 Před rokem +4049

    The appeal of Bluestar and Yellowfang to me is mostly just 'I think Fireheart's two moms should hook up'

  • @lillieampurra
    @lillieampurra Před 11 měsíci +570

    sand/fire/gray is very much sandstorm saying "yeah this is my husband's boyfriend. i don't like him that much but we hook up sometimes'" and graystripe saying "that's my boyfriend's wife shes pretty cool"

    • @mckenna8461
      @mckenna8461 Před 10 měsíci +23

      Very true

    • @Danmeilover69
      @Danmeilover69 Před 9 měsíci +26

      I have loved this ship for a long time and I love your take on this.

    • @jeritheweirdchild
      @jeritheweirdchild Před 7 měsíci +2

      Fr

    • @FaithBetta
      @FaithBetta Před 4 měsíci +14

      “It’s finally me and you and you and me and your friend Steve! Do do do do do do do Steve” 🎶

    • @KikitheArtCat
      @KikitheArtCat Před 2 měsíci +14

      I'm SandStorm
      this is my boyfriend, FireStar
      this is his boyfriend GreyStripe
      this is GreyStripes girlfriend SilverStream

  • @abigailclark4999
    @abigailclark4999 Před rokem +2157

    Crowfeather's picture being this round chubby boy when typical fandom depiction of him is lean and pointy and sleek is making me lose it

    • @billcipher8645
      @billcipher8645 Před rokem +144

      I mean, he is drawn as lean and sleek because that's how the books describe him (as far as I remember)

    • @jamescantthink
      @jamescantthink Před rokem +163

      lmao yeah, its a wink at the chubby amber eyed crowfeather official art

    • @sexygirlmax2019
      @sexygirlmax2019 Před rokem +6

      hes Smol

    • @yrthebest_.
      @yrthebest_. Před rokem +11

      he chonky

    • @Jay_Borger
      @Jay_Borger Před 11 měsíci +15

      he looks like a rotisserie chicken

  • @kat6249
    @kat6249 Před rokem +979

    Just a reminder, Stormcloud would stay up all night to be with Sparkpelt, for many days, to comfort her after Larksong’s death. He clearly cared about her.

    • @cloverbun2574
      @cloverbun2574 Před 9 měsíci +30

      They honestly make so much sense it hurts that they're not. I think Nightheart having some kind of relationship with Stormcloud as his step-dad, whether positive or negative, would have been a really great move too.

    • @IJustAnimateThatsTheJist
      @IJustAnimateThatsTheJist Před 9 měsíci +18

      ​@@cloverbun2574+
      To be fair there's still a chance that it may develop in the books. If I'm correct Nightheart and Sunbeam are Thunderclan cats (again for Nightheart) and it would be healthy for the books to have a good family ties resolution with Nightheart and his family. Stormcloud can even tie it together if the Erins know what they're doing.

  • @burcusphuc4910
    @burcusphuc4910 Před rokem +1927

    I haven't been in the Warroir cats fandom in nearly 3 years and coming back to this video is like getting clubbed over the head trying to remember who the fuck these cats are.

    • @Dosia142
      @Dosia142 Před rokem +16

      How could you come back to this particular video if you haven't been in the fandom for the past 3 years

    • @lilythearcticfox
      @lilythearcticfox Před rokem +181

      @@Dosia142 The CZcams Algorithm be like that sometimes. It's happened to me before

    • @koifur7379
      @koifur7379 Před rokem +24

      Bro its the same thing being behind in the books because you joined late, that's my problem

    • @i_ate_the_context
      @i_ate_the_context Před rokem +1

      Same

    • @honeybeehomicide6760
      @honeybeehomicide6760 Před rokem +16

      Same haven't read a book since bramblestars storm and oh lordy lol

  • @slavicandsapphic7446
    @slavicandsapphic7446 Před rokem +805

    “I believe in gay Toadstep so I can’t approve this” is an iconic moonkitti quote i feel

  • @quicksilveryt4000
    @quicksilveryt4000 Před rokem +798

    Cinderpelt: Hey Fireheart, did you know that Longtail likes you?
    Fireheart: *Instantly becomes Bi*

    • @Limenade8
      @Limenade8 Před rokem +23

      But the problem is when rusty joined Thunderclan longtail was a fully trained young warrior and as for rusty you couldn't exactly call him an apprentice yet since he just turned 6 moons so rusty was still a kit when he joined Thunderclan while longtail was a warrior

    • @soldiaz7261
      @soldiaz7261 Před rokem +91

      @@Limenade8 6 months is not a kit though. he objectively did not join as a kit, because he joined as a ‘paw. and most warrior pairings met while one was an apprentice. i mean, by arc 2 or 3 they’re very very similar age- and experience-wise. this isn’t my ship but making up “problematic” facts that are actively disproven in canon to argue with people is weird.

    • @Limenade8
      @Limenade8 Před rokem +8

      @@soldiaz7261 Yeah i know most pairs met when one was an apprentice but it doesn't justify those ships either

    • @dumbidiotbird2147
      @dumbidiotbird2147 Před rokem +28

      implying he wasn’t already

    • @Limenade8
      @Limenade8 Před rokem

      @@dumbidiotbird2147 implying he wasn't already what?

  • @cantsalvagethis
    @cantsalvagethis Před rokem +226

    the idea of firestar shrugging and just. changing sexuality. like actively changing sexuality is. REALLY funny to me.

    • @seineevee
      @seineevee Před 11 měsíci +30

      Abrosexual Firestar-

    • @AngelaTheKittypet
      @AngelaTheKittypet Před 11 měsíci +12

      @@seineeveei was gonna reply with that lmao-

    • @failingbisexual
      @failingbisexual Před 4 měsíci

      @@seineevee im adopting this as canon

    • @theMyRadiowasTaken
      @theMyRadiowasTaken Před 4 měsíci +9

      being gay isnt a choice unless youre firestar

    • @hatientacetlen4246
      @hatientacetlen4246 Před měsícem +1

      Being gay is a choice and Firestar should chose to be gay for Longtail or Greystripe or Onestar. Or chose bisexuality. I want him with a lot of other cats.

