The Beatles - Love Me Do - The History of the Original 45 Version
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- The UK 1962 red label 1st pressing of 'Love Me Do' is one of their best sounding UK 45s. In this video I find out about how and why the original version went missing and which pressing from the last 40 years sounds closest to the original. Stick around for the the 'Coming Next...' teaser at the end!
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It still amazes me that someone could just throw out session tapes or a master tape. I wouldn't have the heart to do it. Even if the recording was by some obscure artist. I'd give the tape to the artist, or take it home, rather than destroy it.
Tape is expensive. Destroying it can also mean that they just used the tape for another recording so it could've been just be overwritten.
@@PassCookie Interesting theory, but the original studio master tape would probably have contained edits, and therefore most likely unsuitable for re-use.
Keep in mind that in 1962 EMI had no idea of, or concern for, historical preservation of their pop recordings in general, and certainly not for the first record by some unknown and untried new rock 'n roll combo from up north. Once the master tapes had been used to make the metal stampers, their usefulness was finished, and since studio quality tape was expensive, they certainly had a financial incentive to simply reuse it. As for giving the tape to the artist, remember that EMI owned the recording, so it was theirs to do with what they pleased. Ownership of master tapes is one of the pillars of the music industry's power, over which even which major artists have to fight their labels for control. (The Beatles successfully did so.) Masters are like gold, and EMI would never just give the tapes away even if they didn't plan to use them, lest the Beatles take "Love Me Do" to some other label and possibly cut EMI out of possible revenue. In any event, once the Beatles recut "Love Me Do" with Andy White on drums it was a moot point, the new version replaced the now-obsolete Ringo version. From EMI's point of view, they'd released an inferior recording and now that mistake had been rectified, record buyers would never notice the difference anyway, and everyone could move on with life and business.
@@moogyboy6 I respectfully disagree that EMI had no interest in the preservation of their recordings. They hold one of the world's largest archive of mastertapes, 78 metal shells and historical documents,
@@tomkent4656 To his credit, he said they didn't have any interest in preserving their POP acts (which is true, going by this video).
The Canadian & Swedish EMI affiliates received the Ringo version of "Love Me Do" as a UK vinyl single. The Canadian & Swedish affiliates never had a tape dub. This is what I was told by EMI executive Mike Heatley, whom I met several times at the old Machester Square office back in the late 1980's and early 1990's. In fact, Capitol of Canada never dubbed the vinyl single to tape. The single played on a turntable simultaneous with it being cut to lacquer on a nearby cutting lathe. This procedure occured at an RCA Victor Studio in Toronto, supervised by Capitol of Canada executive Paul White. Some have suggested that the present-day source for "Love Me Do"(Ringo version) is a Swedish single.
Great info. Thanks for sharing.
Strange that many people seem to think that Ringo didn't play on the first single but he DID on the first pressing anyway, its just that the later repressings use the Andy White version. There is even the Pete Best version, too.
The first song that made me fall in love with the Beatles music.
For those who don’t know, the two versions can be easily identified by the presence of Ringo’s tambourine (Andy White on drums-Please Please Me version) or lack of tambourine (Ringo on drums-single version).
These videos are fast becoming absolute must-watches when they show up in my notifications! Am loving these deep dives into different pressings & versions
Glad you're enjoying them, Daniel. Stay tuned, there's many more to come.
I have become totally addicted to these videos,"informative and entertaining" as they sat!
Fascinating video! One bit of correction: the Canadian "Love Me Do" single was dubbed from a Parlophone 45. Capitol of Canada never received a tape from EMI. Paul White was quoted in one of Bruce Spizer's books as this was common practice for many of their English releases.
Thanks for the info!
Yup, so the rarity collection is a needle drop of a needle drop!
I'm just a casual Beatles fan but the history of that single was very interesting. 🤘😈🤘
An amazing history lesson in Beatles history. As a record lover it was great to learn so much about this 45. Thanks
Glad you enjoyed it
Hi Andrew, by pure luck, I came across a copy of the original 1962 U.K. red label copy from an early pressing run (according to the initial printing stamper information in the deadwax area) at a record fair here in Germany in the mid 1990's and, though it was obviously coming from a jukebox, was very dirty and had been played quite a lot over the years, after I cleaned it up, it sounded still very good in every bit you discribed that disc in your video. So I agree with you , because for me, this was and still is the best sounding master of this song. By the way, this "Ringo on Drums" version from 1962 was also used on the original german Odeon single of " Love Me Do" c/w "Please Please Me" ( Odeon O 22 996 - the A-side matrix being 7XCE 17144, just like on the first 1962 original red label single and the 1963 black label re-print from the U.K.) This single came out in Germany in mid-March 1963 (the white label test pressing exists with a stamped on date of March 4th, 1963). The same version of the song was also released in Germany again in October 1963 on the german Odeon-EP of "The Beatles Hits" (catalogue number: Odeon O 41 598 ). So, what I find interestng about it is the fact, that the german "The Beatles Hits" -EP, though otherwise having the same tracklisting as the U.K. version, still contained this first version of "Love Me Do" even though it was released a month later than its british counterpart, released in September 1963 that already contained the newly recorded version with Andy White on drums! Ever since the first attempt of re-releasing this recording on the 1980 Capitol "Rarities" album I've ask myself, if EMI-ELECTROLA still owned a dubbed-copy of their March 1963 sub-master tape for the german Odeon Mono-single release or if EMI in the U.K. ever asked for it in the first place in Cologne. Was the U.K. parent company in London aware of the fact, that they obviously once must have send a copy for mastering a german single or that such a tape might even still exist in some german EMI-tape archive by then. Well, who knows?
It's possible that a German tape still exists but as you say, who knows...
i'm amazed these videos don't have more views
Your videos are so greatly informative, love them a lot and it’s great to see all the records!
Thanks so much, Dan.
Holy cow! I gave away a near mint copy of the 62 single not realising it could never be reproduced from the master tapes!
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Great video! Very detailed review. Little sad that newer cuttings never approach 1962 level. Even if the master tape survived by now it would demand a lot of processing because of its age and undoubtedly it would suffer from sound dynamic range compression during mastering (according to modern recording studio “fashion”). And that certainly increasing multiple times value of the first press!
Hi Andrew. I enjoy your videos and the all the detail you put into the comparison of Beatles records. Look forward to seeing more.
I’ve really been listening to this song a lot especially comparing the album version to the single and various remasters
All I ever thought about, “ Love Me Do” was,, I like the one without the tambourine.
I knew it was recorded twice, but didn’t know more than, there were 2 different drummers.
At least, having “Mono Masters”, I know I at least have the original.
Let's assume you have 15.000 euros in your bank account to spend and you come across a mint stereo first pressing gold label Please Please Me and you say "I don't want to buy it... I'll buy a car instead replacing my old one"... Now consider... How many times during your lifetime you'll have the chance to replace your old car and how many times you'll have the chance to come across that specific Beatles record?
The moral of this comment is... There is no "I don't want to buy a precious Beatles record" there is only "I can't afford to buy it"...
These videos are so impressive and a must-watch! Your knowledge and presentation skills are superb. I learn such a lot from them so please keep making them!
Thank you! Glad you like them. A new one is out tomorrow (Saturday 10/10).
Well done, Andrew! I have an original Canadian single of Love Me Do (which to my ears sounds different than the version on the US Rarities). It is the one of the early pressings with the hand written matrix 7XCE 17144 with no extra numbers added to it (my other copy, a later 64 pressing 7XCE 17144-4 doesn't sound as hot). The version on Rarities sounds weak and sterile to me in comparison. I have never heard the original red single pressing (still on my want list sadly) but I imagine the sound from the original first pressing Canadian single is closer to the UK version than the US Rarities. However when I compare the version from the 2019 singles box the bass seems fuller on the 2019 version. Amazon had the singles box on sale so I finally ordered it last week (based on your video on the box) and happy I did. If EVER you need Canadian pressings to do comparisons, do not hesitate to contact me :)
Thank you, Christopher! Interesting to hear your analysis of the Canadian 45. Let me know if you come across another decent copy. Glad you got a good deal on the singles box, it's underrated in my opinion.