  • @Blixemi
    @Blixemi Před rokem +140

    47 seconds in and I'm sold. I want to steal "Mothpool is perfect" as a soundbite tysm

  • @kateb6699
    @kateb6699 Před rokem +682

    I love Bluestar x Yellowfang, both for the idea of that relationship being a healing experience for them and because it's conceptually funny to me for reasons I can't really articulate.
    I just love the thought of Bluestar seeing this old kind of smelly cat and being like 👀and immediately deciding to keep her in Thunderclan no matter the cost

    • @melanopygus
      @melanopygus Před rokem +77

      They're my favorite ship lol I love those old lesbians

    • @tfstarrynight
      @tfstarrynight Před rokem +91

      bluestar x yellowfang is the butch4butch warrior cats needs 😩

    • @fishbrain9591
      @fishbrain9591 Před rokem +61

      @@tfstarrynight You cannot contain my love for old, battle-scarred butches being in love and healing together

    • @laurenhenry5671
      @laurenhenry5671 Před 11 měsíci +11

      They’re so cute ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

    • @andistansbury4366
      @andistansbury4366 Před 5 měsíci +10

      Bluestar: *looks at Yellowfang* so you're also Fireheart's mom?

  • @i.j.dragonfly3123
    @i.j.dragonfly3123 Před rokem +129

    Firestar/Onestar gets an additional boost when you remember how Onestar treated his canon love interest. Being infatuated with a kittypet only to turn on his heels and reject them later because he's scared of judgement would be very in-character for him. Oh, the tragedy...

  • @CelesteTreecat
    @CelesteTreecat Před rokem +444

    Alderheart x Puddleshine gets a lot of its fuel from when they have to stay in ShadowClan together. Alderheart putting his life on the line (sort of, I don't really think Tigerheart's threats held much water) and living in an enemy camp to look after his friend is the sort of kickoff point a lot of ships would use. I feel like Alderheart brings a lot of Platonic romance on board in his hypotheticals though and I'm okay with that.

  • @limazy
    @limazy Před 11 měsíci +97

    "Shipping Alderheart is like shipping a piece of cardboard."
    I love that line

  • @3zra._.
    @3zra._. Před rokem +647

    Cody is leafpool’s bisexual awakening

  • @4LCOHOL
    @4LCOHOL Před rokem +285

    the only warrior cats shipping vid that doesn’t mention jayfeather x stick. nature is healing

    • @kelxey
      @kelxey Před rokem +31

      thjs brings me so much whimsy & joy for reals

    • @Bunny-ks1md
      @Bunny-ks1md Před 11 měsíci +17

      oh my god, you brought that back from the deep recesses of my brain

    • @Bunny-ks1md
      @Bunny-ks1md Před 11 měsíci +12

      I haven’t been an active fan since I was 14, I’m 22 now haha. Still has a special place in my heart.

    • @AngelaTheKittypet
      @AngelaTheKittypet Před 11 měsíci +16

      The nature sure healed jayfeather, the STICK healed him

    • @Silliest-guy-the-ever
      @Silliest-guy-the-ever Před 8 měsíci +3

      MY SHIP IS JAYxTHAT ONE GHOST STICK

  • @TheRibottoStudios
    @TheRibottoStudios Před rokem +432

    "They'll just really unceremoniously kill off the female character who's in the way of their ship."
    OR what they'll do is character assassinate that female character in order to set up character A with character B. Which I kind of like MORE for some reason? It's just absurdly entertaining but it is also concerning when writers do this option because it can completely turn a fandom AGAINST a character, or it can cause a fandom to COMPLETELY misinterpret a character which happens a LOT.

    • @Spidermonkey43
      @Spidermonkey43 Před rokem +37

      The second option can become annoying when these two characters are totally in love then suddenly she’s like “I dOnT kNoW iF i LiKe YoU aNyMoRe” out of nowhere (that or they just start arguing for no reason) it can be pretty annoying although sometimes it can be funny how obvious it is that the authors just don’t want to kill the character (bc we can’t have their love interest go through character development noo) so they just… destroy their character I feel like when I become an author I’d have so much fun with that 😂

    • @varibunn
      @varibunn Před rokem +29

      They also end up making the girl abusive in some way to push the boys together ugh

    • @Night_Willows
      @Night_Willows Před rokem +31

      I don’t get why they can’t just slightly change the relationship and make the canon love interest just a friend lol. The options are death or becoming a terrible person. And it’s not even just canon ships, I’ve seen people do that with members of other popular ships that compete with theirs. Like back when I was into attack on titan I read some Eren x Armin fic on wattpad and they made Levi Armin’s transphobic bully in high school (it was an au where Armin was trans.) And like?? Not only would Levi never do that but also he is like 30 so it’s funny that they put him in high school

    • @calliethewolfcat2183
      @calliethewolfcat2183 Před rokem +17

      I absolutely hate character assassination, and NOTHING in a story pisses me off more than that. Especially when it happens to a character I personally like.
      If you have to kill the character off or ruin them to make your ship work, then it isn't going to.

    • @TheRibottoStudios
      @TheRibottoStudios Před rokem +3

      @@calliethewolfcat2183 yyyyep

  • @_ScarlettNotFound_
    @_ScarlettNotFound_ Před rokem +623

    FINALLY,someone who realizes Fallen Leaves was possessive and rude.

  • @Mimikai4884
    @Mimikai4884 Před rokem +369

    I’m surprised ShrewXSquirrel wasn’t mention, since many people ship them, which I can see why, they’re both were apprentices around the same time and mention to be good friends and because it’s not BrambleSquirrel lol.
    Also I personally see Hollyleaf being aroace and I will forever think that.

    • @Spidermonkey43
      @Spidermonkey43 Před rokem +24

      Shrewxsquirrel? Hmm time for an au… also I 100% agree with aroace Hollyleaf.

    • @Mimikai4884
      @Mimikai4884 Před rokem +22

      @@Spidermonkey43 YESSS. Instead of Squirrelflight getting together with Bramblestar, she gets with Shrewpaw, who either never got hit by the twoleg monster or got hit, but survived.