Bonjour. Hi . The Canadian Love Me Do singles it’s the the Ringo take on drums “no tambourine” . It can’t sound the same it not the same drummer and it a different take. I got tow Love Me Do Canadian singles in very good condition the February 1963 and a 1964 , booth sound the same . In Canada we are the first in North America to have a Beatles record . Bye André
@@andrechamberland3966 Andre, to clarify they both the Ringo version, just re-cuttings of the same single, which means they cut different lacquers and could sound sonically different and in my humble opinion they sound different.
Great Video, once again. I have the original red label copy with sleeve, Record is not in great condition, but playable, and still sounds good.
Hi Andrew, I have recently become aware of your channel and am now thoroughly addicted to it. Today I was digging for info about the 12" Single of 'Love Me Do'. I found this piece on p35 of the November '82 issue of the Beatles Monthly book written by Mark Lewisohn. It says:' ' Twelve-Inch 'Love Me Do' on the way' - Astounded by the very high initial chart entry (no 14) of the 'Love Me Do' single and picture disc, EMI are releasing a special 12" version on November 1st (Parlophone 12R 4949).... The whole of the B side will be given over to the rarer 1st take of 'Love Me Do'. Although the original master recording of that track was destroyed back in 1963, EMI have not had to resort to using the inferior American 'Rarities' version. Instead they've been able to cut a brand new master pressing courtesy of a pristine quality tape recently supplied to them by keen Beatles fan and Beatles Book reader Mark Cousins!'
I have a pressing of the version with Andy White doing the drums
It's styrene and from Tollie Records
Also very bass heavy
It's a strange pressing
Great vídeo, Andrew! You've got a huge knowledge about the technical aspects of the records. I really like that.
Glad you enjoyed it, Carlos.
I first heard Love Me Do on Radio Luxembourg and thought it was different from any other record, I was 9 years old, in those days Radio Luxembourg was the only station where you could hear pop music on a daily basis in the UK but only at night as the signal was very poor.
i am not usually so interested in such detailed information about releases but you video was rather fascinating to me. i have subscribed and look forward to more.
Glad you enjoyed it!
That R4714 cockup was unforgivable but I can imagine how it happened. A young graphic designer was told "recreate this label, NOW" and tossed a copy of the Matt Monro record on their desk. The graphic designer did as they were told and then was told to type over the Matt Monro details with the details for the Love Me Do single. Which they did for the titles, composer, publisher and artist. Then that same boss would start jumping up and down that there was no place for the new copious rim text or the new EAN number. So they got them to "sort that out". Then, with time running out, that same boss taking one last shufty saying "change that 4714 to 4949. Now get it out." Except the beleaguered graphic designer, who was scared into only doing literally what he's told, and because no one even spent any time explaining to him that the 45-R number was even a catalogue number, only changed it on the A Side label that boss man was looking at. So left the other 4714 alone. After all he's been brought up to believe the EAN number is the only catalogue number.
Incidentally, I wrote to EMI in the late 2000s asking for information about their catalogue numbering systems, in particular their international numbering system that started with C numbers but also any information they had about the various prefixes used by EMI UK labels. I received a letter back saying that they were sorry, but they did not hold that kind of information and that I should be advised that catalogue numbers are just the bar code numbers and that "they have no meaning, they are simply random numbers"! WTF!
Another excellent video Andrew, thank you.
Thank you, Darren, glad you enjoyed it
I love this single. I have a first pressing with tax code wozt in the push out center and stampers 1/p and jr (journalistic review) and a ZT code in the dead wax. I love the history of it. Before all the information was out I remember asking you and you helping long long long time ago. Thank you.
I lbloody love this channel !
I have an original 1964 Australian pressing of Love Me Do (b/w I Saw Her Standing There - which was actually considered the A side). I wonder which version of Love Me Do is on the Aussie single? It's sacrilegious that someone destroyed the original tape featuring Ringo on drums,
The NZ release of the same 45 Love Me Do/ I Saw Her Standing There, has the LP version (Ringo on Tambourine) so I imagine the Aussie one would be the same.
Honestly I love all the videos you've about about The Beatles records! you have a great wealth of knowledge! The only thing I don't like is the visuals of the sound waves. It's a shame that CZcams has to have the rules they have, because I would love to hear the examples along. with the visuals.
Another great and informative video, thx!
Thanks, Robert, glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks,Andrew-Ive been into record collecting since I was 2!!You name the groups and artists in Rock and R'nB on 45s and also LP's,I've probably had them.Mybuddy in North New Jersey helped get me into the Parli copies on the lads back in the early 2000's.Lp wise.I had the UK 45's andEp sets already together back in the 90's.Between him and you,Andrew,yes,definitely let me know if we can work some deals!Keep me informed.One that has always eluded me is the Hayes(in-house)EP print font copy of Hold Your Hand!Seen it in pictures,but the only copies I could ever get were the usual Decca/Orioles,which was the exclusive forCant Buy Me Love,of course,but was,I considered,the alternate or farmout for Hold Your Hand,knowing it was initially pressed in the Hayes factory.Let me know on that too,if you can find a nice one!!Cheers!
WOW this was just fascinating !! And I do have all of the examples you did show . Except the UK first one . So this video was just great !!!!
Thanks for watching, Brad. Glad you enjoyed it!
@@Parlogram it was just great !!!!
@@Parlogram my fave love me do is please please me and the past master
My personal preference is the initial pressing with Ringo at the drums.
Thanks Andrew. Very informative.
Thank you, Bob. Glad you enjoyed it.
Thoroughly enjoyed the comparisons shown. That red Parlophone label with silver writing looks gorgeous. What a shame the suits screwed up the 20th anniversary 12 inch. It could have been something marvelous. Thanks again for making yet another awesome video. Cheers from Australia
Thanks again, Steve. Glad you liked it.
I admire your attention to details
Brilliant Video thank you!!
Danny
Glad you enjoyed it
A fascinating story for any Beatlephile.
I find it odd, but I often think (or dream) about time traveling to 1962 and stealing the master or something. Although, if I tried to give it back to Apple, they might think it’s a fake! Nice video.
Another much appreciated video, Andrew. See you, Nelio.
Thanks again, Nelio. Glad you enjoyed it
I bought a first press of a (Andy White) US VJ owned Tollie 'Love Me Do/PS, I Love You' 45 rpm about a year ago. It plays through without any skips, but it isn't the best of copies. But still, I am happy that I have this wonderful piece of musical history. Even more so because it is The Beatles.
Fab Andrew keep it up my friend love it Dave.
Cheers, Dave 👍
Great info!
All in all,as well,the Ringo version has been in existence for a lot longer here in the US and Canada since '63 than most fans realize.In fact,there is probably more copies of the Canadian swirl floating around both countries since then,that a lot more US and Canadian collectors over the decades have been aware of this first mix,having the swirl Canadian in high circulation due to heavy demand in late '63 in Canada,then when VJ was forced to remove it off the Introducing Lp in late Jan.'64,the demand was overwhelming for it when Beethoven(72133)and All My Loving(72144)were heavily imported here in the US in March '64.Love Me Do charted to no.25 on Billboard before the US Tollie version took over,so,thru the decades,more of these Canadian Capitols have shown up here and in Canada well enough that I'm certain that more of these exist than the UK red and subsequent black copies combined!This mix was pretty well established here,certainly not forgotten-too many copies floating around over here to have been unnoticed over the decades,that's for sure.Ive had at least 10 or 12 of the swirls in collections over the past 40 years!
Very interesting information, Ron. Thank you!
Very interesting. I learned something here.
I have several early Beatles singles on Odeon (Green Label) from the "Please, Please Me" album. Two songs per side, 45 r.p.m.
I met Pete Best in 1987. During our conversation, I asked him if he had had any input into the early Beatles' songwriting efforts. He said, "No; that was John and Paul's business." However, he did say that when they were in the earliest rehearsals of "Love Me Do," everyone agreed that it just needed something. He told me that it was his suggestion that John play the harmonica (harp). But that necessitated Paul singing, and that is why Paul sounds a little unsure of himself on that song.