    • @Spidermonkey43
      @Spidermonkey43 Před rokem +20

      @@Mimikai4884 and then Bramblestar just goes and dies bc who needs Bramblestar

    • @Mimikai4884
      @Mimikai4884 Před rokem +12

      @@Spidermonkey43 Rest In Peace, Bramblestar. You will be missed… *not*

    • @miawmiawmiawmi
      @miawmiawmiawmi Před rokem +3

      i love love squirrel and stormfur too!

  • @thatdangartistgrrl
    @thatdangartistgrrl Před rokem +430

    The most disgusting thing isn't whatever weird ship, but the fact that Moonkitti uses light mode discord.

  • @MysticMetaKnight
    @MysticMetaKnight Před rokem +259

    So.... would BrambleCrow unite and become the Ultimate Misogynist?

    • @seineevee
      @seineevee Před 11 měsíci +49

      MisogynistShipping /j

    • @jayford4589
      @jayford4589 Před 11 měsíci +30

      ​@@seineeveeThe ultimate toxic ship 😂

    • @copilotpikachu284
      @copilotpikachu284 Před 11 měsíci +20

      @@jayford4589they’re perfect for each other then lmao

    • @legrandliseurtri7495
      @legrandliseurtri7495 Před 10 měsíci +53

      Brambleclaw yelling and Crowfeather brooding would be like an unstoppable force meeting an immovable wall.

    • @Birbzz
      @Birbzz Před 10 měsíci +14

      LMFAOOO I HAE NEVER LAUGHED SO HARD ON A YOUTHBE COMMENT

  • @ironwolf5802
    @ironwolf5802 Před rokem +178

    I think the Blue Fang ship would have started out with a fight about kits but would be super close. Would be also hilarious thinking about them sasing FireStar till the end of time.

    • @mayayuki5032
      @mayayuki5032 Před 7 měsíci

      I can imagine the meme about monopoly
      Firepaw : maybe we should stop playing

  • @wolfieolfie
    @wolfieolfie Před 9 měsíci +22

    20:07 poly relationships don't have to be 100% romantic! firestar could love sandstorm and graystripe, gray could like fire, and sand could like fire, but they don't all gotta kiss !!!
    and also it could be a funny dynamic with sand and grey loving fire but sand and grey themselves absolutely HATING eachother. like a romcom situation

  • @countessspiritclaws5465
    @countessspiritclaws5465 Před rokem +100

    I do really like Rosetail and Snowfur, but personally I’ve always shipped Bluefur and Rosetail. Maybe it’s just because I’m a lesbian, but I read Rosetail as someone secretly, hopelessly in love with Bluefur. I think she’s constantly talking about crushes with Bluefur because she has a crush on her, and she tries to subtly get a feel for Bluefur’s feelings. I think she pushes Bluefur towards Thrushpelt because she’s being self destructive and she believes that Bluefur will never return her feelings. She watches his crush on Bluefur so carefully because she views him as competition, but in her mind he’s already won because she doubts herself so much.
    When Rosetail finds out that Bluefur is pregnant, her bizarre reaction is something I’ve always seen as the response of a cat who’s just had their heart broken. It’s weird that she just assumes that Thrushpelt is the father, but I think it’s because she was already so intimidated by him and convinced that he was going to win over Bluefur. It’s also very weird that she immediately goes to ‘congratulate’ Thrushpelt without getting permission or even confirmation that her hunch is true. However, I think that it’s her way of saying “you won, I hope you’re happy with her because she loves you and not me.”
    You could really view Bluerose as either being genuinely unrequited love or just love that Rosetail thinks is unrequited. Personally I do love the angst potential, but I also like to imagine an AU where Rosetail confesses and the two end up together, with Rosetail adopting Bluefur’s kits and helping to raise them.

    • @imissyourmom
      @imissyourmom Před rokem +19

      Bro, i don't even ship BlueRose but i love your ideas! I love your perception on rosetail and i think it fits very much. great job, i got invested.

    • @radiiclaws8068
      @radiiclaws8068 Před 11 měsíci +5

      Never thought of the ship name bluerose before now and i love it

    • @asthejayflies
      @asthejayflies Před 4 měsíci +2

      im kinda shipping agnostic wrt warriors but you just sold me on bluerose. i can get behind that story, id read that fic

  • @Lemonade_29
    @Lemonade_29 Před rokem +440

    The fact she's also giving us the "What would Warrior Cats look like in Real life" that some people search for in the entire community...
    Edit: Broo... That's the most likes I've ever got... Tysm, guys~

    • @jedi_cat_l4976
      @jedi_cat_l4976 Před rokem +7

      The sad thing is that there apparently isn’t a picture of a cat with their face half injured so Moonkitti had to just use a blinking cat for Brightheart.

    • @melanopygus
      @melanopygus Před rokem +13

      ​@@jedi_cat_l4976that's the opposite of sad

    • @waddle..666
      @waddle..666 Před 11 měsíci +12

      @@jedi_cat_l4976i get what you mean when you say “it’s sad” considering bright got done dirty even with her picture but at the same time i’m glad there’s no cat who went through any sort of trauma related action to look like her

  • @redracersbiggestfan
    @redracersbiggestfan Před 11 měsíci +37

    genuinely i love love LOVE bluefang because it’s just firehearts moms being all cute together and if it’s too boring for you? oh just add graypool! then it’s a polycule of old lesbian women who are all firehearts moms. i also totally subscribe to the idea that bluepaw and yellowpaw met at a gathering and started dating in secret because they’re from different clans and it was a teenage dating sort of thing where they snuck out to see eachother, but then when she got exiled from shadowclan she was just like “oh shit, lemme just go visit my old girlfriend from 45 years ago” and went to thunderclan territory purposely to see if she could find bluestar again and then they got happily married and never ever died.

    • @dali-dog
      @dali-dog Před 9 měsíci +4

      I’ve never given two braincells to any warrior cats fan pairing before now, but suddenly this comment is actually making me interested in writing this. I’m not going to, because I literally never finish writing anything, but it’s a really sweet idea lol

    • @jeritheweirdchild
      @jeritheweirdchild Před 7 měsíci

      ​@@dali-dogsame

  • @loki_is_tired
    @loki_is_tired Před rokem +144

    One of my favourites is BlueRose. I just love the idea that the reason Rosetail is so insistent on Bluestsr and Thrushpelt is because she’s in love with her. I love disaster lesbians.

  • @varibunn
    @varibunn Před rokem +116

    Shadowsight and Rootspring will always be peak to me because of how much potential the two had

    • @varibunn
      @varibunn Před rokem +40

      Like consider: the cat who can see ghosts versus the cat who is a ghost for half of his arc. Root feeling insecure about himself but grows in confidence thanks to Shadow boosting him up, which leads to Root becoming more tied to the plot as not only can he see Bramblestar, but Shadow is tied to Bramblestar's fate. Have the two work to solve the mystery together, there's some angst with Shadow being a ghost hakf the time and risking his life, all the while Bristle becomes ace or a lesbian and does all the heavy lifting for the two boys and lives happily as Thunderclan's newest deputy under Squilf. Good day /for fun

    • @miawmiawmiawmi
      @miawmiawmiawmi Před rokem +1

      YES.

    • @juliedillion3942
      @juliedillion3942 Před 11 měsíci +2

      ​@@varibunn TYSM FOR DOING GOD'S WORK‼️‼️‼️❤❤❤

    • @seineevee
      @seineevee Před 11 měsíci +3

      They are so canon to me

    • @yuuisanL
      @yuuisanL Před 7 měsíci

      REAL OMG i was looking for a comment like this.. also les bristle

  • @Niosesore
    @Niosesore Před rokem +145

    watching this video knowing very little about warrior cats is hilarious, i just have to photos of cats and their funky names and i'm like "yeah they dont fit each other, NEXT"

    • @bluesheep7
      @bluesheep7 Před rokem +50

      4/10, colours don't blend together nicely, and also not enough fluff. Next!

    • @Niosesore
      @Niosesore Před rokem +27

      @@bluesheep7 EXACTLY. This is the most fun thing I did all day ngl lmao

    • @killuazoldyck7442
      @killuazoldyck7442 Před rokem +6

      I love this comment 😂

    • @Jxzlmao
      @Jxzlmao Před 11 měsíci +6

      LOL same, dunno what a warrior cats is but this is funny to me idk why 💀

    • @killuazoldyck7442
      @killuazoldyck7442 Před 11 měsíci +6

      @@Jxzlmao warrior cats is a book series 😂

  • @sinwolfe4868
    @sinwolfe4868 Před rokem +76

    After Bramblestar’s storm I really thought Cherryfall x Stormcloud would happen due to how close the two get plus Bramblestar hints at the two possibly becoming mates and then it never happened

    • @vilmublues752
      @vilmublues752 Před 11 měsíci +10

      I think the writers literally just forgot it was a thing + RIP the Clan actually having new blood.

    • @marymccann3500
      @marymccann3500 Před 10 měsíci +1

      I always thought they were going to hook Frankie aka Stormpaw up with Lilypaw due to both of them losing their siblings that book and helping each other cope with the grief.

  • @TonySnacc
    @TonySnacc Před rokem +82

    I really hoped squirrelsol would have shown up just bc that ship is absolutely hysterical to me
    also, for your consideration: greypool/yellowfang/bluestar. the color co-parent polycule. I think the old women should have a weird, difficult-to-properly-label relationship that's just a bit too tender to be entirely platonic. But they are Not Dating. don't even worry about it. Oakheart is also there. He has a (small) crush on Thrushpelt because I think it would be Funny. all of this is happening in starclan in front of a mildly horrified stonefur and an ecstatic mosskit. do you see the vision.

  • @Rayneworld
    @Rayneworld Před rokem +45

    "The answer is simple: Firestar becomes bi on the spot" had me laughing so hard, it's very true.
    Also I loved all the silly stock photos, it reminds me of when I was like 10-11 and searching for picture to fit of my warrior cats rp OCs LMAO.
    Edit: I'd love to see another video of this sometime if you feel up to it! Very entertaining. Also I'm all for poly ships but I feel like most the ones we saw here weren't great lmao like... greystripe... crowfeather... I don't have any warrior cats ships but I kind of hope so see some fun poly ones eventually!

  • @Cali_wcGacha
    @Cali_wcGacha Před rokem +179

    Bluestar and Yellowfang is my comfort ship. Just two crazy old ladies who find comfort in each other 🥰

  • @brainmeat2330
    @brainmeat2330 Před rokem +47

    gray and fire will always be one of my faves. the way they act when they see each other in a light in the mist was cute and funny

  • @ophisidian
    @ophisidian Před rokem +95

    the way that warrior cat ships often can't avoid being related and/or cat a knowing cat b when they were an apprentice/kit

    • @bluesheep7
      @bluesheep7 Před rokem +7

      Fr

    • @Cenmeow
      @Cenmeow Před rokem +14

      literally ferncloud x dustpelt

    • @geministrial950
      @geministrial950 Před rokem +18

      Well yeah thats kinda what happens when you forbid any relationship outside the literal less than 600 characters in the same geographic area.

  • @chaseashley6775
    @chaseashley6775 Před rokem +68

    I wish there were more development for Brambleclaw and Stormfur as friends and foster brothers.

  • @QuicksilverStudios0w0614
    @QuicksilverStudios0w0614 Před rokem +124

    taking this opportunity to bring up my Leafpool x Sol au, because Sol was right about everything to do with StarClan and the writers had to make him do morally bad things in order to justify him being a villain. And StarClan mega screwed Leafpool over- They’re also my two favorite characters. I just like ‘em. So yeah, Sol convinces Leafpool to abandon her corrupt religion.