Very good!
It would be nice to find a channel in Portuguese (I'm Brazilian) with this level of information. But using translation subtitles, you can still get a good advantage. Thank you
Obrigado por assistir, Cláudio!
I am so happy to have 3 versions of it from 1962, one of them the Original with ZT tax code... I am set. Great video
Congratulations & thanks for watching!
I do not have the money to buy an original nor do I have the desire to hunt out rare singles mostly I just pick up whatever I see at a decent price in the wild but I love your videos
I absolutely love all three versions of love me do they are really great it’s too bad that I am I got rid of the original master tapes of the original version of love me do they should’ve kept it.
What is interesting is not let me deal with one of the songs that was number one in America and I think they used the album version of it which appears on the Beatles ones and the red album 1962 to 1966
Did you know that there is an earlier version on the Beatles anthology?
And did you also know that capital records refused to sign the Beatles in the first place there’s a guy by the name of Dave Dexter Junior abilities he was more into jars than in rock ‘n’ roll so of course capital records passed on the early Beatles singles and I think all three versions sound really good, even though the best drumming is sloppy in places but it’s still a great song.
Thanks for your comment,Andrew.Ive been into the lads since'64, and have had 6 major Beatles collections(well,re-collections)since the late 70's).Forced and business capital selloffs have kept me from keeping it intact,suffice to say,I intend to keep my 7th go-round,the 5th on ,included all the UK And U.S.pressings-near mint.I intend to collect the same this time,too.Hopefully I get to hold on to this run!!!
Good luck on your latest round of collecting, Ron. Let me know if I can help you in any way. I've always got lots of UK pressings coming in: www.parlogramauctions.com
This is fantastic! Have you done a video about the 1980 Capitol 'Rarities' LP? I also loved the boot called 'Casualties'. :) Thank you!
It's ironic that the 2019 version came out on a reproduction of the original Tollie label, because the version issued on that label in.the U.S. as a single in 1963 was of the Andy White version. I had a friend of mine who scored a well-worn copy and thought he had the original with Ringo on drums, but he didn't. I had a better stereo than he did and when I played it I could hear Ringo's tambourine, the dead ringer that it was the Andy White version. Tollie was a subsidiary of Vee-Jay, the Black-owned Chicago-based label that issued the Beatles' first three singles and the "Please Please Me" LP, retitled "Introducing the Beatles" and with "Please Please Me" and "Ask Me Why" deleted.
Another top video. Loving the technical details you share with us. Does anybody really know why the original master tape was destroyed??
Perhaps because they re-recorded the version included on the LP. Thus feeling they had a superior version
I've got a feeling [heh-heh!] that the twin track tapes might just have ended up in a certain deceased recording engineer's cupboard.
I live in Hong Kong and have two copies of "Love me do" single which was pressed in India with the Parlophone black and silver label. These two singles were purchased by my sister back in 1964, not second handed. It is the Ringo Starr drumming version. The weird thing is that the information on the label re the publishing date of the recording is 1964, "Recording first published in 1964". It seems to me that "Love me do' was not released in Asia (at least in India and HK) back in 1962 because I also have "From me to you/Thank you girl" and "She loves you/I'll get you" singles which were also pressed in India, but their publishing year stated is 1963, which is the correct publishing year of these songs, do you have any information in this aspect.
Hi! Thanks for all your vids. Relly like them. COuld you please do a MFSL vs original stereo? Including MMT either as original UK EP or the 1976 UK LP. Thanks a lot
What do you think of the versions on the Past Masters CD editions ?
Personal fact: 20 years later from the 4th September session, I was born!!!