    • @lilaniloxi
      @lilaniloxi Před rokem +13

      that is a pretty interesting idea for an au actually

    • @QuicksilverStudios0w0614
      @QuicksilverStudios0w0614 Před rokem +4

      @@lilaniloxi thank you! hehe

    • @simratgill-pp5zk
      @simratgill-pp5zk Před rokem +12

      Thats cool! I have an au where leafpool gives up her kits to the twolegplace, cuz squilf refuses to take them/yellowfang doesnt lie about her being barren. sol sees it and is reminded of how he was abandoned to twolegs and he decides to take them in. Basically its an evil 3 au

    • @QuicksilverStudios0w0614
      @QuicksilverStudios0w0614 Před rokem +6

      @@simratgill-pp5zk That’s so cool!!!! I’d love to hear about that 👁️👁️

    • @mirosawanowak3427
      @mirosawanowak3427 Před 11 měsíci +2

      I hate this ship. Good au though.

  • @Answeredriddle
    @Answeredriddle Před rokem +115

    ‘Mothpool is perfect I have no critiques’ fantastic analysis A++++ 10/10 all I needed to hear

  • @Bee8467
    @Bee8467 Před rokem +66

    16:38 moonkitti says aro rights (no but seriously people should make more platonic relationships that are extremely close and important, just in general)

    • @Reincarnated_Pheonix
      @Reincarnated_Pheonix Před rokem +21

      Please 😭 my aromantic heart needs more cute platonic things

    • @Bee8467
      @Bee8467 Před rokem +10

      @@Reincarnated_Pheonix SAME

  • @CairoCreations
    @CairoCreations Před rokem +31

    I don’t really do shipping in this fandom but I got called a slur because I think Runingnose and Nightstar are cute together. This fandom is crazy man.

    • @_a_flyswatter_
      @_a_flyswatter_ Před 11 měsíci +7

      Agreed. This fandom can be very terrifying.

    • @Mx._M_o_t_h
      @Mx._M_o_t_h Před 11 měsíci +4

      Some people be crazy jeez (talking about the person who called you a slur like Jesus Christ)

    • @theMyRadiowasTaken
      @theMyRadiowasTaken Před 4 měsíci +4

      IM SORRY THAT HAPPENED BUT THIS IS THE FUNNIEST THING EVER TO ME

  • @MambaDraws
    @MambaDraws Před rokem +108

    I like thinking Jayfeather is aromantic and I really don't think he'd do good with anyone anyway. Mousewhisker x Minnowtail is cool

    • @mayfightu
      @mayfightu Před rokem +6

      I agree

    • @minecraftstar_
      @minecraftstar_ Před rokem +22

      Jayfeather is definitely on the aromantic spectrum in my eyes but I’m not sure he’s 100% aromantic (probably grayromantic) because of his time-travel relationship with Half Moon

    • @MambaDraws
      @MambaDraws Před rokem +21

      ​@@minecraftstar_ I have decided to either completely ignore Half Moon or just say Jayfeather has a hard time diferentiating between romantic like and platonic like. I have trouble with it so I never thought I was aro until recently when I realized everything I felt was platonic.

    • @aggressivelyme9657
      @aggressivelyme9657 Před rokem +22

      @@minecraftstar_ My headcanon is that Half Moon is his comp-allo crush because she is unattainable on like, 3 different levels (he's a medicine cat, time travel, she was actually dating his past life not him). So he tells himself that he's in love with her 'cause he thinks she's cool and there isn't the risk of it working out and him actually having to /act/ on any feelings.

    • @spaghetti_circle
      @spaghetti_circle Před 10 měsíci +2

      I live for AroAce Jayfeather

  • @Gold_Pup
    @Gold_Pup Před rokem +135

    Everyone will always be entitled to their own opinions, but Hollyleaf will always 100% be aroace to me.

  • @coyotix
    @coyotix Před rokem +17

    I can hear Moon's eyebrow raising when talking about Featherfern. "Why was SHE blushing, _HMMM?_ Is it because she's _PRETTY?_ "

  • @Asexual_and_fabulous
    @Asexual_and_fabulous Před rokem +26

    Personally, I really like the idea of Needletail x Alderheart. The way that the books described their relationship through Alder’s eyes just make it sound like he had a huge crush on Needle without even realizing his feelings, and their dynamic is cute. Needle is bold, outgoing, independent, and umafraid to speak up, meanwhile Alder is very anxious , soft-spoken and quieter. Idk, that’s just my opinion 🤷‍♀️

  • @lizardparty_
    @lizardparty_ Před rokem +58

    u summed up my thoughts on squirrelcrow very well. in my eyes they just would not get along. especially dont like it when brought up as an alternative to bramblesquirrel. like crow would Not be that amazing of an alternative 😭 he has a looottt of issues to work through. if squilf were to date anyone else at all id want it to be a happy and very healthy relationship. also LET HER DATE WOMEN INSTEAD

    • @Spidermonkey43
      @Spidermonkey43 Před rokem +7

      I’ve seen bramblecrow before and those two both have a whole lot of issues to unbox so hey maybe those two can be the “have extreme issues” couple

  • @boxyboyalmex2896
    @boxyboyalmex2896 Před rokem +43

    A rare-pair(not sure how rare it is) i have is purdy x midnight, but not as a romantic ship, i think that they got together because they liked hanging out with eachother and just being with eachother made them both happy, a silly old couple that could talk to eachother for hours but only eachother because only they can stand listening to one another. the platonic old couple that definitely drive kits to boredom with how much they talk(old couples are the best kinda ships, and if its a platonic ship it makes it infinitely better)

  • @treplox4318
    @treplox4318 Před rokem +46

    What? No Talltail x Jake? I'm gonna riot

    • @treplox4318
      @treplox4318 Před rokem +16

      Maybe I'm way too oldschool but man...

    • @thefoxandthehound81
      @thefoxandthehound81 Před rokem +17

      everyone already knows they’re cannon. no point in debating

  • @bluesheep7
    @bluesheep7 Před rokem +48

    My own crackship is Tigerclaw X time traveler Darktail escaping death and finding old Thunderclan.
    Both idiots just staring at eachother like, "uh, muscle man" and they start singing opera to eachother.

    • @batsnghostz
      @batsnghostz Před rokem +7

      Omg….. need this au

    • @kateb6699
      @kateb6699 Před rokem +10

      Your mind is so powerful

    • @oko5771
      @oko5771 Před rokem +3

      Clever mind you have here sir

  • @shelbcake
    @shelbcake Před rokem +31

    I'm probably one of the few who ship Mapleshade/Myler and if it wasn't for Mapleshade rejecting his friendship due to him being a kittypet, it would have been a much healthier relationship than any Appledusk ship

    • @miawmiawmiawmi
      @miawmiawmiawmi Před rokem

      this. i fucking love this ship

    • @Littlefox1213
      @Littlefox1213 Před rokem +11

      She still probably would’ve been clingy, but I’ll allow this

    • @shelbcake
      @shelbcake Před rokem +3

      @@Littlefox1213 I think she's allowed to be clingy especially as she met him AFTER her kits drowned and her mate revealed he was cheating on her XD

    • @Littlefox1213
      @Littlefox1213 Před rokem +11

      @@shelbcake Er- she was also clingy to Appledusk? And no, being clingy to your partner isn’t a good thing, especially if she believes that because she had Apple’s kits, he can’t and will never leave her and will always defend her, and that he’s only hers and hers forever.
      Being obsessed/clingy to someone is never a good sign, especially if you don’t allow anyone to come near them or interact with them.

    • @No-longer1
      @No-longer1 Před rokem +2

      @@Littlefox1213
      … I don't recall Mapleshade being particularly clingy or obsessive towards Appledusk in her novella? I mean she had the "if I can't have him you can't either" but it reads more like "I suffered alot of shit so you are going to suffer too". I don't think we get a whole lot of insight on what Apple and Mapple were like as a couple because it's largely unimportant to the tragedic nature of the story.

  • @catswork
    @catswork Před rokem +21

    i havent read a single book from this series in over 6 years and yet here i return clawing my way back like a deathly dehydrated animal

  • @Cali_wcGacha
    @Cali_wcGacha Před rokem +32

    "Toxic Redtail and Tigerclaw"
    ah. okay.

    • @austinh.
      @austinh. Před 11 měsíci +1

      that fact she had to say toxic (dat timing i scrolled down and saw this right when she said it)

  • @kwithcat
    @kwithcat Před rokem +12

    My favorite which I haven’t found anything on is just FireGray (Fireheart and Graystripe)
    Fireheart’s words here:
    Actually copy pasted from the books
    “But no cat could feel more strongly for Graystripe than Fireheart had done, for four long seasons.”

  • @greenteaandtattoos6903
    @greenteaandtattoos6903 Před rokem +53

    My favorite ship is GrayRiver - River Ripple (Riverstar) and Gray Wing. Do these cats only appear in the less-than-well-written prequel series? Yes. Do I still love them and the ship to death anyway? Also yes.

    • @Spidermonkey43
      @Spidermonkey43 Před rokem

      Why is it than everyone LOVES Dawn of the Clans? The second half of that series completely fell off and I feel like it’s like the Star Wars Prequels, it’s different and everyone is “nostalgic” over it.

    • @minecraftstar_
      @minecraftstar_ Před rokem +14

      @@Spidermonkey43I think it’s just because we’ve been looking at the Clans for 4 main series before that, so different groups, even though they _do_ become the Clans in the end, is kind of relieving

    • @jjsstikbotvideos4421
      @jjsstikbotvideos4421 Před rokem

      YES! I love them

    • @seineevee
      @seineevee Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@Spidermonkey43I think it’s mostly the concept people like, because the execution of it is less than ideal

    • @Spidermonkey43
      @Spidermonkey43 Před 11 měsíci

      @@seineevee mmm

  • @someoneoutthere3232
    @someoneoutthere3232 Před rokem +14

    Proposal: crowfeather × bramblestar. And then we just have to make sure they don't involve anyone else in it.

    • @imissyourmom
      @imissyourmom Před rokem +9

      Imagine the disaster Bramble x Crow x Ash would be

    • @Littlefox1213
      @Littlefox1213 Před rokem +2

      @@imissyourmom Yeah, leave me out of that

  • @AkiiDagii
    @AkiiDagii Před rokem +12

    I got a tinder ad before watching this 💀

  • @Lemonade_29
    @Lemonade_29 Před rokem +22

    3:11
    "Slim, Sleek Squirrel Lady"
    6:48
    "F l o o f y Squirrel Lady"

  • @koifur7379
    @koifur7379 Před rokem +27

    Bluestar x Yellowfang is one of my favorite ships despite lacking context. Both being mentally unstable, I feel like Yellowfang would help Bluestar off-camera and if i'm remembering right on-camera but I haven't read those books in awhile. I still love the concept since Yellowfang is my second favorite cat other than Jayfeather.

  • @SquilfstailTri
    @SquilfstailTri Před rokem +23

    About sand x fire x grey, I feel like it wouldn't work because sandstorm is the cat who needs constant reassuring and affection to fight back her fear of love fading. It's hard to explain but I feel like Graystripe couldn't be able to do that(not like Firestar actually does but at least sandstorm does sort of trust him as a friend too) and dating 2 catss in general will be stressful for her assuming she starts fretting about whether they both will leave her out or something

  • @Sunnyfall
    @Sunnyfall Před rokem +11

    Toadstep can be bi but he isn't gay. You would tear him from the other ray of sunshine, Moon? Are you so heartless?

  • @shnukyfan2008
    @shnukyfan2008 Před rokem +21

    I'm not particularly a SandxFirexGray shipper but I can understand it as someone in a throuple that's just me and two absolute clowns one being the person that enables and makes the other worse, you get used to it and start loving to watch them stay up all night coming up with different song parodies where the main joke is a 2012 YTP meme, that's what SandxFirexGray is and I've seen it I live in it so it's real

  • @Ebonyfire
    @Ebonyfire Před rokem +72

    An interesting format. And good thing you mentioned that it's okay not to like a ship/couple somebody likes and the other way around. Sometimes people really start fights over someone's opinion as if they care to not prove their point but change this opinion, eh.
    Anyways, it was nice to find out how I felt about these couples, too, cuz I've always been more of a person to criticise existing couples, once I thought about who I could ship I could barely come up with more than... three?😅
    So outta these ones I'd say I like and/or just interested in are:
    Onestar and Firestar.
    Sparkpelt and Stormcloud a little bit.
    Shadowsight and Rootspring. Which was a surprise to me. As well Firestar and Longtail.
    (Why is Ivypool and Fernsong a ship though? With Brightheart and Cloudtail if these are canon?)
    It was interesting to listen to your monologue, too, even if I often don't agree with your opinion.