Hey,Andrew-this is Ron Martin from Pennsylvania-near the Delaware River,to be exact.Im the one involved with that Capiphone project.I first discovered the Ringo version a Canadian swirl original in 1980,not long before it came out on Rarities.The difference is the vibrancy of the vocals on the original reds,as I have had no less than 3 of the Parli's,including a JR press,none of which had the left-justified writer credits,or the lack of the "Made in....."disclaimer.Yes,that's what I noticed the most,although the P.S.I Love You side is as quiet on the Canadian as the orig.red.Reason being,the bass needed to be lowered so as to keep the stylus from jumping-yes,even at that time,the lads were having trouble with the cutting engineers'worries.Note the decreased volume at the song's end!It's there!The '64 Tollies are the normal as intended,with the bass deeper and sharp ending,volume-wise.IncidentallyAndrew,you might not be aware,but,the 1992 Capitol Juke series(30 titles in all)also included the Ringo version on the copies issued-on black vinyl and the "accidental"limited Red vinyls as well
Fascinating details, Ron. Thanks for sharing.
Hi Andrew. I don't know if it was pointed out before but the Canadian Capitol single of "Love Me Do" ( 72076 ) was manufactured from a vinyl dub. Paul White of Capitol Canada received a UK red label stock copy of R 4949 and took the 45 to RCA Studios in Toronto to be transferred to tape. This tape was used to cut the Canadian single. I believe Capitol of Canada repressed this several times until 1966, with the original 1963 pressing made to a very small run. All Beatles singles in Canada up to and Including "She Loves You" were all made from needledrops of UK singles.
As for MY favorite sounding Ringo "Love Me Do", my choice would be the needledrop prepared by Dr. Ebbetts for his (unofficial) "U.K. Singles Collection" disc. Doc E. states that he used a mint original red label pressing and did a direct transfer to digital, with no tape intermediate. I wish Sean McGee at Abbey Road would have sought out a mint 45 and did a fresh hi-res digital rip, instead of using the vinyl dub-to-tape version used on all issues since '82. I've not heard the 2019 yet but again, I'm assuming its from the tape dub in the EMI library.
Of course, please correct me if I am wrong or misguided here. I'm only human and not a professional Beatle archivist.
Thanks for the info about he Canadian discs. It puzzles me why Abbey Road can't get a decent sounding transfer from an original UK 45.
Sean Magee, not Sean McGee.
Hopefully we’ll get a really good release this year that addresses these issues. I have the 1982 12” and the 1980 Rarities album. Both versions of Love Me Do sound dull so I’m surprised to learn that it ought to sound so much better.
There's one more. The 1992 30th anniversary reissue set, on both 7" 45rpm, same picture sleeve as the 1982 issue, and two different CD issues (one in a jewel case, one in a digipak.) They all use the then-standard digital masters from the Please Please Me and Past Masters CDs. My copy of the 45 had a moulded label, and it was such atrociously thin vinyl by then that the record split into two one day when I was trying to get it off the turntable.
In my opinion you should have included the 2009 mono box CD as well
Excellent research. Well done. Could you do a video on the original 45 of "From Me To You"?. I have an Australian first pressing on purple Parlophone. To my ears it sounds better than any other vinyl (or CD) version I've heard.
Great suggestion Colin, I will check it out. Thanks for watching.
Every mastering of From Me To You on CD sounds terrible, thin and harsh, with the exception of the CD EP box set, which is reasonable, and closer to the Parlophone 45 I got in 1963 (which my sister swapped for a Bachelors LP with a friend in 1968.) Still a sore point.
Very informative video. I have two red label UK Parlophone copies of Love Me Do. Both copies have "ZT" in the dead wax area with a "1" under the ZT. One of the copies has a "P" above the ZT and a "PT" in the center knock out area and no "Made in Gr. Britain on the label. The other copy has "Made in Gr. Britain on the label. Which is the earlier pressing. Thanks for reading.
The earliest pressings of ‘Love Me Do’ would have had a ‘ZT’ purchase tax code which came into effect in April 1962. The ‘PT’ code was introduced in November 1962. The ‘Made in Gt. Britain text seems to be fairly random. Thanks for watching.
@@Parlogram Fab video! I'm kind of in the same boat as 'Sgt Pepper', the center of my copy has PT but the dead wax contains ZT with details similar, including the small 1-looking mark under the ZT. So this would be a post-Nov62 pressing I take it? Might it still be pre-63 I wonder...There is a great page linked from the 45cat entry for this which breaks down all the various early pressings, worth checking out. Thanks again for the video, just subscribed, because, Beatles vinyl!