    • @corvidaeae
      @corvidaeae Před rokem +7

      The exact meaning of "ship" depends on which circles of fandom you're in, but for a lot of people shipping is purely referring to the couple, not implying the canonicity. Canon ships are ships just the same.

    • @Ebonyfire
      @Ebonyfire Před rokem

      @@corvidaeae, okay then...

  • @phia4497
    @phia4497 Před rokem +22

    My one ship is from way back when and it was Jayfeather and Kestrelflight - I’ll never forget the time Jayfeather appeared in his dream and he’s completely friendly and doesn’t think it’s weird that he’s there.

  • @ezrahpeach5125
    @ezrahpeach5125 Před rokem +8

    13:22 the firestar bi on the spot im dying

  • @frtanimation
    @frtanimation Před rokem +67

    as a STERN crowfeather ship hater (love the character, hate him in relationships) im glad to see someone else go "maybe squirrelcrow isnt good for squirrelflight" because shes had too much of her life dedicated to what the toms want

  • @Rainer-fw7fd
    @Rainer-fw7fd Před rokem +25

    5:14, In my headcannon, always seen Holly as Aro, but each to their own.

    • @musicplaylists6718
      @musicplaylists6718 Před rokem +21

      You're right, now consider: aro lesbian Hollyleaf

    • @minecraftstar_
      @minecraftstar_ Před rokem +1

      @@musicplaylists6718_perfect_

    • @Rainer-fw7fd
      @Rainer-fw7fd Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@musicplaylists6718 She went out of her way to say to SQF that she thought mates were a waste of time, so idk man

    • @musicplaylists6718
      @musicplaylists6718 Před 11 měsíci

      @@Rainer-fw7fd yeah, aromantic allosexual

  • @spacecadet8612
    @spacecadet8612 Před rokem +46

    I could see Leafpool and Sorreltail solely because they both give off "free love" vibes- I don't see Brackenfur approving but we are disregarding him

    • @lilaniloxi
      @lilaniloxi Před rokem +16

      i dont see brackenfur not approving this,,, the dude's a nice, wet piece of cardboard he wouldn't care as long as sorreltail's happy in my mind

  • @Rebeccadoesstuff3232
    @Rebeccadoesstuff3232 Před 10 měsíci +9

    feathertail: exists
    ferncloud: *bi awaking*

  • @toastyblankets241
    @toastyblankets241 Před rokem +28

    Sigma BrokenstarxTigerstar 💪

  • @killuazoldyck7442
    @killuazoldyck7442 Před rokem +28

    "What if Cinderpelt told him that Longtail likes him? The answer is simple, Firestar becomes bi on the spot." - moonkitti 2023

  • @prpletoast_
    @prpletoast_ Před rokem +32

    Snowrose is actually a cute ship! i never knew it existed at all but that seems awesome! :D

    • @lindseylindsey9200
      @lindseylindsey9200 Před rokem +3

      Snowfur named Rosetail when they were both kits that doesn’t make it bad or anything I just think it would make this funny

    • @prpletoast_
      @prpletoast_ Před rokem +3

      @@lindseylindsey9200 I think it's pretty funny, and knowing that Thistleclaw did some bad stuff, Rosetail could just go "Hey" to Snowfur.
      And also considering that Thistleclaw is in the Dark Forest, they just go share their grief together.

  • @EaseeCheesee
    @EaseeCheesee Před rokem +16

    I love Bluestar x Yellowfang because YEAHHHH GAY OLD WOMEN!!!

  • @bloodonmysqueegee2120
    @bloodonmysqueegee2120 Před rokem +20

    I NEED to know your thoughts on Tawnypelt x SquirrelFlight, and Jayfeather x Poppyfrost
    Especially the former, I love the idea of Squilf just finding out Bramble's sister is a much nicer person who's also had mate/clan/kid dying issues (to a much lesser extent with tawny on mate problems but still) and just meeting up with her in the middle of the night so she can give tawny a little kiss
    anyways tawnysquirrel rights do you see my vision

  • @mimikyu__-
    @mimikyu__- Před 8 měsíci +4

    8:13 my brother named our cat after shadow sight, it’s so strange to hear his name outside of my cat 😭

  • @mineash2945
    @mineash2945 Před rokem +10

    finally... fallenholly criticism in the main fandom...............

  • @Lemonade_29
    @Lemonade_29 Před rokem +32

    6:35
    No one:
    Not a single soul:
    Moonkitti: "Crowfeather with yellow eyes"
    Edit: Just noticed, She uses the Yellow eyes pictures everywhere for him... 😅

    • @meeplol145
      @meeplol145 Před rokem +2

      I think it’s because he was drawn with them in one of the guide books

    • @ghostpelt
      @ghostpelt Před rokem +6

      In TNP he is pretty much always mentioned having yellow eyes except for like...three times (2 times saying they are blue and 1 time they aay they are green). He starts having blue eyes in PoT

    • @Moonkitti
      @Moonkitti  Před rokem +38

      Wasn't about to find pictures of solid black cats with blue eyes without Photoshop or stealing from some obscure page about cats that are born without skulls if you breed two of them together

    • @Lemonade_29
      @Lemonade_29 Před rokem +2

      ​@@Moonkitti XD

    • @jamietrites6696
      @jamietrites6696 Před rokem

      @@Moonkitti why don't like midnight and rock

  • @emmettrose5960
    @emmettrose5960 Před rokem +25

    I think Bumble and Turtle Tail would work better if they properly supported each other in canon. When Bumble sought a place to stay after running from Tom, Turtle Tail jumped right on the bandwagon of “nope, you can’t stay here, you’re annoying and worthless to us, have you considered just going back to Tom?” It’s one of those ships that falls apart the second you reread the books.

    • @meeplol145
      @meeplol145 Před rokem +2

      That pissed me off so much- then Bumble freaking dies next.