Thanks Andrew for another highly informative video. Just to be sure I understood correctly that the red/silver label is the Ringo version and not the Andy White version.
Hi Gordon, The 1962 red & silver 45 is the Ringo version. The 1982 red & silver issue is Andy White.
@@Parlogram Thank you Andrew. SO the Ringo version is the rarer of the two? Any idea what the sales of the 45 were?
@@gordont.8958 Ringo's is the most desirable because it's on a 1st press. The '82 charted higher, but I don't have sales figures.
Having had the US Rarities album, it was well known that Love Me Do had been mastered from a 45. However, the first pressing didn't say Canadian 45.
2:19 - I love that label design. I also love the original LP design, it looked very regal to me, and the yellow and black one after that was cool, too. But my preferences are the red and regal labels. It was a nice touch that the reissued albums, 2012 and 2014, carried the original design for Please Please Me. EDITED - It is so hard for me to believe the 2014 mono reissues are now out of print and probably worth as much as the original pressings.
At 2:24, the black label with silver printing came out later around 1963 in which it remained until the 1970’s. When Tamla Motown was formed in 1965, the black label and silver printing remains the same, but it was completely different than the Parlophone, because both Parlophone and Tamla Motown were part of EMI.
The very first single for Tamla Motown was “Stop! In the Name of Love” by Diana Ross & the Supremes when it was one of their #1 hits here in the US originally on Motown before it sent the US recordings to the UK and pressed it at Abbey Road Studios and got it done. The 45 of the UK single looks exactly similar to what it’s done on the Parlophone label and the text with the “Broadcasting and Copying” disclaimer was at the left and right side with “Made in Gt. Britain” on top and “EMI Records Limited” on the bottom.
Tamla Motown was the first Motown label to distributed in the UK when all of the US Motown artists brought into the UK in early 1965, just a year after the Beatles brought to the US, and it became an R&B and soul label for the UK market.
Tamla Motown did put out a ton of R&B and soul singles and albums from various US labels like Tamla, Motown, Gordy, Soul, and VIP along with other Detroit Indy labels like Golden World and Ric-Tic which were both folded into Motown by the end of the 1960’s were on Tamla Motown. One of the first Tamla Motown UK singles and albums, it had the “Sold in UK” underneath the spoke on the spindle hole where it attached to the 45’s. That was used until 1969 or 1970.
@@Musicradio77Network I had no idea Tamla Motown existed in the U.K. Thanks for that info. I wish I could see British Tamla Motown labels.
Love your videos which are very detailed and informative. I am curious about the throwing away of the Master Tape. Was this common practise at the time. I can understand re-using tapes to save costs, but to throw away seems scandalous to me.
The destruction of tapes is a complex one. Unlike videotape at the BBC, EMI rarely re-used recording tape. Firstly, they owned the company that made it and secondly storage space in and around Abbey Road was limited. Also, the quality of a previously used tape was seen as inferior. Thanks for watching.
...also, don't forget that at that point, The Beatles contract with Parlophone was to produce 4 sides (I.e. 2 45s), and that was at the insistence of Ardmore and Beechwood (EMI's in house publishing arm), because they viewed Lennon / McCartney as a goldmine as songwriters- not as performers...
Andrew: Capitol Records did release another Love Me Do single in 1982, B-5189, as an excerpt from the Beatles 20 Greatest Hits album, SO 12245. It is probably the Andy White version, (which is lilkely why you didn't mention it).
Am I right in saying that the World Records package in the early 80's was the very first time EMI used the 'drop T' Beatles logo on a Beatles product?
Richard
There is a german odeon single with "love me do" and "please please me" wich I bought very cheap, and to my surprise it is the Ringo version.
Just can't get my head around the fact that a studio master, a mix master, as well as a cutting master and various tape dupes all went missing. My opinion, for what it's worth, is they were deliberately junked on the orders of someone high up (mentioning no name!).
It's weird that in all these years they never were able to just record a mint original copy on a flat setup, declick it and release it on cd or digital. It always has some EQ changes, Noise Reduction, whatever...
I have the 2012 Past Masters (the black stereo version) on vinyl. Is this the exact same mix as the one on the mono box?