  • @catoncloudnine
    @catoncloudnine Před rokem +7

    this but moonkitti judges patrons wc headcanons

  • @eeveetemmie
    @eeveetemmie Před rokem +10

    Im honestly surprised no one mentioned Ashfur and Brambleclaw since that was a rising ship I think

  • @kiru_red4691
    @kiru_red4691 Před rokem +7

    I see SandxFirexGray with Fire as the poly person. Cause well, as you said, if someone had told him "Well, Sandstorm loves you, and Graystripe does as well" he'd just be like "Ok.." and set up a relationship with both. Gray and Sand would both equally love him but see each other only as friends and also sometimes be very annoying

  • @fennelherbbs
    @fennelherbbs Před rokem +3

    13:00 , its ashfur would like him cuz of the white paw
    14:03 , this remindes me of a relationship dynamic that i saw: tuff warrior woman, and soft boy who worships her every move

  • @danielbarnes1241
    @danielbarnes1241 Před rokem +9

    "Fireheart would become bi on the spot"
    Yes siiiiiiir! She spittin'

  • @stormflyy
    @stormflyy Před rokem +17

    please talk about Sunbeam and Nightheart, i’m dying to hear what you think about it!

  • @CoolattasLab
    @CoolattasLab Před rokem +50

    As a SquirrelCrow enjoyer, I feel it relies heavily on completely changing how you view Crow. Because canon looooves to make him possessive and gross to mollies. But leaning into his fierce loyalty to Windclan and general snarkiness/coldness as an apprentice makes for such interesting dynamics imo. I really fell for the ship while reading a TNP rewrite! Also love the "perfect no critiques" for Mothpool... very real. A big reason why I don't like romantic JayBriar is like, yes he was her primary caretaker... he also helped her mom with her birth 😭

    • @waddle..666
      @waddle..666 Před 11 měsíci +4

      i have a personal head canon that Crowfeather loved Feathertail as a friend, but romantically loved Squirrelflight and settled for Leafpool since they’re alike.

    • @seineevee
      @seineevee Před 11 měsíci +1

      Could you link the fic, by any chance?

  • @pincone7889
    @pincone7889 Před rokem +9

    A ship I’ve always liked since I saw both the characters yet have barely heard anyone mention is whitethroat x littlecloud

  • @cameron9087
    @cameron9087 Před 10 měsíci +3

    "outliers who live in a cave" made me laugh. graystripes georg

  • @Lemonade_29
    @Lemonade_29 Před rokem +23

    16:55 How did u find the most perfect picture for Sunbeamie? IT HAS THE MARK ON THE NOSE!

  • @seineevee
    @seineevee Před 11 měsíci +4

    *Sighs, quietly opens AO3’s tag search*

  • @starfinney6308
    @starfinney6308 Před 10 měsíci +4

    Am I the only person who thinks One-eye the elder from the 1st series when I hear that name? Like I was confused for a hot minute when moonkitti was talking abt the Purdy x One Eye ship cuz I forgot the rude dawn of the clan cat was also named that

  • @leafhoppery8817
    @leafhoppery8817 Před 11 měsíci +5

    I can’t believe the OG of Jake x Tallstar wasn’t on this list.

  • @McCakey
    @McCakey Před rokem +7

    I love AlderPuddle lol
    I really started to ship it because of that one scene where Puddleshine is really excited to see Alderheart
    Too bad Alderheart was busy

  • @katstronaut
    @katstronaut Před rokem +14

    Wake up Moon uploaded!

  • @dollybeagle
    @dollybeagle Před rokem +4

    The irl pictures are such a vibe
    Gotta love chonky Poppyfrost

  • @candy1257
    @candy1257 Před rokem +1

    bro it is so funny popping back into your channel every once in a while just to watch a video or two, because its been SO LONG since ive read these books that i have no clue what is happening, its amazing

  • @thenyan3095
    @thenyan3095 Před rokem +11

    5:00 thank you for this
    Hollyfallen sucks amen 🙏

  • @fatimaanimales
    @fatimaanimales Před rokem +5

    17:30 you should make a video about this ship and how the fandom and Cloudtail is very paternalist to Brightheart. He treats her horrible in Twilight, to the level Berrykit calls her ugly in front of him and he didn't say anything. I can't stand this ship, they put as the most beautiful just because a cool, handsome tom likes a scarred, ugly molly

  • @sicklygator
    @sicklygator Před rokem +21

    ferncloud x cody is EASILY my favorite ship. in the whole series. they must be around the same age, cody lost kits, ferncloud lost kits, cody helps ferncloud take care of birchkit. I just really wish cody could have stayed in the clan JUST so I could continue shipping them. stan codyfern

  • @silverrivers
    @silverrivers Před rokem +2

    obsessed with the picture you picked for poppyfrost. she's perfect. I love her

  • @emmaesta9444
    @emmaesta9444 Před rokem +8

    FernIvy is one of my favorite ships ever. I adore the idea that Ivy falls in love with being a mother bc it makes the loss of Bristlefrost that more heartwrenching. I like to think she loved it bc of the support her mate had for her. I love their dynamic although i may be biased bc they remind me of my bf and i. Im very Mentally Ill bc of trauma and he provides stability, respect, and comfort to me. I used to not want to have children at all but hes shown me that hes more than capable of fufilling duties with me which, sure, is the bare minimum but when you hear abt how rare it is for the bare minimum to be reached, you get worried. I like to think that Fernsong supports his wife in the same way by bf supports me and thats all i could ever want for Ivy

    • @leonineKelter
      @leonineKelter Před 5 měsíci +1

      That's really sweet :3 I'm glad you have such a good partner

  • @Iris_Greensnake
    @Iris_Greensnake Před rokem +7

    19:49 I was vibin and then I saw the photo for echo mist and died ITS SO FLOOFY

  • @Avery_Fall
    @Avery_Fall Před rokem +11

    "Would sandstorm be able to deal with like, the 11th joke about mistaking a salmon for a trout in the same night before having to relocate herself to the warriors den? 😂 That is absolutely hilarious to me. I also really like Tawnyflight (squilf x tawnypelt)

  • @VenusianVenus
    @VenusianVenus Před rokem +6

    Cody was leafpools queer awakening