My parents were cleaning out their stuff and I found a Tollie "Love Me Do."
The Ringo version was on "The Beatles Greatest" U.S. LP on the GREATEST label in the 60s. Obviously an early bootleg made to look like an official album.
Hi, great video with good explanation of the original Love Me Do single. I just have a question about copyright that you mentioned is the reason you can't play the comparison versions. I thought that Love Me Do (and P. S. I Love You) both fell out of copyright after 50 years i.e. Oct 2012?
I know copyright for music was extended to 70 years but that wasn't until November 2013 by which time Love Me Do was already in the public domain (and the copyright law isn't applied retrospectively).
In fact, if that's the case, isn't Please Please Me (single and album), From Me To You and She Loves You all in the public domain and out of copyright??
Thanks for watching. You make some good points, but any Beatles music I've tried to include on these videos is just muted by the CZcams system.
4:21 correct me if I'm wrong. Isn't this version of RAIN the one without the backward voice?
Very interesting. EMI were very stupid not keeping the master tape. The twin track master of She Loves You was 'lost' also.
Same for P.S. I Love you and I'll Get You.
With the Andy White version, Ringo's tambourine is really loud and prominent. it becomes the dominant drum sound overshadowing Andy White's drumming in the background. The Ringo drumming version sounds a bit weak by comparison as it lacks the tambourine all together.
06:29 - is it worth finding my two cassette "Beatles Anthology" from 1971? I don't mean "monetarely", but from a quality point of view. As far as I remember the entire piece was in stereo, with various instruments and vocals on left and right channels. I seem to remember that on "Girl", if you only listened to the vocal channel, you could hear a lot of breathing 😂
Interesting information. I find it hard to believe that EMI saw fit to trash the master tape go such a historically important hit single but somehow saw for to keep the master tape of the much lesser Pete Best version of this song.
The bosses there were probably "PETE FOREVER RINGO NEVER" guys. (LOL)
Hello Andrew, I have 2 original 62 copies on the red label, UK of course, my copies don’t have any tax code, is it unusual for some copies to not have any tax code or did some copies not have them.? Both copies have Made in Great Britain on both sides of the labels and the matrix numbers do end in -1N on both sides, cheers and thanks for any help you can give :)
I found a Canadian first capitol pressing of Love Me Do at a thrift store for $3. Anyone know what it’s worth? 2 discogs listings say about $300 - $350
What about the newly remastered version made by Giles Martin on the flip side of 'Now and Then'?
Maybe you could cover From Me To You as well, which sounds AWFUL on Past Masters and 1.... and the strange Lennon-McCartney - McCartney-Lennon credits on various issues... Great stuff... More please... (You can see from my channel name I sort of adore Love Me Do...)
Any chance you could review the Ringo Starr solo albums please he my favourite Beatle and any chance you could but your thoughts into a 1LP version of the White Album Aka what tracks would you pick please sorry to buy you mate
Can anyone help my Love Me Do has stamped on the left MP vertically, ZT horizontal and underneath 1 ...on the right hand side it says G 11 ? anyone know thanks in advance
Which version is used on the original Tollie release that was released back in the 60’s? How does it compare?
The Ringo version was destroyed in July 1963 (it was issued over Andy White's version as the UK single by mistake). So what was the 1964 (says recorded in 1962 on a black label) taken from? A vinyl?
Also, the demo of the Love Me Do 45 spells 'McCartney' as 'McArtney'
I have a 1964 pressing from Chile. It is the Ringo single version and sounds amazing.. The pressing numbers are different. It's #1070 single. Stamp number 7X CE 17144. Any idea? This is the best pressing I have ever heard.
I'd love to hear that, Mark. Thanks for watching.
My family has a copy of the first pressing with signatures from all 4 Beatles. Nice seeing this story told
Very nice!
I like your videos but can we agree that ‘best’ is just an opinion? I have the 2009 mono box set of CDs & the original Ringo version of ‘Love Me Do’ is on it; it sounds pretty great to me
Of course, Frank. It's all just my opinion.
@@Parlogram I do enjoy your video